# By Order of the Faithfuls: Xavier Scruggs (The Traitors: New Blood)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 6 Oct 2026, 22 min.

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Xavier Scruggs was *almost* a Traitor, but his deceptiveness cost him the game… Is he the same way outside of the castle?! He was recently on Watch What Happens Live, and he surprised Andy Cohen with a gift. Does it compare to Tamra’s breast implants? Plus, who does Xavier think the smartest person on The Traitors: New Blood is? Is there anyone we’re underestimating? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Hi, guys.
[0:03] Speaker 2: Welcome back to By Order of the Faithfuls. Today, it
[0:06] Speaker 2: is me, Tamara Judge, and Dolores, and we have our.
[0:10] Speaker 1: First interview of the season.
[0:12] Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
[0:14] Speaker 4: I know.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Xavier Scruggs. He was a professional baseball player for St.
[0:19] Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals. Isn't that Andy's favorite baseball team? That's Andy's team.
[0:23] Speaker 1: And Miami Marlins.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Since retiring, he became an MLB analyst and co-host Sirius
[0:31] Speaker 2: XM's the leadoff spot. So he joined the Traders, New Blood.
[0:37] Speaker 2: He and Katie competed to become the third Trader, but
[0:41] Speaker 2: after X had cast suspicion on Katie, the Traders worried
[0:46] Speaker 2: he might turn on them as well. They picked Katie,
[0:49] Speaker 2: and Xavier was murdered and eliminated from the game.
[0:52] Speaker 1: I was bummed, but let's get him in.
[0:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Hey, guys.
[0:57] Speaker 5: Hi, Xavier.
[0:58] Speaker 1: How are you?
[0:59] Speaker 5: Hi. I'm good. How are you guys?
[1:02] Speaker 1: We're doing great.
[1:04] Speaker 3: Faithful slash traitor.
[1:09] Speaker 1: Gone too soon.
[1:10] Speaker 5: You guys already know. It still hurts.
[1:13] Speaker 3: We're upset that you left. We really wanted to see you.
[1:17] Speaker 3: I think that you would have done so well, but
[1:19] Speaker 3: that's why they got rid of you.
[1:23] Speaker 5: Oh, I love it. And can I just say, I
[1:25] Speaker 5: loved watching you guys. I mean, go housewives. Yes.
[1:30] Speaker 4: My wife is so jealous right now, by the way,
[1:33] Speaker 4: she's literally, she's so jealous right now. Oh my God.
[1:39] Speaker 1: We'll have to tell you like this new blood, right?
[1:43] Speaker 1: We thought, Oh, what is it going to be like?
[1:45] Speaker 2: How's it going to compare to like, you know, reality
[1:48] Speaker 2: stars and all this stuff.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Oh, we love it better. I like it better.
[1:53] Speaker 5: Isn't it good?
[1:55] Speaker 1: You're already kind of a celebrity though.
[1:57] Speaker 3: But I was like, wait a second.
[1:59] Speaker 1: He's kind of already a celebrity.
[2:01] Speaker 5: No.
[2:03] Speaker 4: People know more of some of the other cast members
[2:06] Speaker 4: than they know of me because there's a lot of
[2:08] Speaker 4: people that don't watch baseball at all, you know? I guess.
[2:12] Speaker 1: Who else was that?
[2:14] Speaker 4: Morgan has like almost 2 million TikTok followers. Like that, that's,
[2:18] Speaker 4: I feel like that's like a celeb in today's, in
[2:21] Speaker 4: today's world.
[2:22] Speaker 5: Yeah. Really?
[2:23] Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
[2:24] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:26] Speaker 1: That's for the youngins, man.
[2:27] Speaker 5: That's the thing. Listen, you can't be youth.
[2:29] Speaker 1: I feel it every day. That's for, that's for sure.
[2:31] Speaker 3: But, So, I mean, it's so intense there. People don't realize.
[2:42] Speaker 3: I need to know everybody in the world wants to
[2:44] Speaker 3: be on this show. How did you get there? Did
[2:47] Speaker 3: they come to you? Did you fill something out?
[2:50] Speaker 5: What? Yeah. Yeah.
[2:51] Speaker 4: Like originally, like somebody hit me up at the DMs
[2:54] Speaker 4: and I thought it was like a joke. And it
[2:58] Speaker 4: was just like, hey, would you be interested in maybe
[3:01] Speaker 4: doing something for the traders?
[3:03] Speaker 5: And I was like, I'm not that familiar with the show.
[3:07] Speaker 4: And then something told me because all my baseball coworkers
[3:11] Speaker 4: were like watching the show, loving it. Something was like,
[3:14] Speaker 4: just at least do like a meeting and just see
[3:18] Speaker 4: like if it's something that could go down the line.
[3:20] Speaker 4: And then during that process, I started like binging all
[3:24] Speaker 4: of them because I was like, oh, this.
[3:25] Speaker 5: Show is dope.
[3:26] Speaker 1: That's what you do.
[3:26] Speaker 5: Yeah. I love this show.
[3:29] Speaker 4: Um and then I watched like the UK version and
[3:31] Speaker 4: that's where I saw the UK was like all civilians
[3:33] Speaker 4: and I was like okay this is like next level
[3:36] Speaker 4: because nobody knows each other nobody can have an inkling
[3:40] Speaker 4: as to how somebody's personality is so I was like
[3:44] Speaker 4: let's go send me to Scotland please.
[3:46] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh well um you met the big boss
[3:50] Speaker 2: Andy Cohen Yeah. A few weeks ago, right?
[3:52] Speaker 5: The big boss. The big boss.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's right. You were the bartender.
[3:56] Speaker 2: And you captioned your post, a former Cardinal meets the
[4:00] Speaker 2: biggest Cardinal fan on Bravo.
[4:02] Speaker 1: How was your experience in the clubhouse?
[4:05] Speaker 5: It was awesome.
[4:06] Speaker 4: I think the coolest thing was seeing that Andy was
[4:10] Speaker 4: so genuine.
[4:11] Speaker 5: Just even before the show.
[4:13] Speaker 4: Like they told us there may not be as much
[4:16] Speaker 4: time to be able to interact with him before and
[4:18] Speaker 4: after the show. And he literally came in and we
[4:20] Speaker 4: chopped it up for like 20 minutes just, you know,
[4:23] Speaker 4: about life, about him growing up in St. Louis and
[4:26] Speaker 4: going back there soon and loving baseball. So awesome. I
[4:30] Speaker 4: thought the aspect of like really getting to kind of
[4:32] Speaker 4: see Andy outside of the whole TV side was pretty
[4:36] Speaker 4: cool because, you know, as somebody that works in TV,
[4:39] Speaker 4: you never know what type of personality you might catch
[4:41] Speaker 4: somebody on on.
[4:43] Speaker 5: Any given day. Right. So like, yeah, getting to see somebody. Yeah,
[4:46] Speaker 5: you guys know.
[4:48] Speaker 4: So getting to see him, like it kind of been
[4:50] Speaker 4: a different element in a sense and be able to
[4:53] Speaker 4: give him something was cool.
[4:54] Speaker 5: I gave him my jersey, signed jersey.
[4:56] Speaker 4: I was like, a gameplay jersey yeah so I thought
[4:59] Speaker 4: that was cool like uh to be able to exchange
[5:02] Speaker 4: something that I knew that would mean something for him
[5:05] Speaker 4: you know because like you can give somebody a gift
[5:08] Speaker 4: that you don't know but it's like if it has
[5:10] Speaker 4: some true meaning to it and to their history that's
[5:13] Speaker 4: when it feels like something extra special.
[5:15] Speaker 1: Well that's why I gave him my breast implants yeah.
[5:18] Speaker 3: They're in the clubhouse exactly is that the same kind.
[5:22] Speaker 5: Of Did you sign him?
[5:25] Speaker 1: No, I didn't sign him, but I put him in
[5:26] Speaker 1: a nice little box. He has him up there on
[5:28] Speaker 1: the shelf.
[5:29] Speaker 5: That's awesome. Right.
[5:38] Speaker 2: So going into it, I mean, obviously filming the show,
[5:42] Speaker 2: there's a lot of restrictions.
[5:43] Speaker 1: You have no phone. You have no, like, no identity.
[5:47] Speaker 1: They just put you in a room. You stay in there.
[5:49] Speaker 1: They take you to the castle, do all that.
[5:51] Speaker 5: But no phone hurt, too.
[5:52] Speaker 1: But no phone, especially when you have a family. Like,
[5:55] Speaker 1: were you hesitant to leave, like, your job, your wife,
[5:58] Speaker 1: your kids? Three kids, right, little?
[6:00] Speaker 5: I was emotional, yes. Three kids.
[6:02] Speaker 4: I got eight, seven, two boys, the older ones, and
[6:05] Speaker 4: a four-year-old daughter, or five now.
[6:07] Speaker 5: Oh. And I was emotional.
[6:09] Speaker 4: Thinking about leaving because I had never been away from
[6:12] Speaker 4: them that long. Because when I do baseball road trips
[6:15] Speaker 4: and stuff and broadcasting, I try to take them as
[6:18] Speaker 4: much as possible.
[6:19] Speaker 5: So like people know like, hey, X's.
[6:21] Speaker 4: Family's coming through. Um, so like not being able to communicate,
[6:26] Speaker 4: thank you. Not being able to communicate on that was
[6:29] Speaker 4: like a different level. Um, and then, you know, just
[6:33] Speaker 4: the idea that, um, by the way, this is in
[6:35] Speaker 4: the middle of baseball season.
[6:37] Speaker 5: So like almost being cut.
[6:38] Speaker 4: Off from the world and not knowing what's going on
[6:41] Speaker 4: with baseball.
[6:42] Speaker 1: And like your life, everything in your life.
[6:44] Speaker 4: Right.
[6:45] Speaker 3: Everything we didn't even have a remote control for the
[6:49] Speaker 3: tv xavier when i was there we weren't there was
[6:52] Speaker 3: four or five when she was on either somebody thought up.
[6:55] Speaker 2: For us because they figured out and communicate that's what
[6:58] Speaker 2: i heard kate that's what i heard.
[7:00] Speaker 3: Smart nothing to don't ever sleep on kate chastain oh
[7:06] Speaker 3: no you could run the world that woman And she's
[7:10] Speaker 3: so freaking smart, but I'm so proud of her for that.
[7:14] Speaker 3: But okay. So no, but it hurt more. Let me
[7:18] Speaker 3: ask you, because this is how I felt. Did it
[7:20] Speaker 3: hurt more to speak to them when you got that
[7:22] Speaker 3: Sunday phone call and then to hear their voice and
[7:24] Speaker 3: have to hang up to not hear from them at all?
[7:28] Speaker 3: At some point, it was hard for me to make
[7:30] Speaker 3: that call because it made me miss them more.
[7:32] Speaker 5: Yeah, that was tough.
[7:34] Speaker 4: It's funny because it reminds you of all the different
[7:36] Speaker 4: personalities of your kids. My oldest one was the most emotional, crying.
[7:41] Speaker 4: The middle one could care less. Like, where's my video game?
[7:45] Speaker 4: Where's my Switch? And then my daughter is like, what
[7:47] Speaker 4: are you bringing me home, Daddy?
[7:49] Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay. Now you know when they get older.
[7:52] Speaker 4: My wife is the one, she couldn't hold it together.
[7:55] Speaker 4: She started crying immediately. And like that, that kind of
[8:00] Speaker 4: hit me because I was already fighting the emotions of
[8:02] Speaker 4: the game. You know, at that point, I already knew
[8:04] Speaker 4: I was going to be an accomplice. So it's like, OK,
[8:06] Speaker 4: either tomorrow I'm getting sent home or like I'm battling
[8:10] Speaker 4: this thing out and I'm hearing my wife's voice like
[8:14] Speaker 4: basically cracking through the phone and like crying.
[8:17] Speaker 5: She's like, she's like, are you OK? Is everything good?
[8:19] Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, it's all good.
[8:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't do that. What a nice family. Xavier,
[8:27] Speaker 3: my fiance was so involved. He was talking to people
[8:31] Speaker 3: every day, trying to figure out what was going. I
[8:35] Speaker 3: was so impressed. First of all, the support that we
[8:37] Speaker 3: get from our families to say, go do this.
[8:41] Speaker 4: Right.
[8:41] Speaker 3: They're giving to even see how emotional they are and
[8:45] Speaker 3: to give up themselves to say, I'm letting you go
[8:48] Speaker 3: in peace.
[8:48] Speaker 5: Right.
[8:49] Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I got you.
[8:50] Speaker 1: It means nothing peaceful about that.
[8:54] Speaker 4: Sorry.
[8:56] Speaker 1: I hated the whole experience.
[8:58] Speaker 4: No, Dolores, let me tell you, it meant a lot, though,
[9:01] Speaker 4: because my wife was the one that was like, yo,
[9:04] Speaker 4: you need to go do this. Like, this would be
[9:07] Speaker 4: outstanding for you, you to get out of your comfort zone,
[9:10] Speaker 4: test your communication, your brand, expanding that outside of baseball.
[9:16] Speaker 4: And I was like, are you sure this is for me?
[9:18] Speaker 5: Like, I don't know. Like, I love the show, but
[9:21] Speaker 5: I don't know if the actual gameplay is for me.
[9:23] Speaker 5: Because another thing is.
[9:24] Speaker 1: You played like it was for you.
[9:26] Speaker 5: I thought it was a little bit dark at first.
[9:30] Speaker 4: I was like, hey, the show is like my my
[9:32] Speaker 4: typical brand itself is like a very positive, outgoing person.
[9:38] Speaker 5: Like, is this smart for the brand, too? Because this
[9:41] Speaker 5: is a dark show. And she was like, no, you
[9:42] Speaker 5: got to do this.
[9:43] Speaker 3: That's not a dark show, hun. You got to see
[9:46] Speaker 3: what a dark show is.
[9:47] Speaker 1: Be a housewife.
[9:48] Speaker 3: We can show you what a dark show is.
[9:52] Speaker 1: Xavier. Well, get your wife signed up. What what city
[9:54] Speaker 1: do you live in?
[9:55] Speaker 3: No, for real. No, but like, this isn't dark. This is,
[10:00] Speaker 3: this was amazing for my brand because it does show
[10:03] Speaker 3: your character, you know, it did show, it didn't make
[10:06] Speaker 3: you look bad that you were throwing the other person
[10:09] Speaker 3: under the bus in three seconds at all.
[10:11] Speaker 2: Tiny traitor under the bus and running her over that's okay.
[10:14] Speaker 4: I had to i had to because look let me
[10:18] Speaker 4: say something because i thought the traders would think of
[10:22] Speaker 4: it as a smart gameplay move that would cause them
[10:26] Speaker 4: issues in the future say like i would i was
[10:28] Speaker 4: thinking okay hey the traders can say x is smart
[10:31] Speaker 4: by putting her name out there because they know we
[10:33] Speaker 4: can't use her later on down the future And X also,
[10:37] Speaker 4: this shows us that he's willing to make smart gameplay
[10:40] Speaker 4: moves and think 10 steps ahead a little bit.
[10:43] Speaker 5: So that was kind of the thought process.
[10:45] Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
[10:46] Speaker 3: That's what you would think that way, though, Tamara.
[10:49] Speaker 1: I thought that, too, after going, oh, my God, I
[10:52] Speaker 1: get what he's doing.
[10:53] Speaker 3: But you didn't know the people you were playing with, Xavier.
[10:56] Speaker 3: They were not the typical sportsmen you're used to.
[11:00] Speaker 1: Katie's going to be gone. Katie's going to be gone.
[11:02] Speaker 1: She's so much suspect on her right now.
[11:05] Speaker 5: But that's what- I'm haunting her from the grave. I'm
[11:08] Speaker 5: haunting her from the grave.
[11:09] Speaker 3: Wait, Xavier, you were right to do it, but you
[11:12] Speaker 3: weren't playing with people that thought like you.
[11:15] Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
[11:16] Speaker 4: And that's what I kind of think about as soon
[11:18] Speaker 4: as I was murdered off. It's like, it's give or
[11:22] Speaker 4: take because you think it could be a good gameplay,
[11:25] Speaker 4: but you don't know how the traitors are going to
[11:28] Speaker 4: receive it because you don't know who the traitors are
[11:30] Speaker 4: at first. And then once you find out who they are,
[11:33] Speaker 4: you almost don't know. OK, did they bring me in
[11:36] Speaker 4: just as a deep deploy or a coy just for
[11:41] Speaker 4: them to choose Katie? Or is this something that's real
[11:44] Speaker 4: that it was that one on one?
[11:46] Speaker 5: Like you don't know what the true situation is.
[11:48] Speaker 1: Maybe the traders were intimidated by you.
[11:51] Speaker 5: I 100% think that.
[11:52] Speaker 1: They were afraid of him. They were afraid of him
[11:55] Speaker 1: when he went for Katie. Big guy, big personality, all that.
[11:58] Speaker 1: They're like, oh, man.
[11:59] Speaker 4: Yes.
[12:00] Speaker 1: He's going to do a better job than me. Let's
[12:03] Speaker 1: get rid of him.
[12:04] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[12:05] Speaker 3: I think that you were a personality that would have
[12:07] Speaker 3: went sooner and gone. But here's what this mistake that
[12:11] Speaker 3: I think that they made. And you guys can agree
[12:12] Speaker 3: with me or not. They went too hard sticking up
[12:15] Speaker 3: for her.
[12:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I saw is like, man, they really
[12:20] Speaker 4: is at the roundtable. We're going in as far as
[12:23] Speaker 4: like trying to deflect the conversation from her. And obviously,
[12:26] Speaker 4: that's something that other people can pick up on, especially
[12:29] Speaker 4: when her name is already in other people's mouths.
[12:32] Speaker 5: But I disagree with you, Dolores. I felt like.
[12:35] Speaker 4: Coming into the game, and you guys know this better
[12:37] Speaker 4: than anybody, the outside of the TV conversations allowed me
[12:42] Speaker 4: to connect already with so many people. And that's why
[12:45] Speaker 4: you hear those conversations after I left. Like, people were, like,
[12:48] Speaker 4: really trustworthy of me. And, like, thinking about the conversations
[12:52] Speaker 4: that I had with them, I made it a goal
[12:54] Speaker 4: to make sure I didn't click up. And maybe that's
[12:57] Speaker 4: also an issue, too, because maybe you want to click up.
[13:00] Speaker 5: But I was like, you know what?
[13:01] Speaker 4: I want to make sure I connect with so many
[13:03] Speaker 4: people from the jump. And I think that actually could
[13:05] Speaker 4: have given me an advantage.
[13:07] Speaker 1: You connected with Logan. He got murdered.
[13:10] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[13:10] Speaker 1: Poor Logan.
[13:11] Speaker 4: And nobody connected with Logan while he was running around
[13:14] Speaker 4: looking for dinner by himself and getting snacks and all
[13:17] Speaker 4: that stuff.
[13:26] Speaker 1: So, Xavier, you're very smart.
[13:28] Speaker 3: You're very, very smart. You know games. You've been in
[13:32] Speaker 3: games competitions your whole life so what is what do
[13:36] Speaker 3: you think's the smartest player right now as we stand.
[13:39] Speaker 4: Today the smartest player right now um that's a good
[13:44] Speaker 4: question um definitely not abby abby lee man she's.
[13:50] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh um.
[13:53] Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to I'm going to have to
[13:54] Speaker 4: go with I'm going to have to go with Shane.
[13:58] Speaker 5: We haven't seen a whole lot of Shane right now.
[14:02] Speaker 1: The trainer, right?
[14:04] Speaker 5: No, no, that's Mark. Mike, that's Mark. Yeah.
[14:06] Speaker 4: Yeah. He's he's also playing it kind of smart because
[14:09] Speaker 4: he's like playing it dumb.
[14:10] Speaker 1: You know, I think he's underestimated Shane.
[14:12] Speaker 4: Yes and he's like and he said that was kind
[14:15] Speaker 4: of part of his gameplay so i think he's one
[14:18] Speaker 4: of the people that are playing it the right way
[14:20] Speaker 4: um it's weird because you have to like almost hide
[14:23] Speaker 4: your intelligence in a sense but then somebody's gonna sniff
[14:25] Speaker 4: it out wondering if you're hiding too much you know
[14:29] Speaker 4: so you don't know how that type of person is
[14:31] Speaker 4: going to do um i also i also like what
[14:35] Speaker 4: um Shane, he's the crane worker, extremely tall. We haven't
[14:41] Speaker 4: seen a whole lot of him, but you can tell
[14:43] Speaker 4: in certain scenes that he's thinking alongside of things, but
[14:47] Speaker 4: not being extremely vocal. Like he's at least strategic with
[14:50] Speaker 4: the thought process.
[14:51] Speaker 5: He's a New Yorker.
[14:53] Speaker 1: Logan was like that too, though. Logan was really quiet.
[14:56] Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he started putting things together.
[14:58] Speaker 3: It's just because he looked like Jeffrey Dahmer.
[14:59] Speaker 1: He did. That's the only thing that freaked me out.
[15:01] Speaker 3: See, Wells, he's our other.
[15:04] Speaker 5: Yes.
[15:05] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:06] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[15:07] Speaker 3: He has, he would have loved to have talked to you.
[15:09] Speaker 1: He left day two, right?
[15:11] Speaker 2: Yes.
[15:12] Speaker 5: I know. Yeah. We sit, we similar.
[15:16] Speaker 4: I know that's why I tell him I missed him
[15:19] Speaker 4: and I wish I would have been able to talk
[15:21] Speaker 4: with him.
[15:21] Speaker 5: And hopefully we have a conversation.
[15:24] Speaker 1: You will.
[15:24] Speaker 3: Cause he'll find you, but he has a theory that
[15:28] Speaker 3: the people in these shows that are, that you see
[15:31] Speaker 3: more of in the beginning are, don't last till the
[15:34] Speaker 3: end you know what i'm saying yes yeah historically speaking
[15:38] Speaker 3: the ones that are quiet that's his theory yeah.
[15:41] Speaker 4: Yes yeah because they save them for more because the
[15:44] Speaker 4: producers they got to show the full story and they
[15:47] Speaker 4: try to use those pieces at the beginning of the
[15:51] Speaker 4: guys that they showed more to kind of lead into
[15:54] Speaker 4: those other those other people so and those people you
[15:56] Speaker 4: got to And people think about those people that get
[15:59] Speaker 4: eliminated early. Like you got to figure out what their,
[16:01] Speaker 4: what their story is, what their background is.
[16:03] Speaker 5: So you have to be able to spend more time
[16:04] Speaker 5: showing that too.
[16:06] Speaker 1: Was it Kim?
[16:06] Speaker 2: The very first one that got, um, yes.
[16:09] Speaker 5: Yeah. Cause I had to do it with the ax
[16:12] Speaker 5: and she.
[16:12] Speaker 3: Went off in the river, those coffins, they can have them.
[16:16] Speaker 3: I don't do things like that. I don't go in
[16:19] Speaker 3: closed spaces, not even for a minute or am I
[16:21] Speaker 3: kidding with it? I'd rather hang out of a helicopter, uh,
[16:25] Speaker 3: All day long. I am not doing the whole coffin thing.
[16:28] Speaker 3: I told them that when I got here.
[16:29] Speaker 1: I don't like coffins either.
[16:31] Speaker 4: My whole family was like, hey, you got out at
[16:34] Speaker 4: the right time because there's no way you're doing that
[16:36] Speaker 4: coffin in the next episode.
[16:38] Speaker 5: There's no way.
[16:39] Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember.
[16:41] Speaker 3: 100%, Xavier.
[16:42] Speaker 1: The first season- They buried people. They buried.
[16:45] Speaker 5: Yes.
[16:46] Speaker 3: That's what I said. When my brother saw that, he goes,
[16:49] Speaker 3: you ain't even know. I'd be like, I'm out.
[16:53] Speaker 4: I'm out.
[16:53] Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
[16:54] Speaker 1: I'm going back home.
[16:56] Speaker 2: Now, Kim was so worried about her being an attorney.
[17:01] Speaker 5: She lied. Her job, yeah.
[17:02] Speaker 1: And I'm like, now, karma bit you in the ass
[17:04] Speaker 1: for lying.
[17:05] Speaker 5: Oh, my God. That early in the how you get
[17:08] Speaker 5: how you get sent home and you worried about your job.
[17:11] Speaker 4: And then you say you a basketball coach, you're going
[17:13] Speaker 4: to show up in the best looking suit. And we're like,
[17:17] Speaker 4: I told Kim I was about to sniff her out anyway.
[17:19] Speaker 5: As somebody that's been in sports.
[17:21] Speaker 4: I'm like, how this girl basketball coach, she showed up
[17:23] Speaker 4: in a three piece suit. There is no assistant basketball
[17:27] Speaker 4: coach is showing up wearing that wardrobe shit.
[17:30] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[17:30] Speaker 4: And then she said she said she had had multiple suits.
[17:33] Speaker 4: So I'm like, no, no, this ain't right. Because the
[17:35] Speaker 4: salary ain't adding up, first of all. And then just
[17:38] Speaker 4: the attire ain't adding up.
[17:40] Speaker 1: Well, I think somebody said to her, like, you you
[17:44] Speaker 1: kind of look like an attorney.
[17:45] Speaker 5: No way. Who said that?
[17:47] Speaker 1: Somebody said that in the kitchen. And she's like, retro. Oh, shit.
[17:53] Speaker 5: I was not. I was not. She was clocking everything.
[17:57] Speaker 3: If you think who do you think is going to
[17:58] Speaker 3: the end?
[18:00] Speaker 5: I honestly think....
[18:03] Speaker 4: We could see someone like the people that we haven't
[18:07] Speaker 4: seen much of.
[18:08] Speaker 5: I'm looking at Wyatt. He's, he's from New York.
[18:11] Speaker 4: Um, he came in with the blue shirt, blonde looks
[18:14] Speaker 4: real like, um, uppity in a sense. I think he
[18:18] Speaker 4: can go quietly undetected. He's one of the people that
[18:21] Speaker 4: I think, I think Shane too. Shane is, I keep,
[18:24] Speaker 4: my wife keeps asking me, she's like, who do you think? What?
[18:26] Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know, but.
[18:27] Speaker 4: I think Shane got that possibility because of how smart
[18:30] Speaker 4: he is. The New York style, um, I think he
[18:33] Speaker 4: becomes a main character here soon.
[18:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm waiting for him.
[18:37] Speaker 4: Jay, I actually thought Jay, when I saw his mentality,
[18:41] Speaker 4: his personality, all of that, I was like, he coming
[18:45] Speaker 4: on this show to be a main character. He's coming
[18:47] Speaker 4: on this show to definitely just show who he is.
[18:51] Speaker 5: It don't matter if he win or not. It don't
[18:54] Speaker 5: matter if he make friends or not. He's showing the
[18:56] Speaker 5: world who he is.
[18:57] Speaker 3: That's it.
[18:58] Speaker 1: He needs to shut the up though. He talks too much.
[19:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, he can talk if.
[19:04] Speaker 1: He's going to get murdered for just being annoying.
[19:07] Speaker 3: Xavier, I just don't take it. But listen, it was
[19:11] Speaker 3: an experience. I'm glad that we got, I would like
[19:14] Speaker 3: to see more of you. Maybe they'll bring them back.
[19:16] Speaker 3: Like they brought Dorinda back.
[19:18] Speaker 1: I was going to say.
[19:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[19:20] Speaker 1: They might do that. They might do that.
[19:24] Speaker 2: On my season, Johnny Bananas was the first one to go.
[19:28] Speaker 2: And this following season, they invited him back, but he
[19:31] Speaker 2: had a conflict and didn't do it.
[19:33] Speaker 1: So sometimes they do invite.
[19:35] Speaker 3: I want to see you back, Xavier.
[19:39] Speaker 4: I don't know if I would want to go back
[19:40] Speaker 4: because then it would feel like you know that it's
[19:44] Speaker 4: almost a second chance i don't want get give me
[19:46] Speaker 4: a different show get i.
[19:48] Speaker 6: Want to do something else i want to talk to
[19:51] Speaker 6: you about that so you said on the the casuals
[19:54] Speaker 6: the podcast that you'd rate your reality tv experience at
[19:57] Speaker 6: 10 out of 10.
[19:58] Speaker 1: And would love to do dancing with the stars yes
[20:02] Speaker 1: how do we make that happen I would love to
[20:04] Speaker 1: do that.
[20:04] Speaker 5: Put it out there.
[20:05] Speaker 3: What about Special Forces?
[20:07] Speaker 5: Special Forces, too.
[20:10] Speaker 4: The only thing about Special Forces, and I know other
[20:11] Speaker 4: people are scared of it, too, is some of the
[20:14] Speaker 4: heights missions. I may just freeze up. Your boy might
[20:18] Speaker 4: just say, no, I can't do this one. I'm not
[20:20] Speaker 4: in this episode.
[20:21] Speaker 5: Send me home.
[20:22] Speaker 3: Xavier, I'm not doing the drowning in the car thing.
[20:26] Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't do the closed.
[20:28] Speaker 3: In spaces, the tunnel. I mean, I always wanted to
[20:30] Speaker 3: be a soldier. I wanted to join the Marines. My
[20:32] Speaker 3: parents wouldn't let me. But anyway, having said that, I'm like, yeah,
[20:35] Speaker 3: I want to do special forces. Then I saw them
[20:37] Speaker 3: have to crawl through a tunnel.
[20:39] Speaker 5: I'm doing it.
[20:39] Speaker 3: But there is something more for you, Xavier. We have
[20:43] Speaker 3: not seen the last of you in reality TV. And
[20:47] Speaker 3: Andy and you are buddies now. So we're going to
[20:50] Speaker 3: see more of him. Let him know you're into this.
[20:54] Speaker 3: We love you. And thank you so much for coming on.
[20:57] Speaker 5: Thank you guys. Amazing. You guys kill it. Everything you
[20:59] Speaker 5: guys do, you guys kill it. Love watching you guys.
[21:01] Speaker 1: Thank you. It was so nice having you on.
[21:04] Speaker 3: Come to BravoCon. Bring your wife to BravoCon next time.
[21:06] Speaker 1: No, we're going to get your wife signed up on
[21:08] Speaker 1: a housewife show. Yeah, let her get on the housewife show.
[21:10] Speaker 4: Let's do it. Hey, the housewives is a lot. The BravoCon, okay.
[21:14] Speaker 4: The housewives may be too much because then I get
[21:16] Speaker 4: up in that drama.
[21:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it. That's not a good thing. We don't
[21:20] Speaker 5: want to.
[21:20] Speaker 1: I think you would love it.
[21:21] Speaker 3: We want to keep her nice. She cried for him.
[21:23] Speaker 3: I think you'd.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Be great at it.
[21:27] Speaker 5: Xavier, don't let her do it.
[21:29] Speaker 3: Don't let her do it.
[21:30] Speaker 1: Keep her nice.
[21:32] Speaker 5: Oh my God.
[21:34] Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for taking the time. We
[21:36] Speaker 1: appreciate it. So, so much. It was great meeting you.
[21:39] Speaker 5: Great meeting you guys too. Hopefully we cross paths down
[21:42] Speaker 5: the line. Yes, for sure. Bye.
[21:45] Speaker 3: Love that. Bye.
[21:46] Speaker 1: He's so lovely.
[21:47] Speaker 3: I love Xavier.
[21:49] Speaker 1: I know we need to see more of him.
[21:51] Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for tuning in to by
[21:53] Speaker 2: order of the faithfuls. And we will be back next
[21:56] Speaker 2: week with a new episode.
[21:58] Speaker 1: See you next week.

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