# The TWOT Seat: LIZ MCGRAW (RHORI)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 30 Jul 2026, 43 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/28/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/65981eb8-5a6f-48a6-8329-ae2b00156460/0a5deaf9-5a7e-4163-8884-b497015e9c95/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=59f37943-e628-4810-8c3b-ae2b00156477

Liz McGraw is doing her FIRST interview since leaving RHORI… Does she regret it? What is the real reason why she stepped away? Then, she claps back at Rosie for her comments to press about being different off camera. Plus, Liz spills what went down during RHONJ filming recently. Does she have FOMO? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
[0:16] Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome back to another episode of The Twat
[0:18] Speaker 2: Seat with.
[0:19] Speaker 3: Myself, Tamra Judge and Teddy Mellencamp.
[0:22] Speaker 2: Teddy, Today we have an epic guest.
[0:26] Speaker 4: I'm so excited.
[0:27] Speaker 2: Do you know that she has not done one interview
[0:29] Speaker 2: or podcast that I know of since she's left Rhode Island.
[0:34] Speaker 3: This is huge and like, of course, our girl Dolores
[0:37] Speaker 3: got it done for us.
[0:38] Speaker 2: Yes, So today we have Liz McGrath from the Real
[0:41] Speaker 2: House Rice of Rhode Island. As you guys know, she
[0:44] Speaker 2: decided on her own not to come back, and we're
[0:47] Speaker 2: going to get all the dirt. Oh there she is.
[0:50] Speaker 4: I lost me once again.
[0:54] Speaker 2: I lost my last night.
[0:57] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you're so pretty, so pretty.
[1:01] Speaker 2: Oh no, you're so pretty. Oh no, we're also were stopping.
[1:05] Speaker 4: We're all so pretty for us.
[1:10] Speaker 2: Okay, there's something I want to get off my chest. Okay, no,
[1:15] Speaker 2: my fake tits are still in my chest. They're doing great.
[1:18] Speaker 2: And so I did press a couple of weeks ago,
[1:23] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, all these stories came out
[1:25] Speaker 2: that I said that you quit the show because of
[1:27] Speaker 2: social media. And I'm like, I didn't fucking say that.
[1:30] Speaker 2: That's not what I said. That is not what I said.
[1:33] Speaker 2: I go, I don't have any I don't know why
[1:35] Speaker 2: she quit the show. All I said was, yeah, I
[1:37] Speaker 2: talked to her. I know that social media was top
[1:39] Speaker 2: on her.
[1:40] Speaker 3: That was it.
[1:42] Speaker 4: It was.
[1:43] Speaker 5: I think that the flurry of social media hate was more.
[1:50] Speaker 4: Of a by product.
[1:52] Speaker 2: Well it's not easy, you know, it's not easy for me.
[1:56] Speaker 5: The main thing I think was anything that can have
[2:02] Speaker 5: an entire community believe things that are about you that
[2:09] Speaker 5: are so wholly untrue.
[2:13] Speaker 4: That scared the fucking shit out of me.
[2:15] Speaker 3: You know.
[2:15] Speaker 4: The heat, the shrapnel of heat, Yeah, was only.
[2:19] Speaker 5: A byproduct of it, you know, the the notion that, like,
[2:23] Speaker 5: I'm on drugs and believe me, I've seen everyone completely
[2:29] Speaker 5: convinced of it.
[2:32] Speaker 4: Anyone who knows me knows I love.
[2:34] Speaker 5: Anything to do with drugs. So if it could be
[2:38] Speaker 5: that skewed, it just freaked me out.
[2:41] Speaker 6: You know, the heat, and normally they at least wait
[2:44] Speaker 6: to do that to you until the second season.
[2:50] Speaker 4: How could that even how could this even be? How
[2:53] Speaker 4: could this be me?
[2:55] Speaker 3: So?
[2:55] Speaker 5: You know, uh, some people say she didn't like the
[3:00] Speaker 5: era that was shown self awareness. No, I'm very very
[3:05] Speaker 5: self aware that my reactions at times were hot headed
[3:10] Speaker 5: and unhinged.
[3:13] Speaker 4: But how it could go so far into things that were.
[3:18] Speaker 5: So ridiculously false that freaked me out.
[3:23] Speaker 4: That freaked me out.
[3:24] Speaker 2: So was the reason that you didn't come back because
[3:27] Speaker 2: of social media?
[3:30] Speaker 6: No?
[3:30] Speaker 5: I mean I think that that was, you know, when
[3:35] Speaker 5: I saw the way it was portrayed, partly, you know,
[3:40] Speaker 5: because there were so many so convinced of who I am.
[3:48] Speaker 4: I think that it was a bunch of things. It
[3:51] Speaker 4: was a bunch of things. I'm old, I'm older.
[3:55] Speaker 7: I I don't need to do it conversations anymore in
[3:58] Speaker 7: my life.
[4:00] Speaker 5: It didn't really makes sense. I didn't really really what
[4:04] Speaker 5: do you mean you're older? How old do you think
[4:05] Speaker 5: I am?
[4:07] Speaker 4: Well, I think we're a year apart.
[4:09] Speaker 2: All right, I'm probably older than you.
[4:11] Speaker 4: You are, you're a year older than me. You're a
[4:14] Speaker 4: little bit older.
[4:15] Speaker 2: And you know what's so funny is you know, I'll
[4:18] Speaker 2: be fifty nine in September, and I keep telling myself,
[4:22] Speaker 2: am I going to be doing this in my sixties? Like,
[4:25] Speaker 2: isn't there a time where I'm like, let's leave this
[4:28] Speaker 2: behind and that I'm like, no, let's keep going.
[4:31] Speaker 5: Why I have to say something, You've never looked better. Oh,
[4:35] Speaker 5: thank you, And I am thoroughly enjoying you this season.
[4:40] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[4:40] Speaker 5: I just it feels real, it feels light, it feels
[4:47] Speaker 5: I get what happened last season.
[4:49] Speaker 4: I do.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Oh, it's horrible, and I think that it really just
[4:54] Speaker 2: shook me to my core, even like thought like maybe
[4:58] Speaker 2: I should not go back.
[5:00] Speaker 4: I'm glad you did.
[5:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's how I feel about you. I wanted
[5:04] Speaker 2: you to go back because I want the people to
[5:06] Speaker 2: see the other side. I didn't want you to.
[5:09] Speaker 5: End like that.
[5:10] Speaker 6: But in that moment, did you like when you were filming?
[5:15] Speaker 6: Were you hating it or did you like it?
[5:17] Speaker 5: Yeah?
[5:17] Speaker 4: No, I had a I had a feeling.
[5:22] Speaker 5: You know, some might say I'm paranoid, but I had
[5:24] Speaker 5: a feeling that this probably was not going to go
[5:30] Speaker 5: well for me. And you know, what you resist persists naturally.
[5:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm.
[5:37] Speaker 5: Sad that Dolores wasn't able to be there, you know,
[5:41] Speaker 5: I just there are a lot of components to it.
[5:44] Speaker 5: But I'm still so thoroughly grateful for the experience. You know,
[5:49] Speaker 5: I wouldn't treat it. And I know, as hard as
[5:52] Speaker 5: last year was for you, we learned through it, right,
[5:58] Speaker 5: We learned through it.
[5:59] Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
[6:00] Speaker 6: And I know that the hater seem louder than the
[6:03] Speaker 6: people that love you. But I just want you to
[6:05] Speaker 6: know through like to teas in a pod, everybody loves you.
[6:11] Speaker 3: Like they really do. And you've made it.
[6:12] Speaker 6: You made us like for a first season show to
[6:15] Speaker 6: be that good.
[6:17] Speaker 3: That's I mean that us good.
[6:20] Speaker 4: It's good. Right.
[6:22] Speaker 2: Yes, Our producers just text we love you gay icon.
[6:32] Speaker 6: Do you are you close with any of the girls still?
[6:35] Speaker 6: Are you still talking to any of them?
[6:38] Speaker 5: I mean yeah, here and there. But you know, when
[6:41] Speaker 5: you're you're in it, you're in it together. So there's
[6:46] Speaker 5: a bond there because of.
[6:48] Speaker 4: The show on. Not as close as I.
[6:55] Speaker 5: Was when I was going, you know, when we were
[6:58] Speaker 5: I was going to the throes of it.
[7:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, did your husband have Did he like the show?
[7:06] Speaker 2: Was he like, oh my god, you're off?
[7:09] Speaker 4: He thought the show was great.
[7:11] Speaker 3: Oh, he liked it.
[7:13] Speaker 4: He thought the show was great.
[7:14] Speaker 5: He was disappointed for me, obviously, and he's like, yeah, no,
[7:21] Speaker 5: I we spoke about it a lot, and he's like,
[7:27] Speaker 5: you're doing the right thing you're doing the right.
[7:29] Speaker 2: Do you think maybe because I see Rhode Island being
[7:32] Speaker 2: around for a very long time, because it's so boy,
[7:35] Speaker 2: I have no doubt.
[7:36] Speaker 5: I mean, ye're going to do They're going to kill it.
[7:38] Speaker 5: They're going to do just as well, if not better.
[7:41] Speaker 2: Do you think that you might come back in the future,
[7:45] Speaker 2: if the timing's right.
[7:47] Speaker 4: I'm never say never.
[7:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see you though.
[7:54] Speaker 6: You were spotted filming Real Housewives of New Jersey.
[7:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a big difference between the two.
[8:01] Speaker 4: I didn't really. I tried. Is the best.
[8:05] Speaker 5: I could just stay kind of behind the cameras. I
[8:09] Speaker 5: was happy to be there. I didn't Yeah, I didn't
[8:12] Speaker 5: feel the heaviness because it wasn't on me, you know. So,
[8:19] Speaker 5: so you're not having any fomo.
[8:21] Speaker 2: They're filming right now right.
[8:23] Speaker 5: Well, you know, I see them filming and I see
[8:26] Speaker 5: I see the pages that like follow them around, and
[8:30] Speaker 5: it's like, ah, I could have been there, I could
[8:32] Speaker 5: have worn that or you know, but no, not really,
[8:37] Speaker 5: I'm happy for them, Not really. I'm also happy in
[8:42] Speaker 5: my own life right now.
[8:43] Speaker 2: What part of your life do you wish it would
[8:46] Speaker 2: have been shown?
[8:48] Speaker 5: My business, my sales floor, all we do for the community,
[8:54] Speaker 5: my family, trips with my husband, spiritual endeavors, gender reveal, party,
[9:05] Speaker 5: things that really should my life or made me human,
[9:09] Speaker 5: you know, the things that I was so worried about
[9:13] Speaker 5: coming into it, like being so much older than the
[9:15] Speaker 5: rest of the cast.
[9:18] Speaker 2: The Dino of it.
[9:19] Speaker 5: All became my story, and you know that's not my
[9:25] Speaker 5: whole story.
[9:26] Speaker 6: Can you tell us a little bit more about the
[9:28] Speaker 6: Kelsey and Dino story because I needed some more crumbs.
[9:33] Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there was There wasn't much
[9:36] Speaker 5: to it. It was just we're Rhode Island. We're very small,
[9:40] Speaker 5: so you know, the chances of running into and you know,
[9:45] Speaker 5: having interactions with people are very high.
[9:50] Speaker 4: Wasn't that big of a deal.
[9:52] Speaker 3: And then what were your thoughts on Rula and her husband?
[9:56] Speaker 4: Exactly as you've seen, Those were my thoughts.
[9:59] Speaker 5: I thought that, you know, Rula had the opportunity to
[10:03] Speaker 5: shut it down relatively quickly and didn't because she was
[10:07] Speaker 5: so focused on white knuckling it out.
[10:10] Speaker 4: You know, again, what you resist persists in this world.
[10:15] Speaker 2: So I was so happy at the reunion when you
[10:19] Speaker 2: were vindicated about Rula's husband calling your husband and her
[10:25] Speaker 2: saying that never happened that never happened, and then he
[10:29] Speaker 2: and then he starts talking about it and she's like see,
[10:32] Speaker 2: and then he's like, well, yeah I did.
[10:36] Speaker 4: It's funny because Jerry only told me she had a party.
[10:40] Speaker 5: During the season and I was getting ready. I had
[10:43] Speaker 5: a day that day. I was late, and as I was.
[10:46] Speaker 4: Getting ready, that's when he told me.
[10:49] Speaker 5: He's like, oh, but by the way.
[10:52] Speaker 4: I'm like what you're just telling me? Now? He and
[10:54] Speaker 4: I laughed so hard to like we doubled over. But
[11:02] Speaker 4: it is what it is. Okay again, it's Rhode Island.
[11:04] Speaker 4: It's the chances of something like that not happening. Okay.
[11:09] Speaker 2: Hypothetically speaking, if what happened with you and Joe Ellen
[11:14] Speaker 2: never played out, do you think because you absolute fan
[11:19] Speaker 2: favorite from the beginning, do you think you would have
[11:22] Speaker 2: went back?
[11:24] Speaker 1: No?
[11:25] Speaker 2: Oh, well I.
[11:28] Speaker 4: Think that it was.
[11:33] Speaker 3: How do I put this?
[11:36] Speaker 5: No, I don't think that that was the full that
[11:39] Speaker 5: that was the defining factor in it, really do well.
[11:45] Speaker 2: Dolores did tell me several times during Aaron She says,
[11:50] Speaker 2: you know, I just don't think this is for Liz.
[11:53] Speaker 2: I just don't think like she's enjoying it. I don't
[11:56] Speaker 2: think that she has such a wonderful life and such
[12:01] Speaker 2: a happy life that I don't think this is her thing.
[12:05] Speaker 5: And I do, And I said from the beginning, if
[12:11] Speaker 5: this could be something that showed my organic life authentically,
[12:18] Speaker 5: then I am down.
[12:19] Speaker 4: I am so down because there are so.
[12:22] Speaker 5: Many facets to my life that are amazing, you know,
[12:25] Speaker 5: and that didn't end up being it. And it was
[12:30] Speaker 5: never a case of I needed to be hbiic Queen.
[12:35] Speaker 5: I never wanted that. I just merely wanted to survive.
[12:43] Speaker 6: Do you think, I mean, you brought up a good point,
[12:46] Speaker 6: your authentic life being shown. Of this group of girls,
[12:49] Speaker 6: who do you think is the most authentic and who
[12:52] Speaker 6: do you think is.
[12:52] Speaker 3: The least authentic to what we're watching on the show.
[12:56] Speaker 4: That's a good question, teddy question.
[13:00] Speaker 3: You know, there.
[13:02] Speaker 5: Are facets of everyone's life that is authentic and then
[13:07] Speaker 5: some that were maybe played up or played down.
[13:12] Speaker 2: But do you agree certain people act different on camera
[13:15] Speaker 2: versus off camera always?
[13:18] Speaker 4: Do you agree that? Yeah?
[13:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's some people that I have worked with
[13:24] Speaker 2: that are totally different on camera and that's annoying to me.
[13:31] Speaker 5: Yeah, that happens, and that sometimes can be surprising, especially
[13:37] Speaker 5: season one of you know.
[13:39] Speaker 3: Is that kind of how you feel about Joe Helen.
[13:42] Speaker 3: She's keeping everything PC.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Y'all, but we're gonna pull it out of her one
[13:46] Speaker 2: way or another.
[14:00] Speaker 6: Who do you think you'll miss most from the cast, Dolores?
[14:07] Speaker 2: Well, would you ever go over to New Jersey and
[14:09] Speaker 2: film on that show?
[14:11] Speaker 1: No?
[14:11] Speaker 4: I just I love Rude Island. My heart resides here.
[14:16] Speaker 5: I am such a beautiful place. I love Rude Island.
[14:20] Speaker 5: There's no place I would rather be.
[14:25] Speaker 2: But speaking of being completely different, let's go back to that.
[14:29] Speaker 2: Rosie recently said that you're a completely different person when
[14:32] Speaker 2: the cameras aren't rolling.
[14:35] Speaker 3: I am.
[14:36] Speaker 5: You know, I'm the same. I might be even worse
[14:39] Speaker 5: for when the cameras aren't rolling.
[14:41] Speaker 2: Actually, you respond saying you look forward to the debuwers
[14:46] Speaker 2: get to see the real Rosie.
[14:51] Speaker 5: I thought that it was interesting that, you know, Rosie
[14:56] Speaker 5: got up on her podium and had to decided to
[15:01] Speaker 5: do a dissertation on why I left, when you know,
[15:07] Speaker 5: Rosie had a rosy time of it. So I think
[15:12] Speaker 5: I said before Rosie was the most irritating out of
[15:17] Speaker 5: the cast. I stamp I stand.
[15:20] Speaker 6: By that, and then looking back, like with your own
[15:23] Speaker 6: behaviors and the things that I mean, I look back
[15:26] Speaker 6: at some of the things I did and I'm like,
[15:27] Speaker 6: oh my gosh, how did.
[15:28] Speaker 2: I but me too?
[15:31] Speaker 4: Do you use crunch cringe? I can give you eight
[15:35] Speaker 4: thousand reasons as to why.
[15:38] Speaker 5: They still got it ahead of me and cringe all
[15:42] Speaker 5: the way.
[15:44] Speaker 3: Would you handbuild the homeless situation differently?
[15:47] Speaker 4: Say it again?
[15:48] Speaker 3: Would you have handled the homeless situation differently?
[15:51] Speaker 4: Or when did you shut the fuck up?
[15:55] Speaker 5: See I like you say so you you were like, I, yeah,
[15:59] Speaker 5: I would have see.
[16:01] Speaker 2: I see it, I see it. I see your side
[16:03] Speaker 2: on that, and I see what you were doing. And
[16:06] Speaker 2: it's like if Teddy had to move out of her
[16:08] Speaker 2: house because she's getting divorced what she is, and she's like,
[16:12] Speaker 2: I'm homeless, I'd be like, bitch, you ain't homeless. You're
[16:15] Speaker 2: not homeless. Like just like I've had to, I've gotten
[16:18] Speaker 2: a divorce and went and lived with my parents. Does
[16:21] Speaker 2: that mean I mean I understood what you're saying? And
[16:24] Speaker 2: also it does it's not a good look what I did.
[16:27] Speaker 8: In the moment, and I almost instantly regretted it, and
[16:34] Speaker 8: you know, at the table, instantly apologized because that is.
[16:39] Speaker 4: Not my place.
[16:40] Speaker 5: However you have felt are your feelings. I shouldn't shut
[16:46] Speaker 5: the fuck up. My intentions were good.
[16:49] Speaker 6: It kind of felt like to me, you forgot for
[16:51] Speaker 6: a second you were on camera and you were just
[16:53] Speaker 6: telling your friend like, don't say that, and then it's like, oh,
[16:57] Speaker 6: I I.
[16:58] Speaker 4: Even bought my hands like nah, Like I just wanted
[17:02] Speaker 4: to be like stop, no, don't what are you doing?
[17:06] Speaker 4: But mistake not my place?
[17:10] Speaker 2: You know, Well, that's the nature of the show though.
[17:12] Speaker 2: That's how this show works. You talk about things and
[17:15] Speaker 2: you give your opinion. You're not there to shut the
[17:18] Speaker 2: fuck up. And the good thing about Rhode Island that
[17:21] Speaker 2: I like the most is that you guys have all
[17:23] Speaker 2: known each other for so long that you do have information,
[17:27] Speaker 2: you do have intel. You can't say that's not what happened.
[17:30] Speaker 2: And I didn't think there was anything wrong with it.
[17:32] Speaker 2: I thought that it was blown out of proportion. There
[17:36] Speaker 2: was talk that you felt like you were maybe set
[17:40] Speaker 2: up or ambushed in that re or limo right or
[17:45] Speaker 2: whatever you were in.
[17:49] Speaker 6: You felt like that was definitely they planned that scene prior.
[17:52] Speaker 4: No, it was planned, it was with it was planned,
[17:56] Speaker 4: and you know, it's okay. I think that and maybe
[18:01] Speaker 4: this is why Dolores said it's not for me. I
[18:08] Speaker 4: don't play well on that field.
[18:11] Speaker 3: I just don't well because you're not playing in it.
[18:14] Speaker 6: But like I think it perfectly summed up your feelings
[18:17] Speaker 6: about doing it, when Ashley was going down the slide
[18:21] Speaker 6: and you're like, I am not putting on my bathing
[18:23] Speaker 6: suit and going down the slide right now. Like that
[18:26] Speaker 6: kind of showed like the different places where everybody was.
[18:29] Speaker 4: At, you know.
[18:30] Speaker 5: And then they have like Kelsey saying, what guys would
[18:34] Speaker 5: he want to be with three hot young girls in
[18:38] Speaker 5: bikinis on a water slide, and then they immediately zoom
[18:43] Speaker 5: in on me like the fourth hole, miserable and like
[18:47] Speaker 5: some weird tenn of Southfit that I just I was
[18:51] Speaker 5: like a calamity of errors for me.
[18:54] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
[18:57] Speaker 6: Also, everybody wants to know what you whispered into Joellen's
[19:02] Speaker 6: ear at Capo.
[19:04] Speaker 4: It's so funny. I have no idea. I have no
[19:07] Speaker 4: idea might have.
[19:08] Speaker 5: I have no idea what I whispered out of ben
[19:10] Speaker 5: just or even did I either whisper anything?
[19:14] Speaker 4: I don't know, I who knows?
[19:16] Speaker 6: I did Joellen really think when you guys were fighting
[19:20] Speaker 6: that she was going to share a sig with you,
[19:24] Speaker 6: because like she like went to go take it out
[19:26] Speaker 6: of your hand, and you're like, uh oh, my cold
[19:29] Speaker 6: dead body is.
[19:30] Speaker 4: So fe I don't know.
[19:33] Speaker 5: I mean, I know that I walked into the day,
[19:37] Speaker 5: even from when I get out of the car going
[19:39] Speaker 5: into John's house. I even said out loud, I'm walking
[19:44] Speaker 5: into the red wedding right now. You know, I walked
[19:48] Speaker 5: into the whole day. Is so apprehensive and not mostly
[19:56] Speaker 5: because you know, I just I knew how it would
[19:59] Speaker 5: have gone. And you know this, I don't know. I
[20:03] Speaker 5: don't Joelle. We've never really shared a cigarette before that, so.
[20:09] Speaker 6: So just assume closeness that we believe to be true
[20:13] Speaker 6: is not actually true.
[20:15] Speaker 3: Like that, because there was a moment I fell for it.
[20:17] Speaker 6: I'm like, they are really close, And why is all
[20:19] Speaker 6: of a sudden list pulling away and pretending she's not
[20:22] Speaker 6: close with her?
[20:23] Speaker 2: Like, I mean, there.
[20:24] Speaker 4: Are facets of Joellen. You know you can't help but love.
[20:28] Speaker 4: She's fucking funny.
[20:30] Speaker 2: She's one of my favorites. She really is.
[20:32] Speaker 5: She met reality is so good. I just prior to filming,
[20:41] Speaker 5: like our relationship was uh brief and turbulent, at best,
[20:48] Speaker 5: but I did there are times when I really liked
[20:52] Speaker 5: I mean, I liked interacting with Joellen. She's charismatic. We
[20:58] Speaker 5: you know, the best friend thing kind of came on
[21:02] Speaker 5: a left field.
[21:03] Speaker 6: For me that it was never did you know any
[21:07] Speaker 6: of these women well other than I mean, like when
[21:13] Speaker 6: you started filming, like day one of filming, other than
[21:16] Speaker 6: like the maybe lunch you guys did before to get
[21:19] Speaker 6: to know each other.
[21:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've known Alisia again since she was born,
[21:28] Speaker 5: but there's such a large age disparity between us.
[21:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know her on the level of bonded friendship, right.
[21:42] Speaker 3: No, that makes sense.
[21:44] Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kelsey a little bit. That's a lot
[21:49] Speaker 2: to unwrap. There was rumors out there that her and
[21:53] Speaker 2: her boyfriend had broken up before the show even started airing,
[21:58] Speaker 2: and I don't know that she actually answered that at
[22:00] Speaker 2: the reunion. I can't remember, But can you speak on
[22:03] Speaker 2: that at all?
[22:08] Speaker 5: I will say that the story you were shown is
[22:14] Speaker 5: basically the truth in the story.
[22:17] Speaker 3: Just a timing of different timing different but true.
[22:21] Speaker 5: Sorry, I mean no, not really, because feelings were there and.
[22:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, I've actually shocked that he allowed her to
[22:32] Speaker 2: film in the house. But yet his face was blurred
[22:36] Speaker 2: out in every picture.
[22:39] Speaker 3: He probably liked it.
[22:41] Speaker 2: I mean to show his face.
[22:45] Speaker 6: Because he doesn't want to be known. He wants the
[22:48] Speaker 6: inner circle people to know, because.
[22:50] Speaker 4: He didn't want to happen to him.
[22:56] Speaker 2: You know, if you went back, you would have had
[22:58] Speaker 2: an amazing season.
[22:59] Speaker 4: You know, who knows? Who knows?
[23:02] Speaker 5: It's hard, you know, there were so many variables where
[23:06] Speaker 5: I just felt like, you know, maybe if I had
[23:13] Speaker 5: a tight one tight ally or one person willing to
[23:18] Speaker 5: say it really isn't a scary you know, she'd give
[23:22] Speaker 5: her shirt off, the shirt.
[23:24] Speaker 4: Off her back for us, she do anything.
[23:29] Speaker 5: I think that being having such a strong personality, maybe
[23:34] Speaker 5: you know that was just a different plan for me.
[23:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. Speaking of me, I'm the same. I'm
[23:40] Speaker 2: a strong personality. But I'll give my shirt off back
[23:43] Speaker 2: to anybody, and even people like to a fault if
[23:46] Speaker 2: they have hurt me, I will still if they need me,
[23:48] Speaker 2: I will be there for them. But you never get
[23:50] Speaker 2: to see that, you know, you don't get to see that.
[23:54] Speaker 5: And like I just to that point, I was never
[23:59] Speaker 5: in did and exposing anyone, calling anyone out shaming, certainly
[24:07] Speaker 5: not slut shaming. Don't want to, you know, it's just
[24:11] Speaker 5: not something I'm interested in my life at this juncture.
[24:17] Speaker 2: Do you think you would go on a show like
[24:20] Speaker 2: Traders if asked? Maybe I think you would be great
[24:25] Speaker 2: on that.
[24:26] Speaker 4: I don't know how well I do.
[24:28] Speaker 2: I think I do Greggs. You are very opinionated and
[24:30] Speaker 2: you will, you know, speak your mind. And it's not
[24:33] Speaker 2: like Housewives. It's not that drama filled let me attack you.
[24:38] Speaker 2: It's I mean, as Dolores probably told you, a pretty
[24:41] Speaker 2: cool experience. Really, I could see you one day.
[24:46] Speaker 4: Maybe you never know.
[24:49] Speaker 6: Were you surprised to see rule of filming?
[24:54] Speaker 4: You know?
[24:55] Speaker 6: Because to us it was kind of like you just
[24:57] Speaker 6: came out of nowhere and then we barely saw.
[25:00] Speaker 5: Filming season two both both. I actually recommended Rula for
[25:08] Speaker 5: season one. You did well, I did, you know. You
[25:12] Speaker 5: go down the list and you think of people you
[25:15] Speaker 5: know who you know that you got to tick so
[25:19] Speaker 5: many boxes, you know what I mean. It's definitely a
[25:22] Speaker 5: formula you can't just and I threw so many out there.
[25:31] Speaker 6: No shocked Holt the way she came out at the
[25:33] Speaker 6: reunion though, like a different person.
[25:36] Speaker 4: Whoa physically and otherwise.
[25:41] Speaker 2: Yes, We've seen this happen before, not to this extent
[25:46] Speaker 2: on Housewives, Shannon Badoor's has been many years. Cheated on
[25:51] Speaker 2: her why they were filming, and it didn't end well.
[25:56] Speaker 2: And I just feel like if Rula stays on this show,
[26:00] Speaker 2: it's not going to end well for her marriage.
[26:05] Speaker 5: I mean, we could make the argument that that that
[26:08] Speaker 5: happens more than.
[26:09] Speaker 3: Not right, I mean, it could also hold it more accountable.
[26:13] Speaker 5: I think that they both really love everything about it
[26:19] Speaker 5: filming on the show.
[26:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they love it, and I think that.
[26:26] Speaker 5: What they want to get out of it supersedes the
[26:30] Speaker 5: negative stuff that happens to be tough.
[26:35] Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even imagine their conversations off camera
[26:38] Speaker 2: watching the show.
[26:40] Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it was a surprise to her.
[26:43] Speaker 4: And they you know, they may not be deep thinkers, really,
[26:50] Speaker 4: they may just.
[26:51] Speaker 6: Like I don't know, Well, clearly, do you think that
[26:59] Speaker 6: Kelsey and Bill are going to make it long term?
[27:01] Speaker 3: Speaking of relationships?
[27:04] Speaker 4: I hope.
[27:05] Speaker 1: So.
[27:05] Speaker 4: I really like Billy. He's a great guy.
[27:07] Speaker 2: I like him too, He's.
[27:09] Speaker 4: A great guys and he adores her. I hope.
[27:13] Speaker 2: So you can tell, you can totally tell. I mean,
[27:15] Speaker 2: he waited around for her for a long time.
[27:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[27:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us a little bit about your business, because
[27:22] Speaker 2: you said, you know, we didn't get to see a
[27:24] Speaker 2: whole lot of it. I'm also in the cannabis business,
[27:26] Speaker 2: but in a different area than you are, so you
[27:30] Speaker 2: have Is it the only dispensary in Rhode Island.
[27:35] Speaker 5: No, it's the first, though, and the first of three
[27:39] Speaker 5: that originally got licensed. And I mean we were really, really,
[27:43] Speaker 5: really on the ground floor.
[27:45] Speaker 4: We're on fourteen years now.
[27:48] Speaker 5: Wow, and we've built something pretty amazing and we've helped
[27:54] Speaker 5: a lot of people through that. Yes, and it's yeah,
[27:59] Speaker 5: it's been a process, and it's it's a lie, it's
[28:02] Speaker 5: it's it's my life.
[28:04] Speaker 4: Really.
[28:05] Speaker 2: You were talking with Delores about making a menopause gummy
[28:09] Speaker 2: or whatever it was, and I made it.
[28:13] Speaker 4: And it's incredible. I feel like.
[28:16] Speaker 3: Send it to us. I saw many people.
[28:19] Speaker 4: Would want it after seeing my behavior.
[28:23] Speaker 2: Oh that's not You're too hard on yourself.
[28:28] Speaker 4: This thing is so incredible.
[28:30] Speaker 5: But I have dumped so many things into it that
[28:35] Speaker 5: where I'm at right now is the taste isn't the best.
[28:40] Speaker 2: Which is hard to do with cannabis.
[28:42] Speaker 4: It's so hard to do. And the cannabis.
[28:45] Speaker 5: Commonent components in it are non psychoactive components of the
[28:50] Speaker 5: plant to be able to sell it, you know, across
[28:54] Speaker 5: state borders. But they worked synergistically with other things in it.
[29:01] Speaker 5: Saffron for mood, black cohosh for temperature or regulation. There
[29:08] Speaker 5: are so many things in this that is.
[29:11] Speaker 2: There is there THHC in it as well.
[29:14] Speaker 5: Now, so this CBD, CBG, CBN different components that also work.
[29:23] Speaker 4: So well with other parts of this.
[29:28] Speaker 5: Maybe I put too much in and every time I
[29:32] Speaker 5: go back to the drawing board, I get it.
[29:34] Speaker 4: I'm so excited and it's like battery acid. The taste is.
[29:41] Speaker 7: There's ashual ganda in there, there's lions, mean the fully,
[29:46] Speaker 7: things that are really sorry, things that are really beneficial.
[29:52] Speaker 2: Now, is this something that you can sell online or
[29:54] Speaker 2: just strictly your dispensary.
[29:56] Speaker 5: Since eventually line everywhere and the components come from Hemp.
[30:03] Speaker 4: See that's a female plan.
[30:05] Speaker 2: Yes, so our company is all TC from Hemp. So
[30:09] Speaker 2: we're able to sell online.
[30:12] Speaker 4: Oh that's amazing.
[30:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, except for California just stopped us.
[30:28] Speaker 6: There's one other thing was that I was thinking about that.
[30:32] Speaker 6: You know you're you've you're hard on yourself.
[30:34] Speaker 3: I feel you. I you know, I feel you.
[30:37] Speaker 6: How that can happen, especially watching yourself back on the
[30:40] Speaker 6: first season. But there's something that you did that I
[30:43] Speaker 6: think changed a lot of people's lives in the positive.
[30:46] Speaker 6: And that's when you were at I don't know if
[30:49] Speaker 6: it was dinner or lunch with Rula, and she essentially
[30:52] Speaker 6: didn't said you didn't birth your children, and I think,
[30:57] Speaker 6: you know, like, I have an amazing, amazing stepdaughter that
[31:01] Speaker 6: I met was a baby, like, She's changed my life.
[31:05] Speaker 6: She made me want to have kids, you know, like
[31:07] Speaker 6: more kids, like And when she said that to you,
[31:10] Speaker 6: like and you just handled it with such grace, but
[31:13] Speaker 6: you were like, doesn't make me not a mother?
[31:16] Speaker 3: And I just it like Sudcomb to so many of us.
[31:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that I in the moment, I was
[31:24] Speaker 5: probably tough on Rula, but you know where I stand
[31:28] Speaker 5: on it now is willing to accept she may have
[31:32] Speaker 5: been a bit ignorant on that whole thing. And I
[31:39] Speaker 5: also get what she meant.
[31:41] Speaker 2: You know, it was rude. I'm sorry, it's just rude.
[31:44] Speaker 2: My husband has no biological kids, but he's had my kids.
[31:48] Speaker 2: I mean, my daughter was four and you know it
[31:51] Speaker 2: doesn't make him any less of a dad, no, and
[31:54] Speaker 2: he calls them his kids, and it's all.
[31:58] Speaker 4: At times it can be even more o cult.
[32:01] Speaker 2: Right, oh for sure.
[32:02] Speaker 5: And you know, to hear that it was just like,
[32:05] Speaker 5: you know, it felt someone entitled and somewhat and I
[32:11] Speaker 5: think that it was just on her part, maybe a bit.
[32:19] Speaker 5: She didn't have a bunch of self awareness and that's
[32:24] Speaker 5: reflection there.
[32:24] Speaker 2: And I got to believe, you know, but I gotta
[32:27] Speaker 2: believe after watching she had to feel bad about that
[32:30] Speaker 2: because she is a mother. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's just ignorance,
[32:36] Speaker 2: like you don't in touch.
[32:38] Speaker 4: She's just she's a bit out of touch. And I
[32:43] Speaker 4: like Roula, you know. I mean, even if you do
[32:47] Speaker 4: feel that way, I don't know. Even if I felt
[32:50] Speaker 4: that way, I don't know that i'd come out and
[32:52] Speaker 4: say it to someone.
[32:54] Speaker 2: What do you feel was your happiest moment happiest episod
[33:00] Speaker 2: So the one where you're like, I just love this.
[33:02] Speaker 2: This is like a memory I'll have forever documented.
[33:07] Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know. Maybe Jerry and
[33:11] Speaker 4: I on the boat, even though you know.
[33:14] Speaker 5: They've turned it into they had to sell the boat
[33:17] Speaker 5: because the Feds are.
[33:18] Speaker 4: Coming from them.
[33:20] Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't hear that.
[33:21] Speaker 4: Oh, it's every It's.
[33:22] Speaker 5: So ridiculous that that may have been a sweet memory.
[33:29] Speaker 5: We made several that you don't really see. The gender
[33:32] Speaker 5: reveal party was exceptionally.
[33:36] Speaker 2: Special for me. Yeah, how is your grandbaby so amazing?
[33:41] Speaker 4: She's so amazed.
[33:42] Speaker 2: How old is she?
[33:43] Speaker 1: Know?
[33:44] Speaker 4: She's five months?
[33:45] Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a great age. And what's her name?
[33:48] Speaker 4: Milania?
[33:49] Speaker 3: Milania?
[33:50] Speaker 6: Oh?
[33:50] Speaker 3: I love it's. Well, we're excited to also say that
[33:56] Speaker 3: you were.
[33:56] Speaker 6: Going to be recapping Orange County with us this week,
[33:59] Speaker 6: well because the tamer can't recap and Dolores is out
[34:02] Speaker 6: of town.
[34:02] Speaker 2: Are nice to me, be nice to me.
[34:05] Speaker 4: We're excited to do that. So excited to.
[34:10] Speaker 6: Do that was like I never listened and I got
[34:12] Speaker 6: to text you got it wrong, blah blah.
[34:16] Speaker 4: Worry about me. I'm honest, but I'm fair and I
[34:23] Speaker 4: love to root for the underdog. No matter what did
[34:27] Speaker 4: you watch? I don't care what viewers think of I
[34:30] Speaker 4: love that.
[34:30] Speaker 5: Ever.
[34:31] Speaker 2: Did you watch Housewives before you joined the cast of
[34:34] Speaker 2: Rhode Island?
[34:35] Speaker 5: Yeah, hardly missed an episode of a franchise.
[34:38] Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite franchise?
[34:44] Speaker 4: I think i'd like go Jean, New York. I don't
[34:47] Speaker 4: have a favorite. I mean they're also but they all
[34:50] Speaker 4: give different and different.
[34:52] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, certainly, I'll say, because you guys
[34:55] Speaker 5: are the ogs.
[34:56] Speaker 2: We are old bitches is what we are at this point.
[35:00] Speaker 4: I like salt Lake so good, right, Potomac's so good.
[35:05] Speaker 4: They're all so good.
[35:07] Speaker 2: I feel like Salt Lake and Rhode Island really changed
[35:09] Speaker 2: the game and Housewives because they stopped bringing on like
[35:13] Speaker 2: new shows, or they tried to reboot New York a
[35:16] Speaker 2: total reboot and it kind of flopped. Now, yeah, it
[35:19] Speaker 2: took their time to redo it, but you guys showed
[35:21] Speaker 2: that it can happen. They can do it and it
[35:25] Speaker 2: is successful.
[35:27] Speaker 5: Look, Red Island is so original and unique and we
[35:32] Speaker 5: are very specific here that you've not seen anywhere else.
[35:37] Speaker 4: And I mean I think because of that, it can't lose.
[35:41] Speaker 5: You know, we are literally one degree of separation, so
[35:46] Speaker 5: weings like it.
[35:47] Speaker 4: Whether we were.
[35:48] Speaker 5: Close coming in or not. We are a very tight
[35:53] Speaker 5: knit community.
[35:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, you recently told us. I think we learned at
[35:57] Speaker 2: the reunion that your cat passed away. Oh so sad,
[36:02] Speaker 2: So sorry about that. Did you get a new one,
[36:05] Speaker 2: any new pets?
[36:07] Speaker 4: I've not.
[36:08] Speaker 5: In fact, I had two cats, and after gone passed,
[36:14] Speaker 5: the other one wasn't doing so well as well.
[36:22] Speaker 4: You are not gone, Jake. He was. Yeah, he was
[36:27] Speaker 4: always on the bed and Jerry's highly allergic. He's not
[36:30] Speaker 4: two bangles. And I've since had to surrender her and
[36:35] Speaker 4: she's now in a forester home.
[36:38] Speaker 5: But I think that there'll be a day when Gunge
[36:42] Speaker 5: comes back and finds me.
[36:44] Speaker 4: I feel like he's this was his fourth time around
[36:47] Speaker 4: with me.
[36:48] Speaker 5: So yeah, there's there's like grief in that, and I
[36:53] Speaker 5: know it's just a cat, but it's super heavy.
[36:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's also grief that you're not coming back.
[36:59] Speaker 2: I know that you feel a certain way, but I'm
[37:02] Speaker 2: telling you have a lot of fans. People love you,
[37:05] Speaker 2: can't wait to see what you do next.
[37:08] Speaker 4: We love you, I love you guys. Thank you for
[37:12] Speaker 4: having me.
[37:13] Speaker 6: Of course, I'm on a practice.
[37:16] Speaker 4: I'm like on an exile island.
[37:19] Speaker 8: No you're not.
[37:20] Speaker 6: And we'll get right into it when we get into
[37:22] Speaker 6: Orange County, and it'll feel like nothing because you won't
[37:24] Speaker 6: be talking about anything that involves yourself and then you
[37:27] Speaker 6: can just pretend and we zone out.
[37:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's much easier.
[37:31] Speaker 2: You could just talk about me. It's okay. I'm used
[37:34] Speaker 2: to have opinions.
[37:35] Speaker 5: I am loving you on this season. It doesn't feel forced,
[37:41] Speaker 5: it feels light. I get what happened last season, the heaviness,
[37:49] Speaker 5: the gravity of what was happening with Teddy and her
[37:52] Speaker 5: being a true blue and then having to go and
[37:56] Speaker 5: deal with this drama with her. It's fucking difficult and
[38:02] Speaker 5: it can bring out shit in you you didn't even.
[38:05] Speaker 4: Know, is it? I get Listen, I get that.
[38:09] Speaker 5: And then having to show up sad, heavy, right and
[38:14] Speaker 5: be a t things in life is that are really
[38:18] Speaker 5: really real and really difficult, and then having to show
[38:22] Speaker 5: up with shit that's like so fucking stupid.
[38:26] Speaker 4: I get it.
[38:27] Speaker 2: Gets like two times in my journey on Housewives, if
[38:32] Speaker 2: this has happened, and that was Teddy, who I love dearly, oh,
[38:37] Speaker 2: and my custody battle that year that I did. My
[38:44] Speaker 2: custody battle was when I was in Bali and my
[38:46] Speaker 2: husband was trying to take my kids away. And it's
[38:49] Speaker 2: so difficult to film when your fucking heart is so broken.
[38:54] Speaker 4: And navigate when you have other heavy things.
[38:58] Speaker 2: I so get that.
[39:00] Speaker 5: And Teddy, let me just say you are a beacon,
[39:05] Speaker 5: my friend, you an icon. There can be nothing more difficult,
[39:12] Speaker 5: nothing well, I mean, you know, other than like losing
[39:15] Speaker 5: a child or something.
[39:16] Speaker 2: But you.
[39:20] Speaker 4: Are so strong and you handle all of this with
[39:24] Speaker 4: such grace, And what could be more important to show?
[39:28] Speaker 4: What journey could be more important to show?
[39:32] Speaker 3: Truly, it's really been the only thing that got me through.
[39:35] Speaker 4: You know, you said last week, but I don't.
[39:38] Speaker 5: It was almost like you felt bad that you don't
[39:40] Speaker 5: feel gratitude.
[39:41] Speaker 4: There are stages to everything, and why should you? You know,
[39:46] Speaker 4: why should you? Maybe you're in the angry feace, which
[39:49] Speaker 4: is fucking normal.
[39:50] Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine, and I should that you are
[39:54] Speaker 2: just she think so many people well, I think sometimes.
[39:59] Speaker 6: People are super like uber positive, like almost like that
[40:03] Speaker 6: toxic positivity, and then they pushed that on you, and
[40:07] Speaker 6: then you're like, hold on, Emma, is this how I'm
[40:10] Speaker 6: supposed to feel? And then I'm like, one, I just
[40:13] Speaker 6: don't feel that way at all, and two I can't
[40:15] Speaker 6: lie to the people that are going through this.
[40:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there are no rules. There are no rules
[40:20] Speaker 4: to this. How do you know?
[40:22] Speaker 5: I mean, I just think that you've been so strong
[40:27] Speaker 5: and you've handled it with incredible grace, and.
[40:33] Speaker 2: You know she's the strongest person I know.
[40:37] Speaker 3: Well, thank you, guys. I appreciate you.
[40:40] Speaker 2: Definitely changed my life and the way I look at
[40:42] Speaker 2: things and look at friends.
[40:45] Speaker 4: Even mine. This is the first time we've met, you know,
[40:49] Speaker 4: that's fucking scary. We think we have problems.
[40:52] Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, they say you can have a million problems,
[40:55] Speaker 2: which you don't have your health, you have one, got nothing.
[40:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really and I do know that.
[41:02] Speaker 6: I'm very grateful and I know that I couldn't have
[41:04] Speaker 6: done it without like the support.
[41:07] Speaker 3: And that's where this.
[41:08] Speaker 6: Doing these types of things does help, because the amount
[41:11] Speaker 6: of women that reached out after talking about it, like
[41:14] Speaker 6: with you guys on the pod, that'll reach out to
[41:16] Speaker 6: me and say, you know, I felt that same exact way.
[41:19] Speaker 6: You feel so much less alone. So in that way,
[41:21] Speaker 6: this platform can be really positive.
[41:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, I just say, I just have to say, it's
[41:26] Speaker 5: it's incredible the way you've done it, the way you've
[41:30] Speaker 5: not let it define who you are as a woman.
[41:35] Speaker 4: You've stayed steadfast.
[41:38] Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much, and you've shown it, You've
[41:40] Speaker 5: shown it truthfully and real and I really respect that.
[41:45] Speaker 2: And I've never seen anybody look so beautiful. Same fighting cancer.
[41:50] Speaker 6: Oh my god, same, well, same, you know, the help
[41:56] Speaker 6: of glam. It's like, you know, I really today, it's
[42:02] Speaker 6: a little rough going around you.
[42:03] Speaker 2: Okay, Tolly, you were at my house last week and
[42:05] Speaker 2: came home from the horse show, took a shower, no
[42:07] Speaker 2: makeup on, and was sitting there talking. I'm like, you're
[42:10] Speaker 2: beautiful without makeup. Thank you.
[42:14] Speaker 6: Well you guys, I know that we have to wrap
[42:17] Speaker 6: because we have to get into Orange County and that
[42:19] Speaker 6: means okay, well you have got I'm gonna exit, guys.
[42:23] Speaker 6: Thank my tuning in another episode of the twat Seat
[42:27] Speaker 6: and we'll talk to you soon.
[42:30] Speaker 2: Bye bye, Thank bye, Liz, thanks for having me, Thanks
[42:36] Speaker 2: for being on.
[42:36] Speaker 4: I'm your twat cycle how it says, twats
[42:42] Speaker 2: Okay, Bye guys, Bye,

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.