# Shamea vs. Porsha (RHOA Recap)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 14 Jul 2026, 41 min.

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Margaret Josephs is filling in and recapping this week’s episode with Tamra! Find out her hot takes on each RHOA housewife... We need to understand...how is Angela getting away with outlandish accusations? Plus, is there any coming back after you s**t talk your friend’s mother?? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod.
[0:04] Speaker 2: It's Teddy Mellenkim and Camra Judge.
[0:09] Speaker 3: Hi, guys, welcome back to other episode of Two Teas
[0:11] Speaker 3: in a Pod with myself, and today we have a
[0:13] Speaker 3: special co host, one of my good friends, Margaret Joseph.
[0:17] Speaker 4: Hello, Margaret Camera.
[0:19] Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. We haven't seen each
[0:21] Speaker 2: other in a bit.
[0:22] Speaker 3: I know we have so much to talk about before
[0:25] Speaker 3: we get into recapping Atlanta Episode fourteen.
[0:30] Speaker 4: First of all, how are you?
[0:32] Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm absolutely fabulous. I'm feeling great. You know,
[0:37] Speaker 1: I did that other show for Amazon Prime, The Reality.
[0:41] Speaker 1: What am I saying?
[0:42] Speaker 2: Reality and Retreat? I must forgot the name of my
[0:44] Speaker 2: show because I was so gurrut out there.
[0:45] Speaker 1: It was great.
[0:47] Speaker 4: When does that air?
[0:48] Speaker 1: I think January. I think that's going to come out
[0:50] Speaker 1: in January. That was a really, really fun show. And
[0:53] Speaker 1: you know, I did a little guest appearance on My
[0:56] Speaker 1: Golden Life Girls, and you know, some things might be
[0:59] Speaker 1: happening with that, So we'll see.
[1:01] Speaker 3: Oh are you saying? Maybe possibly you might be going
[1:04] Speaker 3: over there.
[1:05] Speaker 2: Possibly maybe we'll see you know, that's my game.
[1:10] Speaker 3: Yes, How was the transition from being on pause to
[1:15] Speaker 3: not going back was it. I mean, I know when
[1:18] Speaker 3: I I well, I was put on pause by the
[1:20] Speaker 3: time I was fired in my mind, and it was
[1:23] Speaker 3: a process. It was a little bit of a grieving process.
[1:27] Speaker 1: You know. It's very funny because I knew in my head,
[1:31] Speaker 1: you know, you know, you and I had spoken about it.
[1:33] Speaker 1: I've talked about it. I spoke with the network back
[1:35] Speaker 1: in December. I knew if the show was going in
[1:38] Speaker 1: a certain direction, I already had in my head I
[1:40] Speaker 1: was done with it.
[1:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, you told me we were.
[1:42] Speaker 2: We were on hold. You know, we were on pause
[1:44] Speaker 2: for over two years.
[1:45] Speaker 1: So I was used to not filming, not working, and
[1:48] Speaker 1: I already knew in my head, if it's going in
[1:51] Speaker 1: that direction, that's not for me. So I already resigned
[1:54] Speaker 1: myself to that fact. I was like, that's just not
[1:56] Speaker 1: my gig anymore. So I kind of was like, Okay,
[1:59] Speaker 1: I felt like it was a great journey. It was fine,
[2:01] Speaker 1: fabulous while it lasted, and I was like, all right, whatever,
[2:05] Speaker 1: and then that other show had come up very quickly,
[2:08] Speaker 1: and it was like it was fine.
[2:10] Speaker 2: It's just like I didn't skip a beat.
[2:12] Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like also with E doing their new shows, Housewives.
[2:18] Speaker 4: Said have moved on, Yes, have the option.
[2:23] Speaker 1: Now.
[2:23] Speaker 3: I think I think he's going to start picking up
[2:26] Speaker 3: different franchises, don't you.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's exactly what's going to happen. And
[2:30] Speaker 1: I think, you know, I could just it's a more
[2:33] Speaker 1: comfortable space for me. I think I've maybe just out
[2:37] Speaker 1: grown that kind of drama. Listen. I love you know,
[2:40] Speaker 1: I love being sarcastic, I love being opinionated.
[2:42] Speaker 2: I loved my ladies on the show.
[2:45] Speaker 1: But I think it just got to a place that
[2:46] Speaker 1: really didn't work for us. You know.
[2:49] Speaker 2: It's about supposed to be.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Back for friends who could make up, and I think
[2:52] Speaker 1: just there was so much water under the bridge that
[2:54] Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't let bygones
[2:59] Speaker 1: be bygones, because you know, when certain lines across, you
[3:02] Speaker 1: just can't go back.
[3:03] Speaker 4: Who do you still talk to on the show?
[3:04] Speaker 1: Oh, Melissa, Dolores. Melissa and Dolores. There's the only two
[3:08] Speaker 1: ones left on the show. And then of course I
[3:09] Speaker 1: speak to Rachel Food. I still speak to Danielle Cabral obviously,
[3:12] Speaker 1: Jen Bessler.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Now it's all over that they're on their cast trip.
[3:16] Speaker 3: When we film, we're not allowed to talk about it.
[3:19] Speaker 3: We're not allowed to post pictures.
[3:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little weird. I'm surprised that they're posting
[3:23] Speaker 1: and everything else. I'm not going to say anything. The
[3:27] Speaker 1: whole thing is I am.
[3:28] Speaker 2: That's the only thing. I do have a little line.
[3:29] Speaker 2: B they got to go to I see that they're
[3:31] Speaker 2: in Korea.
[3:31] Speaker 1: I would love to glam trip to Korea, but I
[3:33] Speaker 1: could go myself get my own beauty treatment. Yeah right
[3:37] Speaker 1: right that it looks fine.
[3:39] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[3:40] Speaker 3: I was shocked that they were able to like post
[3:42] Speaker 3: from there, say where they're at. I mean somebody leaked
[3:46] Speaker 3: at I think what happened was the producers were over
[3:49] Speaker 3: there and they were taking pictures and they posted them.
[3:53] Speaker 3: And then you know how these fan accounts are, They
[3:55] Speaker 3: follow the producers like a ton of them follow the
[3:58] Speaker 3: loops on our show, and if he starts posting, the
[4:02] Speaker 3: cat is out of the bag.
[4:04] Speaker 4: No.
[4:04] Speaker 2: But I saw the girls at the airport posting from
[4:06] Speaker 2: the airport.
[4:06] Speaker 4: Also, Melissa.
[4:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, Liless is like I'm on my way to Korea,
[4:11] Speaker 1: and I'm like, crack it up.
[4:13] Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. We would get killed if.
[4:16] Speaker 1: When we were filming, you know, we'd be murdered. We're
[4:18] Speaker 1: like they're like, no posting this, Dolores not posting. Dolores
[4:21] Speaker 1: always done good behavior, oh always Yes, she's a rule follower, Dolores.
[4:26] Speaker 2: She's very good that way.
[4:28] Speaker 4: So what else have you been up to?
[4:30] Speaker 1: That's really you know, working on Soiree, my beverage brand.
[4:33] Speaker 1: I've been doing that, you know, nonstuff. It's not you know,
[4:35] Speaker 1: as I everything. It's not easy to get a beverage
[4:38] Speaker 1: off the ground. So we've been really working hard on that.
[4:41] Speaker 1: Working on a new book called The Morning Wars m
[4:44] Speaker 1: O you r n I n G.
[4:47] Speaker 2: It's a novel based.
[4:48] Speaker 1: On truth about grief and Shiva and something like that
[4:53] Speaker 1: kind of a it's a dark comedy, uh, pretty good
[4:56] Speaker 1: about a Jewish family. So I've been working on that,
[4:59] Speaker 1: and you know, be on the Hamptons this summer most
[5:02] Speaker 1: of the summer.
[5:03] Speaker 3: I'm headed to New York on Wednesday, but I'm really there.
[5:08] Speaker 3: I get in at eight thirty at night, I land,
[5:10] Speaker 3: so I won't be back to my hotel until nine thirty.
[5:12] Speaker 3: Then the next morning I get up, I go do press,
[5:15] Speaker 3: then I go to watch What Happens live, and then
[5:17] Speaker 3: at five in the morning, I go to the airport.
[5:18] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[5:19] Speaker 2: So it's like a real quick trip. So it's busy.
[5:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, Eddie couldn't go, so I'm just going by myself.
[5:25] Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm just going to fly in and
[5:27] Speaker 3: fly out. And we got a lot of traveling in
[5:29] Speaker 3: the next month, so I'm like, I don't even want
[5:33] Speaker 3: to extend it exactly.
[5:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to stay here. And to be honest,
[5:37] Speaker 1: the city's emptied out. It's really empty.
[5:39] Speaker 4: Right now, is it. Yes, and it looks hot in
[5:43] Speaker 4: my gate gross. Yeah. Yeah.
[5:46] Speaker 3: Well let's get in. First of all, thank you so
[5:48] Speaker 3: much for filling in.
[5:49] Speaker 4: For Dolores, and.
[5:52] Speaker 3: Let's get into recapping Atlanta. Have you been watching all
[5:56] Speaker 3: season long?
[5:57] Speaker 2: Yes, I've been watching.
[5:58] Speaker 1: I've had to catch up on the list two episodes,
[6:01] Speaker 1: but it's been very judasy.
[6:03] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[6:03] Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of have you been watching, have you been
[6:05] Speaker 3: watching Orange County the first Yes.
[6:08] Speaker 2: I'm ketchup.
[6:09] Speaker 1: I watched last night, last night's episode, and I felt
[6:11] Speaker 1: I did not like.
[6:12] Speaker 2: I felt bad when you left.
[6:13] Speaker 1: And you know, when Jen dropped that tea saying, you know,
[6:16] Speaker 1: they put you in a box, I didn't like that. Yeah, well,
[6:20] Speaker 1: you know that's that's not a nice thing to say.
[6:22] Speaker 2: You think everything's fine, and then they say something, I.
[6:25] Speaker 3: Mean, coming after last season, yes, which was extremely difficult.
[6:31] Speaker 4: Was I shocked? No? No, wasn't completely shocked.
[6:36] Speaker 3: I lived it, watched it, I felt, and I'm just
[6:42] Speaker 3: anxious for you guys to see what happens the rest
[6:44] Speaker 3: the season.
[6:45] Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait to watch. I hope you have
[6:47] Speaker 1: liked the best season moving forward.
[6:48] Speaker 4: The way after this youah, I think it's a pretty
[6:50] Speaker 4: good season.
[6:51] Speaker 1: Good.
[6:52] Speaker 3: Well, let's get into Atlanta. So they are still in Scotland.
[6:56] Speaker 3: The ladies partake in a Scottish in.
[6:58] Speaker 4: Scottish games, getting a love toss. What else did they do?
[7:04] Speaker 4: Tuggle war?
[7:05] Speaker 1: I'm like, war?
[7:06] Speaker 4: Are these really Scottish games?
[7:10] Speaker 3: The guy in the kilt was cracking me up because
[7:12] Speaker 3: he wasn't messing around. He's like, I'm not putting up
[7:14] Speaker 3: with you bitches.
[7:15] Speaker 1: Tell he was hardcore. He was hardcore. Yeah.
[7:18] Speaker 3: Telling Cynthia, She's like, do you think the weekend? He's like,
[7:20] Speaker 3: just do as you're told.
[7:22] Speaker 4: I know, I laugh about that.
[7:24] Speaker 2: Some of the girls got turned on by that, I saw.
[7:26] Speaker 1: I know.
[7:27] Speaker 4: I mean, these girls get turned on by everything.
[7:29] Speaker 1: Very sexual. I mean, you know they were talking about
[7:32] Speaker 1: the porn they watch. I mean, I was like, wow,
[7:35] Speaker 1: I know which is okay? I mean, listen, I love it.
[7:38] Speaker 1: They're modern ladies.
[7:39] Speaker 3: What do you think about ky Michelle, the new girl
[7:42] Speaker 3: that's on the show this year.
[7:44] Speaker 1: I like that little Camachelle.
[7:45] Speaker 4: I like her too.
[7:46] Speaker 1: I like her. She's adorable, she's funny, she's sweet.
[7:50] Speaker 2: You know, she's every side. I like sassy, sweet, empathetic.
[7:54] Speaker 1: I like her.
[7:56] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I really like her too.
[7:58] Speaker 1: I really like her.
[7:59] Speaker 3: So I think they're trying to do like a Traders
[8:01] Speaker 3: type of situation here, because two of the girls were
[8:04] Speaker 3: on Traders.
[8:04] Speaker 4: Would you ever go on Traders?
[8:05] Speaker 2: I would definitely go on Traders. I would like to
[8:07] Speaker 2: go on Traders.
[8:08] Speaker 4: I could see you on Traders.
[8:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:10] Speaker 2: I would really like it. Just for the outfits alone,
[8:12] Speaker 2: I'd like to go.
[8:13] Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
[8:14] Speaker 3: So after the log tossing and all that craft that
[8:18] Speaker 3: went on, they go in and have appetizers. Yes, I know,
[8:23] Speaker 3: goat brains, goat brains and intestines.
[8:27] Speaker 1: I know that. But it did not look like there
[8:29] Speaker 1: was chocolate on top of it.
[8:31] Speaker 4: It did I'm afraid, I don't know.
[8:35] Speaker 3: It's like they're having hot toddies in Brain of lamb Off.
[8:39] Speaker 4: No, way, I'm not eating that.
[8:41] Speaker 2: I know I'm not a brain. You know I'm not
[8:43] Speaker 2: gonna eat the brain.
[8:44] Speaker 1: I mean, you know when in Scotland, you know they're
[8:47] Speaker 1: trying to I mean, I give Porscha credit.
[8:48] Speaker 2: She tried to scarf it down.
[8:50] Speaker 4: She did, and then who was it?
[8:52] Speaker 3: Somebody goes I'm surprised Porsche has a gag reflex.
[8:55] Speaker 1: I know Angela, Angela?
[8:57] Speaker 3: Yes, what do you think about Angela?
[9:01] Speaker 1: I don't love Angela probably as much because I think
[9:05] Speaker 1: we're going to get into that after. I think, you know, listen,
[9:08] Speaker 1: I love a pot starer. I love somebody who moves
[9:10] Speaker 1: this story along. She does a lot of.
[9:13] Speaker 4: Fabricating kind of seems like it right.
[9:16] Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't love that. I love someone who
[9:19] Speaker 1: moves the story along, and it is a truth teller,
[9:21] Speaker 1: but not someone who makes up lies.
[9:23] Speaker 3: That's somebody that like exaggerates.
[9:27] Speaker 1: I don't.
[9:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that part.
[9:30] Speaker 1: I don't like.
[9:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:31] Speaker 3: Well, another exaggerator I feel like is Shemiah, and I
[9:35] Speaker 3: feel like she plays the victim just a little bit.
[9:38] Speaker 3: So she Smia goes in and calls her mom crying
[9:42] Speaker 3: and questions why Porschia can't forgive her. Yes, it feels
[9:46] Speaker 3: a little bit like she's trying to victimize herself.
[9:49] Speaker 1: Yes, I feel there's some but I do feel like
[9:52] Speaker 1: we're not seeing everything because they had a real, genuine
[9:54] Speaker 1: friendship and there has to be some undercurrent. I do
[10:00] Speaker 1: maybe Porsche did say to her is like, just be
[10:03] Speaker 1: a friend of maybe don't have the peach, because Porscha
[10:05] Speaker 1: probably realized when that happens, a friendship can dissolve on
[10:09] Speaker 1: the show.
[10:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard because we find out later,
[10:12] Speaker 3: like they do a flashback with Andy and and she
[10:15] Speaker 3: says like, Andy, have I not been trying to get
[10:17] Speaker 3: her on the show?
[10:18] Speaker 4: And He's like yes, So there's there is a lot
[10:21] Speaker 4: of confusion.
[10:22] Speaker 3: But having a good friend with a lot of history
[10:25] Speaker 3: on the show, Andy's damaging to that friendship.
[10:29] Speaker 1: Go south very very quickly. And I think maybe Porsche
[10:33] Speaker 1: knew that because I think Porscha really did care for Shemiah,
[10:36] Speaker 1: and I think you know, it was and Shemiah had
[10:39] Speaker 1: a big, great life and that was Porscha's thing. It's
[10:42] Speaker 1: hard when very close friends are both on the same
[10:44] Speaker 1: show together.
[10:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[10:46] Speaker 3: Well, ky Michelle has actually seen that Shimiya is playing
[10:49] Speaker 3: the victim as well, and she's constantly saying how nobody's
[10:52] Speaker 3: on her side.
[10:53] Speaker 4: Now.
[10:54] Speaker 3: I do know that they filmed the reunion last week
[10:56] Speaker 3: and kay Michelle unfollowed Shemya after the.
[10:59] Speaker 2: Reunion, Oh I don't, okay, So that says a lot
[11:02] Speaker 2: right there.
[11:03] Speaker 3: So some shit went down at the reunion and they're
[11:05] Speaker 3: no longer speaking.
[11:07] Speaker 1: I you know, up until later in the episode. Last night,
[11:11] Speaker 1: I felt sorry for Shemiah because I didn't like what
[11:14] Speaker 1: Angela was doing to her. When someone says those things
[11:17] Speaker 1: about you know, Shemiah fooling around and all of that stuff.
[11:21] Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't happening, and when you put that
[11:23] Speaker 1: shit out there. But that was the other thing no
[11:24] Speaker 1: one found, you know, defended Shmia. That was the only
[11:27] Speaker 1: thing I felt badly about, Like why was no one
[11:29] Speaker 1: really irritated with Angela that she's making up all this shit?
[11:32] Speaker 4: Well, because they do it to each other, they really do.
[11:35] Speaker 3: Like these girls hardcore go after each other with just
[11:37] Speaker 3: the gnarliest stuff.
[11:39] Speaker 4: And we see it at the end of the lies.
[11:41] Speaker 3: I know, well we see it at the end of
[11:43] Speaker 3: the episode and I'm I'm like, is this a lie?
[11:45] Speaker 4: Is it not a lie? Curious to see how that falls.
[11:49] Speaker 2: But but George's wife says it's not true.
[11:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, Georgia's wife texted Shamia Ashley says it's not true.
[11:55] Speaker 1: When that Angela was making it up, it's not you know,
[11:59] Speaker 1: And Fadri said it in her.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Confessional that it's not true. So that was the only thing.
[12:02] Speaker 1: I felt like, no one came, you know, besides Kate Michelle,
[12:06] Speaker 1: no one had Kelly, no one really came to Shemis.
[12:09] Speaker 2: I think that's what she was.
[12:10] Speaker 1: Kind of feeling. So that's the only thing I was
[12:12] Speaker 1: feeling sorry for her up until that point.
[12:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, I met her and she was very lovely. But
[12:17] Speaker 3: this season something's going on. She is a different person
[12:20] Speaker 3: this season.
[12:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, something must be. There's some kind of undercarment there,
[12:23] Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what it is.
[12:32] Speaker 3: We see Kay and Pinky talk about she may have
[12:35] Speaker 3: an issues in the group, and it's like constant every
[12:38] Speaker 3: episode She's like, nobody likes me, nobody, And I'm like, I'm.
[12:43] Speaker 4: Not really getting that. Honestly, I'm not getting that nobody
[12:46] Speaker 4: likes her.
[12:47] Speaker 2: No, I think people do like her, and I think
[12:50] Speaker 2: I'm telling you and I.
[12:51] Speaker 1: Do agree with the other girls. I think she's upset
[12:53] Speaker 1: that her and Porsche. Listen, Porsha's not coming after her,
[12:56] Speaker 1: but Porscha's like called to her, doesn't engage with her,
[12:58] Speaker 1: and I think it's getting to her.
[13:00] Speaker 3: Well, here's another thing speaking of that, Like, we're on
[13:03] Speaker 3: what episode fourteen? There's been no engagement between the two
[13:06] Speaker 3: of them and fourty episodes?
[13:09] Speaker 4: How the hell have they gotten away with that?
[13:11] Speaker 1: We'd be in big trouble.
[13:13] Speaker 4: They wouldn't be allowed. They would have made us talk
[13:16] Speaker 4: at a certain point.
[13:17] Speaker 1: I know, I know it would have been. It would
[13:19] Speaker 1: have we would have been in big trouble. That can't happen.
[13:22] Speaker 2: But I think that's what it is.
[13:23] Speaker 1: I think Porscha is very good at not engaging and
[13:28] Speaker 1: she's not being mean. She even leaves the room when
[13:30] Speaker 1: they talk negatively about Shamiyah, which I gave her credit for.
[13:33] Speaker 1: But Shemia can't take that Porscha's not engaging with her.
[13:36] Speaker 1: She can't take that she's not getting a reaction out
[13:38] Speaker 1: of her or something.
[13:39] Speaker 4: Like well, I can't take it either.
[13:41] Speaker 3: I'm used to Porscha being like explosive and reactive, and
[13:44] Speaker 3: this new Porsche.
[13:45] Speaker 4: She's just staying calm.
[13:46] Speaker 3: But thank god she did at the end of this
[13:48] Speaker 3: episode because I think it really did help her.
[13:51] Speaker 1: It did.
[13:52] Speaker 3: Now Pinky thinks Shemi is fighting everyone and she has
[13:54] Speaker 3: bigger issues.
[13:55] Speaker 4: That she's dealing with.
[13:57] Speaker 3: So the girls are seeing like Simi is not acting
[14:00] Speaker 3: herself this season, and potentially there's something bigger that we
[14:03] Speaker 3: don't know about.
[14:05] Speaker 1: Well, maybe is it because you know she she wants
[14:08] Speaker 1: to have another child, this surrogated I don't know. I
[14:10] Speaker 1: really think it's the undercurrent with the Porsche situation. I
[14:14] Speaker 1: I do. I think that friendship when you have when
[14:17] Speaker 1: you're close with someone for so many years.
[14:19] Speaker 2: I think also coming over the.
[14:20] Speaker 1: Off the last reunion, she seemed very upset that you know,
[14:26] Speaker 1: Porsche spoke about her mother, yeah, you know, on that situation,
[14:31] Speaker 1: and she didn't address it really at the reunion. She
[14:33] Speaker 1: wanted to hold truth about it tight about it.
[14:37] Speaker 3: The part that I don't understand is Porscha's mom but
[14:40] Speaker 3: her mom's daycare center.
[14:43] Speaker 1: No, uh, MEA's mom bought Porsche's mom's daycare center.
[14:50] Speaker 4: Oh okay, and.
[14:52] Speaker 2: What it was it was?
[14:52] Speaker 1: I think Porsche's mom's daycare center wasn't doing well or
[14:55] Speaker 1: something happened.
[14:56] Speaker 2: It was up for sale and.
[14:58] Speaker 4: Well Isn't that a good thing though?
[15:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, and she MEA's mom bought it, and I think
[15:03] Speaker 1: it was maybe Porscha said it negatively. I don't know
[15:07] Speaker 1: exactly what had occurred, but I guess it was private
[15:10] Speaker 1: family business. But Porscha said it was out there, and
[15:13] Speaker 1: you know, I think Shmia felt Porsche put it out
[15:16] Speaker 1: there negatively, and she's like, what's going on here?
[15:19] Speaker 4: How do you like Pinky? I like that little pinky,
[15:23] Speaker 4: Little Pinky.
[15:24] Speaker 1: I like that little pinky. Yeah, she's very raw. She
[15:28] Speaker 1: puts it out there about her business and everything else,
[15:30] Speaker 1: and you know, she's being very honest how hard it
[15:33] Speaker 1: is to be a woman in business and her bankruptcy
[15:35] Speaker 1: and everything else.
[15:36] Speaker 3: I mean, well you're a woman in business. Yeah, So
[15:38] Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion on this. They're back
[15:40] Speaker 3: at the castle. Pinky's emotional about how much your lawsuits
[15:43] Speaker 3: and business are costing her.
[15:46] Speaker 4: I'm confused.
[15:48] Speaker 3: She claims she's running multi million dollar businesses and two
[15:54] Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars is getting to her.
[15:57] Speaker 1: I think, yeah, she's you know, I think she's probably
[16:02] Speaker 1: just like she has the bankruptcy. I think she has
[16:05] Speaker 1: a multimillion you know, she's trying to get you know,
[16:08] Speaker 1: these businesses off the ground. And I think what's upsetting
[16:10] Speaker 1: her is that nothing can be run without her.
[16:14] Speaker 2: She can't be on this trip and relax.
[16:17] Speaker 1: She's delegating and paying people to do stuff, and it's
[16:20] Speaker 1: just like, I think it's a build up of everything.
[16:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think she's maybe in over her head.
[16:26] Speaker 2: I think she doesn't want to take the help.
[16:28] Speaker 1: And I think when she sees that nothing's going right,
[16:31] Speaker 1: it's just like one thing after the other. She's like,
[16:34] Speaker 1: you know, look at everything I've sacrificed. She feels like
[16:36] Speaker 1: she's sacrificed a relationships. She hasn't shown up at places,
[16:40] Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's compounded and Angela. You
[16:45] Speaker 1: know when Angela said she ties the Rye Downy to Hermioney.
[16:47] Speaker 1: I don't think it's her money. I think it's the
[16:49] Speaker 1: success of her business. You know, she puts so much
[16:52] Speaker 1: of rydwenty in her business, not the financial aspect, but
[16:55] Speaker 1: the success of growing a business and that it's not
[16:58] Speaker 1: coming to fruition. She's like, I sacrifice so much for this,
[17:02] Speaker 1: and I think that's her realization she's having.
[17:04] Speaker 2: I think that's why she's crumbling.
[17:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she says she sacrificed her home and
[17:08] Speaker 3: her marriage, yeah, for her business, And at what point
[17:11] Speaker 3: do you say enough is enough? It's like, you know
[17:13] Speaker 3: what they say, more money, more problems.
[17:16] Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly That's what I felt. I felt for her,
[17:19] Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just like, because you know,
[17:22] Speaker 1: she did she put I'm sure she didn't show up
[17:24] Speaker 1: at certain things she wanted to. It's like, you can't
[17:26] Speaker 1: like sacrifice your family, and I think, you know, you
[17:29] Speaker 1: can't have it all at the same time, I don't
[17:31] Speaker 1: care what anyone says, and I think she's realizing that,
[17:33] Speaker 1: and she's like, for what, So I could pay another
[17:35] Speaker 1: bill and I'm paying these people to do stuff and
[17:37] Speaker 1: they're not handling it. I'm trying to be here on
[17:39] Speaker 1: a trip and you know, people are calling me for
[17:41] Speaker 1: money and this and.
[17:42] Speaker 4: That, and yeah.
[17:44] Speaker 3: I mean she's got a great husband though, and he
[17:45] Speaker 3: wants so adorable and.
[17:47] Speaker 4: She's just like, does she wants to do it all
[17:49] Speaker 4: on her own?
[17:50] Speaker 1: Yeah? I get it. I think she probably feels like
[17:52] Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be rescued. You know, I'm sure
[17:55] Speaker 1: it's some deep therapeutic getsue where me I would just.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Be like, you know, help me out where a team.
[18:01] Speaker 1: You know, I want to be a team. You know,
[18:04] Speaker 1: when one person's not doing all, the other person could
[18:06] Speaker 1: kick in and vice versa. Right.
[18:08] Speaker 3: So back in the Sprinner Van, the girls talk about
[18:10] Speaker 3: Drew getting fingered in a physical therapy by her physical
[18:17] Speaker 3: therapists and I'm trying to fix her pelvic floor or
[18:21] Speaker 3: something like that.
[18:22] Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this serious?
[18:23] Speaker 1: It is by the way, that's a thing.
[18:25] Speaker 4: Is it really a thing?
[18:27] Speaker 1: It is a thing, now, you know. I hate to
[18:28] Speaker 1: out Lexi, but you know, LEXI had to do this, so.
[18:33] Speaker 4: You're paying somebody.
[18:36] Speaker 1: It is.
[18:36] Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. It's like a pelvi.
[18:38] Speaker 1: Now I didn't have I didn't have this issue. But
[18:41] Speaker 1: a lot of women you know, who have vaginal births
[18:45] Speaker 1: or whatever it is, it's a real thing. They stick
[18:48] Speaker 1: their fingers up there, they get the muscles going.
[18:50] Speaker 2: It's not sexual, doesn't feel sexual, but they.
[18:53] Speaker 1: Want to make sure the pelvic muscles are working right,
[18:57] Speaker 1: and uh yeah, they finger your pelvic floor.
[19:00] Speaker 2: And they you know something, so the muscles are good.
[19:03] Speaker 1: They have like little little machines that are like little
[19:05] Speaker 1: vibrators that go in the there and give you a
[19:07] Speaker 1: bio feedback.
[19:08] Speaker 2: It's like a whole imagine.
[19:10] Speaker 4: Oh my god.
[19:11] Speaker 1: You know years ago they just let it fall out
[19:13] Speaker 1: and you were screwed, But now you know you could
[19:15] Speaker 1: get it fixed.
[19:16] Speaker 3: Well, Padre says that you can fix it by having sex,
[19:20] Speaker 3: and you can just knock it back up there.
[19:22] Speaker 4: So I had to fact check that.
[19:23] Speaker 3: And sex can serve as a gentle natural workout for
[19:27] Speaker 3: the pelvic floor.
[19:28] Speaker 1: Okay, so that's good.
[19:29] Speaker 2: You know, you just bang the pelvic floor right back
[19:31] Speaker 2: into place.
[19:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're talking about somebody said, somebody said that
[19:40] Speaker 3: Kelly's outfit looked like she was working at McDonald's. And
[19:44] Speaker 3: she says that her boyfriend bought a floor. And then
[19:46] Speaker 3: Fader goes into the teeth, the same guy that bought
[19:49] Speaker 3: her the seventy thousand dollars teeth.
[19:50] Speaker 4: And I'm with Fadra, get some crust white strips.
[19:54] Speaker 3: I never noticed that Kelly's teeth were bad, and take
[19:56] Speaker 3: that seventy thousand dollars and help pay for all the
[20:01] Speaker 3: you know, debt you're in.
[20:02] Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'd be like,
[20:05] Speaker 1: I don't need my teeth right now, I need, you know,
[20:07] Speaker 1: to have my bills paid. Maybe maybe she could weasel
[20:09] Speaker 1: out the bill MANI also though, if he's wanting to
[20:12] Speaker 1: pay for the teeth, he might be willing to pay
[20:14] Speaker 1: for you know, the other stuff help her out the
[20:16] Speaker 1: other way. I'm w Phaedra Olson with you too. I
[20:21] Speaker 1: just want to also say, listen, I also want to
[20:22] Speaker 1: give Shamia and phaedr credit here. They really were both
[20:26] Speaker 1: good girlfriends. Shouldia put her right in the townhouse and
[20:29] Speaker 1: Phaedria's not charging her for legal bills. So the women
[20:32] Speaker 1: really stepped up right.
[20:34] Speaker 4: I know, it was really nice for them to do that.
[20:36] Speaker 3: And it's nice to see a different side of Kelly
[20:39] Speaker 3: because a lot of times all we see is a
[20:41] Speaker 3: lot of screeching and yelling and name calling and all that.
[20:46] Speaker 4: She's in quite a predicament.
[20:48] Speaker 3: Her husband, her ex husband, is suing Robo at this time.
[20:53] Speaker 4: He's not allowing her to film with the kids.
[20:57] Speaker 3: Her businesses are crumbling, and she's worried that the income
[21:02] Speaker 3: that she does have coming in through Bravo is going
[21:06] Speaker 3: to be gone.
[21:08] Speaker 1: Of course, of course, her life's.
[21:11] Speaker 4: Like really falling apart for her now, I know, and.
[21:13] Speaker 2: She was at her financial advisor. I mean, she does
[21:16] Speaker 2: spend a lot on the hair.
[21:17] Speaker 3: I mean, I think those girls in general spend a
[21:21] Speaker 3: lot on clothes and glam and.
[21:24] Speaker 4: Things like that.
[21:25] Speaker 1: I know, you know, if some things happen, I'm too
[21:27] Speaker 1: cheap for that.
[21:28] Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I like.
[21:30] Speaker 1: To spend on clothes everything else, but I just have jewels.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Just blows out my hair pieces and I just whack
[21:35] Speaker 1: them on my head, you know, like it's I don't
[21:38] Speaker 1: feel like I spend as much.
[21:40] Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see Julius. I know, on Thursday,
[21:44] Speaker 4: I loving.
[21:46] Speaker 1: So much prozac, and you know, in a human right.
[21:50] Speaker 3: So the girls go shopping for a Scottish sash. Portia
[21:53] Speaker 3: offers to put it all on her card. Sure aka
[21:57] Speaker 3: production card. Kelly asked if there's a budget, and Portia says,
[22:00] Speaker 3: for you, there is. I just kind of felt like
[22:04] Speaker 3: this whole scene, like did we really need to see it?
[22:08] Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where were they wearing their
[22:09] Speaker 1: little sashes? I would see there's.
[22:11] Speaker 3: I didn't even see them wearing the little sashes to dinner.
[22:14] Speaker 2: No, they weren't even wearing their little sashes. They're little
[22:16] Speaker 2: Scottish sashes.
[22:17] Speaker 1: They should have bought little kilts, I know, right, they
[22:20] Speaker 1: should be wearing little kilts.
[22:22] Speaker 3: Drew announces that she has a new song coming out
[22:24] Speaker 3: with ray J. Is that the same one that Kim
[22:27] Speaker 3: Kardashian used to date ray J?
[22:28] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[22:28] Speaker 2: I thought, now, by the way, God forgive me, I'm
[22:31] Speaker 2: going to make the sign across. I thought Reje was
[22:32] Speaker 2: on his deathbed.
[22:34] Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, wasn't he very sick? I don't know.
[22:38] Speaker 2: I thought Reggie was very sick.
[22:40] Speaker 1: I didn't know he could get it whip out of tune.
[22:42] Speaker 2: But I mean, listen, good, good for him that he's
[22:44] Speaker 2: made a comeback.
[22:45] Speaker 3: Well, then kay Michelle says inter confessional, good for them,
[22:51] Speaker 3: and she's like it could be a hit because delusion
[22:54] Speaker 3: and delusional can make a great hit. Yes, of all,
[22:57] Speaker 3: no shaite there, and then Pinky Pinky starts singing. I
[23:01] Speaker 3: think she sings Drew song, and she's actually got a
[23:03] Speaker 3: very good voice.
[23:05] Speaker 1: She does. I think Pinky does have a very good voice.
[23:08] Speaker 3: I of course she had to put her down. She's like, well,
[23:11] Speaker 3: I don't Drew had to put her down.
[23:13] Speaker 4: I don't know what note that is. But okay, that's good.
[23:17] Speaker 1: I know, I know Drew really stuck it to you know,
[23:19] Speaker 1: stuck it to her and also stuck it to her
[23:22] Speaker 1: about her audition.
[23:23] Speaker 2: I just I know we're backtracking a little there, but
[23:26] Speaker 2: I was like.
[23:26] Speaker 1: What is that about?
[23:27] Speaker 3: I know, well, let's get into this because this is
[23:31] Speaker 3: just crazy town. At dinner, Sami and Porscha get into it. Finally,
[23:36] Speaker 3: we finally get to know where they are and why
[23:39] Speaker 3: they haven't been talking, and they've been just cordial to
[23:41] Speaker 3: each other. And it starts off with whether Porsha wanted
[23:45] Speaker 3: me to have a peach. Yeah, like we said, there
[23:48] Speaker 3: was a flashback and Andy Agreen that Porsha tried to
[23:50] Speaker 3: get Shamia on the show.
[23:53] Speaker 4: Porsha not allowing her daughter to go to.
[23:56] Speaker 3: Shamia's house because they might try to poison her like
[24:00] Speaker 3: she did Porsche. Now I think that's a little dramatic,
[24:03] Speaker 3: but I don't blame Porsche. I'm not gonna let my
[24:07] Speaker 3: young child go to somebody's house that doesn't like me.
[24:13] Speaker 1: You know, it's a weird I was so on the
[24:16] Speaker 1: fence about this because I'm that way.
[24:17] Speaker 2: Also, I mean, I'm that way.
[24:19] Speaker 1: My son's thirty years old, and I'm just like, I
[24:21] Speaker 1: hate that woman. I don't be already you know.
[24:23] Speaker 2: What I mean in my head, but I also feel.
[24:25] Speaker 1: Like Dennis is still part of their life, so Dennis
[24:28] Speaker 1: can't bring you know, Polar there either, even though Dennis
[24:32] Speaker 1: is close with her husband. Isn't Dennis close with Gerald?
[24:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, but what Dennis does with his daughter on his
[24:40] Speaker 3: time is his business.
[24:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, So Borsia can't stop worship.
[24:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, but she is, that's what's happening. So she won't
[24:47] Speaker 1: let Polar go over there with Dennis. So I think
[24:51] Speaker 1: that's what.
[24:51] Speaker 4: Was so okay, does she make you.
[24:53] Speaker 2: Won't let Polar come over?
[24:56] Speaker 4: You know?
[24:56] Speaker 1: Dennis was like, you know, Pilar can't come here. So
[24:59] Speaker 1: I think that's why Shemia was upset. She was like,
[25:01] Speaker 1: I'm not going to hurt your daughter, Like why are
[25:03] Speaker 1: you doing this? Like they have such a long history.
[25:07] Speaker 4: Yeah that no, that makes more sense. I didn't know that.
[25:10] Speaker 4: I thought it was.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, so that's why I wanted a play.
[25:13] Speaker 1: Date and she's like no, no, So I felt, you know,
[25:16] Speaker 1: I felt that's I kind of felt bad. So Shemia'
[25:18] Speaker 1: is like, god, you now, like, you know, our kids
[25:21] Speaker 1: can't even be together with Dennis being there. Dennis is there,
[25:24] Speaker 1: so I felt bad about that, but I understand, you know.
[25:28] Speaker 2: So she's like keeping her daughter from there.
[25:29] Speaker 1: It's a weird.
[25:30] Speaker 2: That's a weird thing because they have such a history.
[25:33] Speaker 1: So that's like, so I think Shemia was like, well,
[25:35] Speaker 1: basically you're saying, it's just like we're done, We're done
[25:37] Speaker 1: for good.
[25:38] Speaker 3: It was Portia that said, you know, if it was
[25:41] Speaker 3: like my sister or someone like that, or somebody in family,
[25:44] Speaker 3: I'd have no problem even if.
[25:45] Speaker 4: We weren't on good terms. But you're not family. And
[25:49] Speaker 4: then Shemia's like, but you said we are.
[25:52] Speaker 3: We've known each other for so long, and they do
[25:54] Speaker 3: a flashback to her saying that they're basically like a family.
[25:56] Speaker 3: So she kind of got around that one.
[25:58] Speaker 4: But it's a it's a tough situation.
[26:01] Speaker 3: I don't want my kids somewhere where they can be
[26:04] Speaker 3: influenced by somebody else talking about me exactly.
[26:08] Speaker 1: Well, I would hope Shamia would have the decency not
[26:10] Speaker 1: to talk about Porsche in front of Pollard. But I understand,
[26:15] Speaker 1: you know, Porscha's being trepidacious about having her there. You know,
[26:20] Speaker 1: I get both sides of that story, and it's a
[26:22] Speaker 1: very very tough one.
[26:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, and then plus she kind of sees how Shamia
[26:27] Speaker 3: was with maybe Angela's daughter.
[26:29] Speaker 1: I mean she had.
[26:31] Speaker 2: You know, Angela's daughter is a grown woman. That's a
[26:34] Speaker 2: different story.
[26:35] Speaker 1: Angela's door is a grown Okay, so she said, you're
[26:37] Speaker 1: sweeter than your mother.
[26:38] Speaker 2: Oh big deal, you know, I fact didn't bother me
[26:40] Speaker 2: that much.
[26:41] Speaker 1: I mean, Angela, I'm.
[26:42] Speaker 4: Sure most people would say that to my daughter too.
[26:44] Speaker 4: I mean I.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Think people say, you know, I think there's a lot
[26:47] Speaker 1: of people would say that to my kids to like,
[26:49] Speaker 1: oh my god, you're so much you.
[26:51] Speaker 2: Know, more relaxed than your mother, you know, or whatever
[26:54] Speaker 2: it is.
[26:55] Speaker 1: And I take it as a compliment. Great.
[26:57] Speaker 2: I raise a great child.
[26:59] Speaker 3: So they're they're talking about, you know, whether she wanted
[27:03] Speaker 3: her on the show or not on the show. Do
[27:06] Speaker 3: you think that possibly, like you said, like maybe a
[27:10] Speaker 3: friend roll would be better. Do you think now that
[27:12] Speaker 3: Simy is on the show, that Porsa's doing something off
[27:15] Speaker 3: camera to her No let her know whose boss.
[27:20] Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she's doing that. But I
[27:22] Speaker 1: think Porscha might have said, and not in a mid way,
[27:26] Speaker 1: saying like hey, listen, if you come on the show,
[27:29] Speaker 1: this could really affect our friendship if you're full time.
[27:33] Speaker 2: You know, you know which Porsha is not speaking at
[27:36] Speaker 2: a turn.
[27:37] Speaker 1: You know the way it is. I know the way
[27:38] Speaker 1: it is. You know it's it can cause a problem.
[27:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Sami is.
[27:44] Speaker 1: Just like she really didn't want me to be full time.
[27:46] Speaker 1: And I can understand it because look what happened.
[27:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, how long do you give Melissa and Teresa with
[27:53] Speaker 3: this new Kumbayo?
[27:58] Speaker 1: I think you know they're going to have to stay together.
[28:03] Speaker 1: You knows, it's weird the whole.
[28:06] Speaker 2: It's just like, listen, they're getting along. I'm sure you
[28:08] Speaker 2: know they're trying to make you know, trying to.
[28:10] Speaker 1: Make it work.
[28:12] Speaker 4: Do you think they'll make it all season?
[28:14] Speaker 1: Oh?
[28:14] Speaker 2: I think they'll make it all season.
[28:15] Speaker 1: I think they can make it for one season for sure.
[28:18] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think they can make it
[28:20] Speaker 2: for one season.
[28:21] Speaker 4: We shall see, we shall see.
[28:23] Speaker 2: I can't imagine a fight happening. What are they going
[28:27] Speaker 2: to fight about? They all they have so many new
[28:29] Speaker 2: girls that have to break it out.
[28:30] Speaker 3: You know what I My hope is is that they
[28:32] Speaker 3: do at least touch on it this season, because it
[28:35] Speaker 3: can't be like they were fighting and didn't speak for
[28:38] Speaker 3: years and then they reunite and come back and everything's perfect.
[28:44] Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, I have a very
[28:46] Speaker 1: big theory.
[28:46] Speaker 2: It's like everyone's like, oh, time heels a little wounds,
[28:48] Speaker 2: let's just bury it. That's not the way things get fixed,
[28:51] Speaker 2: you know.
[28:51] Speaker 1: I know that, you know, therapy fixes everything, accountability fixes everything.
[28:57] Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want it to go sour
[28:59] Speaker 1: for I mean, no, they both, you know, because for
[29:03] Speaker 1: the sake of Joe and everything else, and you know,
[29:06] Speaker 1: but well we'll see what happens.
[29:08] Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of well, it'll be entertaining.
[29:18] Speaker 4: So they're going back and forth the table.
[29:20] Speaker 3: Shamiya talks about how Porsha's mom allegedly tried to sleep
[29:25] Speaker 3: with Shemia's dad and Cynthia's like, Shimiya came with one
[29:28] Speaker 3: in the chamber. Would you think that was a little
[29:31] Speaker 3: below the belt or do you think this is something
[29:33] Speaker 3: that the fans that choose.
[29:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she should have said it. I
[29:37] Speaker 2: think that was it. That was it, that is buried
[29:39] Speaker 2: the friendship for good.
[29:42] Speaker 4: There's like no coming back from that.
[29:44] Speaker 1: No, there's no coming back. Shamia shouldn't have said that.
[29:46] Speaker 1: That's where it turned for me. I was like, whoa,
[29:48] Speaker 1: that was not it?
[29:49] Speaker 3: Well, we have to give Porscha credit because she did
[29:52] Speaker 3: not overreact to this.
[29:54] Speaker 4: She did not.
[29:55] Speaker 3: I mean, she called her trash, but other than that,
[29:57] Speaker 3: she didn't raise her voice.
[29:59] Speaker 4: She just kind of laughed it off.
[30:01] Speaker 3: And then Porscha says something along the lines that Samia
[30:08] Speaker 3: is Shamia's mom was sleeping with her husband's brother.
[30:14] Speaker 1: I know, So then she retaliated with that. Yeah, it
[30:18] Speaker 1: just both of them went too far. It was like
[30:20] Speaker 1: it just I did think it was funny when she
[30:23] Speaker 1: goes what was his name?
[30:25] Speaker 4: I know, it's not like yeah, it's not like no,
[30:29] Speaker 4: that never happened, it's like what brother?
[30:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think she wanted to like call her out,
[30:34] Speaker 1: like which brother? If you know so much, then which brother?
[30:36] Speaker 2: You know if?
[30:36] Speaker 3: Like, I wish Porsha wouldn't have done that, because either
[30:40] Speaker 3: she would have been stayed up, you know, elevated, and
[30:44] Speaker 3: now she's kind of at her you know, you know
[30:49] Speaker 3: that's something you say for the reunion.
[30:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, Shemia wanted to her Porsche so badly because listen,
[30:55] Speaker 1: Samia was harboring resentment that Porscha put out that message
[31:00] Speaker 1: about her mother from last reunion.
[31:03] Speaker 2: You know, before last she was you know, harboring.
[31:06] Speaker 1: That, and I think she just couldn't hold back and
[31:10] Speaker 1: she just couldn't take it. But that was unacceptable.
[31:13] Speaker 2: That was unacceptable.
[31:14] Speaker 1: That was just too much.
[31:16] Speaker 4: I'm dying to know what happens next week.
[31:18] Speaker 2: I know, I can't wait.
[31:20] Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly think that Shmiya was trying to
[31:23] Speaker 3: trigger Porsia.
[31:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you just started trigger. She wanted to
[31:27] Speaker 1: bade her into something. It was bad.
[31:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Pinky's over there under her breath. This
[31:33] Speaker 3: sounds like we in Utah.
[31:35] Speaker 1: I know, I know which was That was funny, that
[31:37] Speaker 1: was a great line. At the end, it was bad.
[31:40] Speaker 3: But okay, so this is where Shemiah kind of lost
[31:43] Speaker 3: me me too. She leaves the restaurant. Of course, Kelly
[31:47] Speaker 3: follows her out of the restaurant. She's in tears. She's
[31:51] Speaker 3: saying she wanted to protect Porscha. And I'm like, how
[31:57] Speaker 3: you started this and you said something so low?
[32:00] Speaker 4: How is that protecting Porsche?
[32:02] Speaker 1: I think all up until she's saying, shorm chepter all
[32:05] Speaker 1: up unto this point that she's not said anything that
[32:09] Speaker 1: she you know.
[32:10] Speaker 2: When Porsche came after her mother.
[32:11] Speaker 1: You know, in her head, I'm like being Devil's e good.
[32:14] Speaker 1: In her head, she was protecting her at the reunion,
[32:18] Speaker 1: you know, and since then, it's like she's never said
[32:21] Speaker 1: anything about Porsche, you know, about the mother's situation, about
[32:25] Speaker 1: what we haven't talked at all exactly. So she's acting
[32:28] Speaker 1: like she's never you know, aired any dirty laundry. But
[32:31] Speaker 1: now that Porscha's not talking to her and all these things,
[32:35] Speaker 1: she's going to let every dirty laundry go.
[32:38] Speaker 2: That's it, it's done, it's over.
[32:41] Speaker 1: It's und which is not right, which is one hundred
[32:43] Speaker 1: times worse. I would just be like, for the sake
[32:45] Speaker 1: of the friendship, don't do that, for the sake of
[32:48] Speaker 1: the history, because.
[32:48] Speaker 2: Porsche hasn't done that.
[32:49] Speaker 1: You know, Porsche's acting like a lady hasn't said anything bad,
[32:52] Speaker 1: you know, hasn't done anything.
[32:53] Speaker 2: So it's it's upsetting.
[32:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, in MEA's head, she's just like,
[32:57] Speaker 1: I haven't said anything, I haven't done anything.
[32:59] Speaker 3: And now oh she said a lot, and she said
[33:03] Speaker 3: a lot.
[33:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[33:05] Speaker 3: So at the table, Kate advocates for Shamiya, saying she
[33:07] Speaker 3: doesn't want her to feel ostracized. Cynthia asked Kay if
[33:11] Speaker 3: she can see that Shami has done that to herself.
[33:14] Speaker 4: And that's what I'm.
[33:14] Speaker 3: Sayings the entire time. It's actually this entire season. I
[33:18] Speaker 3: feel like she's putting herself on an island. I feel
[33:21] Speaker 3: like she does have people that are there for her,
[33:23] Speaker 3: but she's pushing them away.
[33:24] Speaker 4: And now this.
[33:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, this was not this was not a good move.
[33:29] Speaker 1: She just but this is really a deep thing between
[33:32] Speaker 1: Portia and Shamia. They have a very deep, deep relationship.
[33:38] Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, she's she put herself in a
[33:41] Speaker 1: bad position there with that situation for sure.
[33:44] Speaker 2: So with Angela's situation, I don't.
[33:46] Speaker 1: Agree with Shemiya, you know, with that Shami did that
[33:49] Speaker 1: to herself. Angela had it in for Shamiya.
[33:52] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think after Angela did that whole thing with.
[33:58] Speaker 4: George sleeping, Yeah.
[34:01] Speaker 3: I feel like that she lost all credibility and now
[34:04] Speaker 3: everybody's thinking, like everything she said in the past is
[34:07] Speaker 3: a lie.
[34:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that's the only thing.
[34:09] Speaker 1: It's just but no one defended Shaminia with that, and
[34:11] Speaker 1: that's the only thing, you know.
[34:13] Speaker 2: So for a while last night I was really feeling
[34:15] Speaker 2: bad for Shamia.
[34:16] Speaker 1: I was like, maybe, you know, she didn't bring that
[34:18] Speaker 1: upon herself. This woman was digging on her and you know,
[34:22] Speaker 1: trying to reak havoc on her a little, and no
[34:24] Speaker 1: one really jumped to her defense. So at that point
[34:27] Speaker 1: I felt bad about her.
[34:28] Speaker 3: Well, she's she's outside, she's crying. She thinks that if
[34:31] Speaker 3: she was a friend of versus a housewife, Porsche.
[34:33] Speaker 4: Would be more accepting of her role on the show.
[34:36] Speaker 3: I know Porscha, and she is a girl's girl, and
[34:40] Speaker 3: that's she's totally.
[34:41] Speaker 1: A girl's girl. And I love her. And she's nothing
[34:43] Speaker 1: but warm whenever I've been with her, and you are
[34:46] Speaker 1: much closer with her than I am, and she's lovely.
[34:48] Speaker 3: Yeah. I did a shoot with her in Mexico City
[34:51] Speaker 3: and she was so kind and just such a girl's girl.
[34:55] Speaker 4: So I just I don't know.
[34:57] Speaker 3: I just don't see her being jealous or mad that
[35:01] Speaker 3: she's on the show. I just, you know, you know
[35:04] Speaker 3: how it goes. You bring a friend on the show
[35:06] Speaker 3: and it's going to be a disaster. Look at Rhode Island.
[35:08] Speaker 4: These girls. If you I don't know, if you've watched.
[35:10] Speaker 3: That franchise, Ship franchise, Oh shit, it's so good, and
[35:13] Speaker 3: it's because the best They have so much history. They've
[35:18] Speaker 3: known each other since they were kids and This is
[35:20] Speaker 3: a lot like Porsche and Shamia. They've known each other
[35:23] Speaker 3: and there's a lot of history. It's like me and
[35:25] Speaker 3: Jen Paedonte. I knew her for quite a few years
[35:28] Speaker 3: before she got on the show, and we weren't on
[35:30] Speaker 3: the best of terms when she got on, So there
[35:32] Speaker 3: was a lot of shit slinging going on there.
[35:35] Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly.
[35:36] Speaker 3: Sometimes that does make for good TV, but if you
[35:40] Speaker 3: want to keep a friendship with somebody, it's hard.
[35:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why maybe Porsche.
[35:45] Speaker 1: All she said was like, this could really hurt us
[35:49] Speaker 1: if you become full time, and that was and there's
[35:51] Speaker 1: nothing wrong with saying.
[35:52] Speaker 4: That, No, nothing at all now because it's true.
[35:56] Speaker 3: Absolutely, And Porscha's like, did you hear what she said
[35:58] Speaker 3: about my mother?
[36:00] Speaker 4: She's not happy.
[36:01] Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been so upset if
[36:04] Speaker 1: someone said that about my mother. Yeah, so, I mean
[36:07] Speaker 1: things were said about my mother. I mean Jenniferydon called
[36:10] Speaker 1: my mother a slut, you know.
[36:12] Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, I mean his mom a slut.
[36:16] Speaker 2: Oh ibe. I could go down a list of the.
[36:18] Speaker 4: I wish my mom was a slut.
[36:21] Speaker 1: You know, it was the seventies.
[36:23] Speaker 3: Everybody was the slug in the seventies.
[36:25] Speaker 4: Yes, come on, I would have been, but I was
[36:27] Speaker 4: two young.
[36:28] Speaker 1: Good times.
[36:31] Speaker 3: Porscha says that she and her mom or like trash
[36:33] Speaker 3: that you put out on Tuesday. We haven't seen Porsche
[36:37] Speaker 3: this activated in a while, and I'm here for it
[36:40] Speaker 3: and I can't wait for the next episode. How do
[36:44] Speaker 3: you think Porsha and Shimiya can move forward from this?
[36:46] Speaker 1: They can't. That's it, it's done. It's over. It is over.
[36:50] Speaker 4: What does that mean for the show?
[36:52] Speaker 1: Like, do they just keep unless like they do a
[36:55] Speaker 1: you know, I you know, Smid is a good housewife,
[36:57] Speaker 1: but you know, Porscha's been there for a long time
[37:00] Speaker 1: and you know, we we've watched her journey through many relationships.
[37:04] Speaker 2: She's an amazing you know house I don't know.
[37:08] Speaker 1: I mean, they have to be forced into therapy.
[37:10] Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen. Maybe the mothers
[37:12] Speaker 2: could make up and bring them together, I know it.
[37:14] Speaker 3: That's that's what we need. We need the moms on
[37:17] Speaker 3: the show. We need them to reunite.
[37:19] Speaker 2: Yes, we need the mothers to reunite.
[37:21] Speaker 4: You know, he needs to bring them to the reunion.
[37:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, the mothers need to like you know, they've been
[37:26] Speaker 1: through it, and maybe the mothers can reunite.
[37:30] Speaker 3: So it ends where you know, Shmi is out there,
[37:32] Speaker 3: she's crying, doesn't understand how this happened yet.
[37:35] Speaker 4: She I mean, she threw a bomb, you know, the
[37:38] Speaker 4: mom and exploded.
[37:40] Speaker 3: Porsia really starts preaching in front of these girls, and
[37:43] Speaker 3: they just all start praising her as if they were
[37:45] Speaker 3: in church. I had to yes, yes, Porsia, Yeah, I
[37:49] Speaker 3: was dying laughing, And that's how That's how it ends,
[37:52] Speaker 3: and we I mean, next week's episode is gonna be
[37:55] Speaker 3: very anticipated because I want to see where this is going.
[37:59] Speaker 3: And I'm mad because why didn't we have this fight
[38:01] Speaker 3: all season long?
[38:02] Speaker 1: I know it took a long time, but it's a
[38:05] Speaker 1: great you know, it was a great cliffhanger last night.
[38:07] Speaker 2: How many more episodes.
[38:08] Speaker 1: Do we have left?
[38:09] Speaker 2: Is next week? This season finale?
[38:11] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[38:11] Speaker 3: I think most shows are doing around seventeen, and they're
[38:15] Speaker 3: at what fourteen right now?
[38:17] Speaker 2: Fourteen, so that we'll be have fifteen I don't know.
[38:20] Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, they'll probably have seventeen episodes because they just
[38:24] Speaker 3: filmed the reunion. I would imagine, Okay, aren't you glad
[38:28] Speaker 3: you don't ever have to film a reunion again.
[38:31] Speaker 2: Yes, I am glad about that.
[38:32] Speaker 1: And I will tell you it was very funny because
[38:35] Speaker 1: I think after being off for so long, for like,
[38:38] Speaker 1: you know, two years or whatever, then I went to
[38:40] Speaker 1: film that other show, but it was just three weeks
[38:42] Speaker 1: and we got eight episodes and I was away for
[38:44] Speaker 1: three weeks.
[38:45] Speaker 2: It was so nice, but it was so weird being back,
[38:47] Speaker 2: you know.
[38:47] Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to go back to
[38:49] Speaker 1: like a full time show for me.
[38:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, after being off and then you like realize
[38:57] Speaker 3: how much your life is just involved in the show
[39:02] Speaker 3: and how.
[39:02] Speaker 4: Much you think about it.
[39:04] Speaker 3: And just because you only filmed three months out of
[39:06] Speaker 3: the year doesn't mean you're done after that.
[39:08] Speaker 1: No, you're You're so caught.
[39:10] Speaker 2: Up everything else.
[39:10] Speaker 1: And I feel like I've I've made time and made
[39:12] Speaker 1: space for the Well, listen, I still love it.
[39:14] Speaker 2: I still you know, I'm still going to want.
[39:16] Speaker 1: To to, you know, do other shows and doing other things.
[39:19] Speaker 1: But I could dip in and dip out, which is good.
[39:21] Speaker 4: Well, you never know, you never know, you map it back,
[39:25] Speaker 4: you just never know. Well, thank you so much, Margaret.
[39:30] Speaker 4: I miss you so much. I wish I could see you,
[39:32] Speaker 4: and you.
[39:32] Speaker 2: Know, we'll have to, you know, I'm going to make
[39:34] Speaker 2: my way to California. It's funny. Joe left for California
[39:37] Speaker 2: this morning. He's the role week. He wanted me to
[39:39] Speaker 2: go with them, but I have too much chegure.
[39:40] Speaker 4: What's he doing here?
[39:41] Speaker 1: He is, you know, he has his medical installation business,
[39:44] Speaker 1: so he's all these dermatology offices. He's putting all these
[39:48] Speaker 1: high end microscopes. He's overseeing everything. So he's out there
[39:51] Speaker 1: where in California Right now, he's in San He's going
[39:55] Speaker 1: to San Jose, but we'll be in Northern LA towards
[39:58] Speaker 1: the end of the week.
[39:59] Speaker 4: But oh good for him. Will I miss you so much?
[40:03] Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see your show in January?
[40:06] Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, it's gonna be good. It's gonna when.
[40:08] Speaker 4: Do you know when the e was it Golden Golden Life?
[40:13] Speaker 1: I thought they might be coming out in September?
[40:15] Speaker 3: Okay, I thought it'll be good. Do you think they'll
[40:18] Speaker 3: be airing the same time New York is erring?
[40:21] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[40:22] Speaker 4: Maybe could you imagine?
[40:24] Speaker 1: I think you know what it is? Those girls just
[40:27] Speaker 1: have just such a natural chemistry, and they're so funny,
[40:29] Speaker 1: and they're so kooky and they're they're just the best.
[40:32] Speaker 2: They really are.
[40:32] Speaker 1: They're funny, they run their they run their own kid.
[40:34] Speaker 1: I was there filming with them and Dan and it's
[40:37] Speaker 1: just like the show rights itself. It's just very funny.
[40:39] Speaker 4: Who else on it? I know they announced it, but
[40:43] Speaker 4: it's like.
[40:44] Speaker 1: Kellya, Ramona luyn Sonya, Kelly ben Simon, Oh my gosh.
[40:52] Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much, thank you miss your death.
[40:56] Speaker 1: I miss you.
[40:57] Speaker 3: And next time I come to New York, we have
[40:59] Speaker 3: to take at dinner for sure, Alores, I love it.
[41:04] Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Thanks
[41:10] Speaker 1: M HM

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