# My Sorority’s Got Issues with Becca Moore

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 12 Sep 2026, 41 min.

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Who’s right, who’s wrong? Sometimes in the sorority it’s a little more sour than sweet. For this well-known influencer, Becca Moore, she had strong opinions about sorority requirements, and was not afraid to voice them. In her attempt to push back at Greek life standards, who came out on top? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with
[0:04] Speaker 1: your hosts, me.
[0:05] Speaker 2: Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
[0:11] Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.
[0:14] Speaker 2: Today, we're joined by.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Becca Moore, who dealt with the downside of sorority rush
[0:18] Speaker 1: and spilled the tea online. From being banned from parties
[0:22] Speaker 1: to getting kicked out, she's been through it all and
[0:25] Speaker 1: she's ready to talk now on Dirty Rush.
[0:27] Speaker 2: So please welcome Becca Moore. Hi, Becca. How are you?
[0:31] Speaker 1: I'm good.
[0:32] Speaker 3: How are you? Thank you for having me.
[0:34] Speaker 2: No, thank you for coming on Dirty Rush. It sounds
[0:36] Speaker 2: like you have quite the story.
[0:38] Speaker 3: Oh, God.
[0:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[0:40] Speaker 3: I mean, I went through a lot with that sorority.
[0:42] Speaker 2: It was crazy. Well, how are you now? How has
[0:46] Speaker 2: life been?
[0:47] Speaker 3: It's been good. I started doing social media full time
[0:51] Speaker 3: like around a year after I graduated from college and
[0:56] Speaker 3: ever since then, it's been pretty good. I'm glad that
[0:58] Speaker 3: I like kept posting because I don't know if you
[1:02] Speaker 3: have a similar experience, but like when you can't really
[1:05] Speaker 3: post a lot in a sorority, you have to like be,
[1:07] Speaker 3: it's like really everything you post is being watched by exec.
[1:12] Speaker 3: So I'm glad that I like was headstrong in that
[1:15] Speaker 3: sense of like posting. I was really like, yeah, I
[1:18] Speaker 3: was in control of my social media the entire time.
[1:20] Speaker 3: Like I didn't want them to tell me what I
[1:22] Speaker 3: could or could not post.
[1:24] Speaker 2: That's interesting.
[1:24] Speaker 1: I mean, I went to Rutgers University in Jersey. So
[1:27] Speaker 1: where did you go to school?
[1:29] Speaker 3: I went to Ohio University in Ohio. It was like
[1:33] Speaker 3: a party school. It was the knockoff of OSU, like
[1:37] Speaker 3: Ohio State.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:39] Speaker 3: And people get those two confused.
[1:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:42] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:42] Speaker 2: So you're Ohio University, different from Ohio State. Got it.
[1:45] Speaker 1: Because I was going to say, my cousin goes to
[1:48] Speaker 1: Ohio State.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Yeah. And I grew up like... really fast going to
[1:52] Speaker 3: the bars, like getting a fake ID and going to
[1:54] Speaker 3: campus because I'm from Columbus. So I definitely had like
[1:58] Speaker 3: the party gene in me. Like we would all have
[2:01] Speaker 3: fake IDs in high school and we were going out
[2:03] Speaker 3: at OSU. But OU is like a huge party school.
[2:08] Speaker 2: Got it. Okay.
[2:09] Speaker 1: So what made you decide on going to Ohio University?
[2:13] Speaker 3: Honestly, I just Googled the party school. I just wanted
[2:18] Speaker 3: to party, I think. And it was kind of like,
[2:21] Speaker 3: the school that like everyone and all the teachers were like,
[2:23] Speaker 3: no one should go to OU because it's like a
[2:25] Speaker 3: party school. You shouldn't, which made me want to go more.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Whenever anyone tells you not to do something, that's literally
[2:31] Speaker 1: the key word to, okay, I'm going to do it.
[2:34] Speaker 3: Exactly.
[2:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:35] Speaker 3: So that's why I went. And then I was like
[2:37] Speaker 3: a communications major because I, it was like the easiest one.
[2:41] Speaker 3: I don't know. I was being lazy.
[2:43] Speaker 1: So what was recruitment like at Ohio? When did you rush?
[2:48] Speaker 1: Did you rush first semester or second semester?
[2:51] Speaker 3: I rushed first semester, and it was... Even at OU,
[2:55] Speaker 3: it was, like, really long and strenuous. I can't even imagine, like,
[2:59] Speaker 3: at a big... Especially, like, the southern schools. I hear it's, like,
[3:02] Speaker 3: really crazy down there. But ours was supposed to be
[3:05] Speaker 3: kind of more relaxed, and yet it was still, like,
[3:07] Speaker 3: really chaotic. And it was, like, a lot of pressure.
[3:12] Speaker 3: I also, like... We didn't really know what sororities were
[3:16] Speaker 3: the best. So, like, it was, like... There wasn't as
[3:20] Speaker 3: much of, like, a culture of, like, everyone has to
[3:22] Speaker 3: rush at OU. But even though there was, like, not
[3:27] Speaker 3: pressure to do it, it was still really intense. Like,
[3:30] Speaker 3: it was, like, a lot of small talk. The days
[3:32] Speaker 3: were so long, and you're talking about things that you
[3:34] Speaker 3: don't care about. And you kind of start realizing, like,
[3:37] Speaker 3: what sororities are, like, cooler than the others. And, yeah,
[3:43] Speaker 3: it was, like, a lot. It's honestly... I going through
[3:47] Speaker 3: that made me like a better version of myself because
[3:50] Speaker 3: I like learn how to talk to anyone. But it
[3:53] Speaker 3: was a lot of pressure to like look cute and everything.
[3:57] Speaker 1: Did you go into recruitment already wanting a specific sorority?
[4:01] Speaker 3: No, like I also it wasn't really normal in my
[4:03] Speaker 3: family to rush. It wasn't like I was like the
[4:08] Speaker 3: first one of all my siblings to want to do
[4:10] Speaker 3: it because I was like researching it on. There was, like,
[4:13] Speaker 3: a website called Total Sorority Move, and I was, like,
[4:16] Speaker 3: looking at all those stories, and I just wanted to, like,
[4:18] Speaker 3: at the time, it was, like, Vineyard Vines was, like,
[4:22] Speaker 3: really cool. Like, wearing Sperry's, like, being preppy was really cool,
[4:24] Speaker 3: and I just kind of wanted to be cool like that. Like,
[4:28] Speaker 3: I wanted, like, the cute, like, Instagram photos and everything,
[4:31] Speaker 3: but it wasn't, like, something that I was expected to do. Also,
[4:36] Speaker 3: I forget what you asked me. I forget what I
[4:38] Speaker 3: was talking about.
[4:39] Speaker 2: Did you know what sorority you wanted when you went
[4:40] Speaker 2: into recruitment? Oh, I don't even know how to comment.
[4:43] Speaker 3: Um no I had no idea until I got like
[4:45] Speaker 3: halfway through I prepped Kayo I really wanted Kayo but
[4:48] Speaker 3: I didn't get that.
[4:49] Speaker 1: One where did Gamma Phi Beta fall into the sorority
[4:53] Speaker 1: hierarchy at Ohio at that time was it considered a
[4:56] Speaker 1: top house or where did it kind of rank.
[4:59] Speaker 3: No so it was actually Gamma Phi's first year on
[5:02] Speaker 3: campus so it was um not like it had no
[5:06] Speaker 3: ranking it was like I was their first one of
[5:09] Speaker 3: their first ever PNM so they had never done Rush
[5:11] Speaker 3: before And the reason that I did it was because
[5:14] Speaker 3: it was that or not a good one, kind of.
[5:21] Speaker 3: Because it was, like, all the girls were, like, trying
[5:24] Speaker 3: to make Gamma Phi cool by starting.
[5:26] Speaker 1: Well, G5 is a great, you know, it's a very
[5:28] Speaker 1: well-known sorority, you know, just in Greek life in general.
[5:33] Speaker 3: On other campuses, maybe, yeah. It was just the first
[5:36] Speaker 3: ever year. So it was, like, a good option. I
[5:38] Speaker 3: really wanted Kaio, but I kind of. um gave up
[5:42] Speaker 3: on that one gamify everyone in my classes was like
[5:45] Speaker 3: the older girls in my classes freshman year were telling
[5:47] Speaker 3: me to do gamify because it was new and we
[5:50] Speaker 3: could like make it cool um but i have heard
[5:53] Speaker 3: and i don't mean to i hope this isn't mean
[5:55] Speaker 3: but i have heard that they kind of like fell
[5:57] Speaker 3: off since i like since we graduated and it did
[6:01] Speaker 3: get like kind of a worse reputation i think they're
[6:04] Speaker 3: they were just really strict because it was like the
[6:05] Speaker 3: first year but no i didn't have a ranking yet
[6:08] Speaker 3: because i was the first um ever Wow.
[6:11] Speaker 2: That's interesting. So what inspired you to rush?
[6:14] Speaker 1: Did you just want to be involved in something on campus?
[6:18] Speaker 3: I just wanted the friends because it's like the easiest way. Also,
[6:21] Speaker 3: we got to like go to school earlier. I think
[6:24] Speaker 3: that we got to like move into our dorms earlier
[6:26] Speaker 3: if we were rushing. And I just thought it would
[6:29] Speaker 3: be like the quickest way to make friends because not
[6:32] Speaker 3: any of my close friends were going to OU. So
[6:34] Speaker 3: I like wanted the girlfriends. And I also, again, like
[6:36] Speaker 3: saw how cute the girls online were that were um,
[6:40] Speaker 3: in sororities. And I just wanted like, honestly, the cute
[6:43] Speaker 3: Instagram photos.
[6:44] Speaker 1: You've also spoken on social media that your sorority actually
[6:48] Speaker 1: made you delete Instagram posts. What was your experience like
[6:52] Speaker 1: with this? I'm actually very interested about this and maybe
[6:56] Speaker 1: it was because it was their first year on campus,
[6:58] Speaker 1: but what, like, what were you posting that they would
[7:02] Speaker 1: make you delete?
[7:03] Speaker 2: Like what type of content?
[7:05] Speaker 3: Well, right from the start, we got in a lot
[7:07] Speaker 3: of trouble. My entire, um, recruiting class we got in
[7:11] Speaker 3: a lot of trouble for having finstas and we were
[7:14] Speaker 3: kind of stupid about it like we all of us
[7:16] Speaker 3: had finstas and we're posting crazy things and my finsta
[7:20] Speaker 3: was literally called becca drinks more so it was like
[7:22] Speaker 3: very easy to and it was a photo of me
[7:24] Speaker 3: it was like stupid i don't know how i didn't
[7:26] Speaker 3: think i would get caught yeah um so we got
[7:28] Speaker 3: like screamed at they like brought us into an emergency
[7:31] Speaker 3: chapter and they're like everyone take out your phone and
[7:34] Speaker 3: show us that you're deleting your finsta so we have
[7:37] Speaker 3: but i secretly kept.
[7:38] Speaker 1: Mine Were your Finstas public or private?
[7:41] Speaker 3: They were private. I don't know how they found them.
[7:44] Speaker 1: But maybe I guess they saw your username, your picture
[7:46] Speaker 1: attached to the profile.
[7:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, like followed by and they could see who was
[7:50] Speaker 3: following it. So they like and the girl cried. I
[7:55] Speaker 3: remember in that meeting, she like started crying as if
[7:57] Speaker 3: it was like a big emotional thing that like we
[8:00] Speaker 3: were all in trouble for having Finstas. So they kind
[8:02] Speaker 3: of scared us with that meeting. I refused to delete
[8:05] Speaker 3: my Finsta and I just changed the name and I
[8:07] Speaker 3: changed the photo, but I still had it. And then
[8:10] Speaker 3: after that, they really cracked down on us. We were
[8:13] Speaker 3: not supposed to be posting with red solo cups or
[8:18] Speaker 3: any alcohol at all.
[8:19] Speaker 1: Were you allowed to post with red solo cups or
[8:21] Speaker 1: alcoholic beverages prior? Yeah.
[8:26] Speaker 3: Before that, if you're not in a sorority, you're just...
[8:29] Speaker 3: like allowed to post whatever you want.
[8:31] Speaker 2: Oh no, of course. But well, the same rules apply
[8:34] Speaker 2: to us as well.
[8:34] Speaker 1: Like when we were, when we were at frat parties
[8:38] Speaker 1: or when we were at any mixers or socials, we
[8:42] Speaker 1: were only allowed to have our drinks in a red
[8:44] Speaker 1: solo cup. Like we weren't ever allowed to hold a,
[8:48] Speaker 1: like a bottle, especially if we were underage.
[8:51] Speaker 2: But then when it came to.
[8:53] Speaker 1: Posting on Instagram, like obviously we really weren't allowed to
[8:58] Speaker 1: advertise that we were drinking. Of course, we could post
[9:01] Speaker 1: photos if we were at frat parties or socials or
[9:04] Speaker 1: anything like that, but we weren't allowed to have a
[9:07] Speaker 1: cup or anything in our hand that would imply that
[9:10] Speaker 1: we were drinking.
[9:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, but we couldn't do that at all. We couldn't
[9:14] Speaker 3: even post. If we were at a frat party, we
[9:16] Speaker 3: couldn't even have the background make it obvious it was
[9:18] Speaker 3: a frat party. And I do think that after they
[9:20] Speaker 3: found our Finstas, keep in mind this was like two
[9:23] Speaker 3: weeks in, they got really strict on the rules because
[9:26] Speaker 3: and we couldn't even have a red solo cup or
[9:28] Speaker 3: be in a bar we couldn't even post that we
[9:31] Speaker 3: were ever in a bar even though we were always
[9:33] Speaker 3: in bars like it was really really annoying and they
[9:35] Speaker 3: were because it was a new chapter and they had
[9:38] Speaker 3: um i can't pan no not panhellenic like the higher
[9:42] Speaker 3: up said gamma phi were like closely in our chapter
[9:46] Speaker 3: because probably nationals yeah nationals yeah they were like always
[9:49] Speaker 3: watching us and trying to like i think scare us
[9:53] Speaker 3: straight in the the beginning so that we weren't posting
[9:56] Speaker 3: at all but they were really really strict on us
[9:58] Speaker 3: and I think that we were like one of if
[10:00] Speaker 3: not the strictest sorority on our campus um based on
[10:05] Speaker 3: like what we could post we couldn't even post like
[10:07] Speaker 3: two quote-unquote like slutty photo like if it if it
[10:10] Speaker 3: was like too much like bikini that was also monitored
[10:13] Speaker 3: by them and like we weren't allowed to post anything
[10:16] Speaker 3: that would make our chapter look bad but it Made
[10:19] Speaker 3: me start hating the chapter because I was like, it's
[10:22] Speaker 3: not fair that the other my friends and other sororities
[10:25] Speaker 3: are allowed to post whatever they want. And like, I'm
[10:28] Speaker 3: always in trouble.
[10:29] Speaker 1: I guess because you guys were under a microscope.
[10:32] Speaker 2: But then, you know, I feel like.
[10:34] Speaker 1: They should have at least been watching what other sororities
[10:38] Speaker 1: were doing so that there wasn't such a distinction between
[10:41] Speaker 1: the two, you know, like there should have been some
[10:43] Speaker 1: sort of like common ground where you guys could have
[10:46] Speaker 1: posted some to not feel like you were restricted of all. Right.
[10:50] Speaker 3: And it, it honestly made a lot of the girls
[10:52] Speaker 3: hate our chapter. A lot of the girls dropped just
[10:56] Speaker 3: because the rules were so strict. And then we had
[10:58] Speaker 3: like a whole week of sober week where we every
[11:02] Speaker 3: semester where we weren't allowed to drink or yeah during
[11:05] Speaker 3: like rushing yeah and they were really strict with us
[11:08] Speaker 3: and we always I was always getting in trouble I
[11:11] Speaker 3: feel like I was kind of the leader and trying
[11:13] Speaker 3: to get people to like not listen to the rules
[11:16] Speaker 3: because I was thinking like if we all just like
[11:18] Speaker 3: don't delete our photos with the red solo cuffs they
[11:20] Speaker 3: can't do anything but no one would listen to me
[11:23] Speaker 3: so they started you because I was I was posting
[11:26] Speaker 3: with alcohol and I didn't even care and then you
[11:28] Speaker 3: would get like a black square like a comment from
[11:31] Speaker 3: exec which meant like you have to take this down
[11:33] Speaker 3: and I just wouldn't take it down. So they started
[11:36] Speaker 3: banning me from social events. Like I couldn't go to
[11:39] Speaker 3: socials or date parties. Um, and I couldn't go to
[11:43] Speaker 3: like any of the fun events. And they, at one
[11:46] Speaker 3: point I started using my photos as like what not
[11:48] Speaker 3: to do in chapter. Like they would put it on
[11:52] Speaker 3: a screen of like, Becca, you should have taken this down.
[11:54] Speaker 3: They like, I was always in trouble. Like I always
[11:57] Speaker 3: had to have an exec meeting, but they wouldn't kick
[11:59] Speaker 3: me out. Um, ever like they just like let me
[12:04] Speaker 3: keep breaking the rules so i it was just annoying
[12:06] Speaker 3: though because i wasn't allowed to vote i wasn't allowed
[12:08] Speaker 3: to go to events or anything but i was um
[12:11] Speaker 3: i had to pay and like do all that stuff.
[12:13] Speaker 1: Were they just punishing you or were they punishing also.
[12:17] Speaker 2: The rest of the girls in your pledge class.
[12:20] Speaker 3: No it was just me because everyone else listened like
[12:22] Speaker 3: everyone else and i also wasn't even the it's annoying
[12:25] Speaker 3: because like the older girls would party with us like
[12:27] Speaker 3: they would take us out to the bars they would
[12:28] Speaker 3: give us shots um But then we were in trouble
[12:32] Speaker 3: if we posted a selfie with them, even though it
[12:36] Speaker 3: was their idea to go out that night.
[12:38] Speaker 1: I'm surprised the older girls didn't get in trouble for
[12:41] Speaker 1: it because when I joined my sorority freshman year, it
[12:46] Speaker 1: was bid day. And you throw your party at your
[12:50] Speaker 1: house and you have fun and you get welcomed home
[12:54] Speaker 1: and it's a big celebration. And the older girls actually
[12:57] Speaker 1: brought me up to their rooms and we were drinking
[13:01] Speaker 1: and they ended up getting in trouble because they were
[13:04] Speaker 1: the older girls in the sorority that should have known better.
[13:07] Speaker 1: And they were influencing the behaviors on like the new
[13:09] Speaker 1: PNMs or the new pledges that just joined the sorority.
[13:14] Speaker 1: So it was like their fault for kind of initiating
[13:18] Speaker 1: that behavior. And then, so yeah, I'm surprised the older
[13:22] Speaker 1: girls didn't also get in trouble for it.
[13:24] Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure they did, but like they would also
[13:27] Speaker 3: punish us. So it wasn't like, I just feel like
[13:30] Speaker 3: they were like really harsh. Like it was the strictest
[13:33] Speaker 3: sorority on campus, I really think. Even though we were
[13:36] Speaker 3: all drinking and it was also hard because it is
[13:38] Speaker 3: a party school. Like OU is like one of the
[13:40] Speaker 3: biggest party schools. And so we were all partying and
[13:44] Speaker 3: it was just like they were punishing us for like
[13:46] Speaker 3: being normal college students. And I do think that the
[13:49] Speaker 3: rumors started spreading that we were like, too strict so
[13:52] Speaker 3: girls didn't want to rush our sorority and I think
[13:54] Speaker 3: that is what ended up making them have a bad reputation.
[13:58] Speaker 1: Kind of fall off what were some other like super
[14:01] Speaker 1: strict rules that they had besides not posting photos while
[14:06] Speaker 1: drinking and maybe not posting like derogatory photos we.
[14:13] Speaker 3: Couldn't have boys in our house ever um which was
[14:17] Speaker 3: really annoying um we couldn't have We couldn't be, like,
[14:21] Speaker 3: up past midnight, like, out of our rooms, I think.
[14:24] Speaker 3: There were, like, really crazy rules. And then during sober week,
[14:27] Speaker 3: we couldn't leave the house at night unless we proved
[14:33] Speaker 3: that we were going to, like, the library or to, like,
[14:35] Speaker 3: a friend's dorm that wasn't drinking. We also had to, like,
[14:40] Speaker 3: go to all these really boring things or else we
[14:42] Speaker 3: would have to pay, like, $ 100. But I think that
[14:44] Speaker 3: is normal in a sorority. You had to go to, like,
[14:46] Speaker 3: chapter every weekend.
[14:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[14:48] Speaker 2: Chapter once a week.
[14:50] Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty standard for boys not to be
[14:52] Speaker 1: allowed in the sorority house because it's, like, forbidden.
[14:54] Speaker 2: Like, no boys were ever allowed.
[14:56] Speaker 1: To sleep over our sorority house, but the frat boys
[14:59] Speaker 1: were allowed to, like, come and eat, like, lunch with
[15:02] Speaker 1: us or dinner or stuff like that.
[15:03] Speaker 3: No, we couldn't even have that. Like, they were, like,
[15:06] Speaker 3: banned from our house completely. I'm trying to think of, like,
[15:09] Speaker 3: what were the crazy rules. Oh, we couldn't do any hazing, like,
[15:14] Speaker 3: at all. Like, no one, if we got hazed or were, like,
[15:18] Speaker 3: hanging out with too many of the older girls too
[15:21] Speaker 3: early on then we were all in trouble because it
[15:23] Speaker 3: seemed like a hazing event it was just like they
[15:26] Speaker 3: were really strict like they didn't want us to drink at.
[15:28] Speaker 1: All so you also shared a passive aggressive hey girly
[15:32] Speaker 1: text that you've gotten when told to delete things is
[15:35] Speaker 1: this better or worse than a straightforward punishment it was
[15:38] Speaker 1: way worse.
[15:39] Speaker 3: Because it was passive aggressive they would like put it
[15:42] Speaker 3: in the group chat and then be like hey I'm
[15:45] Speaker 3: just wondering if you'll delete this and then I'm when
[15:50] Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, no, I'm not gonna delete it, then
[15:52] Speaker 3: they were, like, okay, well, then, if you don't do that,
[15:56] Speaker 3: then you might not be able to go to the social,
[15:59] Speaker 3: and I was, like, okay, obviously, I just won't go
[16:02] Speaker 3: to the social, and I, like, don't want to hang
[16:04] Speaker 3: out with you guys anyway, um, because I was, like,
[16:06] Speaker 3: at that point, like, annoyed with the exec, and then they, like,
[16:10] Speaker 3: would pretend to be my friend in front of my face,
[16:12] Speaker 3: and then I heard behind my back they were, like,
[16:15] Speaker 3: really complaining about it, but I wish that they were just, like, Dude,
[16:18] Speaker 3: you literally have to delete that. I just felt like
[16:20] Speaker 3: it was a culture of being kind of fake because
[16:23] Speaker 3: they thought I was funny. And then behind my back,
[16:26] Speaker 3: they were really annoyed with me. They would pretend to
[16:29] Speaker 3: be my friend. Yeah.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Taking the devil's advocate, if you were in the shoes
[16:34] Speaker 1: of the standards board, in what circumstances would you make
[16:37] Speaker 1: a member delete something?
[16:38] Speaker 3: I think I would only... Also, like, they, by the way,
[16:43] Speaker 3: I will say, because I've graduated, I feel like they
[16:46] Speaker 3: had every right to, like, do, I, like, don't care
[16:48] Speaker 3: about this anymore. I'm, like, whatever. Like, I shouldn't have
[16:50] Speaker 3: been drinking underage anyway. But, like, I do think that
[16:54] Speaker 3: the only time I would make someone delete something is
[16:58] Speaker 3: if it was, like, a naked photo. I feel like
[17:01] Speaker 3: I just don't, it's not like I was posting that
[17:03] Speaker 3: bad or, like, anything too scandalous. So I think I
[17:08] Speaker 3: would not ever tell someone to delete something because I
[17:10] Speaker 3: wouldn't care. I just feel like I couldn't believe that
[17:12] Speaker 3: they cared about it so much. I was like, oh
[17:14] Speaker 3: my God, let me live.
[17:15] Speaker 2: I get it.
[17:16] Speaker 1: And it's annoying, especially when you're in college, you want
[17:19] Speaker 1: to live your life, express your personality, be who you are.
[17:22] Speaker 1: I think it's just a pretty standard rule across all
[17:25] Speaker 1: sororities that you just shouldn't advertise that you're drinking.
[17:28] Speaker 2: I will say, not being able to post.
[17:33] Speaker 1: at a bar that you're at with your friends or,
[17:35] Speaker 1: you know, maybe if you're underage, I understand because maybe
[17:38] Speaker 1: they don't want to like advertise it that.
[17:40] Speaker 2: You're at a bar underage.
[17:42] Speaker 1: But I mean, even posting at like frat parties or
[17:45] Speaker 1: socials that your sorority is planning with other fraternities, I
[17:49] Speaker 1: feel like that should be fine as long as there's
[17:52] Speaker 1: like nothing in the background or no drinking involved, like
[17:55] Speaker 1: no drinking in your hands or anything. But I feel
[17:58] Speaker 1: like that's like a pretty standard rule like all across society.
[18:02] Speaker 2: Like sororities.
[18:03] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:03] Speaker 3: And I think that's why I maybe just shouldn't have
[18:05] Speaker 3: rushed because like I hated it. I hated all the rules.
[18:08] Speaker 3: I literally couldn't do it. I also do, I will say,
[18:11] Speaker 3: my first week we had like a party, like an
[18:15] Speaker 3: underground party.
[18:16] Speaker 2: I feel like you just didn't like being told what
[18:18] Speaker 2: to do.
[18:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:19] Speaker 3: I didn't like being told what to do. So I
[18:20] Speaker 3: wasn't going to be like a good sorority sister, but
[18:22] Speaker 3: I do think that they were harsh on me because
[18:24] Speaker 3: the first week I was like flirting with this guy
[18:28] Speaker 3: I didn't know any of the older sisters or really anyone.
[18:30] Speaker 1: Oh my god that's a bit Becca that is a
[18:32] Speaker 1: huge no-no I already know where you're going with.
[18:34] Speaker 3: This yeah I was flirting with this guy but it was.
[18:37] Speaker 1: Probably a guy that one of your sorority sisters were
[18:40] Speaker 1: talking to.
[18:41] Speaker 3: Yeah it was one I'm not kidding yeah it was
[18:43] Speaker 3: like one of the exec girls I guess ex-situationship or
[18:47] Speaker 3: something but I didn't know her I didn't know.
[18:49] Speaker 1: This it's hard When you're a freshman and you start
[18:53] Speaker 1: going out and you start talking to guys, God forbid
[18:56] Speaker 1: you talk to one of your sorority sister's ex-boyfriends or
[19:00] Speaker 1: someone that they're talking to, they will literally scrutinize you
[19:03] Speaker 1: till the day, like, I don't know, they will make
[19:05] Speaker 1: you remember the day. And it's so hard because when
[19:07] Speaker 1: you enter your sorority as a freshman, it's so hard
[19:10] Speaker 1: to actually know every single person that's in your sorority
[19:13] Speaker 1: right off the bat and let alone.
[19:15] Speaker 2: Know who they've talked to in the past.
[19:17] Speaker 3: It was like a year before I hadn't even gotten
[19:19] Speaker 3: there and I didn't know. And so a girl came
[19:22] Speaker 3: up to me and she was like, as a sister,
[19:25] Speaker 3: I do think that you need to stop talking to
[19:27] Speaker 3: that guy. I don't know his name, like Mason or something.
[19:30] Speaker 3: You need to stop talking to Mason. And because as
[19:32] Speaker 3: a sister, would you want your sister to be talking
[19:35] Speaker 3: to your ex? And I was like, oh my God, no,
[19:37] Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. And I immediately was like, but even,
[19:39] Speaker 3: but now I'm looking back and I'm like, I didn't
[19:42] Speaker 3: know them. I didn't know this girl.
[19:43] Speaker 1: I didn't know they make it such a big deal
[19:45] Speaker 1: it's like it's like the worst thing in the.
[19:47] Speaker 3: World and that was the girl who was in charge
[19:51] Speaker 3: of the social so I think that's why I hated
[19:54] Speaker 3: the rules because I was like oh my god it's
[19:56] Speaker 3: because I didn't even kiss him and I like ignored
[19:58] Speaker 3: him after that I like walked away from him but
[20:01] Speaker 3: even just him being interested in me for that like
[20:03] Speaker 3: 10 minutes that we were talking for the rest of
[20:06] Speaker 3: my life in my sorority they were like punishing me
[20:09] Speaker 3: the entire time because I could not get over it
[20:10] Speaker 3: and I was like I don't like that I don't
[20:12] Speaker 3: even know that guy I never talked to that guy
[20:15] Speaker 3: and I felt like I was getting like punished for
[20:17] Speaker 3: that for the rest of my time there.
[20:34] Speaker 1: You tried to start a revolution against the black square
[20:36] Speaker 1: rule and convince other girls not to delete their posts
[20:40] Speaker 1: as well. Did that ever get back to standards and
[20:42] Speaker 1: did it make things worse for you? Yes.
[20:46] Speaker 3: Yes. And yeah, it definitely did.
[20:48] Speaker 2: All around made things so much worse.
[20:51] Speaker 3: I cannot believe they kept me for the whole four years.
[20:54] Speaker 3: I ended up... I ended up getting like pressure to
[20:57] Speaker 3: be kicked out my senior year, but I lived in
[20:59] Speaker 3: the house.
[21:00] Speaker 2: At this point though, why didn't you just want to leave?
[21:02] Speaker 3: Because I didn't know I could because I owed them
[21:04] Speaker 3: a lot of money. Like I never would pay. I
[21:06] Speaker 3: was so poor. So I thought that if I, you
[21:09] Speaker 3: can't leave unless you like pay all your debts. So
[21:12] Speaker 3: I was like, I can't, I literally am stuck in
[21:14] Speaker 3: this sorority because I thought contractually I could not leave
[21:17] Speaker 3: because I couldn't pay. But by the way, I'm kind
[21:21] Speaker 3: of starting to think I'm like in the wrong when
[21:23] Speaker 3: I'm retelling a story. I never paid one time. Like
[21:26] Speaker 3: I never paid my dues ever.
[21:28] Speaker 2: Oh, and nothing ever happened?
[21:30] Speaker 3: Nothing ever happened. And I talked to another, well, I'm
[21:32] Speaker 3: scared they're going to like send me to collections or something.
[21:34] Speaker 3: I don't know. It's never happened. But I talked to
[21:37] Speaker 3: another girl who had the same thing. She never paid
[21:40] Speaker 3: and nothing's happened to us. So I don't know why
[21:43] Speaker 3: they even kept me.
[21:44] Speaker 1: So nationals run sororities all over the US and they
[21:48] Speaker 1: need money in order to keep up with the chapters
[21:50] Speaker 1: at each school. So like with that being said, like
[21:53] Speaker 1: each school has a budget. So I'm really shocked that
[21:55] Speaker 1: you got away with it and didn't have to pay anything.
[21:58] Speaker 2: I would totally think.
[21:59] Speaker 1: That nationals would honestly contact you post-grad and ask for
[22:06] Speaker 1: your dues.
[22:07] Speaker 3: My sorority lost their house. So, but there's still somehow
[22:10] Speaker 3: a thing now. I don't know how. But not enough
[22:13] Speaker 3: girls wanted to live in the house. And I was
[22:16] Speaker 3: living in the house for two years. I lived there.
[22:19] Speaker 1: Well, usually now sororities make it mandatory. If you join,
[22:25] Speaker 1: you need to live in the house at least one year.
[22:27] Speaker 1: And a lot of girls typically do it their junior year.
[22:30] Speaker 3: I did it sophomore and junior and it was really
[22:33] Speaker 3: actually randomly really fun. And that was the time that
[22:36] Speaker 3: I loved being in a sorority.
[22:37] Speaker 1: Okay, this is the first good thing I've heard you
[22:39] Speaker 1: say about your sorority. I know.
[22:41] Speaker 3: That was like the fun time because it was like
[22:44] Speaker 3: every morning you wake up and there are like 30
[22:46] Speaker 3: girls around you all the time. And I loved like
[22:49] Speaker 3: mealtime and every breakfast I would be like, guess what
[22:52] Speaker 3: I did last night? And I was really like the
[22:54] Speaker 3: chaotic girl there. But I do looking back, I'm like,
[22:58] Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the years that I lived in the house.
[23:00] Speaker 3: And I actually am randomly really glad that I was
[23:03] Speaker 3: in a sorority because of the social skills I learned,
[23:06] Speaker 3: like having to go through recruit, like be on the
[23:08] Speaker 3: other side of recruitment and recruit girls. You're talking all
[23:14] Speaker 3: day long for like hours and hours. And it taught
[23:16] Speaker 3: me how to talk to people, honestly. And living in
[23:20] Speaker 3: the house is really fun. But I do think that
[23:23] Speaker 3: I'm not, maybe I was like meant to be in
[23:25] Speaker 3: a sorority that was a little bit more of a party.
[23:28] Speaker 3: Back then, all I cared about was partying. So for
[23:31] Speaker 3: me to be in the strictest sorority was not going
[23:34] Speaker 3: to work for me. But I've stayed my whole four years.
[23:37] Speaker 3: I dropped my freshman semester of my senior year when
[23:41] Speaker 3: I realized I could leave.
[23:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[23:44] Speaker 1: You've talked about being banned from sorority parties and then
[23:47] Speaker 1: trying to create a ban against the exec board before
[23:51] Speaker 1: ultimately getting kicked out.
[23:52] Speaker 2: Tell us what happened there.
[23:54] Speaker 3: So my senior year, I like wanted to go to
[23:58] Speaker 3: this date party and they were telling me I couldn't go,
[24:01] Speaker 3: I think, or I think it was like formal. It
[24:03] Speaker 3: was like, oh yeah, it was formal. It was like
[24:04] Speaker 3: a big trip that they were going to. And I
[24:06] Speaker 3: wasn't allowed to go because of my like tension with
[24:11] Speaker 3: existing back. I think like in me just trying to
[24:13] Speaker 3: start a revolution at breakfast all the time, God forbid
[24:17] Speaker 3: I would every morning at breakfast, I would always be like,
[24:19] Speaker 3: if we just don't take our photos down. Or if
[24:22] Speaker 3: we just like skip sober, we can like go out.
[24:25] Speaker 3: If all of us do it, then what are they
[24:27] Speaker 3: going to do? But because I was like anti the rules,
[24:31] Speaker 3: they ended up putting me on the blocked list or
[24:35] Speaker 3: like blacklist from, yeah, I was blacklisted from going to formal.
[24:38] Speaker 3: So I tried to fight it by being like, I
[24:41] Speaker 3: don't care about the rules. Exec is fake. This whole
[24:43] Speaker 3: thing is fake. Like, I don't even care. Like, what
[24:45] Speaker 3: are you guys going to do? And when I did that,
[24:48] Speaker 3: I had, I'm pretty sure they like called me in
[24:50] Speaker 3: to have an exec meeting and to like kick me
[24:52] Speaker 3: out essentially because I was really trying to start a
[24:54] Speaker 3: revolution and that's when I was like well if they
[24:58] Speaker 3: kick me out then I'll just drop so I just
[25:00] Speaker 3: showed up and I was like I'm just dropping them
[25:02] Speaker 3: so I technically I was like pressured to drop but
[25:06] Speaker 3: I did end up being the one that did it
[25:08] Speaker 3: at least you.
[25:09] Speaker 1: Got out I mean the fact that you thought you
[25:12] Speaker 1: couldn't get out and then you did pretty that's pretty good.
[25:16] Speaker 3: I know did you stay in your like your full
[25:18] Speaker 3: four years I.
[25:19] Speaker 1: Did I mean, I could have left. I definitely wasn't
[25:25] Speaker 1: a raw, raw sorority girl. But I did have fun.
[25:32] Speaker 1: I loved going to the date parties and the formals.
[25:35] Speaker 1: And so I get why you were annoyed there because
[25:37] Speaker 1: it's your senior year.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Those honestly were the most... I felt like I had
[25:43] Speaker 2: the most fun going to my formals and date parties.
[25:45] Speaker 1: So... The senior year, we had so many of them
[25:48] Speaker 1: because that was our time where it's like, let's have
[25:50] Speaker 1: as many as we can because we're about to graduate.
[25:52] Speaker 2: And that was the time where we had the most fun.
[25:56] Speaker 1: So that's kind of why I stayed in Greek life, honestly,
[26:00] Speaker 1: as long as I did.
[26:01] Speaker 2: It was for the formals and the day parties.
[26:04] Speaker 1: It wasn't even more so for anything else because at
[26:07] Speaker 1: that point, especially my junior and senior year, I Like
[26:11] Speaker 1: I had my friends. I knew everyone in Greek life.
[26:14] Speaker 1: We could kind of go to whatever fraternities or mixers
[26:16] Speaker 1: or socials that we wanted to. So it really was
[26:20] Speaker 1: just to be a part of those formals and date
[26:22] Speaker 1: nights that felt a little more intimate and close and
[26:25] Speaker 1: just kind of have that time with, you know, your
[26:28] Speaker 1: date and your friends.
[26:29] Speaker 2: And that's why I stayed.
[26:31] Speaker 3: Yeah. So imagine not having that. I would like hated it.
[26:34] Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would.
[26:35] Speaker 1: I would hate it, too, because that was like one
[26:37] Speaker 1: of the main reasons why I stayed, especially as I
[26:39] Speaker 1: got older. Listen, when I was younger, it was great
[26:42] Speaker 1: because freshman year, it gave me a time to just
[26:44] Speaker 1: like meet my girlfriend, socialize, make friends.
[26:47] Speaker 2: And it was awesome. It introduced me to like so
[26:49] Speaker 2: many people in Greek life.
[26:51] Speaker 1: And then, you know, as the years went on, I
[26:54] Speaker 1: definitely probably could have left.
[26:57] Speaker 2: And not stayed as long as I did.
[27:00] Speaker 1: But I did because I just enjoyed like the other
[27:03] Speaker 1: things that came along with it. So if it was
[27:06] Speaker 1: taken away from me, I don't think I would have
[27:08] Speaker 1: stayed either.
[27:10] Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. And I'm so happy that I was like
[27:13] Speaker 3: headstrong in that sense of like, not, I feel like
[27:15] Speaker 3: it like set me up to not care, like not
[27:18] Speaker 3: let anyone boss me around. I remember like I took
[27:21] Speaker 3: a job for as a recruiter after college, I graduated
[27:25] Speaker 3: during COVID. So there were not like many jobs and
[27:29] Speaker 3: I got a job and they told me I couldn't
[27:31] Speaker 3: post basically anything. And at that point I had kind
[27:35] Speaker 3: of gotten some followers and, Because Barstool Smoke, I don't
[27:38] Speaker 3: know if you know what Barstool Smoke Shows is.
[27:40] Speaker 2: They like posted a photo of me. I know what
[27:42] Speaker 2: Barstool is.
[27:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, they posted a photo of me and I got
[27:44] Speaker 3: like 4,000 followers. And then the job that I took
[27:48] Speaker 3: said that I couldn't be like a public Instagram and
[27:50] Speaker 3: I had to take down bikini phone. I couldn't post
[27:52] Speaker 3: in bikinis. And then I ended up not taking that job.
[27:55] Speaker 3: I was like, fine, I'll just bartend because I don't
[27:58] Speaker 3: want people to be in charge of my social media.
[28:00] Speaker 1: It was like what you were running away from, but
[28:02] Speaker 1: then it kind of came back around again. Yeah.
[28:05] Speaker 3: And then I like, but honestly, it, me being like
[28:08] Speaker 3: a rebellion in that sense ended up giving me like
[28:10] Speaker 3: my job in social media because I was so protective
[28:13] Speaker 3: over like posting whatever I wanted to post. So even
[28:16] Speaker 3: though I was just kind of probably like annoying to
[28:20] Speaker 3: exec and everything, they kind of like made me, I
[28:23] Speaker 3: don't know, made me like stronger, like more, I stood
[28:26] Speaker 3: up for myself more after that.
[28:27] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[28:28] Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Becca, I'm going to fully be devil's
[28:29] Speaker 2: advocate here.
[28:30] Speaker 1: Like you definitely were doing things that like a normal sorority,
[28:34] Speaker 1: like exec, like You know, normal sororities on the exec
[28:39] Speaker 1: team probably would not stand for. And I understand maybe
[28:42] Speaker 1: why your execs were annoyed with you and why you
[28:45] Speaker 1: were brought into standards and little things like that and
[28:48] Speaker 1: get things taken away from you. Because if you did something,
[28:50] Speaker 1: then you can't go to the social. Or if you
[28:52] Speaker 1: did this, then you have to be a sober monitor.
[28:54] Speaker 1: I totally understand where they were maybe coming from.
[29:00] Speaker 2: But then I understand your perspective too.
[29:02] Speaker 3: Maybe....
[29:05] Speaker 1: Maybe sorority life just wasn't for you and you gave
[29:08] Speaker 1: it your all, you know, you gave it a go
[29:11] Speaker 1: and now it brought you to where you are today
[29:14] Speaker 1: because all the rules that you were given, clearly you
[29:18] Speaker 1: didn't like to follow them and you wanted like your
[29:20] Speaker 1: own way and your own path.
[29:22] Speaker 2: And I mean, that's.
[29:24] Speaker 1: Something to admire at the same time because now it
[29:26] Speaker 1: made you find what you love.
[29:28] Speaker 3: So I know, I know, but I did feel like
[29:31] Speaker 3: a bad, girl like I felt like the black sheep
[29:34] Speaker 3: of the sorority like I was definitely the troublemaker yeah
[29:37] Speaker 3: but yeah I do think looking back when I'm retelling
[29:40] Speaker 3: the stories, I'm like, yeah, they kind of had a point.
[29:42] Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it was just annoying. I just
[29:46] Speaker 3: didn't like it.
[29:47] Speaker 1: I mean, at that time, I mean, you're also looking
[29:49] Speaker 1: back at it now. You're older, you're more mature, like
[29:52] Speaker 1: you're not the same person that you were in college.
[29:54] Speaker 1: So looking back, you're like, okay, yeah, I was probably
[29:57] Speaker 1: a pain in the ass, but now I'm a lot better.
[30:01] Speaker 3: Yeah. I shouldn't have definitely been in the strictest story
[30:03] Speaker 3: because even when you're 21, you couldn't post alcohol. That's crazy. Oh,
[30:08] Speaker 3: my God. It was insane.
[30:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
[30:10] Speaker 1: I mean, that makes no sense. They should have no
[30:13] Speaker 1: say when you're over 21.
[30:15] Speaker 3: I don't know how anyone is in that. I'm like,
[30:17] Speaker 3: I wonder if it's the same or if they were
[30:19] Speaker 3: really strict because it was the first four years for them.
[30:22] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[30:22] Speaker 1: Yeah. You said your social chair made you the designated
[30:39] Speaker 1: sober sister after you gave her situationship your number. Did
[30:43] Speaker 1: you have to do it for every event? And did
[30:45] Speaker 1: that make you question staying in the sorority?
[30:48] Speaker 3: The annoying part about it is that it was supposed
[30:51] Speaker 3: to be random who they chose as a sober monitor
[30:55] Speaker 3: every time. And it was always me. They say it's random.
[31:01] Speaker 3: Because the girl hated me. She was in charge of
[31:04] Speaker 3: the social media stuff and the sober monitor thing. And
[31:07] Speaker 3: I can't remember her name, but I'm still pissed at
[31:09] Speaker 3: her because she would always make me the sober sister.
[31:11] Speaker 3: So I would bring a water bottle.
[31:12] Speaker 1: So for like a whole semester, you were basically, well,
[31:15] Speaker 1: I guess a year probably.
[31:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[31:18] Speaker 3: Until she was not that position anymore. Yeah.
[31:21] Speaker 2: It's like a year.
[31:22] Speaker 1: Because I think they, if I'm wrong, I think they re-up,
[31:25] Speaker 1: they do it in like spring and you have to
[31:30] Speaker 1: your term is up the next spring when they vote again.
[31:33] Speaker 3: Yes. And most of the time, but then I started
[31:36] Speaker 3: just getting banned from the events because I was posting.
[31:38] Speaker 3: So like, it didn't even matter after that. But the
[31:40] Speaker 3: first few events, I was randomly chosen as one of
[31:43] Speaker 3: the two sober monitors. So then I started really hating
[31:47] Speaker 3: her a lot. And that's why I tried to start
[31:49] Speaker 3: a rebellion. But I would just bring a water bottle
[31:51] Speaker 3: of vodka into the whatever event it was, and then
[31:55] Speaker 3: just get even drunker. So like I didn't even care
[31:57] Speaker 3: because I was just like, I hate you. So I'm
[31:59] Speaker 3: going to drink. And I was like the worst sober monitor.
[32:02] Speaker 3: But I don't think they ever got me in trouble
[32:04] Speaker 3: for that.
[32:05] Speaker 2: Well, that's good.
[32:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:07] Speaker 1: There's always those funny stories of when the sober monitor
[32:10] Speaker 1: gets the most drunk out of everyone in the party
[32:12] Speaker 1: and then like throws up on the bus on the
[32:13] Speaker 1: way home.
[32:14] Speaker 3: Exactly. I think I did like puke in the bathroom
[32:17] Speaker 3: or something. But like if you're I think it was
[32:19] Speaker 3: just the rebellion thing. Like if you're going to tell
[32:21] Speaker 3: me what not to do, then I'm going to do it.
[32:23] Speaker 3: So back then I was like crazy.
[32:26] Speaker 1: First semester of your senior year, when you decided to
[32:29] Speaker 1: drop your sorority, were you still able to go out
[32:32] Speaker 1: and be a part of the social scene with Greek life?
[32:35] Speaker 2: Or did you kind of just do your own thing?
[32:37] Speaker 3: I had already had my friends by that point that
[32:40] Speaker 3: weren't in my sorority. So I convinced my best friend
[32:43] Speaker 3: who was my roommate to drop with me in solidarity.
[32:48] Speaker 3: So when we dropped together, we were like, I remember
[32:51] Speaker 3: the day that we dropped, it was like the happiest
[32:54] Speaker 3: day of our life. Like we were like running out
[32:57] Speaker 3: of the house, like screaming. We were so happy. And
[32:59] Speaker 3: then we immediately went to the bar and posted with alcohol.
[33:03] Speaker 2: That's, that's like a big F you like, Hey, I'm out.
[33:08] Speaker 3: I was like, I don't even care. Black square. Like
[33:09] Speaker 3: you can black square this, but yeah, we like, I
[33:13] Speaker 3: ended up having friends that weren't even in Greek life.
[33:15] Speaker 3: And like, also I kind of resented the entire sorority
[33:17] Speaker 3: because no one really like listened to me. And I
[33:20] Speaker 3: also randomly had a crush on my big, The entire time.
[33:24] Speaker 3: So she, I made her drop with me too. She
[33:27] Speaker 3: had already, or no, she had already, because she was
[33:28] Speaker 3: a fifth year. And I think that the three of
[33:31] Speaker 3: us just became like a trio and we like ran
[33:33] Speaker 3: around campus hating our sorority.
[33:36] Speaker 1: Did any of your sorority sisters turn on you or
[33:38] Speaker 1: treat you differently once you left?
[33:42] Speaker 3: I would not have even cared or noticed because I
[33:44] Speaker 3: like just stopped hanging out with them. The only people
[33:46] Speaker 3: I hung out with were like people not in my
[33:48] Speaker 3: sorority or like my big, who I was like in
[33:50] Speaker 3: love with and then my best friend. So I, and
[33:53] Speaker 3: I also like at that point was like really doing
[33:56] Speaker 3: my own thing. And I really was embarrassed that I
[33:58] Speaker 3: was even in a sorority at all. So I was
[34:01] Speaker 3: just really anti. So I didn't care if they didn't
[34:04] Speaker 3: like me.
[34:04] Speaker 1: Looking back on it now, do you think you joined
[34:06] Speaker 1: the wrong sorority or do you think sorority life in
[34:09] Speaker 1: general just wasn't the right fit for you?
[34:12] Speaker 3: I think I joined the wrong sorority because I think
[34:14] Speaker 3: if I was in, I just was watching my friends
[34:17] Speaker 3: in really fun ones. Like there was Fuzzy on campus
[34:20] Speaker 3: at the time, Alpha Z. I remember that was like,
[34:23] Speaker 3: ended up being like the really cool one because they
[34:25] Speaker 3: were like the party girls and they had no rules
[34:27] Speaker 3: they could do whatever they wanted and they could have
[34:29] Speaker 3: boys over and they could like go to frat parties
[34:31] Speaker 3: and post it and like they were always hanging out
[34:35] Speaker 3: with the older girls in the sorority and drinking with
[34:36] Speaker 3: them and I think that they did like hazing things
[34:38] Speaker 3: but in a fun way so I think if I
[34:41] Speaker 3: had ended up joining fuzzy or something I would have
[34:44] Speaker 3: like loved it and I think I would have followed
[34:46] Speaker 3: the rules more if I didn't have that terrible experience
[34:49] Speaker 3: with the girl that was like punishing me forever for
[34:52] Speaker 3: giving this guy my number um I think that just
[34:56] Speaker 3: set me up to like hate everyone in my sorority
[34:58] Speaker 3: kind of except for like my close friends so yeah
[35:01] Speaker 3: I think I wish I joined a different one but
[35:03] Speaker 3: I didn't know how much I didn't know which sororities
[35:07] Speaker 3: were the I should have like researched it like I
[35:09] Speaker 3: think I did it wrong during recruitment by like ranking
[35:13] Speaker 3: them wrong like I should have I just didn't know
[35:16] Speaker 3: enough yet I have a lot of.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Regrets No, I mean, you love and you learn and
[35:21] Speaker 1: it brought you to where you are today. And now
[35:23] Speaker 1: you have girls telling you that your story inspired them
[35:29] Speaker 1: to leave their sorority while you also have other girls
[35:32] Speaker 1: saying that you inspired them to rush. What is it
[35:36] Speaker 1: like knowing that your experience has impacted people in such
[35:39] Speaker 1: different ways?
[35:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, I do still get DMs from people telling me
[35:44] Speaker 3: that and I always cannot believe it. I'm like, oh
[35:46] Speaker 3: my God, that's so insane. I honestly think that if
[35:49] Speaker 3: anyone wants to rush, they should. Like, I think that
[35:52] Speaker 3: it really did. Obviously, I was like the bad kid
[35:56] Speaker 3: in mine, but I had so much fun living in
[36:00] Speaker 3: the house with those girls. And it also teaches you
[36:02] Speaker 3: a lot about like social skill. You have to talk
[36:07] Speaker 3: so much. It's just a really good life experience. I'm
[36:10] Speaker 3: grateful that I did it, even though I sound like
[36:12] Speaker 3: I'm not. It honestly made me like a smarter person.
[36:16] Speaker 3: And it also gave me the like bravery to like
[36:19] Speaker 3: not take that job because I had just like imagine
[36:22] Speaker 3: when you're a freshman standing up to like older girls
[36:25] Speaker 3: that are you're scared of I feel like that made
[36:29] Speaker 3: me like more confident so the entire experience that made
[36:32] Speaker 3: me realize that like people in power over you don't
[36:35] Speaker 3: really have that much power because I kept not listening
[36:38] Speaker 3: to them and I was fine like no one can
[36:41] Speaker 3: like hurt you if you don't listen to rules so
[36:44] Speaker 3: yeah I would say that I am glad that it
[36:47] Speaker 3: like encourage people to either leave if they hate their
[36:50] Speaker 3: sorority because life is better on the other side if
[36:52] Speaker 3: you hate it. But also I do think that it's
[36:55] Speaker 3: also fun. The whole thing was kind of fun because
[36:57] Speaker 3: it isn't like serious. Like it's not like anything was
[37:01] Speaker 3: life or death or like, you know, it was just
[37:03] Speaker 3: it was a funny, fun anecdote that I have forever.
[37:07] Speaker 3: And so I think that girls should, like, I'm not
[37:09] Speaker 3: here to, like, tell girls not to because it was fun.
[37:11] Speaker 1: So you were just on Unwell Summer Games. How was
[37:14] Speaker 1: it filming that experience? And did that feel anything like
[37:17] Speaker 1: being in a sorority house?
[37:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely. Because you're, like, living, we were, like,
[37:23] Speaker 3: living in Canada with people that we didn't really know.
[37:28] Speaker 3: I didn't really know the girls. And it was really, like,
[37:31] Speaker 3: scary because I was, like, they're so pretty and, like, cool.
[37:35] Speaker 3: And I was, like, intimidated.
[37:36] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:37] Speaker 3: But then once you get to know the girls, they become, like,
[37:40] Speaker 3: your besties. And it's just, like, a reminder to, like,
[37:43] Speaker 3: remember that everyone's human and girls, just because they're, like,
[37:46] Speaker 3: really hot and cool, it doesn't mean that they don't
[37:48] Speaker 3: want to be your friend. But, yeah, it was, like,
[37:50] Speaker 3: a lot of, like, I was so scared because I
[37:52] Speaker 3: was scared the girls would be mean. And there was
[37:55] Speaker 3: a lot of drama. But luckily, my drama was only
[37:58] Speaker 3: with the guys and not with any of the girls.
[38:00] Speaker 3: But there were, like, some girls fighting.
[38:02] Speaker 1: What advice would you give a girl going through recruitment
[38:05] Speaker 1: right now who's devastated because her favorite house dropped her?
[38:09] Speaker 3: Oh, my God. No, it won't matter at all. It's
[38:14] Speaker 3: fine because even though I was in one that I
[38:17] Speaker 3: wish I wasn't in, all sororities boil down to you're
[38:21] Speaker 3: going to have fun. Even if it's the bottom to
[38:23] Speaker 3: your house, you're still going to find cool girls in
[38:26] Speaker 3: every house. And I remember like I wanted to be
[38:28] Speaker 3: in Cayo, but like now I don't even think about that.
[38:31] Speaker 3: Like then Fuzzy ended up being the one that I
[38:33] Speaker 3: wanted to be in. But even though I hated my sorority,
[38:36] Speaker 3: I still made a lot of friends. So I don't
[38:38] Speaker 3: think it mattered. I don't think which house you're actually
[38:41] Speaker 3: in ever matters.
[38:42] Speaker 1: You end up figuring it out and you find your
[38:44] Speaker 1: people as you go throughout college.
[38:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have been in any sorority and had fun, honestly,
[38:50] Speaker 3: because there's normal girls in every single one. So and
[38:52] Speaker 3: it won't matter.
[38:53] Speaker 2: No, you're right. It won't matter.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Well, Becca, thank you so much for coming on Dirty Rush.
[38:59] Speaker 1: This was such a great episode. I mean, this was
[39:02] Speaker 1: definitely one of the funner episodes I've filmed with someone.
[39:05] Speaker 2: Well, it was just funny because it was very entertaining
[39:09] Speaker 2: to hear you.
[39:12] Speaker 1: Really just say you didn't like being told what to
[39:14] Speaker 1: do and you really just rebelled against the rules. And
[39:17] Speaker 1: it took you so long for one, them not to
[39:19] Speaker 1: kick you out and two, like you finally just left.
[39:22] Speaker 1: Like I'm Hearing all of this, I'm like, okay, so
[39:26] Speaker 1: when did you drop or when did they kick you out?
[39:29] Speaker 2: And you're like, honestly, I didn't know I could leave.
[39:31] Speaker 2: And I just ended up leaving my senior year. It
[39:36] Speaker 2: was really funny.
[39:37] Speaker 1: But it's honestly, it's nice to know that now it
[39:41] Speaker 1: kind of gave you the strength to be who you are.
[39:44] Speaker 1: And you always just never wanted anyone else to kind
[39:49] Speaker 1: of shade you away from being who you really are
[39:51] Speaker 1: so yeah I.
[39:53] Speaker 3: Mean I honestly telling the story back again I do
[39:56] Speaker 3: think I might have been in the wrong but still
[39:58] Speaker 3: I'm okay so no matter what the girls are going
[40:01] Speaker 3: through during rush right now I'm like watching the videos
[40:04] Speaker 3: and they're getting so stressed out it literally does not
[40:06] Speaker 3: matter you.
[40:07] Speaker 1: Will be okay you'll be fine well Becca thank you
[40:11] Speaker 1: so much.
[40:12] Speaker 3: Thank you so much this was so fun it was
[40:14] Speaker 3: nice to meet you.
[40:14] Speaker 1: Nice to meet you as well And that's it for
[40:17] Speaker 1: this week's episode of Dirty Rush. Thank you so much
[40:19] Speaker 1: for joining us this week and make sure to follow
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[40:24] Speaker 1: you don't miss new episodes, exclusive clips, and more.
[40:28] Speaker 2: Love you guys.
[40:29] Speaker 1: Bye.

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