# Legally Brunette Presents: ‘Til Death Do Us Part - The Husband Who Fled To Italy

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 25 Oct 2026, 24 min.

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Lee Gilley was convicted of killing his pregnant wife in Texas while his two children slept in the same home. However, before his trial, he managed to escape to Italy… How did he gain a 60-hour head start from authorities, despite having an ankle monitor? How are Italy’s laws influencing the outcome of this case? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome to Till Death Do Us Part. I
[0:05] Speaker 1: will be your host today, Emily Simpson with Shane. So
[0:08] Speaker 1: for today's case, we are going to talk about a
[0:10] Speaker 1: man named Lee Gilley. It's been out there in the
[0:12] Speaker 1: news a little bit, but have you heard of him?
[0:14] Speaker 2: No.
[0:15] Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into it. In October of 2024,
[0:19] Speaker 1: Krista Bauer Gilley, a 38-year-old Houston physical therapist and mother
[0:24] Speaker 1: of two with another baby on the way, was found
[0:27] Speaker 1: unresponsive in her home in Harris County, Texas. Her husband,
[0:31] Speaker 1: Lee Gilley, called 911, but what began as a reported
[0:35] Speaker 1: medical emergency soon became a homicide investigation. Lee was charged
[0:40] Speaker 1: with capital murder and the deaths of his wife and
[0:43] Speaker 1: their unborn child. He has pleaded not guilty. Then just
[0:47] Speaker 1: weeks before his trial was supposed to begin, the case
[0:50] Speaker 1: took a dramatic turn that sent it across the Atlantic,
[0:54] Speaker 1: where it remains tangled in an international legal fight. Do
[0:58] Speaker 1: you know where Lee Gilley is right now?
[0:59] Speaker 2: Is that the one where he's in Italy?
[1:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in Italy.
[1:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04] Speaker 1: It's very interesting to me how this man is arrested
[1:07] Speaker 1: for murder.
[1:09] Speaker 2: And then he goes on vacation in Italy.
[1:10] Speaker 1: And then he's like in Milan. It's crazy.
[1:13] Speaker 2: He's having the best of pastas and pizzas and entertainment.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Well, he's in prison in Italy right now.
[1:19] Speaker 2: Well, he probably still is having pasta and pizza.
[1:22] Speaker 1: All right. So Krista and Lee Gilley both attended Clemson University,
[1:28] Speaker 1: and this is where they first met. They went on
[1:30] Speaker 1: one date and then reconnected eight years later.
[1:33] Speaker 2: They had a second date eight years later? Yeah.
[1:35] Speaker 1: The first one must not have gone very well. She's like,
[1:38] Speaker 1: he gives murder vibes.
[1:41] Speaker 2: Then she forgot about the murder vibes.
[1:42] Speaker 1: She's like, oh, wait.
[1:43] Speaker 2: He probably grew out of it.
[1:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was young. A Charleston wedding magazine post said
[1:48] Speaker 1: that the second date took place in Boston. Lee graduated
[1:52] Speaker 1: from Clemson in 2008 with a bachelor's in mechanical engineering.
[1:58] Speaker 1: All right, then they married on January 28th, 2017 in Charleston,
[2:02] Speaker 1: South Carolina. Krista is from Charleston and her family moved
[2:07] Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania to Somerville, South Carolina when she was in
[2:10] Speaker 1: middle school. Later, the couple settled together in Houston. So
[2:15] Speaker 1: now they're in Texas. Okay. And they had two children
[2:19] Speaker 1: born in 2020 and 2022. So they have young children.
[2:24] Speaker 1: Acquaintances described them as a very happy couple. One Houston
[2:28] Speaker 1: acquaintance told People Magazine that they had seemed like the
[2:31] Speaker 1: happiest couple in the world.
[2:33] Speaker 2: That's what they all say.
[2:34] Speaker 1: I know, right?
[2:35] Speaker 2: Because you don't really know your neighbors.
[2:36] Speaker 1: It's really the unhappy couples that are just the solid ones.
[2:40] Speaker 2: No one's ever going to say, oh, yeah, I'm not surprised.
[2:43] Speaker 2: I knew he was going to kill them. Like, no
[2:45] Speaker 2: one says that about your neighbors. Probably because- If anyone
[2:48] Speaker 2: asked you about your neighbors, what would you say?
[2:50] Speaker 1: About my neighbors?
[2:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:51] Speaker 1: I don't know who my neighbors are.
[2:52] Speaker 2: Well, what would you say?
[2:53] Speaker 1: I don't know my neighbors.
[2:54] Speaker 2: Oh, they're kind of quiet. They kind of kept to themselves.
[2:57] Speaker 2: They seem nice. That's all he would say.
[2:59] Speaker 1: Well, people describe them as the happiest couple they've ever
[3:02] Speaker 1: met in the world.
[3:03] Speaker 2: Wow.
[3:04] Speaker 1: Krista worked as a physical therapist and also served as
[3:07] Speaker 1: an adjunct professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch
[3:11] Speaker 1: and the University of Pittsburgh. Lee worked as a software consultant. Um,
[3:16] Speaker 1: prosecutors say, so now we get to March 18th of 2024.
[3:20] Speaker 1: This is roughly seven months before Krista's death. Prosecutors say
[3:25] Speaker 1: that Lee wrote a Reddit post that month saying he
[3:28] Speaker 1: was bored in his marriage and looking for a casual
[3:31] Speaker 1: arrangement with a college aged woman for a friends with
[3:34] Speaker 1: benefits arrangement. Who does that?
[3:37] Speaker 2: He does.
[3:38] Speaker 1: This man has such a narcissist. First of all, who
[3:41] Speaker 1: goes on Reddit and write something like that?
[3:44] Speaker 2: Plus, it's all about him, right? He's like, I want
[3:47] Speaker 2: no strings attached. I want it to be easy. And
[3:50] Speaker 2: college age. Yeah. College age. Must work out.
[3:54] Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't say blonde, 5'7. Well, he can't
[3:58] Speaker 1: be picky. Yeah, you're right.
[3:59] Speaker 2: He's not unreasonable.
[4:01] Speaker 1: Prosecutors also allege that Lee had an affair with a
[4:04] Speaker 1: woman in San Diego in 2023 and had been distant
[4:07] Speaker 1: and quiet around his wife before she died.
[4:10] Speaker 2: Read it?
[4:11] Speaker 1: He said? Well, he went on Reddit in 2024, but
[4:14] Speaker 1: prosecutors also claim he had an affair in 2023. So
[4:18] Speaker 1: in 2023, he has an affair with a woman in
[4:20] Speaker 1: San Diego. In 2020, the affair clearly fizzled out. So
[4:23] Speaker 1: now he's on Reddit in 2024. Is Reddit somewhere where
[4:27] Speaker 1: you would try to meet someone?
[4:29] Speaker 2: That's what I was asking. I never considered it as
[4:31] Speaker 2: a source.
[4:31] Speaker 1: I just thought Reddit was where everybody talks bad about housewives.
[4:34] Speaker 2: Well, they do that too.
[4:36] Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Mostly you.
[4:37] Speaker 2: Sorry.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Sorry. It's not just me. I've seen other housewives on
[4:43] Speaker 1: there as well. I didn't know that you could use
[4:46] Speaker 1: Reddit for dating or hooking up.
[4:50] Speaker 2: We should post to Reddit and see how long it takes.
[4:52] Speaker 1: We should post it together.
[4:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to get in trouble.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Transparency. All right. October 7th, 2024 is the day of
[5:01] Speaker 1: the alleged murder. So that day, Lee alleges that he
[5:05] Speaker 1: and Krista had gotten into a fight after he purchased
[5:07] Speaker 1: an SUV without her knowledge. Around 9.30 p.m., Krista and
[5:12] Speaker 1: Lee allegedly put their two children to bed, then went
[5:15] Speaker 1: to sleep in different rooms. Around 11.30 p.m., Lee called
[5:20] Speaker 1: police and said that his pregnant wife was non-responsive, describing
[5:24] Speaker 1: it as a suicide by overdose. However, he later admitted
[5:29] Speaker 1: to investigators that Krista was not suicidal or a drug user.
[5:34] Speaker 1: I don't know what the overdose is supposed to be.
[5:35] Speaker 2: So then he called to report it?
[5:38] Speaker 1: He calls and says that his wife is.
[5:40] Speaker 2: Retracted his statement? Dead.
[5:42] Speaker 1: And that she committed suicide. And then I guess later
[5:46] Speaker 1: admits that she was never suicidal and that she doesn't
[5:49] Speaker 1: do drugs.
[5:50] Speaker 2: Okay.
[5:52] Speaker 1: Krista was rushed to the hospital where staff noticed bruising
[5:56] Speaker 1: and apparent trauma to her face. She was pronounced dead
[5:59] Speaker 1: at the hospital. A Harris County pathologist determined that Krista's
[6:04] Speaker 1: cause of death was compression of the neck and upper back.
[6:07] Speaker 1: The autopsy also showed she was about eight weeks pregnant.
[6:12] Speaker 1: This is October 9th. So October 7th is the day
[6:14] Speaker 1: that she died. October 9th, they say that an autopsy
[6:17] Speaker 1: shows that she was pregnant, but she also has some
[6:20] Speaker 1: problems around her neck and upper back area. And then
[6:23] Speaker 1: on October 11th, Lee was arrested and charged with a
[6:27] Speaker 1: capital murder of his wife and their unborn child.
[6:30] Speaker 2: That's the best one. It's soon after. Yeah. It's like
[6:32] Speaker 2: they don't even get a weekend. I know.
[6:34] Speaker 1: That's why I did the dates. Cause it was like,
[6:35] Speaker 1: she died. Then two days later, they determined that she's pregnant,
[6:40] Speaker 1: but her cause of death, like she's got some, you know,
[6:43] Speaker 1: compression areas in the neck and the upper back. And
[6:45] Speaker 1: then two days after that, he's arrested. Yeah.
[6:47] Speaker 2: Good.
[6:48] Speaker 1: See, this is Texas. Yeah. This is the difference between
[6:52] Speaker 1: Texas and Massachusetts.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
[6:55] Speaker 1: Massachusetts is like.
[6:57] Speaker 2: Texas should just eat up Massachusetts.
[7:00] Speaker 1: Right? We should send like Karen Reed and Sandra Birchmore trial.
[7:04] Speaker 1: We should send them down to Texas.
[7:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, or send the police officers to work in Massachusetts.
[7:08] Speaker 2: They need to fire the whole police station. Didn't I
[7:10] Speaker 2: say that earlier? They need to burn down the police
[7:12] Speaker 2: station in Massachusetts.
[7:13] Speaker 1: Burn it down.
[7:14] Speaker 2: Yes.
[7:14] Speaker 1: Burn it down.
[7:15] Speaker 2: Yes, and then rebuild.
[7:24] Speaker 1: In mid-October of 2024, Lee is initially denied bond. Then, later,
[7:30] Speaker 1: he is granted a million-dollar bond and he's released on
[7:33] Speaker 1: October 17th of 2024. Where did he get the money?
[7:36] Speaker 2: I know.
[7:36] Speaker 1: I knew you were going to ask that. I think
[7:37] Speaker 1: his family and brother and I think everybody kind of
[7:41] Speaker 1: pulled together. And so he is released on– he had
[7:43] Speaker 1: a million-dollar bond, but he's released.
[7:45] Speaker 2: If your sister went to jail– For murder? Yeah. And
[7:49] Speaker 2: she's like, I didn't kill him. I didn't kill him.
[7:52] Speaker 2: And it was her husband, let's say. Yeah. What would
[7:54] Speaker 2: you do? Well, I don't bail her out.
[7:56] Speaker 1: Well, it depends on if I believe her or not.
[7:58] Speaker 1: It's my sister.
[7:59] Speaker 2: It's not my sister.
[8:01] Speaker 1: It's my sister. I would do it. All right. So
[8:04] Speaker 1: Lee gets out on bond and he's ordered to wear
[8:07] Speaker 1: an ankle monitor and surrender his passport. I mean, clearly
[8:11] Speaker 1: that it does nothing for this man. He ends up
[8:13] Speaker 1: in Italy. He was also barred from contacting his children
[8:17] Speaker 1: unless the family court allowed it and from contacting his
[8:20] Speaker 1: wife's family.
[8:21] Speaker 2: That's weird. Why not? Why can't you talk to your kids?
[8:24] Speaker 1: Because this is Texas, man, and he's arrested for murdering
[8:27] Speaker 1: his wife and his unborn child.
[8:29] Speaker 2: So everyone that's arrested for murder can't talk to their kids?
[8:32] Speaker 1: I don't know. He's barred from contacting his children. Well,
[8:35] Speaker 1: I don't know. Her parents... come in under some sort
[8:39] Speaker 1: of conservatorship type of situation and take the two children
[8:43] Speaker 1: and end up taking the kids to South Carolina where
[8:45] Speaker 1: they're from. You know, they're in Texas right now. In
[8:49] Speaker 1: April of 2025, a grand jury indicted Lee on capital
[8:52] Speaker 1: murder charges, covering the deaths of both Krista and their
[8:55] Speaker 1: unborn child. He pleaded not guilty. According to later court filings,
[8:59] Speaker 1: he allegedly talked with the woman he had an affair
[9:01] Speaker 1: with in 2023 about about a detailed plan to cut
[9:04] Speaker 1: off his ankle monitor, flee to Mexico or another country,
[9:08] Speaker 1: and possibly marry to get a new identity. So I
[9:11] Speaker 1: guess he's having conversations with someone he had an affair
[9:13] Speaker 1: with about how he's going to get out of this.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Is this person going to help him? They probably want
[9:17] Speaker 2: to help him leave because they don't want to be murdered.
[9:20] Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think she helps him. But
[9:22] Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he's like telling people about
[9:25] Speaker 1: his plans.
[9:27] Speaker 2: You know, it's like I get a speeding ticket. I
[9:29] Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to tell people. That's embarrassing.
[9:31] Speaker 2: Or like a parking ticket. I'm like, oh, sorry. And
[9:34] Speaker 2: I hide it. I go online, pay it so no
[9:36] Speaker 2: one knows. This guy murders people and flees and everything.
[9:40] Speaker 2: It's no shame.
[9:41] Speaker 1: No shame.
[9:42] Speaker 2: No shame.
[9:42] Speaker 1: No shame. All right. So we get to April of 2026.
[9:46] Speaker 1: So this was very recently. This is when I started
[9:48] Speaker 1: reading about it in the news. Prosecutors file paperwork disclosing
[9:52] Speaker 1: the conversations about fleeing. So remember, originally, he's just out
[9:57] Speaker 1: on bond, right? And he has to surrender his past.
[10:01] Speaker 1: Now they're like, okay, we have to do more.
[10:03] Speaker 2: They should just put him in jail.
[10:05] Speaker 1: I know, but they don't. Instead, the solution is, let's
[10:10] Speaker 1: put an ankle monitor on him.
[10:12] Speaker 2: Because clearly he's a law-abiding citizen that'll just leave it
[10:15] Speaker 2: on there and won't tamper with it.
[10:16] Speaker 1: On May 1st, his ankle monitor sent a strap tamper
[10:20] Speaker 1: alert and authorities could not reach him.
[10:22] Speaker 2: On what date?
[10:23] Speaker 1: This is May 1st.
[10:24] Speaker 2: And what date did they put it on him?
[10:26] Speaker 1: I don't know the date that he had his ankle.
[10:28] Speaker 2: April 29th.
[10:29] Speaker 1: But in April of 2026, prosecutors filed paperwork disclosing that
[10:33] Speaker 1: he was having conversations about fleeing. And I guess nothing
[10:37] Speaker 1: was done about it. I don't know. Maybe there was
[10:39] Speaker 1: like a hearing date set or whatever. But then by
[10:42] Speaker 1: May 1st, He's cutting his ankle monitor off.
[10:45] Speaker 2: They're like monitoring. They're like, hey, he's at a Home Depot. Hey,
[10:49] Speaker 2: he's at a Blacksmith. Hey, it's tampered with.
[10:53] Speaker 1: What are we going to do?
[10:54] Speaker 2: Okay, you bragged about Texas, but now what are they doing?
[10:57] Speaker 2: They're putting anklets on these people and sending them out. Anklets.
[11:00] Speaker 2: Isn't that what it is? Isn't that what it is? Yeah.
[11:03] Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, I've never had one,
[11:05] Speaker 1: but I guess apparently you can just cut it off,
[11:09] Speaker 1: but it has an alert, a strap tamper alert, but
[11:12] Speaker 1: then they couldn't find him. I mean, you get a
[11:14] Speaker 1: strap tamper alert, but you have to get to where
[11:17] Speaker 1: he is, right?
[11:18] Speaker 2: Right. There's clearly... That's just basically saying it's not tracking anymore.
[11:22] Speaker 2: That's all it does.
[11:23] Speaker 1: It's basically saying he cut it off and fled.
[11:25] Speaker 2: He got away with it. Right. But why can you
[11:27] Speaker 2: cut it off so easily?
[11:28] Speaker 1: I don't know. I was wondering the same thing. I
[11:30] Speaker 1: don't know.
[11:31] Speaker 2: I mean, why don't they make it like they do handcuffs?
[11:33] Speaker 2: So you can't cut it off.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have to have a key to get
[11:36] Speaker 1: it off?
[11:36] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm sure you have to have a key,
[11:38] Speaker 2: but is it just like a strap?
[11:40] Speaker 1: Is it like Velcro?
[11:41] Speaker 2: Is it just hook and loop?
[11:43] Speaker 1: I don't know, but he got it off. According to
[11:46] Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle... A flaw in the county's after-hours monitoring
[11:51] Speaker 1: system gave him about a 60-hour head start.
[11:55] Speaker 2: Wait, after? What? Everyone was on vacation or something?
[11:59] Speaker 1: What was it? It says the county's after-hours monitoring system,
[12:03] Speaker 1: there was a flaw in the system, and he got
[12:05] Speaker 1: about a 60-hour head start.
[12:07] Speaker 2: 60 hours?
[12:08] Speaker 1: He's like, sweet. I'm not going to Mexico. I'm going
[12:11] Speaker 1: to Italy. I know.
[12:13] Speaker 2: Are you serious? Yeah.
[12:16] Speaker 1: Okay, sources say, this man is very, he has a
[12:19] Speaker 1: lot of initiative. I will give him that.
[12:21] Speaker 2: If this guy wasn't a murderer, I'd find him really fascinating.
[12:25] Speaker 2: I'd like to pick his brain.
[12:26] Speaker 1: Sources claim that he left his home on a bicycle
[12:29] Speaker 1: and then boarded a private jet in Memphis and then
[12:33] Speaker 1: traveled on the private jet through Canada and then took
[12:38] Speaker 1: a flight to Milan, Italy.
[12:40] Speaker 2: Well, who's private jet?
[12:42] Speaker 1: That's, I know. I do not know.
[12:44] Speaker 2: It's like another one of his mistresses?
[12:46] Speaker 1: I don't know. They think maybe his brother helped him,
[12:48] Speaker 1: but I don't know who has a private jet.
[12:50] Speaker 2: Again, a private.
[12:51] Speaker 1: I don't know who has a private jet.
[12:52] Speaker 2: You know, that's funny, though, because you don't need a passport.
[12:56] Speaker 1: On a private jet? To leave the country with a...
[12:58] Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can get away with it
[13:00] Speaker 1: more when you enter the country. Well, no, he had
[13:02] Speaker 1: fake documentation made. So this man... got out on bond,
[13:07] Speaker 1: has an ankle monitor, manages to get a fake passport
[13:10] Speaker 1: and fake documentation, gets his ankle strap cut off somehow.
[13:14] Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it, gets it off.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Then there's a flaw in the system. So he's got
[13:18] Speaker 1: a 60 hour headstart, rides his bicycle from his house,
[13:21] Speaker 1: goes to a private jet, flies from Memphis to Canada.
[13:25] Speaker 1: He's flying around in Canada, and then he ends up
[13:27] Speaker 1: landing in Milan, Italy. And then Italy's like, oh, well,
[13:31] Speaker 1: you can't give him the death sentence because we don't
[13:33] Speaker 1: have the death sentence in Italy, so we're just going
[13:35] Speaker 1: to keep him here.
[13:36] Speaker 2: That's a good travel buddy. Let me see. If you
[13:40] Speaker 2: missed a flight, he would be able to figure out
[13:41] Speaker 2: a way to get there.
[13:42] Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. He'd be like, he'd be a good
[13:44] Speaker 1: travel buddy. He's like, we'll take a bike. We'll just
[13:46] Speaker 1: bicycle over here. And then I have a friend that
[13:48] Speaker 1: has a private jet. And then we'll just fly over
[13:49] Speaker 1: to Canada. And then we'll end up in Milan.
[13:50] Speaker 2: Oh, you don't need your passport. Let's go.
[13:52] Speaker 1: Or no, he's like, I made a fake one for you.
[13:54] Speaker 2: He's like, you don't need them. Let's go.
[13:56] Speaker 1: All right. So on May 3rd, he arrives in Milan
[14:00] Speaker 1: on forged Belgian documents, including a passport under the name
[14:04] Speaker 1: Lejeune Jean-Luc Olivier. Can you repeat that?
[14:08] Speaker 2: No.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Do you like my French accent? No.
[14:12] Speaker 2: I'm guilty of looking up ankle monitor. Yeah, I know.
[14:16] Speaker 1: You are always Googling when I'm doing podcasts. Shane likes
[14:21] Speaker 1: breaking news. He can't wait until we're done and then
[14:23] Speaker 1: talk about it on a following podcast. He has to
[14:26] Speaker 1: Google right in the middle.
[14:27] Speaker 2: The physical act of removing an ankle monitor is surprisingly easy,
[14:32] Speaker 2: but removing it without triggering an immediate alert to law
[14:34] Speaker 2: enforcement is impossible.
[14:36] Speaker 1: Well, whoop-dee-doo. Well, no, it is possible because he got
[14:39] Speaker 1: a 60-hour head start.
[14:41] Speaker 2: There was a flaw in there. Well, yeah, it's still
[14:42] Speaker 2: notifying him, but he just found out what their vacation
[14:44] Speaker 2: schedule was.
[14:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Maybe the ankle monitor had the hours on it. It's all,
[14:48] Speaker 2: if after 5 p.m., please call. Hey, they don't work
[14:53] Speaker 2: after 5 p.m. And it's a Friday. They probably don't
[14:55] Speaker 2: work on the weekends. Yeah.
[14:57] Speaker 1: So you're thinking, you want to know the time he
[14:59] Speaker 1: cut the ankle monitor. You're thinking it's 5.01 p.m. on
[15:02] Speaker 1: a Friday.
[15:02] Speaker 2: I don't know. 60 hours would lead to Monday.
[15:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Would you like to hear his French name
[15:09] Speaker 1: again on his fake documentation?
[15:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:11] Speaker 1: It's Lejeune Jean-Luc Olivier.
[15:15] Speaker 2: So does he speak French?
[15:16] Speaker 1: I doubt it.
[15:17] Speaker 2: How does he get away with it, then, if he
[15:18] Speaker 2: doesn't speak French and he totally comes off American?
[15:21] Speaker 1: It says they recognized that the documents were fake. I
[15:24] Speaker 1: wonder if he tried to use a French accent. He's like,
[15:27] Speaker 1: excuse me.
[15:28] Speaker 2: A passaport? I was going to say, well, now he
[15:32] Speaker 2: could dress up as a mime and not talk. Just
[15:34] Speaker 2: be like, you know. They just like gestures, right? And
[15:38] Speaker 2: then they're like, they won't question his accent.
[15:40] Speaker 1: All right. So they recognize that his documents are fake.
[15:43] Speaker 1: They refuse him entry and took him into immigration custody.
[15:47] Speaker 1: He then admitted who he was and claimed asylum. Is
[15:50] Speaker 1: that what you do? Do you just go asylum?
[15:53] Speaker 2: My country is coming after me.
[15:54] Speaker 1: Asylum.
[15:55] Speaker 2: Just because I murdered someone. They're harassing me.
[15:57] Speaker 1: All right. Then May 4th and 5th, a judge revoked
[16:00] Speaker 1: his bond after he failed to appear at a hearing
[16:02] Speaker 1: in the U.S. Well, obviously he's failing to appear. When
[16:06] Speaker 1: his name was called three times in the courthouse hallway,
[16:09] Speaker 1: prosecutors described his flight to the court. His trial had
[16:13] Speaker 1: been scheduled for late May. They're like, your honor, he
[16:18] Speaker 1: took off on a bike and then he cut his
[16:20] Speaker 1: ankle monitor off and then he took a private jet.
[16:23] Speaker 2: All right.
[16:24] Speaker 1: In a Milan courtroom, he refused to consent to extradition
[16:27] Speaker 1: and sought to stay in Italy while pursuing asylum. He
[16:30] Speaker 1: told the judge, Killed by who? He's talking about how
[16:33] Speaker 1: they're going to seek the death penalty. In his case.
[16:49] Speaker 1: And so he's telling the Italian court, the Italian government... Oh,
[16:53] Speaker 1: that's not happening to me.
[16:54] Speaker 2: Murder people. They're going to come after you.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Don't allow them to extradite me back to the U.S.
[16:59] Speaker 1: He went to Italy on purpose because Italy does not
[17:01] Speaker 1: recognize the death penalty or life in prison without parole.
[17:03] Speaker 1: Did you know that?
[17:04] Speaker 2: And they have no extraditing?
[17:06] Speaker 1: Well, no, they do. But they... They want to make
[17:10] Speaker 1: sure that if he's extradited to the United States, that
[17:13] Speaker 1: they don't pursue the death penalty or life without parole
[17:18] Speaker 1: because Italy does not recognize those two sentences. So, all right,
[17:24] Speaker 1: then we get to late May and early June. The
[17:26] Speaker 1: million dollar bond was ordered forfeited. The DOJ had 45
[17:30] Speaker 1: days from May 8th to formally submit an extradition request
[17:34] Speaker 1: and Italy confirmed that it received it. A Harris County
[17:37] Speaker 1: family court set a June 18th hearing on whether the
[17:40] Speaker 1: couple's children who are living with Krista's parents in South
[17:43] Speaker 1: Carolina must return to Texas. You know, I read about
[17:47] Speaker 1: this and I thought that was interesting. So while he's
[17:49] Speaker 1: in Italy and the United States is trying to extradite
[17:51] Speaker 1: him back to Texas, her parents have the two minor children, right?
[17:57] Speaker 1: They took some type of guardianship or conservatorship. They moved
[18:01] Speaker 1: them to South Carolina. Now those guardianship Two children, I
[18:04] Speaker 1: think it's two girls, but I'm not exactly sure, have
[18:06] Speaker 1: been living in South Carolina with her parents around her
[18:09] Speaker 1: whole family. So they have cousins and aunts and uncles
[18:11] Speaker 1: and grandparents. They're going to school there.
[18:14] Speaker 2: They're totally rooted into the system there.
[18:17] Speaker 1: Then the family court rules that they need to go
[18:19] Speaker 1: back to Texas.
[18:21] Speaker 2: Who's in Texas?
[18:22] Speaker 1: Nobody. There's nobody in Texas. I know. I guess it was.
[18:25] Speaker 2: The best interest of the children would be where they
[18:28] Speaker 2: are and where they have been.
[18:29] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[18:29] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[18:31] Speaker 1: He also faces a federal charge of interstate flight to
[18:34] Speaker 1: avoid prosecution. Also, there's no information about who has this
[18:37] Speaker 1: private jet, and I want to know that. I want
[18:39] Speaker 1: to know how he managed to secure a private jet
[18:45] Speaker 1: in his escape plan.
[18:46] Speaker 2: Well, I would assume he piggybacked off of someone that
[18:48] Speaker 2: was already flying.
[18:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, but how do you get someone to agree to
[18:52] Speaker 1: that when they know you have an ankle monitor and
[18:54] Speaker 1: you're on a million-dollar bond?
[18:55] Speaker 2: He doesn't have an ankle monitor. He took it off. Yeah.
[19:05] Speaker 1: All right, then we get to July 15th. At a
[19:07] Speaker 1: hearing before the Turin Court of Appeal, Lee said he
[19:10] Speaker 1: was seeking protection in Italy. So they have a hearing
[19:13] Speaker 1: in Italy on this man. The court in Italy blocks
[19:17] Speaker 1: the extradition request and it asks U.S. officials whether he
[19:20] Speaker 1: could be convicted of a lesser offense carrying a lighter
[19:23] Speaker 1: penalty closer to Italy's system where the maximum sentence is
[19:27] Speaker 1: considered 26 years. Italy abolished capital punishment in 1947 and
[19:33] Speaker 1: it is strictly banned under the Italian constitution. You know,
[19:36] Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew that. Do you think
[19:38] Speaker 1: he did his research and knew that if he fled
[19:40] Speaker 1: to Italy and he could actually get in Italy and
[19:42] Speaker 1: put two feet down an italian soil maybe maybe that
[19:48] Speaker 1: it would be a problem to extradite him back because.
[19:50] Speaker 2: Maybe i mean that would that would make sense that
[19:54] Speaker 2: if he's going to go somewhere he would look somewhere
[19:55] Speaker 2: that would give him some protection.
[19:58] Speaker 1: Because that's very interesting that the italian court is like
[20:00] Speaker 1: look Yeah. We might let him go back, but you
[20:03] Speaker 1: guys have to charge him with something less.
[20:05] Speaker 2: It's like we're serious on this thing.
[20:07] Speaker 1: Because we don't recognize that.
[20:08] Speaker 2: You don't want to give him the credit for being
[20:10] Speaker 2: that sophisticated, huh?
[20:11] Speaker 1: I know. But, I mean, it seems like he did
[20:12] Speaker 1: his homework or else he just got really, really lucky.
[20:15] Speaker 2: Well, where have you been? This guy fled. He had
[20:19] Speaker 2: multiple ways of transporting himself. He had no ankle bracelet.
[20:22] Speaker 2: He got out on bail. He's sleeping with women while
[20:25] Speaker 2: he's sleeping with other women. I mean.
[20:26] Speaker 1: He's just a lucky man.
[20:28] Speaker 2: I don't know if it's luck because... He doesn't have
[20:31] Speaker 2: his kids and he's in jail. I don't know.
[20:33] Speaker 1: Then we get to September 7th. This is another hearing
[20:36] Speaker 1: in Italy. The extradition back to the United States is
[20:39] Speaker 1: delayed again. Then September 14th and 15th, the Italian court
[20:44] Speaker 1: asked the Harris County DA to formally promise never to
[20:48] Speaker 1: seek the death penalty.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Why would they go so far? You'd think they'd just
[20:50] Speaker 2: be like, yeah, can you take this guy? Because we
[20:52] Speaker 2: don't want all these extra court dates.
[20:54] Speaker 1: I know. I don't understand. They're very, very, very committed
[20:58] Speaker 1: to this man getting a lighter sentence.
[21:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
[21:02] Speaker 1: So the grandparents were ordered to return the kids to Texas,
[21:07] Speaker 1: which means that's awful because that means they have to
[21:09] Speaker 1: take them out of the school that they're in. They
[21:10] Speaker 1: have to take them away from family.
[21:12] Speaker 2: They don't even have any property in Texas. They have
[21:15] Speaker 2: to find a place to live. They have to start over.
[21:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to relocate. I don't know. Do they
[21:19] Speaker 1: have jobs? They have to find jobs there. They have
[21:21] Speaker 1: to get an apartment or buy a house. I mean,
[21:25] Speaker 1: that's awful to put that burden on two grandparents.
[21:27] Speaker 2: What are we missing? There had to have been something.
[21:29] Speaker 2: That makes no sense.
[21:31] Speaker 1: I don't know. All I read was that the court
[21:34] Speaker 1: that ordered it, the family court that ordered it, I
[21:36] Speaker 1: guess this is in South Carolina, said that Texas had
[21:38] Speaker 1: a better understanding of the case because this is where
[21:41] Speaker 1: it all happened, so that the kids should be ordered
[21:44] Speaker 1: back there. I guess they wanted to just keep this
[21:46] Speaker 1: whole case, not have a family court case in South
[21:48] Speaker 1: Carolina and then a criminal case in Texas.
[21:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, we want it convenient for you, but
[21:53] Speaker 2: what about the kids?
[21:55] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[21:55] Speaker 2: That's not the best interest of the court. It's the
[21:57] Speaker 2: best interest of the kids.
[21:58] Speaker 1: Exactly. All right, now we get to the latest developments
[22:03] Speaker 1: in this case. We're at October 7th. Lee was scheduled
[22:06] Speaker 1: to appear again before the Italian Court of Appeal the
[22:10] Speaker 1: same day Chris's parents, Chris and Sharon Bauer, filed a
[22:14] Speaker 1: wrongful death suit against him in Harris County District Court.
[22:18] Speaker 1: The suit seeks more than a million dollars in damages.
[22:21] Speaker 1: Their attorney said the goal is to hold him accountable
[22:23] Speaker 1: and keep him from recovering assets. The family has said
[22:27] Speaker 1: it does not want him executed. As of today, Lee
[22:32] Speaker 1: Gilley remains in Italy and his asylum claim is still pending.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Any decision to send him back can still be appealed
[22:39] Speaker 1: to Italy's court of cassation. So we will continue to
[22:43] Speaker 1: follow Lee Gilley and see if he actually ends up
[22:45] Speaker 1: back in Texas. Lee Gilley? Yeah. Sounds like a country singer.
[22:49] Speaker 2: Sounds like legally. Oh, legally. Legally.
[22:53] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It does. I thought it sounded
[22:57] Speaker 1: like a country singer. Lee Gilley.
[22:59] Speaker 2: No, I thought it sounded like the word legally.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Okay, you're right.
[23:01] Speaker 2: All right. Legally brunette.
[23:04] Speaker 1: Legally brunette.
[23:05] Speaker 2: Yes.
[23:06] Speaker 1: All right, we're going to continue to follow this case
[23:08] Speaker 1: because I find it fascinating.
[23:10] Speaker 2: Wait, as of now, he's in Italy.
[23:11] Speaker 1: He's still in Italy.
[23:12] Speaker 2: And his kids are in Texas.
[23:14] Speaker 1: Are in Texas with the grandparents. I want to know
[23:17] Speaker 1: how the grandparents are. Did they have to rent a house?
[23:19] Speaker 1: Did they buy a house? Did they have to get
[23:21] Speaker 1: new jobs in Texas?
[23:22] Speaker 2: It was for them if they pulled it off.
[23:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, how are they doing? What's going on in the
[23:27] Speaker 1: family court?
[23:28] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[23:29] Speaker 1: And Lee Gilley needs to get on a flight. He
[23:31] Speaker 1: needs to get on his private jet and he needs
[23:33] Speaker 1: to go back to Texas where he needs to be tried.
[23:35] Speaker 2: And put his accessories back on.
[23:39] Speaker 1: Put his ankle monitor back on. They need a better
[23:42] Speaker 1: ankle monitor after this situation. Do you think they redesigned
[23:45] Speaker 1: them after this?
[23:45] Speaker 2: No.
[23:46] Speaker 1: No?
[23:47] Speaker 2: No, I think they're just kind of buckled on in
[23:50] Speaker 2: a way.
[23:51] Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much for listening till
[23:53] Speaker 1: death do us part. If you have any cases that
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