# CARL’S A MESS! (Summer House Recap)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 4 Jun 2026, 1 h 01 min.

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Teddi and Tamra have some unpopular opinions about part 2 of the Summer House reunion… Are there moments where Amanda’s arguments make sense?! Does Amanda even care that West will be faithful a year from now? If this relationship falls apart, will everyone be quick to forgive her?! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod.
[0:04] Speaker 2: It's Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge. Hi, guys, welcome to
[0:10] Speaker 2: another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself,
[0:12] Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp and cambrid Judge.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, it's actually not morning anymore. It's
[0:18] Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. It's a later pod.
[0:20] Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of like potting later. How do
[0:23] Speaker 3: you feel?
[0:25] Speaker 1: I feel like we need to do a happy hour
[0:27] Speaker 1: pod where we do one where we have cocktails.
[0:31] Speaker 3: I know, but those are best when we're in person.
[0:34] Speaker 1: True, But also like when I did Kinney's interview, I
[0:38] Speaker 1: did it later in the day because he had to
[0:40] Speaker 1: do it after work and he's in New York, so
[0:42] Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to have a glass of champagne.
[0:45] Speaker 1: I'm like, and it just makes it so much more fun.
[0:48] Speaker 1: We should have a happy hour.
[0:51] Speaker 2: We should do a happy hour Q and a happy
[0:53] Speaker 2: Hour with the Twatz, Happy Hour with the Twats.
[0:58] Speaker 3: I wish we could do live podcast. How does that
[1:01] Speaker 3: even work?
[1:02] Speaker 1: Well, we've done we did one or two?
[1:06] Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Live like when you're on zoom
[1:09] Speaker 3: you mean like.
[1:10] Speaker 1: It airs as we're talking and there's no editing. Do
[1:12] Speaker 1: you want us to get sued. Yeah, yeah, you want us. Yeah,
[1:17] Speaker 1: if you don't have enough problems right now, you're gonna
[1:18] Speaker 1: add lawsuit on top of that. Okay, no, no.
[1:25] Speaker 2: I love it that, like there'll be a standard word
[1:28] Speaker 2: and we both look at each other through the zoom
[1:30] Speaker 2: and a full panic state.
[1:32] Speaker 3: Do either of us know how to say this word?
[1:34] Speaker 3: And we're like, no, no, go board, who's gonna take it?
[1:39] Speaker 1: The things we do, well, you know what we need.
[1:41] Speaker 1: We need a bloopers reel.
[1:43] Speaker 3: We do be funny. That's also my favorite.
[1:47] Speaker 2: That's always we're in the middle of talking about somebody
[1:50] Speaker 2: and then we're like.
[1:51] Speaker 1: Oh, can you guys remind me what her name again? Oh? Amanda?
[1:55] Speaker 1: As if we haven't heard it a million times?
[1:57] Speaker 3: Hold on, okay, why we're talking about Amanda? I have
[1:59] Speaker 3: a question. We are going to be recapping Summer House.
[2:02] Speaker 3: Does Kyle call Amanda Mandy? I've heard him say it
[2:08] Speaker 3: a couple of times.
[2:09] Speaker 1: I've heard people call her Mandy.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if they're doing that because
[2:13] Speaker 2: of like the Raquel Rachel thing, like or oh.
[2:15] Speaker 1: You think there's meaning to it. I don't know. I
[2:17] Speaker 1: don't know that deep about it. I don't know if
[2:19] Speaker 1: it's been going on for years, but whatever, because the
[2:24] Speaker 1: time he.
[2:25] Speaker 3: Was like kind of trying to like console her. I
[2:28] Speaker 3: think he was like, Mandy.
[2:30] Speaker 1: Did he say that? Yeah, at least he didn't go,
[2:33] Speaker 1: didn't he go, Scamanda, Commanda, just calmed down?
[2:37] Speaker 3: Just just calm down, Amanda. What I have? It's I
[2:43] Speaker 3: mean I.
[2:43] Speaker 1: Think he did, like is that it's an ongoing podcast, right,
[2:46] Speaker 1: it's an ongoing podcast. Oh, I haven't. I thought it
[2:48] Speaker 1: was like a one time. Wasn't it about a movie
[2:51] Speaker 1: or something?
[2:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about a girl who pretends she has cancer.
[2:58] Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, gosh, well all I know is.
[3:01] Speaker 3: That ever since I did my cancer post.
[3:04] Speaker 2: About how I was emotional, and then I was going
[3:05] Speaker 2: in from my thing. Now my entire instagram is about cancer.
[3:12] Speaker 1: I'm shocked to it.
[3:12] Speaker 2: Asn't anyways like my entire thing, and and now, don't
[3:17] Speaker 2: worry every time I get one that says that, like,
[3:19] Speaker 2: because something that people say happens is when you get
[3:22] Speaker 2: like a clearer result that all of a sudden you're
[3:25] Speaker 2: supposed to have all this like energy and happiness, and
[3:30] Speaker 2: it's completely the opposite. You have like rage and anger
[3:34] Speaker 2: and like all of these things. So that's that's kind
[3:38] Speaker 2: of what's taking towards me is like, you know, you
[3:40] Speaker 2: think you're gonna get the diagnosis that you know there's
[3:43] Speaker 2: no visual signs of cancer, and then.
[3:48] Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden you're gonna be so grateful and.
[3:51] Speaker 1: And then you get angry about that.
[3:52] Speaker 2: No, then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, but
[3:55] Speaker 2: now one fucking part of my life has changed. It's
[3:58] Speaker 2: already changed my life. It has already ruined so many
[4:02] Speaker 2: parts of my life. And yes, of course, how.
[4:06] Speaker 1: Do we turn that around? How do we turn that around? Yes,
[4:10] Speaker 1: you're going through it, and yes it sucks. And they
[4:12] Speaker 1: will say people will say all the time, you can
[4:15] Speaker 1: have a bazillion problems, but if you don't have your health,
[4:18] Speaker 1: you just have one problem because you can't do the
[4:22] Speaker 1: things you want to do. And that's like, don't worry
[4:24] Speaker 1: about Oh and if I gained three pounds, Oh do
[4:26] Speaker 1: my you know hair need to be colored?
[4:28] Speaker 3: Oh do I need you know, botox?
[4:30] Speaker 1: No, this is like big shit to be concerned about
[4:32] Speaker 1: and all those other things that really don't matter. So
[4:34] Speaker 1: you're you're in it, but you need to turn it
[4:36] Speaker 1: to a positive. Why don't you get with somebody, start
[4:39] Speaker 1: writing a book about it. I mean, and the big
[4:42] Speaker 1: think about this way, Teddy, You're diagnosed originally with six
[4:47] Speaker 1: to nine months, and now you have no visible sign
[4:51] Speaker 1: of tumors. You're still in immunotherapy, and you're still gonna
[4:55] Speaker 1: feel like shit for the next year, which is unfortunate.
[5:00] Speaker 1: The bigger picture is you did it. You did it, girl.
[5:05] Speaker 2: I mean, of course, it feels so grateful. It's like,
[5:09] Speaker 2: I mean, it's a miracle. Yeah, I feel a grateful
[5:13] Speaker 2: it's a miracle. But then there's so much like that
[5:17] Speaker 2: you expect from yourself. Yeah, the day that you get
[5:21] Speaker 2: that information, like you're like, okay, well I'm going to
[5:23] Speaker 2: wake up today and I am going to be back
[5:28] Speaker 2: to me. I'm going to feel so grateful.
[5:32] Speaker 3: I'm going to feel. So you're battling two things.
[5:35] Speaker 1: You're battling two things. You're battling the long term effects
[5:39] Speaker 1: of having brain surgery and the memory stuff and all that.
[5:43] Speaker 1: So you'll have that for a while, and then you're
[5:46] Speaker 1: battling feeling like shit from you know, therapy and all
[5:49] Speaker 1: the other things it does to you. Like you remember,
[5:52] Speaker 1: like attacking your thyroids and doing this and giving you
[5:55] Speaker 1: hives and do all these things, like you're going to
[5:58] Speaker 1: be on this for another year. But the other thing
[6:01] Speaker 1: is is that it's working. It is fucking working. It
[6:04] Speaker 1: is a miracle.
[6:06] Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I thought that I was going to
[6:09] Speaker 2: come home yesterday and like I had my friends texting me, like.
[6:13] Speaker 3: My you know, you know the girls like Latall, and
[6:16] Speaker 3: they're like, do you don't want to go celebrate today?
[6:18] Speaker 2: Like they thought I wanted to, like go have margs
[6:21] Speaker 2: and like, and I seriously sat in my bed and
[6:26] Speaker 2: cried and cried all day long.
[6:28] Speaker 1: Well it's the aftermath of being so stressed out and
[6:32] Speaker 1: you were on Instagram. I didn't see it till the
[6:34] Speaker 1: next morning, but you're on Instagram that night, crying on
[6:35] Speaker 1: Instagram saying like you're stressed out and you're going in
[6:39] Speaker 1: for your scan And it's after mouth of that. So
[6:41] Speaker 1: now you've got a scan and you know now because
[6:43] Speaker 1: you're worried because your head was starting to hurt lately,
[6:46] Speaker 1: and you know now that it's still working. It is
[6:48] Speaker 1: still working on you. You're not in remission, but you're it
[6:53] Speaker 1: is working on you. And now you're just like just
[6:56] Speaker 1: emotionally drained from all that. Yeah, I got its thing
[7:00] Speaker 1: gets in there too.
[7:01] Speaker 2: I mean, and I but now that I am, Instagram
[7:04] Speaker 2: is totally seeking me.
[7:06] Speaker 3: Now I'm getting all.
[7:07] Speaker 2: Of these other which has actually been really helpful because
[7:10] Speaker 2: I thought, like, maybe I'm a really selfish fucking person,
[7:13] Speaker 2: Like maybe something that's really wrong with.
[7:15] Speaker 1: Making It took answer for you to realize that.
[7:21] Speaker 2: But I'm like, maybe, like why do I not have
[7:24] Speaker 2: this overwhelming sense of gratitude right now?
[7:27] Speaker 3: Like why am I?
[7:29] Speaker 1: And but all of these because you're living it, it's
[7:32] Speaker 1: easy for us to say.
[7:34] Speaker 2: All of the women that keep getting sent into my
[7:37] Speaker 2: instagrams like talking about the same thing, they're like, people
[7:40] Speaker 2: think that you're going to get this information and they
[7:43] Speaker 2: forget that your whole entire world has changed.
[7:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, did you forget? Did you forget the last the
[7:49] Speaker 1: very first clear scan you got? You went through the
[7:53] Speaker 1: same thing.
[7:54] Speaker 3: I don't remember it.
[7:55] Speaker 1: Yes, you were very depressed and sad and angry, and
[7:58] Speaker 1: you went through a ton of a moment. And I thought,
[8:01] Speaker 1: and I said to you on this podcast, I go,
[8:03] Speaker 1: don't you feel like relieve knowing it works? And You're like, no, nope,
[8:08] Speaker 1: I don't.
[8:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there is my mental health and like
[8:12] Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we should do a podcast
[8:15] Speaker 2: not about not about my cancer, but about like mental health.
[8:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it is.
[8:24] Speaker 2: So Yeah, it just it just weighs on you so much,
[8:29] Speaker 2: especially when you fancy yourself like a strong person or
[8:34] Speaker 2: like my entire identity has been tied to you know,
[8:38] Speaker 2: get up and go and move your body and this
[8:42] Speaker 2: is what's going to make you feel better.
[8:44] Speaker 3: And like now I'm like, fuck it, I can't do any.
[8:46] Speaker 2: Of these things and I don't want to and I
[8:49] Speaker 2: don't want you bugging me either, And like it's not
[8:52] Speaker 2: like I'm not trying. It's not like I'm not in
[8:54] Speaker 2: therapy actually therapy two times a week. I'm trying to know,
[9:00] Speaker 2: like manage having you know, my family, my friends, you know,
[9:05] Speaker 2: the podcast.
[9:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I seriously feel like a waste of space.
[9:12] Speaker 3: Stop it, and and.
[9:14] Speaker 1: Like we need to work on that with you. And
[9:16] Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know, but you have
[9:19] Speaker 1: to get over that because when you have those bad thoughts,
[9:22] Speaker 1: you're just bringing in that bad energy towards you.
[9:24] Speaker 3: I know, but that's what people say, but you can't help.
[9:26] Speaker 3: But when you're going through it, you cannot help it.
[9:30] Speaker 2: And I'm not making excuses for myself, but like yesterday,
[9:33] Speaker 2: I felt bad for my So after all of my
[9:37] Speaker 2: like appointments and everything, I had an appointment with my
[9:41] Speaker 2: I forget which the ones that prescribe meds for like
[9:46] Speaker 2: the psychiatrists, psychologists, but the one that gives met psychiatrist.
[9:52] Speaker 2: So I was telling her about my symptoms, like cause
[9:54] Speaker 2: I came out of there and I was so freaking
[9:57] Speaker 2: emotional and like I had called my dad, I called Edwin.
[10:00] Speaker 2: They're all like cheering and rooting me on, and I'm
[10:03] Speaker 2: pretty much yelling at them.
[10:06] Speaker 3: Michael'm like, this isn't what I want to hear right now.
[10:08] Speaker 1: I am fury, Like I think you should get off
[10:12] Speaker 1: the medication you're on and go on something different.
[10:14] Speaker 3: They're switching me my lid.
[10:16] Speaker 1: I just feel like you're emotional, you're stressed out. You've
[10:21] Speaker 1: said them multiple times, like it's making you gain weight
[10:24] Speaker 1: taking this medication which makes you feel bad about yourself
[10:27] Speaker 1: and you don't have the energy to work out and
[10:29] Speaker 1: all that.
[10:30] Speaker 3: They're definitely switching it up for me.
[10:32] Speaker 2: And the thing that's I'm so scared and I didn't
[10:38] Speaker 2: realize this, but you know who actually reached out to
[10:40] Speaker 2: me and said something that was really like of course
[10:43] Speaker 2: I started crying again.
[10:44] Speaker 1: But Lacey, I absolutely love her.
[10:47] Speaker 2: She reached out to me and she's like, you really
[10:49] Speaker 2: need to talk to your therapist about having PTSD.
[10:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, because.
[10:54] Speaker 2: That is definitely something that happens when you go through
[10:58] Speaker 2: like a traumatic event like this.
[11:00] Speaker 3: She's like, so you're going through PTSD, how do you think? Yeah?
[11:03] Speaker 2: And like I just I kind of forget that, like
[11:08] Speaker 2: this is all and and I, you know before, I'm
[11:14] Speaker 2: just so scared that I'm going to go back to
[11:17] Speaker 2: the slurry, slow teddy that why.
[11:23] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[11:23] Speaker 2: I'm scared if they switch my medication, Like what if
[11:26] Speaker 2: all of a sudden I'm talking slow again, What if
[11:28] Speaker 2: I am losing my train of thought? Like what like
[11:31] Speaker 2: this is at least working, but now I have rage.
[11:34] Speaker 2: They wanted to put me on like an adderall or something,
[11:40] Speaker 2: but I was like, I absolutely cannot.
[11:41] Speaker 3: I am so anxious.
[11:43] Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night like
[11:45] Speaker 2: sweating through my clothes.
[11:46] Speaker 3: I'm so anxious.
[11:47] Speaker 2: There's absolutely no way I can be on a stimulant
[11:51] Speaker 2: like that, Like diet coke is my stimulant.
[11:53] Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question have you had
[11:56] Speaker 1: because all the medication you're going through, your hormones have
[11:59] Speaker 1: to be totally out of whack. Do you think, like
[12:02] Speaker 1: do you can you get that tested? But then if
[12:04] Speaker 1: you date it tested and they're even if you can't
[12:06] Speaker 1: do anything about it? Yeah, because yeah, because they say something.
[12:09] Speaker 3: Because I think I'm for sure going through perimenopause.
[12:12] Speaker 1: Probably have you heard there's been a lot of reports.
[12:15] Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of stuff on g GLP
[12:18] Speaker 1: once just to At first, I was one hundred percent
[12:22] Speaker 1: against it. I thought it was a eating disorder and
[12:23] Speaker 1: a shot that I've listened to doctors. I've seen people
[12:27] Speaker 1: lecture about it. Now they're saying that GOLP wants help
[12:31] Speaker 1: with cancer, not for weight loss, but just for mental state.
[12:36] Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's so many things that ultimately
[12:40] Speaker 2: I can do. I think that I one need to
[12:44] Speaker 2: keep a journal and Mike.
[12:47] Speaker 1: Yes, because you need to write a book.
[12:49] Speaker 2: Because I need to remember, like because I really don't
[12:52] Speaker 2: tam like I forget so much. I live such day
[12:57] Speaker 2: to day that you know, it's it's like I wake up,
[13:01] Speaker 2: I'm like, what podcast do I have?
[13:02] Speaker 1: Okay, You're just trying to get through each day.
[13:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm trying to get through each day, but
[13:08] Speaker 3: you know what has gone me through each day?
[13:10] Speaker 1: Summer House, You're just glad you're not in that mess, right.
[13:15] Speaker 2: You know.
[13:16] Speaker 3: I'm I'm like, been there, done that.
[13:26] Speaker 2: So we start this episode and it's we pick up
[13:31] Speaker 2: right where Amanda's crying over Sierra's comments that she's a
[13:35] Speaker 2: weak figure. Lindsay doubles down on West, calling him a pathy.
[13:40] Speaker 1: I've never heard that. I'm a pathological liar? Is that
[13:43] Speaker 1: what it is?
[13:44] Speaker 3: You're a pathy?
[13:45] Speaker 1: Well, so Sierra was going in on Amanda, and Kyle's like,
[13:50] Speaker 1: that's too much. She went too far. Do you think
[13:54] Speaker 1: that he she went too far?
[13:58] Speaker 3: I think that.
[14:01] Speaker 2: What we're seeing from Kyle is he knows Amanda, he
[14:07] Speaker 2: knows how much she can mentally take, and he knows
[14:12] Speaker 2: that she's at her wits end. And I think that, truthfully,
[14:18] Speaker 2: and this is going to probably be an unpopular thought,
[14:21] Speaker 2: I think West wanted to go follow Amanda. I think
[14:26] Speaker 2: Wes wants to be there for Amanda. I think West, they.
[14:30] Speaker 1: Don't know what to do.
[14:31] Speaker 3: He is so scared.
[14:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw that when he goes to her dressing room. Yeah,
[14:36] Speaker 1: like I don't know when it.
[14:37] Speaker 3: We'll get to it.
[14:38] Speaker 1: But this is his comment like am I not going
[14:40] Speaker 1: in enough or something like that, like they had a
[14:43] Speaker 1: game plan going in. We are not going to win this.
[14:46] Speaker 1: We need to shut our mouths. Lots of people are
[14:50] Speaker 1: saying that Amanda it took his ant x before she
[14:52] Speaker 1: went out there. There's a lot of like slow blinking,
[14:57] Speaker 1: a lot of like head down, very slow movements and.
[15:02] Speaker 3: Eyes are raised and like that.
[15:04] Speaker 1: It's people are like, oh no, all take yeah, she's
[15:07] Speaker 1: like people are saying like, oh, she's on prozac. Well
[15:09] Speaker 1: she's admittged on prozac, but this is a different level.
[15:11] Speaker 1: This is like, you know, it's a sedative and also pro.
[15:14] Speaker 2: People that say that, like a friend of mine's husband
[15:17] Speaker 2: recently ex husband was like, she's addicted to prozac. I'm like,
[15:21] Speaker 2: you don't get addicted and work like that, right, You're
[15:23] Speaker 2: not addicted to antidepressants, Like, come on, it's not like
[15:28] Speaker 2: taking You could be like addicted to kolanapin or xanax
[15:32] Speaker 2: or volume, but you're not addicted to an antidepressant.
[15:37] Speaker 1: It does take it a certain way or else.
[15:39] Speaker 3: It's bad for you, but who knows.
[15:41] Speaker 2: kJ says he's hurt by West's actions because his father
[15:44] Speaker 2: was also a womanizer with a similar persona, and how
[15:48] Speaker 2: it hurt his family. I feel like West, if West's
[15:53] Speaker 2: original you know, rundown of or what was it called
[15:58] Speaker 2: his announcement? Yeah, what do we call it? It's not
[16:01] Speaker 2: their announcement, their statement, West's statement if that was written
[16:07] Speaker 2: by Chatjbut West should have done some chat jubt responses
[16:11] Speaker 2: for this reunion.
[16:12] Speaker 1: I never thought about that's a good idea because he
[16:15] Speaker 1: had nothing. It was a stupid statement. I think if
[16:18] Speaker 1: anybody should, I just I'm tired of the statements. There's
[16:21] Speaker 1: been a lot of statements from Bravo people nowadays.
[16:24] Speaker 3: I don't want to.
[16:25] Speaker 1: See a statement, but not everybody needs to know your
[16:27] Speaker 1: fucking business, you know what I mean? Like you are
[16:29] Speaker 1: in a reality TV show. Just hold on to it
[16:31] Speaker 1: until the reunion and make your statement there what you're
[16:34] Speaker 1: getting paid for. Like, I don't know. I think if
[16:37] Speaker 1: anybody should have made a statement, maybe Amanda should have
[16:41] Speaker 1: all by herself. But I don't think Amanda. I think
[16:48] Speaker 1: you know what, I know what We're going.
[16:50] Speaker 3: To be skipping around so much. I just say so
[16:52] Speaker 3: much like on my chest about buying it out.
[16:54] Speaker 2: Baby, it's like, I think that Amanda has wanted the
[16:59] Speaker 2: feeling of love for so long. I agree that this
[17:04] Speaker 2: feeling that West gives her is so intoxicating.
[17:08] Speaker 3: That there's nothing anybody could have done to switch it.
[17:11] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much she loves Sierra, it doesn't
[17:14] Speaker 2: matter how much hate she's going to get.
[17:16] Speaker 3: She is at the place where, you know, we see
[17:21] Speaker 3: towards the end, we see.
[17:22] Speaker 2: Kyle like making his reasons on why you know this
[17:27] Speaker 2: this all happened, and kind of making excuses. But I
[17:30] Speaker 2: truly think Amanda had no other way to get out
[17:34] Speaker 2: other than to get underneath somebody else.
[17:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's hard because they said
[17:43] Speaker 1: last episode, like you can choose who you're going to
[17:46] Speaker 1: be with if you know, like if it's like me saying,
[17:49] Speaker 1: I'm married to Eddie, but I have strong feelings for
[17:51] Speaker 1: his friend, so I'm just gonna like jump out of
[17:53] Speaker 1: this marriage and go with him. No, my dad did
[17:56] Speaker 1: that to my mom, he le after twenty seven years,
[18:00] Speaker 1: you know, jumped in bed with my mom's friend, Yeah,
[18:03] Speaker 1: and left her. Like that's like a you know, not
[18:06] Speaker 1: a cool thing to do, not a good thing to watch,
[18:09] Speaker 1: and by the way, not in common not uncommon, not uncommon.
[18:13] Speaker 2: And I think it also if when you are feeling
[18:16] Speaker 2: so unsupported for so long and then all of a
[18:20] Speaker 2: sudden somebody is giving you some sort of support, you're
[18:24] Speaker 2: gonna take you You're gonna take it. And it doesn't
[18:26] Speaker 2: matter who. It's going to crash through and hurt and
[18:29] Speaker 2: and you know what, no matter how much this is
[18:31] Speaker 2: probably gonna end up hurting Amanda long term, It's not
[18:34] Speaker 2: gonna because when he when he breaks her heart, Yeah,
[18:38] Speaker 2: this is going to be catastrophic.
[18:40] Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay was telling Amanda that West is going to
[18:43] Speaker 1: do what he did to Sierra to her. Yeah, I
[18:47] Speaker 1: mean he's got a history of doing that. I'm not
[18:49] Speaker 1: saying people can't change. And I'm not saying like, oh
[18:52] Speaker 1: my god, did they find the one and they're gonna
[18:54] Speaker 1: get married and live happily ever after And none of
[18:56] Speaker 1: this stuff in ten years, five years is even going
[18:59] Speaker 1: to matter. I don't know. Time will tell. I guess.
[19:03] Speaker 2: Well, Andy echoes the importance of their conversation surrounding race.
[19:09] Speaker 2: Sierra thinks West and Amanda were just placating and using buzzwords.
[19:15] Speaker 3: What I did notice.
[19:16] Speaker 2: About this is that throughout the season, West.
[19:20] Speaker 3: And Amanda would say the same exact.
[19:22] Speaker 1: Things like what what do you mean?
[19:25] Speaker 2: Like, no matter what, they'd be like, I'm hearing you
[19:29] Speaker 2: or I'm doing like they've seeing you, I'm seeing you,
[19:32] Speaker 2: I see this.
[19:33] Speaker 3: I hear this.
[19:34] Speaker 2: Like So, I don't know if they were having side conversations,
[19:38] Speaker 2: Like clearly, I'm not saying they were having a relationship,
[19:40] Speaker 2: but I don't but I think they were building a
[19:44] Speaker 2: emotional relationship throughout the season.
[19:47] Speaker 1: It sounded like it. It seemed like that from what
[19:49] Speaker 1: we saw, they were getting closer and closer, but there
[19:51] Speaker 1: was always so much hesitation on West's side, like he
[19:56] Speaker 1: could have moved faster or he just and he kept
[19:59] Speaker 1: saying thing It's like, well, you know, I don't want
[20:00] Speaker 1: to hurt her and I don't want to get in
[20:02] Speaker 1: a relationship with her. Like I don't know, I don't
[20:06] Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing. If he's a womanizer,
[20:08] Speaker 1: then he was trying to get what he can get
[20:09] Speaker 1: out of her and then had no I don't feel
[20:11] Speaker 1: like he had any intentions ever of being with her.
[20:14] Speaker 1: I think he's strong with Sierra. Yeah, he just trying
[20:17] Speaker 1: to think, especially once.
[20:18] Speaker 2: We see the clips of I mean, I don't know
[20:21] Speaker 2: if I saw this on Instagram or if this was
[20:23] Speaker 2: on the show, but.
[20:26] Speaker 3: The rook oh it was on.
[20:27] Speaker 2: They showed when they were on her break, West's girlfriend
[20:31] Speaker 2: that he had during the whole season.
[20:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, on the phone, yep, yeah, Like, don't you think
[20:36] Speaker 1: she'd be a good cast member for next season?
[20:42] Speaker 3: Why are they West isn't coming back? I want West
[20:45] Speaker 3: to be back.
[20:47] Speaker 1: I would be shocked if it wasn't back. If he
[20:49] Speaker 1: doesn't come back, it's going to be his own doing.
[20:52] Speaker 1: But if a man is with him still and that's
[20:55] Speaker 1: not gonna I don't know. I don't know what's going
[20:57] Speaker 1: to happen with Summerhouse. I don't know if the original
[20:59] Speaker 1: cruise going back or they're just splitting over to in
[21:01] Speaker 1: the city. I don't know.
[21:04] Speaker 3: I mean, do you think him and Sierra can be
[21:06] Speaker 3: in the same house?
[21:07] Speaker 1: Well, Siara did it after they broke up the first time.
[21:11] Speaker 1: I know this is worse, but they've gone through shit already. Well,
[21:15] Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reconcise. I don't think there's
[21:17] Speaker 1: even they can even be friends ever.
[21:20] Speaker 3: I don't think they will ever be friends ever. Again. No,
[21:23] Speaker 3: it's done.
[21:23] Speaker 1: It's done. Now, are you surprised that Amanda isn't trying
[21:27] Speaker 1: more to like apologize she.
[21:29] Speaker 3: I think that her and West went in with a plan.
[21:33] Speaker 2: Even when Wes says to Amanda, I wish or Amanda want,
[21:41] Speaker 2: can I say more? And She's like no, don't. Yeah,
[21:45] Speaker 2: so he wants to have her back, he wants to
[21:48] Speaker 2: help her, and she is telling him no.
[21:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:51] Speaker 1: It's a weird dynamic. I think was it Sierra that said,
[21:55] Speaker 1: or Lindsay or somebody that's like, they don't even act
[21:57] Speaker 1: like they like each other.
[21:58] Speaker 3: They don't.
[21:59] Speaker 1: It was weird display of affection, of no affection, no
[22:04] Speaker 1: standing up for each other. I mean, I don't know.
[22:06] Speaker 1: And then Amanda and West have said they talked about commitment,
[22:10] Speaker 1: which is why Amanda feels comfortable sitting next to him.
[22:13] Speaker 1: But yet you know, she goes off stage, he doesn't follow.
[22:16] Speaker 2: Her, and then they keep pushing her to pushing him
[22:20] Speaker 2: to follow her, and you could.
[22:22] Speaker 1: Tell he's like sitting there home like because like should I.
[22:25] Speaker 3: Or should I not?
[22:26] Speaker 2: But I think it's because of the plan that him
[22:28] Speaker 2: and Amanda had, which is I'm not gonna We're not
[22:30] Speaker 2: gonna go in and we're not gonna just you know,
[22:33] Speaker 2: make excuses for ourselves. And so if I get upset
[22:37] Speaker 2: and I leave, just let me go and you sit
[22:41] Speaker 2: there and answer.
[22:41] Speaker 3: The questions because he kept going no, because then there's
[22:43] Speaker 3: gonna be more questions for me. Then you guys are
[22:45] Speaker 3: gonna be mad that I left.
[22:48] Speaker 1: He's a big dodo. He's just like a dummy. Like yeah,
[22:51] Speaker 1: it's they both are playing this so wrong. I mean
[22:54] Speaker 1: Amanda goes back and lays down, puts a blanket on
[22:57] Speaker 1: and closes her eyes, and I'm like, yeah, who is
[22:59] Speaker 1: ever in their life done that at a reunion. That's
[23:01] Speaker 1: why I'm like, she's definitely took something. It's not yet round.
[23:04] Speaker 2: Well, Amanda claimed she wanted to figure out exactly what
[23:07] Speaker 2: she was getting into with West before she'd tell Sierra
[23:12] Speaker 2: no matter what, like the second you think you're getting
[23:15] Speaker 2: into something, if you really.
[23:17] Speaker 3: I mean that's why I think this up.
[23:19] Speaker 2: This scene from in the City is so crazy because
[23:24] Speaker 2: you see the three of them together holding.
[23:26] Speaker 3: Hands and yeah, I mean we can't.
[23:31] Speaker 2: Give too much away, but you see, I mean we
[23:34] Speaker 2: are in such a delulu land of what this relationship is.
[23:39] Speaker 1: I think they're still trying to figure it out. And
[23:41] Speaker 1: so Amanda, what did she say I was embarrassed to
[23:43] Speaker 1: say I had feelings for West and kissed him. I mean, because.
[23:49] Speaker 2: Well he was She was also scared that one of
[23:52] Speaker 2: the girls goes, it's really embarrassing that he had a
[23:55] Speaker 2: girlfriend and you knew about it and you're still hooking
[23:58] Speaker 2: up with him, and and she like kind of looks
[24:00] Speaker 2: down and you can tell she's ashamed. And they're like, yeah,
[24:04] Speaker 2: that is really embarrassing that you know about the girlfriend.
[24:06] Speaker 1: But do you know how some people get off on
[24:08] Speaker 1: Oh I'm in a relationship and I'm on a relationship,
[24:11] Speaker 1: but let's go sidebar and you know, have an affair
[24:14] Speaker 1: and then go back like were they like did they
[24:17] Speaker 1: get off on that?
[24:19] Speaker 3: I don't think they got off truthfully.
[24:21] Speaker 2: I think that Amanda and I'm.
[24:26] Speaker 3: Not like team Amanda.
[24:27] Speaker 2: Now.
[24:27] Speaker 3: I've just been watching more and more things like trying
[24:31] Speaker 3: to just dissect the situation.
[24:32] Speaker 2: And believe me, guys, I don't need to fucking hear it.
[24:35] Speaker 2: I'm not a perfect person. I've never claimed to be.
[24:38] Speaker 1: Nobody is. And I will say this, Yes, what Amanda
[24:43] Speaker 1: did was bad, but we don't have to beat her
[24:47] Speaker 1: to death about it. Yeah, I mean, we just don't
[24:51] Speaker 1: like and do you feel And this is probably unpopular opinion, Sierra,
[24:58] Speaker 1: any chance she has, she's just gonna fucking point it. Like,
[25:02] Speaker 1: you know, like when she goes, I thought you didn't
[25:06] Speaker 1: like going out like that, Like she's like making.
[25:09] Speaker 2: Fun of her, and it's like and then she goes,
[25:13] Speaker 2: I just don't like going out of Kyle.
[25:15] Speaker 3: But before we even get to that, what about when Lindsay.
[25:17] Speaker 2: I think Lindsay's really right when she's like, this is
[25:20] Speaker 2: Amanda's first time in the hot seat and she needs
[25:23] Speaker 2: to stay there and do her job.
[25:25] Speaker 1: But Lindsay also like she cares enough for her where
[25:28] Speaker 1: she said like she kind of wanted to go after
[25:30] Speaker 1: her to make sure she was okay.
[25:33] Speaker 3: I think they all care about her.
[25:34] Speaker 2: I think they all know what she's been living through
[25:38] Speaker 2: the last ten years.
[25:40] Speaker 3: And I think, yes, all of a sudden.
[25:42] Speaker 2: Now we all, you know, we feel for Kyle, and
[25:45] Speaker 2: but we're just we're putting on blinders to what we've
[25:48] Speaker 2: been seeing happen throughout the relationship.
[25:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, she left, she went back to
[25:55] Speaker 1: her dressing room. Andy had said on his radio show
[25:58] Speaker 1: that she was gone for twenty minutes.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Then he's actually getting annoyed this is the first time
[26:03] Speaker 2: you see him start to like get annoyed. He's like, yeah,
[26:05] Speaker 2: I mean I can't you hear him like talking into
[26:08] Speaker 2: his little like headset, and he's like, you know, I
[26:11] Speaker 2: don't even know what to do. What question should I ask?
[26:13] Speaker 2: Because Amanda keeps leaving it? This is a long break.
[26:16] Speaker 2: Do we take an actual break?
[26:17] Speaker 1: Yeah? Well kayak Kyle having to tell Wes like go
[26:21] Speaker 1: after her, make sure she's okay. And then we see
[26:24] Speaker 1: later on like Kyle's like, I'll go after her, like
[26:28] Speaker 1: I'll go make sure she's okay. Yeah, and he's like, oh, nope, nope,
[26:33] Speaker 1: she's on her way back. She's on her way back.
[26:34] Speaker 2: She's on her way back. But I mean West ends
[26:37] Speaker 2: up going in to check on her. But you can
[26:40] Speaker 2: tell she doesn't want him to. She wants him to
[26:43] Speaker 2: stay out there. She wants I think she was really
[26:47] Speaker 2: hoping for herself, she could come out and stand up
[26:50] Speaker 2: for herself.
[26:51] Speaker 3: And I don't think it had it.
[26:52] Speaker 2: And then I'm sorry, I don't think it had anything
[26:54] Speaker 2: to do with Siera. I think it had to do
[26:57] Speaker 2: with years and years of a dysfunctional marriage with Kyle.
[27:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she they get into it I mean,
[27:04] Speaker 1: we've seen it this. If she didn't start dating Wes,
[27:07] Speaker 1: this would have a whole different outcome.
[27:09] Speaker 3: This would be a completely different outcome.
[27:11] Speaker 1: iiO would be in the hot seat because the way
[27:13] Speaker 1: he treated her all year and you know, shadows everything.
[27:18] Speaker 2: This completely overshadows everything. Andy ends up telling everybody to
[27:23] Speaker 2: take a break because he's like, you know, I can't
[27:25] Speaker 2: even do this right now. Kyle's most worried about Wes's
[27:29] Speaker 2: ability to lie. They know for a fact he was
[27:33] Speaker 2: in an exclusive relationship since February twenty twenty five.
[27:36] Speaker 1: I feel like I need one of the you know, the.
[27:38] Speaker 2: Like motivational speakers that have like these calendars that are
[27:42] Speaker 2: like are full, like year long, and they're like bigger
[27:44] Speaker 2: than a bedroom.
[27:45] Speaker 3: I feel like I need that to really grasp It's.
[27:48] Speaker 1: Like with the FBI, she was with him and all
[27:51] Speaker 1: the lines and all that stuff on a whiteboard. Do
[27:54] Speaker 1: you think that Amana knew that how exclusive Wes was
[27:58] Speaker 1: with Mi? Huh?
[27:59] Speaker 3: Yes, I think one hundred percent.
[28:01] Speaker 2: I think I think that West is going to do
[28:07] Speaker 2: what West wants to do. I think what Wes is
[28:09] Speaker 2: doing what Amanda is doing are two totally different things. Yeah,
[28:13] Speaker 2: I think West cares for Amanda. I think, you know what,
[28:19] Speaker 2: they may or may not end up together.
[28:21] Speaker 3: Who knows. I have absolutely no idea.
[28:23] Speaker 1: I think think public perception is going to break them up.
[28:26] Speaker 1: If anything, it'll break them up, or he's going to
[28:29] Speaker 1: I don't think they care. I don't think they don't
[28:31] Speaker 1: think they care. I think they're trying to do a
[28:34] Speaker 1: good job. It's not even a good job at the
[28:36] Speaker 1: reunion of making people think that they're not one person
[28:41] Speaker 1: and they have their own thoughts. And she's not going
[28:43] Speaker 1: to protect me, and she's not gonna protect him.
[28:45] Speaker 2: And no, I think they're in a codependent, like dysfunctional
[28:50] Speaker 2: relationship that they're both you know, he's he's just doing
[28:55] Speaker 2: what he does, and she has just been so hurt
[28:58] Speaker 2: for so long. She is just grappling at the idea
[29:03] Speaker 2: of having somebody she can hold on to. After they
[29:06] Speaker 2: take a break, Darre joins she doesn't see West magically changing.
[29:12] Speaker 1: At this point.
[29:12] Speaker 2: I had had, like I had I don't know if
[29:14] Speaker 2: I had pretend to amnesia, but I had forgotten that.
[29:17] Speaker 1: They did me too. They dated, So I'm like, they
[29:20] Speaker 1: do they dated?
[29:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And she's like, you know, he wants the
[29:27] Speaker 2: world to receive him as a good guy, but he
[29:29] Speaker 2: treats womens as if they're expendable.
[29:31] Speaker 3: I think she's actually the one that speaks.
[29:33] Speaker 2: About him the best of anyone, because it doesn't seem
[29:36] Speaker 2: like she is anger.
[29:37] Speaker 1: How long has did she date him? Did we ever
[29:39] Speaker 1: find out?
[29:40] Speaker 3: I mean maybe as long as he dated Miha?
[29:43] Speaker 1: Nobody else how long that is either, But don't worry.
[29:46] Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna see a lot more Miha.
[29:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, demand is still not back. Twenty minutes not back.
[29:53] Speaker 3: So he's taken a full break.
[29:55] Speaker 1: I'll break Andy pivots to Ben kJ and Jesse next.
[30:00] Speaker 1: He's like, I just got to move this along. Ben
[30:02] Speaker 1: took Sabrina to visit his parents in Australia. We're not
[30:05] Speaker 1: going to get Sabrina on the reunion, are we.
[30:08] Speaker 2: The fact that Levi was on this reunion just to
[30:11] Speaker 2: come out and sit in that dress for two minutes,
[30:13] Speaker 2: I know, is unbelievable.
[30:16] Speaker 1: Actually mean, honestly, you clear the whole day out, you
[30:20] Speaker 1: get out there. They did that to Taylor Armstrong on
[30:23] Speaker 1: our show, like she was a friend of She came
[30:25] Speaker 1: out and it was literally twenty minutes.
[30:27] Speaker 3: Once he's pivoted.
[30:30] Speaker 2: Ben took then you know, Ben talks about taking Sabrina
[30:33] Speaker 2: to see his parents.
[30:34] Speaker 1: And then she mended the relationship between him and his father.
[30:38] Speaker 1: He didn't have a relationship with his dad, she said.
[30:41] Speaker 1: And then now since he was a teenager and now
[30:43] Speaker 1: they've made up. So I guess that's a that's a
[30:45] Speaker 1: good thing.
[30:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess every morning and every night she
[30:53] Speaker 2: would give his father a hug, and then by the
[30:55] Speaker 2: end they touched elbows and then they hugged. We hear
[30:58] Speaker 2: this whole story, which all this does for me, unfortunately,
[31:03] Speaker 2: gives me red flags for them because if she's really trying,
[31:08] Speaker 2: Like if you think that you're going to be able
[31:11] Speaker 2: to fix every relationship that your significant other has had
[31:16] Speaker 2: issues with, ye, you're in for a real fucking root awakening. Yeah,
[31:21] Speaker 2: and then you're gonna put so much stress and pressure
[31:24] Speaker 2: on yourself that you can't fix everything for that person.
[31:28] Speaker 2: And you've seen her and you've seen him. He's been
[31:30] Speaker 2: dismissive of her. I mean, granted, now he's loved bombing
[31:34] Speaker 2: her talking about oh, I've never had loved anyone more
[31:36] Speaker 2: than her, But like we have to realize she was
[31:40] Speaker 2: there the whole time.
[31:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be shocked if they stay together. Yeah, I'll
[31:45] Speaker 1: be shocked.
[31:46] Speaker 2: Then, after Amanda comes back, the entire group wants Dare
[31:51] Speaker 2: to tell her perspective on West, how he always wants
[31:55] Speaker 2: it to be the West Show and he wants a
[31:57] Speaker 2: woman to mold to that. Amanda comes back and is like, Dara,
[32:04] Speaker 2: we're gonna need you to perform again because I missed
[32:07] Speaker 2: it the last time and I only saw it on
[32:09] Speaker 2: the small screen, So bring it on up again.
[32:12] Speaker 3: Let's see what you got.
[32:14] Speaker 2: Andy admits it would be iconic for Amanda to go
[32:17] Speaker 2: from The Kyle Show to the West Show.
[32:21] Speaker 1: Ibout Kyle going, Hey, I wasn't that bad? That bad?
[32:27] Speaker 1: I'm like, did you not watch yourself this season? Kyle? Yes,
[32:31] Speaker 1: it was bad? Kyle?
[32:33] Speaker 3: Were you not there for the last ten years?
[32:37] Speaker 1: I mean when Sierra's reaction when Dara reads West for
[32:40] Speaker 1: filth was everything, and even Andy was kind of like
[32:44] Speaker 1: smirking at Darah reading West. I mean it was kind
[32:47] Speaker 1: of like Andy turns his attention over to Jesse and
[32:58] Speaker 1: his complicated feelings towards Siara. The summer Now, Jesse clarifies
[33:02] Speaker 1: that his song about falling for your best friend was
[33:06] Speaker 1: not about Sarah or West and Amanda. He said he filmed,
[33:09] Speaker 1: he recorded that a long time ago. And then there's
[33:12] Speaker 1: a good old Kyle who jumps in and goes, well,
[33:15] Speaker 1: it's not really well perceived on social media. Yeah, now, dude,
[33:20] Speaker 1: say less, say less.
[33:23] Speaker 3: And I mean he's also very emotional. Yeah, he's very emotional.
[33:31] Speaker 1: To remember, they shared rooms like they were best buds,
[33:35] Speaker 1: West and Jesse. So now it's like he knows, like
[33:39] Speaker 1: I I'm cutting him off. Everybody hates him. I can't
[33:42] Speaker 1: hang out with my best friend anymore.
[33:44] Speaker 2: I'm curious he's going to it's it's it's he's going
[33:48] Speaker 2: to end up if West is back.
[33:51] Speaker 3: Guaranteed those guys are still friends.
[33:52] Speaker 1: Tell me, how the hell are they going to film
[33:56] Speaker 1: Summerhouse with West and Amanda. Nobody will give them the
[34:00] Speaker 1: time of day. There would have to be a talking
[34:02] Speaker 1: to going listen, So Ensembill cask get into it. You
[34:07] Speaker 1: can't ignore them, I mean, and Amanda is she gonna
[34:11] Speaker 1: want to come back to that she get annihilated.
[34:15] Speaker 2: Well, she's not gonna want to leave West by himself,
[34:17] Speaker 2: that's for damn sure.
[34:19] Speaker 3: I mean, think.
[34:19] Speaker 2: About what Wes did to mih with that other chick
[34:24] Speaker 2: when he was like canoodling her.
[34:25] Speaker 3: Remember when they were at.
[34:26] Speaker 2: The party at the house and he's like making out
[34:29] Speaker 2: with the random girl mih existed then too. Yeah, I
[34:34] Speaker 2: feel like Jesse is turning into the Taylor Swift a summerhouse.
[34:37] Speaker 1: Well, and then Sierra is saying Amanda and West can
[34:40] Speaker 1: play Jesse's song at their wedding, like she doesn't miss
[34:42] Speaker 1: an opportunity to put a job in there. And then
[34:44] Speaker 1: at one point I'm like, Okay, maybe enough of the jobs,
[34:47] Speaker 1: Like I know you're mad.
[34:48] Speaker 3: We all know mad.
[34:49] Speaker 1: They're getting beat up, like maybe not.
[34:51] Speaker 2: So many, maybe not so many, and maybe like you
[34:56] Speaker 2: do you truly care? Do you really love West? Did
[35:00] Speaker 2: you really think that West was going to like because
[35:04] Speaker 2: Amanda and Sierra are two very different people. Yeah, yeah,
[35:09] Speaker 2: So I'm really wondering, like how much Sierra was actually
[35:16] Speaker 2: because the way that Sierra and West communicated during in
[35:20] Speaker 2: the City, which is in between this time, there was.
[35:24] Speaker 3: No flirtation there. I didn't feel a connection.
[35:27] Speaker 1: Huh No, not like we did. It's a little confusing,
[35:31] Speaker 1: Like I've even seen people post and this was not
[35:35] Speaker 1: a favorable opinion, But what is she so mad? At
[35:38] Speaker 1: West for they dated for a short time two years ago,
[35:41] Speaker 1: and it gets people thinking, hmm, well, I don't think
[35:44] Speaker 1: it's West. I think it's Amanda. She's she probably just
[35:48] Speaker 1: thinks West's a piece of shit and move on. But
[35:51] Speaker 1: I think Amanda is the one that really broke her heart.
[35:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:55] Speaker 2: I think Amanda definitely broke her heart. I think because
[35:57] Speaker 2: Amanda was there for her.
[35:59] Speaker 3: But I think is she's not capable.
[36:04] Speaker 2: She's physically and mentally not capable to leave Kyle on
[36:09] Speaker 2: her own.
[36:10] Speaker 3: I don't think she is. I just don't. I don't
[36:14] Speaker 3: believe it.
[36:14] Speaker 2: So but either way, Then Carl gets into talking about
[36:17] Speaker 2: the soft Bar, which has been open for seven months now.
[36:22] Speaker 1: Finger clapsinger claps.
[36:26] Speaker 2: Carl and Lindsay seem to be in a really great
[36:28] Speaker 2: place back together. I would love that, But no, I
[36:32] Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna get back together, but they're.
[36:34] Speaker 3: Definitely Like they did a podcast together.
[36:37] Speaker 1: Did you catch Lindsay said Carl is the person now
[36:39] Speaker 1: who he's always meant to be or is that meant
[36:43] Speaker 1: to be or who she wanted him to be?
[36:45] Speaker 2: And he pretty much said, like I took a lot
[36:49] Speaker 2: of advice from from Lindsay and that's how I got
[36:54] Speaker 2: to where I am today.
[36:55] Speaker 3: I mean, I think you can't almost marry somebody.
[36:58] Speaker 1: Do you think they're chet cheap banging just for fun? No,
[37:02] Speaker 1: I don't think they're banging it. But I could see them.
[37:06] Speaker 1: We're going to see him in the summerhouse, canodling in
[37:08] Speaker 1: bed together.
[37:09] Speaker 3: Are they going to take the primary bedroom?
[37:11] Speaker 1: Who knows? But I mean, stranger events have happened. When
[37:17] Speaker 1: you think about this. They were engaged, they broke up,
[37:19] Speaker 1: she got pregnant with somebody else, they broke up, and
[37:22] Speaker 1: now they're back together. Could you imagine Carl raising her
[37:25] Speaker 1: helping to raise her baby. That's a reality show in
[37:28] Speaker 1: itself right there.
[37:30] Speaker 3: Well, I mean it saved them some trouble.
[37:32] Speaker 2: They you know, like they didn't have to worry about
[37:34] Speaker 2: the fertility. They got things going there.
[37:36] Speaker 1: And now Carl is the man that he should have
[37:38] Speaker 1: always been, and that makes him more appealing to her.
[37:41] Speaker 3: So who knows he I mean, he does make her smile.
[37:45] Speaker 1: I know, they look really cute together lately.
[37:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, and then but then Carl Nthy made the Carl's
[37:51] Speaker 2: Mess video, which essentially monetized Can you explain this.
[37:55] Speaker 1: To me because I don't I didn't know anything about it.
[37:57] Speaker 1: When they said that, I'm like, Carl's a mess.
[38:01] Speaker 3: It was for an Uber Eats ad.
[38:03] Speaker 1: So they did Uber Eat ad together and Lindsay says,
[38:09] Speaker 1: Carl's a mess.
[38:10] Speaker 3: Carl's a mess.
[38:11] Speaker 2: But it's just like because there was the one time
[38:14] Speaker 2: that Kyle was doing his street interview.
[38:19] Speaker 3: And every remember.
[38:21] Speaker 2: When they're like, he does that extra long street interview,
[38:24] Speaker 2: you know that goes on and on and he's essentially
[38:26] Speaker 2: standing there. I think he's with one of his dogs,
[38:29] Speaker 2: and he just gives every he thinks it's his own
[38:31] Speaker 2: reunion on the street with his paparazzi, and he said,
[38:36] Speaker 2: you know, he's like, I mean everyone's this that that
[38:38] Speaker 2: he's talking about everyone.
[38:39] Speaker 3: He's like, Carl's a mess.
[38:41] Speaker 2: And so they utilize that to make a video, I mean,
[38:48] Speaker 2: to make a commercial and monetize it. And so then
[38:53] Speaker 2: they act.
[38:54] Speaker 3: This is where Amanda really fucks up though.
[38:57] Speaker 1: Then they they when she says, yeah, she's like, I
[39:01] Speaker 1: would never do that. I would never do that. While
[39:06] Speaker 1: they were breaking up, Yeah you would.
[39:09] Speaker 3: I never would have put them in that situation.
[39:12] Speaker 2: I'm like, please stop, and like if Sierra and Kyle
[39:17] Speaker 2: don't care that they did this video then Amanda neither
[39:21] Speaker 2: should you.
[39:22] Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say that Amanda has lost that
[39:25] Speaker 1: right after sleeping with West.
[39:29] Speaker 3: I mean, they'd be idiots not to monetize it.
[39:32] Speaker 1: Remember when Laala monetized something like something about Darryl, like
[39:37] Speaker 1: oh yeah, Darryl or something like that, and she was
[39:40] Speaker 1: selling t shirts or.
[39:41] Speaker 3: Send it to Darryl Ryl.
[39:43] Speaker 2: And there was even a truck like ice cream crop
[39:46] Speaker 2: that drove around la that said Darryl.
[39:51] Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't think it was a big thing.
[39:53] Speaker 3: But I don't know why.
[39:55] Speaker 2: Like she her moments she picks to say something, our
[39:59] Speaker 2: moments were She's definitely not going to win in the conversation.
[40:04] Speaker 1: Oh God.
[40:05] Speaker 2: Then Andy asked West about the moment he moved his
[40:08] Speaker 2: chair over to Amanda during her fight with Kyle. He
[40:12] Speaker 2: says Kyle's anger was misdirected towards Amanda and he was
[40:15] Speaker 2: acting like a dickhead.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Well said, he moved his chair closer to Amanda to
[40:19] Speaker 1: let her know he had her back against Kyle. That's
[40:24] Speaker 1: just like, dude, just don't get involved. And that right
[40:27] Speaker 1: there tells me there was some kind of emotional or
[40:30] Speaker 1: if not physical shit going on. At that point because
[40:34] Speaker 1: Kyle's his bro, Like he could easily say like, hey, Kyle,
[40:38] Speaker 1: like Okay, just calm down, or maybe he did, I
[40:40] Speaker 1: don't remember, but pulling it up like next to her.
[40:44] Speaker 2: He I mean he did say to her, to Kyle,
[40:48] Speaker 2: you know, you're talking to Lindsey, but you're looking at
[40:51] Speaker 2: Amanda mm hmm. And that's when he's like, you know,
[40:56] Speaker 2: fuck you, Like he says fuck you to Amanda. I mean,
[40:59] Speaker 2: but you have to understand they've had a whole summer
[41:01] Speaker 2: of this. I think at this point they're not in
[41:05] Speaker 2: a relationship. But I do think that West is starting
[41:08] Speaker 2: to want.
[41:08] Speaker 1: To protect Okay, do you think this Maybe Wes was
[41:12] Speaker 1: siding with Amanda and defending her because he thought she
[41:16] Speaker 1: was going to have the Ariana Maddox moment at the
[41:19] Speaker 1: end of the season, and he likes that clout.
[41:22] Speaker 3: I don't think West is that smart. Yeah, true, I
[41:25] Speaker 3: really don't.
[41:25] Speaker 2: I know that people keep saying that, but like, I
[41:28] Speaker 2: really think Wes just wants people to like him, and
[41:31] Speaker 2: he thinks in the moment and.
[41:33] Speaker 3: He doesn't think about anything else.
[41:35] Speaker 2: I think even when it comes to when they're talking
[41:37] Speaker 2: about the confessional where the day after Amanda gets the Cardier.
[41:43] Speaker 3: Watch and.
[41:46] Speaker 2: Kyle calls her fucking dumbass bitch, and then West compares
[41:50] Speaker 2: him to the Wolf of Wall Street, and then he's like,
[41:54] Speaker 2: you know, West immediately comes out and apologizes. He's like,
[41:57] Speaker 2: you know what, I went too far with that. So
[41:59] Speaker 2: I think in high insight he realized he went too far.
[42:01] Speaker 3: He did.
[42:02] Speaker 2: But then that's when we start getting more into like
[42:05] Speaker 2: the crux of the relationship between Kyle and We're no
[42:09] Speaker 2: longer talking about West. We're talking about Kyle and Amanda, and.
[42:14] Speaker 1: Kyle's sleeping over at fans houses like that's.
[42:19] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's not one like I have. You know,
[42:23] Speaker 2: there was times in my relationship where my significant other
[42:29] Speaker 2: did not come home.
[42:30] Speaker 1: Oh god, I've never had that.
[42:32] Speaker 2: And I am here to tell you I do not
[42:34] Speaker 2: for one second think he accidentally fell asleep somewhere.
[42:39] Speaker 3: No, I don't need well, I would never believe that
[42:42] Speaker 3: for a second.
[42:44] Speaker 2: I'm not saying I didn't do wrong things in the marriage,
[42:46] Speaker 2: but I would never so anybody that's like I mean,
[42:49] Speaker 2: and for Kyle to be.
[42:51] Speaker 3: Like, whoa, you know, I didn't have any attention from her.
[42:54] Speaker 2: She was supposed to come to the club with me,
[42:56] Speaker 2: but she didn't want to, so then I just decided
[42:59] Speaker 2: to not come home at all.
[43:01] Speaker 1: Their relationship got so bad, and this is the part
[43:03] Speaker 1: that I you know, people are like, oh, somebody's like
[43:06] Speaker 1: she's hypocritical. She never wanted to go out. Well, like
[43:09] Speaker 1: she clarified that if you're in a bad relationship and
[43:12] Speaker 1: this guy's going out and partying and you're not having
[43:13] Speaker 1: fun with them, She's like, I didn't I hate it
[43:16] Speaker 1: going out with Kyle. I didn't want to go out
[43:18] Speaker 1: with him at all.
[43:19] Speaker 2: And if he was flirting with other girls in front
[43:21] Speaker 2: of her, who knows what he's doing?
[43:22] Speaker 1: H Yeah, So like I don't blame her that for that,
[43:25] Speaker 1: and I don't think she's hypocritical. Also, when you do separate,
[43:29] Speaker 1: what are you gonna do laying bed all the time,
[43:32] Speaker 1: like you.
[43:32] Speaker 3: Gotta do you think that? Do you think that West
[43:34] Speaker 3: is just Kyle? Two point zero?
[43:38] Speaker 1: I think that Wes is worse than Kyle. I don't
[43:40] Speaker 1: think Kyle's a bad person. I think that he was
[43:42] Speaker 1: put in a he was in a bad marriage and
[43:45] Speaker 1: they weren't happy, and if he wasn't having sex for
[43:49] Speaker 1: the entire marriage, he gonna go out he's gonna want
[43:53] Speaker 1: to feel needed and wanted. I don't know why they
[43:56] Speaker 1: stuck it out for so long. If it was bad,
[43:59] Speaker 1: I mean the beginning.
[44:01] Speaker 2: But the fact that he's even using that as his reasoning,
[44:06] Speaker 2: like no, grow, pair and lever. Then how old is
[44:09] Speaker 2: West He's early thirties. Okay, he's very very, very immature.
[44:14] Speaker 2: And you know, Kyle's forty four. He's had life experiences. Yes,
[44:19] Speaker 2: maybe obviously he's done some shit wrong. He's been in
[44:21] Speaker 2: a bad relationship. But I think he's a good guy.
[44:24] Speaker 2: He's a good guy. I think he wanted his marriage
[44:26] Speaker 2: to work. He tried to make it work, but he
[44:28] Speaker 2: was just at the end lost his mind. But also
[44:31] Speaker 2: was going through his business, you know, not doing well.
[44:34] Speaker 2: That's not easy either for a man. I mean, I
[44:37] Speaker 2: am not going to put it by Kyle that I
[44:40] Speaker 2: think that he probably cheated on Amanda a million times. Yeah,
[44:45] Speaker 2: I think I would think that every time that he
[44:47] Speaker 2: didn't come home, or every time, like, I don't think
[44:50] Speaker 2: you just pass out because you're so drunk, And even
[44:53] Speaker 2: when Carl tries to step in and he's like, you know,
[44:56] Speaker 2: I was with him a lot between twenty twenty two
[44:58] Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four, and I never saw him making
[45:01] Speaker 2: out with girls.
[45:02] Speaker 1: Like yeah, like he's gonna.
[45:03] Speaker 2: Say that, like really please, and like you're not sleeping
[45:06] Speaker 2: at the houses you don't know, but if somebody, if
[45:09] Speaker 2: your husband is willing to sleep at somebody else's home.
[45:12] Speaker 3: We'll fight with you.
[45:14] Speaker 1: A fan, no, regardless if it's a fan or what.
[45:18] Speaker 3: You would be mad at Eddie if he wouldn't call
[45:20] Speaker 3: you his best friend's house.
[45:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, if he didn't call you to tell you he
[45:25] Speaker 2: was coming home.
[45:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. But Amanda did clear it up and said, basically,
[45:29] Speaker 1: you know, I hated going out with Kyle, and Kyle
[45:32] Speaker 1: kind of got like, you know, emotional about it. And
[45:36] Speaker 1: then it's the first time I feel that we saw
[45:39] Speaker 1: Kyle get heated. And he's like, give me a break.
[45:43] Speaker 1: This kid parties twice as hard as I do. And
[45:46] Speaker 1: I say, kid, because you are the most immature, fraudulent
[45:50] Speaker 1: phony I've ever met, shut the fuck up. It is
[45:53] Speaker 1: the first time we've actually seen Kyle like get emotional on.
[45:56] Speaker 2: Yell and then he kind of says like fuck you,
[46:00] Speaker 2: or I think she does also to Amanda.
[46:04] Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, I didn't catch Teres said that
[46:06] Speaker 1: to Amanda.
[46:07] Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when Amanda said that she didn't like
[46:11] Speaker 2: going out with Kyle, she's like, it's not that I
[46:14] Speaker 2: don't like going out.
[46:15] Speaker 3: I didn't like going out with him. That's goddess thing.
[46:19] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, for sure, but I mean the entire time,
[46:24] Speaker 1: you know, Kyle knows that one of his friend's ex
[46:27] Speaker 1: friends is with his wife. And yes, Amanda, you're still married.
[46:31] Speaker 1: She keeps saying she's not married, but also I.
[46:35] Speaker 2: Am married, But would you say that I'm married? Like, yes,
[46:38] Speaker 2: I'm married, but like.
[46:40] Speaker 1: This is a lot fresher than yours. Like this you're
[46:43] Speaker 1: a year and a half into it, like they're filming
[46:46] Speaker 1: I still right.
[46:47] Speaker 2: Now, Like I don't even know what to say because
[46:49] Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, my husband separated. I guess you're separated,
[46:53] Speaker 2: but I'm not really. Yeah, there's nothing in writing. Well
[46:57] Speaker 2: he's got a girlfriend. I'm pretty sure you're separated. Yeah,
[46:59] Speaker 2: I mean, but it's not writing. But you're still married.
[47:02] Speaker 3: I feel like we really are like pulling hairs.
[47:05] Speaker 1: Yes, nobody's going to we're not together. Not many people
[47:09] Speaker 1: will leave a relationship go Sometimes divorces take two or
[47:13] Speaker 1: three years and not go out with anybody. Rarely does
[47:17] Speaker 1: that happen.
[47:18] Speaker 2: So I think them pretending that she wasn't going to
[47:21] Speaker 2: go out, that she wasn't going to try to fill
[47:23] Speaker 2: her time.
[47:24] Speaker 1: They were to Shather for business reasons they were on
[47:26] Speaker 1: the show. I think they're worried if they separated during
[47:30] Speaker 1: the show, what was that going to do to their paycheck?
[47:33] Speaker 2: I mean, I think there wouldn't have been a show
[47:35] Speaker 2: without the two of them together.
[47:37] Speaker 1: Well, it would have been this years ago. Yeah. True.
[47:49] Speaker 2: Kyle clarifies that he and Amanda split the day they
[47:52] Speaker 2: put out their statement January nineteenth, twenty twenty six.
[47:56] Speaker 3: I love that Kyle's like, we called my mom because
[47:58] Speaker 3: she's an English teacher.
[48:00] Speaker 1: That was funny, smart, he didn't call chat GPT.
[48:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[48:06] Speaker 2: And then I love that Amanda went to Bravo PR
[48:09] Speaker 2: about the statement before she went to Kyle.
[48:11] Speaker 1: Okay, so I would never go to Bravo PR. Ever,
[48:16] Speaker 1: I just think that's weird, that's very showy. You're doing
[48:20] Speaker 1: this for public reasons, this is your private life, Like
[48:23] Speaker 1: you're gonna call Bravo PR and say I'm gonna put
[48:26] Speaker 1: this statement out, Like no.
[48:27] Speaker 2: I think She's like, listen, I'm keeping my job. I'm
[48:31] Speaker 2: not going to get fired over this. But I'm done
[48:33] Speaker 2: with this man. Because if she would have just put
[48:36] Speaker 2: something out and not told Bravo first.
[48:39] Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, Bravo would be calling her right away.
[48:41] Speaker 1: Producer would be calling her right away and go, oh
[48:42] Speaker 1: my god, what is going on?
[48:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know she wanted she wanted Brava
[48:47] Speaker 2: to no, But then I thought it was bizarre that
[48:50] Speaker 2: Kyle she.
[48:50] Speaker 1: Welcomed to know or did she want to run her
[48:52] Speaker 1: statement by them?
[48:54] Speaker 2: I think she wanted to give them a heads up,
[48:56] Speaker 2: like this is going to come out before the new
[48:58] Speaker 2: season airs.
[48:58] Speaker 1: Okay, that makes more sense. Then Oh, here's my statement.
[49:01] Speaker 1: Would he like, do you need to rewrite it for me? Like,
[49:04] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[49:05] Speaker 3: No, I think she was done.
[49:06] Speaker 2: I think this might have been when she was scared
[49:08] Speaker 2: things were going to come out faster than they did.
[49:11] Speaker 2: So first she had to get her statement out with
[49:14] Speaker 2: Kyle before she put her statement out with West.
[49:17] Speaker 1: Well, so that there's a month in between the statements, right,
[49:20] Speaker 1: wasn't one January and then Kyle and Amanda's January? Then
[49:23] Speaker 1: West and Amanda's was February. Yeah, you're going to tell
[49:27] Speaker 1: me within one month that You're like yep, this is
[49:30] Speaker 1: my guy without being with him for months.
[49:33] Speaker 3: But this is also what I don't understand.
[49:36] Speaker 2: Kyle says that he had his parents didn't even know
[49:39] Speaker 2: they were going to be splitting up. They didn't even
[49:41] Speaker 2: know anything like so this entire time they why they
[49:44] Speaker 2: are not living together. Kyle's had no conversations with his
[49:48] Speaker 2: family that I think we're not making up.
[49:50] Speaker 1: There was a a conversation he had with his mom.
[49:55] Speaker 1: It was at the end of summer house or was
[49:56] Speaker 1: it on in the city. I don't think it's always
[49:58] Speaker 1: under right now. I don't like them going back back
[50:00] Speaker 1: like that. It's like confusing what happened on what show.
[50:04] Speaker 1: He did have a you know, an open conversation with
[50:07] Speaker 1: his mom and she was crying at that point.
[50:10] Speaker 2: But I mean, he says on the reunion they didn't
[50:14] Speaker 2: he didn't even have a chance to tell his parents
[50:16] Speaker 2: before the statement went up.
[50:18] Speaker 3: We are a month off.
[50:21] Speaker 2: West and Amanda did their statement end of March, got
[50:24] Speaker 2: into February.
[50:25] Speaker 1: Okay, so they fell in love in two months?
[50:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, so they I mean, I think clearly we all know.
[50:33] Speaker 1: Well and Kyle does admit that he was inappropriate during
[50:37] Speaker 1: their marriage, but he never had an affair. Amanda says,
[50:41] Speaker 1: he stepped out in the marriage, and then there's comments
[50:44] Speaker 1: that he made out with somebody, and I think it
[50:46] Speaker 1: was Mio that said that's cheating. Yeah, that's no cheating, and.
[50:51] Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, thank you, thank you for saying that.
[50:53] Speaker 1: Oh, he was so annoyed. And I mean, if you're
[50:55] Speaker 1: making out with somebody, it was Dailey. And then Amanda's
[51:00] Speaker 1: still chose to forgive him and stay with him. So,
[51:03] Speaker 1: I mean this marriage was doomed.
[51:05] Speaker 3: We all know that.
[51:06] Speaker 1: Then Kyle says he didn't sleep with Sally from Southern Charm,
[51:10] Speaker 1: but the girls point out that he did make out
[51:13] Speaker 1: with her because they saw it. Yeah, and then there
[51:17] Speaker 1: was the Megan King that came out where he was
[51:19] Speaker 1: on a stick tiptoes and he I don't think anything
[51:22] Speaker 1: happened between them those two. I think he was they
[51:25] Speaker 1: were just trauma bonding over their divorces.
[51:28] Speaker 2: And I think they gave each other a kiss goodbye.
[51:30] Speaker 2: They she got all excited that she saw someone from
[51:33] Speaker 2: the Bravo world started.
[51:34] Speaker 3: Chatting with him.
[51:35] Speaker 2: I mean, we saw when she came over and had
[51:38] Speaker 2: like a fake relationship with someone from the Bachelor.
[51:42] Speaker 3: Like, I think, are you kidding.
[51:45] Speaker 2: You don't remember at the iHeart event when she came
[51:48] Speaker 2: with the guy from the Bachelor.
[51:50] Speaker 1: I don't watch a Bachelor, so it doesn't mean anything
[51:52] Speaker 1: to me.
[51:53] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. And they pretended that they were a couple.
[51:57] Speaker 3: I can't. Oh no, I don't remember that it was such.
[52:01] Speaker 2: And then like a week later, they released a statement
[52:04] Speaker 2: that they were never a couple.
[52:05] Speaker 3: They just went to.
[52:06] Speaker 1: Stop with the statements people.
[52:08] Speaker 3: I can't.
[52:10] Speaker 2: But I mean, I think it's clear whether Kyle. I
[52:15] Speaker 2: think Kyle, whether we're gonna, you know, poke holes in
[52:19] Speaker 2: this story or not. Kyle I do not think was
[52:21] Speaker 2: faithful to Amanda. No. Do I think that Amanda handled
[52:25] Speaker 2: the way that she ended their relationship correctly?
[52:27] Speaker 3: Do I think that you heard her friend? Yes? Do
[52:31] Speaker 3: I think that she probably hates herself right now? Yes?
[52:37] Speaker 1: It'll be I mean, time's gonna tell a lot. It's
[52:39] Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see, like do they stick together?
[52:43] Speaker 1: Is he gonna cheat on her? Like there's so much
[52:46] Speaker 1: in the air, Like it's just.
[52:49] Speaker 3: I think they're trauma bonded for a little bit.
[52:52] Speaker 1: What if the fuck is he trauma bonding over?
[52:55] Speaker 2: I thought, boy, Well, I think he's trauma because he is.
[53:00] Speaker 2: You know, this is now his third time being on
[53:03] Speaker 2: the show doing the wrong fucking thing, saying the wrong thing,
[53:08] Speaker 2: pissing off the wrong people, And I think he wanted
[53:14] Speaker 2: to come in and be her hero.
[53:15] Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about him for a minutes. So the
[53:18] Speaker 1: Andy goes on a break for lunch Amanda. They go
[53:21] Speaker 1: into the dressing room. Amanda is complains to West, everybody's
[53:26] Speaker 1: making her feel stupid for trusting him. Well, did she
[53:30] Speaker 1: not expect that? Like?
[53:32] Speaker 3: Duh?
[53:32] Speaker 1: Like, we've seen his history. He had a girlfriend when
[53:37] Speaker 1: he started dating you. He was making out with cr
[53:40] Speaker 1: when he had this girlfriend. He like, He's how many.
[53:43] Speaker 3: Chances I want to go?
[53:44] Speaker 2: Like, I don't forget past history. I remember season one
[53:48] Speaker 2: of Summerhouse when Amanda would come over at three in
[53:53] Speaker 2: the morning.
[53:54] Speaker 3: To hook up with Kyle. Did he have after after Kyle?
[53:59] Speaker 2: There was more ultiple times Kyle hooked up with other
[54:01] Speaker 2: girls before her, and then he'd.
[54:03] Speaker 3: Have to tell her he didn't want to be with her.
[54:05] Speaker 3: I mean she.
[54:05] Speaker 1: Has an I didn't watch those early days.
[54:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, she has a pattern of doing this, so I
[54:11] Speaker 2: don't I think all she cares about right now is
[54:14] Speaker 2: having support and love and West is giving it to her.
[54:18] Speaker 2: I don't think she gives a shit if West is
[54:20] Speaker 2: going to be faithful a year from now.
[54:22] Speaker 1: He's dumb as a box of rocks. Like you listen
[54:25] Speaker 1: to him talk and you're thinking, what the actual fuck
[54:27] Speaker 1: are you talking about? And then you know they're they're
[54:30] Speaker 1: in the dressing or green room or whatever, dressing room whatever.
[54:35] Speaker 1: And then is that where he starts talking like, Amanda,
[54:39] Speaker 1: should I hop in more and defend you?
[54:42] Speaker 2: And I'm like, I mean they're talking about you know, uh,
[54:46] Speaker 2: Amanda saying, you know, everybody's making me feel dumb for
[54:48] Speaker 2: trusting you. And he's like, yeah, I know, I can't believe.
[54:52] Speaker 2: You know, are they that dumb? Are they that dumb?
[54:55] Speaker 3: Yeah? One room over, Sierra's facetiming with Miha.
[55:01] Speaker 1: Yeah I want Miha on Summerhouse.
[55:05] Speaker 2: But also then Miha is like, well, you know West
[55:11] Speaker 2: was wanting to. This is where you start to realize
[55:13] Speaker 2: that West isn't that dumb, because she's like, Wes led
[55:17] Speaker 2: me to believe that he never wanted me to be
[55:19] Speaker 2: on Summerhouse because he didn't want me to be affected
[55:22] Speaker 2: by people knowing who I.
[55:23] Speaker 1: Am such a fucking con.
[55:25] Speaker 3: Now, like he just wants wanted his storyline to be Sierra.
[55:29] Speaker 1: How about when how about when West says to Amanda,
[55:33] Speaker 1: Siara gets under Amanda's skin. I'm like, you fucking do fast,
[55:38] Speaker 1: like you're really gonna sit there and say, see, Era
[55:40] Speaker 1: gets under Amanda's skin. Like his choice of words are so.
[55:46] Speaker 3: Tone deaf, Like I don't think he can see it.
[55:49] Speaker 2: I think they are in a even though there's zero
[55:54] Speaker 2: like we're not seeing them affectionate at all. There's zero
[55:57] Speaker 2: like chemistry feeling between them. I think they are so
[56:02] Speaker 2: close right now they can't see.
[56:05] Speaker 3: Out of their own way.
[56:07] Speaker 1: Did they not watch vander Pump Rules? Did they not
[56:10] Speaker 1: go through scandabal? Did they not? Like I don't think
[56:15] Speaker 1: they did. They really think.
[56:18] Speaker 2: I think West realized, you know, he's going to be
[56:21] Speaker 2: hated anyway.
[56:22] Speaker 3: He screwed up, and.
[56:27] Speaker 1: See I just don't understand how they're all going to
[56:29] Speaker 1: come back and film together. We know for a fact
[56:32] Speaker 1: that like Sierra doesn't let things go, she's not gonna
[56:36] Speaker 1: let this go. She's going to hold a grudge, sharp
[56:39] Speaker 1: with her words. I just can't imagine them filming. There'd
[56:44] Speaker 1: be such a divide.
[56:46] Speaker 2: I think if anyone's not coming back. I don't think
[56:49] Speaker 2: Sierra would come back. I think Sierra's career is going
[56:53] Speaker 2: to thrive.
[56:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[56:55] Speaker 2: No, I'd feel like it'd be like Arianna coming back
[57:00] Speaker 2: to be on the Valley or what you're doing it
[57:04] Speaker 2: that's on uh Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Whitney Levitt coming.
[57:09] Speaker 1: Back, and Ariana she's Ariana. But let's think about this.
[57:14] Speaker 1: How in God's Earth is Amanda going to film in
[57:18] Speaker 1: in the city. How is she Nobody wants to be
[57:20] Speaker 1: her friend? No girls on that show want to be
[57:22] Speaker 1: her friend. Now she's not married to Kyle. There's no
[57:26] Speaker 1: way she can return to that show.
[57:29] Speaker 2: See, I disagree. I think everyone's gonna let this go.
[57:33] Speaker 2: Do you think I think I think we're going to
[57:35] Speaker 2: Morphriight into her. I think they've all gonna see they're
[57:39] Speaker 2: all gonna give Amanda all this shit. I think that
[57:42] Speaker 2: it ultimately probably won't work between her and West, and
[57:46] Speaker 2: then she's going to have her friendships back.
[57:48] Speaker 1: Well I hope. So, I hope she gets her friendships back,
[57:51] Speaker 1: not with Sierra.
[57:52] Speaker 3: I think that's a done deal. But I think I
[57:55] Speaker 3: don't think.
[57:55] Speaker 2: I think Lindsay is a professional, and if Lindsay's supposed
[57:58] Speaker 2: to film with Amanda.
[58:00] Speaker 3: She's going to.
[58:01] Speaker 1: Oh, of course she's going to do it, just like
[58:02] Speaker 1: she did with Danielle.
[58:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just think there's no we didn't sit.
[58:07] Speaker 1: Here all fucking day long and talk about this because
[58:10] Speaker 1: I just I'm so curious what's going to happen moving
[58:12] Speaker 1: forward with both shows. I think that there's a lot
[58:16] Speaker 1: she stays with him. I mean, the only thing they
[58:19] Speaker 1: could do is maybe move west over to in the
[58:23] Speaker 1: City and take him.
[58:25] Speaker 2: That was an awkward scene of the in the City
[58:27] Speaker 2: though I know that everybody else hasn't gotten to see
[58:30] Speaker 2: that scene yet, but like, that was awkward, very everybody
[58:34] Speaker 2: seemed weird.
[58:35] Speaker 1: Well, we're not going to know. We can speculate all
[58:38] Speaker 1: we want, but we're not going to find out for
[58:40] Speaker 1: a few months.
[58:41] Speaker 2: We're not going to find out for a few months.
[58:43] Speaker 2: But I did leave this episode reminded that Kyle has
[58:50] Speaker 2: done a lot of things. Yeah, that hurt Amanda, and
[58:55] Speaker 2: Kyle took zero accountability because anybody was sticking out for her.
[59:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, he just kept saying, well, you would do the same.
[59:02] Speaker 2: Thing if you didn't have love for all these years,
[59:04] Speaker 2: and you do the same thing if you hadn't had
[59:06] Speaker 2: sex and seven years you do the same thing, Like.
[59:08] Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't. But also, I think in Amanda's mind
[59:12] Speaker 1: she can't see past. Kyle's done all this stuff to me,
[59:15] Speaker 1: So why what I did is so bad? Like she
[59:18] Speaker 1: can't she can't see it.
[59:20] Speaker 3: She doesn't.
[59:21] Speaker 2: I think she sees it. I think she doesn't care.
[59:24] Speaker 2: I think she wants someone to take care of her
[59:27] Speaker 2: so badly. She's hoping it's West God, I know.
[59:34] Speaker 1: Oh well, maybe they'll have a baby together.
[59:37] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Maybe they'll move to the Birds.
[59:40] Speaker 1: And then they'll split up, and then Kyle will take
[59:42] Speaker 1: a Manda back and raise West kid.
[59:44] Speaker 3: Oh my god, who knows?
[59:49] Speaker 1: Oh my god?
[59:49] Speaker 2: Oh I love the how he did we get over
[59:51] Speaker 2: it and how obsessed we are.
[59:52] Speaker 1: There's so much too.
[59:54] Speaker 3: We got one more episode, and.
[59:56] Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be like it's gonna be a
[59:59] Speaker 1: huge one because they usually wait to the third episode
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: for like them to give us the biggest juice is
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: the biggest juice. So here's gonna be some I would
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: assume some really juicy stuff coming out.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: There's gonna have to be somebody some If a fan
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: doesn't come on and admit that Kyle slept over at
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: her house and slept with him.
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: Like, what else are they? I mean, it's gonna have
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: to I don't even think.
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: That's gonna help. I just think the betrayal of going
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: after a friend's ex is just the ultimate fuck you.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: It's the ultimate fuck you. There's no coming back from that.
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: Do you think we're gonna see me on set? Or
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: you think they're gonna.
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: Call her me? Huh, yeah, oh they're I don't know.
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean they called her from the
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: green room, right.
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all know. West is a liar.
[1:00:52] Speaker 3: West is a thing. He's a pathy. Obviously a pathy.
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: He's a pathy. Oh my god.
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: Alright, So I think a lot of them are pathies,
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: but love them.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it going, keep it going
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: All right, talk to you later, Okay,

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