# Forgive, Forget & F U Eyes (In The City Recap)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 29 Jul 2026, 33 min.

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Is Amanda suddenly likable?! Is Kyle’s sex so good you only need it three times a year? Let’s compare Salley & Amanda’s notes… Whose sass are we loving on In The City? Who needs to tone it down a notch? Plus, do we think Amanda and West will actually end up together in the end?! Does a baby seem inevitable? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
[0:11] Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and cambrid Judge. We're
[0:16] Speaker 2: doing In the City Reunion Part two. I could have
[0:20] Speaker 2: lived with only part one.
[0:21] Speaker 1: I agree with that.
[0:23] Speaker 2: I actually agree with that.
[0:24] Speaker 1: I don't think that anything. I mean, I don't know
[0:27] Speaker 1: about you. I don't want to talk about Amanda and
[0:31] Speaker 1: West and Kyle anymore.
[0:35] Speaker 2: I'm done until West is on the show.
[0:38] Speaker 1: He ain't good, gonna be on the show.
[0:39] Speaker 2: He's gonna be on this show. Get I bet you
[0:43] Speaker 2: PK's one hundred thousand dollars that West is going to
[0:47] Speaker 2: be on this show. He's been on it.
[0:49] Speaker 1: I bet you, Duritas, I bet you this foreclosure. We
[0:59] Speaker 1: woke up today and show asshole.
[1:01] Speaker 2: Listen. I bet you today one cocaine without fintanel that.
[1:08] Speaker 2: I think.
[1:08] Speaker 1: The one thing that stood out for me the most
[1:10] Speaker 1: in this whole episode is when Andy had his card
[1:13] Speaker 1: and he's like, Gina from Alabama would like to know
[1:18] Speaker 1: Lindsay didn't Danielle date Kyle first? And then she's like this,
[1:24] Speaker 1: who wasn't ready flowing.
[1:26] Speaker 2: And then she's like thanks, blah blah blah, and she's.
[1:30] Speaker 1: Like this, she goes, oh, that's a very good question.
[1:33] Speaker 1: That's a very good question. What's the guy's name?
[1:36] Speaker 2: Oh?
[1:36] Speaker 1: Oh, Gina, Gina, Oh Gina, Oh Gina. Didn't she she's
[1:40] Speaker 1: so media trained, you can tell this girl as a publicist.
[1:43] Speaker 2: But the first time she did it, she said, oh,
[1:47] Speaker 2: why don't you tell blah blah blah from blah blah
[1:49] Speaker 2: blah city that I And then she goes, actually, I'm sorry,
[1:55] Speaker 2: so what what did you say? Bob? Bob Bob in
[1:58] Speaker 2: New Jersey.
[2:00] Speaker 1: But just like that's like to repeat the question and
[2:06] Speaker 1: then people off like she's good, she's got good, good skills.
[2:10] Speaker 2: That's pretty good. But I mean it starts off. Oh.
[2:13] Speaker 2: I also, you know, I hate to brag and be right.
[2:16] Speaker 1: Oh ya, I just asked the viewers. I hate it.
[2:20] Speaker 2: I hate it. What are you?
[2:22] Speaker 1: What are you bragging about? And what do you think
[2:24] Speaker 1: you're right about? Because you're probably not?
[2:27] Speaker 2: No this one, I am because I got a lot
[2:29] Speaker 2: of messages about it. But the problem is is that
[2:32] Speaker 2: I can't really remember his name. So it's just taking
[2:36] Speaker 2: me a quick little moment to zip up here and
[2:39] Speaker 2: look on this.
[2:39] Speaker 1: You can't remember why you're right?
[2:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I can't remember why I'm right. I
[2:43] Speaker 2: can't remember the guy's name. Sorry. Because a lot of
[2:47] Speaker 2: people agreed with me about what Kenny is controlling Whitney
[2:52] Speaker 2: and when he reached back and put his hand on
[2:55] Speaker 2: her leg every time control, they thought it was a
[2:58] Speaker 2: control tactic.
[2:59] Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see it like that. But I
[3:02] Speaker 1: wasn't looking that deep into it.
[3:03] Speaker 2: It's as if I've never been controlled before. I have
[3:06] Speaker 2: no idea what those little things.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Oh I have been, but I just didn't. I thought
[3:11] Speaker 1: when I watched it, I just thought he was like
[3:12] Speaker 1: looking back like I want to see my beautiful girlfriend
[3:15] Speaker 1: speak like.
[3:16] Speaker 2: I want you to think about how many times your
[3:18] Speaker 2: ex husband looked back at you squeezed your leg hard
[3:21] Speaker 2: when you were speaking about.
[3:22] Speaker 1: Something in the shind.
[3:26] Speaker 2: What did you really think about those moments, for those loving,
[3:29] Speaker 2: caring moments.
[3:31] Speaker 1: Right Whitney. On the other hand, I mean, you could
[3:35] Speaker 1: be right, because do you think that she really came
[3:39] Speaker 1: I don't think you did. You don't think she came
[3:41] Speaker 1: up with the whole mom thing with Lindsay, like the
[3:44] Speaker 1: single mom comment you think that Kinny told her to
[3:48] Speaker 1: say that.
[3:49] Speaker 2: No, I think that she bitched about it a little bit.
[3:53] Speaker 2: I think she complained about it a little bit, and
[3:55] Speaker 2: then it just got brought bigger and bigger into, you know,
[3:59] Speaker 2: to of her some sort of.
[4:00] Speaker 1: Storyline, because when confronted, she's like deer in the headlights,
[4:06] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And Lindsay's like, no, you have
[4:09] Speaker 1: to apologize fifteen times more to every mom out there
[4:13] Speaker 1: in the world.
[4:15] Speaker 2: But then this is where I think I see things
[4:18] Speaker 2: shift a little bit. She's like, not only do you
[4:19] Speaker 2: need to apologize to everyone in the world, we see
[4:23] Speaker 2: Whitney once again being like, well, it's really just because
[4:25] Speaker 2: you're treated better or differently or above, like just say
[4:29] Speaker 2: that you're condescending, Like just do whatever you need to say,
[4:32] Speaker 2: but quit beating around the bush here. But then Yvonne
[4:35] Speaker 2: could admit that Georgina and Lindsay were being rude at
[4:37] Speaker 2: the cabin, but they've made up and they've talked one
[4:40] Speaker 2: hundred plus times since then. But we never see Yvonne
[4:44] Speaker 2: and Georgina really being rude at the cabin.
[4:46] Speaker 1: I mean, there was a little bit she was mean
[4:48] Speaker 1: about the room. I think I.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Think mean as a stretch a stern, Like if you
[4:55] Speaker 2: and I walked into a room and there was two
[4:59] Speaker 2: big rooms with a king sized bed and you were like, no,
[5:05] Speaker 2: they have three. They had three. We learned this on
[5:09] Speaker 2: the they had three king sized bedrooms. Okay, So if
[5:13] Speaker 2: we walked upstairs and I saw three king sized bedrooms
[5:16] Speaker 2: and you and Eddie threw your bag down and said,
[5:18] Speaker 2: this one's ours, and I was like, but I'm the
[5:20] Speaker 2: one that has cancer and I'm newly divorced, I should
[5:23] Speaker 2: have the one that's three inches bigger.
[5:25] Speaker 1: No, who fucking care? Sense, I get it.
[5:29] Speaker 2: If it was like there was only one room that
[5:31] Speaker 2: I thought it was.
[5:32] Speaker 1: Just one king that's why no three. There's a fight
[5:36] Speaker 1: about the fucking rooms in every show, like.
[5:40] Speaker 2: So annoying to me. But also it's like, I mean,
[5:44] Speaker 2: I think even Amanda, who was the one that ended
[5:46] Speaker 2: up sharing a room with Kyle that was twin beds,
[5:49] Speaker 2: was like there was plenty of rooms that were big
[5:51] Speaker 2: enough that they would have been fine in.
[5:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're glad that Yvonne and Lindsay are getting
[5:57] Speaker 1: along really well. And was it Nick that said they're
[5:59] Speaker 1: basically a thrupple?
[6:00] Speaker 2: Now, yeah, Well, he made Lindsay Lindsay say it because
[6:04] Speaker 2: he didn't want to have to say it. He goes
[6:06] Speaker 2: ask Lindsay to say it and she's like, yeah, I say,
[6:08] Speaker 2: you're a Thrupple.
[6:10] Speaker 1: So they're very close.
[6:12] Speaker 2: Then Danielle is shocked. Some of this Danielle stuff. It
[6:15] Speaker 2: gets me a little bit turned around because I think
[6:19] Speaker 2: that there's so much history that I'm a little bit
[6:21] Speaker 2: confused with. Danielle said she was shocked that Lindsay had
[6:23] Speaker 2: a list of her missteps written down. Do you agree
[6:27] Speaker 2: that it's a pretty dramatic grudge a little bit.
[6:32] Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of a grudge. But
[6:34] Speaker 1: here's the thing, like, when you're filing a show like this,
[6:38] Speaker 1: I do, and I have in the past. I didn't
[6:40] Speaker 1: have to this year, but in the past when somebody
[6:42] Speaker 1: has done something to me because I forget, I know.
[6:46] Speaker 2: Lindsay's like Santa Claus. She's writing her list and checking
[6:49] Speaker 2: it down. So I would.
[6:51] Speaker 1: I would write a list and every time something would happen,
[6:53] Speaker 1: so I can remember because a lot of times I
[6:56] Speaker 1: don't give a shit. I don't give a shit, but
[6:59] Speaker 1: then you got to give shit when you're in confessionals,
[7:01] Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, let me look at my bliss,
[7:03] Speaker 1: let me see exactly what went down.
[7:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you can kind of see the
[7:07] Speaker 2: way they're looking at each other. They've kind of forgiven
[7:10] Speaker 2: each other in my opinion. But now I have another question,
[7:14] Speaker 2: and you can't look at your rundown. Do you know
[7:16] Speaker 2: what OTPHJ is?
[7:19] Speaker 1: Over the pants blowjob or something? No hand job, ah,
[7:26] Speaker 1: rubbing the jeans. Danielle is adamant that rubbing the gene
[7:30] Speaker 1: hand job.
[7:31] Speaker 2: Never happened with Carl Who do we believe?
[7:34] Speaker 1: I actually believe her because the way that do you
[7:37] Speaker 1: remember way back when, I don't think they did a flashback?
[7:40] Speaker 1: Maybe they did when Kyle told somebody else about it,
[7:45] Speaker 1: he didn't really have the facts. Yeah, so I don't
[7:49] Speaker 1: think it was true.
[7:51] Speaker 2: What I think is had been switched to an over
[7:53] Speaker 2: the pants hand job now that it's over the pants.
[7:55] Speaker 2: I think maybe they were just like she was maybe
[7:58] Speaker 2: dry humping him a little bit, like maybe she was
[8:01] Speaker 2: sitting on him. And I know you hate talking like this.
[8:04] Speaker 2: I could see he's looking down. But you're having your
[8:06] Speaker 2: sexual breakout season this year, so I feel like we're
[8:09] Speaker 2: going to be more open to talking about sex, but
[8:11] Speaker 2: I feel like she was sitting on his lap and
[8:13] Speaker 2: probably grinding a bit well because they were jammed in
[8:19] Speaker 2: a uber cab or whatever it was.
[8:22] Speaker 1: Don't mind me. I'm just having severe stomach pains.
[8:25] Speaker 2: Oh God, no camera gets to.
[8:30] Speaker 1: Bad idea diet coke with a bad idea, bad bad
[8:34] Speaker 1: I have. I've had a for two three days now,
[8:37] Speaker 1: I've had the gastritis flare up.
[8:39] Speaker 2: Oh. So I love my new medication, the calcium things
[8:43] Speaker 2: or whatever that helped me changed my life.
[8:45] Speaker 1: Upper stomach has been extended so far that I can't
[8:48] Speaker 1: even bend over. It is so gross and it's just
[8:51] Speaker 1: a hard rock and just sharp pains. And then so
[8:54] Speaker 1: I took two pills this morning and I thought, oh,
[8:58] Speaker 1: I'm doing so much better. So I took a diet coke.
[9:01] Speaker 2: Uh huh, No, it didn't help it.
[9:03] Speaker 1: It's having really bad, sharp pains.
[9:05] Speaker 2: Lovely, I'm sorry. Okay, Onward, onward and upwards. Then we're onto.
[9:19] Speaker 2: Danielle and Owen don't want toxicity in their lives with
[9:23] Speaker 2: a baby on the way, which is exactly why Lindsay
[9:26] Speaker 2: was avoiding Danielle before.
[9:30] Speaker 1: Yep, and I think she pointed that out right I.
[9:34] Speaker 2: Think Owen came into this union ready to say all
[9:37] Speaker 2: the things to Lindsay that Danielle wanted him to say,
[9:41] Speaker 2: by the way I love him, I love him, and
[9:44] Speaker 2: like he's like, I mean, would you want to talk
[9:45] Speaker 2: about your past history? Would you want to do this?
[9:48] Speaker 1: Like other people are literally strangers to him there? And
[9:51] Speaker 1: he basically said, like, they're not asking me off camera,
[9:53] Speaker 1: they're asking me on camera.
[9:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, and like they and once we're off camera, nobody
[9:58] Speaker 2: cares to keep asking, and nobody cares is how my
[10:00] Speaker 2: life is doing? And so why would I indulge in
[10:02] Speaker 2: this information?
[10:04] Speaker 1: And also it's like he probably doesn't want to talk
[10:05] Speaker 1: about his ex. She probably doesn't want him to talk
[10:07] Speaker 1: about her, and it's just it's a no win situation.
[10:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. Does it seem like Lindsay is taking responsibility for
[10:15] Speaker 2: her part of things to.
[10:16] Speaker 1: You when it comes to Owen.
[10:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess.
[10:28] Speaker 1: I mean she seems like there are in better terms now.
[10:31] Speaker 2: I mean, I think Amanda kind of jumped in at
[10:33] Speaker 2: one point and was like, hey, guys, this is what happens.
[10:38] Speaker 2: This is what happened, and I watched it happen and
[10:41] Speaker 2: she goes and I'm really sorry that I she goes.
[10:44] Speaker 2: I felt so bad that I was the one that
[10:46] Speaker 2: pulled this up on the internet in the first place,
[10:48] Speaker 2: especially with what was to come in my relationship in
[10:51] Speaker 2: my life.
[10:52] Speaker 1: I mean, the way I kind of see it is
[10:53] Speaker 1: like if Lindsay's just been Lindsay, and without Lindsay, there
[10:58] Speaker 1: is no show.
[10:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[11:00] Speaker 1: I love the one the center of the drama, and
[11:02] Speaker 1: she's the one that does the things that you probably
[11:04] Speaker 1: wouldn't do in everyday, normal life. But we are filming
[11:08] Speaker 1: a show. We are expected to do certain things.
[11:13] Speaker 2: So I mean, even though I didn't think they're necessarily
[11:16] Speaker 2: needed to be a second reunion, I also think they
[11:20] Speaker 2: all did a good job of communicating. Yeah, I mean
[11:24] Speaker 2: other than Andrea and LEXI, like I didn't talk. There's
[11:29] Speaker 2: no word. They talked one time about how they're not
[11:32] Speaker 2: as much at the end, the very very end.
[11:34] Speaker 1: That was by the way, I'm with Lindsay. I will
[11:36] Speaker 1: google whoever the fuck I want to google.
[11:40] Speaker 2: I will google whoever was that Lindsay that said that
[11:43] Speaker 2: or Amanda, No, it was Lindsay.
[11:45] Speaker 1: She's like, she goes. I Daniel's like I just asked
[11:48] Speaker 1: that you stop like looking into his past or whatever,
[11:51] Speaker 1: and she's like, I'll google whoever I want to google.
[11:54] Speaker 2: Listen. If we want to be bedside detectives, we will be.
[11:57] Speaker 1: Everybody does that? Everybody? It's like, who was it? Me
[12:01] Speaker 1: and somebody else would joke as soon as we get
[12:03] Speaker 1: into a sprinter van and there's a new girl on
[12:05] Speaker 1: the cast and we're like, oh, so where does she live?
[12:08] Speaker 1: We're going to her house? Get up on zillow house,
[12:13] Speaker 1: damwich made for this house?
[12:15] Speaker 2: How old is she? I have a question, did I
[12:17] Speaker 2: make this up? Or did you used to work at Hooters?
[12:20] Speaker 1: I never worked at Hooters because I watched really good
[12:23] Speaker 1: Heaters document.
[12:25] Speaker 2: Well Brittany did, but I thought somebody else worked at
[12:27] Speaker 2: Hooters that I know.
[12:29] Speaker 1: No, I was a mom at eighteen.
[12:34] Speaker 2: So but what do you used to have, like a
[12:36] Speaker 2: job that you went around on roller skates?
[12:38] Speaker 1: I remember, No, I worked at Burger King and then
[12:41] Speaker 1: I went I went and got my nail license, and
[12:44] Speaker 1: then I did nails for a while manicurist.
[12:48] Speaker 2: See this is how rumors get started, because sometimes my
[12:51] Speaker 2: memory can be on and sometimes it can be off.
[12:54] Speaker 2: Because I was watching this, which is very good, by
[12:56] Speaker 2: the way, I'll send it to you, but I was
[12:58] Speaker 2: watching a Heuter's documentary and I was like, I can
[13:00] Speaker 2: totally the girl that was the very first Hooters girls
[13:02] Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty three, and she had like your type.
[13:04] Speaker 1: Of hair, the ones that like the big old bangs.
[13:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, hai, y'all I'm from And I
[13:10] Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Tammy would have been so
[13:12] Speaker 2: good at this.
[13:13] Speaker 1: Oh God. I I was very into roller skating, that's
[13:16] Speaker 1: for sure. I had my own skates, but no, I
[13:20] Speaker 1: never did it as a job. I worked for Snappy
[13:24] Speaker 1: car Rental, Idea with Snappy Carna car Rental.
[13:30] Speaker 2: I worked at Vinji's Pizza You did, Yeah, I got
[13:33] Speaker 2: rid because all I did was eat pizza.
[13:36] Speaker 1: I've never been a waitress.
[13:40] Speaker 2: I've been a hostess.
[13:42] Speaker 1: I never. I've never worked in the restaurant business.
[13:44] Speaker 2: I worked at Mister Chow and you're a cha as
[13:46] Speaker 2: a hostess.
[13:47] Speaker 1: I worked as a at a car place like a dealership.
[13:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. The rest of my jobs were all entertainment and
[13:57] Speaker 2: then horsey stuff, horse horsing, horsing, Thanks God.
[14:00] Speaker 1: And another thing I don't ever want to hear about
[14:01] Speaker 1: is the white dress, the pink dress, whatever coly dresses.
[14:04] Speaker 1: Andy asked everyone of Danielle's dress was white or pink
[14:07] Speaker 1: and was it like Georgina. She's like, is this like
[14:10] Speaker 1: the yellow blue dress?
[14:11] Speaker 2: Yeah? Like that's what we said last week. And Yvonne's
[14:14] Speaker 2: clapback is if you were invited to an all pink party,
[14:17] Speaker 2: they wouldn't have let you in.
[14:18] Speaker 1: And Danielle looked at her and goes, what shut up?
[14:22] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[14:22] Speaker 1: Like, I mean she she did text many people. She
[14:26] Speaker 1: obviously knew that it was borderline white.
[14:29] Speaker 2: It was blush.
[14:30] Speaker 1: Let's be honest. It wasn't peak and it wasn't white,
[14:32] Speaker 1: it was blush. But she had the courtesy to say, hey,
[14:37] Speaker 1: do you think this is okay?
[14:38] Speaker 2: Like, maybe that's all she had. Maybe she was busy,
[14:41] Speaker 2: that's what she's saying. She goes, I didn't have time
[14:43] Speaker 2: to go get something else. I wanted to be dressed
[14:45] Speaker 2: up enough, and I even texted her a picture of
[14:48] Speaker 2: the dress. But you can, I mean, clearly Yvonne has
[14:51] Speaker 2: other things to deal with, other than what her friends
[14:55] Speaker 2: are going to wear to her wedding.
[14:56] Speaker 1: Well did you hear I want to make a comment
[14:58] Speaker 1: under his breath that Yvonne's a fucking idiot?
[15:01] Speaker 2: He did?
[15:02] Speaker 1: Uh huh?
[15:03] Speaker 2: I kind of love him and his sass. I can't
[15:05] Speaker 2: help it. I kind of do.
[15:07] Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, Okay.
[15:10] Speaker 2: But I feel like this is just an attempt to
[15:12] Speaker 2: continue conflict for no reason, Like there's no reason for
[15:16] Speaker 2: us to keep talking about this dress. I don't think
[15:18] Speaker 2: she did it maliciously. Yes, she felt insecure about it.
[15:22] Speaker 2: That's why she texted a bunch of people, does this
[15:24] Speaker 2: look okay? And you know what, no one told her.
[15:26] Speaker 2: Now I would have just text the host or she
[15:30] Speaker 2: did text the host, but she hosted.
[15:32] Speaker 1: She texted everybody else too.
[15:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, but she texted the host and the host said
[15:36] Speaker 2: totally fine. Yeah, So I mean, get over it. Sorry. Also,
[15:41] Speaker 2: I don't really care about that, Like, I think the
[15:44] Speaker 2: only time I cared about that ever was in one
[15:47] Speaker 2: of my weddings. I'm not going to say.
[15:49] Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Did she even get
[15:50] Speaker 1: married in a white dress? Was he wearing like some
[15:53] Speaker 1: Hawaiian out it?
[15:54] Speaker 2: Well, that was the day that they went to the
[15:56] Speaker 2: court house.
[15:57] Speaker 1: Well, I never saw the wedding.
[15:59] Speaker 2: Wedding was years ago.
[16:02] Speaker 1: Well, they kept calling her wedding. It wasn't a wedding,
[16:03] Speaker 1: it was a reception.
[16:05] Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't even a reception. They already had a
[16:08] Speaker 2: wedding and a reception. It was a dinner party, but
[16:10] Speaker 2: they all argued where they all thought about everything. But
[16:13] Speaker 2: Danielle says she could never trust Amanda fully because she
[16:17] Speaker 2: didn't feel that she was stable or showed her real self.
[16:19] Speaker 2: I thought Amanda was going to blow here, but Amanda
[16:22] Speaker 2: took it.
[16:24] Speaker 1: I think Amanda's just so used to just shit coming
[16:26] Speaker 1: her way. She's like, Oh, okay, here we go. Can't
[16:29] Speaker 1: wait to get this year over with, start off next year.
[16:32] Speaker 2: Then Amanda said she did text Danielle in apology for
[16:34] Speaker 2: the way that she handled her and Owen's relationship. She
[16:37] Speaker 2: also says Amanda's apology to Danielle was better than anything
[16:41] Speaker 2: she said to Sierra at the Summerhouse union that I
[16:44] Speaker 2: agreed with.
[16:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was in the thick of it back then,
[16:49] Speaker 1: like it was bad. She was popping beta blockers to
[16:52] Speaker 1: calm hersell down.
[16:53] Speaker 2: And I still don't even believe it. But I have
[16:56] Speaker 2: a question, do you truly think what Amanda? I truly
[16:59] Speaker 2: think Amanda believes in her brain that she did nothing
[17:02] Speaker 2: wrong with Sierra.
[17:05] Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to get a read on her,
[17:11] Speaker 1: Like I think just the way she's the way she
[17:13] Speaker 1: moves and operates.
[17:15] Speaker 2: But I liked it. I mean I liked her this reunion.
[17:18] Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie.
[17:19] Speaker 1: Well, she did kind of I wouldn't say redeem herself,
[17:22] Speaker 1: but she became likable, and you know, things got turned
[17:26] Speaker 1: around where people were starting to look at Kyle. Yeah,
[17:30] Speaker 1: and he's being accused of cheating and sleeping with other
[17:33] Speaker 1: people and he tried to get himself out of it
[17:35] Speaker 1: and he's like, bro, no, no. And she was smiling
[17:39] Speaker 1: every single time she would bring up something that.
[17:41] Speaker 2: She couldn't even help herself.
[17:42] Speaker 1: She's like yeah, because I mean, the truth is and
[17:45] Speaker 1: we've said it, everybody has said it. I think that
[17:47] Speaker 1: Georgina says it at the end of the episode, like dude,
[17:50] Speaker 1: you are ready to be canceled. People are done with you. Yeah,
[17:53] Speaker 1: and then that's never happened. Yeah, But before.
[17:56] Speaker 2: We get to that, it's we already kind of talk
[17:59] Speaker 2: about this. But Owen purposely being vague about his divorce
[18:02] Speaker 2: one because he didn't know the people and two they
[18:05] Speaker 2: don't really care. Yeah, And but I also want to
[18:09] Speaker 2: be like, yes, Owen, this is exactly the point the
[18:12] Speaker 2: show you signed up for.
[18:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like, come on, well, we did find
[18:19] Speaker 1: out that they're planning on getting married once his divorce
[18:21] Speaker 1: is final. Has his wife ex wife spoke out?
[18:25] Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think she's
[18:27] Speaker 2: going to speak out.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:28] Speaker 2: And did I just make out that she lives where
[18:30] Speaker 2: they're from originally or does she live in New York?
[18:33] Speaker 1: I think she lives in New York?
[18:34] Speaker 2: She does, Okay. Then Amanda says she didn't tell anyone
[18:38] Speaker 2: about Kyle making out with someone while they were married.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Kyle claims that he was just dancing closely to another
[18:44] Speaker 2: girl and then she said close enough that what did
[18:47] Speaker 2: she say, you could spit raspberries?
[18:50] Speaker 1: Oh no, she was? He was? She? Or he he
[18:52] Speaker 1: was doing raspberries on her neck?
[18:55] Speaker 2: Oh like these kind of raspberries. Yeah, yeah yeah.
[18:57] Speaker 1: And Amanda was there, so so she saw it go down.
[19:02] Speaker 2: So if she knows there was a video of it.
[19:05] Speaker 1: I thought, this is where they were together, and she
[19:07] Speaker 1: saw it and she's like, if you're doing that in
[19:08] Speaker 1: front of me, like, what are you doing? When I
[19:10] Speaker 1: went back, and then she drops the bombshell that allegedly
[19:13] Speaker 1: Kyle had sex with someone while they were still married.
[19:16] Speaker 1: She found this out after the separation just a few
[19:19] Speaker 1: weeks before the reunion. Kyle denied it. I could see
[19:23] Speaker 1: him having I mean, the guy was married ten years
[19:25] Speaker 1: and had sex three times. Make that make sense to me?
[19:28] Speaker 2: And you never believe also props for me again. I
[19:32] Speaker 2: said that I believe that they never had sex, and
[19:34] Speaker 2: you said, no way, I just don't.
[19:36] Speaker 1: That doesn't sound normal.
[19:38] Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not.
[19:39] Speaker 1: I mean I can see, like the last few years,
[19:42] Speaker 1: like it died down or something, but from the get go.
[19:46] Speaker 2: From the very get but I mean, Amanda, I don't know.
[19:51] Speaker 1: How they stuck.
[19:51] Speaker 2: Amanda kind of looks like she's looking for I Got
[19:54] Speaker 2: you moment on Kyle, Like she's like, listen, you've been
[19:58] Speaker 2: digging me around for years. And we go back to
[20:00] Speaker 2: Summer House season one and he was digging her around.
[20:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the Dancing Close story and the Raspberry
[20:09] Speaker 1: story are two different times. So Amanda was there for
[20:12] Speaker 1: the Raspberry, she watched him up on some girl's neck. Okay,
[20:17] Speaker 1: but that did happen in front of her, So could
[20:21] Speaker 1: you imagine what would happen when she wasn't there?
[20:25] Speaker 2: That's my thing? Like, So then the Dancing close story
[20:30] Speaker 2: that's where she got the video of like I feel
[20:33] Speaker 2: like my trust would be so I would my one,
[20:36] Speaker 2: my confidence level would be screwed. Two. I thought she
[20:40] Speaker 2: made a really good point when she was like, you
[20:42] Speaker 2: know what, he never wanted to comfort me, chat with me,
[20:45] Speaker 2: hang out with me, talk with me, do anything. All
[20:47] Speaker 2: you'd want to do is once he came home, he
[20:48] Speaker 2: would want to have sex with me.
[20:51] Speaker 1: But she would always say no.
[20:53] Speaker 2: She would always say no. But if somebody's giving you no.
[20:57] Speaker 1: Miss so weird for such a young couple getting married
[21:01] Speaker 1: and just.
[21:02] Speaker 2: But when you start off with cheating, that's I think
[21:04] Speaker 2: kind of what starts to happen.
[21:07] Speaker 1: Smart move on them to get married.
[21:08] Speaker 2: Huh oh gosh, I mean who knows. Then when Linda.
[21:13] Speaker 1: Lindsay shocked, she's like, what the fuck? You had sex
[21:16] Speaker 1: for four years? But then it was like, haven't they
[21:18] Speaker 1: been together? How long have they been married? I thought
[21:20] Speaker 1: they've been together like ten years?
[21:22] Speaker 2: They have. I mean they have Season one of Summer House.
[21:25] Speaker 2: They're having sex all over the place.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Okay, so they are only married four years, yes.
[21:29] Speaker 2: But they've been ok they've been on and off a
[21:31] Speaker 2: couple for a long time. But like she used to
[21:34] Speaker 2: come to the house before she was ever on summer house,
[21:36] Speaker 2: and like he would drunk dial her and she would
[21:39] Speaker 2: come over and they'd have sex.
[21:40] Speaker 1: I think, Okay, so it was. It was good for
[21:42] Speaker 1: six years and then they got married and there the
[21:44] Speaker 1: whole bottom fell out.
[21:46] Speaker 2: I think once the cheating started happening.
[21:48] Speaker 1: She said, what do you think put her in a depression?
[21:50] Speaker 1: Because she said part of the reason why they did
[21:53] Speaker 1: not were not intimate is because she was depressed.
[21:57] Speaker 2: I think she I mean, I think you. I don't
[21:59] Speaker 2: think some thing has to put you into a state
[22:01] Speaker 2: of depression. I think you can just be depressed.
[22:04] Speaker 1: But I think there was no like problem you have
[22:08] Speaker 1: to be.
[22:09] Speaker 2: I thought maybe the cheating thing, but I mean, it
[22:11] Speaker 2: could definitely be that, that could be what started it.
[22:14] Speaker 2: But some people just have a chemical imbalance.
[22:17] Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Kyle clarifies that it wasn't four years of nothing.
[22:22] Speaker 1: They had sex three times.
[22:24] Speaker 2: So what is that math? I don't know how it's
[22:26] Speaker 2: not even once a year on year.
[22:29] Speaker 1: Three quarters of a time year.
[22:31] Speaker 2: Three quarters of time a year. But do you think
[22:33] Speaker 2: it was great like the way that Sally says it,
[22:38] Speaker 2: Maybe it's so good you only need it three times
[22:40] Speaker 2: a year.
[22:41] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[22:49] Speaker 2: Then Amanda remembers of times she went out with Kyle
[22:52] Speaker 2: for New Year's and well, this is it, this is
[22:54] Speaker 2: the thing.
[22:55] Speaker 1: Here we go the raspberries.
[22:57] Speaker 2: Amanda remembers of the times she went out with Kyle for
[23:00] Speaker 2: and he blew raspberries on.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Anybody, blowing raspberries on my neck. Even my husband punched
[23:04] Speaker 1: him in the eyeballs.
[23:06] Speaker 2: Who blows raspberries? I don't know.
[23:08] Speaker 1: I don't like anything near my ears or my neck.
[23:11] Speaker 2: I also question myself that because of the West and
[23:17] Speaker 2: Amanda blunts spitting flives into each other's mouth, I thought
[23:22] Speaker 2: this was real raspberries.
[23:25] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have a thing with food.
[23:27] Speaker 2: I was like, they have a food fetish. Yeah.
[23:30] Speaker 1: And this is when everyone starts to criticize Kyle's behavior
[23:33] Speaker 1: in this scene right here, and Amanda's just sitting there smiling.
[23:37] Speaker 1: She's actively true. I mean, she's trying to paint him
[23:39] Speaker 1: as a bad guy. I don't even know. I don't
[23:41] Speaker 1: even think she has to. I think the truth is
[23:44] Speaker 1: painting him as a bad guy.
[23:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the truth is painting him is a
[23:48] Speaker 2: bad guy. But I think the truth is also she
[23:50] Speaker 2: doesn't want to lose Kyle. I think she wants to
[23:52] Speaker 2: stay friends with him, but she also wants to be
[23:54] Speaker 2: like Kyle enough playing the victim here. Yeah, you're in
[23:59] Speaker 2: this as much as I am.
[24:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:01] Speaker 2: Can you believe her clothes are still in his place?
[24:04] Speaker 1: No? I would bag them up and have goodwill take them.
[24:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, like I would, honestly, just if I were him.
[24:11] Speaker 2: He seems like, so, see, do you just bag that
[24:13] Speaker 2: shit up and send it over to her?
[24:15] Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, she doesn't need it, get rid of it.
[24:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, she had no it's been laying around on top
[24:23] Speaker 2: of that.
[24:24] Speaker 1: Does Amanda have a job.
[24:26] Speaker 2: I mean, she's on multiple television shows and she does
[24:30] Speaker 2: used to do paid posts well, and she used to work.
[24:34] Speaker 1: For Kyle right, but now so she had her bathing
[24:38] Speaker 1: suit line. I don't know if she still has that.
[24:40] Speaker 1: I don't know how a well that's doing. So she's
[24:41] Speaker 1: no longer going to be is this correct? Is she
[24:44] Speaker 1: no longer going to be on Summer House or she
[24:46] Speaker 1: on Summerhouse.
[24:46] Speaker 2: She's not going to be on Summer House, but she's
[24:48] Speaker 2: going to be on.
[24:50] Speaker 1: In the City.
[24:50] Speaker 2: In the City, and.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Then sponsor posts probably come to a halt.
[24:55] Speaker 2: She's still going to be fine. Financially, she's just taking
[24:57] Speaker 2: care of herself. You know, she's you.
[25:00] Speaker 1: Know how much rent is in New York.
[25:02] Speaker 2: I know, holy shit, But she's been on one of
[25:05] Speaker 2: the shows for a lot of years, so I think financially.
[25:09] Speaker 1: Do you think she got the same pay to go
[25:12] Speaker 1: to in the city.
[25:13] Speaker 2: Yes, especially with what was going down.
[25:17] Speaker 1: I'm curious to wonder how that goes.
[25:20] Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine they're going to start you fresh.
[25:24] Speaker 2: The last time she posted about her bathing suits was
[25:27] Speaker 2: March sixteenth.
[25:28] Speaker 1: A long time ago.
[25:29] Speaker 2: That's a long time ago. But then they kind of
[25:32] Speaker 2: get into when Amanda had lunch with Sierra and West
[25:35] Speaker 2: and she claims her giddiness in the scene is because
[25:38] Speaker 2: Sierra and West were friends. Again.
[25:41] Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm buying that.
[25:44] Speaker 2: I mean, why why is she with this man, knowing
[25:47] Speaker 2: everything he's done to women in the past.
[25:49] Speaker 1: It's bad, it's bad, it's bad, everything he's done to
[25:54] Speaker 1: women in the past, and just blowing up her life.
[25:58] Speaker 2: And it's just I don't know. I have this sneaky suspicion.
[26:02] Speaker 2: I know they've been doing all this fake trying to
[26:04] Speaker 2: fake us out getting pregnant thing, but I feel like
[26:06] Speaker 2: these two are going to end up together.
[26:09] Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because I think the same thing.
[26:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think they're going to end up together.
[26:13] Speaker 2: Like I think that when she's done with her divorce,
[26:16] Speaker 2: I think she's going to get pregnant, and I think
[26:17] Speaker 2: they're going to end up together. And I think they're
[26:19] Speaker 2: going to probably.
[26:20] Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mean this in a mid way,
[26:21] Speaker 1: but they're both a little odd, Like his behavior is
[26:25] Speaker 1: odd and she's just like, I don't know, head's always
[26:30] Speaker 1: bobbing back and forth and doesn't really have a lot
[26:34] Speaker 1: to say. I don't know.
[26:36] Speaker 2: I think he makes her feel special regardless. I don't
[26:39] Speaker 2: think Kyle has done that in a very long time.
[26:42] Speaker 2: But then Andy's little girl almost Yeah, well, because she's
[26:46] Speaker 2: I mean when she started with Kyle, she was I
[26:49] Speaker 2: think like twenty one years old.
[26:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems very young.
[26:54] Speaker 2: Then Andy brings it back to Summer House when Kyle
[26:57] Speaker 2: called Amanda a fucking dumb ass bitch. Amanda claims those
[27:00] Speaker 2: fight happened all the time, and Kyle says they would
[27:03] Speaker 2: get into screaming matches and it wasn't just him. Yeah.
[27:06] Speaker 1: Well, I love when Andy couse. I have a question.
[27:09] Speaker 1: You're not gonna like it. I'm like, whoa, Okay, let's
[27:13] Speaker 1: hear it. And this is where things kind of the
[27:16] Speaker 1: dynamics kind of switched right here with Kyle, because let's
[27:19] Speaker 1: face it, like we said he would have been the
[27:22] Speaker 1: bad guy, and then this went down and suddenly he
[27:24] Speaker 1: was a good guy, and now let's bring it back
[27:26] Speaker 1: to what truly it was. He was a shit to her.
[27:29] Speaker 2: He was a shit to her. And then Andy's like, yeah, yeah,
[27:33] Speaker 2: in the city, so anyhow, let's talk about summerhouse. Yeah,
[27:36] Speaker 2: Like he's like, we gotta get to summer house because
[27:39] Speaker 2: we run out of shit to talk about in the city.
[27:43] Speaker 2: And then Kyle said Amanda had given him a fuck
[27:45] Speaker 2: you eyes, which is what prompted that fight. What are
[27:48] Speaker 2: fuck you eyes give him to me?
[27:51] Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, like a bad look.
[27:54] Speaker 2: Or rolled eyes. I don't know. I'm gonna learn what
[27:57] Speaker 2: fuck you eyes. Amanda makes a joke that they were
[28:00] Speaker 2: fuck me I. She's smirking at all the heat he's getting.
[28:04] Speaker 2: She's so happy. She's like, yeah, it was it.
[28:07] Speaker 1: Lindsay has said you're giving the fuck me ies to
[28:10] Speaker 1: West and the fuck you eyes to Kyle, and a
[28:12] Speaker 1: man is like.
[28:14] Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it was. I mean, it wasn't a lot
[28:18] Speaker 2: to talk.
[28:19] Speaker 1: Also about Kyle's drinking. And he was so proud of
[28:23] Speaker 1: himself because he didn't drink the month of January.
[28:26] Speaker 2: Try January.
[28:27] Speaker 1: Try January.
[28:29] Speaker 2: Well, he was still getting laid. That's why he had
[28:32] Speaker 2: sober sex. This makes sense.
[28:33] Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When you have a cast, it's
[28:35] Speaker 1: constantly talking about somebody's drinking. Yeah, it's usually a problem. Yeah,
[28:41] Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire. And just because you don't see
[28:44] Speaker 1: them blocked out junk on the show, well you do.
[28:47] Speaker 2: He does.
[28:47] Speaker 1: He's most of the time he is slurring his words.
[28:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not drinking. At these reunions, he seems
[28:55] Speaker 2: like he's got it together. I mean, I do think,
[28:59] Speaker 2: you know. Kyle finally responded to Amanda's lawyers regarding their divorce.
[29:03] Speaker 2: He wants to do a walkaway divorce, but he isn't
[29:06] Speaker 2: walking away. According to Amanda, what's to walk away?
[29:09] Speaker 1: You go your way, I go my way. I mean,
[29:11] Speaker 1: you don't have to split up money, assets, nothing, They
[29:14] Speaker 1: don't have anything. They don't have.
[29:15] Speaker 2: Kyle wants her to get all of her stuff out
[29:17] Speaker 2: of his apartment. Plus, Kyle still pays for her health insurance.
[29:20] Speaker 2: Georgina makes a comment that Kyle is walking away from
[29:24] Speaker 2: this divorce with a golden ticket, so it's like he is.
[29:28] Speaker 2: Essentially it's like a walk away divorce, Like we're just.
[29:32] Speaker 1: I think they should do a walk away divorce. They
[29:34] Speaker 1: don't have any business together, they own, they are married
[29:37] Speaker 1: four years, they don't have any children, like get your own,
[29:41] Speaker 1: just walk away. Yeah, I mean I did that with
[29:47] Speaker 1: my ex and I was married like twelve years and
[29:50] Speaker 1: had three kids.
[29:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:52] Speaker 1: I got nothing from him, not a cent.
[29:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I think, I mean, clearly this
[30:01] Speaker 2: is this was kind of Amanda's redemption episode like a
[30:05] Speaker 2: little bit yeah. Yeah. And then in the final.
[30:08] Speaker 1: Thoughts, I don't even know if it's her redemption episode
[30:12] Speaker 1: more than it's he's finally Kyle's finally being you know,
[30:15] Speaker 1: his feet are going out to the fire. Yeah, he's like,
[30:18] Speaker 1: you know what you were? You were not great? And
[30:20] Speaker 1: on you know, the Summerhouse reunion, none of that was
[30:24] Speaker 1: really brought up because you were everybody's concentrated on what
[30:26] Speaker 1: Amanda and West did to everybody.
[30:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now they kind of get that called out. Yeah,
[30:32] Speaker 2: and then Kenny and Gavin, they're good. I know you're
[30:35] Speaker 2: thrilled about that.
[30:36] Speaker 1: I don't get the Gavin thing. I'm sorry, I don't.
[30:39] Speaker 2: Andrea and Lexi are not having sex with multiple times
[30:42] Speaker 2: a day anymore. Danielle and Owen are excited to raise
[30:46] Speaker 2: an Irish Puerto Rican New Yorker. Amanda isn't looking too
[30:50] Speaker 2: far into the future with West and Kyle will have
[30:53] Speaker 2: fun summer.
[30:54] Speaker 1: I'm supposed I didn't do like a little update at
[30:56] Speaker 1: the end because she's already had a baby. She had premature.
[31:00] Speaker 1: I know, I think he's still in the hospital.
[31:03] Speaker 2: I think so too.
[31:04] Speaker 1: That's got to be hard.
[31:05] Speaker 2: It's got to be really hard, really hard. But you're
[31:09] Speaker 2: your best boy, Gavin. He said maybe two words this
[31:13] Speaker 2: entire episode, you know what.
[31:14] Speaker 1: I feel like, there was only like three people that
[31:17] Speaker 1: talked this entire reunion.
[31:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[31:21] Speaker 1: It's the same with Summerhouse too, because there was just
[31:23] Speaker 1: that whole scandal in between those few people.
[31:28] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to remember when we watched Scandval
[31:31] Speaker 2: reunion and like Arianna kind of like lost it and said,
[31:35] Speaker 2: like I want to fuck you with a cheese grater
[31:37] Speaker 2: or something like that.
[31:38] Speaker 1: Or connect yourself with the cheese cheese.
[31:41] Speaker 2: Like I'm trying, but I feel like there was still
[31:44] Speaker 2: other drama they talked about.
[31:48] Speaker 1: I can't remember.
[31:49] Speaker 2: I can't remember either, but I don't know. I'm in
[31:53] Speaker 2: the end of the City. I'm into it.
[31:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for next season. Let's see what happened.
[32:00] Speaker 1: Who's going to be on it. They're going to add
[32:02] Speaker 1: new people. I need to know all this information.
[32:05] Speaker 2: I think they're going to do some deletions and some
[32:08] Speaker 2: additions by Gavin. Now, then they're not going to be
[32:13] Speaker 2: able to shoot his place for free. I think Gavin's
[32:15] Speaker 2: stay here. Oh, trust me.
[32:16] Speaker 1: There's a few bars in New York City, quite a
[32:18] Speaker 1: few bars like one on every corner.
[32:20] Speaker 2: I think they need Gavin, and I think they're going
[32:22] Speaker 2: to keep Gavin. I know it's upsetting to you because
[32:25] Speaker 2: you hate him, but I really.
[32:26] Speaker 1: Don't hate him. I just don't.
[32:28] Speaker 2: Whatever I'm said, Carl's not on.
[32:31] Speaker 1: They should ring Karl on. But they're not going to
[32:33] Speaker 1: pay two high salaries for two shows. They're just not
[32:36] Speaker 1: going to do that.
[32:38] Speaker 2: I think they're going to.
[32:39] Speaker 1: Slowly reboot Summerhouse and get new blood in there. Yeah,
[32:46] Speaker 1: and then the ones that are you know, have relationships
[32:50] Speaker 1: and kids and things like that. It's like the same
[32:52] Speaker 1: thing they do with spand of pop. Rules to the Valley.
[32:55] Speaker 1: You know, you grow up. You no longer need to
[32:57] Speaker 1: get wasted every weekend. Grow the fuck up, guys.
[33:00] Speaker 2: Make sure that you keep tuning in. We've got lots
[33:02] Speaker 2: of pods this week. There's so many shows, and then
[33:05] Speaker 2: we've got it's like there's like a little break, and
[33:08] Speaker 2: then we have so many new shows coming.
[33:11] Speaker 1: I can't wait.
[33:12] Speaker 2: I cannot wait, super excited. All right, I love you, Tam,
[33:16] Speaker 2: I love you too. Bye bye.

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