# We Don’t Care If You Eat Meat! (RHOA Recap)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 17 Aug 2026, 49 min.

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Tamra is back from Europe and giving her OPINION on this week’s episode. Are Drew and Shamea jealous of Cynthia? Is Shamea manipulative? Plus, calling the higher ups on a castmate is a no no! Dolores and Tamra explain why… See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod, which Teddy Mellencamp and cam
[0:06] Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.
[0:12] Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Teas
[0:14] Speaker 2: in a Pod myself and Dolores. Oh my god, it
[0:17] Speaker 2: feels like I haven't.
[0:18] Speaker 1: Been here, or no, seriously, you have not. I've been
[0:21] Speaker 1: so long, have not been here forever, And it's so
[0:25] Speaker 1: funny because I saw you trying to dance so that
[0:27] Speaker 1: you could make room to eat over there in Italy.
[0:30] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yes, I mean we had a blast.
[0:33] Speaker 2: We ended up We ended our trip in the best place, Ravello,
[0:37] Speaker 2: which I don't know if you've ever been there, but.
[0:39] Speaker 1: I haven't, but I heard so much about it. That's
[0:41] Speaker 1: on my list. It's on my bucket list.
[0:43] Speaker 2: It's a small little town. It's not as crowded as
[0:46] Speaker 2: the areas we were at. We were in Positano, we
[0:49] Speaker 2: were in al Mafi, we were in Capri, very very
[0:53] Speaker 2: very crowded, which I knew and I read and I
[0:56] Speaker 2: knew that was gonna be hot, but I had so ha,
[0:59] Speaker 2: no idea, like you can't like. I even traveled with
[1:03] Speaker 2: a carry on and I only wore half the clothes
[1:07] Speaker 2: because it is so hot and sticky. They yeah. So
[1:13] Speaker 2: we did beach clubs during the day and at night
[1:16] Speaker 2: to restaurants and had just so much fun. But Ravella
[1:20] Speaker 2: was one of the most beautiful, quaintest towns. And Eddie
[1:24] Speaker 2: did a solid He rented this not airbnb vrbo.
[1:30] Speaker 1: Is that how you? Yeah? Vrbo?
[1:32] Speaker 2: And when we got there, all yeah, all there was
[1:34] Speaker 2: was a gate and the driver didn't know how to
[1:36] Speaker 2: get there. And then I'm looking at him, like, what
[1:38] Speaker 2: have you done. We're not even near the town, you know,
[1:41] Speaker 2: all this stuff, like we're on a busy street. And
[1:44] Speaker 2: then the driver's like, no worry, no worry, pushes the
[1:46] Speaker 2: gate button. We go down to this most beautiful villa,
[1:50] Speaker 2: beautiful property overlooking the Amafe coast, and the they had
[1:57] Speaker 2: a husband and wife, Michael and his wife that lived
[2:01] Speaker 2: on the grounds and they cooked for us and cleaned
[2:05] Speaker 2: for us and drove us around and oh it was
[2:10] Speaker 2: just so beautiful. It was magical. But I am covered
[2:14] Speaker 2: in mosquito bites. You are really poor. Sophia got it
[2:19] Speaker 2: worse than any of us because she gets really bad lumps,
[2:24] Speaker 2: like welts from mosquito bites and then she gets a
[2:29] Speaker 2: bit by ab and I'm like, oh, poor thing. She
[2:33] Speaker 2: just was getting attacked by him. We ended up with
[2:36] Speaker 2: mosquito spray on us and but we still got him anyways,
[2:38] Speaker 2: but it was still fun. So now we're at home,
[2:41] Speaker 2: I'm literally covered in like castor oil.
[2:44] Speaker 1: You're kidding, uh uh. And that's bad because I get
[2:48] Speaker 1: mosquito bites really really bad. It's it's got to do
[2:51] Speaker 1: with your blood type, you know.
[2:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I hear. But the sun is so
[2:56] Speaker 2: strong and no matter how much sun block I put
[2:59] Speaker 2: on myself, I know, like my dermatologists is I have
[3:03] Speaker 2: to make an appointment. I already have like welts and
[3:06] Speaker 2: spots from the set because my skin just can't handle
[3:08] Speaker 2: the sun anymore. And I've had melanoma, and it's just
[3:11] Speaker 2: I'm dreading going in.
[3:13] Speaker 1: And forget about your face. You've lasered it down to
[3:16] Speaker 1: baby skin.
[3:16] Speaker 2: Oh, I had a hat on the entire time. I
[3:18] Speaker 2: put a hat on most of the time. Yeah, And
[3:21] Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't even want to take pictures because
[3:23] Speaker 2: you're like a melted, you know, shell of yourself. Niky.
[3:28] Speaker 1: You just missed Frankie from his honeymoon, literally just missed him.
[3:32] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean it was very hot
[3:34] Speaker 2: and beautiful. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful place to visit. Will I
[3:38] Speaker 2: go back, Probably not. It's one of those things like
[3:42] Speaker 2: you know, I've seen it.
[3:43] Speaker 1: I'd rather a long time.
[3:45] Speaker 2: We were there, like eight days, but then you know,
[3:48] Speaker 2: I've been this is like longer. I know. It is
[3:50] Speaker 2: the first time I've I mean the fourth time I've
[3:52] Speaker 2: been to Italy in different areas, and I always say
[3:56] Speaker 2: never going back in July in August it's too hot.
[3:59] Speaker 2: And you back every every single time because it's just
[4:02] Speaker 2: like they do that. Well, one was a wedding, one
[4:04] Speaker 2: was for Spencer's graduation, another one was and then this
[4:07] Speaker 2: time it was a last minute trip and Sophia starts
[4:10] Speaker 2: school in the twenty fourth so we just squeezed it
[4:12] Speaker 2: in and you know, it is what it is. I
[4:15] Speaker 2: got a great workout in Positano walking up and down.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Did walk those stairs? You know, I did not know
[4:21] Speaker 1: they were a thousand stairs when I was there. Well,
[4:24] Speaker 1: and I just started walking and they never ended, and
[4:28] Speaker 1: then you wind up at the top of the mountain
[4:29] Speaker 1: then you gotta walk down, right.
[4:31] Speaker 2: So we also, because we didn't want to do a hotel,
[4:33] Speaker 2: we wanted more privacy, we did another Airbnb, and it
[4:38] Speaker 2: was at the top of the town, which was great
[4:40] Speaker 2: because we walked out our door and there's this wonderful
[4:43] Speaker 2: cafe that we had breakfast at every morning. But to
[4:46] Speaker 2: get to the beach clubs, it was twice as far
[4:51] Speaker 2: on the stairs. Oh, I know, right down to the
[4:54] Speaker 2: beach club. If I sung that town, it would have been,
[4:58] Speaker 2: you know, still stairs. But Nat Sophia I threw up
[5:02] Speaker 2: in her mouth because oh it was one hundred degrees
[5:06] Speaker 2: and humid, and it was just she just would power
[5:09] Speaker 2: through them. She got up to the point She's like,
[5:11] Speaker 2: are you gonna throw ups? And I'm like, it was.
[5:15] Speaker 2: It was rough. Even for people that work out, it
[5:18] Speaker 2: was rough.
[5:19] Speaker 1: The so I stayed at Lasarahnoose, which is beautiful, and
[5:24] Speaker 1: I remember I went in September and the water was cold.
[5:29] Speaker 1: It was too cold for me.
[5:30] Speaker 2: Oh I got the water was so warm, so warm
[5:34] Speaker 2: for us in that They say September the weather starts
[5:39] Speaker 2: changing a little bit, so maybe the water cooled down then.
[5:41] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[5:41] Speaker 1: I think the water cooled down and I ripped off
[5:43] Speaker 1: my big toenail. Thank god. We were another doctor couple
[5:49] Speaker 1: at the.
[5:49] Speaker 2: Time at the beach are on the steps on the.
[5:52] Speaker 1: Steps coming out of the water, because we had a
[5:56] Speaker 1: thing on the rock.
[5:57] Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's different types of beach clubs. Somewhere you're
[6:00] Speaker 2: like not even on the water, like you have to
[6:02] Speaker 2: get down ladders to get to the water.
[6:04] Speaker 1: That was the one I was, Yeah.
[6:05] Speaker 2: And then there's one the one I went to, the
[6:07] Speaker 2: real popular one starts with the A I can't remember.
[6:09] Speaker 2: I'll post all this stuff. That one was just rocky.
[6:13] Speaker 2: But the rocks weren't like sharp, they were just really
[6:15] Speaker 2: big black rocks.
[6:17] Speaker 1: I'm just clumsy. It wasn't on the rockers on the
[6:19] Speaker 1: ladder coming out, Yeah, that's not even Yeah. So yeah
[6:23] Speaker 1: it was. That was rough, but it was so beautiful.
[6:28] Speaker 1: I'd be to go back. I would not go in August,
[6:31] Speaker 1: I would definitely go. I went in September and.
[6:35] Speaker 2: It was time probably, you know, like I asked the
[6:40] Speaker 2: like locals, I'm like, does it get cold. They're like no,
[6:44] Speaker 2: like it doesn't really get that cold. So it would
[6:48] Speaker 2: be nice to go, like, you know, maybe Christmas time something.
[6:51] Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me you bought a cover up on
[6:54] Speaker 1: the side of the beach, because you cannot leave without
[6:56] Speaker 1: getting one of the amazing lace cover ups.
[6:59] Speaker 2: Oh, you mean the stuff you can buy off of
[7:02] Speaker 2: shand but it's there for three hundred dollars.
[7:05] Speaker 1: It's not off of No.
[7:07] Speaker 2: I'm saying it's like aquivallet. I No, I didn't because
[7:10] Speaker 2: I already had everything and I packed a I couldn't
[7:13] Speaker 2: even get souvenirs because I only packed a Carrie on
[7:17] Speaker 2: it and it was packed crazy.
[7:20] Speaker 1: I don't even know how you did that.
[7:21] Speaker 2: I didn't. I only wore.
[7:23] Speaker 1: Suitcases to my son's wedding.
[7:25] Speaker 2: And I only wore like half the stuff.
[7:27] Speaker 1: That's insane. Well, your clothes are probably a lot smaller
[7:30] Speaker 1: than mine. So well, they're just like tiny little sun dresses. Yeah,
[7:33] Speaker 1: tiny little ones.
[7:34] Speaker 2: So I would say the highlight of our trip was
[7:39] Speaker 2: the al Maffi Garden cooking class. Oh I saw a
[7:44] Speaker 2: what's it called al Maffie Haven Garden cookie.
[7:47] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[7:48] Speaker 2: I'll post that to everybody's been asking about it. It
[7:51] Speaker 2: was so much fun over a cliff.
[7:54] Speaker 1: You and Eddie fell in love again. Yes, it was.
[7:57] Speaker 2: Very very People are asking, They're like, how do you
[8:02] Speaker 2: guys keep this going? I'm like, oh, God, don't watch
[8:04] Speaker 2: the season of Orange County because I'll ever do it
[8:07] Speaker 2: as bitching at each other this season.
[8:09] Speaker 1: Well that's what I mean to everybody listening in couples,
[8:13] Speaker 1: and I can't stress this enough. You need to get
[8:16] Speaker 1: out of your environment and regroup with the person you're with.
[8:22] Speaker 1: It's more than date night. It's I feel like, in
[8:27] Speaker 1: a relationship, if you don't take trips together, even a
[8:31] Speaker 1: little trip, an overnight or something, yes, you need that
[8:36] Speaker 1: to reconnect. I'm sorry. I believe in that wholeheartedly. It
[8:40] Speaker 1: can be something as possibly as simple as that every
[8:44] Speaker 1: other month, you know, a weekend. Things are so cheap
[8:48] Speaker 1: now you can find them online. You could do like
[8:51] Speaker 1: something you wouldn't typically do. Like now there's you know,
[8:54] Speaker 1: by us. You could go punkin picking or just you
[8:58] Speaker 1: and your significant other. You guys need to do that
[9:02] Speaker 1: fall in love again.
[9:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of like now that we're empty nesters now,
[9:06] Speaker 2: Like that's why we have Big Bear and we go there,
[9:07] Speaker 2: we get away. It's kind of we call that our
[9:09] Speaker 2: happy place. I mean it's not always happy. Sometimes we're
[9:12] Speaker 2: like no, I know, thank you no. But for the
[9:15] Speaker 2: most part, it's just a great place for us to
[9:18] Speaker 2: get away and have fun. But it was great having
[9:21] Speaker 2: Nico and Sofia with us. We traveled very well together.
[9:25] Speaker 2: Everybody thought that they were brother and sister because Nica
[9:28] Speaker 2: looks like Eddie, Sophia looks like so it was really
[9:32] Speaker 2: for Sophia had a blast they both did at the
[9:34] Speaker 2: cooking class.
[9:35] Speaker 1: It was there was.
[9:36] Speaker 2: Singing, there was dancing. Oh really, the cooks were like
[9:41] Speaker 2: the chefs were like comedians. They had water guns and
[9:44] Speaker 2: if you didn't pay attention, they squirt you in the face.
[9:46] Speaker 2: And okay, a garden where we picked our food and
[9:50] Speaker 2: oh god, I highly highly recommend it. I was kind
[9:53] Speaker 2: of bummed because there is one that I wanted to
[9:56] Speaker 2: get into and it's very popular, but we did it.
[9:58] Speaker 2: But this one, I would do it all over again,
[10:02] Speaker 2: do it all.
[10:02] Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna have to post everything.
[10:04] Speaker 2: I will, I will, I mean I did. I love
[10:07] Speaker 2: to see people go on vacation and I like to
[10:10] Speaker 2: see what they're doing.
[10:11] Speaker 1: Oh I love it.
[10:11] Speaker 2: So I thought, you know what, I'm gonna do the
[10:13] Speaker 2: same thing. I love that post the things like there's
[10:15] Speaker 2: some people that are like you know, in the public.
[10:17] Speaker 2: I don't post while you're away because your house gets wrong,
[10:21] Speaker 2: your house can get robb I'm like, we're gated and
[10:24] Speaker 2: they not take it. I don't know, whatever, no, don't
[10:28] Speaker 2: take it. But yeah, it was great. But then got home,
[10:34] Speaker 2: had to prep for the podcast and got the news
[10:37] Speaker 2: about Hayden. Oh, just to heart, absolutely heartbreaking.
[10:42] Speaker 1: How terrible. And her dad, her parents lost two kids. Yes, yes, so.
[10:48] Speaker 2: Her brother died I think in twenty twenty three and
[10:51] Speaker 2: he was young, like maybe twenty seven, twenty eight years old, but.
[10:54] Speaker 1: He had cardio magali, which is an a heart and
[10:58] Speaker 1: heart yeah. Yeah, and that to lose both your children horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible.
[11:08] Speaker 2: And she has a young daughter, she's twelve, yeah, eleven
[11:11] Speaker 2: or twelve? Yeah, yeah, And.
[11:13] Speaker 1: You need your mom. You need your mom at that
[11:15] Speaker 1: age more than ever I heard. Though. I don't know
[11:19] Speaker 1: the relationship father daughter, But I was asking Paul if
[11:24] Speaker 1: he knew the husband, and he said, he's known to
[11:26] Speaker 1: be a very good, good, nice guy. Well, he has
[11:29] Speaker 1: a great boxer, he.
[11:30] Speaker 2: Has full custody of I did not know the daughter.
[11:33] Speaker 2: That they live in a different country.
[11:36] Speaker 1: Oh, I had no idea what I had read.
[11:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they live in a different country. And
[11:41] Speaker 2: she you know, to be a mom and not have
[11:45] Speaker 2: a child in your life full time is very very difficult.
[11:50] Speaker 2: She was going through postpartum. She was a child actress
[11:54] Speaker 2: that had experienced a lot of things. She from what
[11:57] Speaker 2: I read, depression and she just wrote a book and
[12:01] Speaker 2: it's just heartbreaking. I was just talking to Sophia about it,
[12:05] Speaker 2: and I thought to have a child and have them
[12:09] Speaker 2: in the TV world. I don't know if things are
[12:13] Speaker 2: better now, but I would just would scare the shit
[12:16] Speaker 2: out of me. I told her, it scares me to
[12:18] Speaker 2: even have you and the unreality TV now, Like, it's
[12:20] Speaker 2: just this world is crazy.
[12:23] Speaker 1: It's crazy crazy, It's always been. I feel like it
[12:27] Speaker 1: is better now, but it's not. At the same time, Yeah,
[12:30] Speaker 1: I feel like it's just evil evil, And I mean there.
[12:37] Speaker 2: Was talks about uh, you know, went down the rabbit
[12:40] Speaker 2: hole and listened to so many interviews about her life
[12:45] Speaker 2: and where she was on a yacht filming something with
[12:49] Speaker 2: naked men there and she was a minor.
[12:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just like, what the hell this sick world?
[13:11] Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I did watch The Real House the first
[13:15] Speaker 2: reunion on the plane right home, which was good. So
[13:19] Speaker 2: I missed that. So now we're on the second reunion
[13:23] Speaker 2: for Atlanta, and it was good.
[13:28] Speaker 1: It's been very good first and second the the two
[13:33] Speaker 1: part reunion. So far it's three parts, but so far
[13:36] Speaker 1: the two parts has not disappointed at all. But you know,
[13:42] Speaker 1: the screaming camera and the yelling at each other, it's
[13:47] Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot to watch, it really is.
[13:50] Speaker 1: And thank god they have subtitles because I can't understand topic.
[13:54] Speaker 2: I know, will they talk over each other? There's there.
[13:57] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's.
[13:58] Speaker 1: Almost like you want to block them out, but you
[14:00] Speaker 1: want to hear what they're saying.
[14:02] Speaker 2: But then also, you know, it's frustrating to me. I
[14:05] Speaker 2: watched this and then I think about my time on
[14:09] Speaker 2: my show, and I'm the bad one. I'm the one
[14:14] Speaker 2: that causes you know what I mean, Like, it's just
[14:16] Speaker 2: it's frustrating you're saying that did.
[14:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing compared to what's going on here.
[14:24] Speaker 2: And a lot of the different shows. Yeah, you know,
[14:28] Speaker 2: and maybe they're screaming, yelling, but I do find them
[14:31] Speaker 2: they are very entertaining.
[14:33] Speaker 1: They are very very entertaining. And it just kept going.
[14:38] Speaker 1: How are you with the seating? I thought the seating
[14:40] Speaker 1: was great.
[14:41] Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I loved it. I thought
[14:43] Speaker 2: it was perfect. I mean, so it starts out the
[14:46] Speaker 2: part two where Cynthia and Andy calls her America's friend
[14:52] Speaker 2: because Cynthia is just the She's kind of really the
[14:55] Speaker 2: peacekeeper and the true friend to everybody on the show, and.
[14:58] Speaker 1: She has all the perks of a full time housewife.
[15:02] Speaker 1: She felt really much of a full time housewife. But
[15:05] Speaker 1: doesn't have to show her boyfriend. But we'll get to
[15:08] Speaker 1: that because.
[15:09] Speaker 2: I am on a few times though, right, But she
[15:12] Speaker 2: doesn't have to, No, she doesn't have to. But she
[15:14] Speaker 2: comes out to looking hot as hell and a cat
[15:17] Speaker 2: suit with kind of like she's like Atlanta's superhero. I
[15:22] Speaker 2: was a little confused with the earrings. Did one fall
[15:24] Speaker 2: or was that the.
[15:25] Speaker 1: Look I noticed that? I don't know, I don't know.
[15:30] Speaker 1: I think it was supposed to be a cuff but
[15:33] Speaker 1: for the left ear, but they wound up kind.
[15:37] Speaker 2: Of letting one hang. Didn't we see this in this season?
[15:41] Speaker 2: Like earlier somebody had the same thing going on. Maybe
[15:44] Speaker 2: that's the look where I just I don't know.
[15:47] Speaker 1: She looks great. She looks so happy this guy, It's
[15:52] Speaker 1: almost like he breathed more life into her. She took
[15:55] Speaker 1: her divorce very bad, and I would assume this man
[16:01] Speaker 1: is very nice and a gentleman. And then then they
[16:05] Speaker 1: play their EDM song. Is that what?
[16:08] Speaker 2: Right? I don't know. But we find out that I
[16:11] Speaker 2: didn't know that that Cynthia is singing in the mid season.
[16:14] Speaker 1: Trailer, did you I did not know that, and she
[16:18] Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone. No one there knew that. So that
[16:21] Speaker 1: was definitely, you know, it was it was a surprise.
[16:27] Speaker 1: They're like, wait, what I have to say? Do you
[16:31] Speaker 1: think Drew and and Shamia and.
[16:34] Speaker 2: We're a little jelly, little jelly? I think so? So
[16:37] Speaker 2: she they So Andy's like, let's play the song and
[16:39] Speaker 2: I think it's called the Peach Life and they start
[16:42] Speaker 2: rocking out to especially Andy. I've never seen him.
[16:46] Speaker 1: I know he loves Cynthia.
[16:49] Speaker 2: Also, don't you think that Andy just has so much
[16:51] Speaker 2: fun with them?
[16:53] Speaker 1: He does, and he has more patience for their yelling too.
[16:56] Speaker 1: By the way, for some reason he gets a lot
[16:59] Speaker 1: mess or at the other housewives when they're killing each other.
[17:03] Speaker 2: He just was rocking out, He's jumping up, he's laughing.
[17:07] Speaker 2: What was your thought? I saw? Maybe it happened? Was
[17:10] Speaker 2: it the first reunion with the what's the clapping thing?
[17:15] Speaker 2: The Drew brought it?
[17:17] Speaker 1: I know what you're I don't know that the name
[17:19] Speaker 1: of it.
[17:21] Speaker 2: The slate, the slate, that's what it is. I thought
[17:26] Speaker 2: Andy would be like, oh God, here we go.
[17:28] Speaker 1: But he liked it.
[17:30] Speaker 2: He liked actually went back and got.
[17:31] Speaker 1: It, asked, he even gave he said, a round of
[17:34] Speaker 1: applause for Drew for bringing this sleep. I don't know
[17:37] Speaker 1: that he's a big lover of props.
[17:39] Speaker 2: No, no, nother thing. But then Cynthia asks, well, what
[17:45] Speaker 2: did I miss? And I'm like, girl, you missed a lot.
[17:48] Speaker 1: So his rundown. Andy's rundown was so funny though, don't
[17:51] Speaker 1: you think?
[17:52] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I can't remember it all. I didn't write
[17:55] Speaker 2: it all down, but he just kind of like bullet
[17:58] Speaker 2: point what went down? And she's like, oh, okay. So
[18:01] Speaker 2: Andy brings up the question before the break, Drew's question
[18:04] Speaker 2: to Shemiah, why did you take tell ky Michelle the
[18:07] Speaker 2: other girls did not want to be your friend with
[18:10] Speaker 2: the rest of the group.
[18:12] Speaker 1: But kay Michelle did know who she meant when she
[18:15] Speaker 1: said that, who who? Kay Michelle knew that Shemiah was
[18:20] Speaker 1: talking about other girls.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Do you know who these other girls are? Because and
[18:25] Speaker 2: He's like, we are not talking about those girls, no.
[18:27] Speaker 1: So why are we even talking about it because it
[18:30] Speaker 1: was stupid, but they used it. They shouldn't have used
[18:33] Speaker 1: it in.
[18:34] Speaker 2: The edit then yeah, but then Porsia was like, oh, yes,
[18:39] Speaker 2: it does have to deal with the other girls. You're
[18:42] Speaker 2: manipulating her.
[18:44] Speaker 1: So I think Porscha just kind of like jumped in
[18:46] Speaker 1: on that and used it against her because kay Michelle
[18:50] Speaker 1: wasn't saying it was those girls. I feel like it
[18:53] Speaker 1: was a little bit production in that little thing that
[18:57] Speaker 1: went on there with the you said nobody else wants
[19:01] Speaker 1: to be my friend, Like if they weren't talking about
[19:04] Speaker 1: the girls on the show, it shouldn't have been brought
[19:07] Speaker 1: up right because it made a lot of confusion. But
[19:10] Speaker 1: they used it in the edit and it did kind
[19:14] Speaker 1: of make Shamia look bad, let's face it. And I
[19:17] Speaker 1: hate when people do that. Oh, this one doesn't want
[19:20] Speaker 1: me to be your friend. These people don't want me
[19:22] Speaker 1: to be like they use other people for credibility on
[19:26] Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. And Porscha's right, it is
[19:29] Speaker 1: a manipulation.
[19:30] Speaker 2: It is a manipulation. And do you think watching it
[19:34] Speaker 2: and thinking about the whole season, do you think that
[19:39] Speaker 2: Samia manipulates people like that's no, you don't think so.
[19:45] Speaker 2: I don't think she's a manipulator.
[19:46] Speaker 1: I'm not.
[19:47] Speaker 2: I'm not a but but you don't think like her
[19:50] Speaker 2: going to lunch or dinner with Kay, Michelle and Kelly.
[19:55] Speaker 2: Do you think that was like a little pregame before
[19:58] Speaker 2: the one week before the re union to try to
[20:01] Speaker 2: get her on her side?
[20:02] Speaker 1: Doesn't do that? Who doesn't do that? You don't remember?
[20:05] Speaker 2: It's not why you yelled at to who do you
[20:08] Speaker 2: yell at Margaret?
[20:10] Speaker 1: Margaret?
[20:10] Speaker 2: No.
[20:11] Speaker 1: I did it because she said she invited me to
[20:14] Speaker 1: something that she didn't got and it was just even
[20:19] Speaker 1: you know, it was the fact that she said she
[20:21] Speaker 1: did something she didn't I know what she was trying
[20:23] Speaker 1: to do in the moment, and that's why I got
[20:25] Speaker 1: mad at it. But you could do whoever wants to
[20:29] Speaker 1: do these self producing things. That's not the way I roll.
[20:33] Speaker 1: It's just not I guess I can't knock anybody else
[20:36] Speaker 1: for doing it.
[20:37] Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. I know on our
[20:40] Speaker 2: casts that would always like, Okay, we have to meet,
[20:42] Speaker 2: we have to go over, would come with their ledger
[20:44] Speaker 2: paper with everything written down, and we have to do this.
[20:46] Speaker 1: We could fucking be bothered.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Here's the thing. When you get to that reunion, you
[20:52] Speaker 2: don't know what questions you're going to be asked. You
[20:54] Speaker 2: it goes from one direction to the next. It doesn't work.
[20:58] Speaker 1: This is why I'm against that because here's the thing.
[21:02] Speaker 1: If you have something in your head, if you're walking
[21:04] Speaker 1: onto the scene and you have that person on the show,
[21:07] Speaker 1: the annoying person that calls you and goes, okay, so
[21:09] Speaker 1: this is what's going to be said, and then you're
[21:11] Speaker 1: gonna say this, and then this is what's gonna be said.
[21:14] Speaker 1: When that doesn't happen, you're stuck trying to think about
[21:19] Speaker 1: what to say. And I will never put myself in
[21:23] Speaker 1: that position at all, even in life. I don't play
[21:27] Speaker 1: out what's going to happen because that doesn't typically ever happen. Right,
[21:31] Speaker 1: So now you're stumped.
[21:33] Speaker 2: So I was just wondering and if Shemiah wanted to
[21:35] Speaker 2: prep came Michelle because this is her first reunion for
[21:39] Speaker 2: because they did meet a week before the reunion. Convenient.
[21:43] Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, do they always do this? But
[21:45] Speaker 2: the fact that k Michelle and Shamia got into a fight, no,
[21:51] Speaker 2: like's crazy, like a.
[21:54] Speaker 1: Fight like she got in her face and was punching
[21:58] Speaker 1: her fists like this that would trigger me. I wanted
[22:03] Speaker 1: to hear more about coming back because she does not
[22:06] Speaker 1: have one friend on this show right now.
[22:08] Speaker 2: She has Kelly kind of, but the Kelly, even in
[22:11] Speaker 2: this moment, was like, I don't want to get in
[22:13] Speaker 2: the middle of it, and I don't blame Kelly, like
[22:15] Speaker 2: Kelly's are her own issues with other people. She's like,
[22:18] Speaker 2: I don't think I want to get in the middle.
[22:19] Speaker 1: Why should she get in the middle of it? When
[22:21] Speaker 1: she took on the whole other side of the Couchmia
[22:25] Speaker 1: didn't say a word. I know, I know. Now It's
[22:29] Speaker 1: one thing if the other side of the couch is
[22:31] Speaker 1: your friend, Samia, but nobody there is your friend. And
[22:35] Speaker 1: Kelly's arguing with four people at one time, so like again,
[22:40] Speaker 1: and I will reiterate, if the other people she's arguing
[22:44] Speaker 1: with is your friend, I don't mind you for staying
[22:46] Speaker 1: out of it, but the fact that you don't like
[22:47] Speaker 1: anybody else on the other on the couch, you might
[22:51] Speaker 1: as well stick up for the girl next to you
[22:52] Speaker 1: to give you something to say.
[22:54] Speaker 2: I agree that makes sense to you, yes, absolutely, And
[22:59] Speaker 2: even didn't do you make a comment about that, like
[23:02] Speaker 2: why are you going after like going to that side? Oh, Kelly, yeah,
[23:08] Speaker 2: and she at one point she said something and placed
[23:12] Speaker 2: on the other side of the couch.
[23:13] Speaker 1: And said they weren't bothering anybody. They had nothing to
[23:17] Speaker 1: do with this, and She's like, yeah on the other
[23:19] Speaker 1: couch and Andy's like, where did that come from? And why?
[23:24] Speaker 2: Well, not smart on Kelly's part at all. But then
[23:28] Speaker 2: we get when Shemiah stands up and starts showing him like,
[23:31] Speaker 2: oh shit, what's gonna happen? Because you saw Shemia stand
[23:34] Speaker 2: up and go towards ky Michelle.
[23:37] Speaker 1: And the other girls were like whoa, whoa, like they
[23:40] Speaker 1: thought that was going to be again.
[23:44] Speaker 2: Well, ky Michelle said, you're going to stop this Lyon
[23:48] Speaker 2: and I smacked the table. You're going to stop this
[23:50] Speaker 2: lion and smack.
[23:51] Speaker 1: Was she lying about that? She was that triggered cay
[23:54] Speaker 1: Michelle to do that.
[23:55] Speaker 2: Because she was trying to put words in her head
[23:59] Speaker 2: so when she went the reunion she would say those things.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Trust me, that is what happened. And Kate Michelle is
[24:05] Speaker 2: too fucking smart for that.
[24:07] Speaker 1: Cay Michelle is very sensitive and even Andy said it,
[24:10] Speaker 1: and she's definitely wise to that. And I'm glad that
[24:18] Speaker 1: now she's deciding. She's like a lot of my emotions
[24:20] Speaker 1: were off camera rather than on.
[24:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, and including like her what what did she say?
[24:27] Speaker 2: Her tweets or her tweets, She's almost like confessional bites, right.
[24:32] Speaker 1: So she goes Andy for He's like, you have to say,
[24:36] Speaker 1: I'm sure you're sorry you did that, and he and
[24:40] Speaker 1: she was like, I am now, I am. I love her.
[24:43] Speaker 2: I love Kate Michelle.
[24:44] Speaker 1: I do too. She grew, she grew on me.
[24:59] Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to the Jazzebell comment.
[25:03] Speaker 1: Case says, no, we're not going to spend time on
[25:05] Speaker 1: this actually, because he even said, let's not talk about
[25:08] Speaker 1: the mothers.
[25:09] Speaker 2: Well, I know, but I was like Jezebel at first.
[25:12] Speaker 2: I'm like, it's I didn't know what it meant, and
[25:15] Speaker 2: I guess it means a whore. That's my grandmother used
[25:18] Speaker 2: to call me all the time. It's like a Bible term, right,
[25:22] Speaker 2: I mean it wor a bell? Yeah, I mean it's
[25:24] Speaker 2: an old saying. You know what, my nan, when I
[25:28] Speaker 2: was like five, used to call it. How did she
[25:30] Speaker 2: know that that was gonna be really fitting for me?
[25:32] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[25:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, So when Kay Michelle says that she maya called
[25:35] Speaker 2: Pusia a Jezebel, shes mom and then denied it, and
[25:41] Speaker 2: I'm like Jezebell, So I had to google it and
[25:45] Speaker 2: to figure out what it was. And basically a defeat, deceit, deceitful,
[25:49] Speaker 2: and controlling. And you said, well, in.
[25:55] Speaker 1: My case, we would back in the day if my
[25:58] Speaker 1: grandmother was calling some want to Jezebel. It was like
[26:02] Speaker 1: a reference to a wild, loose woman. Yeah, so it's
[26:06] Speaker 1: a biblical insult basically. Now that's what we're doing at
[26:09] Speaker 1: the reunion here. Well, yeah, I mean it was old,
[26:14] Speaker 1: but that's okay, don't even Yeah, you know what, I
[26:18] Speaker 1: believe the mother said it. I believe the mother said it.
[26:22] Speaker 2: Well, that's not like just something you just pull out
[26:24] Speaker 2: of your ass. Yeah, I mean it's not common. It's
[26:29] Speaker 2: it's not very common, mom.
[26:31] Speaker 1: Don't hold back. And then they went back and forth
[26:34] Speaker 1: with it. But you know what, let's keep the moms
[26:36] Speaker 1: out there, Andy said.
[26:38] Speaker 2: Like, keep them out. I was expecting maybe the moms
[26:40] Speaker 2: to end up being there, and now watching this, I'm like,
[26:43] Speaker 2: there's just no way that they're ever going to be
[26:45] Speaker 2: able to move forward. Portia and Shemiah.
[26:50] Speaker 1: That's done. That, that's done. That's been a long time coming.
[26:53] Speaker 2: That is poring going nowhere. Do you think that Shemia
[26:56] Speaker 2: is not coming back to the show. I know that
[26:58] Speaker 2: there's been.
[26:58] Speaker 1: The way she way I see it right now, and
[27:01] Speaker 1: how there she's sitting there. It's oh, is there rumors?
[27:05] Speaker 1: Well she has no friend on the show? Yeah, she
[27:09] Speaker 1: she doesn't. And I felt like she was really on
[27:12] Speaker 1: an island this year. But you know, we'll see here
[27:18] Speaker 1: here on though the Pinky's bankruptcy. Pinky's bankruptcy has given
[27:23] Speaker 1: me anxiety the whole season, Like if I'm laid on
[27:27] Speaker 1: my credit card or if I don't pay it off
[27:29] Speaker 1: right away, I have anxiety. And I know you're like
[27:33] Speaker 1: that too.
[27:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't like to have bills,
[27:37] Speaker 2: and that comes from I will have bills, but I
[27:40] Speaker 2: don't like to have outstanding bills. I don't like to
[27:43] Speaker 2: have car payments, and that's because I was a single
[27:46] Speaker 2: mom for someon I'm gonna say.
[27:48] Speaker 1: They'll say it, we're both that way for the same reason.
[27:51] Speaker 1: But they seem to feel that Pinky's very dismissive of
[27:56] Speaker 1: her investors' losses and like she's like, Oh, I'm just
[28:01] Speaker 1: gonna file, and they're like, but wait a second. The
[28:03] Speaker 1: way you're saying it seems really like not empathetic to
[28:08] Speaker 1: the people who invested in you, and Pinky kind of
[28:14] Speaker 1: said a lot of stuff around it. Her face got read.
[28:17] Speaker 2: I started to feel sorry for her a little bit
[28:19] Speaker 2: because she is pregnant. You could see she's shaking, you
[28:22] Speaker 2: should you could tell that she was really nervous about this.
[28:26] Speaker 2: And I was with Haedra on this one. If you're
[28:29] Speaker 2: you know, if you were saying you feel like it's
[28:32] Speaker 2: a rebirth, it's like pay your bills, if you're going to.
[28:36] Speaker 1: Brag, well that that was the thing. So I I
[28:42] Speaker 1: kind of didn't disagree with them. But the way we
[28:47] Speaker 1: saw Pinky was very different than the way she is
[28:49] Speaker 1: off camera about it. She kind of tried to show
[28:54] Speaker 1: face and try to be like bold about it, which
[28:57] Speaker 1: didn't come off well but came as else said. I've
[29:00] Speaker 1: been with this woman where she's like cried over this
[29:04] Speaker 1: many nights, many times, many conversations.
[29:08] Speaker 2: So I personally don't know much. I don't know anything
[29:13] Speaker 2: about filing for bankruptcy. I know there's different levels of it,
[29:17] Speaker 2: but so I just started to read like it's not
[29:19] Speaker 2: uncommon for businesses to file bankruptcy versus personal bankruptcy. And
[29:25] Speaker 2: if Pinky filed and she had a lot of investors,
[29:28] Speaker 2: does that mean the investors had to file as well.
[29:33] Speaker 1: I honestly like the people don't know. I don't ever
[29:37] Speaker 1: want to know about it. I don't want to understand it,
[29:39] Speaker 1: because if I understand it, that means I will have
[29:41] Speaker 1: had to go through it. I think that I think
[29:45] Speaker 1: that Pinky just tried to be strong about it. If
[29:48] Speaker 1: I'm if I'm being honest with how I see it,
[29:52] Speaker 1: she tried to be like matter of fact, more matter
[29:56] Speaker 1: of fact about it and just be like, yeah, so
[29:58] Speaker 1: I'm just going to do it just to like kind
[30:01] Speaker 1: of like try to make herself calm with it. I
[30:04] Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.
[30:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have to give Pinky credit. She
[30:08] Speaker 2: was open about it. I'm sure it was coming out.
[30:12] Speaker 2: She knew it was coming out. I don't know if
[30:13] Speaker 2: she got ahead of it or it came out and
[30:16] Speaker 2: she talked about it, but she did. I think where
[30:18] Speaker 2: she kind of screwed up with She's like, it feels
[30:21] Speaker 2: like a rebirth. Yeah, Like that's where the girls. Yeah that,
[30:25] Speaker 2: guys were like, no, I don't think you should have
[30:27] Speaker 2: said that.
[30:28] Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else she was wrong about. Is
[30:31] Speaker 1: never really apologizing to Faedra because Phaedra wasn't the one
[30:35] Speaker 1: that started the rumor about her eating meat. It was Kelly. Yeah,
[30:41] Speaker 1: now Kelly knew. If Kelly knew that Phaedra was getting
[30:45] Speaker 1: blamed for something, she said, why didn't Kelly own up
[30:49] Speaker 1: to it?
[30:51] Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean she did, she did.
[30:54] Speaker 1: Think it's being underplayed by the way.
[30:56] Speaker 2: I think so too. She's obvious late owning up to
[31:01] Speaker 2: about the reunion because she was caught in it.
[31:06] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like production brings it out and Faedra.
[31:12] Speaker 2: You know, but isn't. But don't you think this is
[31:16] Speaker 2: how things work in reality TV. They have to hold
[31:19] Speaker 2: certain stuff so when you do go to the reunion,
[31:23] Speaker 2: we have questions like this.
[31:25] Speaker 1: But did you see I know, and it makes for
[31:28] Speaker 1: good TV, right, did you see that Pinky said that
[31:33] Speaker 1: she uh, Pinky called the higher ups on Phaedra. That's
[31:37] Speaker 1: a big deal in our world, guys, by the way.
[31:42] Speaker 2: But Andy kind of denied it. No, Nope, this is
[31:48] Speaker 2: the part that confused me. Okay, So first she said
[31:52] Speaker 2: she hired she called the higher ups, and then later on,
[31:56] Speaker 2: Andy goes, well, I've known Faedra for many years, and
[32:01] Speaker 2: Fadra like didn't do that, or I would have she
[32:05] Speaker 2: would have called me, or she would have.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Pinky called the higher ups on Fhaedra.
[32:10] Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was fa called the higher ups
[32:13] Speaker 2: on Pinky.
[32:14] Speaker 1: No, Pinky called the higher up on Phaedra.
[32:19] Speaker 2: But it was confusing, And I'm like, why am I confused?
[32:23] Speaker 2: Because if you remember the very beginning, At the very beginning,
[32:33] Speaker 2: Pinky says that Faedra calls the higher ups about something
[32:38] Speaker 2: Pinky said about a device which they wouldn't name, so
[32:46] Speaker 2: I'm assuming a weapon.
[32:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm.
[32:53] Speaker 2: They didn't really get into great detail about it, but
[32:57] Speaker 2: Andy pretty much confirms that Fadri did not call the
[33:00] Speaker 2: higher ups about her comment. I just feel like this
[33:05] Speaker 2: whole story seems to have a lot of moving parts
[33:07] Speaker 2: and we don't.
[33:08] Speaker 1: That we're still confused on. Yeah, so I guess I'll
[33:13] Speaker 1: have to rewatch that part. I don't know. Well.
[33:15] Speaker 2: Phaeder alleges the Pinky made a comment about having to
[33:18] Speaker 2: protect herself with a significant device, and Pinky denies, saying it,
[33:23] Speaker 2: and Andy pretty much denies that he got a phone
[33:26] Speaker 2: call about it. It could have been she went to production.
[33:31] Speaker 2: It could have been, like to Pinky, the higher ups
[33:34] Speaker 2: could have been, you know, executive producer versus going to Bravo, right.
[33:41] Speaker 1: Right, I think it's Bravo they're talking about. But I
[33:48] Speaker 1: guess been a little more clear on that.
[33:53] Speaker 2: I agree with you. And also, I don't really give
[33:56] Speaker 2: a shit if Pinky eats meat or not, doesn't mean
[33:59] Speaker 2: she can't own a vegan restaurant. I don't care.
[34:04] Speaker 1: Do you care? It doesn't matter if she's a vegan
[34:07] Speaker 1: and owns a restaurant that serves me.
[34:09] Speaker 2: No, that's just she's a business woman, Like I don't
[34:12] Speaker 2: really care. To me, I think it's about the waging.
[34:16] Speaker 2: They were bullshitting. I mean, they were just talking. They
[34:19] Speaker 2: were talking shit, and that's all they were doing. Right.
[34:22] Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It was an issue every time
[34:25] Speaker 1: she went somewhere to eat, right right. It was the
[34:30] Speaker 1: whole thing this season. It was the storyline. So of
[34:32] Speaker 1: course they were going to talk about it. Yes.
[34:35] Speaker 2: Whereas a big deal for Pinky is is maybe she
[34:38] Speaker 2: works with PETA or maybe she works with organizations that
[34:43] Speaker 2: things like that that right, a big deal for her,
[34:48] Speaker 2: but as a viewer, as.
[34:50] Speaker 1: An endorsement point of view, yes, it might hurt her endorsements.
[34:53] Speaker 2: Okay, understood, right, Okay, let's move on to Pinky talking
[34:57] Speaker 2: about dating women.
[34:58] Speaker 1: Oh, that that's the trends these days.
[35:02] Speaker 2: Let you know, Andy asked Pinky about her time dating women.
[35:06] Speaker 2: Pinky says, I've munched on some carpets or two in
[35:10] Speaker 2: my lifetime.
[35:12] Speaker 1: I have to say, these girls are very hesitation. Everybody
[35:17] Speaker 1: talks about these things like and there's nothing wrong with it.
[35:21] Speaker 1: They're just and I love, love, love this so much.
[35:24] Speaker 1: They are so open about it. Yes, like I wouldn't
[35:29] Speaker 1: even back nine million years ago when I would get
[35:31] Speaker 1: if I got my period, I would never even talk.
[35:34] Speaker 1: I would be shy to even talk about it. They're like,
[35:37] Speaker 1: I'm munching carpets, I'm dating a guy and a girl
[35:40] Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm letting my husband bang women
[35:45] Speaker 1: like this isn't like I'm watching for this. Do you
[35:49] Speaker 1: think that that honesty? Right? Honesty?
[35:53] Speaker 2: But don't you think that's what it takes to be
[35:57] Speaker 2: one of the best reality stars out there? Not everyone
[36:00] Speaker 2: can be like that. I get it, and I don't
[36:02] Speaker 2: expect everybody to be out there. No, but like I
[36:05] Speaker 2: will reference Carmela from Orange County. She's new, she has
[36:09] Speaker 2: opened up about a lot of stuff in her past,
[36:14] Speaker 2: and to me, like transparency, like that is what makes
[36:19] Speaker 2: a good housewife, that makes them stand out.
[36:23] Speaker 1: We all know what we signed up for. Yeah, and
[36:26] Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. It is not everybody
[36:30] Speaker 1: is being totally honest.
[36:33] Speaker 2: Well, it's hard for some people to just put everything
[36:37] Speaker 2: and there's certain things like for instance, for me with
[36:41] Speaker 2: my daughter, I held back not talking about it for
[36:44] Speaker 2: a long time because she was a minor and it
[36:47] Speaker 2: was hard and it was difficult and it was sad,
[36:49] Speaker 2: and even to this day, I don't want to talk
[36:51] Speaker 2: about it. It's painful, but it gets brought up so
[36:54] Speaker 2: many times and you just have to you just have to.
[36:59] Speaker 1: You do have to do to get by it so
[37:01] Speaker 1: that people don't It's relentless, right, And I've learned this
[37:06] Speaker 1: from when I first came on the show. My mom
[37:09] Speaker 1: used to watch Atlanta from the beginning and she loved
[37:12] Speaker 1: Nini because when they brought up Nini something with her
[37:18] Speaker 1: attorney might have been at the reunion, I don't know.
[37:21] Speaker 1: She's like that's right. I sucked his dick and what now?
[37:25] Speaker 1: And uh, you know, you learn from her, learn from
[37:29] Speaker 1: the best.
[37:30] Speaker 2: There's nowhere to go, that's all where to go. That's
[37:33] Speaker 2: always my advice.
[37:34] Speaker 1: To no one's got anything a the house house.
[37:36] Speaker 2: Yes, that's what me and I think. Carmela had this
[37:39] Speaker 2: conversation a long time ago, and I said, when everything's
[37:42] Speaker 2: out there, they can't weaponize it against two.
[37:46] Speaker 1: Take it from them, Yeah, take it doing that.
[37:51] Speaker 2: They're just open with this cast is just open. I
[37:55] Speaker 2: think they all open. I like them, came Michelle.
[37:59] Speaker 1: You, I thought in the beginning I only got frustrated
[38:03] Speaker 1: with her when she would talk in circles. Yeah, when
[38:06] Speaker 1: she would sit there crying hysterically and not say why, who, what? Where?
[38:12] Speaker 1: When it drove me fucking nuts, And I said, baby,
[38:15] Speaker 1: this isn't for her. The week after that it got better.
[38:19] Speaker 1: The week after that it.
[38:20] Speaker 2: Got even better, got better and better and better. I mean,
[38:23] Speaker 2: there is a learning curve to reality TV. It's not
[38:26] Speaker 2: for everybody. And I think this one that's gonna end
[38:29] Speaker 2: up being she got over the hump a good one.
[38:32] Speaker 1: He definitely, you know, got over the hump. I'll never
[38:35] Speaker 1: forget her talking about her husband's sausage sausage on his scrubs,
[38:40] Speaker 1: like I'll never forget that.
[38:42] Speaker 2: She had some interesting conversation about her husband. I don't
[38:45] Speaker 2: know because I watched two episodes last week, but she
[38:49] Speaker 2: was talking about cheating and guys all guys cheat. And
[38:55] Speaker 2: Andy said, are you in an open relationship? And I
[38:58] Speaker 2: think she said no. But if they're gonna do it,
[39:01] Speaker 2: they're gonna do it.
[39:03] Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. It's the way I was
[39:05] Speaker 1: talked to when I was being raised. I'll never forget
[39:08] Speaker 1: my mother having that conversation with me. I had to
[39:11] Speaker 1: be five years old. We still lived in Patterson. I'm
[39:13] Speaker 1: make bright aub. My mother was doing the dishes and
[39:15] Speaker 1: she looked at me and she said, men are gonna cheat.
[39:18] Speaker 1: Just make sure he don't make a fool out of you.
[39:20] Speaker 1: And I remember this. I can remember where I was
[39:24] Speaker 1: standing so crazy, and I look back and I'm like,
[39:28] Speaker 1: maybe my mom, I'm sure was going through something at
[39:31] Speaker 1: the time. She probably had no one to talk to
[39:34] Speaker 1: and just spoke to me because I was standing there.
[39:36] Speaker 1: But it's funny that I remember that. I wonder if
[39:39] Speaker 1: my mom remembers that problem.
[39:41] Speaker 2: I have to ask me my mom told my grandmother
[39:44] Speaker 2: told my mom the same thing when my dad was
[39:46] Speaker 2: caught cheating on my mom.
[39:48] Speaker 1: And guess why, it's not okay, it's not okay, it's
[39:51] Speaker 1: not okay, it's not.
[39:53] Speaker 2: But it happens. But Pinky goes on to talk about
[39:56] Speaker 2: her lesbian relationships and what does she say, like women
[40:00] Speaker 2: get too clingy for after.
[40:01] Speaker 1: Two weeks, it's good, but then they get clinging and
[40:04] Speaker 1: and I and I have a lot of gay friends,
[40:09] Speaker 1: and they do say that about lesbian couples.
[40:13] Speaker 2: Really gay well, gay men too. They're all. You hear
[40:18] Speaker 2: a lot about the open relationships they're in and cheating and.
[40:22] Speaker 1: They were hearing that, but you hear in the lesbian
[40:26] Speaker 1: community that they are very uh, I don't want to
[40:29] Speaker 1: say controlling, but very like fast and furious in relationships.
[40:35] Speaker 2: Are the lesbian women cheat on each other? Because I
[40:38] Speaker 2: feel like that would be they get.
[40:40] Speaker 1: The U haul in Matt saying they get the U
[40:42] Speaker 1: haul in two weeks. My one friend, he's gay, said
[40:45] Speaker 1: they show up with their cats and move in in
[40:47] Speaker 1: two weeks. Everything is two weeks with when they're talking about.
[40:51] Speaker 2: A lesbian didn't didn't Andy say that about Porsche she'll
[40:54] Speaker 2: bring her U haul in two seconds.
[40:56] Speaker 1: After a day, That's what she said. But and then.
[40:59] Speaker 2: PSA's like, I knew I was the perfect lesbian.
[41:02] Speaker 1: I know, but here here was very interesting for me.
[41:06] Speaker 1: All season, the the cheating rumors, Smia sent Angela an
[41:13] Speaker 1: actual sea synthesis with the whole uh Shemia screwing around
[41:18] Speaker 1: with all the football players.
[41:20] Speaker 2: That's never a good thing when you're on a reality show.
[41:23] Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Do you believe that.
[41:27] Speaker 2: She didn't deny it? Did she.
[41:30] Speaker 1: Well thought that she did.
[41:31] Speaker 2: Did she deny it? Well, what was it about? Stop
[41:34] Speaker 2: talking about my husband? Stop talking about my husband cheating?
[41:37] Speaker 2: What was what was to me?
[41:38] Speaker 1: It says, If Angela wants to keep talking, she needs
[41:41] Speaker 1: to name names. Angela stands by her source regarding the
[41:45] Speaker 1: Falcons players rumors. She did not deny it, but she
[41:50] Speaker 1: said prove it.
[41:54] Speaker 2: Do you think a legal letter was the right way
[41:56] Speaker 2: to go? That those never make Bravo happen?
[42:01] Speaker 1: What else was she going to do? I'll tell you something.
[42:04] Speaker 1: To me, it was not herself at this reunion.
[42:06] Speaker 2: I think I was the first one to give one
[42:09] Speaker 2: of those letters away before. Uh No, I didn't. I
[42:15] Speaker 2: was going through. But the thing is is like I
[42:17] Speaker 2: was going through legal stuff, a divorce, custody, things like that,
[42:22] Speaker 2: and and my castmate was putting stuff purposely out in
[42:26] Speaker 2: the press to make me look better, and I multiple
[42:29] Speaker 2: times said, please stop doing that. There's miners involved in
[42:33] Speaker 2: this and you can't do that.
[42:35] Speaker 1: But if you'll notice here, Kelly jumps in and Kelly says,
[42:40] Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, starts going off, and then
[42:43] Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Angela attacks Kelly and she go,
[42:46] Speaker 1: you don't even have a husband, so you should stop
[42:48] Speaker 1: spreading rumors about hers. And then Kelly says to Angela,
[42:53] Speaker 1: I had a husband for eleven years and didn't need
[42:55] Speaker 1: to get pregnant to have one, So play with somebody else. Hoe.
[43:00] Speaker 2: Oh, so she's saying that Angela got pregnant and that's
[43:03] Speaker 2: why she's to keep Charles. That's Kelly's got some really
[43:07] Speaker 2: low blows. She really yeah, yeah, but so does Angela.
[43:13] Speaker 2: I know what I find Angela's funny.
[43:16] Speaker 1: I just lovers and then I know, listen, But but
[43:21] Speaker 1: I mean, as you noticed, Kelly jumps in and did
[43:25] Speaker 1: stick up for Shemia Dori the yeah, that's true, but
[43:28] Speaker 1: I didn't see Shemia helping her out. But don't you
[43:31] Speaker 1: find at this point all the girls are accusing each other,
[43:35] Speaker 1: most of them, not all of them, of some kind
[43:38] Speaker 1: of cheating scandal. And I feel like it's just all
[43:41] Speaker 1: kind of getting lost in the sexy sauce. Like no,
[43:44] Speaker 1: it is because of the screaming and the yelling. You
[43:47] Speaker 1: forget what they're talking about because you're trying to understand
[43:50] Speaker 1: what they're saying because they're screaming high pitched. It's not
[43:55] Speaker 1: like a conversational banter where they're arguing. They're yelling, and
[44:01] Speaker 1: then I get upset, as you do with background noise
[44:05] Speaker 1: and loud noises and that kind of thing. It just
[44:09] Speaker 1: it's hard to watch, but you can't stop, like a
[44:12] Speaker 1: bad train wreck.
[44:13] Speaker 2: Right. What did you think about in the break Porscha
[44:17] Speaker 2: with Drew telling her that she took a lot of
[44:19] Speaker 2: detector test off camera about Kelly sleeping with a married man.
[44:25] Speaker 1: It's not admissible, okay, whatever. I never thought it wasn't true.
[44:31] Speaker 1: I never thought that that Porscha didn't get that information.
[44:34] Speaker 1: Whether or not it's true or not, I don't know.
[44:37] Speaker 2: I just thought it was I don't think.
[44:39] Speaker 1: That Porscha was lying see in these shows all of
[44:43] Speaker 1: a sudden, if somebody brings something up and then they
[44:46] Speaker 1: get told they're a liar, they feel the need to
[44:50] Speaker 1: defend themselves by proving it.
[44:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean after the light detector test that
[44:58] Speaker 2: was on Orange County Housewives, I would imagine that.
[45:01] Speaker 1: The same actor didn't do it, though I know.
[45:03] Speaker 2: I thought, oh god, when she did that again, I'm like,
[45:07] Speaker 2: if they do the same guy, I'm like, I'm dead.
[45:09] Speaker 2: I'm dead.
[45:10] Speaker 1: That wouldn't been actually funny.
[45:11] Speaker 2: Do you remember when your dad explained to us about
[45:14] Speaker 2: the leave texture test when you were I think you
[45:17] Speaker 2: were in Rhode Island or weren't you.
[45:19] Speaker 1: I can't even remember that. Yes, my dad was in
[45:21] Speaker 1: the car.
[45:22] Speaker 2: But didn't he say, like, it takes hours to get
[45:25] Speaker 2: the response, said a real yes.
[45:27] Speaker 1: He said, it is not something you just hire someone
[45:31] Speaker 1: they come and do and then it's actually admissible. It
[45:34] Speaker 1: is not a valid test. It takes hours, right, and
[45:38] Speaker 1: a very trained person to do it. You just don't
[45:42] Speaker 1: hire somebody to come do it. Like my dad actually
[45:45] Speaker 1: made a good point on that.
[45:46] Speaker 2: He did.
[45:47] Speaker 1: He did. Well, we need any legal advice, like cop
[45:51] Speaker 1: advice stuff. You gotta call the Spagnola family. So that's all.
[45:56] Speaker 2: Well, I was glad that Shemiah eventually apologized is to
[46:00] Speaker 2: Angela for upsetting her. She doesn't know child to be
[46:04] Speaker 2: a cheater, so she she says she misspoke. Well, that's
[46:08] Speaker 2: not really misspeaking.
[46:10] Speaker 1: That's just kind of an accusation.
[46:12] Speaker 2: It's an accusation and it's a lie.
[46:14] Speaker 1: And but there was closure because Angela accepted it and
[46:17] Speaker 1: apologized back. Which want to I'd like to say, I
[46:21] Speaker 1: like to see it. Let's see how long it lasts,
[46:23] Speaker 1: but they would I'll take it.
[46:25] Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'm glad, like these reunions are about resolution,
[46:29] Speaker 2: and I felt like we got apps so far, we've
[46:33] Speaker 2: gotten nowhere with Porsia and Shima.
[46:38] Speaker 1: No, that's not going anywhere.
[46:41] Speaker 2: No, no, So then the whole talk about Porsche says,
[46:46] Speaker 2: you know about the Latti text, the proof that slept
[46:49] Speaker 2: with a married man and took a Lotti text to
[46:51] Speaker 2: test to confirm it, and Andy's like, spoiler alert, let
[46:55] Speaker 2: me guess you passed. Like even him, Andy was like,
[46:59] Speaker 2: are you kidding me?
[47:00] Speaker 1: Right now? I think we've had enough of the lie
[47:03] Speaker 1: detector test. We could kindly say goodbye to them at
[47:07] Speaker 1: this point. So that's that, that is it ended on
[47:12] Speaker 1: Porscha getting the non admissible, non credible lie detector test.
[47:18] Speaker 2: But I loved when Porsia says, well, in the Court
[47:21] Speaker 2: of Housewives of Atlanta, it's admissible.
[47:23] Speaker 1: She's so funny and she's so I don't think I've
[47:27] Speaker 1: ever seen her so happy. But if you meet Swag
[47:31] Speaker 1: in person, you'll understand.
[47:32] Speaker 2: Why call her swag? You call her swag.
[47:36] Speaker 1: She's got such swag though, Like she is so smooth,
[47:41] Speaker 1: Like I want to meet her, You want to meet her,
[47:44] Speaker 1: You definitely want to meet her. And I'm happy for Porsia.
[47:47] Speaker 1: She's been through a lot and she's coming out on top.
[47:50] Speaker 2: So don't you think we're seeing a little bit of
[47:55] Speaker 2: more of Porsia this reunion than we have, like the
[47:59] Speaker 2: bigger personality, Like she's always great, always great. But I
[48:03] Speaker 2: felt like, you know, she was a little bit reserved
[48:06] Speaker 2: this season, or even coming back last season, a little
[48:08] Speaker 2: bit more reserved this season.
[48:10] Speaker 1: Last season before before sway, she was going through it,
[48:14] Speaker 1: she was going through a divorce. Yeah, you know, having
[48:18] Speaker 1: you know, worried about polar she was worried about that,
[48:21] Speaker 1: and uh, you know she was asking you know, when
[48:24] Speaker 1: your kids are going through it, and it was just
[48:27] Speaker 1: a whole thing. I remember she said Polar was asking
[48:29] Speaker 1: for him and that bothered her a lot, and she
[48:32] Speaker 1: didn't know how it was going to wind up. And
[48:35] Speaker 1: it's even at the best, even if you're secure financially,
[48:39] Speaker 1: going through a divorce, it's scary, you know, it's hard.
[48:43] Speaker 1: She she has been through it, Porsha, and she's she's
[48:47] Speaker 1: done very very well, thank God. And I'm happy for her,
[48:51] Speaker 1: and I wished her all the luck with sway, and
[48:54] Speaker 1: her mom approves and wants.
[48:56] Speaker 2: I think we all want this happiness for Porscha for sure.
[49:00] Speaker 1: For sure, I want it for everyone, all right. So
[49:03] Speaker 1: that's another.
[49:04] Speaker 2: That's guys, thank you so much for tuning in, and
[49:06] Speaker 2: we'll have part three next week.
[49:08] Speaker 1: See you soon.
[49:09] Speaker 2: Bye,

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