# Legally Brunette: Kill A Friend, Steal Her Baby - Taylor Parker

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 16 Jun 2026, 42 min.

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Taylor Parker lied consistently throughout life, claiming she had chronic illnesses and multi-million dollar inheritances being kept from her. But there was one, final lie that led Taylor to death row. How did a prosthetic baby bump and a fake 10-month pregnancy lead to her murdering her friend and kidnapping her unborn baby? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode Illegally Brunettes. I'll be
[0:04] Speaker 1: your host today, Emily Simpson with my co host Shane Shane. Okay,
[0:10] Speaker 1: first of all, we pivoted a little bit for this episode.
[0:13] Speaker 1: We were going to talk about something else today, but
[0:15] Speaker 1: then I was getting I would say, flooded with direct
[0:18] Speaker 1: messages on my Instagram with people saying are you watching
[0:23] Speaker 1: Maternal Instinct on Netflix? And you have to do a
[0:26] Speaker 1: podcast on it? So I watched it. Yeah, And first
[0:31] Speaker 1: of all, I would have to say that if you
[0:35] Speaker 1: thought Mackenzie Shirilla was the most hateable person that we've
[0:40] Speaker 1: come across recently and talked about and everyone's talking about,
[0:44] Speaker 1: I think Netflix was like, you know what, here, hold
[0:47] Speaker 1: my beer and let me introduce you to Taylor Parker.
[0:53] Speaker 2: Oh, well, murder's murder. They're all bad.
[0:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this one, this one is.
[0:58] Speaker 2: This So this one requires more a of a like
[1:03] Speaker 2: an overt act on the suspects part to commit the
[1:08] Speaker 2: crime rather than just pushing the gas.
[1:11] Speaker 1: Pedal, Right, and also all the deception and all the
[1:15] Speaker 1: crazy things that she did leading up to the actual
[1:18] Speaker 1: so crime.
[1:19] Speaker 2: So well, what is the crime's murder?
[1:21] Speaker 1: Well, let's go through it. Taylor Parker was a Texas
[1:23] Speaker 1: woman who was who murdered her friend, twenty one year
[1:27] Speaker 1: old Reagan Simmons Hancock at her home in New Boston, Texas.
[1:32] Speaker 1: This happened in October of twenty twenty. Taylor had been
[1:35] Speaker 1: faking a pregnancy for ten months and killed Reagan to
[1:39] Speaker 1: steal her unborn baby and pass it off as her own.
[1:43] Speaker 1: The case recently gained renewed attention from the Netflix documentary
[1:47] Speaker 1: called Maternal Instinct. Let's go through this, Let's talk a
[1:50] Speaker 1: little bit about Taylor in her background. I think it's
[1:54] Speaker 1: important to try to figure out, you know, this is
[1:56] Speaker 1: we talk about this a lot when we talk about
[1:59] Speaker 1: crime and people and people who commit crimes, always the
[2:02] Speaker 1: theme of nature versus nurture. And when you think about
[2:07] Speaker 1: someone like Taylor Parker, I can't help but think, is
[2:11] Speaker 1: she the way that she is and she did the
[2:13] Speaker 1: things that she did, Because it's not only the act
[2:15] Speaker 1: of murder at the end when she when she murders
[2:18] Speaker 1: you know, her friend, but it's the deception leading up
[2:21] Speaker 1: to that. I mean, the amount of lies and manipulation
[2:27] Speaker 1: and faking a pregnancy and going through all jumping through
[2:30] Speaker 1: all the hoops and doing all the things that she did.
[2:32] Speaker 1: Was she just born that way? Or was it circumstances?
[2:37] Speaker 2: No one's born.
[2:38] Speaker 1: You don't think that there's some psychosis DNA somewhere where
[2:42] Speaker 1: someone's just born like that, like, no matter what their
[2:45] Speaker 1: family life is, that she was just going to end
[2:47] Speaker 1: up the way she is. No.
[2:49] Speaker 2: No, that would mean you're born the way you are
[2:52] Speaker 2: and this is what it is, and then you shouldn't
[2:54] Speaker 2: complain about you childhood. Beau's got nothing to do with anything.
[2:57] Speaker 1: Well, I mean I complain sometimes, but not all the time,
[3:00] Speaker 1: all right. Taylor Parker was born in nineteen ninety two
[3:03] Speaker 1: to Mark Morton and SHAWNA Pryor. She was known to
[3:06] Speaker 1: fabricate her background, often claiming to come from wealthy oil
[3:10] Speaker 1: money and said she was an heir to a million
[3:13] Speaker 1: dollar Syrup empire.
[3:15] Speaker 2: Was she or she made that up?
[3:16] Speaker 1: She made all that up. But I got confused between
[3:19] Speaker 1: because I believe in the documentary they said that she
[3:22] Speaker 1: claims that she was getting an inheritance, that she had
[3:24] Speaker 1: a wealthy oil family. But then when I was reading
[3:28] Speaker 1: about her after the documentary, she also claimed to come
[3:31] Speaker 1: from a Syrup family. So she went back and forth
[3:34] Speaker 1: between mayrup like maple syrup. Yeah, so I don't know.
[3:39] Speaker 1: I guess she went back and forth between whether when
[3:41] Speaker 1: she told people that she came from a wealthy family,
[3:44] Speaker 1: it was either oil.
[3:44] Speaker 2: She couldn't keep her story straight, or sir, I forgot
[3:47] Speaker 2: it was that petroleum.
[3:51] Speaker 1: She married twice before meeting her soon to be boyfriend
[3:54] Speaker 1: Wade Griffin. Now Wade Griffin is part of the documentary
[3:57] Speaker 1: and they interview him an She divorced man named Tommy
[4:01] Speaker 1: wa Casey in twenty seventeen and then married Hunter Parker
[4:05] Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Now, she married the second guy, Hunter Parker,
[4:10] Speaker 1: shortly after her divorce from Tommy. She married Tommy in
[4:13] Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and she had a son with him. Okay,
[4:16] Speaker 1: she also had a daughter, but I'm not sure who
[4:18] Speaker 1: she had the daughter with. In my research after the fact,
[4:22] Speaker 1: I couldn't really figure that out. So I don't know.
[4:24] Speaker 1: But she did have a son with Tommy, her first husband.
[4:26] Speaker 1: She also gave up her parental rights to that son
[4:29] Speaker 1: when he was four years old. Oh good, Like she's like,
[4:31] Speaker 1: she said, you can have him.
[4:33] Speaker 2: Basically, but you can't really do that. I mean, she
[4:35] Speaker 2: just gave him up well she gave him up.
[4:37] Speaker 1: You know you're right, because the judge said, well, you know,
[4:40] Speaker 1: I can't.
[4:41] Speaker 2: Term she can't remove a parent right from the last.
[4:44] Speaker 2: So basically because he's a planted with someone else and
[4:46] Speaker 2: they adopt and then you lose your parental rights. But
[4:49] Speaker 2: you can't just give up because everyone would be giving
[4:52] Speaker 2: up their children, right.
[4:53] Speaker 1: So basically the judge was like, well you have I'm
[4:56] Speaker 1: going to give you joint custody and you have to
[4:57] Speaker 1: pay him a little bit of child support, but I'll
[4:59] Speaker 1: just make him the primary.
[5:02] Speaker 2: But not your children. Right.
[5:03] Speaker 1: Then, shortly after she divorced from her first husband, she
[5:07] Speaker 1: married a second guy named Hunter Parker. This is in
[5:09] Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and then she divorced him in twenty nineteen.
[5:13] Speaker 1: Taylor had two children, a daughter named Emerson and a
[5:16] Speaker 1: son named Trey, from these relationships. She also underwent gastric
[5:21] Speaker 1: bypass surgery in twenty fourteen, a tubal ligation that same year,
[5:26] Speaker 1: and a hysterectomy in twenty fifteen, making it physically impossible
[5:31] Speaker 1: for her to have more children. I believe the way
[5:34] Speaker 1: I understood it from the interviews and also from what
[5:37] Speaker 1: I read after the fact after watching this documentary was
[5:40] Speaker 1: that she was adamant about not having more children, and
[5:43] Speaker 1: that she asked for a hysterectomy like she wanted Oh really,
[5:46] Speaker 1: she wanted it removed. She she didn't want to have
[5:48] Speaker 1: any more children, didn't want to. She already gave up
[5:50] Speaker 1: a son who was four at the time. She didn't
[5:52] Speaker 1: want him.
[5:53] Speaker 2: I want to give up my uterus rights right and
[5:58] Speaker 2: give them away. I don't want to.
[6:00] Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want the kids, and also take my.
[6:02] Speaker 2: Arrises, take all the moving parts away.
[6:04] Speaker 1: In August of twenty nineteen, she meets Wade Griffin. Now
[6:08] Speaker 1: Taylor met he was a hog farmer. His name's Wade
[6:11] Speaker 1: Griffin and she met him at a rodeo in August
[6:13] Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. Now Wade is in this documentary. They
[6:17] Speaker 1: interview him a lot. They interview his mother, she's also
[6:21] Speaker 1: a part of it, and some family friends that knew
[6:24] Speaker 1: Taylor and new Wade. I would say to me, I
[6:27] Speaker 1: find Wade frustrating. But he doesn't seem to have much
[6:30] Speaker 1: of a personality, doesn't really talk much, doesn't show a
[6:33] Speaker 1: lot of emotion, and I don't even I couldn't even
[6:37] Speaker 1: tell if he even liked Taylor or wanted to be well.
[6:42] Speaker 2: Apparently not. They're not together.
[6:43] Speaker 1: Anymore because she's on death row. She immediately begins telling
[6:47] Speaker 1: lies to impress him, claiming she was heir to millions
[6:50] Speaker 1: and oil and gas not.
[6:52] Speaker 2: So broiling gas, oil and gas, oil and.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Gas, oil and gas royalties. She even faked checks worth
[6:58] Speaker 1: millions of dollars, one for eight million that Wade tried
[7:01] Speaker 1: to cash at a bank.
[7:05] Speaker 2: What do you want to do? I don't know, cash
[7:07] Speaker 2: million dollars.
[7:08] Speaker 1: Here's the part that didn't make sense to me though
[7:10] Speaker 1: they're talking about in the documentary that she claims she
[7:13] Speaker 1: tells Wade and tells his family that she's in heir.
[7:15] Speaker 1: You know, she's going to inherit all this money she
[7:17] Speaker 1: comes from oil and gas or whatever. The hold up
[7:20] Speaker 1: is that her mom's trying to block it because she
[7:22] Speaker 1: says she doesn't get along with her mom and they
[7:23] Speaker 1: have this, you know, tumultuous relationship, and her mom's trying
[7:26] Speaker 1: to block this money. But she's going to get it
[7:28] Speaker 1: from her grandma. So they go out and they preemptively
[7:32] Speaker 1: make a bunch of purchases, thinking like.
[7:35] Speaker 2: They spent their money before they got it right.
[7:37] Speaker 1: But this is what I don't understand. They don't have money.
[7:40] Speaker 1: She doesn't have.
[7:40] Speaker 2: Money on credit obviously.
[7:42] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but they bought he bought like one hundred
[7:44] Speaker 1: thousand dollars brand new truck.
[7:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, on credit, I guess or something.
[7:51] Speaker 1: He bought a brand new tractor. And they went and
[7:54] Speaker 1: looked at a four million dollar farm. And she faked
[7:57] Speaker 1: documents basically from people claiming that she's getting this inheritance,
[8:02] Speaker 1: so that she could continue to go through the process
[8:04] Speaker 1: of like looking at a four million dollar farm, buying it,
[8:07] Speaker 1: having a real estate agent, all the things. She also
[8:10] Speaker 1: had multiple phones, so she was, you know, always having.
[8:16] Speaker 2: She's in the oil industry, right, she has a lot
[8:18] Speaker 2: of people to talk to.
[8:19] Speaker 1: So then twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, this is when
[8:22] Speaker 1: the fake pregnancy begins. So shortly after the relationship began,
[8:25] Speaker 1: Taylor told Wade that she was pregnant.
[8:27] Speaker 2: Did he want a kid? That's what I'm saying, or
[8:30] Speaker 2: she's just thinking, I'll I'll real I'm in I don't.
[8:33] Speaker 1: I don't know what Wade wants because I'm telling you
[8:35] Speaker 1: he's in the document.
[8:36] Speaker 2: It's a tractor in a farm he wants.
[8:37] Speaker 1: He likes hogses farming, he's very simple and he doesn't
[8:43] Speaker 1: to me. My takeaway was that he didn't seem to
[8:46] Speaker 1: really have a lot of emotions one way or the
[8:49] Speaker 1: other about Taylor. They live together, but I think it's
[8:52] Speaker 1: because she probably said, you're my boyfriend now and I'm
[8:53] Speaker 1: going to move in with you when I live here.
[8:55] Speaker 2: I go catch this check and he's like, okay.
[8:57] Speaker 1: And he doesn't seem to have any type of emotion
[9:01] Speaker 1: one way or another. No backbone right. Shortly after the
[9:05] Speaker 1: relationship began, Taylor told Wade she was pregnant, at first,
[9:08] Speaker 1: claiming she was carrying twins. Taylor later said a car
[9:12] Speaker 1: accident caused her to miscarry, but I guess she only
[9:15] Speaker 1: lost one. That's what she says, because she still has
[9:18] Speaker 1: you know, because she's still.
[9:19] Speaker 2: And did this guy ever go to the doctor with
[9:21] Speaker 2: her once? Yeah?
[9:22] Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. Her timing of this fake
[9:24] Speaker 1: pregnancy worked in her favor because it was during COVID,
[9:27] Speaker 1: so she always had the excuse to the doctor and
[9:30] Speaker 1: he couldn't come to the doctor because he wasn't allowed
[9:32] Speaker 1: to be there. In February of twenty twenty, she announced
[9:36] Speaker 1: that she was pregnant again. To maintain a lie during
[9:39] Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic. She used lockdown restrictions as a
[9:43] Speaker 1: convenient excuse for why Wade was not able to accompany
[9:45] Speaker 1: her to any of her doctor's appointments. She also purchased
[9:49] Speaker 1: a prosthetic baby bump, bought baby clothes and supplies, and
[9:53] Speaker 1: the couple even held a gender reveal party. The gender
[9:56] Speaker 1: reveal party kills me.
[9:58] Speaker 2: And she picked the gender.
[10:00] Speaker 1: She just went with girl. She was like, I'm just
[10:02] Speaker 1: gonna have at They had a gender reveal party and.
[10:06] Speaker 2: She's wearing this fake baby bump.
[10:08] Speaker 1: Yes, and they even had I don't have to.
[10:11] Speaker 2: Keep getting a bigger baby bump every month.
[10:13] Speaker 1: No, That's the other thing. People were starting to notice
[10:15] Speaker 1: that it didn't really look like she was pregnant, and
[10:17] Speaker 1: that she wasn't really like progressing. And sometimes I don't know,
[10:21] Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like she even forgot to put it on.
[10:23] Speaker 1: But then she would put it on and take photos
[10:27] Speaker 1: of herself and post on Facebook all the time and
[10:29] Speaker 1: be like, you know, thirty two weeks, thirty four weeks,
[10:32] Speaker 1: you know, you know, with the photos holding the belly,
[10:35] Speaker 1: I mean, and the gender reveal party, I don't know,
[10:39] Speaker 1: they're just I feel like they're overrated, and it's like
[10:41] Speaker 1: everybody tries to do some interesting kind of gender reveal thing,
[10:45] Speaker 1: but then to not be pregnant and to be faking it,
[10:49] Speaker 1: and then to even go to the links of.
[10:52] Speaker 2: Having it's already cringey. Now you're faking the cringey right,
[10:56] Speaker 2: fight your friends. How did she reveal family?
[10:59] Speaker 1: I believe her two children were there, but apparently according
[11:03] Speaker 1: to the documentary, she didn't really see her own children
[11:06] Speaker 1: very much. I don't think well she gave them for
[11:09] Speaker 1: just owned one right, but they should tried or she
[11:12] Speaker 1: tried to, but they both I believe both of her
[11:15] Speaker 1: kids were at the gender reveal and they like led
[11:17] Speaker 1: a pony out was like pink blows in its hair
[11:22] Speaker 1: or something stupid. It showed it was all they had
[11:25] Speaker 1: actual footage of, you know, because people were videoing.
[11:28] Speaker 2: You know, we're going to see like a SpaceX rocket
[11:31] Speaker 2: like in Pink and Blue.
[11:33] Speaker 1: Well that would take a lot of money, so that's
[11:35] Speaker 1: going to be a wealthy couple. And her fake due
[11:39] Speaker 1: date was scheduled for September of twenty twenty.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Did they show her fake or her fake pregnancy photos
[11:45] Speaker 2: on the documentary?
[11:46] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[11:47] Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Was she like half naked, like to show
[11:49] Speaker 2: her belly, or she always.
[11:51] Speaker 1: Had a shirt on. But she was. She was very
[11:54] Speaker 1: consistent in posting her pregnancy process.
[11:58] Speaker 2: Updates her progress, download the apps to on the pregnancy
[12:01] Speaker 2: trackers and stuff.
[12:02] Speaker 1: Probably she also, I believe it's sure we can probably,
[12:07] Speaker 1: I'm sure she got gifts. Probably. She also you can
[12:11] Speaker 1: buy which I didn't know you could do this, but
[12:14] Speaker 1: I guess there's there's.
[12:15] Speaker 2: You know, we learn you can buy masks to look
[12:17] Speaker 2: like other people and wear them right.
[12:19] Speaker 1: Well, Also there's a website where you can buy fake
[12:23] Speaker 1: sonogram photos.
[12:24] Speaker 2: You can put why would you do that? Why couldn't
[12:26] Speaker 2: you just download on the internet?
[12:28] Speaker 1: Because they on this site you can actually put your
[12:31] Speaker 1: name and.
[12:33] Speaker 2: It's probably an app by now.
[12:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, So you can create your own fake sonogram photos
[12:38] Speaker 1: by inputting your name and like the hospital or your
[12:42] Speaker 1: doctor office, and you can put all the info in
[12:45] Speaker 1: and then order it and they mail it to you.
[12:47] Speaker 1: It's a fake sonogram.
[12:48] Speaker 2: And who does this besides those who who are trying
[12:50] Speaker 2: to fake a pregnancy. I don't know.
[12:52] Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like someone does it as
[12:53] Speaker 1: a joke, but or someone who's going to commit fetal abduction.
[12:59] Speaker 2: So I feel like that's the only the latter seems
[13:01] Speaker 2: likely that.
[13:02] Speaker 1: Would be your clientele.
[13:04] Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's not very many people.
[13:06] Speaker 2: They should be giving the sales data to the FBI.
[13:09] Speaker 2: Here's a bunch of people that bought fake sonograms and
[13:11] Speaker 2: baby prosthetic bumps. Right.
[13:14] Speaker 1: Twenty one year old Reagan Simmons Hancock had met Taylor
[13:17] Speaker 1: Parker when she hired her as a photographer for her
[13:20] Speaker 1: wedding in September of two thousand and eight. So Taylor
[13:26] Speaker 1: decided to be a photographer.
[13:28] Speaker 2: Okay, So Taylor was hired by Reagan.
[13:30] Speaker 1: Yes, and so she got a job taking wedding photos
[13:33] Speaker 1: for Reagan. She did not know her prior to that,
[13:37] Speaker 1: but when she came to the wedding and took photos,
[13:41] Speaker 1: they were interviewing people that were friends of Reagan's and family,
[13:45] Speaker 1: you know, Reagan's mom is part of the documentary, and
[13:48] Speaker 1: they were saying that she just kind of instead of
[13:51] Speaker 1: just being the photographer, she just kind of immersed herself
[13:54] Speaker 1: and friends with all the everyone there and stayed the
[13:58] Speaker 1: whole time and went to the p and then became
[14:01] Speaker 1: friends with Reagan, who was the bride. The two became
[14:05] Speaker 1: close friends, and the months that followed, Reagan was thirty
[14:08] Speaker 1: five weeks pregnant with her daughter and she named her
[14:10] Speaker 1: Braxlin Sage Hancock. And this is in October of twenty twenty.
[14:15] Speaker 2: You know.
[14:15] Speaker 1: Also one more thing besides the gender reveal, she also
[14:18] Speaker 1: did pregnancy photos like a professional session with Wade.
[14:23] Speaker 2: Oh she did.
[14:24] Speaker 1: Like you know how women when they're pregnant, they like
[14:26] Speaker 1: to do the professional with clothes on. Yeah, well yeah,
[14:29] Speaker 1: with clothes.
[14:29] Speaker 2: I don't know's I'm just wondering, when's this Wade guy
[14:32] Speaker 2: going to see this fake baby bump?
[14:34] Speaker 1: He doesn't. That's another thing that annoyed me.
[14:36] Speaker 2: About the way it's not intimate at all, and she's
[14:39] Speaker 2: just like social distancing the whole time.
[14:41] Speaker 1: I guess so, but so they do. I was just
[14:44] Speaker 1: blown away. First of all, the gender reveal blew me away.
[14:47] Speaker 1: I was like, really, this girl's faking it and she
[14:49] Speaker 1: does a gender reveal.
[14:50] Speaker 2: Well, why wouldn't you want to Why wouldn't you want
[14:51] Speaker 2: all the attention that comes with a fake pregnancy?
[14:54] Speaker 1: I guess, But I mean then she does she does
[14:56] Speaker 1: the full blown professional photographer pregnancy photos with a horse
[15:03] Speaker 1: she wanted. She reached out to the photographer, said, yeah,
[15:06] Speaker 1: she wanted to lay on a horse, like have her
[15:09] Speaker 1: pregnancy photos taken on a horse.
[15:11] Speaker 2: Because the photos, yes show him on the documentary, Yes, yes,
[15:16] Speaker 2: and he's right there with her, he's with her. He
[15:18] Speaker 2: ever put his hand on her tummy.
[15:19] Speaker 1: No, he holds the horse. And then she's like next
[15:22] Speaker 1: to the horse, and she's got her hair done and
[15:24] Speaker 1: she's got makeup and full ware. Huh yeah, with a
[15:28] Speaker 1: fake baby bump. And I just want to shake Wade.
[15:31] Speaker 1: I want to shake him and say, Wade, what is
[15:34] Speaker 1: wrong with you? I just don't. I don't find him
[15:38] Speaker 1: to be the least bit sophisticated. I think he just
[15:41] Speaker 1: was out trapping hogs and she lived in the house
[15:44] Speaker 1: and made dinner for him, and that was like the
[15:46] Speaker 1: extent of But here's what bothers me. There were many
[15:49] Speaker 1: many people who went to him and told him that
[15:52] Speaker 1: they thought that there was something going on, and they
[15:55] Speaker 1: thought that she was faking it. So he was on notice.
[15:58] Speaker 1: His mother didn't believe her. She had a friend, a
[16:01] Speaker 1: good friend that knew that she had a hysterectomy, that
[16:03] Speaker 1: saw that she was posting on Facebook that she was pregnant,
[16:07] Speaker 1: and the friend was reaching out to his family saying,
[16:10] Speaker 1: she's taking pregnancy.
[16:11] Speaker 2: I never once thought, let me check your stomach.
[16:14] Speaker 1: No, and that's what I and I'm sitting there watching the.
[16:16] Speaker 2: Documentary sold all his problems right there.
[16:18] Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching the documentary going, Wade, it's easy.
[16:23] Speaker 1: This is such an easy we can figure this out.
[16:25] Speaker 1: And five seconds, all you have to do is confront
[16:28] Speaker 1: Taylor and say, show me your baby bump. Show me.
[16:33] Speaker 1: All these people are saying you're faking it. My mom
[16:35] Speaker 1: says it, my family's.
[16:36] Speaker 2: Said, say you just start to take your shirt off
[16:38] Speaker 2: and say let's have sex and then see what happens.
[16:40] Speaker 1: Well, she didn't want to be intimate.
[16:42] Speaker 2: She told him that, she told him, she made it clear.
[16:45] Speaker 1: She made it clear, then she would He said she
[16:47] Speaker 1: would always change in the bathroom and with the door close.
[16:50] Speaker 1: And they obviously, I mean, because she's not really pregnant.
[16:53] Speaker 1: But I'm saying this could have been solved so easily
[16:56] Speaker 1: if he just had the gumption or the balls or
[17:00] Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, to just go up to
[17:03] Speaker 1: Taylor and say, everyone saying that you're faking this, show
[17:06] Speaker 1: me your baby bump. Let's prove them wrong.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Some million ways. He could have called the doctor, he
[17:12] Speaker 2: could have popped in on her when she was in
[17:14] Speaker 2: the bedroom.
[17:15] Speaker 1: You know there was another thing too.
[17:18] Speaker 2: Did they ever show the real baby bump, like as evidence?
[17:22] Speaker 1: What do you mean the real baby bump? There is
[17:23] Speaker 1: no baby bump?
[17:24] Speaker 2: Well, she bought a fake one. Well fake.
[17:28] Speaker 1: I don't know if they had the actual prosthetic that
[17:30] Speaker 1: she wore. I don't know. Maybe maybe, But also I
[17:35] Speaker 1: guess because this is such a small town. Even the
[17:39] Speaker 1: people in the obgyn office, they interviewed them as well,
[17:43] Speaker 1: because they knew that she'd had a hysterectomy. And then
[17:46] Speaker 1: she was posting on Facebook that she was pregnant, So
[17:50] Speaker 1: there were so many people on notice that she was
[17:52] Speaker 1: faking this pregnancy, and everyone was just kind of talking.
[17:56] Speaker 2: About it, and we always like.
[18:00] Speaker 1: Themselves, and you know, everybody's kind of pointing out that
[18:03] Speaker 1: this must be fake. You know, she's nine months pregnant now,
[18:06] Speaker 1: like what is she going to do now? And the
[18:08] Speaker 1: medical office where they the obgyn that knew that she
[18:12] Speaker 1: had had a hysterectomy, they even said, I believe in
[18:15] Speaker 1: the documentary they made a point of like they were
[18:17] Speaker 1: watching it unfold on Facebook and because they were trying
[18:20] Speaker 1: to figure out like what she was going to do.
[18:22] Speaker 1: But that's what bothers me the most is that this
[18:25] Speaker 1: crime could have been prevented if someone.
[18:29] Speaker 2: Well someone just like pulled the curtains out right, right right.
[18:33] Speaker 1: Because she goes to the links that she goes to,
[18:36] Speaker 1: because she panics, because she's been fake pregnant for ten months.
[18:39] Speaker 1: She has to produce it got to ten months. She
[18:42] Speaker 1: has to produce a baby, right. She either has to
[18:46] Speaker 1: come clean, yeah, or produce a baby, right, And so
[18:50] Speaker 1: she goes with a baby. I have to go find
[18:53] Speaker 1: a baby. But my point is is that if she
[18:56] Speaker 1: ever got called out by Wade, or if he he
[19:00] Speaker 1: stood his ground and said, everybody's saying you're faking it,
[19:03] Speaker 1: show me your baby, bomp right now, if it would
[19:06] Speaker 1: have been proven prior to the ten month mark where
[19:09] Speaker 1: she starts to freak out, this whole crime could have
[19:12] Speaker 1: been prevented. All right, let's get to the actual crime.
[19:22] Speaker 1: This happened on October ninth of twenty twenty.
[19:25] Speaker 2: We haven't even got to the crime yet. Actually, a
[19:27] Speaker 2: fake gender reveal party should be a crime.
[19:29] Speaker 1: That should be a crime. I think everyone that had
[19:31] Speaker 1: to attend the fake gender reveal, should get back like
[19:35] Speaker 1: pain and suffering, yeah, right, and.
[19:37] Speaker 2: She should return the gifts, right.
[19:39] Speaker 1: Okay, so we're at ten months. The woman's been faking
[19:41] Speaker 1: a pregnancy for ten months now, and everyone's like.
[19:44] Speaker 2: It might very well be the longest fake pregnancy anyone
[19:47] Speaker 2: ever had performed.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Probably, So now Taylor's freaking out because she has to
[19:51] Speaker 1: produce a baby or.
[19:52] Speaker 2: Talk about pressure, right, So Taylor a little bit of stress.
[19:56] Speaker 1: Taylor goes to Reagan's home in New Boston, Texas at
[19:59] Speaker 1: approximate at least seven thirty am and attacks her. You know,
[20:03] Speaker 1: in the documentary, they don't give details of how she
[20:08] Speaker 1: murders her, other than we know that she takes a
[20:10] Speaker 1: scalpel because she's going to perform a C section. But
[20:14] Speaker 1: I was like, how did she overpower this woman?
[20:17] Speaker 2: You know, bonked her on the head?
[20:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, so she does. She attacks her. I don't know
[20:21] Speaker 1: it said blood force trauma. I found that after the fact,
[20:24] Speaker 1: but I don't.
[20:25] Speaker 2: Know it's the legal term. The layman's term is bonked
[20:27] Speaker 2: her on the head.
[20:28] Speaker 1: Right, but the legal term is blunt force trauma, or
[20:32] Speaker 1: that's what the autopsy said. Reagan also suffered one hundred
[20:35] Speaker 1: and thirteen sharp force injuries, fifteen stab wounds, and ninety
[20:39] Speaker 1: eight in sized wounds. She also suffered thirty nine blunt
[20:43] Speaker 1: force injuries, likely from a hammer. Taylor cut her open
[20:48] Speaker 1: hip to hip, removing braxln from Reagan's womb. That is,
[20:53] Speaker 1: I mean, that is some serious psycho psychotic behavior.
[20:59] Speaker 2: And this is her home, Reagan's home.
[21:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they were friends. So she probably just
[21:03] Speaker 1: stopped by and knocked on the door and said, hey,
[21:05] Speaker 1: you want to have coffee?
[21:07] Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, she was in her home, right, And she.
[21:09] Speaker 1: Goes in and she takes a scalpel. She has a scalpel,
[21:12] Speaker 1: and I guess they believe that the blunt force trauma
[21:15] Speaker 1: came from a hammer.
[21:16] Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a murder kit I've never seen before.
[21:19] Speaker 2: The fake baby bump, a scalpel, and a sonogram amazonics
[21:27] Speaker 2: that only can result in murder.
[21:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know what else is so sad about
[21:34] Speaker 1: this story is Reagan had another child, a three year
[21:37] Speaker 1: old daughter, that was in the house when this crime occurred.
[21:39] Speaker 1: She also did Google searches a tailor of how to
[21:44] Speaker 1: do a C section. Oh yeah, so I mean you're
[21:47] Speaker 1: talking about someone preparing. It's not like it was a
[21:50] Speaker 1: heat of the moment, you know what I mean. It
[21:53] Speaker 1: was there was premeditated preparation.
[21:55] Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Reagan's three year old daughter was in the home and
[21:58] Speaker 1: witnessed some of the attacks that was left physically unharmed.
[22:03] Speaker 1: Reagan's mother, Jessica Brooks, she's part of the documentary. They
[22:06] Speaker 1: interview her. She speaks a lot. She was the one
[22:09] Speaker 1: that discovered her daughter's body in a pool of blood.
[22:12] Speaker 1: You know. She talks about not being able to get
[22:15] Speaker 1: a hold of her daughter and stopping by her home
[22:17] Speaker 1: and going in and finding her, and she's she talks
[22:22] Speaker 1: about the scene. Can you I mean, can you imagine
[22:24] Speaker 1: blunt force trauma.
[22:26] Speaker 2: The scene to be able to understand what it was
[22:28] Speaker 2: probably like, but.
[22:29] Speaker 1: For a mother to have to walk into your daughter's
[22:33] Speaker 1: home and to see that, and then I believe she
[22:37] Speaker 1: called the stepfather and she told him not to go
[22:39] Speaker 1: in and because it was just too horrific of a scene.
[22:43] Speaker 1: Later that same morning, a Texas State trooper stopped Taylor
[22:46] Speaker 1: in decalb, Texas, which was nearby. She was found with
[22:50] Speaker 1: the newborn Braxln in the car with her and told
[22:52] Speaker 1: officers she had just given birth in her car and
[22:55] Speaker 1: was headed to the hospital. What are the chances of
[22:58] Speaker 1: So that's bodycam footage from the police officer when they
[23:01] Speaker 1: pull her over, the show the body footage. No way,
[23:04] Speaker 1: that's really interesting because you know, because now you know
[23:07] Speaker 1: the facts that.
[23:08] Speaker 2: They start for a moving violation, right.
[23:10] Speaker 1: I think she was driving erradically moving violations, and so
[23:13] Speaker 1: they pull her over and he has the bodycam footage.
[23:16] Speaker 1: You know, the camera is walking up to the car.
[23:19] Speaker 1: They don't show the baby. No, yeah, you can't see
[23:23] Speaker 1: it from you if.
[23:23] Speaker 2: They could have blurted it out yet, but you know
[23:28] Speaker 2: what just happened, right, So now you're watching and knowing
[23:31] Speaker 2: what is right, what the facts are.
[23:33] Speaker 1: Right, they actually show that footage in the beginning before
[23:36] Speaker 1: you know all of the facts. They I believe, they
[23:38] Speaker 1: start the documentary out by showing the cop walking up
[23:41] Speaker 1: to her car and she's like panicky in the car,
[23:44] Speaker 1: I just gave birth. She keeps referring to wait as
[23:47] Speaker 1: her husband. I believe, like, my husband's going to meet
[23:49] Speaker 1: me at the hospital. I just gave birth.
[23:51] Speaker 2: She didn't give it. She delivered a.
[23:53] Speaker 1: Baby, right. So then they actually get her to the
[23:56] Speaker 1: hospital and then you have all the footage of her
[23:58] Speaker 1: in the hospital.
[23:59] Speaker 2: Well, I'm guessing that the police officer right there couldn't
[24:03] Speaker 2: be so quick to know what was happening. There's probably
[24:06] Speaker 2: a baby and blood and maybe crying, and she's panicky,
[24:10] Speaker 2: and so he's thinking, is save the baby and this
[24:13] Speaker 2: potential mother they gave birth.
[24:15] Speaker 1: So they get her to the hospital with this baby.
[24:18] Speaker 1: The baby doesn't live. You can see her in the
[24:20] Speaker 1: hospital bed and they're having conversations with her because the
[24:22] Speaker 1: doctor in the emergency room basically flat out like in
[24:25] Speaker 1: front of her says, this woman didn't give birth. I
[24:27] Speaker 1: mean you can tell, right, I mean.
[24:29] Speaker 2: A woman who just like she's got jeans on and
[24:31] Speaker 2: a belt and there's no blood anywhere.
[24:33] Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's obvious that she because when a
[24:36] Speaker 1: woman gives birth, I think it's obvious that a woman
[24:38] Speaker 1: gives Especially.
[24:39] Speaker 2: To a doctor, they're good he or she is going
[24:41] Speaker 2: to quickly identify symptoms of it.
[24:43] Speaker 1: And they keep saying to her. She's in a hospital
[24:45] Speaker 1: bed and they keep saying to her, are you sure
[24:47] Speaker 1: you give birth to this baby, because it doesn't look
[24:49] Speaker 1: like you gave birth? And she's like, I did, I did?
[24:51] Speaker 1: I gave birth to a baby. What are you talking about? Like,
[24:54] Speaker 1: She's actually like, don't call me a liar, Like everyone's crazy, right,
[24:58] Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I just gave birth to
[24:59] Speaker 1: a baby. So then they the police asked the doctor
[25:03] Speaker 1: to give her an exam to determine whether she gave
[25:05] Speaker 1: birth or not. He does the exam, He's like, I
[25:08] Speaker 1: don't need to do an exam.
[25:10] Speaker 2: He does not give birth, and he walks out.
[25:13] Speaker 1: He's walking out of the room and he talks to
[25:15] Speaker 1: the cops and he's like, shouldn't shouldn't give birth? But
[25:19] Speaker 1: then right, so then an investigator comes into the room
[25:23] Speaker 1: and he pulls up a chair right next to her,
[25:25] Speaker 1: and he's like, where'd the baby come from? And she's like,
[25:27] Speaker 1: what do you mean I gave birth to a baby?
[25:28] Speaker 1: And he's like, you didn't give birth to this baby,
[25:30] Speaker 1: So like, where did this baby come from? Yes, this
[25:34] Speaker 1: is great, Yeah, there's footage of all of this, and
[25:37] Speaker 1: she just acts like she just has no idea what's
[25:39] Speaker 1: going on, Like anating room right now, she's in a
[25:42] Speaker 1: hospital bed.
[25:43] Speaker 2: But where's the footage there's actual security camera footage.
[25:47] Speaker 1: No, it's I'm sure there's a cop in the room.
[25:49] Speaker 2: It's his body.
[25:49] Speaker 1: Can't footage right, Yeah, that's right. No, I mean it's
[25:52] Speaker 1: great because you have real life.
[25:54] Speaker 2: I love it.
[25:55] Speaker 1: Footage of her being pulled over by the cops, of
[25:58] Speaker 1: her saying she gave birth of the baby in the car,
[26:01] Speaker 1: but then you can't see the baby, of her in
[26:04] Speaker 1: the hospital bed claiming she had just given birth. Of
[26:07] Speaker 1: the conversation between the cops and the doctor, and the
[26:09] Speaker 1: doctor's like, this lady didn't give birth, you know what.
[26:11] Speaker 1: I like, this is obvious. Why are we even doing this?
[26:16] Speaker 1: And then the investigator, like a detective, not just a
[26:19] Speaker 1: cop in you know, police uniform, but I mean a
[26:21] Speaker 1: detective comes in, pulls a chair up next to her bed,
[26:24] Speaker 1: and it's like, where did the baby come from? And
[26:26] Speaker 1: you know it's gonna take a little bit for ever.
[26:28] Speaker 2: He's alive right now, right.
[26:29] Speaker 1: I don't know exactly when the baby dies.
[26:31] Speaker 2: Baby. Oh, the baby did not live.
[26:33] Speaker 1: The baby did not live. The baby died. I don't
[26:35] Speaker 1: know if the baby died in the car or when
[26:38] Speaker 1: the baby got to the hospital. But the baby does
[26:40] Speaker 1: not live.
[26:41] Speaker 2: The doc mary, the baby did not survive.
[26:43] Speaker 1: Yes, the baby did not survive. These are small towns.
[26:48] Speaker 1: She murdered in one small town and then ends up
[26:50] Speaker 1: in a hospital in another small town close to each other.
[26:53] Speaker 1: I'm saying it probably didn't take long for all of
[26:56] Speaker 1: the pieces to come together, that they just that there
[27:00] Speaker 1: was a young mother found murdered.
[27:03] Speaker 2: So now the mother has been discovered by authorities because
[27:07] Speaker 2: while she's like in close in time to when she's
[27:11] Speaker 2: pulled over, right, so on the police dispatch, there's a
[27:14] Speaker 2: murder and a missing baby of a pregnant lady that
[27:17] Speaker 2: was murdered and a baby missing, and then there's a
[27:19] Speaker 2: baby that popped up by a lady claiming she gave
[27:22] Speaker 2: birth to him.
[27:24] Speaker 1: And also you know, when they were interviewing the the OBG,
[27:28] Speaker 1: I n the doctors that had known Taylor previously from
[27:32] Speaker 1: when she had the uters removed and everything. I mean,
[27:35] Speaker 1: I believe they were putting all this together too. I
[27:37] Speaker 1: believe they might have even you know, contacted investigators and
[27:41] Speaker 1: all they were all it's such a small town. Everyone
[27:44] Speaker 1: was involved and putting the pieces together right quickly.
[27:48] Speaker 2: And I think it would have been done so even
[27:50] Speaker 2: if it was in a large town like La or Chicago,
[27:52] Speaker 2: but it would it would have taken more time.
[27:56] Speaker 1: So Taylor was taken into custody after that, Braxlin, that's
[27:59] Speaker 1: what I said. The baby did not survive. Taylor was
[28:02] Speaker 1: charged with capital murder. I tell you, you know, we always
[28:06] Speaker 1: talk about the death penalty and how I'm not pro
[28:10] Speaker 1: death penalty just because of the mistakes that can be
[28:12] Speaker 1: made on death row where you know, We've done lots
[28:15] Speaker 1: of episodes and stories and I've been involved with the
[28:17] Speaker 1: Ennocent's Project for so long, and there's people that end
[28:20] Speaker 1: up on death row, you know, that are there because
[28:23] Speaker 1: of an eyewitness testimony or statement or something. And to me,
[28:27] Speaker 1: that's not enough to corroborate that someone should be on
[28:29] Speaker 1: death row. And that's why I'm not always a proponent
[28:31] Speaker 1: of the death sentence. However, in this case, I would
[28:36] Speaker 1: say a death sentence for this woman is appropriate. And
[28:39] Speaker 1: I'm glad that she's in Texas because she's the seventh
[28:44] Speaker 1: woman in Texas to end up on death row and
[28:47] Speaker 1: I have a feeling that she will actually be executed
[28:50] Speaker 1: at some point. Well, we're going to get to that.
[28:52] Speaker 1: So she's charged with capital murder. The reason that she
[28:55] Speaker 1: was charged with capital murder and that she's eligible for
[28:58] Speaker 1: the death sentence is because it was in hands to
[29:00] Speaker 1: capital murder because of the kidnapping charge along with the murder,
[29:05] Speaker 1: So it was kidnapping murder.
[29:10] Speaker 2: I never understood that. Why can't be murder and kidnapping, Like,
[29:12] Speaker 2: I don't know why kidnapping makes it worse? Like she
[29:15] Speaker 2: killed someone and then they're like, I don't know. Well,
[29:19] Speaker 2: either way, she should be put away for life or
[29:21] Speaker 2: put to death.
[29:22] Speaker 1: Evidence showed that Taylor had researched how to fake a
[29:25] Speaker 1: pregnancy and perform a Sassarian section online. That was the prosecutors.
[29:29] Speaker 1: So prosecutors also brought additional charges related to the death
[29:33] Speaker 1: of Braxlin, showing premeditation. Right, that's that's part of the
[29:38] Speaker 1: capital murder is the premeditated part of it.
[29:40] Speaker 2: The plan, the plans, you had time to deliberate, right,
[29:43] Speaker 2: and he still followed through on it, and he want
[29:45] Speaker 2: him dead.
[29:45] Speaker 1: Right, And that was the fact that she had researched
[29:48] Speaker 1: how to fake a pregnancy, that she had faked a
[29:50] Speaker 1: pregnancy for ten months, that she had had all these
[29:54] Speaker 1: multiple cell phones lies, she had faked documents about an inheritance,
[30:00] Speaker 1: she had searched how to do a C section, she
[30:03] Speaker 1: had taken a scalpel with her, so Obviously, the prosecution
[30:07] Speaker 1: is showing that this isn't a heated the moment type
[30:09] Speaker 1: of thing. This isn't manslaughter. This is a premeditated, planned out,
[30:14] Speaker 1: deliberate murder. Taylor's trial began September twelfth, of twenty twenty
[30:20] Speaker 1: two in Bowie County, Texas. Over twenty five days, there
[30:23] Speaker 1: were one hundred and forty two witnesses that testified. Oh way,
[30:27] Speaker 1: the prosecution laid out the full scope of Taylor's deception.
[30:31] Speaker 1: The fake checks.
[30:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's saying she had a whole timeline ten months.
[30:39] Speaker 2: Arguably that ten months she was going to commit this
[30:41] Speaker 2: a murder at some point, like she knew and she
[30:45] Speaker 2: you know. The fake all that she did to fake
[30:48] Speaker 2: pregnancy all the way for ten months shows that it
[30:53] Speaker 2: can show that she was planning a murder well and
[30:56] Speaker 2: thus capital punishment.
[30:58] Speaker 1: Fake checks, the prosteta belly, the fake sonogram, the parties,
[31:03] Speaker 1: the parties, the fake gender revealed, the fake pregnancy, and
[31:07] Speaker 1: also the prosecution detailed the brutality of the attack.
[31:11] Speaker 2: Telling all the first responders that she just delivered a baby.
[31:15] Speaker 2: It's her baby.
[31:16] Speaker 1: So what was the defense's strategy in this trial? The
[31:19] Speaker 1: defense attempted to argue that Taylor was not sane at
[31:23] Speaker 1: the time of the crime, but the prosecution countered by
[31:26] Speaker 1: emphasizing the extensive planning. You know, I believe obviously they're
[31:31] Speaker 1: going to try to go with some type of insanity
[31:34] Speaker 1: like she's.
[31:35] Speaker 2: Not that's always the plea when it's like a just
[31:38] Speaker 2: picture the turning me in like this is bad. I
[31:42] Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. Let's just say you're crazy, right,
[31:45] Speaker 2: like that's all there is, That's all that's left. But
[31:47] Speaker 2: you can't it's crazy.
[31:49] Speaker 1: Take away from how well thought out everything was and
[31:54] Speaker 1: thought deceptive and how much time effort, planning and everything
[31:58] Speaker 1: that went into it.
[32:00] Speaker 2: Planned a party.
[32:01] Speaker 1: Yes, she did. Also, I read after the fact because
[32:05] Speaker 1: I looked up a little bit more information about the trial,
[32:08] Speaker 1: that the defense knew that the evidence against her was
[32:10] Speaker 1: so strong. They really just focused on trying to keep
[32:12] Speaker 1: her off of death row. They were trying to just
[32:16] Speaker 1: go for a life sentence instead of death row. So
[32:19] Speaker 1: they argued that because the baby. They argued that the
[32:23] Speaker 1: baby was dead at the time of the kidnapping, so
[32:26] Speaker 1: that you couldn't have an actual kidnapping if the baby
[32:29] Speaker 1: was dead. So they were trying to do.
[32:34] Speaker 2: Before she took the baby, so it's not kidnapping. It
[32:38] Speaker 2: was just transporting a corpse.
[32:40] Speaker 1: That's when you're arguing the letter of the law and
[32:43] Speaker 1: not the intent of the law. That's when you're trying
[32:46] Speaker 1: to find a loophole and say, well, the baby wasn't alive, kidnap.
[32:51] Speaker 1: You know, obviously none of it worked, because.
[32:57] Speaker 2: Who's gonna set that aside? Like, you make a good point, right.
[33:01] Speaker 1: Taylor did not testify on her own behalf, which I
[33:04] Speaker 1: mean any I don't care. I'm sure she had a
[33:06] Speaker 1: public defender, but anyone's going to say you should not
[33:09] Speaker 1: go up there. You lie about everything.
[33:11] Speaker 2: You'll probably be killed if you.
[33:13] Speaker 1: Go out there. The jury convicted Taylor of capital murder.
[33:16] Speaker 1: The evidence against her was so overwhelming that the jury
[33:18] Speaker 1: took less than sixty minutes to convict her of murder,
[33:22] Speaker 1: capital murder, and kidnapping. Then there's the next phase, which
[33:26] Speaker 1: is the sentencing phase. This was on November ninth of
[33:30] Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. After a separate penalty phase, Taylor Parker
[33:33] Speaker 1: was sentenced to death. She became one of only seven
[33:36] Speaker 1: women on Texas death row, and she is the youngest
[33:38] Speaker 1: out of all of them. She was only twenty seven
[33:41] Speaker 1: years old when she committed this crime. This is a
[33:43] Speaker 1: young girl with a full life ahead of her.
[33:47] Speaker 3: That just she's lived a full life. She had relationships,
[33:50] Speaker 3: she already had two marriages, got ridic kids. Then you know,
[33:54] Speaker 3: was going to buy a farm and attractor. She was
[33:57] Speaker 3: getting inher at a bunch of oil. And I mean
[33:59] Speaker 3: this lady like created like this whole story of like
[34:02] Speaker 3: a full life.
[34:04] Speaker 2: She did more at it by the age twice than.
[34:06] Speaker 1: Most people do their whole life. Well, she pretended to
[34:09] Speaker 1: do more by the age of twenty seven than most
[34:11] Speaker 1: people do. Taylor's attorneys appealed to the Texas Court of
[34:15] Speaker 1: Criminal Appeals, arguing that prosecutors had unfairly used testimony about
[34:20] Speaker 1: her weight loss, surgery, and personal life to fat shame
[34:24] Speaker 1: her and trivialize her character to the jury, citing a
[34:28] Speaker 1: January twenty twenty five Supreme Court ruling and the Brenda
[34:31] Speaker 1: Andrew case as precedent. Brenda Andrew is the only woman
[34:35] Speaker 1: on death row in Oklahoma. She was convicted of conspiracy
[34:38] Speaker 1: and first degree murder and the death of her husband.
[34:41] Speaker 1: And we'll have to talk about Brenda Andrew until death.
[34:44] Speaker 1: Do us part we'll have to do an episode on that.
[34:46] Speaker 2: Now, do we have more wives killing husbands?
[34:48] Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to look up those statistics
[34:50] Speaker 1: because I don't know, we'll have to see. I'm going
[34:52] Speaker 1: to go with husbands. I'm going to say, statistically, I
[34:54] Speaker 1: feel like it's probably more husbands that kill wives than
[34:56] Speaker 1: wives that kill husbands. But I could be wrong. However,
[35:00] Speaker 1: I have never heard a fat shaming argument, and the
[35:03] Speaker 1: appeals court it's shaming defense, the fat shaming defense. In
[35:15] Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals rejected
[35:18] Speaker 1: all twenty five points of appeal and upheld Taylor's conviction
[35:21] Speaker 1: and upheld the death sentence. In May of twenty twenty six,
[35:25] Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court declined to hear her case. She
[35:29] Speaker 1: remains on Texas's death row with no execution dates set
[35:33] Speaker 1: as of June of twenty twenty six. Taylor's case has
[35:37] Speaker 1: recently gained wide public attention again due to the Netflix
[35:40] Speaker 1: documentary Maternal Instinct, which began streaming June twelfth of twenty
[35:46] Speaker 1: twenty six, which I know a lot of you have
[35:48] Speaker 1: watched because you've all been dming me saying please talk
[35:52] Speaker 1: about this case. I read an article that had to
[35:55] Speaker 1: do with the director of this documentary, and she said
[35:58] Speaker 1: that she purpose fully did not want to interview Taylor,
[36:03] Speaker 1: which she probably could have done because we used to.
[36:06] Speaker 1: We saw Mackenzie Scherrilla, she had an interview, you know,
[36:09] Speaker 1: in her documentary. She said. I asked I wanted people
[36:13] Speaker 1: to remember Reagan. She was this young, beautiful, loving and
[36:16] Speaker 1: loved mother who was just completely ripped from the earth,
[36:19] Speaker 1: like she was struck by a bowlt of lightning. It's unfathomable,
[36:22] Speaker 1: unfathomable that someone could have done that to her, and
[36:25] Speaker 1: I hope that she is remembered for not just this crime,
[36:29] Speaker 1: but for being an amazing wife, sister, daughter, and mother.
[36:32] Speaker 1: So I think that she made a conscious effort or
[36:35] Speaker 1: choice to not allow Taylor to have her own voice
[36:40] Speaker 1: in this to take away from that. Also, I just
[36:45] Speaker 1: wanted to give a little statistics about this is called
[36:48] Speaker 1: fetal kidnapping. What Taylor Parker did is called fetal kidnapping,
[36:53] Speaker 1: which it.
[36:55] Speaker 2: Does well.
[36:57] Speaker 1: It does. Here's the statistics on it. I wanted to
[36:59] Speaker 1: look it up to see how often it really does happen.
[37:02] Speaker 1: Because there's kidnapping, which is abduction, which is kidnapping a child,
[37:06] Speaker 1: but this is fetal kidnapping. So in there were twenty
[37:10] Speaker 1: one confirmed cases of fetal abduction in the US from
[37:15] Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven to twenty twenty two, so that's not
[37:21] Speaker 1: a large amount, but twenty one from eighty seven to
[37:24] Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. In about ninety percent of these incidents,
[37:28] Speaker 1: the mother was killed or died as a result of
[37:30] Speaker 1: the attack. In nine of the twenty one cases, the
[37:34] Speaker 1: unborn fetus did not survive the trauma of the premature removal.
[37:39] Speaker 1: So that's just some statistics on fetal kidnapping. Yeah, here's
[37:45] Speaker 1: some of my final thoughts, because this is what when
[37:48] Speaker 1: we do cases. Some of them are just tragic and
[37:51] Speaker 1: there's probably nothing that can be done. It was just
[37:54] Speaker 1: inevitable and it was going to happen. However, I feel
[37:58] Speaker 1: like there's some pivotal cases we've talked about where there's
[38:01] Speaker 1: a moment in the case where you can think that
[38:04] Speaker 1: could have been prevented. You know, I always go back
[38:07] Speaker 1: to Gabby Petito when she gets stopped in Moab. I
[38:10] Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily it's not a duty of
[38:14] Speaker 1: the police officers to I don't know if it's in
[38:17] Speaker 1: a handbook that they would have to call her parents
[38:19] Speaker 1: or something. But but that is a moment when if
[38:23] Speaker 1: someone just had a moral inclination.
[38:27] Speaker 2: To say right to say the same thing, someone kind
[38:32] Speaker 2: of calling her out could have made.
[38:35] Speaker 1: A difference, right, And that's why I think. I look
[38:38] Speaker 1: at Wade, I listened to his interviews. He doesn't have
[38:40] Speaker 1: a lot of emotion. You know, he doesn't seem to
[38:42] Speaker 1: like love Taylor or dislike her or like her. He
[38:45] Speaker 1: doesn't seem to really have much emotion at all about her.
[38:48] Speaker 1: But if he would have said, at some point, proved
[38:53] Speaker 1: to me that you're pregnant because all these people are
[38:56] Speaker 1: saying that you're not and that you're faking it, that
[38:58] Speaker 1: would have if she was discovered, if it was if
[39:02] Speaker 1: the cat was out of the bag, if she was
[39:04] Speaker 1: proven to be a liar about the pregnancy.
[39:06] Speaker 2: The gig is up.
[39:07] Speaker 1: The gig is up.
[39:08] Speaker 2: Murder exactly.
[39:09] Speaker 1: So I just can't help but think if someone just
[39:13] Speaker 1: stepped up and and you know, made her, called her out,
[39:19] Speaker 1: her out, and said, I prove that you're pregnant because
[39:21] Speaker 1: everybody's saying you had a hysterectomy.
[39:23] Speaker 2: Well I would it would hope that We take away
[39:26] Speaker 2: from this as the next time we see someone faking
[39:28] Speaker 2: a pregnancy, we try to call it out ahead of.
[39:32] Speaker 1: Have that moral duty to do that. So if you
[39:36] Speaker 1: think someone's faking a pregnancy, call them out, call them
[39:39] Speaker 1: out on it, make them prove that they're pregnant, to
[39:41] Speaker 1: have them lift that shirt up, show that belly, not
[39:44] Speaker 1: a prosthetic belly. We want to see a real belly.
[39:47] Speaker 1: You know. Another case I always think about is Kristin Smart.
[39:50] Speaker 1: When we talked about Christmin Smart, there were pivotal moments
[39:52] Speaker 1: when she separated.
[39:54] Speaker 2: Which one was she san Luis obispo that, Yeah, that
[39:59] Speaker 2: was abductor what was his name, Chester.
[40:02] Speaker 1: Chester the Moluster. I'm just saying, if this kid is
[40:05] Speaker 1: known as Chester the Molester, that's his nickname. And then
[40:08] Speaker 1: he says, I'll.
[40:10] Speaker 2: Take this drunk, simple guideline, simple rules we should follow
[40:14] Speaker 2: that would result in less murder.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Her death could have been prevented if just someone else
[40:20] Speaker 1: walked back to her dorm room with her. That's it.
[40:23] Speaker 1: So anyway, I just wish someone would have just called
[40:26] Speaker 1: Taylor Parker out on this fake pregnancy. All right, Well,
[40:31] Speaker 1: you know what, Thank you guys so much for recommending
[40:33] Speaker 1: this case. It was really interesting. I liked researching it.
[40:36] Speaker 2: The documentary or the episode was called Maternal Instinct. Maternal
[40:40] Speaker 2: Instinct on Netflix.
[40:42] Speaker 1: If you haven't had the chance to watch it, it's
[40:43] Speaker 1: definitely well.
[40:44] Speaker 2: That body Camp footage is the reason I watch it.
[40:47] Speaker 2: We talked about it all day long, but watching that
[40:48] Speaker 2: body footage Body Camp footage.
[40:50] Speaker 1: Is, Yeah, it's very interesting to see her behavior and
[40:54] Speaker 1: the way that she behaves. And just to think that
[40:57] Speaker 1: there's people out there that behave like that, that lie
[41:02] Speaker 1: that easily, that create fake stories and stick to them, right,
[41:08] Speaker 1: and they live amongst us, right, and you know, we're
[41:12] Speaker 1: forced to be here in black.
[41:14] Speaker 2: It's like, who are these people? Are? They? Real?
[41:16] Speaker 1: Insanity to me to think that someone could do all
[41:20] Speaker 1: of the things that she did, just not just the
[41:24] Speaker 1: lying and the manipulating and the constant lying and the
[41:26] Speaker 1: lines as buying.
[41:28] Speaker 2: A scalpel, yes, like she really thought about it, yes,
[41:32] Speaker 2: and thought, wait, this knife isn't good enough. I need
[41:34] Speaker 2: something more, right, And she googled. She found where to
[41:37] Speaker 2: buy a scalpel and a hammer and an a prosthetic
[41:40] Speaker 2: belly and a prosthetic belly. I wonder if it's all
[41:42] Speaker 2: the same website.
[41:43] Speaker 1: I don't know, that's hope, not all right. Thank you
[41:46] Speaker 1: guys so much for listening to legally Brunettes. As always,
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