# Long Live Liz (RHORI Recap)

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 1 Jun 2026, 56 min.

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The Two Ts and Dolores dish up the drama recapping RHORI… Two of the ladies may agree to disagree on Liz’s behavior. Then, Alicia may have pulled on our heartstrings this episode, but Jo-Ellen chose to push people’s buttons. Plus, are the girls really coming around to Rosie?? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of two Teas in
[0:18] Speaker 2: a Pod. Myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
[0:20] Speaker 3: And Tama Judge and Dolores Catana.
[0:24] Speaker 4: Hello girls, Hello, Hello, Hi guys.
[0:28] Speaker 2: I'm so such I feel like the three of us
[0:30] Speaker 2: haven't been together in a while.
[0:32] Speaker 5: I know, I know, and what an.
[0:34] Speaker 3: Episode for the three of us to be together on.
[0:38] Speaker 3: I know this is not going to be an easy
[0:40] Speaker 3: episode for you to recap, Dolorus, because you are very
[0:42] Speaker 3: close to Liz. But you know, Teddy's got her opinions
[0:47] Speaker 3: and I have maybe an unpopular opinion.
[0:50] Speaker 4: So I'm excited to get all this.
[0:53] Speaker 5: You know, that's what we're here for, and let's do it.
[0:58] Speaker 5: I mean, okay, So to.
[1:01] Speaker 2: Start, I'm gonna apologize a little bit for those of
[1:04] Speaker 2: you guys who are very aware of the way that
[1:07] Speaker 2: I talk. I might be nervous today. Tomorrow I have
[1:11] Speaker 2: all of my testing again to make sure that the
[1:14] Speaker 2: cancer hasn't come back in any forms. I have my hat, scan,
[1:19] Speaker 2: my m all my stuff tomorrow, and I am a
[1:23] Speaker 2: nervous frickin' rack. I just wanted to say that.
[1:28] Speaker 3: I thought you did this every time you did immune therapy,
[1:30] Speaker 3: but you're not doing that anymore.
[1:31] Speaker 4: No, so how often are you doing this?
[1:33] Speaker 2: So I haven't done this this part and in like
[1:36] Speaker 2: three months?
[1:37] Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah, okay, you're gonna be fine.
[1:40] Speaker 4: You're gonna be fine. And you go in tomorrow fine.
[1:43] Speaker 2: And tomorrow seven am, So tomorrow I would.
[1:48] Speaker 4: Be I would be a mess too.
[1:50] Speaker 2: I think any.
[1:50] Speaker 5: Tomorrow a mess, Teddy. You go and you take the test,
[1:54] Speaker 5: or tomorrow you're going back for your results.
[1:56] Speaker 2: Tomorrow. I go and I take the tests, I get
[1:59] Speaker 2: the results the same day, and then I do my immunotherapy.
[2:02] Speaker 4: Do you have reason to believe that something's wrong.
[2:07] Speaker 2: No, but I've been having a bad headaches again. So
[2:09] Speaker 2: now of course your good headache. Yeah yeah, your mind
[2:13] Speaker 2: goes to that I could be headaches. I mean, it
[2:15] Speaker 2: could just be watching this episode of Real.
[2:20] Speaker 3: Got everybody say a prayer for Teddy tonight, because I
[2:25] Speaker 3: know that cannot be easy.
[2:27] Speaker 2: That definitely, if you hear a nervous energy in my voice,
[2:31] Speaker 2: you're not.
[2:31] Speaker 4: Going to sleep tonight. I'm sure you.
[2:33] Speaker 5: Let's get your mind off it. Let's do what I
[2:35] Speaker 5: wish I could go with you.
[2:37] Speaker 2: And I wish you guys would come with.
[2:39] Speaker 5: Me, Teddy. If I was there, I swear to God
[2:42] Speaker 5: I would be there with you. I promise you I
[2:44] Speaker 5: would cancel filming tomorrow.
[2:46] Speaker 2: I would if you didn't want to do that anyway.
[2:50] Speaker 5: I just tried to get out of give up filming tomorrow,
[2:54] Speaker 5: put the flowout scene that I have to do just
[2:56] Speaker 5: to come with you. I would even sit in the
[2:59] Speaker 5: parking for you, Teddy.
[3:01] Speaker 2: If you're gonna be there, Oh my gosh, I love
[3:04] Speaker 2: you guys. Let's let's talk some ship before we do
[3:20] Speaker 2: with girls.
[3:20] Speaker 3: I think that this ship talking is gonna get your
[3:23] Speaker 3: mind off things, because I know you're probably wrapped up
[3:26] Speaker 3: about this entire episode.
[3:29] Speaker 5: I watched it twice.
[3:31] Speaker 2: I have to watch everything twice now too. Does that
[3:34] Speaker 2: mean we're getting old guys like I have to watch I.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's smart.
[3:38] Speaker 3: I think it's smart because a lot of times these
[3:40] Speaker 3: shows go by so fast and you you don't see
[3:44] Speaker 3: everything the first time, and then you watch it again like.
[3:48] Speaker 6: Okay, okay, now she's she's yeah, Now we're not like
[3:54] Speaker 6: watching and then you're thinking about like then you have
[3:56] Speaker 6: to get up because you can't sit through a whole
[3:58] Speaker 6: forty minutes and then yeah, no, I get yeah.
[4:01] Speaker 2: So it starts out Alicia, Liz and Joe Allen, they're
[4:05] Speaker 2: heading to riches, but like, shit's already hitting the fan
[4:08] Speaker 2: in the car.
[4:09] Speaker 3: Yes, and it wasn't the fan when Liz walked in.
[4:13] Speaker 5: All right, Liz was already knew there was like something
[4:18] Speaker 5: going on behind the scenes of her saying that at
[4:22] Speaker 5: the castle when she said you were never homeless?
[4:24] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay. First of all, let's dissect this a
[4:27] Speaker 3: little bit. By her saying she wasn't homeless is not
[4:31] Speaker 3: that big of a deal. I am sorry, And I
[4:34] Speaker 3: see where Liz is coming from. She means you weren't
[4:36] Speaker 3: sleeping on the street. Did she go to Alicia go
[4:40] Speaker 3: through a hard time as a kid?
[4:41] Speaker 5: Solutely?
[4:42] Speaker 3: Nobody's discrediting that. But I think what Liz was trying
[4:45] Speaker 3: to save her. I thought thinks she was trying to
[4:49] Speaker 3: do her a solid by saying, maybe you shouldn't say
[4:51] Speaker 3: that because the fans are gone off fucking freak out.
[4:53] Speaker 3: When it's like when Bethany said she was homeless, remember
[4:56] Speaker 3: way back.
[4:56] Speaker 5: In the day, the fans I don't remember, ripped her apart.
[5:01] Speaker 2: I think at first it started out with her, you know,
[5:05] Speaker 2: trying to cover, you know, like cover for her friend.
[5:09] Speaker 2: But then I think it turned south. I do. I
[5:11] Speaker 2: think I think she went too far. I think Alicia
[5:15] Speaker 2: tried to drop it, but Les kept going. She just going.
[5:21] Speaker 5: And I don't know if I believe.
[5:23] Speaker 4: I don't care it like that. I don't see it
[5:25] Speaker 4: like that.
[5:26] Speaker 5: I thought it was over at the castle because I
[5:28] Speaker 5: remember Liz saying to me, I said three words, Laura,
[5:33] Speaker 5: and I wish I could take it back. I wish
[5:35] Speaker 5: I could take it back. I apologized immediately. She jumped
[5:40] Speaker 5: on it. She wasn't around when Alicia was little. She
[5:43] Speaker 5: was in California, Okay, So when she said that, it
[5:47] Speaker 5: was a knee jerk reaction to her knowing that Alicia
[5:51] Speaker 5: comes from this big, huge family with none of those
[5:54] Speaker 5: women that sit around Alisha every day would ever let
[5:57] Speaker 5: Alisha on the street till this day. And that's why
[6:00] Speaker 5: Liz said that. Now, now, is it insensitive to say that, Yeah,
[6:05] Speaker 5: but that's how somebody feels. Yeah, but I think again,
[6:08] Speaker 5: knee jerry jerk reaction her knowing Alicia as well as
[6:11] Speaker 5: she does, wouldn't you say it to me? Wouldn't you
[6:13] Speaker 5: say it to like a sister if your sister is
[6:16] Speaker 5: sitting around. We've all been around our sisters. Everybody has
[6:18] Speaker 5: a different opinion of how they grew up, and you go,
[6:21] Speaker 5: stop it. It wasn't that bad or whatever. But you
[6:24] Speaker 5: can't say. But can I give you a hypothetical.
[6:29] Speaker 2: Let's say that Edwin says that I can no longer
[6:31] Speaker 2: live in this house, so me and my kids go
[6:36] Speaker 2: live with Kyle. Mm hmm, what woulould you consider me?
[6:42] Speaker 5: Uh? No, I know I'm not discrediting.
[6:47] Speaker 3: You're not homeless, though it's not when you think homeless
[6:50] Speaker 3: and the homeless problems we have in this world where
[6:53] Speaker 3: people are sleeping on the street. When you say homeless,
[6:56] Speaker 3: maybe that's just the word that she's using homeless.
[7:00] Speaker 5: Listen, if that's what somebody wants to say about themselves,
[7:04] Speaker 5: then so be it. And that's why Liz apologized immediately.
[7:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, Liz apologized immediately. But then even when they are I.
[7:12] Speaker 5: Don't know that that was film though, I don't know that.
[7:15] Speaker 3: I think we saw I think we saw this, saw
[7:17] Speaker 3: a little bit of it. So what I'll tell you
[7:20] Speaker 3: what I see right now. She's in the car, she
[7:23] Speaker 3: knows this is coming up again for the fifteenth fucking time,
[7:26] Speaker 3: and she's anxious. In the car, she's anxious, she's annoyed.
[7:30] Speaker 3: You have Joellen in the back seat, who has said.
[7:34] Speaker 5: She wasn't homeless.
[7:35] Speaker 4: She wasn't homeless, so.
[7:36] Speaker 5: She said it.
[7:37] Speaker 3: But then she's in the back seat going, come on, Liz,
[7:41] Speaker 3: don't do this. Like wait, So Liz is in her
[7:45] Speaker 3: mind going, fuck this bitch. I think her anger was
[7:48] Speaker 3: more towards Joellen than it was against Alicia. Right, So
[7:53] Speaker 3: I think she's like getting pissed off. That's where the
[7:55] Speaker 3: root of it comes from. She's getting pissed off. You
[7:58] Speaker 3: played both sides, Joe Ellen. You're playing both sides in
[8:01] Speaker 3: this situation, and now she knows. I almost feel like
[8:05] Speaker 3: she knows what she's doing to get Liz revved up.
[8:08] Speaker 3: And I'm not making excuses for Liz's behavior because it
[8:11] Speaker 3: wasn't good.
[8:12] Speaker 5: But I think that Joellen did play a part in it.
[8:15] Speaker 2: I think Joellen tried to play both sides the same
[8:17] Speaker 2: way that we watched Kelsey play both sides.
[8:20] Speaker 5: Yeah, in this episode.
[8:21] Speaker 2: In this episode, we saw her play both sides. Everybody's
[8:25] Speaker 2: playing both sides because people see both sides to this.
[8:27] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they just do. The fans are not revved
[8:30] Speaker 2: up at Alicia right now.
[8:33] Speaker 5: They're not. They're revved up at Liz anybody and listen, guys,
[8:40] Speaker 5: is did she do something so egregious after she apologized?
[8:45] Speaker 1: Like?
[8:45] Speaker 5: Why is? Why are the fans so adamant against Liz on?
[8:51] Speaker 5: I understand, but they're like saying because the way she.
[8:54] Speaker 2: Acted, well, I think Joellen was trying to help keep
[8:58] Speaker 2: things from getting out of control, and I think things
[9:01] Speaker 2: were getting out of control.
[9:02] Speaker 3: You think Joe Allen was doing that? Yeah, I have
[9:05] Speaker 3: a different I don't know. I don't know if that's
[9:08] Speaker 3: completely true. I feel like Joe Allen was playing a
[9:10] Speaker 3: good housewife and kind of pushing Liz's buttons following her outside.
[9:16] Speaker 2: Talked about it in the car. I haven't even gotten
[9:19] Speaker 2: into the restaurant yet, but.
[9:20] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, in general, I feel like she was
[9:22] Speaker 3: pushing her button. She could have easily said, do you
[9:24] Speaker 3: know what, Alicia? I agree with Liz. You know you
[9:28] Speaker 3: were homeless, you were out of your house, you lived
[9:33] Speaker 3: with your relatives, all these things, Like it's just that word.
[9:37] Speaker 5: What other word.
[9:37] Speaker 2: Could she have used?
[9:38] Speaker 4: It would have been better.
[9:39] Speaker 2: Do these women seem to always use the correct words no,
[9:44] Speaker 2: but that.
[9:44] Speaker 4: We're fighting over a fucking word homeless.
[9:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you know, rather we say that's.
[9:51] Speaker 5: How Aloraysha wants to say it, though she can say
[9:54] Speaker 5: say it like that.
[9:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, she had her dad kicked her out of their home.
[10:01] Speaker 2: They sold.
[10:01] Speaker 4: He sold the house, is what he did.
[10:03] Speaker 3: So the divorce, Yeah, and then the house was sold.
[10:08] Speaker 3: So I would imagine the mom would have got a
[10:10] Speaker 3: certain amount of money and then they would go and
[10:13] Speaker 3: find another house.
[10:14] Speaker 5: They lived with the grandparents in a nice home.
[10:19] Speaker 3: So I think that's where Liz has this like, don't
[10:22] Speaker 3: say you're homeless when we have people sleeping on the streets.
[10:25] Speaker 2: I think she did it more just because she was
[10:27] Speaker 2: trying to protect her friend. Don't say her homeless. But
[10:29] Speaker 2: I think then she was. After she said it, she
[10:31] Speaker 2: felt bad about it.
[10:34] Speaker 5: So are people upset about lynd sat Liz saying you
[10:36] Speaker 5: were never homeless? Are they upset about now?
[10:39] Speaker 4: They're upset about the way she acts?
[10:40] Speaker 2: The way she acted? Why was she trying to copy
[10:43] Speaker 2: everybody the whole time? It was really when she.
[10:45] Speaker 4: Think, oh no, I'm own to mock people.
[10:49] Speaker 2: It made me so mad, I was like, quit mocking people, right,
[10:54] Speaker 2: so condescending It's I and I love Liz, but she
[10:58] Speaker 2: was condescending this episod.
[11:00] Speaker 4: One hundred percent. She was.
[11:01] Speaker 5: She was on fire.
[11:02] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[11:03] Speaker 5: Does she drink?
[11:04] Speaker 4: Was she drinking?
[11:04] Speaker 5: No? No, Liz doesn't drink. Liz does not do drugs.
[11:09] Speaker 5: Liz was worked up. She knew she was walking into something.
[11:14] Speaker 5: She knew that this was going to be part of
[11:16] Speaker 5: the scene. She was worked up before she got there
[11:19] Speaker 5: because she had felt that she apologized and she didn't
[11:23] Speaker 5: really want to handle bread. She didn't want to be
[11:25] Speaker 5: brought up again.
[11:27] Speaker 2: Alicia had already cried off all her makeup. She didn't
[11:29] Speaker 2: even have a touch of it left.
[11:31] Speaker 5: Yeah. So so now she's of course nervous about Alicia
[11:35] Speaker 5: being upset. She's wondering, what are people going to say
[11:40] Speaker 5: to me? What is this going to look like on camera?
[11:44] Speaker 5: When when you know I didn't mean anything by it,
[11:47] Speaker 5: I apologize for and now she's walking into this and
[11:50] Speaker 5: not everybody was it. Did she you know, get worked up?
[11:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, Liz was worked up and it doesn't always well.
[11:59] Speaker 3: She didn't do herself any favors. So as Rich is
[12:01] Speaker 3: performing Listen, Joellen are at each other's throats.
[12:06] Speaker 2: Even get to the performing when when they're kind of
[12:10] Speaker 2: walking through and they're like Flemmy to the Moon, and
[12:14] Speaker 2: already Ashley is looking there like she's in a full
[12:18] Speaker 2: blown panic state because she can't believe that she's not
[12:21] Speaker 2: crying and other people are crying. She just starts wiping
[12:23] Speaker 2: tears out of me.
[12:25] Speaker 5: You're so used to wiping her tears that she's wiping
[12:27] Speaker 5: her tears. They're not there, but it's like a habit now. Yeah,
[12:30] Speaker 5: it's like like she's watching somebody else crying. She figures
[12:34] Speaker 5: it like she's damn it.
[12:35] Speaker 3: She's like, something's happening here, guys, something's happening. I don't
[12:39] Speaker 3: know as as Rich is performing. Listen, Joellen are at
[12:43] Speaker 3: each other's throats.
[12:44] Speaker 4: There was a hair tug by Liz, and there was
[12:48] Speaker 4: a chair push by Liz, and.
[12:53] Speaker 3: Joellen calls Liz a nasty person, and she just loses
[12:56] Speaker 3: it and just pushes her chair away.
[12:59] Speaker 5: Listen, Why did no one give Liz her space.
[13:04] Speaker 2: Because Lize at some point, Liz should have stopped with
[13:07] Speaker 2: the attitude. I'm sorry, I stopped with the voice and said, hey, guys,
[13:14] Speaker 2: I apologized a bunch of times, I'm really sorry, and
[13:18] Speaker 2: now I'm on the verge.
[13:20] Speaker 5: But I think she's like, I haven't.
[13:22] Speaker 3: She's already said that a hundred times about this situation.
[13:25] Speaker 3: I think at this point she had freaking had it,
[13:27] Speaker 3: she had lost it. She wasn't going to be logical.
[13:31] Speaker 3: She was pissed off beyond control. She should have left.
[13:35] Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been Joe Ellen that left.
[13:39] Speaker 5: She should have Joe Joe.
[13:41] Speaker 3: Allen Powld, I think they. I think that Liz was unhinged.
[13:45] Speaker 3: I think that this was probably her first, her worst episode.
[13:49] Speaker 3: I don't know how the rest of the season, because
[13:51] Speaker 3: only what two more episodes to go?
[13:53] Speaker 5: Two more episodes? I have to Liz is one of
[13:57] Speaker 5: my best friends, and I'm going to tell you right now,
[13:59] Speaker 5: she was already worked up walking into that and felt
[14:04] Speaker 5: like she was walking into a trap, and a trap, that's.
[14:07] Speaker 2: What it felt like. She felt like she thought she
[14:09] Speaker 2: was gonna get trapped, and then you're a trap. You're
[14:11] Speaker 2: just like like.
[14:14] Speaker 5: And that's the true. I mean, listen, not everybody knows
[14:16] Speaker 5: how to handle this. It's a first time housewife. Also,
[14:20] Speaker 5: it's a great show. We're all having a great time
[14:23] Speaker 5: watching this and now you know she's dealing with the
[14:26] Speaker 5: repercussions of every little thing right now on Instagram.
[14:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, can we talk about who. I loved this episode
[14:34] Speaker 2: because she didn't pull any kind of ship like we
[14:37] Speaker 2: normally would pull, like I can't believe you'd do this
[14:39] Speaker 2: at my event and blah blah blah. Rosie. Rosie was
[14:42] Speaker 2: sitting there. She didn't care who, she knows how it
[14:45] Speaker 2: was and this what sat there and was like a
[14:48] Speaker 2: pig and shit.
[14:49] Speaker 5: She was like, this is amazing, she said, I'm so
[14:53] Speaker 5: glad it's not me, right it was.
[14:55] Speaker 4: So I want to know how they got the Elvis
[14:59] Speaker 4: song cleared. That's crazy. First they're like, oh, when.
[15:04] Speaker 2: The Saints, Oh, when the Saints.
[15:05] Speaker 4: I used play that on the piano deep deep deep.
[15:08] Speaker 5: So I'm like, what is.
[15:09] Speaker 3: Going on here? Like, now you've got an Elvis song clear?
[15:12] Speaker 5: That's crazy.
[15:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean he's great. It made me love them.
[15:17] Speaker 3: I thought it was amazing. I thought he was like
[15:20] Speaker 3: very charging you rich.
[15:21] Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone likes him. No one has a bad word
[15:24] Speaker 5: to say about him, even you know what I like
[15:26] Speaker 5: about They go after of course Brian on this show
[15:30] Speaker 5: like crazy, but even like even if Kelsey's fighting with
[15:34] Speaker 5: rich or somebody's fighting with Kelsey, they don't go after
[15:37] Speaker 5: each other's Matt like on my show. Yeah, but let's
[15:42] Speaker 5: get back to this why and find people are mad
[15:46] Speaker 5: at Liz. They don't like the way she acted. But
[15:49] Speaker 5: the vitriol on social media is crazy. Right now you
[15:54] Speaker 5: would think, what the hell she did?
[15:57] Speaker 2: Well, it's because Dolores, you know, with all do as
[16:01] Speaker 2: Andy would say, you never act that way, so you
[16:04] Speaker 2: never get that that vitriol. I know, Tamra has I
[16:09] Speaker 2: know I have.
[16:11] Speaker 5: Yeah, but listen, well from people that have been in
[16:17] Speaker 5: this position, speak for Liz. What was she feeling? What
[16:21] Speaker 5: was she feeling like in that moment?
[16:24] Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you what not to do is
[16:26] Speaker 2: you don't in the middle of a performance kick somebody's
[16:29] Speaker 2: chair out from under them.
[16:31] Speaker 5: She pushed it.
[16:31] Speaker 4: She didn't see That's why people are getting like over
[16:33] Speaker 4: the top.
[16:34] Speaker 5: She pushed her. She kicked her. I saw her. She
[16:38] Speaker 5: didn't pull it.
[16:38] Speaker 2: I would say, she didn't pull her hair. She didn't.
[16:41] Speaker 4: She did not kick her chair. She she just pushed
[16:43] Speaker 4: it with her hand.
[16:44] Speaker 5: So now she didn't kick her chair and she didn't
[16:46] Speaker 5: pull her hair.
[16:46] Speaker 3: So what's yeah, but then it gets all twisted like, oh,
[16:51] Speaker 3: she kicked her chair, she pushed her upper chair, she
[16:54] Speaker 3: yanked her hair, she went like this.
[16:57] Speaker 2: But all of that is really passive, aggressive ways to
[17:02] Speaker 2: make somebody feel bad. And I don't think in this moment,
[17:06] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't think Joe Allen deserved it. I
[17:08] Speaker 2: think Joe Allen at was like, listen, I'm gonna try
[17:11] Speaker 2: to have both sides. She tried to clearly really believe that.
[17:15] Speaker 5: You believe that.
[17:16] Speaker 3: You don't think she You don't think she tried to
[17:19] Speaker 3: agger on just a little bit, or not give her
[17:21] Speaker 3: any space or get in her face or follow her.
[17:24] Speaker 2: I think she was in a panicked state. I think
[17:26] Speaker 2: she loves Liz. I think Liz is her favorite person.
[17:30] Speaker 2: I think she wants Liz to be her best friend,
[17:32] Speaker 2: and the feeling that she felt of Liz pulling away
[17:35] Speaker 2: from her and.
[17:37] Speaker 5: Not doesn't feel that way though, because Liz felt in
[17:40] Speaker 5: that moment she could have stood up for her and
[17:44] Speaker 5: said she didn't mean it. I we've all said it, Alisha,
[17:50] Speaker 5: and that's not what happened.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think it was the time or
[17:55] Speaker 2: the place to say that to Alicia. I think Aliciha
[17:58] Speaker 2: was inconsolable at this point. She has not stopped crying.
[18:01] Speaker 5: By the way, I like Alicia and so does Liz.
[18:05] Speaker 2: And Alicia played this just right because once I get
[18:07] Speaker 2: to dinner with her family, she didn't say one negative
[18:13] Speaker 2: thing about Liz.
[18:14] Speaker 3: She did, but but at that dinner they weren't saying
[18:17] Speaker 3: negative things about each other.
[18:19] Speaker 4: It was between the other two.
[18:21] Speaker 3: So it was a fight about how Joellen didn't have
[18:24] Speaker 3: her back.
[18:25] Speaker 5: That's that's what the fight was. That's what I feel
[18:27] Speaker 5: like I come from. And that's why when Joellen's talking
[18:30] Speaker 5: to her in her in her face, she's like, wait
[18:32] Speaker 5: a second, you're not yes, is it the time to
[18:36] Speaker 5: say to Alisha, that's what I say to no, But
[18:41] Speaker 5: it's also the time to say, but you have really
[18:45] Speaker 5: high or down.
[18:48] Speaker 3: I also think of it like this Teddy, like if
[18:50] Speaker 3: you have a friend on the show, that's always the instigator,
[18:53] Speaker 3: always stirring the ship, always.
[18:55] Speaker 4: Doing all the things.
[18:56] Speaker 3: And then when it comes and had said that, oh yeah,
[18:59] Speaker 3: she was ever unless like that's bullshit.
[19:02] Speaker 4: And then when it comes up she doesn't have.
[19:04] Speaker 3: Your back, You're like, you're the biggest fucking insugator here,
[19:07] Speaker 3: and now this is coming up and you can't even
[19:09] Speaker 3: have my back on this. That's where I think that
[19:12] Speaker 3: fight originated, and she was not going to let it go.
[19:15] Speaker 3: I don't think her problem is Liz's problems with Alisha
[19:18] Speaker 3: at all. I think she was kind of said that
[19:20] Speaker 3: protect her.
[19:21] Speaker 5: She has said that she is, and I don't think.
[19:23] Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I just think we saw
[19:25] Speaker 2: a lot of things from Liz that was out of
[19:27] Speaker 2: character for what I've seen from her before. Like I've
[19:30] Speaker 2: always kind of looked at her, you know, except when
[19:32] Speaker 2: I looked back to that fight she had with Kelsey.
[19:35] Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of when people are good
[19:38] Speaker 2: friends with each other and then whenever they're mad, they're saying,
[19:40] Speaker 2: you're never my friend, I don't like you, I've never
[19:43] Speaker 2: liked you. So so far, she's done this to Kelsey
[19:46] Speaker 2: and Joe Ellen the second they disagree with her.
[19:50] Speaker 5: Well, she was closer with Kelsey she did before. No,
[19:54] Speaker 5: she didn't say I never liked you at she said it.
[19:58] Speaker 5: She said, now I know.
[20:00] Speaker 2: I'll never trust you. You're snake. I don't like you.
[20:03] Speaker 5: She said that, but she didn't say that they were
[20:06] Speaker 5: never friends.
[20:10] Speaker 2: Let's quit split splitting hairs, Dolores, she.
[20:13] Speaker 3: Has done, but saying you're not my friend, and she
[20:19] Speaker 3: didn't say it like she'd say.
[20:20] Speaker 5: They did not say you're that you were never my friend.
[20:23] Speaker 5: Maybe I don't remember, but she was.
[20:26] Speaker 2: I think she said pretty much exactly what she said
[20:30] Speaker 2: to Joan Well.
[20:32] Speaker 5: Her and kel Well, maybe she wasn't friends with Kelsey
[20:35] Speaker 5: because I don't see Kelsey having her back on this one.
[20:38] Speaker 2: I know, but they for sure had multiple times to
[20:41] Speaker 2: have conversations about it. But either way, before I'm not
[20:44] Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not dogging out Liz here. I would
[20:47] Speaker 2: be upset too, because I don't think I think Liz
[20:50] Speaker 2: was trying to have Alicia's back. I think Alicia, as
[20:53] Speaker 2: I think you put it to Lores, I think that
[20:56] Speaker 2: sometimes she could use a stronger backbone when it comes
[21:00] Speaker 2: to some of the things in her life, like even
[21:03] Speaker 2: when she's sitting with her family and her family's kind
[21:05] Speaker 2: of all trashing Liz a little bit, like well maybe
[21:09] Speaker 2: she was on drugs, maybe she was on this, maybe
[21:11] Speaker 2: she was on that. Alicia's sitting there and she's like, guys,
[21:15] Speaker 2: I'm not talking about this. She's none of those things.
[21:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, No, she was sure that was fair and that
[21:20] Speaker 5: was the right thing to do.
[21:21] Speaker 3: No, I thought that Alisha was like a good friend
[21:23] Speaker 3: at that point when she's like, no, I don't think
[21:26] Speaker 3: she's jealous.
[21:27] Speaker 5: No, I don't think Alicia knows that. When Liz said
[21:30] Speaker 5: that to her, she apologized immediately and said, listen, I
[21:34] Speaker 5: wasn't around. I wasn't around, I was I was in California.
[21:40] Speaker 5: I just said it because your family wouldn't really let
[21:45] Speaker 5: you be homeless, and you aren't, and there are people
[21:47] Speaker 5: that homeless and you're gonna look bad. So I think
[21:51] Speaker 5: in her heart.
[21:51] Speaker 3: Of heart to Liz, though Liz, Liz got worked out,
[21:55] Speaker 3: she didn't help herself. But Alicia and her heart of
[21:57] Speaker 3: hearts knows that Liz is her friend and she was
[21:59] Speaker 3: looking out for her. But did it hurt Alicia, Yeah,
[22:02] Speaker 3: it hurt her because in her mind, you know, she
[22:04] Speaker 3: was young, she felt homeless, and you.
[22:08] Speaker 5: Know, Alicia said she felt embarrassed. She felt embarrassed to
[22:12] Speaker 5: be corrected.
[22:12] Speaker 2: And then but I think you see Alicia's heart in
[22:16] Speaker 2: this episode when they're when one of her aunts or
[22:19] Speaker 2: sisters or whomever it is says to her, I mean,
[22:23] Speaker 2: you have the perfect life. She's jealous and she's like,
[22:25] Speaker 2: you know what, she's not jealoused and I don't have
[22:27] Speaker 2: a perfect life, and she names off the reason.
[22:30] Speaker 5: It just no matter what.
[22:33] Speaker 2: Liz did. At this point, Alicia's coming off so well
[22:38] Speaker 2: that you forget what Liz has even said or done,
[22:41] Speaker 2: because you're just like, oh my god, my heart strings
[22:43] Speaker 2: are so much with Alicia.
[22:44] Speaker 5: Yeah, right, But people aren't mad about what she said
[22:48] Speaker 5: to Alicia about what happened with Joe Ellen.
[22:52] Speaker 2: Because everybody loves that Joe ellensters the pop but not now, No,
[22:57] Speaker 2: they don't.
[22:58] Speaker 3: And that's why I brought that up, Teddy, because I
[23:00] Speaker 3: do feel like, you know Joellen, I mean, you can
[23:03] Speaker 3: call it a good housewife, but she wasn't gonna let
[23:05] Speaker 3: it go when they were watching the show. She kept
[23:08] Speaker 3: also getting in her face, following her outside, and I
[23:11] Speaker 3: see now, I see Liz as somebody like when they're pissed.
[23:17] Speaker 4: Leave them aloneone leave them alone because.
[23:19] Speaker 5: They will fucking blow.
[23:20] Speaker 3: And I think Joellen knows her well enough that she
[23:23] Speaker 3: will do that well.
[23:25] Speaker 5: I think or One knows how to push a button.
[23:27] Speaker 2: I think Joelan knows how to push a button. I
[23:29] Speaker 2: think Joellen knows how to put on the I'm here
[23:34] Speaker 2: for you, and then also put on the like Joellen
[23:37] Speaker 2: plays both sides better than anybody on the show.
[23:40] Speaker 4: But she's good, good, she's great.
[23:42] Speaker 5: She's good, and so I think Liz felt gaslighted. But
[23:46] Speaker 5: Liz is right now looking at it like, hmm, you're
[23:53] Speaker 5: jumping on me. You're trying to Liz was not taking
[23:57] Speaker 5: Joe Allen's whatever it was she was doing like it
[24:03] Speaker 5: was sincere let me ask you a question to lie
[24:05] Speaker 5: Joel and running outside sane, I'm here for you, and
[24:10] Speaker 5: she Liz looks at Joel and like you wouldn't be
[24:13] Speaker 5: there for anybody, So why are you in my face
[24:15] Speaker 5: right now?
[24:17] Speaker 2: She just wanted a second to go smoke or sig,
[24:19] Speaker 2: which I wish you would have just said, like I
[24:21] Speaker 2: just want to be alone right now, But instead she
[24:24] Speaker 2: started mocking her and doing all these things and then,
[24:27] Speaker 2: which only provoke one person that's about to lose their
[24:31] Speaker 2: mind to another person that's losing their mind to get worse.
[24:34] Speaker 2: Nobody is going to diffuse a situation by acting the
[24:37] Speaker 2: way that both of them were acting.
[24:39] Speaker 5: No, and we don't want that, We want them to housewife. Now.
[24:42] Speaker 5: People that can't swim should not jump in the.
[24:45] Speaker 4: Water, Dolores. I want to get your opinion on this.
[25:02] Speaker 3: So when they come to your house, which is great,
[25:04] Speaker 3: we finally get to see your rental.
[25:05] Speaker 5: They my boomo and how fucking bad I looked.
[25:08] Speaker 3: I looked like, why are you wearing these uh momos
[25:16] Speaker 3: so all summer long? I was my question, but since
[25:20] Speaker 3: you mentioned it, I was I wasn't going to go there.
[25:23] Speaker 5: No, while you should real French should say dolor so
[25:25] Speaker 5: fucking dress like that on camera? I was well, Liz
[25:28] Speaker 5: looked great in her move when at least it was
[25:30] Speaker 5: cinched at the waist. I looked like my mom. But
[25:35] Speaker 5: I had a huge inflammation flare up during the summer,
[25:43] Speaker 5: so sick, and I was up like fifteen pounds for
[25:47] Speaker 5: no reason, not because I was eating. I didn't feel
[25:50] Speaker 5: good and nothing.
[25:52] Speaker 4: I just wanted to cover it up.
[25:54] Speaker 5: Nothing fit me. My arms were swollen, my body was
[25:57] Speaker 5: swolln I don't look like that normally, which I just
[26:01] Speaker 5: didn't feel good, and that's the only thing I could put.
[26:03] Speaker 5: My skin hurt, so I had put on this thing
[26:06] Speaker 5: and I looked like a fucking jerk off, and he did.
[26:10] Speaker 4: Don't look like a jerk off. It just didn't look
[26:12] Speaker 4: like you normally.
[26:13] Speaker 3: I just Liz walk in with another one of these
[26:16] Speaker 3: long dresses, and I'm like, is that fad momo?
[26:23] Speaker 2: If we wore those moomoos, we would look for like
[26:25] Speaker 2: we looked like two thumbs. I know.
[26:28] Speaker 5: Oh my god.
[26:29] Speaker 3: Okay, So Liz is telling you, Dolores and Kelsey that
[26:33] Speaker 3: she doesn't think Joellen is a nice person and she shouldn't.
[26:37] Speaker 4: Pretend to be. And you had you weren't there, so
[26:40] Speaker 4: you don't witness it.
[26:41] Speaker 3: So now that you have seen it transpire on National TV,
[26:45] Speaker 3: would your advice to her be differently?
[26:47] Speaker 5: No, Well, now that I watched it. Yeah, now that
[26:50] Speaker 5: I watched it, do you think Dwellen knew she was
[26:53] Speaker 5: getting Liz to have a reaction, and she kept doing it,
[26:57] Speaker 5: and I.
[26:58] Speaker 2: Think they kept looking at each other and they're like,
[27:00] Speaker 2: don't do this. Like I feel like they were both
[27:02] Speaker 2: almost threatening each other, like if we go here, we're
[27:05] Speaker 2: about to go.
[27:06] Speaker 5: No coming back. And even Alicia was like Joellen Joe Allen.
[27:11] Speaker 4: Like did you guys notice Joe Ellen?
[27:13] Speaker 3: And cracked me after I watched like three times when
[27:15] Speaker 3: Liz went back inside Joellen's like that happened twice and
[27:21] Speaker 3: I'm like trying to get you doing She was like,
[27:24] Speaker 3: and I'm like that made me feel like, Okay, she's
[27:27] Speaker 3: acting a little bit.
[27:29] Speaker 5: Jo Allen knows how to tricker someone. She knows how
[27:32] Speaker 5: to get somebody to the point. It's I know people
[27:36] Speaker 5: that really are good at that.
[27:37] Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think that in this scene, you know,
[27:40] Speaker 2: we see clearly you haven't seen any You weren't there,
[27:43] Speaker 2: so you don't know exactly how idea what happened.
[27:46] Speaker 4: You know, you're kind of neutral, You're neutral.
[27:50] Speaker 2: I feel like Kelsey's also being pretty neutral.
[27:54] Speaker 5: She want to stay out of it.
[27:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, Kesey, she wasn't even there, wasn't there. She was like,
[27:59] Speaker 2: I'm glad I wasn't there.
[28:00] Speaker 5: But she also made it because her and Rosie hate
[28:03] Speaker 5: each other at this time. Yeah.
[28:04] Speaker 3: But she also said she feels like Liz does not
[28:06] Speaker 3: trust Joellen, and she's like, I'm staying out of this.
[28:10] Speaker 3: I've already had my issues. I don't need any more issues.
[28:13] Speaker 2: But this is my question. Are Joellen and Liz actually friends?
[28:17] Speaker 2: Because Joellen says to us in this episode, Liz is
[28:21] Speaker 2: the first person I called when my father died.
[28:24] Speaker 5: They I don't know how much they knew each other
[28:28] Speaker 5: before this, but Rhode Island is where they friends. No,
[28:32] Speaker 5: but Rhode Island's a very small town. They all knew
[28:36] Speaker 5: about each other very much, detailed parts of their life.
[28:41] Speaker 4: Right.
[28:41] Speaker 2: But just because you know about each other doesn't mean
[28:43] Speaker 2: that I would call some random person that I've met
[28:47] Speaker 2: before in Beverly Hills and told them that one of
[28:49] Speaker 2: my family members died. I would call my best friend.
[28:53] Speaker 5: I think that they were starting to talk on the show,
[28:55] Speaker 5: but Liz made it very clear to Joellen last episode. Joellen,
[29:01] Speaker 5: you're going after low hanging fruit. Joellen, don't make believe
[29:04] Speaker 5: that you care about Rula and that you're trying to
[29:06] Speaker 5: help her marriage. Liz made that very clear to her. Liz,
[29:10] Speaker 5: I totally.
[29:11] Speaker 2: Think it's a different discussion than It's.
[29:14] Speaker 5: An absolutely different discussion. But but Liz, that's how Liz.
[29:20] Speaker 5: Liz told Joellen how she felt about her. She said, Joellen,
[29:25] Speaker 5: don't sit here and stay in front of me that
[29:28] Speaker 5: you're looking out for that girl, because that's not what
[29:30] Speaker 5: you're doing right now.
[29:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:33] Speaker 3: Well, then we get onto like a normal scene, just
[29:35] Speaker 3: a nice little family beach get together with Rich's family
[29:39] Speaker 3: and Rosie. They start talking about having children, and Rosie's like,
[29:43] Speaker 3: I've never said I wanted to have children.
[29:47] Speaker 4: Her voice cracks me up, and she's like if if.
[29:51] Speaker 3: Rich wants one in like, I don't know's.
[29:54] Speaker 2: I think it was refreshing in a way, like wait, women,
[29:58] Speaker 2: why don't you want kids? Like? I think it was
[30:00] Speaker 2: a refreshing conversation to have. And I think it also
[30:04] Speaker 2: showed how much Rich and his family and Rosie all
[30:11] Speaker 2: like each other.
[30:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a nice scene.
[30:14] Speaker 5: I liked it.
[30:14] Speaker 3: I think they were good TV. I thought they were entertaining.
[30:18] Speaker 3: I like the dad, Rosie, his dad, very good relationship.
[30:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it. And I love his dad.
[30:25] Speaker 5: I loved his dad And was that his sisters sitting there.
[30:29] Speaker 3: What I think sister in law was one brothers and
[30:33] Speaker 3: very nice, normal family, normal it was.
[30:38] Speaker 5: It was nice to see this after the last scene
[30:41] Speaker 5: that we had to get through. But I liked that
[30:46] Speaker 5: they're not against Rosie for not wanting They want grandchildren,
[30:51] Speaker 5: but they're not saying to Rosie you need to do this.
[30:54] Speaker 5: They're like kind of kidding about it, showing how much
[30:57] Speaker 5: they wanted, but not making her feel bad about it.
[30:59] Speaker 3: Do you know well enough to say like, yeah, she'll
[31:02] Speaker 3: probably give in and have kids.
[31:04] Speaker 5: I don't know Rosie that well. I think she would
[31:08] Speaker 5: be great with a kid. I think she's a kid herself.
[31:11] Speaker 5: That usually I think it's good.
[31:13] Speaker 3: There's always the people that go, no, I don't want
[31:15] Speaker 3: to kids, I don't wanting kids, and they have when they're.
[31:17] Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, this is the best thing in
[31:19] Speaker 4: the whole world.
[31:20] Speaker 5: I think that Rosie has talked about her childhood and
[31:23] Speaker 5: her relationship with her mother. That's maybe her trepidation of
[31:26] Speaker 5: becoming a mom.
[31:27] Speaker 4: That usually the reason why.
[31:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that I don't think she would
[31:33] Speaker 5: be a bad mother, Rosie. But I also think I've
[31:35] Speaker 5: seen her with kids. She's very good with kids.
[31:37] Speaker 2: And even the dad said, I think you'd be an
[31:39] Speaker 2: amazing mother.
[31:40] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[31:41] Speaker 3: And then I think the more she hangs out with
[31:43] Speaker 3: her husband's family, the more she's going to see like,
[31:45] Speaker 3: this is a normal family dynamic and yeah, yeah, I
[31:48] Speaker 3: want to bring kids into it.
[31:50] Speaker 5: I don't think that her and her husband have been
[31:53] Speaker 5: together a really long time. Her and rich I don't
[31:55] Speaker 5: think they've been married a long time.
[31:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, take your time.
[31:58] Speaker 5: So she's hold thirty six, she has time.
[32:02] Speaker 2: She's thirty six, he's forty two. They have a good
[32:05] Speaker 2: banter about it. They're not at each other's throats about
[32:09] Speaker 2: it yet, which I think is a good sign. Like
[32:11] Speaker 2: they've got plenty of time to work through this because
[32:14] Speaker 2: built in their house, they've got a lot going on.
[32:19] Speaker 2: I did appreciate the relationship when she's like, well, I
[32:22] Speaker 2: mean you're aging and he's like, well so are you,
[32:25] Speaker 2: and she's like, are you kidding? Those has never looked better?
[32:29] Speaker 5: But like I thought it was.
[32:31] Speaker 4: I think he I know, he's cute, he is, He is.
[32:35] Speaker 5: Good with her. They're really they're obsessed with each other,
[32:40] Speaker 5: and they're a really nice couple and love.
[32:42] Speaker 2: I still love that she didn't get mad that they
[32:45] Speaker 2: were causing a scene in the middle of her husband's performance,
[32:48] Speaker 2: because she knew that's exactly why they were there.
[32:50] Speaker 5: She's like, yes, it's gonna air, it's gonna air. She
[32:53] Speaker 5: was unhinged last week, Rosie. Yeah, she was, absolutely, but
[32:58] Speaker 5: she didn't get hammered.
[33:00] Speaker 2: No, mm hmm. But then Joellen and Kelsey decided to
[33:07] Speaker 2: go painting together. I hate these kind of scenes.
[33:10] Speaker 5: But who knew?
[33:11] Speaker 4: Who knew that Kelsey was so good?
[33:14] Speaker 2: It's so just so you know, you're taught those types
[33:18] Speaker 2: of paintings, like there's a certain way to do that type.
[33:22] Speaker 2: I've been taught exactly that same way, and I think
[33:25] Speaker 2: I have three of them from being in therapy where
[33:28] Speaker 2: they're like, let's paint like paint therapy, and then they
[33:32] Speaker 2: there's a coach and it teaches you how to do
[33:34] Speaker 2: it that way.
[33:35] Speaker 5: A coach can teach me all they want to. I
[33:38] Speaker 5: never slam pig painting. My painting wouldn't even be as
[33:43] Speaker 5: nice as Joellen's painting.
[33:44] Speaker 4: I don't think I could even do the slam pig.
[33:46] Speaker 5: I'm just not like that.
[33:47] Speaker 2: And did she have pearls on the slam pig?
[33:51] Speaker 5: I think so?
[33:53] Speaker 2: Okay, I was wasn't here last week for what a
[33:56] Speaker 2: slam pig actually is.
[33:58] Speaker 3: It's a hoe Basically, somebody gets slammed all the time
[34:01] Speaker 3: with different people.
[34:02] Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me?
[34:05] Speaker 5: Self explanatory slam pig.
[34:09] Speaker 3: Now to me, it's actually like, isn't it like an
[34:12] Speaker 3: unattractive person?
[34:14] Speaker 5: Is that what? It's more like?
[34:15] Speaker 4: There's more to it, but it's not very nice.
[34:17] Speaker 5: Yeah no, she said, it's like an unattractive person that
[34:21] Speaker 5: slams everyone.
[34:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say Kelsey isn't really that she's.
[34:28] Speaker 3: Wel Kelsey, who wasn't there, doesn't think that Joelle did anything.
[34:31] Speaker 5: Kelsey's doing week right now.
[34:34] Speaker 2: So did she go and do that?
[34:35] Speaker 5: Do you see her? Oh?
[34:38] Speaker 4: My god?
[34:39] Speaker 5: Was there? Bethany Frankel, Yes, yes.
[34:43] Speaker 3: So I'm actually very sick of seeing these videos. It
[34:46] Speaker 3: makes me feel so bad about myself.
[34:48] Speaker 5: Oh you could get right up there. Stop.
[34:52] Speaker 3: So all these ravo people are doing the runway Mormon wives,
[34:56] Speaker 3: all these hot bodies. Bethany Frankel, was that there, Kelsey?
[35:01] Speaker 3: She looked Assy's out there, dossy.
[35:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[35:05] Speaker 3: I mean another thing, we were not invited to first
[35:08] Speaker 3: the awards, now.
[35:09] Speaker 2: This, I was invited to the awards, guys, and I did. Yes,
[35:14] Speaker 2: I was invited to the Why.
[35:16] Speaker 4: Were you invited? And I wasn't.
[35:19] Speaker 2: I don't know, but I was so sick I couldn't
[35:21] Speaker 2: go the ones that were the Saturday I could have.
[35:24] Speaker 2: And then the rage I felt when I saw Sierra
[35:27] Speaker 2: and I saw Paige. I was like, Teddy, why didn't
[35:32] Speaker 2: you do the research on who was going to be there,
[35:34] Speaker 2: you dumb idiot and put on your big girl panties
[35:38] Speaker 2: and showed up.
[35:39] Speaker 4: Well, I didn't feel good.
[35:40] Speaker 5: Didn't feel good.
[35:42] Speaker 4: It's like the last thing you want to do is.
[35:43] Speaker 2: Get And then after I saw how good everybody looked,
[35:46] Speaker 2: I have to be honest guys, like I'm kind of
[35:49] Speaker 2: feeling insecure about my looks these days, like you should not. Well,
[35:53] Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I seriously, if one more person
[35:57] Speaker 2: tells me I look like Kate plus eight, I am
[36:00] Speaker 2: going to who the hell said that? It's like I'm
[36:05] Speaker 2: gonna be sick. It's gonna be worse than Liz when
[36:08] Speaker 2: Liz kicked just pushed the chair.
[36:11] Speaker 5: Okay, can I ask you?
[36:12] Speaker 2: Can?
[36:12] Speaker 5: I'll let you borrow my lipstick mumo if you want.
[36:16] Speaker 3: Oh my god, you feel really good about yourself. Your
[36:19] Speaker 3: hair is getting wrong, your hair is getting long. What
[36:22] Speaker 3: if you just put some individuals in there and that
[36:25] Speaker 3: might make you feel a little bit better because I
[36:26] Speaker 3: get what you're saying, like you're probably so sick of
[36:28] Speaker 3: everything going, oh my god, your hair looks so cute short.
[36:31] Speaker 4: Well, here's here's a new splash. I would never wear
[36:33] Speaker 4: my hair short.
[36:34] Speaker 2: I have to wear my hairlet in a mushroom cut.
[36:38] Speaker 2: Maybe you su the other day when we did the
[36:40] Speaker 2: pod together and I saw the back of my head.
[36:42] Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, one, whit did I
[36:45] Speaker 2: said that? But anyway, this isn't about me. But that's
[36:48] Speaker 2: part of the reason I was feeling insecure about I know,
[36:50] Speaker 2: it's all dulled up and trying, and.
[36:53] Speaker 5: You're so beautiful, like you're gorgeous. I don't know, ye like.
[36:59] Speaker 4: I'm gonna get what you're saying.
[37:00] Speaker 5: I get what you're saying. You know, we all to
[37:04] Speaker 5: feel the way we want.
[37:05] Speaker 4: I guess I get what you're saying. Like you're entitled
[37:07] Speaker 4: to feel the way you feel.
[37:09] Speaker 3: You don't feel good half the time, you're not able
[37:13] Speaker 3: to work out right now and all that stuff.
[37:15] Speaker 5: But it's all temporary.
[37:16] Speaker 3: It's all temporary, sweeten, and it's all just to get
[37:19] Speaker 3: you back to where you but long, yeah, and you
[37:22] Speaker 3: have the rest of your life to have long hair
[37:24] Speaker 3: and do all the things.
[37:25] Speaker 2: I know, do all the things, and.
[37:28] Speaker 5: Well, you'll get there.
[37:29] Speaker 4: You're going to get there, I promise I.
[37:34] Speaker 2: Kelsey chimes in, even though she wasn't there, and she
[37:37] Speaker 2: says she doesn't think Joel and did anything crazy. I'm like,
[37:39] Speaker 2: you weren't there, you didn't see it. You didn't see
[37:42] Speaker 2: her think that she was going to share a sig
[37:44] Speaker 2: with somebody who hated her at the moment.
[37:47] Speaker 5: That cigarette and that space Liz absolutely fucking needed, and
[37:52] Speaker 5: she didn't get it.
[37:54] Speaker 2: She just wanted to smoke a sig by herself.
[37:56] Speaker 3: Do you think if Joellen did not go out there
[37:59] Speaker 3: and she had time to just calm down and talk
[38:01] Speaker 3: to talk to me, do you think they they would
[38:04] Speaker 3: have been a different outcome.
[38:06] Speaker 2: Yes, I think they told. I think either Joellen was like,
[38:09] Speaker 2: I need to follow her or somebody was like, go
[38:15] Speaker 2: out there.
[38:16] Speaker 5: Well you don't know, like you wouldn't know.
[38:19] Speaker 2: But then we have lunch and Liz tells Rula that
[38:25] Speaker 2: she's been suspicious of Joellen's sincerity since the beginning. Rula
[38:30] Speaker 2: says Joellen needs to focus on her own relationship because
[38:33] Speaker 2: allegedly she isn't the most her husband.
[38:38] Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you a question.
[38:39] Speaker 3: If never heard that, like like, why didn't she say
[38:43] Speaker 3: it way back when when when Joellen was started.
[38:48] Speaker 5: Yeah, well, maybe she's just finding out.
[38:51] Speaker 2: Maybe if she bothered to show up to film when
[38:53] Speaker 2: it was the full cast and not just one person,
[38:55] Speaker 2: that she could navigate you know what, all those things.
[38:58] Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the aha moment is she could like
[39:00] Speaker 5: I haven't.
[39:01] Speaker 3: I haven't even seen so, and so since the Polo
[39:04] Speaker 3: Polo Mat, I'm like, oh my god, that was like.
[39:06] Speaker 4: Seven episodes ago.
[39:07] Speaker 5: Like that. That's not good.
[39:08] Speaker 4: That she doesn't film makes it very, very very hard
[39:12] Speaker 4: to edit somebody out when they don't know.
[39:14] Speaker 5: It's stupid if they wouldn't find it the last minute. Okay,
[39:17] Speaker 5: but I don't know.
[39:18] Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit weird, like if
[39:21] Speaker 2: if if my point was going to be, which Rula
[39:24] Speaker 2: was making, which this person needs to stay out of
[39:27] Speaker 2: my husband and my affairs, my our lives. I don't
[39:30] Speaker 2: want her to comment on it and then to comment
[39:33] Speaker 2: on hers. That is just so hypocritical.
[39:37] Speaker 5: Yeah, but sometimes we got to do something. Yeah it's
[39:42] Speaker 5: so smart.
[39:43] Speaker 3: It's not the smart way to go, but sometimes you
[39:45] Speaker 3: get so freaking you.
[39:46] Speaker 2: Could have played it so many different ways and so
[39:49] Speaker 2: many better ways.
[39:49] Speaker 3: Well, you got to think about Rula's headspace. She hasn't
[39:52] Speaker 3: really been filming that much. And now she's got Liz
[39:55] Speaker 3: on her side, who's a powerhouse on the show, and
[39:57] Speaker 3: now she's like, yeah, well.
[39:59] Speaker 2: You know, well now we get I know I do too.
[40:04] Speaker 2: So we get Bill and Kelsey at the gym, which
[40:08] Speaker 2: you know what, you should worry less about your momou
[40:11] Speaker 2: because you know who had crack sweat?
[40:13] Speaker 5: Was that cracks? I take the crack sweat over the momo.
[40:22] Speaker 3: But it wasn't even a crack. It was under butt sweat.
[40:25] Speaker 3: And then I thought, you know, you know sometimes they.
[40:27] Speaker 5: Make she doesn't have a big ass. I understand.
[40:31] Speaker 2: She was wearing light blue.
[40:32] Speaker 3: You can't wear light I don't wear light colors, but
[40:35] Speaker 3: you know how to wear like you're seeing these new
[40:37] Speaker 3: workout pants where they put like these this bind.
[40:41] Speaker 4: To lick your lift your butt.
[40:42] Speaker 3: I thought at first that's what it was, but I'm like,
[40:44] Speaker 3: why would they want a different color?
[40:45] Speaker 5: It was why would they make it look?
[40:47] Speaker 3: Hey, I'm all for a girl that's sweating while she's
[40:49] Speaker 3: working out. And we know after seeing her walk the.
[40:51] Speaker 2: Runway, yeah, she looked, But this is I didn't realize.
[40:57] Speaker 2: This is the first time that they've actually said that
[41:00] Speaker 2: they were official.
[41:02] Speaker 4: Well, according to the streets, they've been together for two years.
[41:06] Speaker 4: I love when we say the word on the street.
[41:09] Speaker 5: Remember when Margaret said word on the street, word on
[41:12] Speaker 5: the street. Nerve miss Old New Jersey, New Jersey.
[41:18] Speaker 3: And Kelsey's like, Bill, are we official? And Bill's like,
[41:22] Speaker 3: still working out. He's like, fuck, how do I answer this?
[41:25] Speaker 3: He's like yeah, yeah.
[41:28] Speaker 2: But then they get the money conversation, and I wanted
[41:30] Speaker 2: to ask you guys, how you felt about that, because
[41:34] Speaker 2: Bill is like, he's done with Kelsey getting money from
[41:38] Speaker 2: the other guy.
[41:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done with Kelsey's backup plan. He's like, you
[41:43] Speaker 3: need to sell that. And I don't blame them. He
[41:45] Speaker 3: needs to put his foot down at this point. You
[41:46] Speaker 3: want to be with me, you want to call us
[41:48] Speaker 3: a thing, give rid of that fucking car that your
[41:50] Speaker 3: ex is paying for.
[41:51] Speaker 5: Well, you know, Kelsey could also say are you going
[41:54] Speaker 5: to replace it?
[41:55] Speaker 2: And is what she did say. She said are you
[41:57] Speaker 2: gonna pay? Are you going to pay for it?
[41:58] Speaker 5: Are you going to replace it?
[42:00] Speaker 2: Because she's ever worked and this is what this is
[42:04] Speaker 2: what she's requiring.
[42:06] Speaker 5: If a man is yeah, if a man is demanding
[42:08] Speaker 5: you to give something up, then he needs to replace it.
[42:13] Speaker 2: And she's talking about also her medical insurance. She's like,
[42:16] Speaker 2: I have to have very good dollars a month.
[42:19] Speaker 4: Well, it's the first time.
[42:20] Speaker 3: We also heard that she had a brain tumor when
[42:22] Speaker 3: she was younger. We had never heard that before, And
[42:25] Speaker 3: I get the health insurance.
[42:27] Speaker 5: But it's a car.
[42:31] Speaker 3: It's just it's a necessity. Also, she doesn't need a
[42:34] Speaker 3: range Rover. If she can't afford a Range Rover. I
[42:36] Speaker 3: get what he's saying.
[42:39] Speaker 2: I'll get her a Honda a Cord, but get her something.
[42:44] Speaker 5: Listen, you know what he signed up for. She's a
[42:46] Speaker 5: kept woman from another man. She never said to him
[42:50] Speaker 5: I will give this stuff up. He never made it
[42:52] Speaker 5: a prerequisite. I am not going to be with you
[42:57] Speaker 5: if you're going to still be kept by another man. Okay,
[43:01] Speaker 5: So now they're in the relationship. He's saying, yeah, we're
[43:04] Speaker 5: we're an item, or we're we're together, but you know
[43:10] Speaker 5: you got to give this up. Does she not have
[43:12] Speaker 5: any money from day one? No, she has no money.
[43:15] Speaker 4: She has no money.
[43:16] Speaker 2: How would she have money. She's a first season housewife
[43:19] Speaker 2: who's still getting glammed. So let's say she's probably taking
[43:22] Speaker 2: home twenty five thousand.
[43:23] Speaker 5: Does I think her own good? Listen, at the end
[43:25] Speaker 5: of the day, you spend more on hair, makeup and
[43:29] Speaker 5: clothing than your Yeah.
[43:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way she's not making enough money to
[43:34] Speaker 2: pay for her insurance in her car and all that.
[43:36] Speaker 5: No way, no way. Pretty if you're young and pretty,
[43:40] Speaker 5: things look really good on you, so you buy. You
[43:42] Speaker 5: could buy cheaper clothes, otherwise you have to buy in
[43:45] Speaker 5: Alison Olivia, MUMU.
[43:47] Speaker 4: Oh my god, So you spend a lot of money
[43:49] Speaker 4: for that dress.
[43:50] Speaker 2: I fucking tad, that's the best part about it.
[43:53] Speaker 4: Oh shit, I don't know. I get what he's saying, Like.
[43:57] Speaker 2: I get what he's saying, but I also if you don't,
[44:00] Speaker 2: if you don't have the finances to back it up,
[44:03] Speaker 2: then this needed to be a discussion a long time ago,
[44:06] Speaker 2: like I'm only gonna be with you.
[44:08] Speaker 3: He was, they've been doing this for two years while
[44:11] Speaker 3: she was dating the other guy.
[44:13] Speaker 2: Well, and she's like, I needed to trust him and
[44:14] Speaker 2: he had to be celibate, and then he was like, oh,
[44:16] Speaker 2: celibate for a year.
[44:18] Speaker 3: And we also have to remember, according to the streets,
[44:22] Speaker 3: she's living with him. In real life, she's not living
[44:25] Speaker 3: in this apartment. I hope they touched down on that
[44:29] Speaker 3: on the reunion because I want to answer her.
[44:30] Speaker 2: But if then that's the case, then he's Bill's a
[44:32] Speaker 2: hypocrite too, because Bill is just feeding right into this narrative.
[44:36] Speaker 4: I think Bill's dann what Averry's told Bill's such a
[44:39] Speaker 4: nice guy.
[44:40] Speaker 5: Guys, he's a nice guy. He's so Billy. You don't
[44:46] Speaker 5: Billy is a really nice nice guy.
[45:01] Speaker 4: Well, let's get in his is I think he is.
[45:04] Speaker 3: But Joellen and Liz meet for lunch, both expecting apologies
[45:07] Speaker 3: from each other.
[45:09] Speaker 2: I would have liked, were you guys thinking there was
[45:11] Speaker 2: going to be an apology? No, there's no apology.
[45:14] Speaker 5: Now you know what.
[45:15] Speaker 3: Wait, let me take that back, I thought after after
[45:19] Speaker 3: the fact, Liz knows that she freaked out, she would
[45:23] Speaker 3: have went in a little softer and said.
[45:26] Speaker 4: Listen, like, Liz is right angry. Yeah, it's not helping her.
[45:31] Speaker 5: No, you're still mad. It's not time to sit across
[45:35] Speaker 5: from someone. There needs to be time. Of course, they're
[45:38] Speaker 5: filming a show, and there was no time to sit
[45:41] Speaker 5: and not have this happened. How about hey, listen, I
[45:45] Speaker 5: feel like they make up somewhere down the road.
[45:48] Speaker 2: Well they must, but they haven't yet. But I mean,
[45:52] Speaker 2: Liz couldn't even give joel In a courtesy laugh. When
[45:55] Speaker 2: she saw that her headlights were on and her nipples ro.
[45:57] Speaker 3: She was she was like this, she was like this,
[46:00] Speaker 3: She kept pulling her hair down.
[46:02] Speaker 4: I'm like you guys, it's raining out.
[46:05] Speaker 5: Isn't like a cart some nipple covers?
[46:07] Speaker 3: I know, I know I have someone, right, But also,
[46:10] Speaker 3: why didn't they move them inside?
[46:13] Speaker 5: Huh?
[46:14] Speaker 2: Why did they move them inside?
[46:15] Speaker 5: I guess they figured it was by the time I
[46:17] Speaker 5: got it was going to be a short lunch.
[46:19] Speaker 3: Well, Joee is like this, she's like freezing. She seems
[46:22] Speaker 3: like she's freezing. Then it starts pouring raining and her
[46:25] Speaker 3: nipples are out and she's trying to cover it with
[46:26] Speaker 3: her hair. Well, something else happened at that lunch, and
[46:30] Speaker 3: this is why I said, Liz is a good friend.
[46:34] Speaker 3: Do you think it's going to be a flash but
[46:36] Speaker 3: you can't tell us? But do you think it'll be
[46:37] Speaker 3: a flashback?
[46:38] Speaker 5: And then no, because it had to do with me.
[46:44] Speaker 2: And they also get into their friendship again, which made
[46:46] Speaker 2: me completely uncomfortable because.
[46:48] Speaker 3: You're not my best friend, Teddy, You're not my best friend,
[46:51] Speaker 3: Joelle and asked Liz why she is so cool cruel?
[46:54] Speaker 2: That's like that's worse than mean girl, Like, why she's
[46:57] Speaker 2: so cruel when she considers her a best friend. Lissays
[47:00] Speaker 2: they were never best friends. If I said you were
[47:03] Speaker 2: my best friend and you said Teddy, you're not. I
[47:06] Speaker 2: would go into hiding.
[47:07] Speaker 5: I know I would get my feelings. You would go
[47:09] Speaker 5: into hiding. You would go into hiding if you were
[47:13] Speaker 5: really saying it and not just to push a button.
[47:16] Speaker 2: But I think she really thinks that they were best friends.
[47:20] Speaker 5: Do you think that lizay the friendship? I don't.
[47:24] Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this is where Liz's behavior, this is where
[47:31] Speaker 3: behavior difference.
[47:33] Speaker 5: Between real best friends and show best friends.
[47:35] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, So Joe Allen brings up Bliss's behavior
[47:39] Speaker 3: pulling her hair which was a tug and pushing her
[47:43] Speaker 3: chair and she's.
[47:45] Speaker 5: Like, I didn't do that, and she gets mad.
[47:48] Speaker 4: About it and calls her like a liar.
[47:50] Speaker 5: And I'm like, if somebody but you did, and your
[47:53] Speaker 5: hair is in my face while I'm having an absolute
[47:56] Speaker 5: fucking meltdown, I'm going to say, get the and I'm
[48:00] Speaker 5: going to push the chair out of my space. She
[48:03] Speaker 5: didn't put push her off the chair, which would have
[48:06] Speaker 5: happened in New Jersey. She pushed the whole chair away
[48:11] Speaker 5: from her space.
[48:12] Speaker 2: I almost would have preferred if she yanked her hair
[48:15] Speaker 2: to them, just holding it, holding a piece of it,
[48:17] Speaker 2: like threatned she watched it.
[48:20] Speaker 3: Want that was That was her just showing that she
[48:24] Speaker 3: can control herself by just holding the hair.
[48:26] Speaker 5: I really want to rip this.
[48:27] Speaker 3: Bucking hair out of your head, but I was gonna
[48:30] Speaker 3: hold it and stare at your eyes.
[48:33] Speaker 5: It was kind of funny if you think about it,
[48:35] Speaker 5: and Joellen's like, oh my god, I got her right there.
[48:38] Speaker 5: I'm gonna get her to do it. I'm gonna the hair.
[48:41] Speaker 2: Was not a big deal. But the way she moved
[48:44] Speaker 2: the chair.
[48:45] Speaker 4: Why do you think that Liz had no memory of
[48:48] Speaker 4: this happening.
[48:50] Speaker 2: Because she had rage? By the way, you are enraged
[48:54] Speaker 2: with something you don't really remember full details.
[48:58] Speaker 5: Oh sure, the housewife want one.
[49:00] Speaker 3: If you're enrage and you get called out for doing something,
[49:03] Speaker 3: don't deny it. Don't deny it because there's going to
[49:06] Speaker 3: be a flashback. And that's exactly what. Like, you pushed
[49:09] Speaker 3: her away, you tugged on her hair, you did it,
[49:12] Speaker 3: and now you're gonna say.
[49:13] Speaker 4: I don't remember doing that.
[49:15] Speaker 2: I didn't do that. Liz then leaves the lunch yelling bye,
[49:21] Speaker 2: and she calls Joelan a piece of shit as she
[49:24] Speaker 2: gets in her car, while Joelan shakes her head saying, crazy, bitch,
[49:29] Speaker 2: I feel like This was one of the most classic
[49:31] Speaker 2: like sit down like where do you think is on
[49:36] Speaker 2: Housewives in a while?
[49:38] Speaker 4: Where do you think they go from here?
[49:40] Speaker 2: I mean, we see the scenes for next week where
[49:44] Speaker 2: when Rosie says to Rula coming up for next week's episode,
[49:48] Speaker 2: do you want to see the video? Do you want?
[49:50] Speaker 2: Like we all have it?
[49:52] Speaker 3: Do you want to see it? And I think she
[49:56] Speaker 3: says no, right, I don't I can't remember. But Rula
[50:02] Speaker 3: needs to get in the mix a little bit more.
[50:05] Speaker 3: Hopefully she she's what second seat at the reunion, so
[50:09] Speaker 3: which leads me to believe that she does get in
[50:12] Speaker 3: the mix in the next two episodes. They only have
[50:13] Speaker 3: two episodes left.
[50:15] Speaker 2: That's crazy to me. I'm just getting started.
[50:18] Speaker 4: Well, they're only doing twelve.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Do think do we know already if Jared and Ashley
[50:26] Speaker 2: if they kept the coffee shop or if they let
[50:28] Speaker 2: it go.
[50:29] Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.
[50:32] Speaker 4: I have no idea.
[50:33] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she kept it. I think he wants it.
[50:36] Speaker 5: I think he doesn't want to give up on it.
[50:37] Speaker 5: She would be happy if we got rid of it.
[50:40] Speaker 2: But I mean, that is a pretty good idea to
[50:42] Speaker 2: be able to have coffee than cocktails.
[50:46] Speaker 4: So currently right now, they don't serve cocktails, is that
[50:48] Speaker 4: what they were saying.
[50:49] Speaker 5: No, they do, but don't realize that that's no joke.
[50:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, that restaurants make a lot of their money is
[50:57] Speaker 3: off the liquor. Yeah, I mean they need help marketing.
[51:01] Speaker 3: I think they need some help I write. Yeah, I
[51:04] Speaker 3: think the problem is is brick and mortar businesses. It's
[51:07] Speaker 3: so hard to make money.
[51:09] Speaker 5: The rent is.
[51:10] Speaker 4: High, salaries and insurance is high.
[51:13] Speaker 5: Islands very seasonal, by the way.
[51:15] Speaker 4: All of it's so high.
[51:16] Speaker 5: So when you do the you know, profit and loss
[51:19] Speaker 5: and all this.
[51:19] Speaker 3: Stuff, and you put it all together, it's like, Wow,
[51:21] Speaker 3: working our ass off for two hundred thousand dollars.
[51:24] Speaker 5: He was almost going to cry. I think he can.
[51:27] Speaker 3: Make We can make more than that on social media.
[51:29] Speaker 3: So you's got to work smarter, not harder, I think.
[51:32] Speaker 2: But I think he loves it. I think he really
[51:35] Speaker 2: loves it.
[51:35] Speaker 5: He does. He enjoys it. Either loves it or he
[51:38] Speaker 5: feels he doesn't want to concede to feel well, that too,
[51:42] Speaker 5: but he doesn't want to concede to failure.
[51:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's when you put your heart and soul into
[51:48] Speaker 4: a business.
[51:48] Speaker 5: We did our ownd away from a m.
[51:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, Eddie did not like and we're in the same situation.
[51:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, I was making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year,
[51:56] Speaker 3: but you know what, it's in the big scheme of things,
[51:59] Speaker 3: our CBD businesses making that in a second.
[52:01] Speaker 4: So it's like, what do we do?
[52:04] Speaker 5: What do we do?
[52:05] Speaker 3: Like you want to work your ass off from five
[52:06] Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning till nine o'clock at night and
[52:08] Speaker 3: then get home and prep for the next No.
[52:11] Speaker 2: No, But I mean I thought it was a really
[52:13] Speaker 2: good episode. It was good.
[52:16] Speaker 5: Every episode is good on it was you know, at
[52:19] Speaker 5: Liz's expense of course, like she's having today, she's getting hammered,
[52:23] Speaker 5: and I you know, in the Bravo world, can we
[52:27] Speaker 5: just remember that everyone's still human?
[52:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is also something to think of, Liz,
[52:33] Speaker 2: And I know that I didn't. I wasn't on your
[52:35] Speaker 2: side for today's discussion. Love you, Liz, Like I think
[52:41] Speaker 2: that you're a real person. I think that you're a
[52:43] Speaker 2: good person. I think that you have love for your
[52:45] Speaker 2: good friends and you do anything for them. That I'm
[52:48] Speaker 2: discasting right now, well, people what I'm watching.
[52:51] Speaker 3: Well people will forget that the whole first nine episodes,
[52:56] Speaker 3: Liz is the fan favorite. And now she has a
[52:58] Speaker 3: bad day and she didn't act appropriate, and now it's
[53:03] Speaker 3: like death.
[53:04] Speaker 2: To her second bad day, just off with her head,
[53:07] Speaker 2: off with her bad day. I actually think this is
[53:10] Speaker 2: her third bad day.
[53:11] Speaker 5: No, what was the first or the second?
[53:13] Speaker 2: The first was at the when she got mad at Kelsey,
[53:18] Speaker 2: and then the second one was I thought, yeah.
[53:21] Speaker 5: That's just housewife shit.
[53:22] Speaker 2: That's just I mean, that's the point. Yes, this is
[53:25] Speaker 2: all housewife shit.
[53:26] Speaker 5: No, I think this is a little bit deeper.
[53:28] Speaker 3: This is showing a little part of her personality that
[53:31] Speaker 3: isn't favorable.
[53:34] Speaker 5: This is not Liz. This is not the Liz I know.
[53:37] Speaker 5: This isn't the Liz that Studio fifty four party. She
[53:40] Speaker 5: has had people in her life for thirty and forty years.
[53:45] Speaker 5: She has friends, people who you would think act in
[53:49] Speaker 5: a certain way every day, wouldn't have those type of friends.
[53:52] Speaker 5: Liz has friends, Liz has family. Liz has people in
[53:56] Speaker 5: her life that would not be there if she was
[53:58] Speaker 5: a person that was unreasonable or unrationable. Liz is a
[54:04] Speaker 5: good friend and a good good person, and I see
[54:07] Speaker 5: her do a lot of good things for people, and
[54:09] Speaker 5: I don't forget that because there's a bad day here.
[54:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, fans have so many different thoughts
[54:16] Speaker 3: on what went down. Like I have people saying, I
[54:18] Speaker 3: ask questions, you know, what did you think I'd want
[54:21] Speaker 3: to be in Liz's jail sale people are like, I
[54:24] Speaker 3: want to be in that gang. Then other people are
[54:26] Speaker 3: Liz is crazy. I like Liz, but I think she
[54:29] Speaker 3: was definitely overreacting.
[54:31] Speaker 5: Shocking.
[54:32] Speaker 3: Why did Liz act like Joellen's friend? Then it's like
[54:35] Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with with Liz. Joellen is stirring the pot
[54:39] Speaker 3: shut up like it's it's it's split.
[54:42] Speaker 2: But I think it's all through the board because I
[54:45] Speaker 2: think they made us go through a range of emotions
[54:48] Speaker 2: during this. You know, I think if they would have
[54:51] Speaker 2: tied it up in a nice little bow for us
[54:53] Speaker 2: at the lunch, the raining lunch, then I think we
[54:58] Speaker 2: would be having a different conversation right now. But I
[55:00] Speaker 2: think she came in, and I think Liz came in
[55:03] Speaker 2: still pissed.
[55:05] Speaker 5: I think she was still pissed. But I also think
[55:08] Speaker 5: that we didn't see a lot of what happened at
[55:11] Speaker 5: that lunch.
[55:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, either way, we're all talking about it. The
[55:16] Speaker 3: show is a huge success, already picked up for season two.
[55:21] Speaker 4: So well, I think the show I hope goes.
[55:24] Speaker 5: Back Liz McGraw.
[55:25] Speaker 2: So of course the show needs Liz, The show needs
[55:29] Speaker 2: Live but the show also needs Joe Ellen.
[55:32] Speaker 5: Yeah right, they only I.
[55:34] Speaker 3: Mean, I don't mean to sound mean, but the only
[55:36] Speaker 3: one that I'd be questioning about is Rula because she
[55:38] Speaker 3: just hasn't been filming, right, But.
[55:42] Speaker 5: I think we're going to get some also as a
[55:45] Speaker 5: full time job. Well, is anyone a friend of or
[55:49] Speaker 5: We don't know yet.
[55:50] Speaker 2: We don't know yet. We haven't been told if there's
[55:52] Speaker 2: anything not a big cast. No, they all stand you're
[55:56] Speaker 2: a friend of right.
[55:58] Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that would be you, Delores.
[56:08] Speaker 2: We've all lost our damn minds. But thanks guys for
[56:11] Speaker 2: tuning in for another episode of to Teas in a Pod.
[56:14] Speaker 2: When we recapture, we don't know what we're talking about.

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