# Dirty Rush: This S**t is Crazy- Sorority Rush is truly unhinged... but also kind awesome

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 15 Aug 2026, 26 min.

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Bachelor fan favorite Gabi Elnicki joins mom Trista Sutter and Grandma Joan Vassos to give you the real Dirty Rush dirt. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
[0:04] Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hi, everybody, this is Trista Setter.
[0:13] Speaker 2: I'm here with Joan Vassos. Is that how you pronounce
[0:17] Speaker 2: your name? I've never even said it out loud?
[0:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, you did it perfectly. Funny, you do it perfectly.
[0:21] Speaker 3: It is that's funny. We don't do you know.
[0:24] Speaker 2: I'm like, that's so random. And Gabby, we are here
[0:29] Speaker 2: for Dirty Rush and we're so excited, and of course
[0:31] Speaker 2: we're in Tahoe. We were talking about how much fun
[0:34] Speaker 2: it is to do these events. Have you done other
[0:37] Speaker 2: iHeart events for us?
[0:39] Speaker 4: I went to jingle Ball okay, yes, in La which
[0:42] Speaker 4: was so fun. But that is the only other iHeart
[0:45] Speaker 4: event and I am loving it here. I've never been
[0:47] Speaker 4: to Tahoe and I'm like, this is insane.
[0:50] Speaker 3: Isn't the most beautiful?
[0:50] Speaker 2: If I want to move here, I'm like on zillow,
[0:52] Speaker 2: you know, just like you or my husband, I guarantee
[0:55] Speaker 2: you every probably over place I go to.
[0:57] Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this one looks nice.
[0:58] Speaker 3: Five million dollars.
[1:00] Speaker 6: I spent every vacation of my entire life with my
[1:03] Speaker 6: late husband, him deciding that we had to buy a place, and.
[1:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
[1:08] Speaker 5: I'm not sending it to my fiance.
[1:09] Speaker 4: I'm like, we could live here, you know, we just
[1:12] Speaker 4: got a house, but like, what about this one?
[1:14] Speaker 2: Yeah? I love it. I love it. Yes, Tahoe is amazing.
[1:19] Speaker 2: So thank you for coming. I know we talked a
[1:23] Speaker 2: little bit about pickleball and you don't know a lot
[1:27] Speaker 2: about it, but I'm here to help.
[1:29] Speaker 5: Thank you so much. You're such a giver.
[1:32] Speaker 3: She's just recruiting people to be in her. In her
[1:36] Speaker 3: I don't want to.
[1:37] Speaker 2: Get her to do it to you.
[1:38] Speaker 4: I want to get into it, but like I need
[1:40] Speaker 4: to take a lesson. I actually know what's going on.
[1:44] Speaker 4: I just need to know, like the lingo and the roles,
[1:47] Speaker 4: and then.
[1:47] Speaker 5: I feel like, okay, it's just probably.
[1:49] Speaker 3: You have long legs. You look like an athlete.
[1:52] Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
[1:53] Speaker 3: I want you on my team.
[1:53] Speaker 5: I do plates you.
[1:57] Speaker 3: Because I'm not going to be that good. Just pre
[1:59] Speaker 3: warning you.
[2:00] Speaker 2: Oh all right, back to dirty Rush. So we're going
[2:03] Speaker 2: to go through schools that we went to. Where were
[2:07] Speaker 2: you in college?
[2:08] Speaker 5: I went to Ole Miss Oh, so craziest rush place. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
[2:15] Speaker 5: it was wild.
[2:17] Speaker 2: And when did you graduate?
[2:18] Speaker 4: I graduated in twenty nineteen, so kind of before all
[2:21] Speaker 4: the like TikTok.
[2:22] Speaker 3: Stuff happened, dancing, the matching outfits and all that.
[2:25] Speaker 4: Yeah, and before like the whole like documentary came out
[2:31] Speaker 4: about Bama Rush.
[2:32] Speaker 5: I like was right before that. Yeah, experienced it before
[2:36] Speaker 5: you went oh no, no no.
[2:38] Speaker 4: I was, like I graduated right before all graduated like
[2:41] Speaker 4: started becoming like such a social media craze, which I'm
[2:46] Speaker 4: kind of glad because I was just gonna ask you, Yeah,
[2:49] Speaker 4: I think it would have been too much ole Miss.
[2:50] Speaker 4: I mean, the girls do not mess around. You guys
[2:53] Speaker 4: have probably seen like game day outfits. Ole Miss is
[2:56] Speaker 4: like next level girls being.
[2:59] Speaker 5: Extra yeah in the best way. Yeah, And I love
[3:02] Speaker 5: that for them.
[3:03] Speaker 6: But I love it how people dress up for the
[3:05] Speaker 6: games and they make it. They make the Saturday is
[3:08] Speaker 6: like an event every Saturday during football completely it's it
[3:11] Speaker 6: is and and the sororities and fraternities are like such
[3:13] Speaker 6: a big part of it. They are they're not athletes,
[3:15] Speaker 6: but they are as big as you know, for the
[3:18] Speaker 6: football day, as any as the players are.
[3:20] Speaker 4: I mean, those are like the tenths you go to
[3:22] Speaker 4: so you like always have a little home to go
[3:24] Speaker 4: to that has food and everything you need except alcohol,
[3:28] Speaker 4: So you got to go to the frat tents for that,
[3:31] Speaker 4: but you know where to find out.
[3:35] Speaker 2: So I went to Indiana graduated in ninety one five,
[3:41] Speaker 2: graduating ninety five, and I was an alpha kai. What
[3:44] Speaker 2: were you? I was a pie fi Okay, amazing. I'm
[3:46] Speaker 2: going to write you down for my letters of recommendation
[3:48] Speaker 2: for my daughter. I'm just kidding. I just wrote down Joan.
[3:55] Speaker 2: But I she might be going through it next year
[3:59] Speaker 2: because she's going next year. We don't know she's saying
[4:02] Speaker 2: in high school.
[4:02] Speaker 5: It's just saying okay o exciting.
[4:05] Speaker 2: So I'm kind of right kind of reliving all of
[4:08] Speaker 2: this through her a little bit.
[4:11] Speaker 3: I'm getting nervous right now because it's a lot of pressure.
[4:14] Speaker 5: It's so much.
[4:16] Speaker 4: I went and I'm from Vermont, and I didn't know
[4:19] Speaker 4: like how sororities and fraternities were, and I knew rush
[4:23] Speaker 4: was going to be a big thing, but I didn't
[4:25] Speaker 4: know all of the stuff that went into it, so
[4:27] Speaker 4: I didn't have recommendation letters like I remember emailing people
[4:31] Speaker 4: desperately like before I went, like please write me a wreck,
[4:34] Speaker 4: Like here's my resume and I'm a good person.
[4:37] Speaker 5: Here's a picture of me.
[4:39] Speaker 2: And I didn't I didn't get a lot.
[4:41] Speaker 5: So it's like really hard to.
[4:44] Speaker 1: Know.
[4:45] Speaker 5: They're like, oh, you know legacy, Sorry, I can't help.
[4:49] Speaker 4: I mean it's legacies, like the top houses are you
[4:55] Speaker 4: really have to be a legacy or you have to know.
[4:57] Speaker 5: People when all the top houses you would.
[4:59] Speaker 4: Say, it's Katie, Ti, Dell, and Kyo. Those are like
[5:04] Speaker 4: the three top houses and Katie is like where like
[5:07] Speaker 4: Leanne Touey went. That's that's her sorority.
[5:11] Speaker 2: So it was kind of crazy, is that sorry? The
[5:14] Speaker 2: blind Side No, the movie football Player, that is the mother.
[5:20] Speaker 2: The mother is Tety and so she was like a
[5:23] Speaker 2: huge donor.
[5:24] Speaker 5: And like like.
[5:25] Speaker 4: When we would go through Rush, they put in like
[5:27] Speaker 4: very strict parameters, like the second year I was there,
[5:31] Speaker 4: so you couldn't do like there used to be a
[5:33] Speaker 4: skit round where you would do like these crazy fun skits.
[5:36] Speaker 4: They took that out because they wanted to be like
[5:38] Speaker 4: a more even playing field and they made us wear
[5:40] Speaker 4: like specific T shirts. You could only wear the T
[5:42] Speaker 4: shirts until like Sisterhood and then you could or pref
[5:46] Speaker 4: and you could wear a dress, but.
[5:49] Speaker 5: Show no, they get.
[5:52] Speaker 4: Fined, like big fines, like fifty thousand dollars like fines,
[5:55] Speaker 4: and she would pay.
[5:56] Speaker 2: It a thousand dollars fines.
[6:01] Speaker 4: I didn't know. I don't know how much it was,
[6:02] Speaker 4: but it was rumored that, like because they would wear
[6:05] Speaker 4: like light up shoes and that's against the rules, like
[6:07] Speaker 4: because you can't like try to like waite for adults.
[6:10] Speaker 4: Like yeah, like they would like so we would have
[6:12] Speaker 4: to do the chance right and they'd be doing the
[6:14] Speaker 4: chants with their feet and they would be like in
[6:16] Speaker 4: light up shoes.
[6:18] Speaker 5: It was crazy.
[6:18] Speaker 4: Russia Ole miss was so insane. And when you were
[6:21] Speaker 4: the one like putting it on like our people, I
[6:24] Speaker 4: also don't know I'm allowed to say, but whatever, they
[6:26] Speaker 4: can come for me. They would go to the top
[6:29] Speaker 4: of the street and they would have us in the
[6:32] Speaker 4: house and if they could not hear us screaming at
[6:34] Speaker 4: the top of the street with the door shut.
[6:36] Speaker 5: Then we had to keep doing it and keep doing it.
[6:39] Speaker 2: My lord.
[6:42] Speaker 3: We loved.
[6:42] Speaker 5: We had so much fun. I mean, was like the
[6:45] Speaker 5: best week.
[6:46] Speaker 4: It is like, well, so you do like rush prep
[6:49] Speaker 4: week and you go the week before school and you
[6:51] Speaker 4: have all themed days and that's when you really got screaming.
[6:55] Speaker 4: But Rush nights you would be up all night, like
[6:58] Speaker 4: you'd be at the sorority house to.
[6:59] Speaker 2: Like, Yes, it's such a bonding time truly, and they
[7:03] Speaker 2: always put it right at like midterms. Yeah.
[7:06] Speaker 4: I was like, this is perfect because OLMOS is one
[7:08] Speaker 4: of the only schools and it doesn't.
[7:10] Speaker 5: Rush before I went there.
[7:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, so that apparently it's like for girls who like
[7:16] Speaker 4: try to transfer something if they don't get this, I
[7:20] Speaker 4: don't know there is leasing to it.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Now I'm questioning myself if Indiana did. My brain doesn't
[7:24] Speaker 2: work very well these days. But yes, that's that's crazy crazy. Yeah,
[7:29] Speaker 2: oh my gosh. I love all these crazy stories. No,
[7:32] Speaker 2: it's so many because I also don't remember so much
[7:35] Speaker 2: of my experience. I just have a bad memory anyway.
[7:38] Speaker 2: But what I do remember is Rush, so our different
[7:43] Speaker 2: I was in Alpha Kai yeah, and our story and
[7:47] Speaker 2: like all the sororities that Indiana and Indiana has a
[7:50] Speaker 2: massive Greek system and we would all do the skits
[7:54] Speaker 2: and so you're part of all the skits and I
[7:57] Speaker 2: remember that, like my mom was a buyer for sacks,
[8:03] Speaker 2: but maybe not at that time, like maybe it was
[8:06] Speaker 2: one of the Targets stores or whatever with their department stores,
[8:09] Speaker 2: and so she would have like stuff laying around the
[8:11] Speaker 2: house that like it was a sample. Yeah exactly. So
[8:16] Speaker 2: I had samples of sequin dresses. And I remember like
[8:18] Speaker 2: we did a skit and we needed dresses or something.
[8:21] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I got that. And just like just
[8:24] Speaker 2: the bonding time with your with your friends who were
[8:28] Speaker 2: like excited about the skits, whether it's dancing or singing
[8:31] Speaker 2: or talking or hosting or like just getting people excited.
[8:34] Speaker 2: I just remember that as such a special time where
[8:38] Speaker 2: we all got to just bondh and have fun together.
[8:41] Speaker 2: It was so fun.
[8:42] Speaker 5: I made so many friends.
[8:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated it at first, So did you.
[8:45] Speaker 4: Freshman year, I was like I didn't want pie Fi.
[8:48] Speaker 4: I want to find you, okay, And my gamma Kay
[8:52] Speaker 4: got me a recommendation letter from pi FI.
[8:55] Speaker 5: And because I was too scared to like dirty rush.
[8:59] Speaker 2: Actually does actually dirty rush meaning you said I like
[9:02] Speaker 2: Ole miss Like, basically, if you're like being dirty Rush,
[9:05] Speaker 2: it means you're going outside of the rules of engagement
[9:09] Speaker 2: for potential new members.
[9:11] Speaker 4: So like let's say like a Kappa was like, Hey,
[9:14] Speaker 4: come to my pregame. That is dirty rushing because they
[9:17] Speaker 4: are rushing.
[9:18] Speaker 3: You outsideide of the rush.
[9:20] Speaker 4: So the only time you're allowed to interact with the
[9:23] Speaker 4: sorority girls that are active members, it was during this
[9:27] Speaker 4: thing called the Care Walk, which is like a breast
[9:29] Speaker 4: cancer awareness walk. And so I was like scared to
[9:34] Speaker 4: like get in trouble, and so I stuck with my
[9:37] Speaker 4: gamma Ka. I was the only person that stayed with
[9:39] Speaker 4: our gamma Kai. All the other ones went to like
[9:41] Speaker 4: the girls that they were trying to.
[9:42] Speaker 5: Like rush for you.
[9:44] Speaker 4: Yeah, so they went to the different girls they knew
[9:46] Speaker 4: and the sororities.
[9:47] Speaker 5: What happens to those girls, Like if they're well.
[9:50] Speaker 4: They're okay because they're allowed to interact on that day
[9:52] Speaker 4: because you can't tell somebody what pace they can walk at,
[9:55] Speaker 4: like everyone they're gonna be out there, you can, I mean,
[9:58] Speaker 4: if you want to speed walk, speed walk.
[10:00] Speaker 5: So that was a dirty rushing.
[10:03] Speaker 4: But that's why she was like, I thought it was
[10:05] Speaker 4: really nice for sticking with her.
[10:07] Speaker 5: So she got me a wreck letter.
[10:09] Speaker 4: But I wanted to find you, and I almost was
[10:11] Speaker 4: like I was, I was like, I'm not running home
[10:14] Speaker 4: to pi Fey.
[10:15] Speaker 5: Yeah, but I loved it.
[10:16] Speaker 3: You end up loving it.
[10:17] Speaker 5: Yeah, I ended up loving it.
[10:18] Speaker 6: I went to University of Maryland and I was a
[10:20] Speaker 6: Delta game. I graduated in eighty five. I didn't rush.
[10:23] Speaker 6: I rushed when I was a sophomore, and I didn't
[10:25] Speaker 6: get DGI, so I just didn't take a bid from
[10:28] Speaker 6: the sorority that I got an offer from, which would
[10:32] Speaker 6: have been actually a great match for me, and I
[10:34] Speaker 6: maybe should have done that. But I rushed again the
[10:36] Speaker 6: next year without any guarantee, and I got DGI, which
[10:39] Speaker 6: was what I wanted.
[10:41] Speaker 3: But like, I'm not.
[10:42] Speaker 6: Positive like that was the end all I thought it
[10:45] Speaker 6: was at the time because I had a good friend,
[10:46] Speaker 6: I knew girls in that sorority. Yeah, and I felt
[10:48] Speaker 6: comfortable there, but I was. I got an offer from
[10:51] Speaker 6: Theta and it was a really good house, and my
[10:54] Speaker 6: best friend ended up going there becoming a Theta and
[10:57] Speaker 6: like she had a great college experience. So like I
[11:00] Speaker 6: think you can you might be surprised if you don't
[11:03] Speaker 6: get your first choice, that it may happen for a reason.
[11:08] Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I ended you loving it.
[11:09] Speaker 4: And I met like so many of my best friends there,
[11:12] Speaker 4: and I had best friends and other sororities too, so
[11:14] Speaker 4: it was like fine, yeah, we all like sometimes we like.
[11:17] Speaker 5: Crash each other's like date parties exactly.
[11:19] Speaker 1: I love that it kicked out, but we're like no,
[11:21] Speaker 1: like I'm the d D, Like yeah, hello, it's yeah.
[11:25] Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay.
[11:41] Speaker 2: I want to go through some aspects of recruitment that
[11:44] Speaker 2: are really big today and just talk about our opinions.
[11:48] Speaker 2: So social media marketing, we've got hiring social media directors
[11:54] Speaker 2: to promote your sorority during work week. That's a thing.
[11:57] Speaker 4: That's been a thing that has been a thing, but
[11:59] Speaker 4: it was just different. Like when I went through Rush
[12:02] Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, it.
[12:05] Speaker 7: Was like like thirteen fifteen, fifteen, twenty fifteen, it was
[12:10] Speaker 7: like people was making they were making music videos, right,
[12:12] Speaker 7: and so they would hire like companies to basically make
[12:15] Speaker 7: music videos.
[12:16] Speaker 4: It was different, but it was the same, and they'd
[12:18] Speaker 4: be on YouTube and Facebook and like, oh my gosh,
[12:21] Speaker 4: it was electric. It was like, I mean, it'll take
[12:24] Speaker 4: you back if you watch it. I mean it's like
[12:26] Speaker 4: girls like dancing around, Like I'm like, you know the
[12:28] Speaker 4: OG videos of like girls like frolicking around together, Like,
[12:33] Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I want to be a part of that.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Oh my god.
[12:36] Speaker 5: So that's been a thing.
[12:38] Speaker 3: I wow, for a while, it really sold you. You
[12:42] Speaker 3: rush yeah, and you're like, oh my god, that's the
[12:44] Speaker 3: house I wanted.
[12:45] Speaker 2: You want to be part of a solreaty because of
[12:47] Speaker 2: their social media marketing.
[12:49] Speaker 4: Not necessarily, but there's ones I didn't want to be
[12:50] Speaker 4: a part of.
[12:51] Speaker 2: Really. I was like, I don't think it can work
[12:54] Speaker 2: against them.
[12:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, so it can, but like it's like everything in life, right,
[12:59] Speaker 4: like okay, Like I mean maybe.
[13:00] Speaker 6: That video attracted other types of girls and that it
[13:03] Speaker 6: worked out right each other.
[13:06] Speaker 4: I wouldn't have fit in at like tried all yeah,
[13:09] Speaker 4: like those aren't my girls, but they're beautiful and cute
[13:12] Speaker 4: and southern and proper.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:15] Speaker 4: I was like from the Northeast, Like you know, I
[13:17] Speaker 4: wasn't totally Yeah, I'm not proper. I'm like I like
[13:21] Speaker 4: on the farm, you know.
[13:23] Speaker 2: So it's good to do right now, you're just stunning, Okay,
[13:29] Speaker 2: TikTok dances. I'm sure you all have seen the dances
[13:31] Speaker 2: on social media. They're they're full out routines. Is so true.
[13:35] Speaker 2: The picking of the front girls is a big deal.
[13:39] Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what goes down when they're auditioning,
[13:46] Speaker 2: Like who first of all is it the rush director
[13:48] Speaker 2: who's auditioning and she's the one who picks and it
[13:51] Speaker 2: is usual friend chair.
[13:52] Speaker 4: That like is like a dance well at least for us,
[13:55] Speaker 4: it was like there was a chair that was assigned
[13:57] Speaker 4: by the rush person yea, or not a chair, but
[14:00] Speaker 4: like somebody that ran it. And she was like somebody
[14:03] Speaker 4: who did dance all through high school where was on
[14:05] Speaker 4: the dance team.
[14:06] Speaker 2: And she was like, I can.
[14:07] Speaker 4: Choreograph, yep, I can teach the girls all of this.
[14:11] Speaker 4: And then that's how it was decided. Or they choose
[14:15] Speaker 4: the cute girls and give you.
[14:16] Speaker 5: Something simple yep, like like our doorstacks.
[14:19] Speaker 2: They would what's that mean?
[14:20] Speaker 5: Oh so almoss, I love.
[14:24] Speaker 2: Me.
[14:24] Speaker 4: They banned this, I think because they were actually dangerous.
[14:27] Speaker 4: But literally we would start so the bottom girls would
[14:30] Speaker 4: be on their hands and knees and we would climb
[14:32] Speaker 4: on top of each other, so we would stack all
[14:34] Speaker 4: the way up the door and so we would oh
[14:36] Speaker 4: my god, it like actually haunts me.
[14:38] Speaker 5: Would be like flipping our freaking heads like rush proby.
[14:42] Speaker 3: I mean it was.
[14:43] Speaker 5: It was borderline demonic. But to where to God?
[14:46] Speaker 2: I have a video going on, people, I will show you.
[14:49] Speaker 4: After this this video from I have to go on
[14:51] Speaker 4: my Snapchat memories, but it is crazy.
[14:54] Speaker 3: Gosh, oh, oh my god.
[14:57] Speaker 5: That's a doorstack.
[14:58] Speaker 1: That's it.
[14:59] Speaker 2: Why didn't you it was like furniture to stand on
[15:02] Speaker 2: instead of because we did.
[15:03] Speaker 5: Once the girls were out of the house, we rushed,
[15:06] Speaker 5: We rushed to the front.
[15:07] Speaker 2: We all stepped up.
[15:08] Speaker 4: So then we were like bye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye from
[15:13] Speaker 4: that one hundred girls, I think nar Yeah, and then
[15:17] Speaker 4: you had girls like like behind like being like bye bye.
[15:20] Speaker 3: Because they could they couldn't get that.
[15:22] Speaker 2: It's crazy.
[15:22] Speaker 3: They couldn't be seen.
[15:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just insane.
[15:25] Speaker 3: I can't imagine how those top people got up.
[15:26] Speaker 5: There, and did they ever get They run and jump
[15:29] Speaker 5: on each other.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just stepping on sisters. Yeah, that's a message
[15:33] Speaker 3: you want to show.
[15:34] Speaker 5: Hold each other up.
[15:35] Speaker 3: Look at us. We step on each other.
[15:37] Speaker 2: We hold hold each other.
[15:40] Speaker 3: It's all about the marketing. Yep, each other each.
[15:44] Speaker 5: Other up exactly.
[15:45] Speaker 2: Okay. This is a big thing that I have seen
[15:47] Speaker 2: lately is sponsorships. Brands are partnering with sororities to promote
[15:50] Speaker 2: their brands, like Poppy with alex Earle. I remember seeing
[15:54] Speaker 2: her walking into her sorority house or during rush or whatever.
[15:59] Speaker 2: I wonder it's kind of like the the football trend
[16:05] Speaker 2: of like paying the college athlete. I know, and I
[16:09] Speaker 2: don't know if I like it.
[16:10] Speaker 3: I mean, guining brand sponsorships.
[16:12] Speaker 2: I mean I feel like, yes, good for them, but
[16:16] Speaker 2: also I don't know, there's something like kind of like.
[16:21] Speaker 4: It's true market like it are you talking like person
[16:24] Speaker 4: a person, like one person gets a brand new or
[16:27] Speaker 4: it's for the sorority as a whole sorority.
[16:28] Speaker 6: I think like Poppy will give you know, twenty cases
[16:32] Speaker 6: a poppy and they want you to show them holding it.
[16:34] Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I will say if they're making money
[16:37] Speaker 4: from it, if it goes to the sorority, and oh
[16:39] Speaker 4: they should be paying the sorority for if it helps
[16:42] Speaker 4: with maintenance and lowering people's dues.
[16:44] Speaker 2: True, I'm good with that.
[16:45] Speaker 5: If it goes to philanthropy, I'm good with that, true story.
[16:47] Speaker 3: But if it's just.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Being I mean, because there's a brand like wanting exposure
[16:52] Speaker 2: and being like, well, we're sending all this stuff, so
[16:54] Speaker 2: just post it.
[16:55] Speaker 5: It's like, well, like.
[16:56] Speaker 4: You're getting a lot of like exposure from this, and
[16:59] Speaker 4: you know these girls are going to be so excited
[17:00] Speaker 4: about your products, they're going to go out and.
[17:01] Speaker 2: Buy them themselves. Totally agree.
[17:03] Speaker 4: So I don't know, I feel like there are good
[17:07] Speaker 4: things that come from that. And like I know, our
[17:10] Speaker 4: dues were really high and then they started doing renovations
[17:12] Speaker 4: on our house and they like went up so much.
[17:14] Speaker 2: Remember last year, I was like, thank god, I'm leaving, Like, yeah,
[17:17] Speaker 2: these are crazy.
[17:19] Speaker 5: It was like another tuition.
[17:20] Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, if someone smart in the in
[17:23] Speaker 2: the sorority house or at the university or whatever is
[17:25] Speaker 2: setting up brand deals for your actual house and you're
[17:29] Speaker 2: able to, like you said, give back to your philanthropy
[17:33] Speaker 2: or pay for dues or renovations or whatever. Great. So
[17:37] Speaker 2: it's an all group thing. But if there's one particular person,
[17:40] Speaker 2: I just don't know if that like would sit well
[17:43] Speaker 2: with me.
[17:44] Speaker 3: I didn't picture it that way.
[17:45] Speaker 2: You know, like if one person is getting like security
[17:52] Speaker 2: sisters to like like that, but you know, whatever to
[17:58] Speaker 2: each if it was a whole like it, yeah, I
[18:01] Speaker 2: think it would be. Yeah.
[18:02] Speaker 6: I think it's actually be kind of interesting to see
[18:05] Speaker 6: what brands sorry, it's actually offer like you could see
[18:08] Speaker 6: I can see a lot of lipstick brands.
[18:09] Speaker 3: I could see a lot of makeup brands.
[18:11] Speaker 2: Offering make up.
[18:12] Speaker 3: I could see. I could see a big industry there,
[18:15] Speaker 3: like the odor.
[18:16] Speaker 2: It would be a like Salt and Stone needs to
[18:18] Speaker 2: get in there because there's a great like none of
[18:21] Speaker 2: these cute cute or any there's a ton of tennis
[18:27] Speaker 2: skirts you have to all the time, like.
[18:30] Speaker 3: Sure, yeah they could.
[18:33] Speaker 5: There are opportunities.
[18:34] Speaker 3: There are a lot of opper many of the schools
[18:37] Speaker 3: where you could offer them.
[18:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[18:39] Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we should get into this business.
[18:41] Speaker 6: I mean, okay, the three of us, we should do this.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Okay.
[19:00] Speaker 2: Outfits of the Day. Both actives and p and ms
[19:03] Speaker 2: post their outfits of the day on their social media,
[19:05] Speaker 2: explaining where every item is from.
[19:07] Speaker 3: Great Little Brandy not.
[19:11] Speaker 2: I mean, I love outfits of the day for me,
[19:14] Speaker 2: especially like the discount ones where I'm like, you want
[19:17] Speaker 2: that from Walmart? I'm going, I'm.
[19:21] Speaker 3: I never before in my life and I went and
[19:24] Speaker 3: went and I did a Walmart hole.
[19:26] Speaker 2: Lately really good, such good.
[19:27] Speaker 5: Stuff like that. My Texas home line is insane.
[19:34] Speaker 3: No I haven't seen it.
[19:35] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I've I bought like ten of them. Okay,
[19:39] Speaker 5: they have.
[19:42] Speaker 2: So good. I'm all about that. Like if girls want
[19:44] Speaker 2: to share their own outfits of the day, like go
[19:48] Speaker 2: for it.
[19:49] Speaker 4: I will say, it can be a brutal place. Though
[19:51] Speaker 4: I read some of the comments, I'm like.
[19:52] Speaker 2: Oh, oh, like people are ruthless, and then it makes
[19:56] Speaker 2: me sad because I like think about how scary rushes
[19:59] Speaker 2: and how intimidate and then I'm like, like, you're right,
[20:03] Speaker 2: she's just a girl. You're just especially thinking about my
[20:08] Speaker 2: daughter going I would want about that because I wouldn't
[20:12] Speaker 2: want to know.
[20:12] Speaker 4: It just like makes me so sad because it really
[20:15] Speaker 4: is kind of a toxic experience because you just you
[20:19] Speaker 4: doubt yourself so much.
[20:21] Speaker 3: It's an ego like it is.
[20:25] Speaker 5: Yeah, it just like tears you down a little bit.
[20:27] Speaker 3: No matter well, you're super vulnerable freshman in college.
[20:29] Speaker 4: Unless you like really go in. You're like, I'm a
[20:32] Speaker 4: triple legacy here. I know exactly where I'm going to
[20:34] Speaker 4: go to people like worship literally at your feet, because
[20:38] Speaker 4: that's what they do.
[20:39] Speaker 2: They do your.
[20:40] Speaker 5: Feet, sit by the feet, we say on legacy people.
[20:43] Speaker 4: No, no, no, everyone like I would sit like if
[20:46] Speaker 4: I was the p and M I would and I
[20:49] Speaker 4: was the active would be sitting right here really like
[20:52] Speaker 4: on their knees, like talking to me, like.
[20:55] Speaker 2: And you were the triple Legacy or is this for everybody?
[20:57] Speaker 4: I just mean, like if it wasn't like my my
[21:00] Speaker 4: experience was like really daunting and scary and intimidating. And
[21:04] Speaker 4: I do feel like it bruised my ego, which that's
[21:08] Speaker 4: always a good thing. You can only go up from there.
[21:10] Speaker 4: Sometimes you need to be humbled. But I just feel
[21:14] Speaker 4: for some of the girls that post things and then
[21:16] Speaker 4: they just get like absolutely destroyed.
[21:18] Speaker 5: I'm like, she's just trying to like do what everyone
[21:21] Speaker 5: is trying to be.
[21:23] Speaker 2: Can you I'm sorry, I'm going to go back to this,
[21:26] Speaker 2: like sitting with everyone sitting at your feet. That's how
[21:28] Speaker 2: it works now, Yeah.
[21:29] Speaker 4: So like I could pretend to do you know, but yeah,
[21:34] Speaker 4: so they like sit right there, like literally at.
[21:37] Speaker 2: Your knees and they're literally sitting on the ground and
[21:40] Speaker 2: you're in a chair.
[21:41] Speaker 4: The P and M is in a chair, and then
[21:43] Speaker 4: the active person is on their knees sitting next to you.
[21:47] Speaker 4: And then when it gets to and it's just one,
[21:48] Speaker 4: it's just one, so it's one to one.
[21:50] Speaker 5: And then somebody if it's a girl that you I
[21:53] Speaker 5: don't know if I'm well, I don't I didn't sign
[21:56] Speaker 5: that NDA.
[21:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think I like, I don't know. Anyways,
[22:02] Speaker 4: maybe if they're really good, I'm they would like shift
[22:05] Speaker 4: like more girls to come and talk to them so
[22:07] Speaker 4: they felt really loved okay, so like it'd be like, oh,
[22:09] Speaker 4: I met this girl and I met this girl and
[22:10] Speaker 4: they're so cute and like, you know, you learn all
[22:13] Speaker 4: the questions to ask people, and like, if you get
[22:16] Speaker 4: somebody talking about we actually did like a workshop to
[22:19] Speaker 4: like show you how to talk to people, and it's
[22:22] Speaker 4: stuck with me my whole life. But if you get
[22:24] Speaker 4: really great lesson it is and if you can get
[22:26] Speaker 4: people to talk about themselves, they only remember you're right,
[22:31] Speaker 4: like it that it was a good Like that's good.
[22:33] Speaker 4: They like them more because they were talking about themselves,
[22:36] Speaker 4: because everyone loves themselves deep down and they just want
[22:39] Speaker 4: to talk about themselves. So if you can get a
[22:41] Speaker 4: girl talking about themselves, they will like.
[22:44] Speaker 5: You more and like your house.
[22:46] Speaker 2: Are you saying that you would recommend for people who
[22:51] Speaker 2: because you are the most recent of the three of
[22:53] Speaker 2: us to go through this For my daughter, are you
[22:56] Speaker 2: saying that you would recommend for her to make the
[23:00] Speaker 2: active talk about themselves so that it leaves a positive
[23:05] Speaker 2: input and question.
[23:07] Speaker 4: I feel like if you can find common ground with
[23:10] Speaker 4: someone and like ask questions, that will, like, you know,
[23:14] Speaker 4: help you find that.
[23:15] Speaker 5: Like honestly, I.
[23:17] Speaker 4: Got to find my notebook from my therapist because she
[23:19] Speaker 4: gave me some really go.
[23:22] Speaker 5: Will because it was like truly amazing.
[23:24] Speaker 4: She like gave me like a bullet point list of
[23:25] Speaker 4: like how to get people to open up. And I
[23:29] Speaker 4: got it before I went on the show because I
[23:32] Speaker 4: was like, I'm scared of all these girls, like I
[23:34] Speaker 4: like feel like I'm like I don't know what I'm
[23:36] Speaker 4: gonna do. I like feel like I can't talk to people.
[23:38] Speaker 4: And she was like, no, you're really good at talking
[23:40] Speaker 4: to people. I was like, like, well what do you do?
[23:42] Speaker 4: Like you're the therapist, You've got me to say a
[23:43] Speaker 4: lot of secrets here.
[23:45] Speaker 2: I was like, like, give me something to work with, Megan.
[23:52] Speaker 2: So she did.
[23:54] Speaker 5: Thank you to her. But I still have the notebook and.
[23:59] Speaker 3: You send me a page of that too.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Personal stuff. But it's not just this genius questions. I
[24:07] Speaker 2: love this.
[24:07] Speaker 4: I remember the questions now, but it was just question
[24:11] Speaker 4: people feel comfortable opening up.
[24:13] Speaker 5: To you and like they don't. I don't know, you
[24:16] Speaker 5: just want people to feel safe totally.
[24:19] Speaker 2: And I feel like, yes, it's great from an active
[24:21] Speaker 2: perspective of looking at p and ms and thinking like
[24:24] Speaker 2: I want to leave this impression because I want them
[24:27] Speaker 2: to like my house. But I also think it's amazing
[24:31] Speaker 2: for the p and ms to have to be able
[24:33] Speaker 2: to make the active feel loved and listen to and
[24:37] Speaker 2: heard because they want to leave a positive impression on
[24:40] Speaker 2: them and they can get into the house.
[24:41] Speaker 4: And they will stand If you really love someone, you
[24:44] Speaker 4: will stand up.
[24:45] Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, yeah, you fight for people that
[24:49] Speaker 2: you love you all right. This has been amazing, Like
[24:51] Speaker 2: I seriously feel like we could talk for hours, Like
[24:56] Speaker 2: I just want to pick your brain, Like literally, I'm
[24:58] Speaker 2: going to get your number and I'm I'd even call
[25:00] Speaker 2: you next year and be like, Gabby, can you talk
[25:03] Speaker 2: to blakesleep.
[25:06] Speaker 6: Like camp starts now at the beginning of the summer
[25:11] Speaker 6: three months and you show we're going.
[25:15] Speaker 2: To play a pickle. Thank you everybody for listening. This
[25:18] Speaker 2: is Dirty Rush and this has been trista and amazing.
[25:23] Speaker 2: I'm Gabby, You're amazing and everybody can listen to a
[25:28] Speaker 2: Dirty Rush podcast on Instagram and TikTok. Thank you for
[25:31] Speaker 2: listening okay,

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