# Dirty Rush: Moms Acting Crazy During Rush!

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 20 Jun 2026, 17 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
[0:04] Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia, Judice.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Davy Kent and Jennifer Fessler.
[0:12] Speaker 3: Hi, you guys, welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.
[0:15] Speaker 3: I am Jen Fessler, and today we're jumping into part
[0:18] Speaker 3: two of.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Moms Gone Wild.
[0:20] Speaker 3: So this time we're actually talking about moms in a
[0:23] Speaker 3: little bit of a different way. What lengths will moms
[0:25] Speaker 3: go to in order to get their daughter into the
[0:28] Speaker 3: top sorority. I'm a little scared of this episode, you guys.
[0:31] Speaker 3: I'm scared of thinking back and thinking what did I
[0:33] Speaker 3: do to try to help Rachel get into the right sororities?
[0:36] Speaker 2: So I just.
[0:37] Speaker 3: Remember Rush costing me a lot of money, too much money,
[0:41] Speaker 3: and not feeling like I could really say no to Rachel.
[0:44] Speaker 3: But she, you know, did not want the sorority that
[0:47] Speaker 3: I was in A five, so I didn't really there
[0:50] Speaker 3: was no strings I could pull there. But let's talk
[0:53] Speaker 3: to some girls who did have moms either pull strings
[0:57] Speaker 3: or maybe you know, do we're a little bit extra
[1:00] Speaker 3: in terms of helping their daughters get in to top sororities.
[1:03] Speaker 3: All right, let's bring in Page.
[1:06] Speaker 4: Hi High, Page, Hi, how are you.
[1:09] Speaker 2: I am very well. Thank you.
[1:10] Speaker 3: My middle name is Paige, and I I know I
[1:13] Speaker 3: wish it was my first name.
[1:14] Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's amazing.
[1:15] Speaker 2: Same page. Yes, thank you for joining us here a
[1:18] Speaker 2: dirty rush.
[1:19] Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for having me.
[1:21] Speaker 5: So my story is a little bit interesting. So I
[1:25] Speaker 5: was on a recruitment team for a school in Arizona,
[1:29] Speaker 5: and at this school, the moms definitely went a little
[1:32] Speaker 5: bit wild when it came time for their daughters to
[1:35] Speaker 5: go through recruitment. So we would often as recruitment team,
[1:39] Speaker 5: actually get gifts from the mom's for example, cookies, brownies, popsicles, stickers,
[1:46] Speaker 5: and not only were they just gifts, but the gifts
[1:49] Speaker 5: had their child's name and face printed on them. Come on,
[1:54] Speaker 5: so they would literally let's stout out the houses.
[1:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, crazy thing.
[2:00] Speaker 5: Ever, they would scout off the houses during work week,
[2:03] Speaker 5: like the week before rush, and whenever they had like
[2:05] Speaker 5: they thought like a split second to like if someone
[2:07] Speaker 5: were to be walking out, they would run out of
[2:10] Speaker 5: their cars with all of these gifts and be like,
[2:12] Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah, like my daughter kate Lee, for example,
[2:15] Speaker 5: is so excited to come see your house hopefully next week.
[2:18] Speaker 6: Like here's page.
[2:19] Speaker 2: I'm gonna puke a little bit in my mouth. Yea, yes,
[2:21] Speaker 2: did your mother do this? Because I'm gonna feel bad.
[2:23] Speaker 4: Talking absolutely not. My mother would never in a million years.
[2:26] Speaker 3: Okay, because I am going to throw up a little bit.
[2:28] Speaker 3: You're telling me this is a true story. Yeah, actually
[2:31] Speaker 3: try to give you gifts to yeah, grow under the
[2:34] Speaker 3: category of get a life.
[2:36] Speaker 7: Get a life please.
[2:37] Speaker 5: Yes, it was just like the craziest thing. Like it
[2:40] Speaker 5: wasn't even like the kids themselves. It was literally the
[2:42] Speaker 5: moms that were like just so excited and honestly like
[2:45] Speaker 5: not even like ashamed of it, which I thought was
[2:48] Speaker 5: the craziest thing ever. And then like as a recruitment team,
[2:51] Speaker 5: like we were not to be accepting these gifts like
[2:54] Speaker 5: at all, right, so we'd kind of like just take
[2:57] Speaker 5: it and then like literally throw it away.
[2:58] Speaker 4: And if anything, it was like weird, like we were not.
[3:02] Speaker 2: Like happy, uncomfortable. I mean, did blew into the way you.
[3:06] Speaker 3: Like looked at the recruits Like I think it.
[3:10] Speaker 5: Like kind of like subconsciously, yeah, because like your literal
[3:13] Speaker 5: mom is here trying to like buy us these two
[3:16] Speaker 5: dollars brownies and bunkcakes.
[3:18] Speaker 4: This is so so desperate.
[3:20] Speaker 2: Like awful craziest thing. Yeah, yeah, so funny.
[3:24] Speaker 3: When I talk to you guys, I always feel so
[3:26] Speaker 3: much better about my parenting.
[3:27] Speaker 4: Absolutely right.
[3:28] Speaker 2: I didn't give anyone.
[3:29] Speaker 3: I'd never gave anybody a gift, right, literally the weird
[3:32] Speaker 3: maybe teachers back in elementary school. I don't know, but yeah,
[3:36] Speaker 3: good Christmas. That's weird, and wha could.
[3:38] Speaker 4: Do so weird? Honest thing I've ever seen.
[3:41] Speaker 8: Did happen a lot, uh honestly, like more than you
[3:44] Speaker 8: would expect, like the vast majority Like no, but there
[3:49] Speaker 8: was definitely like a pretty big group of uh like
[3:52] Speaker 8: new members that were buying gifts and bringing.
[3:54] Speaker 2: I wonder if their daughters even knew about it.
[3:56] Speaker 4: That is, honestly probably not right.
[3:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know if I've ever told
[4:00] Speaker 3: daughter I was going to drop off a gift to
[4:03] Speaker 3: the recruitment chair. I can't even imagine.
[4:07] Speaker 7: No, I would.
[4:09] Speaker 4: Know that you're making this verse for.
[4:11] Speaker 3: Me, and also like have a little faith in me, mom,
[4:14] Speaker 3: like I don't bribe people like total me, then maybe
[4:17] Speaker 3: I don't belong there.
[4:18] Speaker 4: Totally craziest thing.
[4:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a really good story page. Thank you
[4:24] Speaker 3: so much for coming on.
[4:25] Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate it.
[4:27] Speaker 2: Love that name.
[4:28] Speaker 7: Thanks bye bye.
[4:44] Speaker 6: Hi Hi Sarah, Hi down. I'm a huge fan. I
[4:49] Speaker 6: love O vees.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's so nice.
[4:52] Speaker 6: Thank you so much, making queen, I loved you.
[4:55] Speaker 2: I didn't really work, but I tried, all right.
[4:59] Speaker 3: So, Sarah, you are an SMU girly.
[5:03] Speaker 2: Yes, I am as you are, all right.
[5:06] Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit about crazy moms at SMU.
[5:10] Speaker 2: What did they do?
[5:12] Speaker 9: Oh well, let me tell you. Majority of the girls'
[5:15] Speaker 9: moms got them what we call a rush coat.
[5:18] Speaker 3: Oh god, we did this. Yep, Sarah, we did a
[5:21] Speaker 3: whole episode in this. When we first started the pod,
[5:25] Speaker 3: it was well, I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut
[5:27] Speaker 3: you off. My opinion on it was was pretty harsh,
[5:29] Speaker 3: but please go on.
[5:31] Speaker 9: Well, basically, these moms would pay lots of money for
[5:34] Speaker 9: their daughters to get sort of trained on what to
[5:37] Speaker 9: say during SMU rush, which I don't know if you know,
[5:41] Speaker 9: is a really.
[5:43] Speaker 6: Really difficult experience.
[5:46] Speaker 9: Yeah, and these coaches would sort of train you on
[5:49] Speaker 9: what to say, what not to say, almost like these
[5:53] Speaker 9: girls were reading a script rather than you know, having
[5:56] Speaker 9: a genuine conversation. I want to say about you know,
[6:00] Speaker 9: fifty percent of the girls all got a rust coach.
[6:03] Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. We spoke to these coaches. They
[6:08] Speaker 3: charged thousands of dollars, thousands, not hundreds, thousands, right, Oh yeah.
[6:14] Speaker 3: And I felt kind of badly because, you know, speaking
[6:18] Speaker 3: to the actual coaches, they you know, they felt good
[6:21] Speaker 3: about what they were doing, as they should, and they
[6:23] Speaker 3: felt like it was almost like preparing for a job interview.
[6:26] Speaker 2: And they really helped these girls.
[6:29] Speaker 3: So, you know, I hate to be judge, but I
[6:31] Speaker 3: tend to be judge, So I don't know. I just
[6:33] Speaker 3: I would say, like if my kid asked me for
[6:35] Speaker 3: thousands of dollars for a rush coach, I think I
[6:38] Speaker 3: would say, well, I don't think rushing is for you
[6:40] Speaker 3: if you're if we're that desperate that we have to
[6:42] Speaker 3: spend thousands of dollars to get someone to tell us
[6:44] Speaker 3: what to say and what to wear, maybe not so
[6:46] Speaker 3: much exactly.
[6:47] Speaker 9: And you know, for the other fifty percent of the girls,
[6:50] Speaker 9: you know who didn't have a rush coach, I almost
[6:53] Speaker 9: felt like their experience was way more fun.
[6:56] Speaker 6: They met really people, they were a lot more open.
[6:58] Speaker 9: I feel like the idea of how the rush coach
[7:01] Speaker 9: was almost pressure, A.
[7:03] Speaker 6: Lot more pressure, for sure.
[7:05] Speaker 2: And could you tell you think like when someone had
[7:07] Speaker 2: a coach and when they didn't.
[7:08] Speaker 6: Oh for sure?
[7:10] Speaker 9: Really why just because it was, like like I said earlier,
[7:14] Speaker 9: it was almost like talking to someone who had like
[7:16] Speaker 9: a script in the back of their mind, right there
[7:19] Speaker 9: is going off you know what you know.
[7:21] Speaker 6: This brush coach told them to say, rather.
[7:23] Speaker 3: Than you know, having an actual conversation, right right, Wow,
[7:30] Speaker 3: listen again. I mean, I try in life not to
[7:33] Speaker 3: be judging, but I find myself in this context.
[7:36] Speaker 2: I just I spent thousands.
[7:39] Speaker 3: Of dollars for college tutors and essay t prep and
[7:43] Speaker 3: all of that, but it feels to me like there's
[7:48] Speaker 3: something that is just wrong about someone to tell your
[7:53] Speaker 3: kid how to act like right, and it's a little much.
[7:56] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we're on the same page with that. Definitely
[8:00] Speaker 2: that we are. Well.
[8:01] Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on and sharing with us, Sarah,
[8:05] Speaker 3: appreciate you, luck with everything, Thank.
[8:07] Speaker 7: You love.
[8:22] Speaker 2: All right, guys, So next we have Gemma.
[8:24] Speaker 6: Hi, Gemma, Hi, thank you so much for having me.
[8:27] Speaker 2: Thank you for coming to Dirty Rush.
[8:29] Speaker 1: Okay, so my story about Mom's Gone Wild doesn't have
[8:33] Speaker 1: to do with my own mom.
[8:34] Speaker 6: My mom is really not a helicopter parent.
[8:39] Speaker 1: She was pretty chill about grades and getting and she
[8:42] Speaker 1: just wanted me to go, like to the best school
[8:44] Speaker 1: that I wanted to get into. Was never intense intense, right,
[8:50] Speaker 1: but she was not And with the whole sorority thing.
[8:53] Speaker 1: She was in greek life, but she wasn't super pushy
[8:57] Speaker 1: about me being in greek life or not. Like my
[8:59] Speaker 1: sister dropped out of sorority sophomore year and she was
[9:01] Speaker 1: totally fine with it. Like she just always kind of
[9:03] Speaker 1: wanted us to do our own thing and be happy
[9:05] Speaker 1: with whatever her choices.
[9:07] Speaker 9: Was.
[9:07] Speaker 2: Love that.
[9:09] Speaker 1: But during college I tutored for this pretty well off
[9:14] Speaker 1: in elite LA family that had very high expectations and
[9:20] Speaker 1: the mom was definitely like manager of the house and
[9:24] Speaker 1: particularly was very invested in her daughter and her daughter
[9:28] Speaker 1: getting into certain.
[9:30] Speaker 6: Colleges, the best colleges she could get into.
[9:33] Speaker 2: You were tutoring this is while you were in college.
[9:35] Speaker 6: While I was in college. So I went to school in.
[9:37] Speaker 2: La Okay, so Okay got it, and.
[9:41] Speaker 1: I tutored her throughout her like high school year. So
[9:46] Speaker 1: I started when I was a freshman and she she
[9:49] Speaker 1: was a sophomore. So by the time I was a senior.
[9:52] Speaker 1: She was in her freshman year at USC Okay, and
[9:57] Speaker 1: this mom I tutored her throughout, like with writing, reading,
[10:02] Speaker 1: helped her with her college essays, like I any at
[10:07] Speaker 1: a moment's notice, my mom would call me and I
[10:09] Speaker 1: would hop on a zoom and help her daughter with anything.
[10:11] Speaker 1: I mean, they paid me a very pretty penny.
[10:13] Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I hope they paid you well, Okay.
[10:16] Speaker 6: Very well.
[10:16] Speaker 1: But I was pretty much on at their disposal all
[10:19] Speaker 1: the time. And then I was heavily involved in my
[10:23] Speaker 1: sorority and she she eventually got into USC, and I
[10:29] Speaker 1: was very heavily involved in recruitment at my school at
[10:32] Speaker 1: UCLA and she so I didn't have anything to do
[10:37] Speaker 1: with USC, but I coached her through her. Like the
[10:40] Speaker 1: next best thing after getting into college was that the
[10:42] Speaker 1: mom really wanted her daughter to get into a good sorority.
[10:44] Speaker 6: So she was like, do anything you can.
[10:47] Speaker 2: Was a daughter that into it or was it more
[10:49] Speaker 2: than mother?
[10:49] Speaker 1: I think like she definitely was. She definitely really wanted to,
[10:55] Speaker 1: especially at a school like USC where it's pretty high pressure.
[10:59] Speaker 6: And I think the social just social life at US.
[11:03] Speaker 1: I think it's just like at another tier, you've just
[11:06] Speaker 1: just like a lot of wealth, and there's a lot
[11:08] Speaker 1: like Greek life is very intense there.
[11:09] Speaker 6: They're very into their alumni.
[11:12] Speaker 1: And writ their sports and so it's just like at
[11:14] Speaker 1: another level that I don't think usc Are UCLA operates on.
[11:18] Speaker 8: Right.
[11:20] Speaker 1: So I think that she wanted it, but I think
[11:22] Speaker 1: the mom wanted it more. Okay, And she was like,
[11:27] Speaker 1: take her through zoom lessons, tell her what she needs
[11:29] Speaker 1: to say, what would get her into a sorority? What
[11:31] Speaker 1: is what does she need to have her Instagram? Look like,
[11:33] Speaker 1: what are the outfits? I'll pay whatever. We just want
[11:35] Speaker 1: to get this done.
[11:36] Speaker 2: I ask you.
[11:36] Speaker 3: You you don't have to, you don't have to tell us,
[11:38] Speaker 3: but I'm gonna ask anyway, Like what were you getting
[11:40] Speaker 3: paid an hour for this bullshit?
[11:42] Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal, but it was upwards it was
[11:44] Speaker 1: like more than anyone.
[11:46] Speaker 2: Makes, Like was it over fifty dollars an hour?
[11:49] Speaker 6: It was upwards of fifty dollars an hour.
[11:51] Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, I'll take that job if you know.
[11:55] Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was very nice as like a broke college.
[11:58] Speaker 2: Kid who no doubt.
[12:02] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[12:03] Speaker 1: So, and I grew very close with this family, very
[12:06] Speaker 1: close to the daughter, and I still am I didn't
[12:09] Speaker 1: like necessarily agree with the tactics there. I just think
[12:13] Speaker 1: like it's just very different from how I was raising,
[12:16] Speaker 1: how my mom operated, But there were different expectations there
[12:21] Speaker 1: and just a different Yeah I feel like caliber, yes,
[12:25] Speaker 1: but yeah, so I like coached her through or talked
[12:29] Speaker 1: to her through her rush experience each night.
[12:31] Speaker 6: We talk after each.
[12:32] Speaker 1: Round, and it ended up that at the end of it,
[12:37] Speaker 1: she didn't end up getting down to some houses that
[12:41] Speaker 1: she wanted, and I kind of had I had a
[12:46] Speaker 1: heavy role in my recruitment process.
[12:48] Speaker 2: No, no, I just know where this is going.
[12:50] Speaker 1: Okay that the mom kind of indirectly asked me if
[12:54] Speaker 1: there was anything that I could do to call over,
[12:58] Speaker 1: like just not sorority, not an other sorority, but in
[13:02] Speaker 1: my sorority at UCLA had a corresponding sorority at USC.
[13:06] Speaker 2: Right, and asked that I make a phone call.
[13:09] Speaker 6: Make a phone call, and that's all I'll say.
[13:11] Speaker 2: There, Well, you can't leave us hanging at that. Did
[13:14] Speaker 2: you do it?
[13:15] Speaker 6: I did, Paul, I did.
[13:17] Speaker 2: Okay, you don't tell us that she got in or not.
[13:19] Speaker 6: But mostly it was not about money or do it
[13:23] Speaker 6: it was.
[13:23] Speaker 1: It was mainly that I called them saying I know
[13:26] Speaker 1: this girl very well. I've worked with her now for
[13:28] Speaker 1: four years. She is kind, she is smart, and I
[13:32] Speaker 1: think that you made a mistake.
[13:34] Speaker 7: Did it help?
[13:35] Speaker 6: And it helped, That's all I'll say.
[13:39] Speaker 2: So I mean a few things about that.
[13:41] Speaker 3: First of all, I can feel the mother's pain, right
[13:46] Speaker 3: like you when your kid doesn't get into the house
[13:50] Speaker 3: that they want. And I do get that. But right
[13:52] Speaker 3: there's like a lesson in there, like you're not going
[13:54] Speaker 3: to always get what you want. And I know what
[13:58] Speaker 3: happens then, and you know, we haniwe's pull strings. But
[14:03] Speaker 3: was it that was it a difficult thing for you?
[14:05] Speaker 3: Did you try to say no? Are you like you
[14:07] Speaker 3: know what?
[14:07] Speaker 2: That's fine? I love her.
[14:09] Speaker 6: I definitely deliberated over it because, like.
[14:14] Speaker 1: I mean, like I just see how I went through
[14:17] Speaker 1: the rush process and not to be like all hi
[14:19] Speaker 1: and mighty, but I went through at fair and square.
[14:21] Speaker 1: I was someone who knew nobody California, Like I went
[14:25] Speaker 1: to CLA and I'm from the Midwest, Like I didn't
[14:28] Speaker 1: know a single soul, and I think that the rush
[14:30] Speaker 1: process worked out for me. So this seemed like this
[14:33] Speaker 1: is going kind of against nature. Like yes, I really
[14:37] Speaker 1: believe that like the process should work as it is supposed.
[14:41] Speaker 6: To without yeah, without intervention.
[14:45] Speaker 1: I was kind of like, I don't I don't know that, Like,
[14:47] Speaker 1: is she going to be happy if this, if these people,
[14:50] Speaker 1: if these girls didn't initially like the car that they
[14:53] Speaker 1: had or didn't like them enough to invite her back.
[14:55] Speaker 6: So that's what I told them, Like, I did say
[14:58] Speaker 6: that with the.
[14:58] Speaker 1: Mom and I had to have a really close way,
[15:00] Speaker 1: and I did say that to her and she was like,
[15:02] Speaker 1: I understand that, but don't you think that you know,
[15:05] Speaker 1: she should be in this story? And I was like, absolutely,
[15:07] Speaker 1: I think they're dumb to not bring her back, But
[15:09] Speaker 1: that was the decision that they made anyway. So I
[15:12] Speaker 1: just advocated on her behalf and it and it did help.
[15:17] Speaker 1: I think they were like we overlooked her.
[15:19] Speaker 2: And okay, but did she know that you were doing that?
[15:22] Speaker 6: The daughter does not know.
[15:24] Speaker 3: Now that's the part that's interesting. I mean, the whole
[15:27] Speaker 3: thing is it's an interesting story, But for me, at least,
[15:30] Speaker 3: the most interesting part is that the mother didn't tell
[15:33] Speaker 3: the daughter right and put you in a position of
[15:36] Speaker 3: doing that without, you know, telling this person that you
[15:40] Speaker 3: knew and cared about.
[15:42] Speaker 2: So that's a little bit.
[15:44] Speaker 3: That's the part that really just just would upset me,
[15:48] Speaker 3: is that you have to have a certain amount of
[15:51] Speaker 3: confidence in your kid, right and let them navigate. Also,
[15:55] Speaker 3: that's just part of going to college. And I, by
[15:58] Speaker 3: no means am I a perfect mother. But that's what
[15:59] Speaker 3: occurs to me when you're telling me the story, is
[16:02] Speaker 3: that I don't know that mother. It sounds like she's
[16:05] Speaker 3: just getting or was getting in her kid's way. Right,
[16:08] Speaker 3: I'd be able to detach a little.
[16:09] Speaker 6: Bit well, and I think at some point the other
[16:12] Speaker 6: shoe is going to drop.
[16:13] Speaker 3: But I just yeah, yeah, oh, I mean, listen, you can't.
[16:17] Speaker 3: I will tell you this, Like I, if it was
[16:20] Speaker 3: up to me, my kids would never feel pain. But
[16:22] Speaker 3: that's not realistic and that's not the world that we
[16:25] Speaker 3: live in, and I can't protect them from it. I
[16:27] Speaker 3: have to let them, you know, feel the pain and
[16:29] Speaker 3: grow from it. Maybe that kind of rejection it's okay,
[16:33] Speaker 3: you know, because we all will get rejected if it's
[16:35] Speaker 3: not you know, by a sorority, it's by a boyfriend
[16:39] Speaker 3: or a job or you know, all the different ways
[16:42] Speaker 3: that that people can tell us no, so anyway, But yeah,
[16:46] Speaker 3: but so I think they probably put you in a
[16:48] Speaker 3: weird position, but hopefully it all worked out and she
[16:51] Speaker 3: is happy and more importantly, you're happy.
[16:53] Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly happy now and I think that Yeah. I
[16:57] Speaker 6: just wish the best for them.
[16:59] Speaker 3: So good for you. Okay, Well, really appreciate your sharing
[17:03] Speaker 3: this with us.
[17:03] Speaker 6: Hey, thanks Jen, Bye bye bye bye.
[17:07] Speaker 2: All right, you guys.
[17:07] Speaker 3: So that is it for this episode of Dirty Rush.
[17:10] Speaker 3: Please make sure that you follow us on Instagram and
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[17:17] Speaker 2: Bye you guys.

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