# The Twot Seat: MARISSA HERMER AND ELIZABETH CHAMBERS

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 9 Sep 2026, 51 min.

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Nothing is off limits as Elizabeth and Marissa spill on divorce, dating younger men and relationship red flags. Plus, Teddi and Marissa discover they dated the SAME guy, and Marissa fills us in on the London Housewives. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
[0:09] Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
[0:10] Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of The Twat Seat with myself,
[0:13] Speaker 3: Teddy Mellencamp.
[0:14] Speaker 4: And Tamara Judge.
[0:16] Speaker 3: And we have two very special guests on today. The
[0:18] Speaker 3: first one is Elizabeth Chambers. She is the owner of
[0:23] Speaker 3: Bird Bakery and the host of the show Toxic on ID. HBO, Max,
[0:28] Speaker 3: and Hulu. A mom of two children divorced after being
[0:31] Speaker 3: married to Armie Hammer for 10 years.
[0:33] Speaker 4: Oh, scandal.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[0:36] Speaker 3: And now she's the new co-host of the podcast Dash.
[0:41] Speaker 4: We also have Marissa Hermer. Marissa Hermer is a divorced
[0:44] Speaker 4: mother of three children and three dogs, but you may
[0:47] Speaker 4: recognize her from the TV show Ladies of London. She
[0:51] Speaker 4: also owns a restaurant in Palm Springs and now a
[0:54] Speaker 4: co-host of her own podcast, The Dash. So Marissa and
[0:57] Speaker 4: Elizabeth started a podcast, I believe, in August, and it's
[1:01] Speaker 4: called The Dash, and we're going to talk to them
[1:02] Speaker 4: about it.
[1:03] Speaker 3: Perfect. Let's bring them in.
[1:05] Speaker 4: Hi, guys.
[1:07] Speaker 1: Hi.
[1:07] Speaker 3: How are you? I'm great.
[1:09] Speaker 1: Thanks for having us on. I'm so happy to see
[1:12] Speaker 1: you both.
[1:13] Speaker 4: We have never met, Elizabeth. Nice to meet you.
[1:16] Speaker 1: I feel like I just stalk you on the internet. Oh, really?
[1:19] Speaker 5: Oh, great.
[1:19] Speaker 1: I love it.
[1:20] Speaker 6: I love it.
[1:20] Speaker 3: Don't worry, we stalk you too. We have so much
[1:23] Speaker 3: to talk about.
[1:24] Speaker 4: First of all, congratulations on the new podcast, The Dash.
[1:28] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[1:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, Elizabeth, you were the one who asked Marissa to
[1:31] Speaker 4: do it with you. How did you guys become friends?
[1:35] Speaker 1: We've been friends for almost 10 years. We became friends
[1:38] Speaker 1: when Marissa literally was just like the most refreshing breath
[1:44] Speaker 1: of air ever. She was just like unapologetically herself. I
[1:48] Speaker 1: love her so much. I actually did low-key judge her
[1:51] Speaker 1: because she was so herself for a minute. And then
[1:54] Speaker 1: I was like, wait, actually, no, I've just been bored
[1:55] Speaker 1: with people in LA.
[1:56] Speaker 5: I also had a bottle of champagne at this point.
[1:59] Speaker 5: So I really liked it. I get more comfortable with myself,
[2:02] Speaker 5: the more.
[2:03] Speaker 6: And I think Elizabeth came in at like four glasses in.
[2:06] Speaker 5: So like I was real.
[2:08] Speaker 3: So you were at your best.
[2:10] Speaker 5: I was at my best.
[2:11] Speaker 1: I was at my best.
[2:13] Speaker 4: Elizabeth, did you watch her on ladies of London?
[2:15] Speaker 3: Do you know what?
[2:16] Speaker 1: I've never, I never did. And I, I did actually,
[2:21] Speaker 1: I told you, but I, but like recently I did
[2:23] Speaker 1: go back and watch an episode or two and I
[2:25] Speaker 1: was like, you're so likable. Like who's that likable on
[2:29] Speaker 1: reality TV? And it's just because that's her. And I
[2:33] Speaker 1: don't think you like let games get in your head. Like,
[2:36] Speaker 1: I don't know what happened the rest of the season,
[2:38] Speaker 1: but I was just like, that's my Morris.
[2:40] Speaker 4: Elizabeth, have you ever done a reality show?
[2:42] Speaker 1: Oh, I did. I did. Well, I wasn't supposed to be,
[2:45] Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like a docuseries about opening
[2:47] Speaker 1: bird bakery and Cayman islands. And that was supposed to
[2:50] Speaker 1: be that. And then it switched because the production company
[2:52] Speaker 1: left and that switched networks. And it became like a
[2:55] Speaker 1: thing where they were like casting people and it became
[2:57] Speaker 1: something totally different. But listen, I was in the Cayman
[3:00] Speaker 1: Islands and I know how to do two things in
[3:02] Speaker 1: this life. And that's restaurants and television. And I, that
[3:06] Speaker 1: was all I knew how to do there. And I
[3:08] Speaker 1: wanted to stay.
[3:09] Speaker 3: You're like going to make the most of this right now.
[3:11] Speaker 5: Totally.
[3:12] Speaker 1: Totally. I think it's tricky to manipulate, like to maneuver when,
[3:16] Speaker 1: you know, you're on that. Like, I don't know. I
[3:18] Speaker 1: just had, when I saw you, Marissa, I was like, how?
[3:21] Speaker 1: Is she just still her authentic self and so likable
[3:24] Speaker 1: on a reality show where people love drama?
[3:27] Speaker 3: Give me some tips, please. Tamara needs all the tips.
[3:32] Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't have any tips.
[3:36] Speaker 6: It was really when I did bump into drama, which
[3:39] Speaker 6: I did on a few occasions.
[3:41] Speaker 5: It like ripped my heart and soul out. Like I couldn't.
[3:44] Speaker 1: Sleep at night.
[3:45] Speaker 6: It was just, it was so challenging, but that's not
[3:48] Speaker 6: who I am naturally. But I think, I mean, I
[3:52] Speaker 6: just had, I just had Tracy over for dinner and
[3:55] Speaker 6: Juliet over for dinner.
[3:57] Speaker 5: Juliet said she just did your show.
[4:00] Speaker 1: Too.
[4:00] Speaker 5: So I had the two of them over for dinner,
[4:02] Speaker 5: a little like celebratory, you know, congratulations on your new shows.
[4:06] Speaker 6: And they are preparing for battle every day because I
[4:09] Speaker 6: think also when I did it, I hadn't really watched
[4:11] Speaker 6: a lot of reality television.
[4:12] Speaker 5: So I didn't know that's what I was supposed to do.
[4:15] Speaker 6: I think I actually was poor on reality television because
[4:20] Speaker 6: you need to really put on your battle battle armor
[4:23] Speaker 6: every day and go fight. That makes for interesting television.
[4:26] Speaker 6: So I'm glad there were some sort of fighter dramatic
[4:28] Speaker 6: women on my show.
[4:29] Speaker 5: Otherwise, it would have been a total flop. But, you know,
[4:32] Speaker 5: you do need to prepare.
[4:34] Speaker 6: For battle and be honesty and pick every fight and
[4:37] Speaker 6: create drama that you wouldn't really do, you know, maybe
[4:40] Speaker 6: around a normal dinner table.
[4:42] Speaker 5: And it's a lot of work. It's hard. You know,
[4:45] Speaker 5: I know Juliet, who has real friendships in that cast.
[4:49] Speaker 3: And then, like, Juliet A.
[4:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[4:53] Speaker 6: And then some of these friendships, you know, are totally grenaded.
[4:57] Speaker 6: And it's really challenging for her.
[4:59] Speaker 5: You know, it's a different... It's a lot. It takes
[5:02] Speaker 5: a lot.
[5:03] Speaker 4: Do you know anybody else on The Real Housewives of
[5:06] Speaker 4: London other than Juliet?
[5:08] Speaker 5: I know Amanda.
[5:09] Speaker 3: Oh, can you tell us a little bit about Amanda?
[5:13] Speaker 1: I don't.
[5:14] Speaker 5: Sorry.
[5:15] Speaker 6: I shouldn't say I know Amanda in the same breath
[5:17] Speaker 6: that I know Juliet.
[5:18] Speaker 3: Don't say you're her best friend. She'll chew your ass out.
[5:23] Speaker 6: I've met Amanda on a couple of occasions.
[5:26] Speaker 5: Juliet is a sister to me. You know, we have been.
[5:29] Speaker 6: when you do a reality show with someone, as you
[5:32] Speaker 6: both know, you go to the moon with someone. So
[5:34] Speaker 6: even if you fight, and I think it was season three, Julia,
[5:38] Speaker 6: between season two and three, we got into a, an
[5:41] Speaker 6: enormous fight.
[5:42] Speaker 5: We didn't speak for a couple of years.
[5:43] Speaker 6: Um, and it was heartbreaking for us and for our
[5:46] Speaker 6: families and for our, you know, real life friends. Um,
[5:51] Speaker 6: but then we obviously came back together because she is
[5:53] Speaker 6: a very dear friend. And, you know, she was over
[5:54] Speaker 6: at my house the other night when she was in town. Um,
[5:57] Speaker 6: I've heard of Amanda through Juliet often. So I, whilst
[6:02] Speaker 6: I've only met her on a couple of occasions, I.
[6:04] Speaker 5: Don't know her intimately.
[6:06] Speaker 6: I know her through Julia and they were real friends
[6:09] Speaker 6: in the pandemic. Like I remember hearing all about Amanda
[6:12] Speaker 6: and that she hosted like something for.
[6:14] Speaker 5: A man at our house and they were, they were
[6:16] Speaker 5: very close friends. So to see.
[6:18] Speaker 6: Some of the clips and to come out that that
[6:21] Speaker 6: wasn't the case was surprising. And let me tell you,
[6:24] Speaker 6: as a friend of Juliet, If someone called me out
[6:29] Speaker 6: on something, I would probably just be like, oh yeah,
[6:31] Speaker 6: you're right.
[6:32] Speaker 5: Like I'm not a confrontational person.
[6:35] Speaker 6: I wouldn't pull out the receipts or the text messages
[6:37] Speaker 6: or anything like that. Juliette will because she will make
[6:41] Speaker 6: sure she's like this.
[6:42] Speaker 3: She's got TV. No, she will. She will die on
[6:44] Speaker 3: the hill. She's got to be right. Or yeah.
[6:47] Speaker 5: So don't try and pull a fast one over Juliette.
[6:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:50] Speaker 4: Well, let's switch it over to your podcast. So tell
[6:52] Speaker 4: us about your podcast.
[6:53] Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot. Let's actually stay here. Why don't
[6:58] Speaker 1: we get London though? It doesn't come at the same time.
[7:02] Speaker 4: I asked one of the producers today, I said, are
[7:04] Speaker 4: we going to get London? And he said, we don't
[7:07] Speaker 4: know yet. So Bravo hasn't picked it up. So hopefully we,
[7:13] Speaker 4: we got, we got the first season, but I just
[7:15] Speaker 4: wish the first season.
[7:15] Speaker 3: But they would drop us two episodes at a time
[7:18] Speaker 3: a week.
[7:18] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[7:18] Speaker 1: Okay. Well I'm invested now.
[7:20] Speaker 3: I mean, go watch, go watch.
[7:22] Speaker 1: I needed exactly. Yeah.
[7:25] Speaker 5: We can talk about our podcast.
[7:27] Speaker 6: Basically what I'm talking about, like in one episode, which
[7:29] Speaker 6: it hasn't dropped yet, which I'm feeling right now is
[7:32] Speaker 6: how I swear I'm perimenopausal.
[7:35] Speaker 5: And I'm so hot right now. I need to like
[7:37] Speaker 5: take off my shirt. Like, I don't know.
[7:39] Speaker 1: She does take off her shirt. This is what we
[7:43] Speaker 1: love about Marissa. It's like she got really hot and
[7:47] Speaker 1: she's like, I just have to take my shirt off.
[7:48] Speaker 1: And listen, she does. I always say she has the
[7:50] Speaker 1: best boobs in Hollywood. Marissa has the best boobs in Hollywood.
[7:54] Speaker 5: Called Dr. Tidal Bomb you can have them too.
[7:56] Speaker 1: And nine out of ten Dr.
[7:58] Speaker 3: Titty Bomb what's his name Tidal Bomb I.
[8:01] Speaker 6: Call him Titty Bomb for sure like his nickname but
[8:03] Speaker 6: like his name is Dr.
[8:05] Speaker 1: Tidal Bomb but like don't we just love that girl
[8:08] Speaker 1: that does not gatekeep I just I think that is
[8:11] Speaker 1: everything that Marissa is and everything that our pod is
[8:14] Speaker 1: is that we don't gatekeep we're gonna put it all
[8:17] Speaker 1: out there um She actually calls Dr. Teitelbaum for like
[8:21] Speaker 1: flu symptoms of her children. I have to remind her like.
[8:23] Speaker 6: Your boob doctor is not like your GP. He always
[8:28] Speaker 6: picks up because I've sent so many people to him.
[8:30] Speaker 5: He has no boundaries.
[8:32] Speaker 6: He always gets back to me immediately.
[8:34] Speaker 1: He has no boundaries.
[8:35] Speaker 3: That's a good thing. That's a good thing about that. Well,
[8:37] Speaker 3: I also heard, I was listening to a clip from
[8:39] Speaker 3: your podcast and I was laughing so hard because I think, Elizabeth,
[8:44] Speaker 3: you were talking about how you went on a date
[8:46] Speaker 3: with somebody and you, as you're going inside their house,
[8:50] Speaker 3: you have to take your fake hair out and you
[8:53] Speaker 3: leave it on like a bush or something outside the house.
[8:57] Speaker 3: I mean, normally you.
[8:58] Speaker 1: Put it in your purse, but like it was small.
[9:01] Speaker 5: Small purse. I don't know. You know, that was.
[9:04] Speaker 1: A couple years ago when I first reentered society from
[9:07] Speaker 1: the Cayman.
[9:07] Speaker 5: Islands and I was worried.
[9:09] Speaker 1: And now I'm just like, you get the weave and
[9:12] Speaker 1: you get it all. Like, I'm not tossing the weave anymore.
[9:16] Speaker 4: Were you by any chance hiding out in the Cayman Islands?
[9:19] Speaker 1: No, not at all. It's just as great because I
[9:23] Speaker 1: think paparazzi is actually illegal there. I wasn't hiding it.
[9:26] Speaker 1: I was actually living my best, just most incredible life.
[9:31] Speaker 3: Which you deserve.
[9:32] Speaker 1: Yes, yes. It was magical. It was like you cocoon
[9:37] Speaker 1: after trauma and then you just become a butterfly. And
[9:40] Speaker 1: it was cocoon and butterfly all at the same time.
[9:42] Speaker 1: That's great. It was pretty magical. But I did, coming
[9:46] Speaker 1: back to LA... I don't know why I felt like
[9:49] Speaker 1: I couldn't have like two clip-in extensions in while I
[9:52] Speaker 1: was hooking up with a man. Now I'm like, they're
[9:58] Speaker 1: all in feeling. it. Yeah.
[10:01] Speaker 3: Enjoy it.
[10:02] Speaker 1: I do think tossing the weave is a great euphemism
[10:05] Speaker 1: for hooking up. And I think we should all integrate
[10:07] Speaker 1: that into our work. I love that.
[10:09] Speaker 3: I mean, imagine I have to do it and I
[10:10] Speaker 3: have no hair. So like somebody's over, I'm in a
[10:13] Speaker 3: full wig and then it's like, it's time for action.
[10:16] Speaker 3: And then it's like, hold on. This is what you
[10:21] Speaker 3: really got yourself into, buddy.
[10:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, but thankfully, Teddy, your bone structure.
[10:25] Speaker 4: Varies the way.
[10:27] Speaker 1: Like you have everything. I mean, that's like you still
[10:30] Speaker 1: are stunning.
[10:32] Speaker 3: Teddy, you can be bald and you're fine.
[10:35] Speaker 4: I think you're just right now going through that in-between
[10:37] Speaker 4: stage where it's not that short and not that long.
[10:40] Speaker 3: It's K plus eight.
[10:41] Speaker 4: That Kate Gosselin look.
[10:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. Now you just need some still look beautiful.
[10:45] Speaker 4: Now you guys have both been divorced for a couple
[10:47] Speaker 4: of years now. Would you give Teddy any advice to
[10:50] Speaker 4: navigate through her separation, co-parenting, dating?
[10:54] Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, I can say I'm not yet divorced.
[10:57] Speaker 5: I'm still going.
[10:58] Speaker 3: I was going to say, Marissa and I know each
[11:00] Speaker 3: other through our husbands.
[11:03] Speaker 5: Yeah. Can you call them husbands?
[11:06] Speaker 1: Are they?
[11:06] Speaker 6: All right.
[11:07] Speaker 3: Well, we, I call my estranged husband.
[11:11] Speaker 1: Formally known. Okay.
[11:12] Speaker 3: Because we're still married.
[11:14] Speaker 5: So it's... I could call it, yeah, estranged.
[11:16] Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't sound great.
[11:18] Speaker 1: No, I think, like, formal.
[11:20] Speaker 5: I mean, if it meant to be great, we're going
[11:22] Speaker 5: for it.
[11:23] Speaker 1: I don't think you should say, like, estranged. You're formerly...
[11:26] Speaker 1: They are part of your.
[11:28] Speaker 5: Formerly known as Marissa's husband.
[11:30] Speaker 3: Correct. There you go.
[11:32] Speaker 4: And what are you waiting for, Marissa? Is it just
[11:34] Speaker 4: taking a long time to divorce, or is it stalled?
[11:36] Speaker 5: Do you know what?
[11:38] Speaker 6: I wasn't... When we separated, there wasn't a sense of
[11:43] Speaker 6: urgency to get a divorce. I'm not looking to get
[11:46] Speaker 6: remarried immediately, maybe ever. I don't need to rush through this,
[11:52] Speaker 6: nor did my soon-to-be ex-husband. And then also, we have
[11:57] Speaker 6: three kids together, too. And life does happen, even though
[12:00] Speaker 6: you don't actually want it to.
[12:04] Speaker 5: And divorce is also.
[12:05] Speaker 6: a full-time job, which Teddy, you are probably finding out
[12:08] Speaker 6: as well with which Elizabeth is well aware of. And so,
[12:11] Speaker 6: and at the time we, Matt and I, you know,
[12:13] Speaker 6: we also were working together as well. So trying to do,
[12:18] Speaker 6: you know, I think we were even, yeah, we were
[12:19] Speaker 6: opening up a restaurant and it sort of just fell to.
[12:23] Speaker 5: The back burner for no reason.
[12:24] Speaker 6: Now it's full speed ahead and, you know, lawyers and
[12:28] Speaker 6: boring back and forth.
[12:29] Speaker 1: Like, I think it's so exhausting. And Teddy, you know,
[12:32] Speaker 1: this it's like, we want to be creating things and
[12:35] Speaker 1: building things, right? Like you want to be, have your
[12:38] Speaker 1: energy and your time go to upward momentum. And it's just,
[12:42] Speaker 1: it's so annoying. Yeah.
[12:44] Speaker 3: I know people with me are like, why, why haven't
[12:47] Speaker 3: you gone further into your divorce? Like, because before the
[12:51] Speaker 3: cancer stuff, like I was like pedal to the metal.
[12:54] Speaker 3: Like I was like, I don't care how much money
[12:55] Speaker 3: I spend. I'm done with this. And like, I was angry.
[12:59] Speaker 3: And then I got sick and then it was like,
[13:02] Speaker 3: everything was like, and they're like, she can't go to
[13:05] Speaker 3: court right now. She barely remembers what day it is.
[13:10] Speaker 3: Like this isn't happening. And so now everything's just taken
[13:14] Speaker 3: like a halt. And I'm like, you know, as long
[13:16] Speaker 3: as the halt and we're getting along, it's fine. I
[13:20] Speaker 3: just never want to feel like I'm in a situation
[13:24] Speaker 3: where I feel like stuck.
[13:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:27] Speaker 6: Totally. I'm in the exact, I'm in the exact same place, Teddy.
[13:30] Speaker 6: I mean, life happened to you. Life happened to me.
[13:35] Speaker 6: The divorce has taken longer. I do think it's, you know,
[13:39] Speaker 6: for both my soon to be exes, I don't know.
[13:44] Speaker 1: What to call them.
[13:44] Speaker 5: You have, do you have two mental? Yeah.
[13:47] Speaker 3: I was like, X is how many are you now?
[13:49] Speaker 3: We have another thing.
[13:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:52] Speaker 3: Let's start this rumor.
[13:53] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[13:54] Speaker 3: Marissa from Utah.
[13:57] Speaker 6: No, for his mental health, for my mental health, I
[14:00] Speaker 6: do think there is also, it will be good for
[14:04] Speaker 6: both of us.
[14:05] Speaker 5: To have this behind us.
[14:07] Speaker 6: I also do think there is a morning that will
[14:12] Speaker 6: come with that.
[14:13] Speaker 1: I don't know, Elizabeth, share this, but if you did.
[14:15] Speaker 6: Whenever that final paper, you know, whenever the divorce is final,
[14:20] Speaker 6: I believe that will also bring its own sense of
[14:23] Speaker 6: sadness and grief and mourning. And even though this is
[14:27] Speaker 6: something that I fought for and wanted, you know.
[14:30] Speaker 5: It is sad. Like this is not what I wanted actually.
[14:34] Speaker 6: When I signed up for this life and when I
[14:36] Speaker 6: chose Matt and my arc, like I didn't want this.
[14:39] Speaker 6: And so there, I'd like to have that morning behind
[14:42] Speaker 6: me soon so I can like continue on.
[14:44] Speaker 5: But It takes the time that it's taking right now.
[14:55] Speaker 3: Your divorce or your relationship became sensational. Like, everybody was
[15:00] Speaker 3: a part of it.
[15:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:02] Speaker 3: How did you find a way? Like, one, how long
[15:06] Speaker 3: did you know that was going on before you finally
[15:09] Speaker 3: were like, okay, breaks. I gotta hit the breaks. This
[15:13] Speaker 3: isn't for me. Or was it just one of those
[15:15] Speaker 3: things that was just one day?
[15:17] Speaker 1: No, and Marissa and I talk about this a lot
[15:18] Speaker 1: because she was so much further down the road in
[15:22] Speaker 1: terms of being like done with her marriage. And for me,
[15:26] Speaker 1: I was like so optimistic yet kept being presented with,
[15:31] Speaker 1: you know, circumstances that were not sustainable in a marriage
[15:35] Speaker 1: and that I wouldn't want my daughter to put up with.
[15:39] Speaker 1: So I think, again, like, you know, I'm from Texas.
[15:42] Speaker 1: My parents, I mean... I, Marissa always says she loves
[15:46] Speaker 1: the universe. I love Jesus. Like the last thing that
[15:48] Speaker 1: we want ever, anyone.
[15:51] Speaker 5: Is a divorce.
[15:51] Speaker 1: You don't go into this thinking it's going to end.
[15:56] Speaker 1: So Marissa was like so done. I'm sorry if I'm
[15:57] Speaker 1: like speaking on your behalf, but literally I do it
[15:59] Speaker 1: all the time. And so you can speak on my
[16:01] Speaker 1: behalf as well. But I think, you know, you get
[16:05] Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, okay, we're in therapy.
[16:07] Speaker 1: We're working with the best. I mean, we were working
[16:09] Speaker 1: with like Esther Perel. And I thought, If you're going
[16:12] Speaker 1: to do anything, do it to the most extreme of
[16:15] Speaker 1: your ability. Let's repair, um, everyone, you know, not everyone,
[16:19] Speaker 1: but there is such thing as an indiscretion. And then
[16:23] Speaker 1: you just realize, actually, this is not an indiscretion. This
[16:26] Speaker 1: is something that no matter what work we feel like
[16:29] Speaker 1: we're putting into it, um, may or may not persist.
[16:34] Speaker 1: And so that's the point that I just was like, um, listen,
[16:38] Speaker 1: I thought divorce was the worst thing in the world.
[16:40] Speaker 1: I thought ending, breaking up my family, which it ultimately is,
[16:43] Speaker 1: was like, actually, I will tell you guys this. This
[16:46] Speaker 1: is so crazy.
[16:47] Speaker 5: I remember, I.
[16:49] Speaker 1: Am a very prayerful person. I remember like praying on
[16:52] Speaker 1: my knees in my kitchen in the middle of the day, like,
[16:53] Speaker 1: thank you, God, for this day. Thank you for this life.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Thank you for my beautiful children. And I do think
[16:58] Speaker 1: that like divorce was actually my worst fear, which is
[17:02] Speaker 1: really interesting when you dive into something that is your
[17:04] Speaker 1: worst fear becoming A reality. It's almost like don't see
[17:08] Speaker 1: the trees. Don't see the trees when you're skiing and
[17:09] Speaker 1: like you hit a tree. I don't know. Like at
[17:11] Speaker 1: the end of the day, all you can do is
[17:13] Speaker 1: keep your side of the street clean and protect your children.
[17:17] Speaker 1: And that's ultimately all that matters.
[17:18] Speaker 3: So are you blindsided?
[17:20] Speaker 1: No. I mean, the first time, 100 percent.
[17:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[17:25] Speaker 1: 100 percent.
[17:25] Speaker 4: What do you mean the first time?
[17:27] Speaker 1: I mean, there was like, there, there was more than
[17:30] Speaker 1: one indiscretion. Yeah. And so I think like at the
[17:34] Speaker 1: end of the day, again, all that matters is children
[17:37] Speaker 1: and making sure that we don't traumatize our kids that
[17:41] Speaker 1: didn't ask to come into this world.
[17:42] Speaker 4: How old are your children now?
[17:44] Speaker 1: Mine are nine and 11 and.
[17:46] Speaker 4: They're amazing, but like fun ages.
[17:48] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[17:48] Speaker 1: It's so, they're like full people and just, they're, they're
[17:52] Speaker 1: everything that matters really like every, and that's the only
[17:55] Speaker 1: thing that the only guardrails we have with our pod
[17:57] Speaker 1: is like making sure that, you know, that we are
[18:00] Speaker 1: protecting them at all costs. But I do think to
[18:03] Speaker 1: answer your question earlier, Teddy, like with co-parenting and stuff,
[18:07] Speaker 1: I think all that matters is that they know they
[18:09] Speaker 1: have two parents that care about them and love them
[18:11] Speaker 1: so deeply. And yeah, is it ideal not to have everyone's,
[18:15] Speaker 1: your whole family under one roof? A hundred percent. Like
[18:18] Speaker 1: if they could wave a magic wand, if any divorced kids,
[18:20] Speaker 1: could wave a magic wand. I'm sure that's what they
[18:22] Speaker 1: would want.
[18:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:24] Speaker 4: How's your relationship with your ex?
[18:27] Speaker 5: I mean, we're cordial.
[18:28] Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I love the person
[18:32] Speaker 1: I married and people change. At the end of the day,
[18:35] Speaker 1: all we want them is to be there for their kids.
[18:37] Speaker 1: And that's all that matters. And that's what matters with Marissa.
[18:40] Speaker 1: And I had a conversation with a divorce friend this weekend.
[18:43] Speaker 1: And she's like, listen, at the end of the day, he's.
[18:48] Speaker 5: Her dad.
[18:48] Speaker 1: Like we don't get any daddy issues. So if they
[18:52] Speaker 1: can be there and present for their kids, then we're
[18:55] Speaker 1: going to support that a hundred percent. Yeah.
[18:57] Speaker 4: Right now, Marissa, you're dating a guy who you call spy.
[19:01] Speaker 5: The spy. Why?
[19:03] Speaker 4: How did you pick the code name?
[19:05] Speaker 5: It's so funny.
[19:06] Speaker 6: Elizabeth asked me about this the other day, and I
[19:07] Speaker 6: think I forgot the main point, how I chose the spy.
[19:11] Speaker 5: He came out of nowhere.
[19:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. He came out of Raya, bitch.
[19:19] Speaker 5: Sorry, never mind, never mind. I found him on the internet.
[19:24] Speaker 4: Can we make that a clip, please?
[19:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:25] Speaker 3: He came out of nowhere. He came out of Raya, bitch.
[19:28] Speaker 3: The fact that you could get on Raya and I
[19:31] Speaker 3: had to be slumming it on Hinge.
[19:34] Speaker 5: Why Raya?
[19:36] Speaker 6: By the way, apparently Hinge has more real connection.
[19:39] Speaker 3: Well, I have my real connection from Hinge and I
[19:42] Speaker 3: have a code name for him as well.
[19:44] Speaker 4: She's been calling her new guy, which drives me crazy,
[19:47] Speaker 4: Valley guy, which to me, just, I don't know. I
[19:50] Speaker 4: just don't want to date someone called Valley guy.
[19:52] Speaker 5: Well, does he live in the Valley? Nope.
[19:55] Speaker 3: So the day, the first, after the first date, I
[19:58] Speaker 3: couldn't remember where he told me he lived. And so
[20:02] Speaker 3: I was like, We're just going to say the Valley
[20:05] Speaker 3: because I don't know.
[20:06] Speaker 5: It's always safe.
[20:07] Speaker 6: It's like if you live in L.A., for sure the
[20:09] Speaker 6: Valley makes sense.
[20:10] Speaker 5: To all of us. It's like the big catch all.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Do we know where he lives now, Teddy?
[20:16] Speaker 3: Yes, we do. We do know where he lives.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Do we want to rebrand him?
[20:21] Speaker 3: He's now moved up to getting his name. She hard
[20:25] Speaker 3: launched his name today.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Oh.
[20:27] Speaker 4: I think only because the press figured it out.
[20:29] Speaker 3: It was only because the press figured out his name.
[20:31] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[20:36] Speaker 3: PJ PJ. Yeah.
[20:38] Speaker 4: I know we've been talking about him for months, but
[20:41] Speaker 4: Tamara's like, does he have a PJ?
[20:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. No. If he had PJ.
[20:50] Speaker 5: That would be his code name too.
[20:52] Speaker 3: I know, but then that would be so obnoxious.
[20:54] Speaker 4: So are you still dating a spy?
[20:57] Speaker 5: Yep.
[20:58] Speaker 6: I just saw the spy. I came in last night.
[21:01] Speaker 6: I saw him for a couple of nights. So the
[21:02] Speaker 6: reason why I did name him the spy, he didn't, look,
[21:05] Speaker 6: he didn't come out of nowhere. I did find him
[21:06] Speaker 6: on the internet, but he's, it's like he was sneaky undercover,
[21:12] Speaker 6: except he wasn't.
[21:13] Speaker 5: He was just being himself.
[21:14] Speaker 6: He's unlike any other guy I've ever dated or been
[21:18] Speaker 6: attracted to my entire life. He's like, he's not a narcissist.
[21:24] Speaker 6: He's not an asshole. He's not an egomaniac. He's not flashy.
[21:27] Speaker 5: He's none of those things. In fact, if anything, he's quieter,
[21:33] Speaker 5: like discreet, demure. And yeah, like I didn't see him coming.
[21:38] Speaker 4: That's how my husband is.
[21:39] Speaker 3: And it's refreshing.
[21:41] Speaker 5: Like a slow bird. And he kept showing up and being.
[21:44] Speaker 6: nice and sweet and smart and adorable and consistent. And like,
[21:50] Speaker 6: I'm not used to that. And so I, not that
[21:53] Speaker 6: I wasn't attracted to it in the beginning. In the past,
[21:57] Speaker 6: I've had these like crazy butterflies or like seen something
[22:00] Speaker 6: and being like, I want that or that. And this wasn't,
[22:03] Speaker 6: this was just like a slow, lovely burn that has
[22:08] Speaker 6: now become something real.
[22:10] Speaker 3: Has he met your kids?
[22:12] Speaker 6: Nice.
[22:12] Speaker 5: He met the kids.
[22:14] Speaker 3: Not the kids.
[22:15] Speaker 5: And the kids adore him.
[22:18] Speaker 6: And, you know, he's a divorced dad too.
[22:20] Speaker 5: So I like the divorced dad type is, again, I
[22:23] Speaker 5: didn't know who I wanted. I didn't really even want
[22:25] Speaker 5: to date anyone. I went on a lot of dates,
[22:27] Speaker 5: but I just thought that was something that I should do.
[22:29] Speaker 6: Not, I didn't actually want to like meet anyone because
[22:32] Speaker 6: also I'm very happy starfishing in bed at home by myself.
[22:36] Speaker 4: Starfishing.
[22:36] Speaker 3: Well, you know, one guy, I think we have a,
[22:39] Speaker 3: we've both gone on a date with the same guy
[22:41] Speaker 3: because I went on, I don't even remember his name.
[22:44] Speaker 3: It was so long ago, but I was like, we
[22:46] Speaker 3: have one mutual friend in common. It's Marissa Hermer. Then
[22:51] Speaker 3: I was like, how do you know Marissa Hermer?
[22:59] Speaker 1: I have to tell you guys more about the spy
[23:00] Speaker 1: for one second, because this is crazy. He was like
[23:02] Speaker 1: he I think he was in the CIA. And I'm like, girl,
[23:05] Speaker 1: I've seen his house in Aspen. It looks like the
[23:07] Speaker 1: cover of 80. I'm like, that man was not CIA.
[23:11] Speaker 1: I think he's like, BC is he actually I was
[23:16] Speaker 1: afraid that you were going to come home this weekend.
[23:17] Speaker 1: He was gonna be like, you guys have to stop
[23:18] Speaker 1: talking about me. I low-key thought that he was going
[23:20] Speaker 1: to say that or that you were going to be.
[23:23] Speaker 5: He's like a real person.
[23:24] Speaker 6: He's not going to listen to like, you know, reality
[23:27] Speaker 6: television podcasts and stuff like that.
[23:28] Speaker 3: You'd be surprised.
[23:31] Speaker 6: Please, in this episode that dropped this morning, I talk
[23:34] Speaker 6: about how I discovered a nipple hair.
[23:37] Speaker 5: Both of my nipples. And so I really don't want
[23:40] Speaker 5: him to listen to this. He was there. He saw
[23:44] Speaker 5: the fucking hair, Marissa. I moved everything around so quickly
[23:47] Speaker 5: that I don't know if he saw it.
[23:48] Speaker 3: Did you get the nipple hair?
[23:50] Speaker 4: I have one better. I have one better than that.
[23:54] Speaker 4: I was dating Eddie and he came up to me
[23:57] Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, is that a nipple hair? And
[24:00] Speaker 4: he plucked it.
[24:02] Speaker 5: No.
[24:03] Speaker 6: Yes. Well, yeah.
[24:05] Speaker 4: And I was mortified, embarrassed. I didn't even see it,
[24:08] Speaker 4: but I will say, I.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Know.
[24:11] Speaker 4: I was like, I had a lift and I had
[24:15] Speaker 4: my nipples made smaller. So they cut that hair right out.
[24:21] Speaker 1: It's not that deep. I'm like, well, it's that deep.
[24:23] Speaker 1: It's not that hard.
[24:24] Speaker 3: I'm like, it's very deep. Oh, Well, Alyssa, how come
[24:28] Speaker 3: they say that you rub in the cradle? Oh, yeah.
[24:32] Speaker 1: It's very weird. Like, it's very, I'm telling you, this
[24:34] Speaker 1: is very strange, you guys. I have only dated 23
[24:37] Speaker 1: to 25-year-olds, and it's not like a flat.
[24:41] Speaker 3: You're going younger than me.
[24:42] Speaker 5: They can't even grow facial hair. She's saying, you'll never
[24:46] Speaker 5: have a nipple hair.
[24:47] Speaker 1: 23. I don't, I think, you know, like it's, this
[24:53] Speaker 1: is not a flex or it's not like a, I don't,
[24:56] Speaker 1: I really would love to bring a psychologist on and
[24:59] Speaker 1: unpack it.
[25:01] Speaker 3: Your next pod.
[25:02] Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
[25:03] Speaker 1: And I do have some theories. I think like they
[25:05] Speaker 1: had one girlfriend in high school and they're like maybe
[25:07] Speaker 1: one college girlfriend where they got really good in bed.
[25:09] Speaker 1: And then Like, we were all crazy at 22 probably.
[25:14] Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, my God, you're so calm and
[25:17] Speaker 1: normal and confident. And then they're like, I'm going to
[25:21] Speaker 1: marry you. And you're like, no, like, that's so horrible.
[25:24] Speaker 1: That's not happening. And then I think it's just because, again,
[25:27] Speaker 1: and I'm not judging anyone, but like at that age
[25:31] Speaker 1: of their last girlfriend, we were all probably like a
[25:33] Speaker 1: lot more insecure and a lot more, you know, it
[25:36] Speaker 1: was just a different time. And so it's very calming
[25:38] Speaker 1: and comforting. when someone doesn't make drama out of nothing.
[25:43] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[25:43] Speaker 1: That's my tip of the iceberg.
[25:45] Speaker 3: Well, that's what my algorithm tells me too. Does your
[25:49] Speaker 3: algorithm talk to you about like knowing.
[25:51] Speaker 5: That you're dating?
[25:51] Speaker 1: I am the algorithm, Teddy.
[25:53] Speaker 2: Like my algorithm will be like, oh, so young guys
[25:57] Speaker 2: and blah, blah, blah. It's said that the best relationships
[26:02] Speaker 2: are with a guy is younger and they're dating an
[26:05] Speaker 2: older woman because an older woman feels safe to them.
[26:08] Speaker 1: I agree. And I also think there's something to be
[26:11] Speaker 1: discovered and explored with like the porn timeframe. I think
[26:14] Speaker 1: like 31 to 37, we're probably overexposed to porn. So
[26:19] Speaker 1: they're not really great in bed. Cause it's not a connection.
[26:22] Speaker 1: It's more of like a performance. Oh, 31 to 37
[26:27] Speaker 1: is not my jam.
[26:28] Speaker 3: So I met with 31.
[26:30] Speaker 1: Well, he may have just missed them. 31.
[26:32] Speaker 5: My guy is 31.
[26:33] Speaker 1: Yeah. JP.
[26:33] Speaker 5: Valley.
[26:38] Speaker 3: I've been dating the Valley. I mean, how long has
[26:42] Speaker 3: it been? Like three, four months? Four months?
[26:46] Speaker 1: Listen, I hope he was on the other side of
[26:47] Speaker 1: the porn problem because people who watch too much porn
[26:51] Speaker 1: are not good in bed. Like, they're lacking connection. And
[26:54] Speaker 1: I do think that certain time frame... was deep in it.
[26:59] Speaker 4: Teddy, you and Elizabeth are around the same age, right?
[27:01] Speaker 3: I mean, I'm probably older, but yes.
[27:04] Speaker 1: I think we're both 27.
[27:04] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[27:05] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[27:06] Speaker 1: Any other questions, Tamara?
[27:08] Speaker 4: I just Googled it. I didn't want to say it
[27:09] Speaker 4: out loud because some people don't like their age. So
[27:11] Speaker 4: you guys are basically like a year apart.
[27:12] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[27:13] Speaker 5: So I don't know.
[27:15] Speaker 4: I feel like, so my husband is five years, five
[27:18] Speaker 4: and a half years younger than me. And I'm okay
[27:21] Speaker 4: when we're in like the same decade. But when like,
[27:26] Speaker 4: I will be 60 one day and he's going to
[27:30] Speaker 4: be 55. I don't know. I don't, it's a little
[27:34] Speaker 4: bit of an insecurity when he was in his thirties,
[27:36] Speaker 4: I was in my forties. Like there's always this, as
[27:38] Speaker 4: long as we were both in our thirties, both in
[27:40] Speaker 4: our forties, I'm good with it.
[27:42] Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I mean, my ex was five
[27:44] Speaker 1: or four years younger and I was worried about that,
[27:46] Speaker 1: but also look around, like all the dads when they
[27:50] Speaker 1: turn 40, aren't hot and we're just getting hotter. I think,
[27:53] Speaker 1: I think everything has shifted. Like really?
[27:55] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[27:55] Speaker 1: We've never been hotter. And if you think about Diane Keaton,
[27:59] Speaker 1: I think she, and someone fact checked me, but I
[28:02] Speaker 1: think she played like father and father of the bride.
[28:04] Speaker 1: And she was the mom at like 42. Right. So
[28:08] Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway had just, is having a baby. Natalie Portman,
[28:11] Speaker 1: all of our Queens look like amazing, killing their careers
[28:17] Speaker 1: and getting everything they want. So actually I'm throwing a
[28:19] Speaker 1: flag on all that bullshit. And you need to get
[28:21] Speaker 1: out of your head about that because like, we've never
[28:23] Speaker 1: been hotter and happier and healthier and, And, like, they
[28:26] Speaker 1: still get dad bods.
[28:28] Speaker 3: And also, sometimes, I don't know, maybe the spy is
[28:31] Speaker 3: not this way, Marissa, but, like, what I realized on
[28:34] Speaker 3: my online dating excursions prior was the older gentlemen that
[28:40] Speaker 3: had money and, like, all that stuff were very, like,
[28:44] Speaker 3: kind of, like, set in their ways already. Yeah. And
[28:47] Speaker 3: I was like, you know what? That's not for me.
[28:49] Speaker 3: I don't want, like, I'm already set in my own ways. Like,
[28:52] Speaker 3: I want someone that's going to help me explore, learn
[28:54] Speaker 3: something new, go do something I probably wouldn't have said
[28:57] Speaker 3: yes to before. Like, I don't want someone that's like, well, I,
[29:01] Speaker 3: you know what? I eat dinner at six o'clock every
[29:03] Speaker 3: night and that's how it is.
[29:05] Speaker 4: That's how I like it.
[29:06] Speaker 5: We don't want to be a purse.
[29:07] Speaker 4: I like to, I like a schedule.
[29:09] Speaker 3: I like being married.
[29:13] Speaker 5: I'm not, um, the spy is older than me. He's
[29:16] Speaker 5: not set in his ways. He's super happy to adventure
[29:20] Speaker 5: and try new things. It's interesting.
[29:22] Speaker 6: I actually want the routine now. I'm the one who's
[29:26] Speaker 6: really shifted. I want to go to bed earlier.
[29:30] Speaker 5: And have quiet routine.
[29:32] Speaker 6: And maybe it's because you know, trauma of divorce and
[29:37] Speaker 6: getting through, you know, making the hard decisions to complete
[29:42] Speaker 6: a marriage. Now I just want peace and chill and equality.
[29:47] Speaker 6: Like shoot me dead before I ever go to Burning
[29:49] Speaker 6: Man again.
[29:50] Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean?
[29:51] Speaker 3: The fact that you just said again after I just
[29:53] Speaker 3: watched all this Bethany Frankel content. I can't believe.
[29:57] Speaker 4: I've had so many comments about Burning Man lately. Like
[29:59] Speaker 4: I would never go.
[30:01] Speaker 3: But Marissa, I think.
[30:02] Speaker 1: You say that because it's long distance. Like you'll still
[30:04] Speaker 1: come dance on a table with me. Totally.
[30:06] Speaker 5: I'm in like the ideal.
[30:07] Speaker 3: Well, that's okay. But Burning Man, no.
[30:10] Speaker 5: The dust and the dirt.
[30:11] Speaker 1: I mean, even Diplo said he walked 15 miles to
[30:13] Speaker 1: get out of Burning Man.
[30:24] Speaker 4: I think it was worse this year than it was
[30:26] Speaker 4: last year, right?
[30:27] Speaker 1: Just from the pictures.
[30:28] Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my, no, thank you.
[30:29] Speaker 3: So if you guys want to go deep down a
[30:31] Speaker 3: rabbit hole, go down the Bethany Frankel at Burning Man
[30:34] Speaker 3: rabbit hole.
[30:35] Speaker 5: It's also not appealing.
[30:37] Speaker 6: Like, I don't want to be, sorry, but I don't
[30:39] Speaker 6: want to be watching 25-year-old gorgeous bodies, even though, yes,
[30:43] Speaker 6: we identify I'm also 25.
[30:45] Speaker 5: But like, I'm not. I've had three children. Yeah.
[30:47] Speaker 1: Dr.
[30:47] Speaker 5: Teitelbaum's help.
[30:49] Speaker 6: I don't want to be dancing next to like 25-year-old
[30:52] Speaker 6: naked women.
[30:52] Speaker 1: I don't. I think you would, like, in Saint-Tropez.
[30:56] Speaker 5: Well, everything's different there.
[30:57] Speaker 1: Yes.
[30:58] Speaker 3: I think there's a difference between Saint-Tropez and then, like,
[31:01] Speaker 3: being all dressed up out of your mind.
[31:05] Speaker 1: Totally.
[31:06] Speaker 3: Like, wearing sparkly silver seven-inch, like, platforms.
[31:11] Speaker 1: No. Like, we can check that off the list.
[31:14] Speaker 4: And there's, like, a wide age range that goes to
[31:16] Speaker 4: Burning Man.
[31:17] Speaker 3: It's crazy.
[31:18] Speaker 1: I know. We should do, like, a psychological evaluation of, like,
[31:21] Speaker 1: the profile. Because it is enticing at one point in
[31:25] Speaker 1: your life. But I do think that your long distance
[31:28] Speaker 1: relationship helps longevity.
[31:30] Speaker 5: Totally.
[31:31] Speaker 6: It's like incredibly passionate when we see each other. And
[31:34] Speaker 6: you get to be super present. I love it because
[31:36] Speaker 6: I'm able to like really switch off for a few days.
[31:38] Speaker 6: Sorry for all the text messages. I didn't respond to Elizabeth.
[31:41] Speaker 6: but like, I do all that.
[31:43] Speaker 1: And then I get like her daily screen time is
[31:47] Speaker 1: maybe an hour. I'm like, hello. I am never not
[31:51] Speaker 1: on my phone. And I'm like, she's, she's happiest disconnected,
[31:56] Speaker 1: which is a free bird.
[31:58] Speaker 5: It's really nice.
[31:59] Speaker 6: But then I come back to my real life. Like
[32:01] Speaker 6: this morning, I'm back online. I was out of school
[32:03] Speaker 6: orientation for a few hours down here. It's like, I
[32:06] Speaker 6: actually was at– wait, Elizabeth, I don't think we've spoken
[32:09] Speaker 6: about that.
[32:09] Speaker 5: But now that we're talking about Burning Man, you guys,
[32:11] Speaker 5: this is a new stage in my life.
[32:13] Speaker 1: Oh, no. A Vespa?
[32:14] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[32:15] Speaker 1: What?
[32:15] Speaker 4: Is that a disco ball helmet? Okay, so this is–
[32:19] Speaker 4: What are you writing when you have that on your head?
[32:21] Speaker 5: By the way, I actually just had this on my
[32:23] Speaker 5: desk right now. This is not as a prop for
[32:25] Speaker 5: a podcast to, like, have a conversation about.
[32:28] Speaker 3: I was thinking– oh, some of the– I was going
[32:30] Speaker 3: to say, is that a chip? Did you fall?
[32:32] Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, must have. I must have.
[32:37] Speaker 1: Where are you wearing this?
[32:39] Speaker 5: I think you guys, I'm getting rid of it.
[32:41] Speaker 6: I was actually thinking like, I have so many like
[32:43] Speaker 6: sparkly sequin outfits, like feather thing.
[32:46] Speaker 5: I've got a whole closet of like a, a costume,
[32:50] Speaker 5: you know, warehouse. I think I'm ready.
[32:52] Speaker 6: I was going to say, Elizabeth, like your offer up guy,
[32:54] Speaker 6: like you sold some, like you met bow tie through
[32:57] Speaker 6: offer up. I'm going to sell all of my Burning
[33:00] Speaker 6: Man things. Cause this stage of my life is over.
[33:03] Speaker 3: I mean, when was the last time that you went
[33:05] Speaker 3: to Burning Man?
[33:06] Speaker 5: 2019. I don't think it's going to happen, so I
[33:09] Speaker 5: can get rid of this helmet.
[33:11] Speaker 1: Listen, you're shocking up with a spy at his AD house,
[33:14] Speaker 1: and he's 112. Like, obviously. Not 112.
[33:17] Speaker 3: How old is he actually, Marissa?
[33:18] Speaker 4: Now you just need to get a Vespa.
[33:21] Speaker 6: I know.
[33:21] Speaker 4: He's 62.
[33:33] Speaker 5: No, you got, he's, he's civilized. It's wonderful.
[33:36] Speaker 6: It's like very nice and comforting and sweet.
[33:41] Speaker 3: Does he have gray bald? Does he have gray bald hair?
[33:45] Speaker 3: Oh my God, Teddy.
[33:47] Speaker 5: No.
[33:51] Speaker 3: No, thank you.
[33:52] Speaker 1: Okay.
[33:52] Speaker 4: Elizabeth and Teddy are so much alike.
[33:55] Speaker 3: And then me and Marissa are like, God, no.
[33:57] Speaker 4: What are you talking about? My face gets that close
[34:01] Speaker 4: to his balls.
[34:03] Speaker 1: Yes. We had our episode this week of the dash
[34:09] Speaker 1: is only 36 minutes. I'm telling them this like top level.
[34:15] Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
[34:15] Speaker 1: A part where Marissa took a special class about skills.
[34:21] Speaker 5: Okay. I can, let me say what I'm going to say.
[34:24] Speaker 4: Blow job skills.
[34:26] Speaker 5: So. I'm going to cut some stuff because.
[34:29] Speaker 4: I'll take that as a yes.
[34:31] Speaker 5: Some of the things... We have lines. We learn where
[34:35] Speaker 5: the line is.
[34:36] Speaker 6: And this is episode three that dropped this morning. And
[34:39] Speaker 6: I hadn't quite figured out where the line was. And
[34:41] Speaker 6: I'm just talking, which we do. We end up having
[34:43] Speaker 6: just a normal conversation. And I'm like, I got to
[34:45] Speaker 6: re-edit some of these things because if the option.
[34:47] Speaker 5: You know, this podcast is not for kids. This is explicit.
[34:51] Speaker 5: do not watch it. If you, you know, don't listen
[34:53] Speaker 5: to it on the.
[34:54] Speaker 6: Way when you're dropping your kids off to school, listen
[34:57] Speaker 6: to it on the way home afterwards. And if you
[34:59] Speaker 6: want to like have a giggle, yes. But I went
[35:02] Speaker 6: into too much detail. I'm like, this is not appropriate,
[35:05] Speaker 6: but post separation, I, you know, I hadn't been.
[35:10] Speaker 5: Out in the wild in a long time, like a
[35:13] Speaker 5: hundred years.
[35:15] Speaker 6: And the idea of like kissing another man or like, I,
[35:20] Speaker 6: I need, I was like, you know, whatever.
[35:22] Speaker 5: I'm an academic. So I went to intimacy school and wait, wait,
[35:27] Speaker 5: there's a school.
[35:28] Speaker 1: There's a master.
[35:32] Speaker 3: Maybe I need to do that.
[35:33] Speaker 4: Can you pass on that information?
[35:35] Speaker 5: I'll text you her name. Her name is BB.
[35:37] Speaker 6: She's an intimacy expert and she, I was actually, I
[35:43] Speaker 6: couldn't get my head around the idea that I was
[35:46] Speaker 6: actually going to be intimate with someone else again or anyone.
[35:49] Speaker 6: And whilst it wasn't something that I was like gagging
[35:53] Speaker 6: to do, I shouldn't use that term.
[35:55] Speaker 1: Gagging?
[35:55] Speaker 4: Gagging.
[35:56] Speaker 3: Good choice of words. Seems like you were.
[36:00] Speaker 4: Maybe you're hoping to gag.
[36:01] Speaker 3: Nobody wants a micro penis. I mean, you're going to
[36:03] Speaker 3: a blowjob class.
[36:07] Speaker 1: You just gagged yourself into that one.
[36:11] Speaker 5: I wanted to know all of the information. So I
[36:13] Speaker 5: went to intimacy school.
[36:15] Speaker 3: Did you learn a lot? Do you think you got
[36:16] Speaker 3: any good? Is there anything you need to pass on
[36:18] Speaker 3: to us?
[36:19] Speaker 1: That was the reason we cut 30 minutes out.
[36:23] Speaker 5: I was valedictorian. Oh, really?
[36:25] Speaker 3: Oh, valedictorian. Were you the only one in the class?
[36:33] Speaker 3: Oh my God.
[36:34] Speaker 4: I need to tune into that podcast.
[36:37] Speaker 1: We'll send you the link. Yeah.
[36:40] Speaker 4: Have either one of you been approached to join housewives?
[36:46] Speaker 6: When I first moved to LA 100,000 years ago, I
[36:51] Speaker 6: had a couple of meetings with.
[36:52] Speaker 5: Them, but no.
[36:54] Speaker 3: Would you do it?
[36:57] Speaker 6: I said this to Juliet the other day, or maybe
[36:59] Speaker 6: I did this, um, or to Tracy, um, Never say never,
[37:03] Speaker 6: because if we've learned anything in this life, we absolutely
[37:06] Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow
[37:08] Speaker 6: or where the turns of life will take me.
[37:12] Speaker 5: That said, I'm just.
[37:14] Speaker 6: Coming out of about a year and a half or
[37:17] Speaker 6: two years of total cocooning and not by for want,
[37:24] Speaker 6: but like my body, I was diagnosed with PTSD about
[37:27] Speaker 6: a year ago. I like just completely shut down. And
[37:31] Speaker 6: I wasn't depressed. I was just couldn't I couldn't take
[37:35] Speaker 6: on that much. All I could take on was being
[37:37] Speaker 6: a mother to my children, which was the priority and
[37:41] Speaker 6: is the priority. And so socially, I was not going out.
[37:46] Speaker 6: I was you know, my activity was maybe walking down
[37:49] Speaker 6: the street. So the idea of having a conversation or
[37:53] Speaker 6: even entertaining doing the housewives, which we've just said is
[37:57] Speaker 6: like you have to put on.
[37:57] Speaker 5: Your armor every day for that. I'm like, I feel
[38:00] Speaker 5: like I was putting on my armor every day just
[38:02] Speaker 5: to like do the school.
[38:03] Speaker 2: Survive.
[38:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[38:04] Speaker 6: I was in survival mode and I'm coming out of
[38:07] Speaker 6: it now, which is, by the way, feels awesome and
[38:09] Speaker 6: actually really exciting.
[38:11] Speaker 5: But I wouldn't I wouldn't.
[38:14] Speaker 6: I couldn't take that on right now, but maybe at
[38:16] Speaker 6: some point, like, are we crazy enough?
[38:17] Speaker 5: Yes, we are. We're, we're all, yes, probably, you know,
[38:20] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[38:21] Speaker 3: What is, has Tracy, you're talking about Tracy Tudor, correct?
[38:24] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[38:26] Speaker 3: Has she shared anything with you about Beverly Hills this year?
[38:29] Speaker 5: She hasn't.
[38:29] Speaker 6: I mean, she was over for dinner. They only just
[38:32] Speaker 6: started filming a couple of weeks ago.
[38:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[38:37] Speaker 6: So I think she had her first group event, maybe
[38:40] Speaker 6: at Rachel Zoe's party. And she said it was fun,
[38:43] Speaker 6: but there were already some like, you know, drama.
[38:46] Speaker 4: There was already such a pro at reality TV. She's
[38:49] Speaker 4: going to fit in so well. I'm so excited for her.
[38:54] Speaker 3: I love her.
[38:55] Speaker 1: She's the best.
[38:56] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[38:57] Speaker 6: It's going to just make it so watchable. And she's, yeah,
[38:59] Speaker 6: it's like a duck to water.
[39:01] Speaker 4: I mean, after coming off some pretty kind of boring seasons,
[39:04] Speaker 4: I think that Tracy's exactly what they need.
[39:13] Speaker 3: Elizabeth, can you tell us a little bit more about
[39:15] Speaker 3: your crime show? Because I was obsessed with it.
[39:18] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[39:18] Speaker 3: And is it coming back?
[39:20] Speaker 1: Yes, it is back on September 15th. We are, I think,
[39:24] Speaker 1: eight days away from it, nine days away from it.
[39:27] Speaker 1: We have season two coming out, which is incredible. And listen,
[39:31] Speaker 1: this is my dream show, my life's work, right? I mean,
[39:37] Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all we want to
[39:39] Speaker 1: do is be in healthy and happy relationships. And we
[39:42] Speaker 1: were never told the red signs, the red flags to
[39:45] Speaker 1: look out for, right? Like we were actually quite messaged
[39:48] Speaker 1: the opposite of like a Disney princess, wait for someone
[39:51] Speaker 1: to rescue you or, you know, 17 magazine, learn to
[39:54] Speaker 1: give the best blow job. So he puts a ring
[39:55] Speaker 1: on it. Like, why were we told that that was
[39:57] Speaker 1: the goal? And so I just, our episodes this season
[40:02] Speaker 1: are leveled up in every way. I mean, we really
[40:05] Speaker 1: address some interesting things as whether you're divorced or married, like,
[40:09] Speaker 1: you know, there's something called parental alienation. where you manipulate children.
[40:14] Speaker 5: Exactly.
[40:15] Speaker 3: I've gone through that. Yeah.
[40:16] Speaker 1: And then, I mean, there's just so many themes this
[40:19] Speaker 1: season where just when I had thought I'd seen it
[40:22] Speaker 1: all in season one, season two is completely elevated and
[40:27] Speaker 1: escalated in every way. And I cannot wait for you
[40:29] Speaker 1: to watch it because it's just like so relatable, right?
[40:34] Speaker 4: Where can we watch it?
[40:35] Speaker 1: You can watch it on Hulu and HBO Max. It's
[40:37] Speaker 1: on Investigation Discovery every Monday night. And then it will
[40:41] Speaker 1: stream on HBO Max and Hulu.
[40:43] Speaker 3: I think the coolest part is like you're like boots
[40:45] Speaker 3: on the ground. You're not like a lot of these
[40:48] Speaker 3: shows now we're seeing where like somebody is like off
[40:51] Speaker 3: and in a different location and they're just essentially podcasting
[40:55] Speaker 3: what is happening. No, you're like there. You're like staked
[40:59] Speaker 3: out in the car.
[41:00] Speaker 4: Oh, really?
[41:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not like I'm not just coming in to
[41:03] Speaker 1: sit in the chair for an interview. I mean, we
[41:05] Speaker 1: are solving mysteries. And I think what's really interesting, as
[41:08] Speaker 1: opposed to some– cold cases that are true crime, is that, like,
[41:13] Speaker 1: our audience can follow along to see, is she going
[41:15] Speaker 1: to go back to him? Is she going to choose
[41:17] Speaker 1: someone just like him, this man that almost murdered her?
[41:20] Speaker 1: You know, and it is, we have, we found, I
[41:24] Speaker 1: don't know if you saw Bad Vegan on Netflix. Oh, yeah. But, like, really,
[41:29] Speaker 1: Sarma was implicated. She wouldn't have thrown away her entire
[41:33] Speaker 1: restaurant and her entire career. She was really implicated and
[41:37] Speaker 1: served time at Riker's. for, you know, his bad wrongdoings.
[41:42] Speaker 1: And he had been on the run and owed the
[41:44] Speaker 1: IRS $ 20 million. And we tracked him down and found him.
[41:47] Speaker 1: And I confronted him.
[41:49] Speaker 3: Oh my God.
[41:50] Speaker 4: So I can watch season one on Hulu?
[41:52] Speaker 1: Yes, please catch up. I mean, it's called Toxic. And
[41:58] Speaker 1: it's like my absolute baby and passion, other than my
[42:02] Speaker 1: kids and my bakery, like the reason I live and breathe.
[42:05] Speaker 1: It's such, it's just like, it's applicable to everyone.
[42:10] Speaker 3: Do you guys watch any reality television?
[42:13] Speaker 5: I watched my.
[42:14] Speaker 1: First reality television show this year. I got into Love
[42:17] Speaker 1: Island because my friend was on it.
[42:19] Speaker 3: Who was your friend?
[42:20] Speaker 1: My friend Bryce. I've known him forever.
[42:23] Speaker 4: Hold on.
[42:23] Speaker 3: Bryce is right up our alley.
[42:25] Speaker 6: It looks like Teddy's just seen like the second coming
[42:28] Speaker 6: of Jesus.
[42:31] Speaker 4: I am not watching love Island.
[42:36] Speaker 3: No, I love Bryce.
[42:38] Speaker 1: I am like Barry. I'm not, I don't ever have
[42:41] Speaker 1: any time during, I'm like watching true crime and tracking
[42:45] Speaker 1: down people, bad people. Like that's how I spend my
[42:48] Speaker 1: free time. But I will say something, and again, I've
[42:51] Speaker 1: never watched reality TV until this. I only watched eight
[42:55] Speaker 1: episodes because, Teddy, I thought I was going to be
[42:57] Speaker 1: finished at eight. I was like, whew, that was a lot.
[43:01] Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's every night.
[43:02] Speaker 1: 9,000 more. I'm like, I am not committed.
[43:05] Speaker 3: That's why I can't do it.
[43:06] Speaker 1: Same.
[43:06] Speaker 3: It's every night. But the fact that I didn't know
[43:09] Speaker 3: that the reunion was about to be on, I was enraged. Like, my—
[43:13] Speaker 3: 13 year old daughter's like mom you don't even seem
[43:16] Speaker 3: ready to be watching the reunion I'm like what.
[43:17] Speaker 1: Do you mean the reunion she's like it's on tonight
[43:20] Speaker 1: and I was like she's like what does your ready
[43:22] Speaker 1: entail like Teddy doesn't warm.
[43:24] Speaker 5: Up before any reunion sorry because I don't watch Love
[43:28] Speaker 5: Island because I'm an adult.
[43:30] Speaker 4: Same Marissa same.
[43:34] Speaker 5: It's on every night for an hour?
[43:36] Speaker 3: It's on every night. And then there's one thing that's
[43:39] Speaker 3: called like after the sun. So one night a week
[43:42] Speaker 3: you get after the sun, which I never watch. It's
[43:44] Speaker 3: like once you've gotten booted out, then you go back
[43:47] Speaker 3: and you do an interview. But I'm like, I don't care.
[43:49] Speaker 1: They're gone.
[43:49] Speaker 3: They're out of the relationship. Is it one hour every night?
[43:52] Speaker 1: Yes.
[43:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, but like if you go back, I didn't watch.
[43:55] Speaker 1: It in real time. So if you're like binging it,
[43:58] Speaker 1: you're up until 4 a.m. like a crackhead. And your
[44:01] Speaker 1: kids need to be woken up at six. And you're like,
[44:03] Speaker 1: this is unreasonable.
[44:04] Speaker 4: I do know some of these people come out of
[44:09] Speaker 4: it like being big stars. I was on Traitors with.
[44:18] Speaker 3: Ekansu.
[44:20] Speaker 4: I think she was on Love Island, like the very beginning,
[44:22] Speaker 4: the very first one. And she had like 4 million followers.
[44:25] Speaker 4: First time she's ever on TV. Like what the actual fuck?
[44:29] Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, people are very invested. It's interesting
[44:31] Speaker 1: to watch the dynamic. I get, I like watching it
[44:33] Speaker 1: for like, whatever. I pretend like I'm doing research or
[44:36] Speaker 1: some shit. I like watching it for some toxicity, but
[44:39] Speaker 1: it is interesting to see like people bring their own,
[44:43] Speaker 1: you know, their own trauma and their own stuff to relationships.
[44:46] Speaker 1: And like, that's ultimately, I guess what we're all doing
[44:48] Speaker 1: is like, and why toxic is, like so successful is
[44:52] Speaker 1: because you know generational patterns exist for a reason and
[44:57] Speaker 1: our behavior is what it is because like that's what
[44:59] Speaker 1: we know and all that stuff is so interesting to
[45:01] Speaker 1: unpack and that's how i'm justifying watching love island.
[45:04] Speaker 4: Oh my god i think that you would elizabeth i
[45:06] Speaker 4: think you'd be great on traders i.
[45:08] Speaker 1: Would love i mean i i need to watch it
[45:10] Speaker 1: first but i it sounds strategic.
[45:12] Speaker 4: Murder mystery it's a murder mystery.
[45:14] Speaker 3: You would be great on it. You would love it.
[45:16] Speaker 3: So is there any shows, because I know we're wrapping
[45:18] Speaker 3: up on the hour, but is there any shows if
[45:20] Speaker 3: you guys could go on? It's not like you'd have
[45:24] Speaker 3: to be pressured, but you're like, oh, I actually would
[45:27] Speaker 3: want to do that. Do you have one, Marissa, too?
[45:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty. Jeopardy.
[45:35] Speaker 5: I love it.
[45:36] Speaker 3: I love it.
[45:37] Speaker 1: The Wheel of Fortune would be an easy bag. I
[45:40] Speaker 1: was going to say the third unheeded rivalry, but no.
[45:45] Speaker 3: Let's make a deal.
[45:46] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[45:47] Speaker 5: Granny. Elizabeth calls me granny on this show. That's a
[45:50] Speaker 5: real granny. Yeah, Jeopardy.
[45:51] Speaker 1: That's so granny.
[45:53] Speaker 3: That is so granny.
[45:54] Speaker 1: No, just like toxic season three, four, five, six. I
[45:57] Speaker 1: want to be, we need like, we need to be
[45:59] Speaker 1: like the dateline. I want toxic for 900 seasons, but no,
[46:03] Speaker 1: I mean like, I think you've opened my eyes to
[46:06] Speaker 1: this whole, like the housewife stuff is really interesting too.
[46:09] Speaker 1: And you know, Rachel's a friend of ours too. So
[46:11] Speaker 1: it's like fun to see her and Kathy, like they're,
[46:14] Speaker 1: I don't know, like I've never watched it before, but
[46:16] Speaker 1: now I do find myself when you want to see
[46:18] Speaker 1: your friends succeed.
[46:20] Speaker 3: Right.
[46:20] Speaker 1: And you want to see, yeah for sure what everyone's
[46:23] Speaker 1: talking about like we have to be well and it's
[46:27] Speaker 1: like a bit like survivor too I mean let's be
[46:29] Speaker 1: honest navigating a teddy as you I mean as you
[46:32] Speaker 1: both know Tamara and Teddy like navigating some of these
[46:35] Speaker 1: dinner parties when the produce when you're like gonna get
[46:39] Speaker 1: attacked at it is is a real testament to like
[46:43] Speaker 1: how you can navigate.
[46:45] Speaker 3: And the fact is, we already know, like going into
[46:48] Speaker 3: the season without being told anything specific or special or
[46:52] Speaker 3: anything like we know if we're actually avid watchers of
[46:56] Speaker 3: the show that Tracy Tudor is going to walk in
[46:59] Speaker 3: there and have drama with Dorit. Like we already know
[47:02] Speaker 3: it because they didn't pay the hairstylist. I heard about this.
[47:07] Speaker 5: I can't believe it. I know.
[47:09] Speaker 4: I DM Chris Dillon. I'm like, oh, you're going to
[47:11] Speaker 4: be a topic of conversation.
[47:12] Speaker 5: By the way, like, yeah.
[47:14] Speaker 6: And it's all totally understandable. Like I would also, I
[47:18] Speaker 6: don't know what happened with Dorit and why she didn't
[47:21] Speaker 6: pay him.
[47:23] Speaker 5: But I would do the same thing. I would call up,
[47:26] Speaker 5: be like, pay this man. Like what is going on?
[47:28] Speaker 5: So I don't know the other side of the story.
[47:31] Speaker 5: Tracy's a good friend.
[47:32] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[47:32] Speaker 5: Doreen, we've met in passing.
[47:33] Speaker 1: Have you watched Housewives of Beverly Hills, Marissa? No.
[47:36] Speaker 6: I've watched a couple of episodes here and there, but I, look,
[47:39] Speaker 6: the truth is that that is my television over on
[47:41] Speaker 6: the wall.
[47:42] Speaker 1: You can see in the background.
[47:43] Speaker 5: I don't know how to turn it on. I don't know.
[47:47] Speaker 5: I've watched your show, Elizabeth, on the plane, on my
[47:50] Speaker 5: iPad and on my laptop. Cause I can figure that
[47:52] Speaker 5: one out. This TV, there's a remote. There's like all
[47:54] Speaker 5: different buttons. There's like more buttons. Not a remote.
[47:57] Speaker 4: Not a, holy shit.
[47:59] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[48:01] Speaker 6: That's for my kids. Like my kids will help me
[48:03] Speaker 6: do that. Like I watch, what do I watch? Watch
[48:06] Speaker 6: that show with Eleven in it.
[48:09] Speaker 5: Stranger Things. I watch Stranger Things.
[48:12] Speaker 1: Well, this is not our demographic. So we're going to
[48:14] Speaker 1: move on from that.
[48:16] Speaker 3: Oh my God.
[48:18] Speaker 4: Well, thank you guys so much. And congratulations on your podcast.
[48:22] Speaker 4: And I'm assuming you can listen to it wherever you
[48:25] Speaker 4: can listen to podcasts, right?
[48:26] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, thank you guys for your support. And thank
[48:29] Speaker 1: you for just being so much fun. And for all
[48:32] Speaker 1: that you guys do together, we are big fans.
[48:35] Speaker 5: Oh, thank you.
[48:35] Speaker 3: Where do people find you guys on social media?
[48:38] Speaker 5: Marissa Hermer. Marissa Hermer, Elizabeth Chambers, and also The Dash Pod.
[48:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, go follow The Dash Pod, guys.
[48:45] Speaker 6: Follow The Dash Pod. And a new episode, yeah, dropped
[48:49] Speaker 6: this morning. So check it out.
[48:50] Speaker 3: Do you drop one a week?
[48:51] Speaker 1: We do. You can learn all about Marissa's nipple hair online.
[48:55] Speaker 1: and bow tie if you tune in today oh my
[48:58] Speaker 1: god what was i thinking because i fell out of
[49:01] Speaker 1: my chair hey.
[49:03] Speaker 3: It's a thing okay i mean i've had a goat
[49:06] Speaker 3: hair before you know like before what do you mean
[49:08] Speaker 3: before you get them every every time you pluck it
[49:11] Speaker 3: it grows right back today and sometimes i'll feel it
[49:15] Speaker 3: right away and then sometimes i won't feel it until
[49:18] Speaker 3: it's like long and i'm like how am people have
[49:20] Speaker 3: seen this and no one has seen it?
[49:22] Speaker 5: What is happening?
[49:23] Speaker 1: We're all going to go to Laser Away. And I'm
[49:25] Speaker 1: sure there's a Laser Away in Orange County.
[49:28] Speaker 3: There's one in every corner.
[49:29] Speaker 1: I actually have an at-home device. Just come over. We'll
[49:31] Speaker 1: have a Laser Away party.
[49:33] Speaker 3: But the fact that you had them on your nipples
[49:36] Speaker 3: and you didn't notice worries me about the washing. There's two.
[49:40] Speaker 6: I had, we were dining, we ate outside and I like,
[49:45] Speaker 6: for some reason, I just had a sweatshirt on and
[49:46] Speaker 6: not a bra and we were tidying up inside.
[49:49] Speaker 5: And then the spy went to the bathroom and I
[49:50] Speaker 5: was like, come on, my nipple, like my- No.
[49:53] Speaker 1: They're going to listen to it.
[49:54] Speaker 5: They're going to see. Well, yeah.
[49:56] Speaker 6: So I lift up my shirt as the spy is
[49:58] Speaker 6: coming out of the bathroom and I'm like, oh my God,
[50:01] Speaker 6: there's two mosquito bites on each side under my nipple.
[50:05] Speaker 5: And then as I looked closer- in each mosquito bite,
[50:10] Speaker 5: sort of.
[50:10] Speaker 6: Like, you know, when someone lands on the moon and
[50:14] Speaker 6: sticks the flag in the.
[50:15] Speaker 3: Moon, there was.
[50:17] Speaker 6: A nipple hair in the flag saying mosquito bite.
[50:21] Speaker 5: And I was like, I mean, it was horrible. Anyway.
[50:25] Speaker 3: I mean, imagine how many times he kissed your boobs
[50:27] Speaker 3: and you've seen that.
[50:28] Speaker 5: Oh, God.
[50:29] Speaker 4: Let's just call it relatable. Okay.
[50:31] Speaker 3: Because us girls, shit happens. Oh, my gosh.
[50:35] Speaker 1: Exactly. All right.
[50:35] Speaker 3: Well, we love you guys. Thank you so much.
[50:37] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[50:38] Speaker 1: Bye.
[50:38] Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll see you in LA and we'll all go out.
[50:41] Speaker 1: Let's do that.
[50:42] Speaker 3: We'll do a group one in person.
[50:43] Speaker 5: All righty.
[50:44] Speaker 1: Bye, guys.
[50:44] Speaker 5: Bye.

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