# Dirty Rush: Boys will be Boys

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 3 Jul 2026, 26 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/28/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/c8c5d667-53e2-4f5d-bcb1-b32a01314a62/6e23f3e1-ca2f-4d26-b7be-b4750169442e/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=59f37943-e628-4810-8c3b-ae2b00156477

We're switching things up, BIG TIME! We've got a Fraternity guy asking the questions of the Sorority Sisters! The girls have to answer everything HE wants to know about college women, sorority life, date parties, and what girls REALLY think about Fraternity Men. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
[0:04] Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
[0:11] Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. Today,
[0:16] Speaker 3: we have some of our Dirty Rush producers on to
[0:19] Speaker 3: answer questions from a fraternity member currently in college himself.
[0:24] Speaker 3: We have collected all the questions that fraternity men are
[0:26] Speaker 3: dying to know about girls and sorority life, and we're
[0:29] Speaker 3: going to be unpacking it all today. Our fraternity host
[0:33] Speaker 3: is Dylan. Welcome Dylan.
[0:35] Speaker 4: Hi, Thank you.
[0:36] Speaker 3: Dylan. Do you want to tell everyone a little bit
[0:38] Speaker 3: about yourself?
[0:39] Speaker 4: Yeah, I am from California. I went to San die
[0:43] Speaker 4: Yo State my first year and I transwered to Santa Clara.
[0:46] Speaker 4: I'm going to be a senior next year and I
[0:47] Speaker 4: am in a fraternity at Santa Clara. What I love
[0:51] Speaker 4: about my fraternity is we're very focused around mental health
[0:54] Speaker 4: and we have a lot of good philanthropy around it. Yeah,
[0:58] Speaker 4: it's probably my favorite part about it.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Awesome. And then Dylan is going to ask us some
[1:04] Speaker 3: questions that all the fraternity men are dying to know.
[1:07] Speaker 3: We're going to go around and all of our producers
[1:10] Speaker 3: that are on today are going to say their name
[1:12] Speaker 3: and what swarty they were in, and let's do what
[1:15] Speaker 3: state our school was in as well. So my name
[1:18] Speaker 3: is Shelby and I was a Zeta and I went
[1:20] Speaker 3: to school in Texas.
[1:22] Speaker 5: My name's Kendall. I was a gammified Beta and I
[1:25] Speaker 5: went to University of Arizona.
[1:27] Speaker 1: My name's Ebbie and I was a Theta and I
[1:30] Speaker 1: went to a school in LA.
[1:32] Speaker 6: My name's Reese, and I was in California.
[1:38] Speaker 7: My dad's Fantastasia, and I'm a kappa at UC Berkeley.
[1:42] Speaker 8: My name is Sabina and I was a d G
[1:45] Speaker 8: also at UC Berkeley.
[1:46] Speaker 2: We are we all at different houses?
[1:48] Speaker 1: Woo, yeah, got some representation.
[1:52] Speaker 5: Okay, I have a question before we get into Dylan
[1:55] Speaker 5: asking questions. Can all of us say, Dylan, your favorite
[1:59] Speaker 5: so at your school and for us girls, our favorite
[2:03] Speaker 5: fraternity at our schools O.
[2:06] Speaker 1: Mine was stay Makay, mine was SIGAP.
[2:09] Speaker 7: I think ours is either ZA or SA.
[2:12] Speaker 8: I'd have to disagree, not like SA.
[2:16] Speaker 7: I'd probably say kay, okay, yeah that makes sense.
[2:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, mine was sick up.
[2:20] Speaker 2: Woo.
[2:21] Speaker 4: Mine is probably ALP with FI classic.
[2:25] Speaker 5: All right, Dylan, what do you have for us what questions.
[2:27] Speaker 4: Okay, starting off, do sorority girls actually like doing the
[2:32] Speaker 4: chance at the door during recruitment or do they think
[2:34] Speaker 4: it's annoying.
[2:37] Speaker 3: I would say, we don't do the full door chance.
[2:40] Speaker 3: Ours was like once you walk in, so I never
[2:43] Speaker 3: got to do like the ones. I know, like at
[2:44] Speaker 3: other schools they like stack up and do chance like
[2:47] Speaker 3: right at the door. We never did that. I liked it.
[2:50] Speaker 3: I was like in charge of like the choreography and
[2:53] Speaker 3: like teaching everyone for a couple of years, which is
[2:56] Speaker 3: like very fitting for me if you knew me. But
[3:00] Speaker 3: so I would say I liked it, but most people
[3:01] Speaker 3: hated it. So I would say the answer is no,
[3:04] Speaker 3: even though I liked.
[3:05] Speaker 6: It, I kind of agree with Shelby I had. I
[3:09] Speaker 6: thought it was funny because we only did one and
[3:11] Speaker 6: we would like run to the front door, and I
[3:14] Speaker 6: was put in the front because I have like really
[3:16] Speaker 6: long hair and you had to like whip our necks
[3:18] Speaker 6: back and forth, and so I got like whiplash kind of.
[3:21] Speaker 6: But I thought we only did it like one time
[3:23] Speaker 6: at the end as sort of like a joke to
[3:27] Speaker 6: ease tensions or whatever. So I kind of thought it was.
[3:29] Speaker 5: Funny Dylan as a guy, Like when you see videos
[3:32] Speaker 5: on TikTok or Instagram, what are your thoughts when you
[3:35] Speaker 5: see girls chanting at the door.
[3:38] Speaker 4: I think they're cool. I think they're funny, like some
[3:39] Speaker 4: of the ones I would always look for, like my friends,
[3:42] Speaker 4: like at my school for the if like my school
[3:45] Speaker 4: sorties came up on the for you page, but don't
[3:48] Speaker 4: find it weird, I mean, for turnings have weird stuff
[3:52] Speaker 4: too that you guys probably wouldn't understand. So I guess
[3:54] Speaker 4: it goes both ways.
[3:55] Speaker 2: Well, now you have to tell us one.
[4:00] Speaker 4: Hm, we can get into that later.
[4:02] Speaker 9: I don't know.
[4:04] Speaker 3: Okay, Well we'll get into it, okay.
[4:07] Speaker 4: Another question, how do surdy girls decide who do you
[4:10] Speaker 4: want to bring to formals? Other like certain aspects of
[4:13] Speaker 4: a guy or what they look like that you guys
[4:16] Speaker 4: look for.
[4:17] Speaker 7: I think when it comes to like who you're bringing,
[4:19] Speaker 7: I think, at least for my group, if all of
[4:22] Speaker 7: my friends are bringing guys, and it's kind of like
[4:25] Speaker 7: a group thing of like, oh, I'm bringing a date,
[4:27] Speaker 7: like it makes you feel better to bring one, I
[4:30] Speaker 7: would say, unless you're like actually like feel steady and
[4:35] Speaker 7: like like you guys have been talking for a while
[4:38] Speaker 7: and like it's maybe an exclusive thing or like you
[4:41] Speaker 7: guys have like our dating Like then it's like, yes,
[4:44] Speaker 7: I'll bring a guy. But if like you're the only
[4:47] Speaker 7: girl in your group bringing a guy, that's just that's
[4:50] Speaker 7: not fun for anyone. And so if it's like collectively
[4:53] Speaker 7: like hey, like let's all bring dates, then it's like, Okay,
[4:56] Speaker 7: I'll find a date. And they maybe you can ask
[4:58] Speaker 7: in like a friendly way, or you can ask in
[5:01] Speaker 7: like hey, like me and all my friends are bringing dates,
[5:03] Speaker 7: like come it'll be fun because then like you get it,
[5:05] Speaker 7: come along. But like it's so awkward when you guys
[5:08] Speaker 7: are all on that party bus and like you're the
[5:11] Speaker 7: only guy and like you're kind of an outsider, and
[5:13] Speaker 7: it's just like all these girls like torking on the
[5:15] Speaker 7: stripper poles and like you guys are going to the
[5:17] Speaker 7: venue and everything. It's like you're trying to entertain your date.
[5:19] Speaker 7: But then at the same time, like you want to
[5:21] Speaker 7: be with your friends. So like collectively, like if a
[5:24] Speaker 7: lot of guys are coming, then bring a guy.
[5:26] Speaker 8: My sorty love to do my ties. I don't know
[5:30] Speaker 8: if that's a thing at everyone's school, but it would
[5:32] Speaker 8: be like your friends would pair you up with this
[5:35] Speaker 8: like a basically blind date. So it usually happens like
[5:38] Speaker 8: we had two invites or date parties a semester, and
[5:41] Speaker 8: for one of them, it seemed like different friend groups
[5:44] Speaker 8: would always do my ties. And if that were the case,
[5:48] Speaker 8: then people would usually try and find like a group
[5:50] Speaker 8: of guys to go with a group of girls and
[5:52] Speaker 8: kind of just like pair everyone up or yeah, I
[5:56] Speaker 8: would agree, like a lot of the times it kind
[5:58] Speaker 8: of was just a little bit awkward if you were
[6:00] Speaker 8: going with like your group of girls and there was
[6:01] Speaker 8: like one guy, especially if you guys weren't like talking
[6:04] Speaker 8: or like seeing each other, and it was kind of
[6:05] Speaker 8: just like a random pairing. So it's usually planned, like
[6:09] Speaker 8: everybody would bring a date, or like kind of nobody
[6:12] Speaker 8: would bring a date.
[6:13] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Also, Dylan asked, like, what do you look for in
[6:17] Speaker 1: a guy when you're deciding, Like, I think one thing
[6:22] Speaker 1: that goes unnoticed is a lot of times, or at
[6:25] Speaker 1: least in my storty, there would be just a few
[6:28] Speaker 1: date parties in a row where like someone's date would
[6:32] Speaker 1: get too unhinged and maybe throw up on the party
[6:34] Speaker 1: bus or like say something out of pocket. And I
[6:38] Speaker 1: feel like girls started to go with like safer calls
[6:41] Speaker 1: when it came to guys like who were more well
[6:44] Speaker 1: behaved and who just weren't going to just be like
[6:48] Speaker 1: a wild card.
[6:50] Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys had that, No, I
[6:51] Speaker 2: had that.
[6:52] Speaker 5: I had a date freshman year gets so drunk that
[6:54] Speaker 5: he headbutted another guy at my Oh, Dylan, Why do
[6:59] Speaker 5: guys feel they need to get drunk? Is it that
[7:01] Speaker 5: boring or something when they come on these sorority parties.
[7:05] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[7:06] Speaker 2: I like, do you have fun on them? Or are
[7:09] Speaker 2: they boring?
[7:09] Speaker 4: I love them, They're great. I think it's a different
[7:12] Speaker 4: kind of It's a different like social thing because usually
[7:16] Speaker 4: guys are used to being like at a fratorney where
[7:18] Speaker 4: it's only like their guys friends. I think it's fun
[7:20] Speaker 4: sometimes to hang out like other dudes that you don't
[7:24] Speaker 4: get to talk to as much because girls are bringing
[7:26] Speaker 4: like guys from random for frattorneys And do you.
[7:28] Speaker 2: Guys you have weekenders?
[7:30] Speaker 8: Uh?
[7:31] Speaker 4: Like we call it like a way formal. It's like
[7:33] Speaker 4: once a year or twice a year.
[7:36] Speaker 6: I have a theory about sometimes why they get too drunk.
[7:40] Speaker 6: I brought a date that he kind of like invited himself.
[7:43] Speaker 6: My friend was bringing his friend, and then the friend
[7:46] Speaker 6: was like, can you bring my friend? And I was
[7:48] Speaker 6: like sure, and he said he got too excited, so.
[7:52] Speaker 2: I'm like nervous.
[7:53] Speaker 6: So he was pregaming like way too much so that
[7:56] Speaker 6: he could like build up the courage to like be there,
[7:59] Speaker 6: and then he just got carried away and it wasn't
[8:02] Speaker 6: for anyone.
[8:04] Speaker 3: Dylan, I have a question for you. Do you have
[8:06] Speaker 3: like more fun at a formal like that you got
[8:08] Speaker 3: invited to by a girl if like you have a
[8:10] Speaker 3: guy friend there, because I feel like a lot of
[8:12] Speaker 3: the times, like my friends try to bring like guys
[8:14] Speaker 3: that know each other because then they like are less
[8:16] Speaker 3: like they seem like they're having more fun when they
[8:18] Speaker 3: have like a buddy there instead of just like by themselves.
[8:20] Speaker 4: Like yeah, one hundred, I think girls sometimes like to
[8:24] Speaker 4: be like whispering in the corner or like doing like
[8:26] Speaker 4: the and like we're just gonna be like sitting there
[8:29] Speaker 4: awkwardly if we don't know each other. So yeah, definitely,
[8:33] Speaker 4: like bringing a guy that already knows someone theres is
[8:36] Speaker 4: definitely a good play.
[8:37] Speaker 2: We don't have fun asking you questions? Is it true?
[8:40] Speaker 5: That guys hate when girls like go to the bathroom
[8:43] Speaker 5: together in like a group, like they find that annoying.
[8:46] Speaker 4: No, I mean, we don't really care. I think it's
[8:48] Speaker 4: more like like I was out to dinner with some
[8:51] Speaker 4: girls two weeks ago and they were just whispering the
[8:54] Speaker 4: whole time because they were super drunk. Like at the
[8:56] Speaker 4: end of the table, We're like, guys, come on, you
[8:58] Speaker 4: gotta like like I save it for after or something,
[9:02] Speaker 4: you know, or or go to the bathroom so you
[9:05] Speaker 4: don't look like you're just like talking about everyone else.
[9:08] Speaker 2: You're probably talking about you.
[9:26] Speaker 4: If you're meeting a guy for the first time out
[9:27] Speaker 4: of attorney, what makes him more memorable is if he's
[9:30] Speaker 4: like funny, nice, good looking. What do you guys look for?
[9:35] Speaker 4: Or like what what leaves you remembering him?
[9:38] Speaker 3: I feel like this is so woring what kind of
[9:40] Speaker 3: manners Like I don't know if you like it's like
[9:42] Speaker 3: what Kenda was saying, like if you bring a guy
[9:44] Speaker 3: to a formal like you or maybe Ebby was just
[9:46] Speaker 3: saying it, but you want to like have them be
[9:47] Speaker 3: like behaved and like I don't know when they're like
[9:50] Speaker 3: going around, like if they're like a new date and
[9:52] Speaker 3: they're introducing themselves to your friends and you're swarty big
[9:54] Speaker 3: like and like you leave and then the next day
[9:56] Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh my god, your date was so awesome,
[9:58] Speaker 3: like blah blah blah blah, He's so nice, she was
[10:00] Speaker 3: so fun Like that just like feels good because like
[10:02] Speaker 3: especially like now everyone knew him then, like that's just
[10:05] Speaker 3: a better feeling. So like for me, it'd probably be
[10:09] Speaker 3: like yeah, manners and like funniness, like when they're having
[10:12] Speaker 3: a good time because like I feel like, looks you
[10:15] Speaker 3: already knew it beforehand.
[10:16] Speaker 6: So and like having your friends well when other people
[10:20] Speaker 6: have good things to say about them kind of like
[10:22] Speaker 6: all of that. If you're talking to other people and
[10:24] Speaker 6: you're like what do you think about this guy? And
[10:25] Speaker 6: it's all great reviews and that's definitely something good. But
[10:29] Speaker 6: if it's sort of like oh, why are you asking,
[10:32] Speaker 6: and then they'll have to like say or like save
[10:35] Speaker 6: what their actual opinion is, then you know like probably
[10:38] Speaker 6: shouldn't go any further.
[10:40] Speaker 1: Also, a lot of times there's alcohol involved in these events,
[10:43] Speaker 1: so you might not have the best memory, so you
[10:45] Speaker 1: need like the good pr all around. Yes, like you're like, oh,
[10:49] Speaker 1: how was he actually like, oh he was really nice.
[10:52] Speaker 1: You remember, like, oh, oh good, I'm glad.
[10:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was nice too.
[10:58] Speaker 5: I have a question for all of us to shake
[11:00] Speaker 5: things up before Dylan's next question. Everyone answer like an
[11:04] Speaker 5: ick they have from like you know, talking to a
[11:08] Speaker 5: fraternity guy or sporty girl at school. Like for me,
[11:11] Speaker 5: mine would be like, I know guys can't help it,
[11:14] Speaker 5: but sometimes out of fraternity when they're like so sweaty,
[11:19] Speaker 5: and that gives me the eck, Especially when they try
[11:21] Speaker 5: to like hey, like hug you and stuff, I'm like,
[11:23] Speaker 5: oh God, like I'm that sweaty courtyard Like that gives.
[11:25] Speaker 2: Me the eck. What about you?
[11:27] Speaker 9: Guys?
[11:28] Speaker 7: Mine might be super random, but I absolutely hate guys
[11:31] Speaker 7: that have like an obscene like zen addiction. Like for me,
[11:36] Speaker 7: just like when they always have it up and I
[11:39] Speaker 7: just know that they're either like spitting into a cup
[11:42] Speaker 7: or like it's just so gross to me and like
[11:45] Speaker 7: ninety nine percent of the time, like you can only
[11:47] Speaker 7: have it in for like forty five minutes before they
[11:48] Speaker 7: have to switch it out and put a new one.
[11:50] Speaker 7: It's like, dude, like just drink or like I don't know,
[11:53] Speaker 7: like zen addictions to me are just like, oh, that's
[11:56] Speaker 7: so like cool within guys and it's just the worst.
[12:00] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[12:01] Speaker 9: Also kind of like going off that if they're like
[12:03] Speaker 9: spitting at a party, because they people like spit when
[12:06] Speaker 9: they're sitting and it's just like you'll be talking to
[12:08] Speaker 9: them and then they'll just randomly spit and you're like,
[12:09] Speaker 9: oh wait, like what you ew?
[12:13] Speaker 3: Gross? I would say this is so bad. But like
[12:17] Speaker 3: if I bring a guy to my formal, like I
[12:19] Speaker 3: want him to buy me a drink, like and like
[12:21] Speaker 3: sometimes they're like oh like whatever, Like if I'm taking
[12:25] Speaker 3: you to my formal, like I feel like you need
[12:26] Speaker 3: to buy me a drink. So I guess when they
[12:29] Speaker 3: don't do that.
[12:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would also say like if you're just if
[12:34] Speaker 1: you're a guy and you're hanging out too much with
[12:36] Speaker 1: your friends, like you're just there to be with the voice,
[12:40] Speaker 1: like why are you even there? If a girl brought
[12:43] Speaker 1: you to their formal, they probably they like you and
[12:44] Speaker 1: they want to spend time with you. So yeah, I
[12:50] Speaker 1: would just think like there's sometimes when guys would act
[12:52] Speaker 1: like especially freshen Ye would act like way too cool
[12:55] Speaker 1: for school, and it's like okay, if somebody brought you
[12:58] Speaker 1: spend time with them, diama, drink like, dance with them
[13:02] Speaker 1: a little. It's not that hard.
[13:05] Speaker 6: Mine's like the same as pals, like if they have
[13:08] Speaker 6: bad body odor. Like sometimes I'll have like a guy's
[13:11] Speaker 6: side hug me and then it'll linger on my warm
[13:15] Speaker 6: and then I'm just like like having to lean away
[13:18] Speaker 6: from myself or figure out. It's just figure it out, please,
[13:22] Speaker 6: Like I don't want your bodyoder like lingering on me
[13:26] Speaker 6: the most.
[13:29] Speaker 8: Mine's not specific to like a formal but I feel
[13:31] Speaker 8: like I've had a couple of situations where I've like
[13:33] Speaker 8: watched the way guys interact with Like for example, this
[13:36] Speaker 8: was on like a game day and this guy was
[13:38] Speaker 8: the door at his frat, and I like watched the
[13:40] Speaker 8: way he interacted with like strangers or people trying to
[13:43] Speaker 8: come into the frat, and he just gave like a
[13:44] Speaker 8: really like negative kind of like cocky douchebag energy and
[13:48] Speaker 8: like was just rude to people who were trying to
[13:50] Speaker 8: come in for like a game day. And I feel
[13:52] Speaker 8: like the way that these frat guys carry themselves in
[13:55] Speaker 8: situations with people that aren't their brothers is like a
[13:58] Speaker 8: huge indicator of like the type of guy that they
[13:59] Speaker 8: all and if you can tell that they like don't
[14:02] Speaker 8: care about anybody other than like the people within their
[14:05] Speaker 8: frat or like the swordy girls that are like pretty
[14:08] Speaker 8: or whatever. Like, it just really rubs me the wrong way.
[14:10] Speaker 2: It's a good one, Dylan. Besides the whispering, what dick
[14:13] Speaker 2: do you have?
[14:14] Speaker 4: I guess just the girl that kind of knows every
[14:16] Speaker 4: guy at the frag It kind of is like the
[14:17] Speaker 4: social like a little too social. I don't know. It
[14:20] Speaker 4: just rubs me the wrong way.
[14:21] Speaker 2: I feel like, especially if you like her.
[14:25] Speaker 4: Uh well, well that makes it way worse. Yeah, I'd
[14:29] Speaker 4: probably try to stay away.
[14:31] Speaker 2: Yeah I get that, all right, Let's go to the
[14:33] Speaker 2: next one.
[14:34] Speaker 4: Oh again, what makes the shack shirt cool? Like, do
[14:41] Speaker 4: girls when they go over to guy's place want to
[14:43] Speaker 4: get one to like show like go back to their
[14:47] Speaker 4: friend's house and like be asked about it or like
[14:50] Speaker 4: why is it cool?
[14:51] Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily say like summer cool over the other,
[14:54] Speaker 5: but obviously people in school would be like, yeah, I
[14:57] Speaker 5: got this shackture, I got that secture. You didn't get that,
[15:00] Speaker 5: Like people were really immature like that. But as a girl,
[15:04] Speaker 5: it was like I personally loved a shack shirt because
[15:08] Speaker 5: you don't want to go home the next day in
[15:10] Speaker 5: your body suit, like you want to at least have
[15:13] Speaker 5: a shirt.
[15:13] Speaker 2: On, don't you guys all agree?
[15:15] Speaker 5: Yeah, over you're going out outfit because then it's a
[15:17] Speaker 5: little less like.
[15:19] Speaker 3: Hunter bonus points for like a cool sweatshirt bonus points.
[15:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think it also a little bit like
[15:30] Speaker 1: collecting different t shirts that are like oversized and like
[15:35] Speaker 1: too big for you just shows oh, like you get
[15:37] Speaker 1: questions about it going back to the swarthy house like
[15:40] Speaker 1: where were you last night? Like where'd you get that?
[15:42] Speaker 1: Then you can kind of have to You can either
[15:44] Speaker 1: play it cool and be like, oh, you don't get
[15:47] Speaker 1: to know.
[15:48] Speaker 5: Well, do guys keep tabs if they don't get their
[15:50] Speaker 5: stuff back, like if they think girls will return it.
[15:54] Speaker 4: Guys definitely keep tabs, But it's sometimes it's not important
[15:57] Speaker 4: enough to like text them if they don't talk to
[15:59] Speaker 4: them anymore.
[16:00] Speaker 5: I feel like that'd be weird if a guy's like, hey,
[16:01] Speaker 5: I need my like Sigma Kuye volleyball shirt.
[16:04] Speaker 2: Back, can you come over?
[16:06] Speaker 9: Yeah?
[16:06] Speaker 4: No, they definitely do keep tubs. How are fraterneys ranked?
[16:25] Speaker 4: How do you guys create the rankings. Do you talk
[16:27] Speaker 4: about it?
[16:29] Speaker 3: I feel like at my school it was like every
[16:31] Speaker 3: soorty had a different ranking, and like even every person
[16:34] Speaker 3: in Authorty like my sworty, Like every like PC had
[16:37] Speaker 3: a different top frat, which was interesting. I feel like
[16:39] Speaker 3: at some other schools I hear there's like kind of
[16:41] Speaker 3: like sister fraternities and sworties or maybe there's another word
[16:45] Speaker 3: for it. But at my school was like my PC
[16:50] Speaker 3: like loved certain fraternities and like the one below us
[16:53] Speaker 3: like because their guy PC was like better in the
[16:56] Speaker 3: year below, like different ones. I feel like it's in
[16:58] Speaker 3: terms of like party are big, like if they have
[17:02] Speaker 3: the best parties. I mean when you're like looking for
[17:05] Speaker 3: like where to go, there's usually a lot of options,
[17:07] Speaker 3: so like your favorite fraternity, it's like where you're going
[17:10] Speaker 3: to go to the party or the tailgate, And then
[17:13] Speaker 3: I feel like just like yeah, I mean the guys
[17:14] Speaker 3: like being like fun and like cool people, and like
[17:17] Speaker 3: for me, like a lot of the guys in the
[17:19] Speaker 3: fraternity I went the most were like from my area,
[17:21] Speaker 3: so I like knew a lot of them and then
[17:22] Speaker 3: got to know their friends, so it was like very
[17:24] Speaker 3: comfortable for me and like I just got very close
[17:26] Speaker 3: with them all, so I feel like that would be
[17:28] Speaker 3: for me.
[17:30] Speaker 2: I also feel like the reputations are already like there
[17:32] Speaker 2: when you go into school, so it's like it's hard,
[17:35] Speaker 2: don't you guys feel that way, Like you don't even
[17:36] Speaker 2: make it up yourself.
[17:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say like the top tier and the
[17:41] Speaker 1: mid tier. I mean, it's like feel so annoying to
[17:44] Speaker 1: even talk about tiers right now, but like I feel
[17:48] Speaker 1: like those are established, but you can certainly move between
[17:52] Speaker 1: depending on like what's the new PC and who's driving
[17:55] Speaker 1: with who. I remember my freshman year essaying you was
[17:58] Speaker 1: definitely like on top at the beginning because they threw
[18:02] Speaker 1: this huge party it called Splash and it was like
[18:04] Speaker 1: the first week of school and they'd run out this
[18:06] Speaker 1: place in Malibu and and bite all these girls and
[18:09] Speaker 1: like they were so up. But then Sigma Kai was
[18:14] Speaker 1: like on so pro or not even like they had
[18:16] Speaker 1: to be like the PC. It's like a tradition that
[18:18] Speaker 1: like for the first quarter, you're on sopro if you're
[18:20] Speaker 1: in Si Kai. And then they started throwing parties like
[18:26] Speaker 1: Winter Quarter that I remember that everyone was like, wait,
[18:28] Speaker 1: sig Kai's best, Like they're up and then like SIGEP
[18:31] Speaker 1: got in there, and so I think it just like
[18:34] Speaker 1: could definitely move around the ranks. Yeah, but you have
[18:39] Speaker 1: to like be fun and have good stuff to go to.
[18:42] Speaker 5: Right.
[18:43] Speaker 2: I hate the rankings so dumb. Yeah, it's really stupid.
[18:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, just like be friends with who you want to
[18:48] Speaker 1: be friends with, right, you could pick yourself.
[18:51] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[18:53] Speaker 4: I remember freshman year, my guys older would make us
[18:56] Speaker 4: paint for hours because like with these neon all this stuff,
[19:00] Speaker 4: because he was like, the girls are gonna want to
[19:03] Speaker 4: take photos. That's why they come here is to take
[19:05] Speaker 4: cool photos.
[19:05] Speaker 3: Oh that's cute, that's interesting.
[19:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, we were pledged painting.
[19:11] Speaker 4: Yes, we all had to paint for for hours. Yeah.
[19:14] Speaker 2: And did girls end up taking photos? Was it worth it?
[19:16] Speaker 4: I think so? Yes they were we we we that
[19:19] Speaker 4: was like our thing was like big murals.
[19:23] Speaker 2: Wow.
[19:24] Speaker 3: Did you feel like you competed with other fraternities to
[19:26] Speaker 3: have like a better setup for the party.
[19:28] Speaker 4: Oh for sure.
[19:29] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[19:29] Speaker 3: Yeah that's so interesting.
[19:33] Speaker 6: I like water attraction. You like what but water attraction
[19:39] Speaker 6: like a slip inside.
[19:40] Speaker 3: Or yeah, darty's Oh so fun.
[19:43] Speaker 6: If one party has a water attraction and another one
[19:46] Speaker 6: does it, I'm not going I am dying or foam.
[19:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a pham.
[19:54] Speaker 2: The foam is so gross.
[19:55] Speaker 8: Like we had one frat who threw a party with
[19:58] Speaker 8: packing peanuts and it became like a safety hazard because
[20:02] Speaker 8: it's like their number one party of the year is
[20:04] Speaker 8: called frost, and they layered their entire floor with packing
[20:08] Speaker 8: peanuts and it became so sticky that like no one
[20:11] Speaker 8: could walk around and everyone's shoes were ruined. And I'm
[20:13] Speaker 8: pretty sure for that party alone, they spent like I
[20:17] Speaker 8: think it was like over ten grand just on like
[20:19] Speaker 8: decorations and like painting. They got like an ice sculpture
[20:21] Speaker 8: and there's this whole thing. But even though that fraternity
[20:24] Speaker 8: wasn't like ranked very high, that party was like the
[20:27] Speaker 8: number one party of the year, like everyone talks about it.
[20:30] Speaker 1: Saina brings up like a really good point because the
[20:32] Speaker 1: budgets that I would hear about for these parties were
[20:35] Speaker 1: like insane. Like I live next to a frat that
[20:39] Speaker 1: would throw like a sailor's ball and they would literally
[20:43] Speaker 1: flood their basement and put like sand in the basement.
[20:46] Speaker 3: Of the frat. Yes, that's crazy.
[20:49] Speaker 1: Like the damage to these places there was like foam topia.
[20:52] Speaker 1: There were all these different parties for each frat, and
[20:54] Speaker 1: I think it's like, yeah, I.
[20:55] Speaker 8: Think the budget was more to do with how much
[20:57] Speaker 8: they'd get fined and setting aside a certain amount that
[21:00] Speaker 8: they'd be willing to pay a fine, rather than actually
[21:02] Speaker 8: buying anything. So it'd be like a twenty thousand dollars
[21:05] Speaker 8: budget that had nothing to do with what they purchased
[21:08] Speaker 8: or when.
[21:08] Speaker 2: They break like art it.
[21:10] Speaker 5: Did you guys have your fraternities like we always had,
[21:12] Speaker 5: like Gorgan City or like not Rufous, but you know,
[21:15] Speaker 5: like people come and perform at them.
[21:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan, did you have that ever your fraternity?
[21:20] Speaker 4: I had like one when I was at San Diego State. Yeah.
[21:23] Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone does that.
[21:24] Speaker 4: And the budgets, the budgets are crazy for those Where
[21:26] Speaker 4: does that come from? Is that like your dol alumni?
[21:29] Speaker 4: I mean a little bit of dude. Oh, it's the
[21:32] Speaker 4: definitely matters how long the fraternity's been around, because I'm
[21:34] Speaker 4: in a fratney now that's only been around for like
[21:37] Speaker 4: fifteen years, so we don't have all those older rich guys.
[21:40] Speaker 1: Oh wow, I think sig Kai has like the best alumni.
[21:43] Speaker 3: Oh interesting.
[21:44] Speaker 4: Nationally, it's pretty I think Essay is one of the
[21:47] Speaker 4: richest ones now.
[21:48] Speaker 1: Probably Essay too, honestly, and Dylan as a guy, how
[21:53] Speaker 1: do you get invited?
[21:54] Speaker 5: Because like sometimes like other fraternity guys are at another
[21:57] Speaker 5: one's fraternity party, Like is it just if you're cool
[22:00] Speaker 5: with someone?
[22:00] Speaker 2: Like how does that work? I've always wondered.
[22:02] Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, you just have to be friends with someone,
[22:05] Speaker 4: and like you can't be like a problematic guy, Like
[22:07] Speaker 4: if you're going over there and they invite you, you
[22:09] Speaker 4: can't act like it's your own place because you're not
[22:11] Speaker 4: paying too. You're not paying it for anything.
[22:13] Speaker 2: So right, that makes sense?
[22:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, what are the biggest red flags sorority girls
[22:20] Speaker 4: seen fraternity guys? I guess if a fraternity guy's president
[22:23] Speaker 4: or high up on the exec board, is that attractive,
[22:26] Speaker 4: does that make him cooler? What do you guys think?
[22:29] Speaker 3: I think it could in a way of like they're
[22:32] Speaker 3: a little bit driven maybe, but like not like oh,
[22:35] Speaker 3: you're president, so you're cool, but like, oh, like you're
[22:38] Speaker 3: not just caring about partying and like this, like you
[22:41] Speaker 3: actually have a little bit of drive. I don't know.
[22:42] Speaker 3: I feel like I would be like, Okay, that's.
[22:45] Speaker 6: Nice if they had like a position in a school
[22:49] Speaker 6: club or something like that.
[22:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm like biased because I was sorority president,
[22:54] Speaker 1: So I'm like if it's a if you're in a sorority,
[22:57] Speaker 1: I feel like it's different.
[22:58] Speaker 2: But I do think it.
[22:59] Speaker 1: Means that you're really like well liked and well respected
[23:02] Speaker 1: within within your fraternity. I just would more be like,
[23:07] Speaker 1: why aren't you taking that? As someone who's done it.
[23:11] Speaker 1: It's so much time and dedication with like depending I
[23:14] Speaker 1: don't know what the payoffice for frats, I don't know.
[23:18] Speaker 1: I feel like it's really really well respected when you're
[23:22] Speaker 1: an underclassman because you're like, oh my gosh, he's the
[23:26] Speaker 1: president of SAE, Like right, body's so hot, or you're like,
[23:30] Speaker 1: who's the president of this sorority? But then when you're
[23:32] Speaker 1: actually that age or like oh wow, I can't believe
[23:35] Speaker 1: you actually did that.
[23:36] Speaker 3: About if they're the social chair, because I feel like
[23:40] Speaker 3: some of the guys at my school, the social chairs
[23:41] Speaker 3: thought they were like the shit and because like they
[23:44] Speaker 3: just said it on the parties and like who got
[23:46] Speaker 3: to go in? So like is that an eck to anyone?
[23:48] Speaker 3: Because like I think in high school they.
[23:50] Speaker 1: Were like really big energy, like I'm in charge of.
[23:53] Speaker 2: The risk yeah school, and.
[23:56] Speaker 3: They are selective about like who can go.
[23:58] Speaker 4: And they always sent out the text the horny yes,
[24:02] Speaker 4: the text.
[24:02] Speaker 1: Well, okay, if you're a social chair. Usually for us,
[24:05] Speaker 1: it was like if you were a sophomore, So that
[24:07] Speaker 1: meant that means like the juniors respected you enough to
[24:11] Speaker 1: like make or like the sophomores at the time respected
[24:14] Speaker 1: a freshman enough to make them the social chair when
[24:16] Speaker 1: they were sophomore. So I feel like it means you're well,
[24:20] Speaker 1: like but yeah, like is it kind of a dumb
[24:22] Speaker 1: gig and you're you really like, thank you're hot for like, yeah,
[24:27] Speaker 1: being the one that sends out the text and plans
[24:29] Speaker 1: how many pineapples are coming to Pineapple Tuesday?
[24:32] Speaker 3: Like what is that elaborate?
[24:35] Speaker 6: Please?
[24:35] Speaker 1: This is another specific party. But they would there was
[24:40] Speaker 1: one singap would do Pineapple Tuesday. We're like one Tuesday quarter.
[24:44] Speaker 1: They'd get all the pledges to core like hundreds of pineapples.
[24:50] Speaker 1: Like I think guys would be like, I've got so
[24:52] Speaker 1: many cuts from the pineapples and like, and it.
[24:54] Speaker 10: Would stay for the pineapple juice because they'd be like
[24:58] Speaker 10: poring them and then you carry one or on the
[25:00] Speaker 10: whole party, each girl, for each party person company to
[25:03] Speaker 10: the party, we'll be holding a pineapple full of whatever
[25:06] Speaker 10: drink you had.
[25:07] Speaker 2: My god, you guys, I miss fraternity party so much.
[25:11] Speaker 2: This stuff. It's so funny.
[25:12] Speaker 1: Afterwards you're like, oh my god, I gotta get ready
[25:16] Speaker 1: in my dorm for Pineapple Tuesday.
[25:17] Speaker 2: It's like, what am I gonna wear?
[25:19] Speaker 1: Who is a Hawaiian shirt? Do I wear a bikini
[25:21] Speaker 1: top or Hawaiian shirt to Pineapple Tuesday?
[25:24] Speaker 5: So you guys seriously have to live up go to
[25:26] Speaker 5: every fraternity party because the bars post college are Google.
[25:31] Speaker 2: Sorry, Reese, I know you just graduated.
[25:33] Speaker 6: But it's I don't even know what to say right now.
[25:36] Speaker 2: It's sad. It's sad.
[25:39] Speaker 3: That's it for this episode of Dirty Rush. Makes you
[25:41] Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram and TikTok at Dirty Rush Podcast
[25:45] Speaker 3: so you don't miss new episodes, exclusive clips, and more.
[25:48] Speaker 7: Bye.

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.