# Interview: Design Systems and DevOps with Marko Klemetti, Eficode

An episode of [DevOps Sauna from Eficode](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474935327), 30 Oct 2020, 50 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2246063/episodes/13576345-interview-design-systems-and-devops-with-marko-klemetti-eficode.mp3

Send us Fan Mail In the DevOps 2020 event, Eficode’s CTO Marko Klemetti talked about improving DevOps capabilities. In this talk, Marko referred to the “design system”, stating that “design system is the voice and identity of an organization, but also a set of styles that represent that organization.”In this episode, we discuss in more detail the connection between design systems and DevOps. According to Marko, organizations should “connect all of your DevOps practices and tools into the design system.”Useful references about the subject:-How does UXDX break down development / design / research barriers?: https://hubs.ly/H0yRwhb0-Design system example on github: https://github.com/eficode/design-system-example-Vaisala’s new Design System:https://hubs.ly/H0yRwyd0-DPB Toolkit: https://hubs.ly/H0yRzYG0-Elisa style book: https://stylebook.elisa.fi/-The Australian Government Design System: https://designsystem.gov.au/

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