# Interview: Remote-first DevOps with Brendan O'Leary, GitLab

An episode of [DevOps Sauna from Eficode](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474935327), 4 Nov 2020, 54 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2246063/episodes/13576344-interview-remote-first-devops-with-brendan-o-leary-gitlab.mp3

Send us Fan Mail During the COVID-19 outbreak and the following pandemic, many organizations were forced to transition to the remote mode. In the DevOps arena, GitLab is an organization that has decided to be all-remote, always. They also actively share information not only about their strategy, direction and metrics, but also their approach to organizing as an all-remote company.Brendan O’Leary from GitLab joins us to talk about the connection between all-remote work, and remote-first DevOps. Because we believe that DevOps starts already from the business validation and design thinking, we invited Mervi Rauhala to share her experiences transitioning business and service design from co-located practices to remote.Relevant content (needs UTM tracking):- GitLab's public handbook: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/- GitLab's 2020 Remote Work Report: https://about.gitlab.com/remote-work-report/- GitLab's All-remote playbook: https://about.gitlab.com/company/culture/all-remote/- The Digital Product Building (DPB) Toolkit: https://hubs.ly/H0zdWgl0- 5 tips for a great remote workshop, by Mervi Rauhala : https://hubs.ly/H0zdVS50- Remote work - Tales and tips of an adept, by Boris Schulz: https://hubs.ly/H0zdWls0

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