# Sauna session:The importance of organizational stretching with Irina Nordström and Arto Kiiskinen

An episode of [DevOps Sauna from Eficode](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474935327), 11 Nov 2021, 57 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2246063/episodes/13576302-sauna-session-the-importance-of-organizational-stretching-with-irina-nordstrom-and-arto-kiiskinen.mp3

Send us Fan Mail If we don't stretch, we become more inflexible. The same applies to all organizations. To stay flexible and agile, organizations need to stretch too.How flexible are you? How flexible is your organization? How to keep your company flexible too?What is the connection between stretching and organizational stretching?Related content:Blog: Why it's difficult to focus on business valuehttps://hubs.li/H0-_D6r0Find new flexible colleagues and become a flexible expert yourself at https://hubs.li/H0-_DHf0Speakers in the episode:Marc DillonLead Consultant, Eficodehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-dillon-70709137/Irina NordströmHead of people operations, EficodeGroup exercise instructor, Elixiahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/irina-nordström-2797737/Arto KiiskinenAgile coach trainer, EficodeProduct ownership aficionadohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/arto-kiiskinen-a98611/

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