# Coffee, cookies, and platforms: How to make developers love your platform

An episode of [DevOps Sauna from Eficode](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474935327), 7 Nov 2025, 26 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2246063/episodes/18143327-coffee-cookies-and-platforms-how-to-make-developers-love-your-platform.mp3

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Pinja and Stefan talk about what truly makes a developer platform successful—and why forcing adoption never works. They explore the “coffee and cookie principle,” the importance of trust between developers and platform teams, and how to create platforms people actually want to use. Topics include building developer trust, identifying platform ambassadors, balancing freedom and governance, and strengthening collaboration across teams. Whether you’re building your first internal platform or refining an existing one, this episode offers practical insights and real-world stories from the field of platform engineering.

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