# Interview: A journey to R&D Effectiveness with Perttu Nihti, Basware

An episode of [DevOps Sauna from Eficode](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474935327), 1 Feb 2022, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2246063/episodes/13576290-interview-a-journey-to-r-d-effectiveness-with-perttu-nihti-basware.mp3

Send us Fan Mail When R&D isn’t the bottleneck, we may run into a risk of filling in the system with “something”. Perttu Nihti from Basware and Markku Nurmela from Eficode join us to discuss the journey to R&D, how to look at effectiveness from the customer value perspective.Perttu Nihti, Baswarehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/perttu-nihti-44529/Markku Nurmela, Eficodehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/markkunurmela/Related links:-The effects of remote work on collaboration among information workers: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-021-01196-4-The Three-portfolio model guide: https://hubs.li/Q012D5Pv0-Agile training at Eficode: https://hubs.li/Q012D5T20-DevOps transformation: https://hubs.li/Q012D63Z0-Eficode ROOT: https://hubs.li/Q012D68j0

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