# 210 - Un Gozo Ordenado \[ft. Margarita Heinsen\]

An episode of [El Club de las 4AM](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1474473624), 25 Mar 2024, 1 h 06 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59158923/club_4am_margarita.mp3

Ya casi llega el verano, ujum. Hoy hablamos con Margarita Heinsen de My Summer Camp, entre cuentos, risas y testimonios nos damos cuenta de la importancia de que los niños se diviertan, pero tambien la importancia de que sea con orden. Quédate con nosotras.

## Transcript

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[0:10] a quicker and check it out It' s almost summertime. We talked to
[0:16] Margarita Hanstein Themy Summer Camp today. Stay with us welcome to the south of
[0:29] the four to more, where we speak to the beautiful, the politically not
[0:32] so correct, of the motherhood of this, on this side, Amber Moon,
[0:36] mother of the two most agreeable hemits of the face of the earth,
[0:39] manteo Joseph of six and my Lukie, who almost fulfills two. Oh,
[0:43] gentlemen, you know I just realized that I think I' m going to
[0:47] create a gray birthday for you like count yourself. I thought I' m
[0:50] gonna tell you that I' m gonna want a non- total third party.
[0:53] I don' t want someone to have it for me to lend it
[0:56] to me. I only raise until the year. He spends the year.
[0:58] I' m pro- grinch that I' m raising a greste or birthday.
[1:02] He doesn' t like them. It' s not like her birthday
[1:03] ' s going down with poor Santa Week. I can' t celebrate.
[1:08] That' s how I turned out in the summer and like no one was
[1:11] ever here. It was just like my 25th birthday in January. That is,
[1:15] why Jun Pablo Duarte came up with the sene was then full of me,
[1:19] I am, I am not born before the birth of the Dominican Republic.
[1:25] For those of you who listen to us out there, gentlemen, he
[1:29] always said a long weekend, there' s always something or there was a
[1:33] school exam out there, so it looks like it' s the birthday grand
[1:36] in me. That' s why it also seems I don' t like
[1:38] it on the other birthday less I like it more complete. So because it
[1:38] was always my turn to kill me only one when I came to school and
[1:44] came the year that they were in October and arrived and we cy I said,
[1:48] but I believe that n August neither were anything. But nothing. Yeah,
[1:52] we' re here, we' re surviving up to two thousand twenty
[1:57] - four, which at least for me comes snatching. WAW Gentlemen, it
[2:00] means it' s going from here on out. Good things can only happen,
[2:05] my love, but don' t cost me so much. I know
[2:08] God chooses his best warriors, but dad' s, I want to stop
[2:13] being your best warrior for a small time. Nothing more. I mean,
[2:17] I want to be the one who passes, but the race and give it
[2:20] to him, let' s go and you can the water guy. I
[2:23] want to be me. If you want the water grol, yes, totally
[2:25] for nothing. We' re here, we' re going to be living
[2:29] two thousand twenty- four. But like my battle phrase this year, Dad
[2:31] God I tried it was and God is good all the time. Although I
[2:37] find it hard to see myself telling my friend, but I say he'
[2:38] s good all the time. Everything. He' s good all the time.
[2:40] That' s right, and nothing to my right. I have a
[2:45] term for you which the creator of Granny Chick, of the Luck of Abuelita
[2:53] ching Ok Tal and I had an argument that mónica, the only people who
[2:55] want to get into granddad and look cute with all the rda things if she
[3:00] moves it, but yes no, thanks for the big one, for Shick
[3:05] ' s thing, it' s true. I love dressing like a grandmother.
[3:07] I don' t know why, but I feel confident about myself.
[3:10] Oh yeah, for or that looks nice to you with your croche stuff and
[3:14] croissants don' t sect looks pretty, but I' m not going to
[3:19] see that. Thanks for telling me that I look pretty, but I love
[3:22] it, that' s me black this week that you got on a star
[3:24] Wow. That' s beautiful. He was not very leather one what.
[3:27] Yeah, yeah, she was navy blue, but she looks black. She
[3:30] ' s very cute, but that' s not so granny. Maybe grney
[3:31] poquey long, I don' t know, but I love beautiful. Oh,
[3:35] Jesus, if he' s gone for my husband, I' m
[3:38] out of my way for anybody' s hello. I' m Monica,
[3:42] I' m Millie Gale Lucas' mom, nine seven and five years old,
[3:46] three guys who have me very in love, very poor, but the
[3:51] truth is that Wow sometimes I want to put him in a food app without
[3:58] mandalo by lailivery you mambray don' t have for the precious of nothing.
[4:01] Yeah, even if it' s like for a few months or for two
[4:06] days, because I kept it from my polar, then what pot counts does
[4:11] they sleep and I' m saying that watching pictures of them, I said
[4:13] ay, look what ay and me did, but who I understand, I
[4:15] ' m all crazy, why they ran out. I do morning events,
[4:18] I remember late, I lay down very late, I feel them. I
[4:21] say, oh, I don' t need my boy and I start and
[4:24] I don' t sleep at all, but I need my boys. Yeah,
[4:27] I need it a lot and it passes very fast from this stage.
[4:30] I don' t like sleeping alone towards my boys who curl up and kiss
[4:32] me at night, if I do, there' s a travel tape.
[4:35] Done it and they sleep like sleeping with my kids. My thing d are
[4:39] sleeping with me now that I' ve never noticed here and then yesterday it
[4:43] was Luca' s turn, I heard Galo tomorrow to Milo and so happy.
[4:46] But before we get into it, someone' s got in on it.
[4:53] I mean I said I loved it on the lomel see N two thousand
[4:57] twenty- four. I think that was your my lot of truth, gentlemen,
[5:00] my twenty- four is doing a lot for me, a lot,
[5:04] a lot, a lot, but a lot of people and I don'
[5:06] t know how. I really don' t know how I can do so
[5:09] much. At the same time, not without help either. In my house
[5:12] with my daughters. You got him help, not zero, yeah, rian
[5:17] nazin nothing. But I see so many things and really, really, although
[5:23] everyone fights me there, it makes me like my ambushes that gives me an
[5:26] anxiety with whom I leave my children. Yes, I, I really prefer
[5:30] that someone be very confident, gentlemen, leaving my children with people is also
[5:33] very difficult, really, very difficult. And I imagine the thing that'
[5:38] s going on is that I degrade my life with someone who does something to
[5:41] me. Not sure, it' s not that really, really, really,
[5:44] and I' m telling you that I have a lot of group that
[5:46] tell me no because you need an assistant. Gentlemen, I can' t.
[5:48] Really. Those are the things in the background. It' s you
[5:51] who can have an assistant to help you with your stuff. Yeah, but
[5:56] it' s also not, but you have to look around because you don
[5:59] ' t, that I' ve had very good. I had a week
[6:03] Patricia that I love her with Locury Lame because the only people that I can
[6:08] say I was misconnecting. But then that' s something that maybe I wanted
[6:13] also in the twenty- four thousand, or maybe it doesn' t stop
[6:15] that really ja me, yes, I understand you, I can' t,
[6:17] it can' t. It took me a long time to trust and
[6:21] thank God, I already have as my fixed people who love me and are
[6:26] family, part of our family, but I understand you, I support you
[6:32] and you don' t judge me or thank you. But yes, that
[6:35] may be like me so trunda of two thousand twenty- four, but it
[6:39] is that really, gentlemen, I don' t know if you happen the
[6:42] same, it costs me, it costs me, I don' t know
[6:45] it made me have a trauma, I may have to deal with a trapeto
[6:47] or something, but that might have it. I' ll make it easier
[6:51] for you to really get anxiety levels. I James, children, any people
[6:55] I hello, Margarita hello. I' m seeing that here like listening,
[7:00] don' t define it. She tells me that identifying myself, I have
[7:05] one of my daughters who fulfills the two of enro giving no one here could
[7:10] not celebrate you in formal that we were looking for him and everyone I have
[7:14] today the two of January, not serious and she always suffers two of January.
[7:18] Why everyone on the trip isn' t in school, nobody' s
[7:21] in anything, that' s everybody disconnected from vacation and in oh Ya and
[7:26] pot. I didn' t want to teach so many celebrations. That'
[7:31] s right, Fina. Gentlemen, today I bring you a very special person
[7:34] for me and my house. The only people I know who take out the
[7:39] game I kill that very few people are my dearest doña, Margarita. Don
[7:45] ' t call me doña, and see look sorry. I' m gonna
[7:47] do the same general' s belt. I' m going to r 150
[7:51] this year, two thousand twenty- four, but I feel very young because
[7:57] old age doesn' t get the age so that you don' t not
[8:01] have to recognize that if you didn' t know, with whom we talked
[8:05] is Margarita Hensen, that for me there are a lot of issues that have
[8:11] to do with education. She has one of the She is the creator of
[8:16] didactics. It has a program that I really like, which has to do
[8:18] with self- esteem and a children' s right called Construyo. I met
[8:24] him at school, my Aunt Josefina. She tells me wonders about you and
[8:30] Margarita is an eminence in education and in many subjects and has one of the
[8:33] coolest camps in the world. If I really kill they love him and they
[8:37] ' re the only people who let me that he can' t even with
[8:41] his life, not the world that' s been through mace amer camp just
[8:46] talks wonders. So, that' s precisely why we invite you, Margarita,
[8:50] because we want to talk about the children and the camps. But let
[8:54] ' s take advantage, let' s talk about a lot of things,
[8:56] because you have to take advantage of that you love yourself, you have to
[9:03] or and Margarita from the people that I love like she lives the children and
[9:05] understands them. I spoke recently about how difficult it has been for me.
[9:09] He' s talked to you about killing is a child, what he thinks
[9:13] is different. So there' s teaching, there' s camp that can
[9:16] ' t stand a child who' s hyperactive, who' s got a
[9:22] lot of energy and sometimes has a hard time setting the rules, not because
[9:24] they don' t want to, but because it really costs them. Then
[9:26] I think we' ll talk about how many kids I' ve had.
[9:28] How many things have I had, how do you have that patience and that
[9:35] love, because I am not me, but there comes a point where,
[9:37] at least I say, I ask the teachers and you want to have child
[9:41] of can to How do you want to have child of may not? And
[9:43] I think of all mothers, it can pandemic you. We realized that the
[9:46] great work that teachers do and how badly paid the teacher has to have,
[9:50] anything they pay her is a clarification of what they could gain. It'
[9:54] s not a job, there' s no way and it really has a
[10:00] lot of implications, but thank you for inviting me. I feel happy.
[10:01] It' s good to share with you a theme that I' m passionate
[10:03] about. In a thousand nine hundred and ninety- four it was my first
[10:07] camp. It wasn' t my Sammer camp, I mean, I was
[10:11] very young. I didn' t calculate a baby a baby, but at
[10:13] that time there wasn' t, there wasn' t so many schools and
[10:18] so many options. We' re talking 30 years ago, so I'
[10:20] m doing thirty years of organizing my own field, or I' m a
[10:24] chiquitica. Yes, or no? Don' t you? Don' t
[10:26] you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t
[10:26] you? Don' t you? Of course, then they are an older
[10:30] one has twenty- three exact, that is, yes, of course I
[10:33] married young too then all very young, I know I say, but beware
[10:37] if I thought this was going to end the world, because they say many
[10:39] things as very young really and I do not regret it, but I took
[10:46] advantage of all the opportunities and in thirty years camping, organizing camps. You
[10:50] really see everything. And one thing I always say in staff training is that
[10:54] everything is very fast, because you get kids from different places that have to
[11:00] adapt yes or yes in a day or so it' s not like school
[11:05] not that you have a structure in the house. It' s your own
[11:09] group, and it' s a whole year, a school year, and
[11:13] the next year, though they change each other. But this is how u
[11:18] comes a noodles and intense ages, and the truth is that it' s
[11:24] a chaotically fun fun fun fun experience. But we always have a motto and
[11:30] I really want to say it because I, as an educator, love fun,
[11:33] but the fun with order and I really care a lot like that safe
[11:39] space, that space sometimes has some implications. I have a management team,
[11:43] coordination team that we are. I mean, there was once a mom told
[11:46] me, but I saw you on that side and in a second. Now
[11:50] I see you on the other side, but it' s just that you
[11:54] ' re repeating yourself to copy you out and I see a mind for so
[11:58] many details with so many kids and the truth is that I, I mean,
[12:01] we' re moving all the time. I go down that' s
[12:05] a positive thing, because this one that gives a hormito to everything that'
[12:09] s going on, because it' s intense, it' s fast,
[12:13] a camp, it' s a totally different experience and the truth is that
[12:20] every child brings their expectations, because obviously, some come as a little bit
[12:22] of fear. Many moms sign up as friends groups and I it' s
[12:26] fine, so they can be together. I' m happy. We are
[12:28] very flexible in that sense, because it is a summer experience to be happy,
[12:33] to have fun. I' m not going to put like this kind
[12:35] of rules that don' t make sense, don' t make sense.
[12:39] You want me to be with the little friends That makes it easier to adapt.
[12:41] But, Mom Dad, a cool thing about camping is to meet a
[12:46] new friend. That' s so cool. That is, it serves to
[12:52] socialize, to open your sieges so networking on big that we had in the
[12:56] camp. And the truth is that I also invite you to open up,
[13:01] because if you continue with your own little group, of course adaptation helps you.
[13:05] But you' re missing out on new friends, new families, sharing,
[13:11] and that develops a lot of skills, you mention my dear mateo.
[13:16] And the truth is that we are very aware that children really adapt to the
[13:24] structure, are happy, with some flexibility. But, as I say,
[13:31] in order, I mean, we' re going to have fun. I
[13:33] think I' m Milagro' s daughter, who was my mom. He
[13:39] ' s a pianist, an artist, but a very orderly woman. Then
[13:41] that also gives security, because a child who comes, for example, to
[13:45] me, a friend of mine, tells me a story and tells me I
[13:46] put my child in a camp and left him at nine and at four I
[13:52] was still ah not that he wanted to stay in. No, I mean,
[13:56] no, no. And but they need, want, demand and benefit
[14:03] from the te structure. But it' s not clear and look what he
[14:09] ' s pulling. Not above all this that you are saying that because they
[14:13] are summer activities, they are risks different from a school, they are totally
[14:20] pine responsibilities. Yeah, thanks, because, for example, I take a
[14:24] kid with a pool, I go crazy. So how' s the daisy
[14:28] process of setting up a camp? I' m good, I love it,
[14:31] kid, everybody can set up a camp. Everybody gives for the good
[14:35] bells. I tell you that the camps have multiplied or as if by the
[14:41] amount of or I have seen thirty years of evolution, evolution and that we
[14:46] have maintained, that is, in a firm and constant way. There is
[14:50] everything that is, and there is for all tastes and how good and how
[14:54] good there is for all options, for all interests, for all realities,
[14:58] as well as for schools. Many schools have emerged that if schools in bilingual
[15:03] Spanish, that have a more tendency to sport, then you can choose.
[15:09] And that I believe very much in meeting ours. I made a guide to
[15:13] school selection that has been very famous. A lot of parents call me wow.
[15:16] It has helped me, but it is not a guide that has school
[15:18] names, but a guide that gives guidelines for a couple or in case you
[15:24] don' t have a great partner, you, like mom, can make
[15:26] that decision, then how you make a choice, whether it' s a
[15:30] school or a camp that I' m going to tell you one thing.
[15:33] It is a decision, as I say in that guide, of course in
[15:35] that case it is for school, but it is a very important decision,
[15:39] very because there is your son, your daughter a time to sixteen, a
[15:46] valuable time in which it will develop, in which it will interact with people
[15:50] that is you have to see many factors, many elements, and so in
[15:52] the camp. I say well, if you ask me a prno sonas responsible,
[16:00] especially responsible and who understands what it means to organize a camp, because
[16:07] I tell you the pimping, the fun, of course, but it has
[16:11] some implications and we have to be careful, because really more and more there
[16:19] is one and this I will say no for but I have noticed how in
[16:22] the years there are more like that families, parents, people in general.
[16:30] I don' t know if after the covid we' re also more defensive,
[16:33] as mass, as more sensitive. And you know how to be very
[16:41] careful, because the most valuable thing for a mom or dad is his son.
[16:45] Yeah, and I' m gonna tell you one thing. Thank God,
[16:47] 30 years have passed us very few things, very few things told two
[16:52] things that really in thirty years yes, but things can happen. I mean,
[16:56] we' re tested, and that means, I don' t have
[17:00] to be alive, but me being alive in this one, you can stumble,
[17:04] you can fall there. I don' t know who it was that
[17:06] told me no, but so the clinic what goes on his own foot and
[17:07] me. But I mean, things can happen. Look and in that sense
[17:11] and done, you' re in. One believes that the whole structure,
[17:15] one creates has a staff, please, trained, is above all, because
[17:21] it is not easy to ensure that the environment is most appropriate and safe.
[17:27] Well, yes, but now it may be as bad as you can.
[17:30] But of course things can be more dog than camp. Remember that more in
[17:33] a classroom. I' m sitting in the yard here, not honestly,
[17:38] me as a mom. Seeing me as a mom, I don' t
[17:42] know if I know my way of being a mom or whatever, but I
[17:45] like that they fall. I like that they stumble, that they climb in
[17:47] the trees, that is that I go to look for him and have his
[17:51] knees. I don' t know what I mean I love it. I
[17:53] ' m that guy Look, I' m gonna put a hundred on you.
[17:56] I love that either I' ve put you in a bubble all the
[18:02] time and in that I think it' s like there' s a new
[18:04] generation that are kind of tense. With those gentlemen, life is not roses.
[18:08] The world isn' t going to be perfect. They' re not
[18:11] gonna have what the nine children want It' s a bad thing you'
[18:15] re doing, so let' s stop. I brought a specialist a few
[18:18] years ago and he said we' re creating like it was, like with
[18:22] quilts, like the quilt walls, like it was. And I don'
[18:26] t and we' re creating quilts for the kids and I don' t
[18:29] mean, you' re playing with the swing and the other shot. The
[18:30] swing may be given, is that it falls that clear within the margins truth
[18:34] that it is nothing, that nothing dangerous, nothing in truth. But there
[18:40] are things against his life. But I do think it has to be very
[18:44] responsible that you take risks. I always say and the more the years go
[18:49] by, because I was very young with my first camp, God has always
[18:53] been there with me looking after me, protecting me. In fact, I
[18:56] asked a good one for a video She' s already a woman with two
[19:00] children who lives outside and was one of my first campers. Imagine yourself in
[19:03] the nineties and I think it was the same ninety- four ninety- five
[19:07] and she was a little girl, and I asked her for a little video
[19:11] of what she remembers from camp, from those first years we camped. But
[19:15] the truth is, it involves a risk because you' re taking on a
[19:18] lot of kids. For example, we manage two hundred and peaks of children
[19:23] in different weeks, that is also another factor that the lodge is not the
[19:30] two hundred and peaks of children that keep five weeks fixed, but they vary
[19:33] that you receive a new child that integrates, that is to say there is
[19:37] a whole process, then you have to be very alert because yes, that
[19:42] is, and select that staff also because you look. I' ll give
[19:45] you the example of AMATEU' s first camp. She was a teacher,
[19:48] she was very correct, very she was very structured last year' s Mateo
[19:52] who loves it, who rubs it in the feleze fo with which to give
[19:55] affection she would go and sit down and she hugged him. And every child
[19:59] has different needs and I loved it and I mention it because I liked the
[20:03] chemistry so much it is. I forgot her name, that she or how
[20:07] I kill, and it was one thing that I found it so nice to
[20:11] see how a child gets happy to a camp and you get the tencility that
[20:18] you have. I' m fighting because he loves us, too, and
[20:23] that means he likes it. In the first year with mateo if I had
[20:26] an accident, because he is so calm and so peaceful that he hurt a
[20:30] tooth with a jam fire at the moment. Yeah, it was at the
[20:33] camp. It was an accident and I' m a very quiet mom.
[20:36] She' s crying. I didn' t take him where the dentist worried
[20:40] me a little bit, but I said that a day earlier. Nothing is
[20:41] going to happen, but he was fighting me because he didn' t want
[20:45] to take the license the dentist sent him, because he wanted to go to
[20:47] his campamenti. He was missing out. Siince weeks the camp, then what
[20:49] does it tell you there that they are loved and they are lords. Kids
[20:52] are always gonna tell the truth. If they don' t like it,
[20:56] they' ll tell you. Yes, sir Shame on you. I spent
[20:57] with my son the other day I used to. On Saturday, I took
[21:00] it as a place where I so outdoors, so cool, they have trees.
[21:07] I don' t know what, but my kids are a little bit
[21:11] bigger than the kid group that was there, but I saw it as really
[21:15] cool, I mean, they make it like mud soup. I don'
[21:17] t know what that kind of thing and I' m taking them on Saturday
[21:22] and Mommy' s looking for them, and Mommy' s super correct,
[21:26] I mean, you know she really gave him everything. When I see him
[21:27] look no, no, no, and it looks like Milo and Luca the
[21:33] big one and the little boy loved the camp. The best thing is to
[21:34] grab it. He also loved the camp, but he, like at that
[21:37] time said that in front of the teacher or the owner of the place,
[21:41] how boring. This was so boring ahead of her already and Mommy already,
[21:48] you know Mommy and call me Monica. You have to talk seriously to a
[21:52] gallop and I, well, no, no, I don' t make
[21:56] a shame out of it, what happened. And Mommy, like she'
[21:59] s the poor one, there' s a boy. I imagine, wrong
[22:02] sperm, no, Mommy, you would get on, but there may be
[22:04] camps that are very active for children, who are quiet or not very quiet
[22:08] camp for boy who is man. And I see what happened. No,
[22:11] the thing is, I thought they weren' t gonna take another place and
[22:14] they didn' t take it, but it was so cool. I want
[22:18] to come back next Saturday and I, but why could it be you played
[22:22] a theme Realme I have been so embarrassed by Mom, I have an expectation.
[22:26] There the child has another totally different expectation to camp OK. But you
[22:30] can tell me secretly because you don' t know and until I didn'
[22:33] t see it I didn' t see it right now myself, but she
[22:37] ' s seven years old. You don' t understand me, like you
[22:38] haven' t developed to seven yet. I' m just gonna tell you
[22:42] one thing, too. I' ve noticed that kids, when it comes
[22:45] to their fun, are pretty critical and you can tell him an o.
[22:48] Yeah, all that and until I live it, they' re not gonna
[22:49] tell you. It doesn' t terrify me much, no, but definitely,
[22:53] meeting your son is very important, because there are children. I know,
[22:56] I wrote an article once that not all schools are for all children and
[23:00] papably and I say it we have parents who have an eagerness to enter their
[23:04] child to x center or x camp for the wrong reason, by so own,
[23:10] because they are with the children of friends, because I have to pause
[23:14] and see what my son really likes, because that is to say I have
[23:21] to consider it, because if it is not really going to be miserable or
[23:23] it is in a place where he may not adapt or go according to his
[23:27] temperament, to his reality, his abilities, to his inclinations, then we
[23:33] have to be very careful, for example, at camp level. For me,
[23:38] the more variety you have or include, the more you respond to diversity,
[23:45] because sometimes it can be a camp that is alone. For example,
[23:48] now that it' s fashionable if programming or only sports camp. Of course,
[23:53] there are children who have a very definite inclination and you say you are
[23:56] going to be happy, but just like a single life Maybe it limits a
[24:03] little period, which is cool as well as trying to do different things,
[24:07] just as camps are not going to feel like camping, like an extraterrestrial activity,
[24:14] but in the variety I think they contribute a lot, because in that
[24:19] sense children try different activities. For example, we included in the camp.
[24:22] I' m always trying to innovate Well, once that' s what I
[24:27] wanted to tell you. Yeah, that' s me, you guys are
[24:32] asking me squeaky. In these thirty years I have offered everything since yoga here
[24:34] Poeira, Cross has been the evolution of Mins summert us every year, I
[24:38] wonder what I can, that is, how I can innovate and expose the
[24:44] children. For example, I was caught now, in the two thousand twenty
[24:45] - three with the biggest little ones they wanted, because that was as an
[24:49] optional medium towards origami and I asked for all my origami kit. I love
[24:55] it and I ordered all my origam kit. And because I used to say
[24:56] that already the children with the topic of the technological positive phones, of the
[25:03] ay pati all that, like that command to fold paper that develop very much
[25:11] the fine motor, but also the concentration. Then I had in one of
[25:15] the groups, a Japanese and when I brought my kit because I was going
[25:18] to visit a great ay my love, he took that role and taught the
[25:25] others, that is, as well as through different activities even children who are
[25:29] quiet that maybe even by culture, can develop their leadership. I stayed I
[25:36] ' ll go see him, because he made it out of a pit.
[25:37] You can tell that I' m practicing and happy, and you saw it
[25:44] We' ll go next, and the others will follow him. So I
[25:45] kind of expose the kids to different truth activities that give you a really cool
[25:48] wealth. So I' ve been through everything a little bit, I'
[25:52] m telling you that that year of capoida, the mid- year coordinators,
[25:59] where you came from, what you were so hot about, yes, it
[26:02] was a brazilian and chuspalean, but I don' t think that' s
[26:02] anything. The Brazilian and us with our capoe classes and a lot of that
[26:07] is deadly, so in that sense there is a whole culture yes of pimp,
[26:11] culture with tasty yes and trying to innovate and to see what works and
[26:18] what doesn' t work. Because you know there are times when there'
[26:21] s activity that like not you don' t imagine or exactly sometimes you have
[26:25] an idea, you imagine like you' re going to a success and then
[26:27] the kids also like to or you know that I added, we added caating
[26:33] with a very good Cuban. She' s become very famous. In fact,
[26:37] she' s got like a afternoon program, skateboarding, and we added
[26:44] it like two years ago for those who stay until the afternoon, that is,
[26:45] in the one in the one you take for yourself, not your bike,
[26:48] you take your skateboard and she teaches for strip, but cool, I
[26:52] mean, she teaches skate because we were going. Okay. I don'
[26:55] t know if you guys, but I' ll know if we' re
[26:59] clear, of course, I' m celebrating birthdays in the world. One
[27:00] s fell on that couple. I don' t know how. No.
[27:07] We weren' t going for the vetaro. It was through a lot of
[27:08] law and a lot of people broke their real hand, the boat and other
[27:12] things that the pia to ska thing because we jumped ah, yeah, I
[27:18] had to make all those people that you said gap or s or you don
[27:22] ' t remember that you took a chin of bulls. Sure, uh,
[27:26] yeah, sure, sense experiment. Margarita, how you do the selection of
[27:32] activities, because you have a fairly wide range of age and what a child
[27:36] likes I think you start from two or two years of what you both like,
[27:38] what you like wishes what you already like a tree hing is very different.
[27:45] In fact, there was a group that last year made an intense request
[27:51] for us to open up a next group of bigger children, but until they
[27:56] reached twelve. But that really already has some people, that means thirteen two
[28:00] have them made team and we already said so. They named the new group,
[28:08] that group my love, and they assumed that we would move this group
[28:12] that they want to follow, because we have to camperse, that have literally
[28:15] lasted all my life and I already have even children of former campers and families
[28:21] that have been champions or we already have as generational is very cool. Imagine
[28:26] that the previous year I think it was we hired a very hot doctor.
[28:30] Well, now it' s going to be her tender specialty and suddenly she
[28:33] tells me I was a champion. I' m what. And I took
[28:37] a picture of my doctor was camper. We hired her and she really gave
[28:41] me I was camper. I remember that the truth is very good. It
[28:45] ' s very nice to see you already as those generations that have passed and
[28:51] you being when I had cheli people like that, you don' t negotiate,
[28:55] you can' t describe. Imagine that I hired one to, a
[28:56] young woman who worked with me in passing as did her internship in didactics and
[29:02] she hired me to manage the networks of how I have to put these you
[29:06] know, why don' t you lend now. Very difficult. Yeah,
[29:08] we' re gonna get to go after us. But it' s hard
[29:15] to say that the contract, because Patricia worked with me, did her internship
[29:18] and studied on a level and knew her. I mean, she' s
[29:21] got her company. I' m going to pretend that Alejandro said, free
[29:25] wedge, that it' s called the fish tank and then I say ay
[29:29] Patricia, mom and the there we' re going to meet my partner.
[29:30] And when we meet, the partner says everything in my over fits now and
[29:33] you don' t and I don' t. But then I get really
[29:37] excited that when I see kids already, so they' re already home Works,
[29:41] they' re your kids, yeah, they' re cool, they
[29:45] ' re always gonna be your girls. Very nice. It' s very
[29:45] nice experience and moms who write to me for example, today I wrote a
[29:48] mom look, my big son was with you, but now I want to
[29:52] take you to the two little guys and like families come back, which makes
[29:56] me kill or be big for you to go to camp. Oh, of
[29:57] course it' s h- day and I' m sure it' s
[30:00] there. They do have to say good. That was a friend. They
[30:03] didn' t send me to comatillo. He doesn' t walk with my
[30:07] mom. My aunt had a camp. When we were little, it was
[30:12] called" explorar bueno el año". Ida the sister, another sister of
[30:15] my mom, and that was like, they sent us sticks, piles,
[30:18] Chume. The best memories I have of Chiquita was already in the piles.
[30:23] We slept at the campaign house. We don' t bathe without it being
[30:26] a good experience. My crazy ann forgetble submerge or unforgettable experiences or really never
[30:30] are things that I will never forget the knockout with hammer here in a version
[30:34] for adults, we could if you prepare there, yes, of course,
[30:41] to heal those wounds to my sister planted Baiguate to me never to anything things
[30:45] are coming out here that are seeing things saved, as my husband says sometimes
[30:51] that you had his guard of Claro out there, sir that in the camps
[30:53] are an experience of truly unforgettable. Me that I was going to Andrea,
[31:02] me alone or one thing. My husband' s getting cold, Julie in
[31:11] a jarabacoa was giving me a breakfast that was a richer butter and hot chocolate.
[31:18] In my camps, where we learned English, my mom sent us to
[31:26] study myself and I was leaving Lady all camps outside and it' s different
[31:30] because I learned many things one and learned economics because I had to run it
[31:38] during those weeks. What you believe all summer. I never did. I
[31:41] never fell on the same level with Cristal, never that is me in those
[31:45] camps when you' re out and we don' t live together, that
[31:51] being independent autonomous, is that we didn' t see each other, because
[31:53] we couldn' t. We were in different groups, in different rooms,
[31:56] that is, we rarely saw each other. And gene independence creates for me
[32:01] an impressive thing. We weren' t going to buy. My friends came
[32:05] in with two fontes and I came in with a set of seven so fran
[32:07] and I tried to get to the camp that let me see that you mentioned
[32:12] that from there, but look amber mensioned the cadillos. It' s amazing.
[32:15] That was an innovation we made several years ago and that has become the
[32:17] activity expected by the children of six who are two six, that is,
[32:23] they have tasted that grain of innovations, because we have the cadillos. It
[32:28] is ours, that is, it is a space where you move in your
[32:30] activity and where we also go on weekends to unscramble the name cabillo, disconnect
[32:34] from the city I tell you that we get there and that was Monte we
[32:37] are no longer tes are with a cadillo. No. I' m not
[32:42] sure you ever see what your life knows about me. Yeah, they really
[32:45] know. I' m Sabel and I' m telling you because of her
[32:49] average. Yes, we came out full of cadillos, the first time we
[32:52] went to the cadilla and from there, we put that name on it.
[32:54] And that has become a moment, in a day, because we take a
[32:58] walk to the cadillos for the day. And my daughter, who' s
[33:02] a psychologist, is two years old already camping for two weeks in the cadillos
[33:07] with sleepers cli, that is, she' s Clippoway Camp. And this
[33:08] year what we' re going to do is that from that gives that is
[33:12] from eight years, then what we' re going to do. There I
[33:15] ' m missing two t I' m going this year, that we'
[33:19] re mooring the five weeks of miy Sammer Camp and the children from eight to
[33:22] twelve who want to continue with that experience. Attention to the group that wanted
[33:27] to make revolution. With that slippo way experience they leave two more weeks,
[33:31] because the truth is that schools eating are two or more weeks later. But
[33:36] Chulo that very chilies that are, that is, it is a small camp,
[33:39] that is to say it is very personalized. And many moms tell me
[33:44] look is up to Chulo for a first experience before launching it, for example
[33:46] i wan You such as that it is a first experience more very personalized and
[33:52] is very cool. Then come on, let' s innovate, let'
[33:57] s see what the audience wants. My camp until the other day, that
[33:59] is until recently before the pandemic, was until one o' clock. But
[34:02] we must also see what the trend is. That' s what you can
[34:08] understand and part of the move is a new place that we put to the
[34:15] facilities of St Joseph, because there I have a cafeteria with all the facilities,
[34:21] that is, a space that allows me to stay until four o'
[34:23] clock in the afternoon, that is, I think that also one is always
[34:27] mobilizing. I love that word. You move, you, you can'
[34:30] t keep any projects. In this case we are talking about summer, our
[34:34] children, the experiences they live and how we too can design experiences that really.
[34:39] I make a calendar, for example, for children from two to five
[34:42] years old, but I make a calendar for six to twelve years and we
[34:47] adapt, because every age has its reality, its interests, its tastes,
[34:52] its need for its characteristics. I think that for me something important and something
[34:57] that my aunt to Josefina, had a little discussion about the new motherhood and
[35:01] some things that she finds to be difficult, especially that right now she is
[35:06] already seeing, that there is a lot of motherhood that is adultcentric, where
[35:09] the adult is the center and the child sometimes gets complicated And, at least
[35:14] for me, my children are my priority. A camp where my children feel
[35:17] good, a school is where my children are the center. I' m
[35:22] sorry I' m going to be politically incorrect. You don' t talk
[35:27] to me about methodology that I use, what I use that, not what
[35:30] I tell you that you' re going to give to my son, because
[35:32] what matters to me is that my son is a conscious adult with tools for
[35:37] when they' re big. Because education methodology is very important. There are
[35:43] people who are extremely intelligent, but as a human being is left behind,
[35:46] then I am realizing that right now and we are seeing it in society,
[35:50] the human is being relegated a little bit. And what you' re saying
[35:55] about the need of your children, of the children, who go to camp.
[36:00] And it' s the priority, because in the end I think that
[36:02] I enjoy, yes, that they learn, that they have limits, but
[36:07] that they enjoy being a child and that they have and Kelly VI literally.
[36:08] Feels the difference in vacations and schools. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
[36:13] I have a facility and you go somewhere for a schedule, that Dad and
[36:16] Mom aren' t gonna be with you. But let him feel the difference
[36:20] between school and camp. I feel that, for example, my Missamer camp
[36:24] Uste have achieved a very good balance between fun and the part, as a
[36:30] good academic between quotation marks. Exactly, that' s exactly what pra is.
[36:35] It' s not from my literal field. I feel, that is,
[36:37] all the parents who have told me about the camp, that since they
[36:40] leave other children of my Samercamp I will always get another child, because it
[36:44] is true summer. You grow new experiences, and so on. But since
[36:46] there' s Ammer Camp, I feel like they come out like some sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
[36:51] sweet, sweet. It' s so cool,' cause it' s
[36:52] true Look at me the other day I ran into a mom. Many moms
[36:55] tell me that children spend the whole year talking and wanting to go back to
[36:59] camp. That' s my thermometer already. Nate as you say in the
[37:02] end the child I say the child has X ray. You get a kid.
[37:07] I always set the example in shawls and you hurt her and I love
[37:08] you. He knows if you want him. You can really be handing him
[37:10] over, I' m gonna be giving him kisses and I' m having
[37:14] lightning. Who knows and perceives if you are genuine, if you are.
[37:19] And truly we and I can tell you and those who work with me and
[37:22] those who work with me in coordination and the team, we look for the
[37:27] return of a boy in the sense that we look for him to turn around
[37:31] so that they really integrate. Enjoy clearly within the structure, because it is
[37:37] difficult for you to keep pace. You understand that, you have to enter
[37:39] the structure, but we look for a turn so that they are really part
[37:44] of an unforgettable experience and the teachers have to integrate as well. Okay.
[37:49] Casually, I want to even record a video about that because there' s
[37:52] a concern and I' m going to take advantage of this space because casually
[37:59] I' m looking forward to raising awareness about this. Teachers using cell phones
[38:01] in the educational space. I am taking advantage of this space because it arises
[38:07] now, but I come as wow, I have to make a conscience about
[38:10] this because in two days talking, I work a lot with schools and school
[38:15] principals, directors who, that is, with many topics, not others since
[38:17] didactics. We work in the educational field and I am very immersed as in
[38:22] all that and in the form in two days. I think that was last
[38:24] week and I told you, but take care of several directors who have nothing
[38:30] to do with each other as a message. Asking me about the situation with
[38:37] the use of cell phones and you can' t take a cell phone away.
[38:40] Let' s say in this case a teacher a major, of course,
[38:43] but you have to give the voice of alert because until that, for
[38:45] example, in a camp, a child is jumping on the trampoline. Gentlemen,
[38:49] the child is jumping on a trampoline, your eyes, your ears,
[38:52] everything has to be attentive. Not that I' m gonna tie up next
[38:57] to you holding your hand doesn' t jump on your trampoline, I mean,
[39:00] I give you freedom, but somehow I have to be very careful because
[39:04] you' re jumping I' m setting an example for you, or it
[39:07] ' s in a pool, or it' s like, I' m
[39:08] one that comes from the old lady. I count head. There are times
[39:10] I tell him I train, because never in life can you walk with a
[39:15] line of child. You looking forward. You looking at the pile, the
[39:17] bitter goose, look at the line. But these are little details that for
[39:22] me, obviously one has a trajectory, a formation. I' m in
[39:24] my field of education, but maybe new generation people, I mean, they
[39:30] ' re things like that. Sometimes I' ve sensed common sense. You
[39:31] go counting heads me in the pool, that I' m always good at,
[39:36] the pool as my place. I have as many people as I can
[39:38] stand for that and I look good in the pool in the pool of how
[39:42] many children are so tomorrow over or over again. You see me from one
[39:44] thing or another is telling my mom one that does. My mom says the
[39:49] kids throw one' s eyes out and I' m gonna make you an
[39:52] experience. I worked for a year and peak in a hotel in Babar an
[39:59] expensive tip. What an experience aha during a dress of everything. I was
[40:02] the manager of that chain' s children' s and teenagers' club,
[40:09] and in this chain, the kids' club opened at 8: 00 a
[40:13] m and closed at 12: 00 p m. Wow, eight to twelve.
[40:16] There are people who dare to stop that time not, but not the
[40:19] night. My love at seven not half and when we entered a child had
[40:24] soaked pear walks not crazy. Luckily, that much of what you know was
[40:30] us had a lot of activity or, but it' s a clear pimp
[40:34] and there are people who come and go and spend two and three months and
[40:37] one became like family of what child such clear mothers and there were some children
[40:40] that the dad was pilot and the mom told me look you have to be
[40:44] very careful, because he suffers from escaping, from escaping as we have had
[40:49] the case, a magician. We' ve had the case. We have
[40:52] an activity that I don' t know what. I regularly bought a rope
[40:55] from that clothesline and so I put them inside and my eyes hated with the
[41:00] rope and the teachers were grabbing the rope so they wouldn' t come out,
[41:05] but they were ours. But I was gentlemen, I could have a
[41:09] hundred kids at the club, I mean, it was a lot of my
[41:14] love to add to what happened to the capista, the scan. We'
[41:15] ve had the chapter literally, but a job that had several hotels together made
[41:22] me love he ran clear and no one noticed that he wasn' t there.
[41:25] So, when we realized, when he came in as security, no
[41:29] woe, but it was better where. They didn' t see me because
[41:31] he made me bury and color. You were exploring it yourself, but my
[41:35] mom and dad taught me that. I don' t know how to go
[41:37] back, I don' t know how to look for security, and he
[41:40] went where security was far away. But gone, I don' t know
[41:43] where I am. When I saw him and I got it all up,
[41:45] he got me down and I' ll give him the report and tell the
[41:49] dads. Yes, that happens constantly For us we taught him to look for
[41:52] a uniformed authority for glouder Wall already, but he learned it well at least,
[41:57] but don' t play too much of it. I don' t
[41:59] want to do anything that has cap with him. Not the truth that looks
[42:00] there sees says that one' s heart is put on, look what you
[42:04] believe and that you' re lost that you don' t know that you
[42:06] ' ve lost it. This is it. That' s even worse.
[42:08] I think that' s one of my poor fears. That misses me a
[42:10] very big chance. That thing you' re saying to yourself, it'
[42:15] s your head. That is another thing, for example, about technology now.
[42:17] In that sense, I think I' m like a mom, like
[42:21] a mix. For example, I don' t find out he takes out
[42:22] of school, they send me pictures of what my kids were doing. Invest
[42:24] that time in giving him activity and connecting with him. I' m not
[42:28] the one who checks out apps that if you ate, but with my good
[42:34] interests both. So the diversity of children. There' s fun, for
[42:37] example, there' s even a car and why you don' t have
[42:39] one. No, no, no, no, no, no. No.
[42:42] I take the picture. Aboo came out in a photo and I did
[42:46] that and I at the school ok we have to kill you the photo to
[42:50] have a photographer, because precisely if I put the teachers to take a photo
[42:54] cell of Fulla Fulan, but my daughter only came out are all one and
[43:00] I to boy and I have lieutenants more water. But we have everything.
[43:05] That is people who do want to see the pictures with their children and I
[43:08] prefer you to technical Ait' s Fine. We' re looking for him
[43:12] to turn around. I try to answer, and maybe there' s someone
[43:15] else who really doesn' t care. Not to see is pending, of
[43:19] be photon and of me you give to me they left me thrown once.
[43:23] We are many cousins and all was very small and we were still blonde and
[43:30] Mami takes us all was blonde and white still it seems yes it has as
[43:35] you know that about the cousins of Santiago and we were small we were like
[43:40] seven girls and I was bad officeed of my dad that my mom had a
[43:45] workshop there and I always went like attracts and I did like clothes to marus
[43:50] and I was me and my life to the faggot. In the end I
[43:55] have to rescar no longer me and I always like that my bon spat at
[44:01] where I was calm, that my cousins noticed there and I' ve always
[44:05] been like I like doing things like I just like manuelita and black was exact
[44:10] and nothing happens. Time goes by, I don' t know what and
[44:15] I kind of suddenly all of a sudden to your people, I hear silence
[44:21] and the case is either and I step out of the workshop into the office
[44:25] and see that all the black shots are closed, that' s Daddy'
[44:29] s office. You know about the apartment and me alone and how old I
[44:34] was. I was like six seven years old, hey, but that'
[44:38] s a tracha experience, and Mommy gets on, that' s Mommy'
[44:43] s version. Mommy rides in the box with all the girls she kind of
[44:46] saw and said ok here don' t stop, don' t head,
[44:51] but that I remembered mom' s mate and I had a new snow white
[44:57] watch that I had bought it, but I didn' t have the time.
[44:59] And Mommy' s leaving too. He' s already at Churchill and
[45:01] he says," Say Monica, give me your watch to put him on
[45:06] time and all that, but Monica, note your mom Prence here" I
[45:10] ' m just like in the movie and I did at the time I opened
[45:15] one of the shooters because they were manual and I was among the irons talking
[45:20] to a lady on the street and the lady stayed with me. But one
[45:22] thing I mean, a wandering lady from the street like crazy aha and she
[45:25] already stayed with me and we made better friends with her omis eh and you
[45:29] know when Mommy opens the most missive leaving screams and I said ay you more
[45:35] to your boot. I mean, that was sometimes a tra one for one
[45:38] and a hell of a lot. I mean, I go to Mommy like
[45:42] hysterical k. I didn' t want to make her feel bad, but
[45:45] that' s whattraum looks at me. That' s half the story is
[45:46] lost They' re common. I took a trip with the kids to Disney
[45:50] for the first time a few weeks ago and this is yes a more ch
[45:55] - made experience that I wanted to drink with mateo, that is, I
[45:58] don' t change it for anything in the world, like and I saw
[46:01] this experience with Podeman' s together they ride everything and that he lived was
[46:04] what I was doing, something that they don' t tell you about dismi
[46:07] that you' re nervous all the time, because you think the kid is
[46:08] going to run away with love, but you don' t understand that he
[46:09] ' s already walking. He eats little carajito tied up. Yeah, I
[46:12] ' d say the one that said where divers have some liches. Yeah,
[46:15] sure, you know we' re all perfect dads until we have kids.
[46:20] Ox then I was the one who said and look at that bully like it
[46:22] ' s called children are dogs. Yeah, I' m that mom'
[46:24] s, and I was with all of me, and you and I got
[46:30] to use it so smart circumstances that they yelled at me. They expect daisy
[46:31] not to see it with the children, mooring, no, but for bright
[46:37] colors and with luminescent color that were seen from far to kilometers. So that
[46:44] ' s what you said about what' s big. When I was in
[46:45] Disney, I used to say Wednesdays, I Chiquita thought Histo was huge.
[46:50] And now I see it and I say it' s not that big.
[46:52] No, I saw it in my house, of course, and I used
[46:57] to say Magic Kingdom was a sheath before, I say no, no,
[47:00] not so small, but that' s not what happens to you That'
[47:02] s my grandmother. I look spectacular to you. That' s also why
[47:05] when I went out here in the studio there' s a patio that reminded
[47:08] me, as I say, the mabula yard was big. Let' s
[47:12] say, but I saw that not there lue saw it immense, that is,
[47:15] it was a house that for us that courtyard is. In fact,
[47:17] I started writing you a story about my grandmother' s yard because it really
[47:21] was a very special place for cousins. We were playing, we were crossing
[47:27] and I saw it so great and then as an adult, I said.
[47:29] But this point, it kind of doesn' t kill her that big.
[47:31] I have a n so for me, for example, they get to camp
[47:35] and good in these spaces, which maybe for one as a chat and you
[47:40] know what goes on. So it' s good to put it in perspective,
[47:44] to realize how your child or the world. Yeah, like for that
[47:45] it' s like a thing that' s big like they' re growing
[47:50] up, because last year my chisell told me, Wow, how much it
[47:52] ' s grown I kill what it' s like for a bully strip that
[47:57] you see it as small as it ends ay, I look at you say
[47:59] shitty that it' s big no life. The changes are like and when
[48:02] the boy starts talking, they' re changes like you really say from one
[48:07] school year to another, that is, from one summer to the next.
[48:10] You have kids who may see it one day, but there are kids that
[48:14] you don' t see until the next summer and you see it like Wow,
[48:19] that is, I think it does two weeks. Thank you at those
[48:22] stages. The changes are very significant and get as long and already start as
[48:29] you know with i e the voice, the hair and everything up to the
[48:35] way they talk to you and you enjoy it how you know the rest of
[48:40] the year for a person who runs a camp, because people imagine. Ah
[48:44] well, you no longer work wait it is in summer. In my case,
[48:47] well, of course, because you have didactics. In my case,
[48:52] I have been a very active woman all my life, that is semi nature
[49:00] done, when I was little, my brother asked me where I disconnected,
[49:01] I mean I have always been very felt, yes, more or less.
[49:08] Even my brother has told me well, if there had been diagnosis at that
[49:12] time, perhaps I would have been on the activity record, in some,
[49:15] but I have really been very active and I have always had like many projects,
[49:20] I have been employed, I have worked, I work on a level
[49:22] fourteen years. I' ve been an advisor. He has worked for the
[49:25] Ministry for the private public sector. Now I have my foundation, we have
[49:29] an emotional education project. I just finished my master' s degree in emotional
[49:34] education and well- being. They threatened me that I can' t study
[49:37] anymore, that I can' t do anything anymore, for at least a
[49:38] year now. But I love learning, I love studying really. I stay
[49:43] very active, but it is a reality. I mean, I tell you
[49:45] all this because I' ve got like a life aha like I' m
[49:51] going for more, I do star you and I think about it a lot
[49:53] and I talk about it a lot. That' s interesting because all of
[49:57] a sudden, I get in camp mode and I' m going to tell
[50:00] you something that you' re going to laugh at, but I get in
[50:05] camp mode and it' s how I get camp. Of course, it
[50:06] ' s 30 years of camping. It' s a very important project for
[50:08] me that I enjoy, I' m passionate about living. We already have
[50:13] as a structure a know- how, there are things that flow, although
[50:17] every year is a totally different experience. You have, obviously, but you
[50:22] hire different people. The children are different. We are evolving, there are
[50:29] new challenges and every year represents like but I have a one two lives and
[50:32] once I was in the camp and I don' t know why, because
[50:37] I, that is very, very rare and very difficult. In fact,
[50:38] I already made the decision several years ago that I didn' t leave my
[50:42] camp. I mean, that' s not, like, negotiable, but
[50:45] in a moment, given how I have my didactic daisy life and my camping
[50:52] life, I remember that I came to the camp with my camp teacher,
[50:54] because I contagion a lot of energy. I' m a very energetic person
[51:00] and that' s the truth that' s been noticed. For example,
[51:04] there is half covid in the two thousand twenty- one that we resumed camps,
[51:07] because in two thousand twenty there was no camp, obviously, and they
[51:13] had to do like the first staff symy meeting and I remember someone saying wow,
[51:15] that is, you missed, because that I broadcast impregnos, that is,
[51:22] when you live something, there are no more answers, but more ras.
[51:27] And that day I remember I was afraid that yes or yes to go
[51:30] as it was like something important, like something of the government that I know
[51:34] in my didactic life and suddenly I get pulled out with an otak, but
[51:38] it was half an hour and I came back and everyone who wow and when
[51:43] I came back was again yampamento who and the blast And the truth is that
[51:46] yes. I mean. For me it' s very interesting because I suddenly
[51:51] pack, I' m camp mode and I transform, that is, it
[51:55] ' s a skill that we live in a dull life in my camp at
[52:01] 100%. Ya Jasmin, who is the director of evil Luschool, who
[52:05] we are very close colleagues, we are implementing, even building, which is
[52:08] the program of development and socioemotional learning to Jaima and du School and I was
[52:15] with her and she asks me suddenly, but you are always at this moment.
[52:17] I do, since 7: 30, well amber knows I am the
[52:21] tire first of the fields, I hurt with my team by following the children,
[52:24] seeing that and training also because the truth that is very different good mor
[52:29] Sometimes I had young women than one who has, one who is going to
[52:31] turn fifty, has more energy. And you say it makes a difference as
[52:37] you receive a mingla. And the truth is that those little details are houses,
[52:42] they' re what he does. It' s the big difference,
[52:43] but you have to be there to model and transmit and spread. So,
[52:46] yes, I' m in camp mode, but I have a very active
[52:51] life as an intense professional. I have on my podcast. We are five
[52:54] years old, in fact, we started on radio, but when the pandemic
[52:58] came, we moved even in my homes. When we were in the pandemic,
[53:00] I want to keep recording. And the truth is that I' m
[53:04] very committed to offering quality content and content like nume is called po right now
[53:10] is called online didactics. But we are in a process this I have not
[53:14] said anywhere, but we are in a very cool process of image, of
[53:17] king branding, of didactics and all that because we have built, we have
[53:22] didactics. I have the foundation, which is also four children, you have
[53:27] a husband. Yes, thank you, but I have it interesting because I
[53:31] have like all my life during the year, with all my projects, as
[53:37] advisor, with didactic, with didactic online, with always we are very active.
[53:40] Well, now I' m collaborating with Carla on that national and national
[53:45] project that zero, yes, but it' s very cool. It is
[53:47] a very cool life and the camp we fully enjoy. I have an exact
[53:54] extraordinary team. I have to say nothing to pass the shame, because he
[54:00] spends it in the office of Missiel eating comes out of the food, Missiel
[54:04] and I tell my daughter to be Vaita that I don' t give you
[54:07] food. He says to me, Mira, I have a scallet here that
[54:09] kills loves them and I want to die. And I' m better off
[54:15] or I think it' ll replace the Mira lunch box. When I was
[54:17] traveling with my ugly little boy, I did not avoid underdevelopment, not man
[54:22] or development. And when that comes, you' re strong enough to stand
[54:25] in the office and open the door to my armholes and go get the cookie
[54:29] and me, but I have two proposals for you. One for camp.
[54:32] You' ve thought that on the cardillos, I can do as something that
[54:37] parents and children can go, even if it' s a camping cha.
[54:39] That' s very pure. I like it and two of you have thought
[54:44] about one of the camps putting some social work in for me to wear.
[54:47] Yes, and you know I' m very inclined. In fact, we
[54:52] have a little school, the Mamifaela School, which, in fact, we
[54:54] are starting with a raffle right now. We have seventy- something children in
[54:58] the Mamifaela School. We support her from my community. I belong to a
[55:01] community called CB, which is a community of Christian life with the Jesuits of
[55:07] spirituality and Nansian, and we have had that social work for many years.
[55:12] I mean, I' ve always come with a lot of social commitment.
[55:15] In fact, my foundation now we have already done a project in Dajabón of
[55:21] emotional education, we have built a center in Soap with La Merced Foundation.
[55:25] I don' t know if you guys console her and she said no wow,
[55:29] I mean take my hat off the job. Now we join the Merced
[55:31] Foundation, which they have a kipe. I don' t know if you
[55:35] guys have or knew clearly, Knight' s center. I did little kids.
[55:38] That' s where we' re implementing. I build a beauty,
[55:42] the experience we are having Skypepin dreams, carry emotional education, either through building
[55:45] or through other programs. We have a program called I build my emotional well
[55:52] - being, my dream, bring emotional education through the Ocia Foundation, socioemotional
[55:54] skills to all children and young people. Well, that' s the dream.
[56:00] But now we' re starting in Monteplata, at a school that wow.
[56:04] I take off my hat of nice things happening in this country, very
[56:07] good things that really, when you get out you say no. When you
[56:09] arrived at that school, they only founded three nuns. There is only one
[56:12] left, but what happens there and in the number of children and young people
[56:16] who are in that school is a large school. Chiquitita started and they didn
[56:20] ' t tell the story, but you say wow. The same fruiting as
[56:22] the Mercedes. So there' s a lot of people doing beautiful things,
[56:25] and I know it' s verse and maybe it' s the light.
[56:28] Like all bad things, then the work is social, that is, it
[56:30] has always been a part. I' m telling you this because it'
[56:36] s something that' s part of who I am. I mean, it
[56:37] ' s a commitment that I have and I even at one point I even
[56:42] contacted an outsider, because outside of here it' s very famous common.
[56:47] The camps that are the parents pay for their children, of course, to
[56:52] do social works. And I got to meet some people and I' m
[56:55] done with everything, I' m crazy out there cluso we came as if
[57:00] to explore that possibility, because here there is a lot of need and the
[57:06] children are sensitized what needs to be very careful, that it' s nothing
[57:09] like care, but really there' s a maybe you can as essential assistance,
[57:15] for example, what happens is that you have to be very careful.
[57:16] Yes, because children who are of that is a whole subject, children who
[57:21] are of economic universe, let' s say high, that is, that
[57:24] they have favorable living conditions maybe they reach a space and if it is not
[57:30] handled or eaten. I drive well if I come to read to you or
[57:35] I come to give you a paddle. Here you are, give them like
[57:37] I' ll give you something or I' ll take one of the famous
[57:39] donation. In fact, many institutions are already moving from that more assistanceist look
[57:45] to one more look at the service actually. In fact, in education there
[57:51] is a whole line of work. I do not know in this country if
[57:52] it has been implemented, but in the United States it is called service learning,
[57:58] which is learning in the service. Here, in fact, they made
[57:59] a baby on your ship with a service learning specialist. There is an organization
[58:05] that is called serving as a volunteer. I don' t know if you
[58:08] guys are what' s been video. Yes, they do a beautiful job,
[58:10] so what happens that they did a learning event in the service, what
[58:15] we want that the one who is going to help, we are going to
[58:19] say or do that social work really gets involved in a way, such that
[58:23] it is double- track, that is, I learn and I grow.
[58:28] It' s an experience that I' m not here to Rica, of
[58:30] course I' m giving you, like a little Patrinike, as I am
[58:36] I' m better, better, but I tea and man never come back
[58:39] thanks once to my son. The play was to give some sandwiches to the
[58:44] street kids and I would say but you do it tomorrow because it' s
[58:47] giving him a good sandwich, that who knows when it' s tested on
[58:51] it, that' s what the point is. Then I think you have
[58:52] to ask a lot of questions. I went deep. No, no,
[58:57] but such a deal, but we' re very careful, you know,
[59:00] and ah ah, I' ve got the sandachito. Well, I prove
[59:02] it and sure, but I don' t. I mean, it'
[59:06] s like they say, teach the kid how to fish. No, I
[59:08] mean give him the rod to lend you in front of fishing. I don
[59:12] ' t catch him. I mean, it' s kind of like what
[59:14] I' m doing. I did, it wasn' t boaters or kids
[59:16] forgiveness maybe so small for their stage of development. You know, there are
[59:22] other ways to involve them as simpler, but I believe faithfully in that,
[59:27] and the bigger ones, to really involve them in looking at each other.
[59:30] I did an experience with some young women who went to the cadillos that we
[59:35] made the CB that he built. My emotional well- being. A mother
[59:37] contacted me, told me what we need this and closed the CB by going
[59:42] to the school near the Cadinians, to Mamifaela, which is the little school
[59:45] that we support, that we have seventy- two children to dadrin or be
[59:49] a good sponsor, and that we look for the funds and that we look
[59:52] for the return so that those seventy- two children are there, they are
[59:57] there and they were the last day to do activities with the children and they
[1:00:00] themselves create an activity to design us to buy the materials. And it'
[1:00:02] s a totally different experience. For example, we went and gave her a
[1:00:07] clear moleche. I studied in Chiquita, at Montesori Elementary, and we think
[1:00:15] when we had like ten eleven out there all week or every month. I
[1:00:22] think it was we visited a little aquelita and each person had like a small
[1:00:25] group of two, or for example, I had two girls and all week
[1:00:30] we read together, I taught him how to help him, how we learned
[1:00:36] together, how we had, as well as reading and those girls and we
[1:00:40] got pictures of when we started until when we finished. We were a spy
[1:00:42] and a little bit when we finished, like we did. Dude, it
[1:00:46] was super enriching for me and as a little girl, true as it breaks
[1:00:53] that bubble and my mom always, my mom sent me, for example,
[1:00:58] to my nanny' s house when they were birthdays of the neighborhood children.
[1:01:01] And hey you know me and mana with the bicoche, the pizza told them
[1:01:04] that I don' t know what and I was gonna ride the birthday and
[1:01:09] all that stuff like that, get you out of your bubble, put you
[1:01:13] in another context. That' s very impo getting to know people, having
[1:01:17] experiences with them. Don' t feel more exactly sen ink goes, neither
[1:01:23] can you feel less, but nice board relationship, I create a relationship.
[1:01:29] That' s not why he' s asking and why he' s asking.
[1:01:30] Have another, but why I weigh you clearly, and the truth is
[1:01:37] that almost in his or the patio, what I suffered sounds serious, but
[1:01:40] I have a reality. They don' t make themselves the reality of someone
[1:01:45] else. That' s exactly what I' d like. And that'
[1:01:47] s why I make you the prefibbility, because I, ever since I had
[1:01:51] to kill I always said I want social work. I am an extremely empathetic
[1:01:54] people and I learned from my grandmother and my family to give them are that
[1:02:00] it is needed, whatever it is, they are very giving. And that
[1:02:01] I grew up seeing that as it says in everything to love and serve clearly
[1:02:07] that the one who does not live to serve, does not serve to live.
[1:02:09] And one of the things my grandmother taught me that sometimes, when IT
[1:02:13] costs you and you give, that donation is the most important, because you
[1:02:16] can' t do it exactly, because that shows you that you' re
[1:02:22] really coming out of your heart, because what you can stay is for You
[1:02:24] and that you need it. You' re giving it to someone who needs
[1:02:27] it more than you. And that' s why I' m asking you
[1:02:30] because I think it would be a very cool thing for a camp that little
[1:02:36] by little the children are going into that world that we know precisely that there
[1:02:39] are people who, unfortunately, don' t have many opportunities that you had,
[1:02:45] but they have other opportunities that you, having many things you won'
[1:02:50] t have, because there are parallel worlds and there are many different things,
[1:02:54] that is, in scarcity very good ideas are born that in a bubble of
[1:02:59] prosperity you can not necessarily see them and vice versa. I mean, they
[1:03:00] ' re two hilly worlds. That connects continuously and I would love for my
[1:03:04] children to supurchas. I think so. I do understand that above all,
[1:03:08] bigger to design more experiences and it' s with the smallest things but I
[1:03:13] do understand that it' s a subject for the theme of time, like
[1:03:15] that for so long. But maybe we see the cadillos when it' s
[1:03:19] done, because we don' t take you for a ride with the big
[1:03:22] ones, which are six to twelve. Perhaps to include in the subject of
[1:03:24] the cadillos as some experience with the same children, for example, of the
[1:03:28] school, that the school approaches you, that is, now you gave me
[1:03:30] as an idea that could. That would be so cool. I mean,
[1:03:34] and I' m telling you because maybe mys his marchamp you can make a
[1:03:37] movie night and that a lot of dads can sponsor those kids and we bring
[1:03:42] him in like this and make a movie night. There, in school you
[1:03:45] can believe it, it can shape it, it' s putting it to
[1:03:49] work, I' m not telling you, because that' s something I
[1:03:51] love. That' s putting me on now. I am one of what
[1:03:52] you already know and you and adults also need a lot to leave yes and
[1:04:00] come here when the camp starts where we can find you i Samercan com is
[1:04:04] the great website on Instagram My Sumerg and he starts on 26 June and it
[1:04:12] is the last week of June and the four weeks of July. Chullings.
[1:04:15] I think it ends on the 24th of July. We have eight to one
[1:04:18] edition and so extended until four and on Fridays until twelve one until one WOW
[1:04:23] and for children eight to two. This year we have the option because my
[1:04:30] daughter is conducting that camp in the cadillos for two years, that they continue
[1:04:33] those two weeks after my amercamp in the cadillos with quail as a pri but
[1:04:38] that yes is the quota is super limited, because right now it is a
[1:04:41] small group and you have to be part of mix not necessarily or not.
[1:04:45] You can make that two weeks solid can do those weeks. We' re
[1:04:47] doing like that package for cam parents but whoever wants to sign up only for
[1:04:54] the cadillos, like two weeks with sleepers and we' ll soon have you
[1:04:57] the option for pades. We' re going to make a can for father
[1:05:00] that I' m going to take to Mike Summer' s parents bell that
[1:05:02] you speak or let' s say this experience that didn' t take us
[1:05:10] like you blessed good days in loved ones to heal, for exact campamentistic wounds
[1:05:15] Thank you, Margarita Miami Ne. Thank you all very much for listening to
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