# FKN Classics Double Feature! Matthew Landman - Depopulation | Erin Montgomery - ET Abduction

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 31 Jul 2026, 2 h 13 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Tonight,
[0:07] Speaker 1: my guest is Matthew Landman. He is a researcher, lecturer,
[0:10] Speaker 1: and documentary filmmaker. He worked on a farm and it
[0:14] Speaker 1: was being there that opened his eyes for the first
[0:16] Speaker 1: time to the Franken Skies we never knew. From the
[0:19] Speaker 1: day he realized something abnormal was occurring in our skies,
[0:23] Speaker 1: he was driven to do something about it. Through his
[0:25] Speaker 1: devotion and passion, he has realized incredible traction via social media.
[0:30] Speaker 1: His goal is simple, it is unity. Matthew, welcome back.
[0:34] Speaker 1: How are you doing tonight.
[0:35] Speaker 2: Hey, Chris, doing pretty great. Thanks for asking. Interesting times
[0:40] Speaker 2: we're living in, especially today right now as the narrative
[0:45] Speaker 2: starts to shift to climate change in global warming, and
[0:48] Speaker 2: it's all geoengineering that's pushing that narrative. So my role
[0:53] Speaker 2: is getting a little more exacerbated and just trying to
[1:00] Speaker 2: figure out what to do about it and how to
[1:02] Speaker 2: play it all out and win this battle. It's going
[1:05] Speaker 2: to be a long journey.
[1:07] Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you've been at it for a good
[1:09] Speaker 1: while now, and I applaud you for that. It's been
[1:12] Speaker 1: a long time since you've been on this show. I
[1:15] Speaker 1: remember hearing hearing about you a few years ago watching
[1:19] Speaker 1: Franken Skies and noting the work that you've done, and
[1:22] Speaker 1: then having you on my show. I think it was
[1:24] Speaker 1: in like twenty eighteen. You were actually one of the
[1:27] Speaker 1: very first guests I ever had on here. But it's
[1:30] Speaker 1: good to have you back on. We do have a
[1:32] Speaker 1: lot to talk about, because, like you said, a lot
[1:35] Speaker 1: has happened since we last spoke, including a globalist attempt
[1:40] Speaker 1: to destroy humanity. But what let's start with a little
[1:44] Speaker 1: bit about your background, since it has been so long
[1:48] Speaker 1: and for the audience that's not familiar with you, what
[1:52] Speaker 1: was it that really opened your eyes to some of
[1:54] Speaker 1: the aspects of reality that we're being deceived by.
[1:57] Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, thanks for asking, and hello everyone. My name's
[2:03] Speaker 2: Matt Landman. You can find me on Facebook Matt la
[2:09] Speaker 2: N D m A N. And I've got my movie
[2:12] Speaker 2: Frankin Skies that it used to be really easy to find,
[2:15] Speaker 2: but now that I've lost my YouTube channel and cisorship
[2:17] Speaker 2: is rampant, it's not so easy. But you can go
[2:20] Speaker 2: to Frankinskies dot com where I've got it there forever
[2:23] Speaker 2: alive and well. But me, I I've lived the life
[2:31] Speaker 2: of a pretty normal dude. I mean, would I classify
[2:33] Speaker 2: as normal. You know, I've had like forty different jobs
[2:36] Speaker 2: and stuff. I guess most normal people like get a
[2:39] Speaker 2: job and stick it, and you know, get the mortgage
[2:42] Speaker 2: and stay in one place. I've traveled a lot and
[2:45] Speaker 2: moved around a lot. I grew up in Virginia, but
[2:47] Speaker 2: I kept leaving because I didn't want to be there
[2:48] Speaker 2: and I didn't really know where I wanted to be
[2:50] Speaker 2: and my journey of like waking up, you asked, kind
[2:54] Speaker 2: of it sounded like, Well, I lived in northern Virginia,
[3:00] Speaker 2: just right outside of Washington, DC when nine to eleven happened,
[3:02] Speaker 2: So that hit really close to home. Dallas Airport it's
[3:06] Speaker 2: like ten minutes from my house, fifteen minutes from my house,
[3:09] Speaker 2: and DC's another like a half an hour from where
[3:12] Speaker 2: I lived. And you know, like the plane got hijacked
[3:14] Speaker 2: from Dollas Airport right there and flown into the Pentagon
[3:16] Speaker 2: right over there. And my girlfriend at the time went
[3:19] Speaker 2: to Pace University, which is in Manhattan, and it just
[3:23] Speaker 2: it's right there next to the World Trade Center. It's
[3:25] Speaker 2: just a dwarfs It's dwarfed by the trades towers. It
[3:29] Speaker 2: was at least and the phone lines were down that
[3:32] Speaker 2: whole day, and I was calling my girlfriend all day
[3:34] Speaker 2: and I was really worried and upset. And when I
[3:36] Speaker 2: learned through Dylan Avery, thank you Dylan Avery for the
[3:41] Speaker 2: documentary Loose Change, and through the Zeitgeist movies and one
[3:47] Speaker 2: of my first friends, Keith Patton, random friend, he was
[3:51] Speaker 2: passing out Zeitgeist DVDs to peak the delivery men and
[3:55] Speaker 2: stuff like that. This is back in like, you know,
[3:58] Speaker 2: the year two thousand and one and whatnot in two
[4:00] Speaker 2: thousand and three, what have you. So it's been an interesting,
[4:05] Speaker 2: slow and steady ride for me personally. And I never
[4:09] Speaker 2: knew any of this deep stuff like vaccines or kim
[4:13] Speaker 2: trails or even fluoride. I didn't know much about any
[4:16] Speaker 2: of it. Slowly, after nine to eleven, I learned about fluoride.
[4:20] Speaker 2: And then I ended up pursuing my life dream of
[4:27] Speaker 2: learning about filmmaking and going to school for it and
[4:30] Speaker 2: getting some proper education on filmmaking, which I never knew
[4:33] Speaker 2: I was going to be a documentary filmmaker. I thought
[4:35] Speaker 2: I was going to be maybe an actor or a
[4:37] Speaker 2: director of like narratives or whatever. I didn't know, but
[4:40] Speaker 2: I never thought i'd do this. It kind of worked
[4:44] Speaker 2: out pretty well because I got a master's degree in business,
[4:48] Speaker 2: so I've got a little bit of business background, and
[4:50] Speaker 2: I worked as a finance analyst, and I worked all
[4:52] Speaker 2: these different jobs in business, and now that's helped me
[4:54] Speaker 2: along with my EMF protective protection clothing line and whatnot.
[4:58] Speaker 2: That I have sparrow spe which is a Latin word.
[5:02] Speaker 2: It's translated to hope. We could talk about that later.
[5:05] Speaker 2: But what happened was is I went to school finally again. Okay,
[5:09] Speaker 2: so I went to Virginia Tech. I got a bachelor's
[5:11] Speaker 2: of science and marketing and management. And right after I
[5:13] Speaker 2: left there was that crazy school shooting. And later I
[5:16] Speaker 2: learned about MK Ultra and all that sort of stuff,
[5:18] Speaker 2: and so all of that is close to home. You know,
[5:20] Speaker 2: all these realizations and aha moments and eye openings and
[5:25] Speaker 2: third eye openings or whatever like these things are. They
[5:28] Speaker 2: were all there the whole time. Even the sky was
[5:31] Speaker 2: there the whole time. You know, it's unreal. And I
[5:34] Speaker 2: was duked when nine to eleven happened. I was scared
[5:37] Speaker 2: to death. And I was always afraid of needles. I
[5:41] Speaker 2: never got a blood I never get blood, I never
[5:46] Speaker 2: got the flu shot or anything like that. But I
[5:48] Speaker 2: never thought it was because of anything aside from like
[5:51] Speaker 2: just this deep innate like you know, gut wrenching, like
[5:55] Speaker 2: I hate those things. So either way, I got a
[5:58] Speaker 2: job on a farm after I graduated from school the
[6:01] Speaker 2: second time. Because I got the business degree. I didn't
[6:04] Speaker 2: have the film background. There was no film school to
[6:05] Speaker 2: go to in Virginia, and I wanted to get in
[6:07] Speaker 2: situition and whatnot. You know, that's the life of someone
[6:10] Speaker 2: that doesn't have too much money. And I ended up
[6:13] Speaker 2: going to school again, cal State Humboldt at the very
[6:17] Speaker 2: northern top of California, a very rural community, and there
[6:21] Speaker 2: I got a master's in business. And I'm so glad
[6:23] Speaker 2: I got went to school before all this nonsense. Because
[6:25] Speaker 2: everything's so online now and you got to show your
[6:28] Speaker 2: COVID Certificate of inoculation or whatever to even go to
[6:32] Speaker 2: school and be around humans now, and everything's changed. I'm
[6:34] Speaker 2: so glad that I got to do that. It was
[6:36] Speaker 2: such an amazing opportunity for me. I graduated, tought my class.
[6:39] Speaker 2: You know, I really worked hard then because I wanted
[6:42] Speaker 2: to give it all I could. And while I was
[6:44] Speaker 2: getting the NBA, I basically got a film degree as
[6:48] Speaker 2: well on the side, and that's where I learned about filmmaking.
[6:53] Speaker 2: And so I got out of school and I worked
[6:56] Speaker 2: in the office again and it sucked. And I got
[6:58] Speaker 2: the opportunity to work on an organic farm growing all
[7:01] Speaker 2: sorts of vegetables and I mean, you name it, potatoes
[7:05] Speaker 2: and pumpkins and squash and all this, and I took
[7:07] Speaker 2: the job. I left the cubicle, the office, I left
[7:11] Speaker 2: it for the last time, I guess in retrospect, and
[7:16] Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I've had forty freaking jobs, restaurant,
[7:19] Speaker 2: real estate, you name it. I've worked all these different
[7:21] Speaker 2: things trying to find my way where I would like to,
[7:24] Speaker 2: you know, find my niche and be happy and not
[7:28] Speaker 2: and be okay with like halving people tell me what
[7:30] Speaker 2: to do, which I'm not. So in the end, I'm
[7:33] Speaker 2: on a farm and it was great. I got grounded.
[7:36] Speaker 2: I learned about the elements. And at the age of
[7:39] Speaker 2: like thirty four, I guess it was around then twenty
[7:42] Speaker 2: fourteen ish or twenty twenty fourteen or thirteen. I was
[7:46] Speaker 2: around thirty three or thirty four and day one on
[7:49] Speaker 2: the farm, and I'm almost done. Thank you for listening
[7:51] Speaker 2: to the story. Day one on the farm, I learned
[7:53] Speaker 2: that potatoes drew potatoes, and a lot of people are
[7:56] Speaker 2: kind of laughing, and a lot of people are like,
[7:58] Speaker 2: wait what, And maybe you've heard me say this before.
[8:00] Speaker 2: I'm sorry to be a broken record, but guess what.
[8:03] Speaker 2: I didn't know that. And I thought I knew everything.
[8:06] Speaker 2: I'd gotten a master's a degree in business, and i'd,
[8:09] Speaker 2: you know, gone to this great public school. They said
[8:11] Speaker 2: it was the best in the country. But and I've
[8:13] Speaker 2: i you know, I did a lot, and I thought
[8:15] Speaker 2: i'd known things. I didn't know anything. Man, they've kept
[8:19] Speaker 2: that from me. I didn't know. There's different varieties of limits.
[8:22] Speaker 2: I didn't know hardly anything, but I thought I knew
[8:25] Speaker 2: so much. So on day one, I'm like, wait, you
[8:27] Speaker 2: just put the potato in the ground and gross a
[8:29] Speaker 2: bunch of potatoes. That's what the potato is trying to
[8:30] Speaker 2: do in my pantry, was trying to grow a bunch
[8:32] Speaker 2: of potatoes. They're trying to limit that information from me.
[8:34] Speaker 2: So I am reliant on the grocery store and the
[8:37] Speaker 2: system in capitalism. I gotta go pay for potatoes when
[8:39] Speaker 2: I could easily have a flourishing potato garden over the years,
[8:45] Speaker 2: I could learn how to do these things on my
[8:47] Speaker 2: own and cultivate these things on my own and grow
[8:48] Speaker 2: fruits and all these things. I mean, the first time
[8:50] Speaker 2: that I saw an apple tree, I literally was blown
[8:53] Speaker 2: the I was blown away, bro, because I thought apple
[8:57] Speaker 2: trees had like four or five apples on them, like
[8:59] Speaker 2: how I drew and I was like, I had no
[9:00] Speaker 2: idea how abundant the world was, even as an adult.
[9:04] Speaker 2: And on the farm, I was grounded, and I started
[9:07] Speaker 2: to just get muscles and get it in my body.
[9:10] Speaker 2: And this one day, it was the end of the season,
[9:14] Speaker 2: and we're supposed to get catastrophic with this downpour of
[9:18] Speaker 2: rain for like a week, and we were excited about
[9:21] Speaker 2: this almost flood of rain because we're in the midst
[9:24] Speaker 2: of like a five year drought which was catastrophic, and California,
[9:29] Speaker 2: the whole state was hopeful for this jet stream of
[9:32] Speaker 2: moisture that had somehow not been hitting California for the
[9:35] Speaker 2: you know, the half decade. The weather set one hundred
[9:38] Speaker 2: percent chances of rain for a week. The amphibious creatures
[9:40] Speaker 2: came out from underneath my house, like salamanders and frogs,
[9:44] Speaker 2: and everyone was excited. The plants, the trees, the redwoods.
[9:48] Speaker 2: The energy was it's about to dump rain, and these
[9:51] Speaker 2: black storm clouds were coming off the ocean. I can
[9:54] Speaker 2: like see the ocean pretty much from where the farm
[9:56] Speaker 2: was where I work. I could hear the waves from
[9:58] Speaker 2: where I worked and this rural farm community where I worked,
[10:02] Speaker 2: and on a daily basis, I would see one plane
[10:05] Speaker 2: flying over. It was a very rural atmosphere. There's not
[10:11] Speaker 2: much air traffic. I'm in the middle of nowhere, and
[10:13] Speaker 2: on this day I saw something that I'd actually like.
[10:17] Speaker 2: I put the I shelved the memory, which is very interesting.
[10:20] Speaker 2: And we have to talk about them for a second,
[10:22] Speaker 2: about the psychology of the human mind. Because we see things,
[10:25] Speaker 2: we don't know how to compute them. We don't have
[10:27] Speaker 2: a reference point, and or maybe our reference point is
[10:30] Speaker 2: some conspiratorial nonsense, propaganda, misinformation, social engineering, campaign crap off
[10:36] Speaker 2: of the New York Times US a day or like
[10:38] Speaker 2: some you know, media conglomerate, and they're telling you how
[10:41] Speaker 2: to think about something. So then you were your first
[10:43] Speaker 2: introduced something. You don't recognize the truth in it, but
[10:46] Speaker 2: what I witnessed on this farm. I'm out here harvesting
[10:49] Speaker 2: pumpkins because we're worried these pumpkins are going to rot
[10:51] Speaker 2: in the field and farmer Paul is going to lose
[10:54] Speaker 2: his ass. We're worried about the harvest of the year
[10:57] Speaker 2: because the rains are coming early usually they come and
[11:00] Speaker 2: and it's October, early October, so these big storm clouds
[11:04] Speaker 2: are coming off the ocean. It's going to rain for
[11:06] Speaker 2: a week. And we're out there harvesting. I've got raining jacket,
[11:09] Speaker 2: rain boots on, and I'm working hard, you know. And
[11:13] Speaker 2: on the edge of these this storm, Okay, as it
[11:16] Speaker 2: rolled in, on the edge of the storm, there's plane.
[11:19] Speaker 2: These planes showed up and there's zigs. They're flying in
[11:22] Speaker 2: front of the storm, you know. And it wasn't just
[11:25] Speaker 2: that they had arrived, which is a statistical anomaly, which
[11:28] Speaker 2: is something to recognize because oftentimes there's very sparse air traffic,
[11:32] Speaker 2: and when there's a lot more air traffic, what are
[11:34] Speaker 2: they doing. Let's take a look at the sky, like
[11:35] Speaker 2: if you really looked up, you can wake up just
[11:37] Speaker 2: in that. But what I witnessed was these persistent linear,
[11:42] Speaker 2: serious cloud formations. These kim trails coming out of the
[11:44] Speaker 2: back of these jets, and about twenty or a dozen
[11:47] Speaker 2: or fifteen ish you know jets, there's zigzagging on the
[11:51] Speaker 2: storm front, leaving these lines and going into them the
[11:55] Speaker 2: storm there, and as the storm came into this haze
[11:58] Speaker 2: that they've created, no rain drop for the whole week,
[12:01] Speaker 2: no rain drop, not a drop, And I thought nothing
[12:04] Speaker 2: of it. I was just like, Okay, weird, no rain whatever.
[12:08] Speaker 2: And I didn't think that there was a correlation or
[12:11] Speaker 2: even a causation to the non raining and the clouds,
[12:14] Speaker 2: I mean, and the fake clouds that the kimshrow clouds.
[12:17] Speaker 2: The planes they are traffic. So the memory just sat
[12:21] Speaker 2: in my brain until like six months later. I was
[12:23] Speaker 2: venting to a buddy on the phone on the in
[12:25] Speaker 2: the East coast about nine to eleven. And the kids
[12:28] Speaker 2: nowadays don't know anything about it, because I had these
[12:30] Speaker 2: young friends, because I was going to college, you know,
[12:33] Speaker 2: and I'm surrounded by youngsters, and I was in my
[12:35] Speaker 2: mid thirties and these kids are like eighteen, and when
[12:37] Speaker 2: they were born, nine to eleven had already happened. They
[12:40] Speaker 2: had no reference point. They didn't have a girlfriend in
[12:42] Speaker 2: New York and whatever like I had, and literally, these people,
[12:45] Speaker 2: normal kids out there in the world, they want to
[12:47] Speaker 2: look these things up and they do and they google
[12:49] Speaker 2: it and they quote they say this, I've seen both
[12:53] Speaker 2: sides of the story, and there's both sides of the
[12:54] Speaker 2: story right there in front of them. They don't have
[12:56] Speaker 2: any reason to pick one or the other. And they're
[12:58] Speaker 2: just like, I can't choose the the conspiracy government did
[13:01] Speaker 2: it or the other side. So I was venting to
[13:03] Speaker 2: my buddy and he said, yeah, you know, they weren't
[13:05] Speaker 2: even born when nine to eleven happened, But what about
[13:07] Speaker 2: Kim trails? The right in their faces, Matt, And I
[13:11] Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean. Lorenzo my homie back
[13:14] Speaker 2: home that I grew up with, and he was like,
[13:16] Speaker 2: you know, Kim trails And he was like, you showed
[13:18] Speaker 2: me freaking loose Change and Zeitgeist and all this stuff.
[13:22] Speaker 2: You don't know what Kim trails are, dude. He's like, dude,
[13:24] Speaker 2: go get on the internet, google to where Kim trails.
[13:26] Speaker 2: You'll know what I'm talking about. And I did, and
[13:28] Speaker 2: the rest is basically history. Like I got mad. I
[13:31] Speaker 2: realized that the activists that were doing the movies and
[13:34] Speaker 2: stuff like that. It took me a couple of years
[13:36] Speaker 2: to really put it together, but the opposition that existed
[13:41] Speaker 2: I did. I realized that they weren't doing a good
[13:43] Speaker 2: enough job. So I had to make Frankens guys and
[13:44] Speaker 2: do the conferences and do all the stuff that I've done.
[13:47] Speaker 2: But in the end I learned that they maybe weren't
[13:50] Speaker 2: doing a good job on purpose. And then the plot
[13:52] Speaker 2: dickens and it gets really interesting in all this stuff.
[13:55] Speaker 2: But there's no contrail, there's no little trail coming out
[13:58] Speaker 2: of jets. There's no hot air coming out like anytime
[14:01] Speaker 2: you see anything it's a chemical. They're mixing chemicals. There's
[14:04] Speaker 2: a whole orchestrated ballet of stuff going on in the
[14:07] Speaker 2: sky often and they're messing with the weather. They're experimenting
[14:12] Speaker 2: on a lot of stuff. They're causing fires and manipulating
[14:15] Speaker 2: fires and droughts, and there's there's so much agenda at
[14:19] Speaker 2: play with the global warming and gew engineering, weather modification
[14:23] Speaker 2: and climate change. Yata da, thanks for listening. But that's
[14:26] Speaker 2: my tim trail thing in a nutshell. But it was
[14:29] Speaker 2: so fascinating to see that I didn't know even the word.
[14:34] Speaker 2: I didn't know anything and all it took was one
[14:37] Speaker 2: friend being like, dude, waked up and here I am,
[14:39] Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's the power of
[14:41] Speaker 2: everyone out there in the world, I think.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Right, And this is one of the topics that kind
[14:45] Speaker 1: of got me started down a lot of different rabbit
[14:48] Speaker 1: holes as well. But since we last spoke, I've had
[14:53] Speaker 1: several guests on with different I guess angles on the
[14:57] Speaker 1: research into kim trails.
[15:00] Speaker 3: I've had different theories.
[15:01] Speaker 1: Onto why and how and what's the purpose and who's
[15:05] Speaker 1: doing it and everything like that.
[15:07] Speaker 3: One thing that I've.
[15:10] Speaker 1: Possibly come to understand is that these atmospheric injections.
[15:18] Speaker 3: Have multiple purposes.
[15:19] Speaker 1: There's not just one, and it's hard to kind of
[15:23] Speaker 1: to pinpoint what the agenda is because there's probably multiple
[15:28] Speaker 1: and there's probably they probably think they're doing humanity good
[15:32] Speaker 1: on this side, but it's really killing us on this side.
[15:36] Speaker 1: So could you kind of break down based on your
[15:40] Speaker 1: research in which you find out why they're doing this,
[15:43] Speaker 1: what did exactly is they're spraying, and who's doing it purpose?
[15:48] Speaker 1: You know, basically I've basic rundown.
[15:52] Speaker 2: Of that happily, and that's that's a lot. So first,
[15:56] Speaker 2: what I heard from you is that. It was one
[15:58] Speaker 2: of the first things that I going down the rabbit hole,
[16:01] Speaker 2: and Kim Trail's can be that door of truth. I
[16:04] Speaker 2: always say truth is a frequency. Once you start writing
[16:07] Speaker 2: that vibration of truth, all these other truths become self
[16:09] Speaker 2: evident because you're on a new frequency, you know, And
[16:11] Speaker 2: Kim Trails can totally open up your eyes to see like,
[16:15] Speaker 2: oh my god, well, if they're doing that, then basically
[16:17] Speaker 2: anything is possible. And then you can start to read
[16:20] Speaker 2: the writing on the wall and you're literally watching movies
[16:23] Speaker 2: and watching the news differently and everything becomes like a show.
[16:27] Speaker 2: So the who, what, why, where, when and how is
[16:30] Speaker 2: something that activists and even anyone who's waking up to
[16:33] Speaker 2: this stuff that people they everyone out there, people us
[16:37] Speaker 2: we want to be able to know all these things,
[16:39] Speaker 2: to be able to convey the message to our friends,
[16:41] Speaker 2: family and peers. Otherwise they ask us questions, we don't
[16:43] Speaker 2: know the answers, and then we're conspiracy nut jobs and
[16:45] Speaker 2: just wasn't even it was pointless even bring it up.
[16:48] Speaker 2: So it is, it's complicated. It's all the farious, though
[16:52] Speaker 2: I have no doubt it's all ne farious. A lot
[16:54] Speaker 2: of people have good hearts, they want to think, oh,
[16:57] Speaker 2: maybe the constituents were changed when Trump came into office,
[16:59] Speaker 2: and oh maybe they're doing us good because of the
[17:04] Speaker 2: Grand Solar Minimum and all this other nonsense. And a
[17:06] Speaker 2: lot of this is propaganda. I'm sorry. It's it's disinformation,
[17:10] Speaker 2: it's confusion tactics, and it's it's deep. It's really deep.
[17:15] Speaker 2: And you've got to cultivate gut discernment. Don't listen to
[17:18] Speaker 2: everything that I say, feel everything that I say, and
[17:21] Speaker 2: if it doesn't resonate with you, maybe don't believe it.
[17:25] Speaker 2: You know, do your own research. But when you say
[17:27] Speaker 2: to your own research, that's hard because what you're looking
[17:29] Speaker 2: on Google and like everything has changed even over the
[17:32] Speaker 2: past few years. I can go on Google now and
[17:34] Speaker 2: type in because I do a daily blog called Daily
[17:38] Speaker 2: Truths on Actual Activists dot com. And it's kind of
[17:43] Speaker 2: my rebuttal to the censorship on YouTube and Facebook and
[17:46] Speaker 2: all these other platforms. So I've got this, like this
[17:48] Speaker 2: daily truth thing, and I wanted to talk about how
[17:50] Speaker 2: coca cola is acidic and you can melt pennies in it,
[17:53] Speaker 2: and it's you know, not really healthy to drink coca cola.
[17:56] Speaker 2: All right, So I've done research on coca cola throughout
[17:59] Speaker 2: my entire life since the Internet was out there. And
[18:01] Speaker 2: the search term like coca cola unhealthy now brings up
[18:05] Speaker 2: the first search terms are and this is this is pertinent,
[18:08] Speaker 2: you know, and this isn't just a little tangent. This
[18:10] Speaker 2: is very important and pertinent. The first search terms on
[18:12] Speaker 2: the front of Google tell me how healthy coca cola
[18:16] Speaker 2: is because it hydrates you more than water. It's more
[18:19] Speaker 2: hydrating than water because Coca Cola funded research got humans
[18:23] Speaker 2: drinking water and coca cola, and then they urinate more
[18:27] Speaker 2: of the water. They don't retain as much of the
[18:31] Speaker 2: water and they do coca cola. Therefore, they have determined
[18:35] Speaker 2: that coca cola is more hydrating, therefore more healthy than
[18:38] Speaker 2: drinking water. And this Coca Cola funded research, I mean,
[18:41] Speaker 2: like you can't even find like how do you do
[18:44] Speaker 2: your own research? So your own research is in your gut,
[18:46] Speaker 2: it's in your heart, and we're like cultivating this discernment
[18:48] Speaker 2: and understanding. Basically, anything you do during the day, you
[18:51] Speaker 2: can ask your gut and if your gut like twists
[18:54] Speaker 2: and you go against it, and then you end up
[18:56] Speaker 2: like you know, rolling your ankle or something because you
[18:58] Speaker 2: shouldn't have gone that way or whatever. You start to learn,
[19:00] Speaker 2: Oh wow, I can really feel the truth myself, Like
[19:03] Speaker 2: it's deeper than you could ever imagine. So the who, what, why,
[19:05] Speaker 2: we're win how? It's deep? Okay. There's a document called
[19:10] Speaker 2: the Tropospheric Aerosol Program. Troposphere is a layer of the atmosphere.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Tap Tropospheric aersol program from the Department of Energy. So
[19:20] Speaker 2: tap doe pdf is your search term tap space doe
[19:26] Speaker 2: space pdf and you get a PDF file. It's one
[19:29] Speaker 2: hundred pages. Came out right before nine to eleven, two
[19:31] Speaker 2: thousand and one, and it's the Department of Energy outlining
[19:35] Speaker 2: their program of tropospheric aerosol program, a sprain aerosol spraying program,
[19:40] Speaker 2: and they outline the whole thing. They spend millions of
[19:43] Speaker 2: dollars on on not getting exposed by the public, five
[19:46] Speaker 2: million dollars, and extrapolate their budget for years. This is
[19:48] Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, and they have drones and
[19:50] Speaker 2: planes and helicopters and all this stuff. Mixing chemicals. One
[19:53] Speaker 2: of the first tests that they outline in the page,
[19:57] Speaker 2: and it's very wordy. You have to really, I mean,
[20:00] Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time being obsessed with the
[20:02] Speaker 2: stock market, so I know how to kind of flip
[20:04] Speaker 2: through financials and find the nitty gritty. You know. They
[20:08] Speaker 2: really like to bullshit people in those financial documents, and
[20:10] Speaker 2: if you're not, if you don't know what they're saying,
[20:14] Speaker 2: you can get eaten alive by the fluff. You know,
[20:16] Speaker 2: they fluff things up to get you to invest in
[20:18] Speaker 2: their shit. But if they're not making a profit, they're
[20:19] Speaker 2: not making a profit or whatever. You know. So in
[20:22] Speaker 2: this document, it's very wordy, but I highly recommend anybody
[20:26] Speaker 2: on Earth that breeds air, that cares about sunlight to
[20:29] Speaker 2: take a gander at this because they reference precursor gases,
[20:33] Speaker 2: and precursor gases are things they mix in the sky
[20:37] Speaker 2: to mix with other longer looking trails, to like they're
[20:41] Speaker 2: mixing chemicals all the time. There's precursor gases that they
[20:44] Speaker 2: mix like primers to other gases that they mix. And
[20:47] Speaker 2: the precursor gases are like the primer planes, which are
[20:51] Speaker 2: what people call contrails, which are these short trails. So
[20:54] Speaker 2: even these short trails are actually something being put up
[20:56] Speaker 2: there to mix the soup with the other chemicals. And
[21:00] Speaker 2: and that starts to answer the question of like the
[21:02] Speaker 2: what's being sprayed A lot of different stuff. You can
[21:05] Speaker 2: see shorter trails, longer trails, medium trails, and it's primarily barium, aluminum,
[21:10] Speaker 2: and strontium, and that matches up with the patents and
[21:13] Speaker 2: matches up with the rain water when people see these
[21:15] Speaker 2: trails and they test the water and it lines up
[21:19] Speaker 2: and people have like come to conclusions of this over
[21:21] Speaker 2: you know, decades of you know, doing our own scientific analysis.
[21:27] Speaker 2: But the trumpspheric Aerosol Program document, it's it's so deep
[21:31] Speaker 2: because okay, that's just one program. The Department of Energy
[21:34] Speaker 2: launched a spraying program and they gritted in the document.
[21:37] Speaker 2: They gritted Nashville, Tennessee. They didn't pick some farmland that
[21:42] Speaker 2: they owned, which they own a lot of land. I mean,
[21:44] Speaker 2: they have power plants everywhere. They went over a very
[21:47] Speaker 2: well populated city and they there's there's like twenty lines
[21:50] Speaker 2: and they tell you they literally mix them together and
[21:53] Speaker 2: watched the airflow because it's it's in three it's in
[21:56] Speaker 2: three D. You've got air going up and down. And
[22:00] Speaker 2: to write they got to study all of this XYZ
[22:03] Speaker 2: and have things on the ground. And once they develop
[22:08] Speaker 2: the technology. They're not just spraying chemicals and mixing them together.
[22:11] Speaker 2: They're polarizing the chemicals. They're charging them negative and positive
[22:14] Speaker 2: so that they track to each other. They're making them
[22:16] Speaker 2: so that the chemicals mix and go in front of
[22:19] Speaker 2: the sun, because that's one of the big goals is
[22:20] Speaker 2: to drop, is to dim the sun. And they are
[22:26] Speaker 2: zapping them with ground based radio frequency stations that intersect
[22:31] Speaker 2: radio frequency waves that superheat these mixing aerosol chemicals to
[22:36] Speaker 2: cause heat waves and high pressure systems and whatnot. It
[22:38] Speaker 2: originated with this highly active HAARP. The higher ACTI of
[22:45] Speaker 2: a rural research program is this HARP antenna array in Alaska.
[22:49] Speaker 2: It's like this football field of antennas that are fifty
[22:53] Speaker 2: feet foot tall, and they pick a central location in
[22:56] Speaker 2: the atmosphere. It can be like a mile wide atmosphere location,
[23:01] Speaker 2: and they coordinate all these antennas to intersect radio waves
[23:05] Speaker 2: in this area of the atmosphere to superheat it. Research
[23:10] Speaker 2: has been going on for decades and now they've streanked
[23:12] Speaker 2: this technology into ionospheric heaters that are ground based. They're
[23:18] Speaker 2: disguised as this nextra addoppler radar stuff, but they're using
[23:21] Speaker 2: these stations. They claim they're Doppler radars, but they're not.
[23:24] Speaker 2: And they're mobile, and they're also on mountaintops and stuff,
[23:28] Speaker 2: and they're controlling the weathers and making heat waves and
[23:30] Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. So the trump ispheric Aerosol
[23:33] Speaker 2: program from the Department of Energy is one program that's ongoing,
[23:38] Speaker 2: and it's like it answers a lot of questions, who, what, why?
[23:40] Speaker 1: Where?
[23:40] Speaker 2: When?
[23:40] Speaker 4: How?
[23:41] Speaker 2: Because why would the Department of Energy this is dirty energy,
[23:46] Speaker 2: coal oil, Why would they want to dim the sun? Well,
[23:50] Speaker 2: maybe they don't want solar power to proliferate. Maybe they
[23:53] Speaker 2: want their control because they're free contrillionaires and they're evil
[23:57] Speaker 2: and they want their control over it all. Like I'm
[24:00] Speaker 2: watching documentaries and getting a grasp on this climate change narrative.
[24:04] Speaker 2: And guess who is the supposed opposition to the climate
[24:08] Speaker 2: change narrative saying climate change isn't real, which is not.
[24:12] Speaker 2: It's big oil and dirty energy, right, they're the ones
[24:16] Speaker 2: that is like controlling the other side of the argument,
[24:20] Speaker 2: which is the truth. But they're saying, oh, it's not heating,
[24:24] Speaker 2: it's the climate change argument is so insane because they
[24:27] Speaker 2: cause global warming with these heat waves that they create
[24:31] Speaker 2: and then they say, oh, look heat waves even though
[24:32] Speaker 2: the plant's not naturally heating, and sea level rises. Their
[24:35] Speaker 2: total nonsense, like if you think about that, it's not
[24:38] Speaker 2: even happening. But they use this narrative to push these
[24:41] Speaker 2: other agendas and to say, oh, well, we need a
[24:43] Speaker 2: geo engineer, we need to dim your sign, we need
[24:46] Speaker 2: to put smart meters on your homes, we need to
[24:48] Speaker 2: regulate your carbon emissions, and all this stuff. It's going
[24:49] Speaker 2: to get really weird. There's supposed to climate change, global
[24:52] Speaker 2: warming lockdowns coming in all this nonsense. So the WHO
[24:57] Speaker 2: one program is the Department of Energy. There's also NAS
[25:00] Speaker 2: and the CIA and all these other ongoing programs. But
[25:04] Speaker 2: just really quick, the this Department of Energy program they
[25:09] Speaker 2: have when they burn their coal in their smokestacks, they
[25:12] Speaker 2: have this stuff called coal fly ash. It's this these
[25:15] Speaker 2: this soot that's filtered, and this soot it's chocked full
[25:19] Speaker 2: of these heavy metals that they can easily refine and
[25:21] Speaker 2: get their aluminum nanoparticulates or their barium or their strontium
[25:27] Speaker 2: or whatever. So the what are they spraying It's either
[25:31] Speaker 2: refined or not non refined. Even coal fly ash. Why
[25:34] Speaker 2: are they spraying that, Well, they don't want to play.
[25:36] Speaker 2: They don't want to pay to dispose of it. You know,
[25:39] Speaker 2: somehow it's like toxic waste, and you know they have
[25:42] Speaker 2: to pay to dispose of it. But now they're being paid.
[25:44] Speaker 2: They're being paid to put it in the atmosphere through
[25:47] Speaker 2: the US MILTA industrial complex and the air Force smells whatnot.
[25:51] Speaker 2: It's it's totally complex. So who what why you talked
[25:55] Speaker 2: about that where I mean, there's power plants everywhere, so
[25:59] Speaker 2: they have the structure.
[26:01] Speaker 1: Now when it comes to the why, I've spoken with
[26:05] Speaker 1: a few researchers that are on board with there is
[26:10] Speaker 1: definitely something going on with our sun. There's a grand
[26:13] Speaker 1: solar minimum and their spring to slow down the effects
[26:17] Speaker 1: of what could cause a cataclysm on the planet. But
[26:21] Speaker 1: it's still, you know, horrible for the planet what they're doing.
[26:25] Speaker 1: But you're saying that all of this, like our Grand
[26:27] Speaker 1: Solar minimum is misinformation.
[26:30] Speaker 2: To me, it's it's totally fucking insulting bullshit, and it
[26:34] Speaker 2: like doesn't it makes me kind of nauseous And in
[26:37] Speaker 2: the end, it's like you got to go deep and
[26:40] Speaker 2: like ask what resonates with you man? And that is
[26:43] Speaker 2: like Q disinformation to get people not fighting someone blocking
[26:50] Speaker 2: their fucking sun. Bro It's unreal and whatever. People can
[26:54] Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people are not able to have
[26:59] Speaker 2: their own opinions, you know, but they've been nefariously spraying
[27:03] Speaker 2: I like bugs. If you watch my movie Franken's Guys.
[27:07] Speaker 2: They even sprayed radioactive cabinum on the city of Saint
[27:09] Speaker 2: Louis in the said seventies, even through station wagons and
[27:12] Speaker 2: on rooftops and planes to see how many kids would
[27:15] Speaker 2: die from it. You know, they've been experimenting on the
[27:17] Speaker 2: population for a long time, the misinformation campaigns. So basically,
[27:22] Speaker 2: here's what happened. The Black Panthers came out in the
[27:26] Speaker 2: sixties and the US government didn't really have them on
[27:31] Speaker 2: a leash, so they infiltrated them. They got them under control.
[27:36] Speaker 2: That was kind of scary for them. They were like whoa, well, whoa,
[27:40] Speaker 2: we almost lost control of our shit. So since then,
[27:44] Speaker 2: they've been through autism and vaccines, they've been targeting the
[27:47] Speaker 2: African American male, and the male in general has been
[27:51] Speaker 2: like targeted in the United States from birth. They've fragmented
[27:55] Speaker 2: the family unit through replacing the family unit with the television,
[28:01] Speaker 2: and then the iPad is now in the laugh of
[28:03] Speaker 2: the child. I mean it's transgrissing to that and eventually
[28:05] Speaker 2: transhumanism and whatnot. I mean, that's just deeper down the
[28:08] Speaker 2: rabbit hole. But we've basically got a system where the
[28:16] Speaker 2: US military Industrial Complex, the CIA, whoever, these nefarious behind
[28:20] Speaker 2: the scenes, the shadow government or whatever. Since the sixties,
[28:24] Speaker 2: they've had everything on lock Man like, they confuse everybody.
[28:29] Speaker 2: They have these misinformation campaigns mapped out by supercomputers to
[28:34] Speaker 2: polarize every argument. Everything's polarized. So now you've got the
[28:38] Speaker 2: activist community to be like, no, the kim trails are good.
[28:41] Speaker 2: They're actually keeping us. They're making a good global warming
[28:46] Speaker 2: for us to create a greenhouse effect because of the
[28:48] Speaker 2: Grand Soul and momentum because of the sun and whatever. Dude,
[28:51] Speaker 2: NASA is lying Nazis from Operation paper Clip. NASA is
[28:57] Speaker 2: totally evil. They have the charge airsol release care program
[29:01] Speaker 2: that's all kim trails. They have a patents that go
[29:04] Speaker 2: back to the late seventies barium release rockets like all
[29:07] Speaker 2: of like a lot of the kim trail programs are NASA.
[29:10] Speaker 2: They publicly do it and they make noct tol lousen clouds.
[29:12] Speaker 2: They pret spray barium aluminum strontium. Okay, these forests have
[29:16] Speaker 2: been sprayed with aluminum oxide patented fire accelerants. They know
[29:20] Speaker 2: how to make rain, period, they know how to make
[29:24] Speaker 2: rain on forest fires. They know how to make rain
[29:25] Speaker 2: on drought. They're not doing it okay. Like like the
[29:30] Speaker 2: the agenda of control through the aerosol program, it includes
[29:34] Speaker 2: weather and modification programs. If they were doing good things
[29:39] Speaker 2: for the world, they would freaking make it rain on
[29:42] Speaker 2: the forest fires instead of watching cities burn. They would
[29:45] Speaker 2: make it rain on drought stricken communities instead of acting
[29:49] Speaker 2: like they don't know how, you know. And at the
[29:53] Speaker 2: end of the day, like the truth would really speak
[29:55] Speaker 2: for everything, but no, no grand solar minimum in my
[29:57] Speaker 2: humble opinion, and that it really spins out of control,
[30:04] Speaker 2: you know, the efforts of the Truth, which is like
[30:07] Speaker 2: they have to stop the spraying, you know, when I'm
[30:10] Speaker 2: trying to rally my fellow human beings and they've infiltrated
[30:16] Speaker 2: the Truth community even with this nonsense. It's it's kind
[30:21] Speaker 2: of insulting and offensive and like like a lot of
[30:24] Speaker 2: it is like actual like CIA agents honestly like spreading it.
[30:29] Speaker 2: But some people don't know and they're just like they
[30:31] Speaker 2: get the data where they getting the data from NASA,
[30:33] Speaker 2: like don't, don't, don't feed me some shit and then
[30:36] Speaker 2: and then quote NASA at the very end, because NASA
[30:40] Speaker 2: has a budget of fifty two million dollars a day. People,
[30:43] Speaker 2: fifty two million dollars a day, and all they do
[30:46] Speaker 2: is live. Okay, it's all fabrications. It's dismantling, like like
[30:52] Speaker 2: we're very powerful spiritual beings, believe it or not. And
[30:55] Speaker 2: if we're believing fabrications and we're resonating falsehoods and we're
[30:59] Speaker 2: like own lies since childhood, like NASA lies, like they
[31:04] Speaker 2: just put this drone helicopter on Mars and elon Muskus,
[31:08] Speaker 2: shooting convertibles into space and all of it's all of
[31:11] Speaker 2: it is an insult to our humanity, right, But if
[31:14] Speaker 2: we are believing in it, be lie being it, you know,
[31:18] Speaker 2: like the breakdown of the words and all this witchcraft
[31:20] Speaker 2: theory to it's because they know how powerful we are man,
[31:24] Speaker 2: and if we start believing all these falsehoods, we lose
[31:26] Speaker 2: our power. We don't even realize it. That's all.
[31:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to agree with you on the whole
[31:31] Speaker 1: massive thing. Now, there's so much that I want to
[31:33] Speaker 1: get to and address. The next thing is as far
[31:37] Speaker 1: as components of what they're spraying and the dangers and
[31:41] Speaker 1: the effects.
[31:43] Speaker 3: We've had.
[31:45] Speaker 1: People talk about more gellons, nanotechnology, nanobots, all these terrifying
[31:54] Speaker 1: things that they that are they're claiming are being sprayed
[31:57] Speaker 1: in the air with this other these other ingredients that
[32:01] Speaker 1: you spoke of. Now, I'm wondering if you have come
[32:03] Speaker 1: across this in any of your research.
[32:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I'm the chemtrell dude. So like I
[32:09] Speaker 2: hosted the third Global Chimtrell, I've hosted three major chimstrel
[32:15] Speaker 2: conferences in a row. First in Vancouver, Canada, then in Portland, Oregon,
[32:20] Speaker 2: and then in Tucson, Arizona. The one in Tucson, Arizona
[32:23] Speaker 2: dismantled this big experiment that Bill Gates was going to
[32:26] Speaker 2: do down there to dim the sun. It was a
[32:28] Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Now they've moved to Sweden. They're
[32:30] Speaker 2: going to do it next year. They're gonna dim the sun.
[32:32] Speaker 2: They're gonna go, oh, look, we got the chemicals that work.
[32:34] Speaker 2: We should do this everywhere to save us. You're welcome,
[32:36] Speaker 2: you guys. We're just gonna, you know, send you the
[32:38] Speaker 2: bill and not let you go outside for a few years.
[32:40] Speaker 2: Your smart meterer will be watching you. A the constituents,
[32:47] Speaker 2: the constituents of the spraying well, first, as they normalize it,
[32:53] Speaker 2: they want us to think that they're going to experiment
[32:55] Speaker 2: with diamond dust and mirrors. And then they have this
[32:58] Speaker 2: idea of using different variable sizes of aluminum oxide nano
[33:03] Speaker 2: particulate aluminum because it floats in the air really well
[33:06] Speaker 2: and it reflects back the light and creates this albedo effect,
[33:09] Speaker 2: like this cloud layer that they're really happy about. So
[33:13] Speaker 2: when I had the third conference at Clifford, Carnacom come speak,
[33:17] Speaker 2: he's like the Morgallons dude, the main Carnacom institute. He's
[33:21] Speaker 2: like the guy who supposedly discovered mor gallons and all
[33:24] Speaker 2: this stuff. And it's really deep, man, this is this
[33:27] Speaker 2: like is it fear mongering? Is it real? People do
[33:31] Speaker 2: have these afflictions. At first, they were called it was
[33:35] Speaker 2: called a psychosis, and they were rejected at the doctor's
[33:37] Speaker 2: office because in their medical books it was a psychosis
[33:40] Speaker 2: that these red technology kind of and blue fibers coming
[33:46] Speaker 2: out of their skin were actually through a mind psychosis,
[33:51] Speaker 2: like you are crazy and making it happen. It was
[33:55] Speaker 2: the official stance up until like two years ago. Now
[33:57] Speaker 2: they say it's coming from limes disease and it's a
[33:59] Speaker 2: symptom of that. So that the official narrative was already
[34:03] Speaker 2: really weird, and and that is it makes me really
[34:06] Speaker 2: question it. I I do believe it's real, and I'm
[34:10] Speaker 2: and I and I have a huge heart, and for
[34:12] Speaker 2: people that are going through it and suffering through it,
[34:14] Speaker 2: it's it's it's sad. I also do believe that there
[34:17] Speaker 2: is immense power in controlling narratives and making everybody freak
[34:22] Speaker 2: the fuck out, like fear is so powerful and fear
[34:26] Speaker 2: is palpable, and especially in the truth community where we're
[34:29] Speaker 2: resonating with truth and we're really strong and powerful, if
[34:31] Speaker 2: you dismantle our our progression and momentum with these really
[34:35] Speaker 2: scary things like what we've all got nanobots and U said,
[34:38] Speaker 2: we're all going to be turned into robots the flip
[34:40] Speaker 2: of the switch once they turn on the five G
[34:41] Speaker 2: which is already in place with satellites, and we're gonna
[34:44] Speaker 2: all die. This lockdown, space fence, all this stuff. It
[34:49] Speaker 2: dismantles our human spirit. We already love lost hope, we've
[34:52] Speaker 2: already lost the battle, you know. And so the more gallons,
[35:00] Speaker 2: I just you know, is there conclusive evidence to show
[35:04] Speaker 2: that the afflictions that people are having is coming from
[35:09] Speaker 2: the chemtrails? That's a really good question, and I'm very
[35:13] Speaker 2: well researched on the topic, and I would I would say, maybe,
[35:18] Speaker 2: you know, is it possibly coming from GMO foods? Fuck? Yeah, man,
[35:23] Speaker 2: Like that's that's really well.
[35:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they they they're poisonous at all angles,
[35:28] Speaker 1: so you can't really avoid any of it. Food, water,
[35:31] Speaker 1: and air, you know, everything surrounding us we're being poisoned by.
[35:36] Speaker 1: But you know, when it comes to more gillons and
[35:41] Speaker 1: these maybe nano technologies, and you mentioned five G, that
[35:46] Speaker 1: was that was a big thing for a while, saying
[35:48] Speaker 1: that they're going to link up whatever the sprains are
[35:50] Speaker 1: five G and flip the switch and we're all gonna die.
[35:55] Speaker 1: Now do you think that there is any I don't know,
[36:00] Speaker 1: connection to five G that would be possible.
[36:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all connected. And the nanotech it does exist,
[36:08] Speaker 2: and they have nanotech like swarming technology here's the deal. Okay,
[36:14] Speaker 2: the nefarious like behind the scenes sociopaths that are really
[36:20] Speaker 2: controlling the shadow government that like tell the president what
[36:23] Speaker 2: to do and all this stuff. Those the real people
[36:26] Speaker 2: in charge, whether they the Rothschilds or whoever, or you know,
[36:32] Speaker 2: evil aliens or whatever it may be. You know. And
[36:35] Speaker 2: as far as like the aliens thing, I don't think
[36:37] Speaker 2: that there's aliens from space. I think that they've been
[36:40] Speaker 2: done here, been done. They're here, and maybe they're in
[36:43] Speaker 2: the mountains and stuff, or their shape shifters if they're here.
[36:45] Speaker 2: But the whole idea of like this disclosure of like,
[36:48] Speaker 2: oh the aliens came from space and they got the
[36:50] Speaker 2: cure for COVID, we love you or we don't. It's
[36:53] Speaker 2: it's all nonsense. They're trying to dismantle us even further
[36:56] Speaker 2: with their lies. If there was a disclosure, it wouldn't
[37:01] Speaker 2: come from our shady government. Firstly. So the nanotech is
[37:07] Speaker 2: is fascinating and it's real, but they have to slowly
[37:10] Speaker 2: disclose these things to us. They can't just come out
[37:13] Speaker 2: and assault us and flip the switch and kill us all.
[37:15] Speaker 2: They could have done that a long time ago. They're
[37:17] Speaker 2: slowly spoon feeding us the technology to adopt transhumanism and
[37:22] Speaker 2: actually ask for it, you know, because there's some weird
[37:27] Speaker 2: consent here. I don't know if it's the karma thing
[37:30] Speaker 2: that they have to play by the rules or God's
[37:32] Speaker 2: hand or just come and you know, Noah's arkasol or something,
[37:35] Speaker 2: but there's something really true about this. The powers that
[37:41] Speaker 2: be they have to slowly do what they're doing to us.
[37:45] Speaker 2: So maybe there is nanotech slowly infiltrating, but they can't
[37:49] Speaker 2: just slip the switch on tomorrow and kill us all
[37:50] Speaker 2: because there's some rules. There's some rules here, you know,
[37:57] Speaker 2: and they know the rules, which is really kind of
[38:00] Speaker 2: not fair because we're playing the same game as them.
[38:03] Speaker 2: But we're learning as we evolve, and I you know,
[38:07] Speaker 2: that's a proponent. That is a component of it all.
[38:11] Speaker 2: It's very much happening. But I think that so much
[38:16] Speaker 2: of the conversation about it all is dismantling and it
[38:20] Speaker 2: makes people just feel like that they've already lost. If
[38:23] Speaker 2: we are up to speed on our minerals, for instance,
[38:25] Speaker 2: this is empowering. Hey, this is the opposite of the
[38:28] Speaker 2: disempowerment fear mongering stuff. If you're up to speed, on
[38:30] Speaker 2: your minerals and you've got mineral supplements, or you're eating
[38:33] Speaker 2: really well and you don't eat too much sugar. Like,
[38:35] Speaker 2: here's an empowering fact. Every molecule of sugar that you ingest,
[38:40] Speaker 2: it takes fifty four molecules of magnesium in your body
[38:43] Speaker 2: to process one molecule of the sugar. So if we
[38:47] Speaker 2: ingest sugar, which a lot of us do, we got
[38:49] Speaker 2: to get some magnesium in our bodies through maybe leafy
[38:52] Speaker 2: greams or other ways or supplements. But if we don't,
[38:55] Speaker 2: we're deficient and magnesium. Okay, fifty four to one ratio,
[38:59] Speaker 2: we've diplenished a lot of magnesium. So what happens when
[39:02] Speaker 2: we're minerals deficient. We start trying to absorb things that
[39:05] Speaker 2: might be minerals from our toxic environment, so the air,
[39:09] Speaker 2: the water, the food. Maybe try to get better food,
[39:12] Speaker 2: but you know, you can't necessarily sidestep the fluoride in
[39:18] Speaker 2: a shower that you're having or whatever. And if your
[39:21] Speaker 2: body is mineral deficient and it's absorbing things into your
[39:24] Speaker 2: bones because it needs that magnesium, which helps the calcium
[39:27] Speaker 2: build the bones and whatnot, it needs it, so it's
[39:30] Speaker 2: absorbing radioactive strontium from the air or fluoride from the water,
[39:35] Speaker 2: Otherwise it wouldn't be absorbing it. And it's absorbing these
[39:37] Speaker 2: things in your bone, and it thinks it's calcium because
[39:39] Speaker 2: it's similar to it on the periodic tables. Absorbing these
[39:41] Speaker 2: things in your bones, you wouldn't even have these problems
[39:44] Speaker 2: if you were just up to speed on your minerals.
[39:46] Speaker 2: So instead of being a defeatist and being defeated by
[39:49] Speaker 2: this Morgellons that's out there, you know, we're all going
[39:51] Speaker 2: to become robots or whatever. We do have a choice,
[39:54] Speaker 2: and we can be empowered through the truth and detox
[39:59] Speaker 2: and you know, raise our vibration. I firmly believe that
[40:01] Speaker 2: we're at a threshold in our evolution that we will
[40:04] Speaker 2: evolve beyond, not necessarily beyond physicality, but beyond the evil
[40:11] Speaker 2: physical shit that they're bombarding us with, like their weapons,
[40:14] Speaker 2: will beyond a frequency that we will not even necessarily
[40:18] Speaker 2: exist on. So it won't even they won't even impact
[40:21] Speaker 2: us necessarily as long as we can continue to evolve
[40:23] Speaker 2: and rise out of fear. You know, frequency control is
[40:28] Speaker 2: really real. So what was I know you asked a
[40:32] Speaker 2: different question, but I wanted to just address the nano
[40:34] Speaker 2: box thing really quick.
[40:36] Speaker 1: Well, we were talking about the nanotechnology, and you know,
[40:39] Speaker 1: if you think that they are integrating.
[40:41] Speaker 2: This with five G five G so yes, you know
[40:46] Speaker 2: the five G cell towers, they create winds that make fires.
[40:53] Speaker 2: They may even make these fires that are tearing up
[40:56] Speaker 2: these towns. Like we've got an Internet of Things integrated
[40:59] Speaker 2: system where smart meters are connected to cell towers that
[41:03] Speaker 2: are being put up everywhere for the five G infrastructure.
[41:06] Speaker 2: And if you've got an illuminized air, silized sky air,
[41:12] Speaker 2: if you've got a metallic air, and you've got electricity
[41:17] Speaker 2: being pulsed through the air that go into every single
[41:20] Speaker 2: home because of smart meters, you've got this integrated system.
[41:23] Speaker 2: And then you start putting metal in everyone's bodies and
[41:27] Speaker 2: then you say, oh, come on, we got to give
[41:28] Speaker 2: you an mRNA altering they call it, I mean in
[41:33] Speaker 2: some publications they're calling it nanotech already, but slowly but sure,
[41:36] Speaker 2: they're going to be putting nanotech in everyone's bodies and
[41:38] Speaker 2: getting them too consent. Okay, this is like a consensual thing.
[41:41] Speaker 2: This isn't just like we're going to attack you behind
[41:43] Speaker 2: the scenes and flip the Suitch and everyone's dead. They
[41:46] Speaker 2: have to, like, they want our consent. They want to
[41:48] Speaker 2: slowly turn this into cyborgs, you know, and have us
[41:51] Speaker 2: happy about it.
[41:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, in twenty twenty, you was pretty obvious there was
[41:55] Speaker 1: an all out psychological warfare campaign on us, the people.
[42:00] Speaker 1: What do you think is behind the whole COVID vaccine agenda.
[42:05] Speaker 1: I mean obviously it's connected to, you know, some kind
[42:08] Speaker 1: of depopulation agenda and my personal belief What do you think.
[42:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's it's it's very deep. The COVID thing
[42:18] Speaker 2: is deep. And that's cool that we're not on a
[42:20] Speaker 2: platform that's going to get see. I lost I lost
[42:24] Speaker 2: my YouTube channel. Man, it was so heartbreaking. It was
[42:27] Speaker 2: one two three strike sure out.
[42:28] Speaker 3: All this on YouTube.
[42:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was old videos and they said and because
[42:33] Speaker 2: I talked about COVID, they said I was spreading medical
[42:35] Speaker 2: misinformation and bam, all my stuff was gone. And it's like,
[42:39] Speaker 2: you know, I mean almost video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so okay,
[42:43] Speaker 2: COVID is nonsense. COVID has is a rebranding of the
[42:47] Speaker 2: flu and of the seasonal cold and hardly much more.
[42:51] Speaker 2: But also it is a smoke screen for the roll
[42:55] Speaker 2: out of five G. I've learned, but not the way
[42:57] Speaker 2: that they say. So when when it first came out,
[43:01] Speaker 2: there was a misinformation flood, and if you research event
[43:04] Speaker 2: to a one, the Bill Gates supercomputer thing with the
[43:07] Speaker 2: virus that went around the world that they did right
[43:09] Speaker 2: before COVID, this event too. One ran the whole thing
[43:12] Speaker 2: through a supercomputer. What we're what we're experiencing and what
[43:17] Speaker 2: happened in real life was plugged into the supercomputer, and
[43:20] Speaker 2: that's where they kept like altering the story. And I
[43:23] Speaker 2: swear they threw in at the very end the anal
[43:27] Speaker 2: swabs just to see our reaction, to get more information,
[43:30] Speaker 2: to put it in the computer to see how we
[43:32] Speaker 2: reacted to that, because they're gonna push, push, push until
[43:34] Speaker 2: we push back, and how are we going to push back?
[43:36] Speaker 2: You know, the more data, the better for them. But
[43:39] Speaker 2: so what they did when COVID first came out is
[43:44] Speaker 2: there was a flood of viral mind you nonsensored conspiratorial
[43:50] Speaker 2: stuff about five G is COVID. COVID is five G.
[43:54] Speaker 2: And we were told that the towers were turned on
[43:59] Speaker 2: in Wuhan and people were dropping dead. They were like
[44:02] Speaker 2: having seizures on the street and people were saying it's
[44:05] Speaker 2: from the oxygen leaving their lungs, from the five G
[44:08] Speaker 2: being turned on, or whatever's with the scientific, supposed activist,
[44:12] Speaker 2: supposed community was saying. And then also seventy seven five
[44:16] Speaker 2: G towers were burned in the UK. They were attacked
[44:18] Speaker 2: and burned. And I believe that this viral news was misinformation,
[44:24] Speaker 2: disinformation campaign to make people making an association between COVID
[44:29] Speaker 2: and five G look crazy, because it was a crazy
[44:32] Speaker 2: assumption and it was viral and people were all spun
[44:35] Speaker 2: out on it. But people did come to my website
[44:37] Speaker 2: and start behind my stuff and asking for shirts. So
[44:39] Speaker 2: I made shirt and sweatshirts and all this stuff because
[44:42] Speaker 2: I was happy to progress. I was happy to advance
[44:45] Speaker 2: the company. I didn't think it was going to go
[44:47] Speaker 2: so fast, but people's paranoia helped. But it was viral stuff,
[44:50] Speaker 2: and I was questioning, you know, why is this going viral?
[44:53] Speaker 2: And it kind of got diffused, you know, and there
[44:58] Speaker 2: was all this media on all the mainstream New York Times,
[45:01] Speaker 2: Washington Post, USA today that crazy conspiracy theorists were actually
[45:05] Speaker 2: like domestic terrorists for thinking this nonsense, and that COVID
[45:09] Speaker 2: needs to be addressed and it has nothing to do
[45:11] Speaker 2: with you know, and those crazy conspiracy theorists will later
[45:14] Speaker 2: be anti vaxers and all this stuff, and don't believe them.
[45:17] Speaker 2: You know. It's very it's psychological warfare. It's very smart. Well,
[45:22] Speaker 2: guess what I make These phone bags. They're Faraday bags.
[45:24] Speaker 2: They're silver lined. You drop your phone in these Faraday
[45:27] Speaker 2: bags and you have no signal, no tracking, no GPS,
[45:32] Speaker 2: no text messages, whatever. And people like the bags for privacy,
[45:35] Speaker 2: especially for COVID tracking and what have you. So what
[45:39] Speaker 2: happened was very fascinating. I had been selling these bags
[45:43] Speaker 2: for a few years. Other companies have been selling these
[45:48] Speaker 2: bags as well. Okay, I've found other companies selling my
[45:51] Speaker 2: same bags that they were like twenty five bucks, and
[45:55] Speaker 2: they were this silver fabric made overseas, and silver fabric
[46:00] Speaker 2: is very popular in Korea and Japan and China for
[46:03] Speaker 2: protecting pregnant women. So it's just like standard silver fabric
[46:07] Speaker 2: that's really strong, that will kill any cell phone you
[46:09] Speaker 2: put it in, doesn't work inside the Faraday bag. So,
[46:13] Speaker 2: right when COVID happened, people started calling me in March
[46:17] Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, right was it March twenty nineteen no,
[46:22] Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so is March twenty twenty.
[46:26] Speaker 2: The dude time I froze. When COVID happened, My world froze.
[46:31] Speaker 2: And yeah, it's undreal. So you know so much, We've
[46:34] Speaker 2: grown so much, and I've changed so much. I look
[46:36] Speaker 2: back on who I was one year ago. I'm just like, man,
[46:38] Speaker 2: they said two weeks the whole world changed, and here
[46:40] Speaker 2: we are. So it was March twenty twenty, and customers
[46:44] Speaker 2: are calling me really upset. The phone bags don't work.
[46:47] Speaker 2: They worked before, they didn't get phone calls in front,
[46:50] Speaker 2: inside the bag, and now they're getting calls right through
[46:53] Speaker 2: the bag. And I'm like, that's really weird. What kind
[46:55] Speaker 2: of phone do you have? Where do you live? A
[46:57] Speaker 2: lot of people had iPhones, iPhone eights, stuff like that.
[47:00] Speaker 2: My friend in La he has an iPhone eight. It's
[47:03] Speaker 2: like the phone bag dotn't work, dude. This guy in Flint,
[47:06] Speaker 2: Michigan had an older iPhone. The phone bag don't work, bro.
[47:10] Speaker 2: People in Fort Lauderdale, Florida to your phone bag don't work.
[47:14] Speaker 2: And it freaked me out, you know, and I didn't
[47:16] Speaker 2: know what the heck was going on. And I contacted
[47:18] Speaker 2: my supplier and I was like, what are we going
[47:19] Speaker 2: to do about this? And they were like, well, we
[47:21] Speaker 2: can make double layered bags if you want. So I
[47:24] Speaker 2: doubled up the bags double layered before didn't have to
[47:28] Speaker 2: do it, double the layered, send them to all the
[47:31] Speaker 2: people that were pissed off, and they're happy customers. The
[47:33] Speaker 2: bags now work, and now I just sell the double
[47:36] Speaker 2: layered bags. So what happened there? Very curious what happened there.
[47:41] Speaker 2: When you start to learn about five G and what
[47:44] Speaker 2: it really is, it's not this two GPGG four G.
[47:47] Speaker 2: It's a totally new technology to push around these radio
[47:51] Speaker 2: waves that are so small that are measured in millimeters. Hey,
[47:56] Speaker 2: a penny is one and a half millimeters wide. These
[48:00] Speaker 2: frequencies are about that size. They're measured in millimeters between
[48:04] Speaker 2: one and eight one and nine one in five millimeters,
[48:07] Speaker 2: very small sized waves. Before that we're talking. Four G
[48:12] Speaker 2: is measured in centimeters. Wi Fi is like thirty centimeters.
[48:16] Speaker 2: An AM radio wave is one hundred feet, an FM
[48:19] Speaker 2: radio wave is ten feet. All of this invisible smart
[48:22] Speaker 2: technology is all radio waves. It's all actual light waves
[48:26] Speaker 2: that we're carrying information on. And the smaller the wave.
[48:30] Speaker 2: The more oscillations we can have per second, the faster
[48:32] Speaker 2: it is, but the less distance it can travel. So
[48:36] Speaker 2: these five G carrier waves that they're carrying all this
[48:38] Speaker 2: data on nowadays and trying to set up this infrastructure
[48:40] Speaker 2: for and have fast download speeds on these phones, these
[48:44] Speaker 2: radio frequency waves cannot travel very far. They absorb in
[48:47] Speaker 2: everything they hit. They can only go like five hundred
[48:50] Speaker 2: feet according to the telecom agencies. Some places are saying
[48:53] Speaker 2: like fifteen hundred feet, but they're not going far. They're
[48:57] Speaker 2: not going miles, they're going feet, Okay, So to get
[49:03] Speaker 2: the infrastructure totally dialed in to have these five G
[49:06] Speaker 2: technology even work all right, and so right now it's
[49:10] Speaker 2: like cities are only launching their five G you know,
[49:12] Speaker 2: it's not like a nationwide thing. It's different telecom providers.
[49:16] Speaker 2: But before it to work, these phones are actually pushing
[49:20] Speaker 2: the signal that are helping push the signal a long.
[49:23] Speaker 2: They're like a relay. So instead of before you like
[49:26] Speaker 2: send your text out and it goes and finds the
[49:28] Speaker 2: closest cell tower and sends it off into the world,
[49:31] Speaker 2: now you're pushing the signal of everyone's signal another five
[49:34] Speaker 2: hundred feet. So these phones are just cranking like up
[49:39] Speaker 2: to like fifty times more radiation than before, all right,
[49:42] Speaker 2: especially smartphones, especially in these in these cities like La
[49:47] Speaker 2: where there are hot spots for COVID. So I'm a
[49:50] Speaker 2: really I'm a stickler for correlation versus causation. I took
[49:54] Speaker 2: like really intense statistics classes for my MBA, and it's like,
[49:58] Speaker 2: I don't like saying, oh, that's causal when it's corollary.
[50:04] Speaker 2: Like the Kimtrail documentaries that I first thought were okay,
[50:07] Speaker 2: but then they really pushed a lot of people away.
[50:09] Speaker 2: They're showing bushes that were like dead bushes, and they
[50:12] Speaker 2: showed the Kim Trails, like obviously it's the Kim Trails
[50:14] Speaker 2: causing the bushes to die, and that's a correlation. They're
[50:17] Speaker 2: spraying and the bushes are dead. It's corollary. You know.
[50:21] Speaker 2: I could also go out there and fart and say, oh,
[50:23] Speaker 2: my fart killed it, you know, or the cal farts
[50:25] Speaker 2: did that or whatever, like cow farts equal global warming.
[50:28] Speaker 2: It's a correlation. It's not causal. We haven't we haven't
[50:31] Speaker 2: proved it yet, but people don't understand correlation versus causation,
[50:35] Speaker 2: you know, they get caught up in these things. So
[50:37] Speaker 2: I'm not one to jump to conclusions. So I like to,
[50:40] Speaker 2: you know, think things through. So friend back home where
[50:43] Speaker 2: I grew up in Washington, DC area, he works for
[50:47] Speaker 2: a government job, like one of these government contractors Booze
[50:52] Speaker 2: Alan or North of Grumman or something. It's all back home,
[50:55] Speaker 2: and he contacted me recently said, Hey, Matt, I saw
[50:58] Speaker 2: you on Facebook talking about COVID. I just want you
[51:00] Speaker 2: to know I got it and it's real. I go, okay,
[51:03] Speaker 2: well tell me that your symptoms. I want to know.
[51:05] Speaker 2: I'm an open mind and I want to know I haven't.
[51:08] Speaker 2: I don't jump I have hypotheses on all sorts of things,
[51:11] Speaker 2: and I don't jump to conclusions. I'm not going to
[51:13] Speaker 2: sit here and say that the whole narrative on the
[51:18] Speaker 2: Grand Solar Minimum is bullshit unless I've really done some
[51:21] Speaker 2: deep investigation and my gut, you know all these things.
[51:25] Speaker 2: But it's just like, come on, like, we can't polarize
[51:28] Speaker 2: this argument of Kim Trail's. They're bad. Okay, they're nefarious.
[51:30] Speaker 2: Let's get behind it and bring some scrutiny and transparency
[51:33] Speaker 2: to something that's ongoing and bad and evil because ultimately
[51:36] Speaker 2: want to dim our Son, not just control our weather
[51:38] Speaker 2: and make hurricanes and trout and these horrible weather things.
[51:41] Speaker 2: They want to spray us with chemicals, experiment on us,
[51:44] Speaker 2: and dem our Son to control that. That's like totally
[51:46] Speaker 2: evil shit. So I asked my friend what happened? What
[51:51] Speaker 2: were your symptoms? And he goes, well, you know what,
[51:53] Speaker 2: now that you ask is very funny. I didn't have
[51:56] Speaker 2: typical virus symptoms. I didn't have a fever, I didn't
[51:59] Speaker 2: get sick like that or stomach ache or throw up
[52:01] Speaker 2: or anything. But what happened was is I lost my
[52:04] Speaker 2: sense of taste and I just was confused, like I
[52:07] Speaker 2: couldn't think clearly for a couple of weeks. So I
[52:10] Speaker 2: didn't go to work and I was like anything else,
[52:12] Speaker 2: It's like no, And I go, okay, can I ask
[52:14] Speaker 2: you a question? What kind of phone do you have?
[52:17] Speaker 2: And he goes, what do you mean like a smartphone?
[52:19] Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, yeah, he's well, me and
[52:21] Speaker 2: my wife just got the new iPhone, you know, iPhone
[52:24] Speaker 2: eleven MAXs or whatever. And I'm like, well, what did
[52:29] Speaker 2: you have before that? And he goes, well, not an iPhone.
[52:30] Speaker 2: We had this droid or whatever, And I'm like, well,
[52:33] Speaker 2: would you ever consider that loss of taste and brain
[52:37] Speaker 2: fog are radiation sickness symptoms, and that after a couple
[52:41] Speaker 2: of weeks of being exposed to the source of the radiation,
[52:46] Speaker 2: your body adjusts, because that's what happens. I read this
[52:48] Speaker 2: book by Arthur Furstenberg called The Invisible Rainbow, and it's
[52:53] Speaker 2: theorizing exactly this, that our bodies are just adjusting to
[52:57] Speaker 2: a crank an uptick in the radiation, and that's what
[53:00] Speaker 2: the Spanish flu was, and that's what this whole COVID
[53:03] Speaker 2: thing is and what have you. But at the end
[53:05] Speaker 2: of the day, like the death toll didn't rise compared
[53:09] Speaker 2: to last year, like the COVID is, it's pretty much nonsense.
[53:12] Speaker 2: It's a rebranding of the flu, it's a rebranding of
[53:15] Speaker 2: the cold. But also I think it's a smoke screen
[53:18] Speaker 2: for the launch of five G because all these people
[53:20] Speaker 2: would be questioning why they're feeling sick because they got
[53:22] Speaker 2: these new phones that are on this new network, or
[53:25] Speaker 2: even why their iPhone eight is just emitting all this
[53:28] Speaker 2: more radiation they're getting sick off of it because the
[53:31] Speaker 2: five G infrastructure is a totally new tech and to
[53:34] Speaker 2: get your phone and the phones around you on this
[53:37] Speaker 2: new tech. It's totally different than the tech that we're
[53:41] Speaker 2: used to. So it's amitting way more radiation which is
[53:44] Speaker 2: absorbing into our body, bation in the size of the
[53:45] Speaker 2: carrier wave two, and it may even cause massive birth
[53:50] Speaker 2: problems in the future. I think that five G, along
[53:54] Speaker 2: with all the agendas at once, fluoride energy of mo
[53:57] Speaker 2: foods and whatnot, especially the covidvexs, mean I do think
[54:01] Speaker 2: that it's a depopulation agenda. Children of Men. If you
[54:04] Speaker 2: haven't seen Children of Men or Handmaid's Tale, the movie
[54:09] Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety, or even Demolition Man or Total Recall
[54:15] Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen films, these are predictive programming, propaganda machine kind
[54:21] Speaker 2: of things. Like Arnold Schwarzeneger in the movie Total Recall,
[54:24] Speaker 2: he didn't go to Mars. He got a chip in
[54:26] Speaker 2: his head. Okay, and there's crazy terrorism and all these
[54:29] Speaker 2: fear tactics and all this whatnot, but at the end
[54:32] Speaker 2: he didn't go. He just got to chip in his head. Like,
[54:36] Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really is going to go to Mars.
[54:39] Speaker 2: And I think Elon Musk and these predators are gonna
[54:41] Speaker 2: put ships in people's heads with memories of his Mars
[54:44] Speaker 2: journeys to push this transhumanism agenda through this excitement of
[54:48] Speaker 2: space exploration through NASA, who's totally evil. So don't go
[54:52] Speaker 2: quoting NASA anymore on me and trying to say this
[54:54] Speaker 2: is fact people. So yeah, and then what else with COVID.
[55:00] Speaker 2: So lastly, these masks, these blue masks that everyone's wearing,
[55:04] Speaker 2: these are one time use medical masks, one time used
[55:08] Speaker 2: medical masks. Whether is the membrane that we're breathing through.
[55:11] Speaker 2: You can look this up. Poly tetra floral ethylene PTFE.
[55:17] Speaker 2: You can just type into Google TFE masks and they'll
[55:20] Speaker 2: show you pictures of these masks they're handing you at
[55:22] Speaker 2: the grocery store. Okay, you try to walk into a
[55:25] Speaker 2: grocery store. I know a lot of that's changing now,
[55:26] Speaker 2: which is very fascinating, which I want to talk about. Okay,
[55:28] Speaker 2: really quick. What's unreal right now is depending on where
[55:33] Speaker 2: you are, what city, what county, what state, what country,
[55:36] Speaker 2: what part of the world. If you're in London or
[55:39] Speaker 2: you're in New York, it's a little different. The rules
[55:43] Speaker 2: that they're subjecting you to the freedoms that they're taking away.
[55:46] Speaker 2: So if humanity was going to rise up and be like,
[55:49] Speaker 2: fuck this, we're not wearing our masks, well, it's like
[55:52] Speaker 2: some of us aren't anymore. Some of us are. So
[55:55] Speaker 2: it's like the New World Order that's trying to mess
[55:59] Speaker 2: with humanity right now. They're so smart and strategic that
[56:03] Speaker 2: we don't even if we were gonna rise up and
[56:04] Speaker 2: fight right now, it would be confusing. You know. We
[56:08] Speaker 2: can't all come together on one thing because they're giving
[56:10] Speaker 2: us writes back and taking them away at the same time.
[56:12] Speaker 2: It's so tactical and strategic, and it's a war against us,
[56:18] Speaker 2: all right. So the COVID thing, the polytetrafluoro ethylene, it's teflon.
[56:24] Speaker 2: We're breathing through teflon membranes, which is synthetic fluoride, all right.
[56:29] Speaker 2: And this is a one time used medical mask that
[56:31] Speaker 2: it is supposed to be used one time while you're
[56:33] Speaker 2: doing surgery, and so you don't like sneeze inside of
[56:36] Speaker 2: an open body, you know, And that has nothing to
[56:40] Speaker 2: do with viruses. And it's these things off gas chemicals.
[56:43] Speaker 2: They're from freaking China. They're coming they're non regulated they're
[56:46] Speaker 2: handing you a medical mask. As you walk into a
[56:48] Speaker 2: grocery store underneath the sign that says entrance, which I
[56:51] Speaker 2: think is very fascinating, you're like entrance, Yeah, that's me.
[56:54] Speaker 2: You put on a you huffed fluoride as you walk in.
[56:57] Speaker 2: And what's critical to know is the connection between fluoride
[57:01] Speaker 2: and aluminum because all these truths. Aluminum basically crosses all
[57:06] Speaker 2: these different truths and connects all these different truths together,
[57:09] Speaker 2: whether it be vaccines, GMO foods, fluorides, fluoride, chim trails,
[57:16] Speaker 2: there's this connection with it all. And what happens when
[57:19] Speaker 2: you make aluminum, when you smelt aluminum in the production
[57:22] Speaker 2: of aluminum chemical toxic chemical byproduct that comes off of
[57:27] Speaker 2: aluminium is fluoride. It was bonded to aluminum chemically when
[57:31] Speaker 2: it was mined, all right, But to make aluminum cans
[57:34] Speaker 2: and whatnot, you smelt it and these chemicals melt off.
[57:37] Speaker 2: One of them's fluoride. They decided to take toxic element
[57:40] Speaker 2: and put it in toothpaste and drinking water. But you know,
[57:44] Speaker 2: some people have rally together and got it out of
[57:46] Speaker 2: they're drinking water, and that communities know that it's nonsense.
[57:49] Speaker 2: And it doesn't bond to your teeth as it goes
[57:51] Speaker 2: by you any ways, as you drink it is toxic stuff,
[57:53] Speaker 2: you know. But what fluoride does when it gets in
[57:55] Speaker 2: your body through this huffing up your mask or the
[57:59] Speaker 2: drinking water or whatever is, it can bypass your blood
[58:03] Speaker 2: brain barrier and go into your brain. But the thing
[58:06] Speaker 2: is it likes to bond to aluminum that you've gotten
[58:09] Speaker 2: in your system from vaccines, flu vaccine, whatever it may be,
[58:14] Speaker 2: or the toxic deodorant or sunscreen or whatever, or the
[58:19] Speaker 2: freaking Kim trails, which minds you. These are patented fire
[58:23] Speaker 2: accelerants being sprayed on our forests that disrupt the tree's
[58:26] Speaker 2: ability to take water. And then instead of quelling fires,
[58:31] Speaker 2: they're literally making windstorms on these fires after having sprayed
[58:34] Speaker 2: fire accelerants on them, and they're saying, oh, global warming,
[58:36] Speaker 2: we might have to spray the scar with aluminum. So
[58:38] Speaker 2: it's total nonsense, a Galien dialectic backwards thinking, enslavement of humanity. Nonsense.
[58:44] Speaker 1: Well, it seems like the whole COVID thing is kind
[58:46] Speaker 1: of falling apart from him, especially lately, you know, like
[58:49] Speaker 1: you said, we have half the country wearing masks aft
[58:51] Speaker 1: the country not wearing masks. Yeah, it's misinformation. Everybody's confused
[58:55] Speaker 1: about it. But it also kind of seems like a
[58:58] Speaker 1: lot of people are seeing through the bulls and really
[59:00] Speaker 1: not falling forward anymore, and they're going to try and
[59:05] Speaker 1: maybe go with something else. Climate change seems like a
[59:08] Speaker 1: good plan. Maybe you know, let's bring out little Greta
[59:10] Speaker 1: and say that what the world's going to end because
[59:13] Speaker 1: of our emissions?
[59:15] Speaker 2: You know. Well, what's funny is Greta is Swedish and
[59:19] Speaker 2: now they're pushing this experiment and outs in Sweden. So
[59:22] Speaker 2: they're going to do the sky Demi experiment in northern
[59:25] Speaker 2: Sweden with Greta there at the reins being like, yeah,
[59:29] Speaker 2: dim the sun, we gotta block the sky. Whatever. But
[59:32] Speaker 2: just just to finish my thought, the fluori mixes with
[59:35] Speaker 2: the aluminum, It pulls it in your brain and then
[59:37] Speaker 2: you get dimension Alzheimer's and stuff. Is this toxic combination
[59:40] Speaker 2: mixes emf from the five G and from the swamp
[59:44] Speaker 2: of emf rent. It messes with your blood brain barrier,
[59:47] Speaker 2: makes it permeable. And if you've got the toxins like
[59:50] Speaker 2: illuminum fluorid in your body, it goes past your blood
[59:52] Speaker 2: brain barrier that's supposed to protect you from these toxins.
[59:56] Speaker 2: So yeah, how is Denver with the whole mass thing?
[1:00:00] Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not as it's not as bad
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: as I thought.
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: Once the mandate dropped. It took about maybe two or
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: three weeks before people, I guess, felt comfortable enough to
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: go out without masks. Every once in a while, I'll
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: still see a couple of people, you know, looking looking
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: afraid with their mask on. But it's really not that
[1:00:20] Speaker 1: bad right now.
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really fascinating. Where I'm at in Nashalan, Oregon.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: About a week ago they said you can take off
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: your masks anywhere inside and it's over, basically. And it
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: took a few days and now basically everybody inside is
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: not wearing a mask, which is amazing. So now the
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: pressure's off, and what do we have to fight? You know,
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: like we're not like like how could I get traction
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: out there? Being like fuck the delta variant, don't wear
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: a mask when and if it comes, So it's hard.
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: But then come to find out London is locked down,
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: right UK, The whole country, the whole freaking like island
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: is locked down, and they have to wear masks, and
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: there's this delta variant, and they're they're like coming to
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: people's houses and checking to see if they have left
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: to go on vacations. If they're suspected to go on vacations,
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: they're not allowed to leave all these things. So there
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: needs to be a stand for humanity over there. But
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: how if we can't even I can't fly there, I
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: can't go there. I can't go to Sweden to protest
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: that experiment either. I can't, you know, because I'm on
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna get the vaccine. So how
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: to like have a wave of protest for humanity if
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: we're not under the same oppression. It's fascinating and we'll
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: find our way. And I'm really curious to see what's next.
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: But I mean, what do you think's next? What do
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: you think this winter holds and this.
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: I think that they're going to start pushing the whole
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: climate change agenda a lot more. I think that that's
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: the only card they have besides bringing back a new
[1:01:54] Speaker 1: variant of COVID and some more fear monitoring with that.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: But I don't see people, especially in the United States,
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: you know, just falling for that as much as they
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: used to do anymore, and I don't see it gaining
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: much traction, but it will have to see. You know,
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: it could be aliens. It could be a fake alien invasion.
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: With all the talk there heaven about UFOs in the mainstream,
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: you never know.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: I hope they do the fake alien invasion, and I
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: hope they I hope they screwed it up more bad.
[1:02:22] Speaker 2: I hope they screwed up so bad that everyone wakes up.
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: That'd be so cool. What was really fascinating to me
[1:02:28] Speaker 2: is right when COVID happened, and they've said two weeks
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: we're going to do a lockdown, and it was pretty
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: much like it first happened in California, because there's like
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: a cruise ship over there, and I lived in California,
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: so it was like they first started locking down like
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: San Francisco and stuff, and then it the whole country
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: was basically on a two week lockdown come like March
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: or something. And at that time mid March or something
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. And at that time I noticed in
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: my sky. I lived in Santa Rosa at the time, California,
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: in northern California, just north of San Francisco where we
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: get a lot of air traffic to SFO San Francisco
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: Airport and Santa Rosa has an airport. I noticed the
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: air traffic like drops significantly because you know, I guess
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: everyone was on a lockdown. But the Kim trails just stopped.
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: And after a couple of days, we had these deep,
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: dark cobalt blue skies, big white fluffy clouds, and I
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: mean I was literally in awe at the beauty of this,
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: of the clouds that we hadn't seen for I mean years,
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: because they're always manipulating it. You know, maybe we'll see
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: a nice day for a couple of days. But that's
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: another thing for people that are waking up, instead of
[1:03:36] Speaker 2: bringing all the attention to kim trails in the sky,
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: bringing the people's attention to the beautiful days whereas there's
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: where there's nothing going on, no air traffic, beautiful blue skies,
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: maybe just big white fluffy clouds or no clouds, and
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: just be like, hey, friend, family, neighbor, there's no Kim
[1:03:51] Speaker 2: trails today, there's no air traffic, and if there is,
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: there's no line coming out of the back of that
[1:03:55] Speaker 2: jet because they're not up to their agenda and the
[1:03:59] Speaker 2: sky on that day. And if you can start to
[1:04:01] Speaker 2: wake up that they're not doing it on days, then
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: on the days that they are doing it's like, oh man,
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: they're totally doing it today. I can't believe I never noticed.
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: It's you know, as a side note, but really important.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: They stop spraying, they stopped the geoengineering, they stopped the
[1:04:17] Speaker 2: kim trails for like a month when COVID first happened,
[1:04:21] Speaker 2: and everyone was messaging me on Facebook and even texting
[1:04:24] Speaker 2: me and like, oh my god, Matt, I haven't seen
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: such beautiful clouds. And they're all over the world almost
[1:04:28] Speaker 2: I haven't seen such beautiful clouds, Matt. And I was like,
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: oh wow there. And people are asking me, well, are
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: the pilots having to do lockdown? And I was like,
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: I mean, like I doubt it, but I don't know.
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: And I'm under the firm assumption that it's a lot
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: of drones nowadays. I mean some of the planes are
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: even really small and they're just loaded up with the
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: aerosols and it's just drones. They're going to zig zag
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: over you know. There's bases of like forty miles in
[1:04:55] Speaker 2: each direction, not towards the airports where I live on
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: the opposite side of the valley. There's bass these zigzag
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: going into from A to B, which is just like
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: these hidden bases somewhere. But either way, they stopped spraying
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: for all this time, and the weather was normal, all right,
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: and I swear that they were they pushed this like
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: rewilding thing. Then oh there's raccoons and deer in the
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: streets of New York and how beautiful. And the global
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: pollution is stopped, and you can see the lights in
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: India and then fireflames are back out. And they said
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: that global warming and climate change like paused during that
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: that interim time frame where we were locked inside. Dude,
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: if we're locked inside, we're all using electricity, we're greenhouse gas,
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: and the ship out of everywhere. I don't buy that,
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: you know, I don't buy that. Like we just we
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: just like started using a bunch of coal instead of
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: driving around as much. I don't like. I like what
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: what what happened was is they stopped spraying, which the
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: spraying of kim trails is what messes with the global warming.
[1:06:01] Speaker 2: It causes global warming. They're creating heat waves, They're creating
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: this fake greenhouse effect like the Grand Soular minimum think
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: people think they're doing there. It is heating the planet.
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: Even right after nine to eleven when all the planes
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: got frozen, the temperature chilled out. You know, the global
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: warming is real from all the ongoing programs everywhere. That's
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: how they're doing it. So by not doing geoengineering for
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: like a month, they can use that now. And they're
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: gonna use that, and they're gonna say, well, remember when
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: everyone got locked inside, global warming stopped, you know, And
[1:06:35] Speaker 2: so now they're gonna be like, but no, but no,
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: you guys stopped springing, you stopped warming the planet with
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: your geoengineer. They're not gonna tell us that, you know
[1:06:42] Speaker 2: what I mean. They're gonna say, oh, we have this
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: solution for now. It's climate change lockdowns, you guys. And
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: people will be so used to that word lockdown. I
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: think it was like, actually the new the big word
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: of last year, like the Webster's word of the year
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: was lockdowns, which is horrible. But I wouldn't be surprised.
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: It is my retort to what.
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: You said, Right, Yeah, I wouldn't.
[1:07:05] Speaker 1: I wouldn't either, But we got a lot going.
[1:07:07] Speaker 3: On right now.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: We live in very interesting, terrifying, fascinating times, and there's
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: a lot to pay attention to.
[1:07:15] Speaker 3: Matt.
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: We just got a few minutes left. I'd love for
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: you to talk. Maybe give us a little teaser about
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: Franken's guys too, and tell us some about your i
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: MS shielded protection clothing as well.
[1:07:28] Speaker 2: So Franken's guys too. I can't wait for it to
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: come out. I hope that it's sooner rather than later.
[1:07:34] Speaker 2: But also it's I'm documenting what we're going through right now,
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: which is like, if you know about Lytton, BC, this
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: small town of two hundred and fifty people with a
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: whistleblower in it, just burned up overnight a couple of
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: nights ago, which I think is part of this chim
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: trel agenda with the smart meters and the smart tech
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: and all this stuff. The story's unfolding right before our eyes.
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: And possibly we'll have climate change lockdowns coming soon and
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: that'll be in the film. But definitely in the film.
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: Are these fires that just whip through my town? In Ashland, Oregon,
[1:08:12] Speaker 2: twenty three hundred low income homes were turned to dust
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: overnight on September ninth or something. Last year there was
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: arsons that lit all these fires and there's crazy geo
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: engineered wins. But the global media says that it's climate
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: change and that we need to do something about it,
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: which is going to end up being like lockdowns and
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: geo engineering and all that nonsense. So that's why the
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: movies titled for Frankinskuys Too climate chains like shackles, because
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: they're creating this Hegelian dialectic problem reaction scenario, problem reaction
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: solution scenario where they're pushing proposing to us the solution,
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: which is the problem that they've created already and we
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: don't even know it, and it's just blindsiding of humanity.
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: So the movies document this as we go through it,
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: and I hope that we can rally together and in
[1:09:05] Speaker 2: the movie be the change that we need to be
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: to postpone this while the world wakes up because accepting
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: this it's so polarized and it's so much politicized too. Oh,
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: if you're a Trump person, you're x y Z. But
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: if you're a Blue you know, if you're not a
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: Trump person, you believe in this, which is now climate
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: change and global warming and even doing something about global
[1:09:32] Speaker 2: warming which is that scares the crap out of me.
[1:09:36] Speaker 2: But it's coming together. The movie is going to be amazing.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: I hope that it can be better than frankens Guys,
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: which is amazing. If you haven't seen it, frankens guysthemovie
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: dot com or even Frankensky's dot com f r A
[1:09:48] Speaker 2: n k E N s k I E s. Also
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[1:09:57] Speaker 2: This is my baby. It's been growing over years, but
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: now that they're the Daily Blog and the Truth Booth
[1:10:02] Speaker 2: vlogs where I'm putting up my YouTube channel back on
[1:10:05] Speaker 2: there since it got taken down on YouTube. And then
[1:10:09] Speaker 2: it's going to evolve into a micro funding activist site
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: where people can get different activism shwagged flyer up their
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: town with different topics that they want to do, and
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: you can fund a microactivist like twelve bucks or whatever.
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: And then eventually I'm going to turn Actual Activists into
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: a social media platform where we can not be censored
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: and be real in the world and communicate without all
[1:10:32] Speaker 2: this nonsense because our platforms are getting destroyed. Let's be real.
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[1:10:48] Speaker 2: leading the industry globally. But there's other companies emerging and
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: I wish them the best as rising ships. As a
[1:10:56] Speaker 2: rising tide lifts all ships is the phrase. I can't
[1:11:00] Speaker 2: wait for the consciousness to be more aware of EMF
[1:11:03] Speaker 2: protective clothing because we need to protect ourselves and be
[1:11:06] Speaker 2: diligent in this new world of pervasive technology. I've even
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: gone backwards in technology and gotten the slider Verizon LG
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: Cosmos three sliderphone. It doesn't even emit any radiation hardly
[1:11:20] Speaker 2: because I don't have to have it. Man, I've got
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: a laptop and it's wired too. I don't even use
[1:11:25] Speaker 2: Bifi hardly because I understand the culmination of accumulated radiation
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: in my body. I was exposed to with a smart
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: meter while I was making Frank's Guy's wine. It was
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: on the other side of the wall. While I was
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: doing it for like six months, sleepy mix to this
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: thing in it and eventually I had crazy heart palpitations
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: and I started learning. It's just been this whole, you know,
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: life progress story for me. So sparrow gear on Instagram.
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: Please to learn about EMF frequencies and how to mitigate
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: all this. And I make baby blankets and maternity stuff
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: and texting gloves and I'm really pushing the envelope on
[1:11:58] Speaker 2: the innovation of this this industry. So I'm really excited
[1:12:02] Speaker 2: about it. I can't be more excited about this. It's
[1:12:05] Speaker 2: an activism tool to help not just fund my stuff,
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: because I used to just beg for money on gofundmes
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: and crow funds and stuff. But now I'm getting an
[1:12:16] Speaker 2: activism resource tool that people can utilize and then show like, oh,
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: you got a hat this line with sober and they
[1:12:22] Speaker 2: show it to someone that doesn't know anything about EMAF
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: or five G or any of this, and now their
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: world is open to this new rabbit hole that hopefully
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: leads them to kim trails and even other all these
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: other eye opening things. And we can, you know, rise
[1:12:34] Speaker 2: this elevation of truth together because that's why we're here.
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: And then aside from that, please Facebook Matt Landman, I've
[1:12:42] Speaker 2: got almost sixty thousand followers. On there, but I get
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: sensor'ed like crazy. I swear though, if you're meant to
[1:12:48] Speaker 2: see the post, you'll see it. You know. I still
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: put it out there and people do see it, so
[1:12:53] Speaker 2: please don't be a stranger on there. And we can
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: communicate and send me stuff and I get back to
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: everybody that I can. And then also, Frankens Guys at
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: gmail dot com is my email. Frankens guys at gmail
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: dot com. I'm happy to hear from anybody out there,
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: and I really appreciate you have me on again. So
[1:13:09] Speaker 2: much has changed since the movie came out in twenty seventeen,
[1:13:13] Speaker 2: and I remember you having on just shortly after that.
[1:13:15] Speaker 2: And the life of an activist is such a work
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: in progress. We're learning to wear all these other hats,
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we're becoming like, I mean,
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: we're becoming electrical engineers, meteorologists, nutritionalists, astro astro by, I mean,
[1:13:33] Speaker 2: you know, like every single walk of life. We're learning
[1:13:38] Speaker 2: how to own it because the fragmentation and compartmentalization of
[1:13:44] Speaker 2: everything is basically keeping us from learning the truths, you know,
[1:13:48] Speaker 2: so now we get to take it in our own
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: hands and being a truther or activist. It's so cool
[1:13:54] Speaker 2: just having an open mind. So thanks everyone for being
[1:13:57] Speaker 2: on this path with me and you and thanks for
[1:13:59] Speaker 2: having me on and I appreciate it.
[1:14:01] Speaker 1: Awesome Matt, thank you so much and definitely love to
[1:14:04] Speaker 1: have you back on. After Frank scott Is two comes out,
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about that.
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: Cool. That'd be awesome. I would love her.
[1:14:11] Speaker 3: Awesome, we'll have tonight.
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: I don't want to welcome Aaron Montgomery. She works as
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: a marriage counselor and family counselor by day and does healings, readings,
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: and shamanic energy work after hours. Following in the footsteps
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: of Von Smith and others, she is actively working towards
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: being able to help other alien contact these come to
[1:14:32] Speaker 1: terms with and perhaps learn from their unique experiences.
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: Erin welcome. How you doing tonight, Hi, I'm doing good.
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: I'm doing good.
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. I've been looking
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: forward to this. I think some of the most important
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: evidence that we can have in neufology and the paranormal
[1:14:50] Speaker 1: right now is testimony of contact these and experience servers
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: like yourself and you know, kind of bringing this together
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: with the notes nuts and bolts researchers in the consciousness community,
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: and I think we could probably learn a whole lot
[1:15:06] Speaker 1: more about this phenomenon if we could bring those fields
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: together along with you know, the evidence and testimony of
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: people like yourself. And You've been a very long time
[1:15:17] Speaker 1: experience er, right since childhood.
[1:15:20] Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. My earliest memory is from about
[1:15:23] Speaker 4: four years old.
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: Wow.
[1:15:24] Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been an experience for a long time,
[1:15:27] Speaker 4: and I agree with you. I think that we're at
[1:15:30] Speaker 4: a point in time where, you know, we've got people
[1:15:35] Speaker 4: seeing things, experiencing things, then we've got the research going
[1:15:39] Speaker 4: on with the consciousness level, and then you've got these
[1:15:41] Speaker 4: people that have direct, direct experiences that speak to these
[1:15:47] Speaker 4: things that are being found out in the scientific research.
[1:15:51] Speaker 4: And putting it all together into one place and one
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: bigger level of understanding is really going to push this
[1:16:00] Speaker 4: all forward and help people understand exactly what's going on.
[1:16:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: I think the helping people understand part is one of
[1:16:09] Speaker 1: the biggest things for me, because I've been looking in
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: this for years. I've had a couple of experiences myself,
[1:16:15] Speaker 1: and I'm nowhere near understanding any of it. I know,
[1:16:20] Speaker 1: I feel like I understand a little bit more with
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: them when I first got into it.
[1:16:23] Speaker 3: But as far as the bigger picture, I have no
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: idea what's going on.
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: But I'd love to hear about some of your earliest experiences.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: Maybe we could start with your some of your first
[1:16:32] Speaker 1: experiences and tell us about what they were like.
[1:16:34] Speaker 4: Maybe sure, and going along with the idea of expanded
[1:16:40] Speaker 4: consciousness and things like this, where you are outside of time.
[1:16:45] Speaker 4: The experiencer, well, let's say the contact these experiences instead
[1:16:51] Speaker 4: of saying experiencers experiences. I mean, it just gets the
[1:16:54] Speaker 4: word gets redneant. But it is outside of time. I
[1:16:59] Speaker 4: do not experience these things in a linear fashion. Yes,
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: my first memory is from four years old, but I
[1:17:04] Speaker 4: didn't remember that until recently, and so flashes and understandings
[1:17:10] Speaker 4: and things happen now, but it was in the past.
[1:17:14] Speaker 4: It gets it gets really complex and difficult to explain
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: on a linear you know, and on a linear timeline. However, Yes,
[1:17:22] Speaker 4: my first memory is from about four years old. I
[1:17:26] Speaker 4: was in a room that was very very white, very sterile.
[1:17:32] Speaker 4: There was a round doorway to my right. I was
[1:17:35] Speaker 4: seated on the floor with several other children, and we
[1:17:39] Speaker 4: were manipulating blocks almost like playing catch, but very slowly
[1:17:45] Speaker 4: and using our mind. And the next thing I recall
[1:17:52] Speaker 4: is a small gray type being passing by the doorway
[1:17:56] Speaker 4: with another little boy who like indicated, hey, I know you,
[1:18:01] Speaker 4: and then he kept on kept on walking with the
[1:18:04] Speaker 4: gray and that is like a thirty second little burst
[1:18:07] Speaker 4: of memory. Yeah, that's that's the earliest experience.
[1:18:11] Speaker 3: That I hat. That's really interesting.
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: I've had a few contact thesent experiencers that have had
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: similar experiences in childhood to where they're in like this
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: classroom or learning type environment where they're being shown blocks
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: or images or certain screens of you know, films, even
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: just kind of like a classroom type environment, which I
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: find very interesting. Do you have any other memories going
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: back that you know where you were brought to the
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: same environment.
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: I do have memories of being in these learning environments,
[1:18:47] Speaker 4: not necessarily in that white room, but in more of
[1:18:50] Speaker 4: a gymnasium type of room, and the details are like
[1:18:54] Speaker 4: really specific as I recall them in a regression and
[1:18:58] Speaker 4: so it's pretty fresh in my mind. But it was
[1:19:00] Speaker 4: a very large room. The floors were dark, like almost
[1:19:05] Speaker 4: like a black color. The room itself was like a
[1:19:09] Speaker 4: geodesic dome, you know, very high ceiling, very rounded, and
[1:19:16] Speaker 4: the there were like support like a support system around
[1:19:21] Speaker 4: this this dome that was hexagonal in shape, so it
[1:19:26] Speaker 4: looked almost like a like a honeycomb pattern across the ceiling.
[1:19:30] Speaker 4: The pipes that were securing this were red and blue,
[1:19:35] Speaker 4: and I could see the stars on the other side.
[1:19:37] Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a real vivid memory of what
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: this room looks like. And there were several podiums around
[1:19:44] Speaker 4: the room, and behind the podium was a being, and
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: in front of the podium was a child. And I
[1:19:49] Speaker 4: was taken up to one of these podiums, and this
[1:19:52] Speaker 4: is where I was taught how to manipulate gravity and
[1:19:55] Speaker 4: was able to, you know, rise up and kind of
[1:19:58] Speaker 4: fly around the room. I remember the I was working with,
[1:20:00] Speaker 4: who was a very tall being. He like maybe like
[1:20:06] Speaker 4: seven feet tall something like that, very tall. His skin
[1:20:10] Speaker 4: if you've seen Et at the point where he gets sick,
[1:20:14] Speaker 4: and his skin is that modeled white, pinkish color, That's
[1:20:17] Speaker 4: what this guy looked like. His face was not like
[1:20:21] Speaker 4: a typical gray shaped face. It was more flat and
[1:20:24] Speaker 4: elongated and had very round eyes, kind of high up.
[1:20:28] Speaker 4: I call him a tall white being. I don't know
[1:20:31] Speaker 4: what anybody else would call this being, but in my head,
[1:20:33] Speaker 4: I'm like, well, maybe this is a tall white and
[1:20:37] Speaker 4: he had on a jumpsuit, but he's the one that
[1:20:39] Speaker 4: was teaching me. And I remember him getting irritated with
[1:20:43] Speaker 4: me because I was having too much fun and I
[1:20:44] Speaker 4: didn't want to settle back down. He's like, come on,
[1:20:47] Speaker 4: you got you gotta land and we've got other things
[1:20:50] Speaker 4: to do. And it was at that point in time
[1:20:52] Speaker 4: that he taught me about the energy centers in the body,
[1:20:55] Speaker 4: like what we would call chakras. One of the fascinating
[1:20:59] Speaker 4: things is I think I was about ten years old,
[1:21:02] Speaker 4: ten to eleven at the point that this happened. And
[1:21:06] Speaker 4: I remember consciously at that age, because I did recall
[1:21:11] Speaker 4: this in a regression, but consciously at the age around
[1:21:15] Speaker 4: ten or eleven, being in elementary school with my friends
[1:21:20] Speaker 4: outside saying hey, pick me up, you know, and one
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: of my friends would pick me up and put me
[1:21:25] Speaker 4: back down, and then I would shift my weight a
[1:21:27] Speaker 4: little bit and say, okay, pick me up again, and
[1:21:30] Speaker 4: they couldn't do it, and I would let it go
[1:21:34] Speaker 4: and say all right, pick me up again, and they
[1:21:35] Speaker 4: could pick me up, put me down and I'd shift
[1:21:37] Speaker 4: just a little bit, just like a little subtle movement
[1:21:41] Speaker 4: in my mind and with my body, and then they
[1:21:43] Speaker 4: couldn't do it. So it makes me wonder was I
[1:21:46] Speaker 4: retaining that lesson of manipulating gravity.
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you if you know
[1:21:53] Speaker 1: what type of abilities did you have while you were
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: having these experiences, and did you take these with you
[1:21:59] Speaker 1: and have any extra experiences with these abilities in your
[1:22:02] Speaker 1: normal living life.
[1:22:05] Speaker 4: That's the only one that I am aware that I
[1:22:08] Speaker 4: was able to bring back into this reality. There's times
[1:22:12] Speaker 4: where I've thought I should be able to move objects,
[1:22:14] Speaker 4: and I've tried, you know, sitting there staring at things
[1:22:17] Speaker 4: and things moving, and I'm like, this is really frustrating.
[1:22:21] Speaker 4: I feel like I should be able to do this,
[1:22:24] Speaker 4: and the end time and time again, I've tried, and
[1:22:26] Speaker 4: I never can. The things that I have been able
[1:22:30] Speaker 4: to retain is communications, the telepathy, especially with other experiencers.
[1:22:38] Speaker 4: Just empathy. I don't know if that is because of
[1:22:42] Speaker 4: contact or if it's just part and parcel to who
[1:22:45] Speaker 4: I am. Just being able to feel people's emotions, physical
[1:22:48] Speaker 4: pains and all of this, all of these things, but
[1:22:53] Speaker 4: that in particular, you know, just makes me think. Okay,
[1:22:57] Speaker 4: so I was taught something on ship and then recalled
[1:23:00] Speaker 4: it later and was able to use it, and so yeah,
[1:23:05] Speaker 4: I find it fascinating that I was able to do that.
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: That is, and you described one of the types of
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: beings that you had experiences with. What other types of
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: beings you remember during you know, that time period in
[1:23:18] Speaker 1: this learning environment.
[1:23:21] Speaker 4: Honestly, he's the only one that I recall. And then
[1:23:27] Speaker 4: when I was four and on the floor playing with
[1:23:29] Speaker 4: the blocks, I don't remember any beings except for the
[1:23:31] Speaker 4: one that walked by, who was more of the you know,
[1:23:34] Speaker 4: three and a half foot gray type being with the
[1:23:37] Speaker 4: big eyes and the elongated head. In the learning environment.
[1:23:41] Speaker 4: That's it. That's all I got now.
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: Growing up, you also had a mix of paranormal experiences
[1:23:49] Speaker 1: as well, right, I have.
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: I've had very strange paranormal experiences my whole life. Hearing
[1:23:58] Speaker 4: my name being called, having a very odd moment of
[1:24:04] Speaker 4: added time, learning how to astral travel, you know, ghostly experiences, hauntings,
[1:24:14] Speaker 4: all sorts of things have happened around me. And it
[1:24:18] Speaker 4: doesn't matter where I'm at, you know, it just seems
[1:24:20] Speaker 4: to be. You know, people say, are you going to
[1:24:22] Speaker 4: a haunted home. No, I think that I'm the one
[1:24:24] Speaker 4: that's haunted or something. You know, It's just that it
[1:24:27] Speaker 4: always happens around me. And I know that it is
[1:24:29] Speaker 4: very common for experiencers to have these these things happen
[1:24:32] Speaker 4: around them.
[1:24:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I think it's very interesting that
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: there's this connection between the paranormal and these UFO experiences
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: and contact experiences and people that experienced them. I was
[1:24:48] Speaker 1: talking with somebody the other day that you could have
[1:24:51] Speaker 1: someone that's seeing us an apparition right in front of
[1:24:55] Speaker 1: them or a UFO and a person that never has
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: any of these types of experience is standing right next
[1:25:01] Speaker 1: to them and they don't see anything, they don't know
[1:25:03] Speaker 1: what they're talking about. I've heard of things like this
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: all the time, and I've even experienced things like this.
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: Uh so, what do you think is happening there? Why
[1:25:12] Speaker 1: do you think some people are just maybe in tuned
[1:25:14] Speaker 1: to different frequencies? What do you think I think that
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it.
[1:25:19] Speaker 4: I think that when we are exposed to these experiences
[1:25:24] Speaker 4: that are going to expand the consciousness, whether it's like
[1:25:27] Speaker 4: a near death experience, whether it is like even a
[1:25:32] Speaker 4: traumatic event, that will shift how we perceive the world
[1:25:37] Speaker 4: around us or each contact. Any of these things kind
[1:25:40] Speaker 4: of expand our senses in a way. We're no longer
[1:25:45] Speaker 4: just using the natural five senses because you know, and
[1:25:48] Speaker 4: I added trauma in there, because there are many many
[1:25:51] Speaker 4: people that I have met who have had traumatic experience
[1:25:55] Speaker 4: and not necessarily you know, each contact, but they have
[1:26:01] Speaker 4: developed like recognition or empathy, and they are very easy
[1:26:07] Speaker 4: to judge a room like, Okay, somebody in here is angry,
[1:26:10] Speaker 4: and that's they have to if they have trauma, like
[1:26:14] Speaker 4: say from like a domestic violence experience or something like that,
[1:26:17] Speaker 4: or if they were abused as children, Being able to
[1:26:20] Speaker 4: judge the emotions in a room just upon entering is
[1:26:23] Speaker 4: going to be a safety mechanism. I just I find
[1:26:27] Speaker 4: it fascinating that these things develop through these modes of
[1:26:32] Speaker 4: contact or you know, whatever it is, with these expanded
[1:26:37] Speaker 4: moments of experience. I guess you know, there's things outside
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: the norm and all, and we've all of a sudden
[1:26:44] Speaker 4: adapted to be able to perceive these things. And I
[1:26:49] Speaker 4: think that is why we can perceive them. And somebody
[1:26:52] Speaker 4: who has not had anything like this happened, cannot I
[1:26:56] Speaker 4: have been in a room with people that have some
[1:26:59] Speaker 4: abilities but haven't developed them enough. They have some perception
[1:27:03] Speaker 4: and be able to describe what I'm experiencing and have
[1:27:07] Speaker 4: them describe what they are feeling in the moment and
[1:27:10] Speaker 4: be able to add it to Like I remember, I
[1:27:13] Speaker 4: was with a friend who had lost somebody recently and
[1:27:17] Speaker 4: I said, Okay, I just felt somebody enter the room.
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: I can I can feel their presence. And my friend said, oh, okay,
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: my ears just kind of popped, like the pressure changed
[1:27:28] Speaker 4: in the room. I said, there you go. That you
[1:27:31] Speaker 4: that was your indication, Yes, that that happened, there was
[1:27:34] Speaker 4: a shift in here and you perceived it. And being
[1:27:37] Speaker 4: able to say okay, I feel that too, and then
[1:27:41] Speaker 4: being able to they can hone in on that, and
[1:27:44] Speaker 4: that starts that expansion understanding okay, there's something else here,
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: what else do I feel? And just taking that moment
[1:27:52] Speaker 4: and diving into it. It's it's pretty special, you know,
[1:27:56] Speaker 4: in that in that moment for those who are not
[1:27:58] Speaker 4: used to being able to perceive these things.
[1:28:00] Speaker 1: Right, and I'm sure like even for you that in
[1:28:04] Speaker 1: the beginning, these experiences can be traumatic for people if
[1:28:07] Speaker 1: they don't understand them, if they don't really know what's
[1:28:10] Speaker 1: going on. I know that you have had actually quite
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: a few experiences that probably were traumatic for you and
[1:28:18] Speaker 1: you look back and they may not be as as bad,
[1:28:22] Speaker 1: or maybe.
[1:28:22] Speaker 3: They were even positive experience. Isn't that right?
[1:28:25] Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know I have explained this to you before, Like,
[1:28:28] Speaker 4: there's several different categories of experiences I've had. They're the loving, educational,
[1:28:34] Speaker 4: gentle things that I've experienced. There have been things that
[1:28:37] Speaker 4: have been scary for me just because I either I
[1:28:41] Speaker 4: was a child or just it was completely unfamiliar and
[1:28:44] Speaker 4: I was in a you know, went into a fair state,
[1:28:46] Speaker 4: but they weren't necessarily bad. And then I've had horrible,
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: awful experiences that you know that that are just pure
[1:28:53] Speaker 4: trauma on that side. But you know, there's those things
[1:28:56] Speaker 4: that have happened to me, like around the age of seven,
[1:28:59] Speaker 4: when I had an implant put in. They were not
[1:29:03] Speaker 4: trying to harm me, They did not want me afraid,
[1:29:06] Speaker 4: but I was afraid, and and that moment did cause trauma.
[1:29:10] Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that experience?
[1:29:12] Speaker 4: Sure, this was something that was recalled during a regression
[1:29:18] Speaker 4: hypnotic regression with Evon Smith, and I purposely went to
[1:29:22] Speaker 4: her as I was experiencing traumatic symptoms. I was not sleeping,
[1:29:27] Speaker 4: I was starting to not be able to function. I
[1:29:30] Speaker 4: was very paranoid, could not turn off the lights, you know,
[1:29:35] Speaker 4: at night. I was afraid something was going to come
[1:29:37] Speaker 4: and get me that, you know that paranoid failing. Okay,
[1:29:39] Speaker 4: just leave me alone, don't don't come tonight, just let me,
[1:29:42] Speaker 4: let me sleep. And I understood. I was a contact
[1:29:45] Speaker 4: at that point, and I told her I need to
[1:29:47] Speaker 4: go back to this moment where the trauma happened. I
[1:29:49] Speaker 4: have got to put it to bed because I need
[1:29:51] Speaker 4: to sleep and I need to start functioning. And and
[1:29:55] Speaker 4: that's that's where I went. Was to the age of
[1:29:58] Speaker 4: seven and and this was in my hometown of Mantos, Colorado.
[1:30:04] Speaker 4: I was seven years old, and I remembered a light
[1:30:08] Speaker 4: coming through the window that was really really bright, and
[1:30:10] Speaker 4: I thought it was the moon, and like, why is
[1:30:12] Speaker 4: the moon so bright? And it was at that point
[1:30:15] Speaker 4: that I realized that there was a being standing right
[1:30:19] Speaker 4: by my bed, right at my head, and had a
[1:30:23] Speaker 4: very feminine feel. I don't know if these beings have gender,
[1:30:26] Speaker 4: but it was a very nurturing and kind feeling. And
[1:30:29] Speaker 4: she felt familiar to me, and she said, you know,
[1:30:32] Speaker 4: don't need you don't need to worry. We're just going
[1:30:33] Speaker 4: to go have some fun. And I'm like, okay. And
[1:30:36] Speaker 4: there was a being at my feet, and then there
[1:30:40] Speaker 4: was a being at my door, and the one at
[1:30:43] Speaker 4: my feet kind of put his hands underneath my feet,
[1:30:46] Speaker 4: and I was able to levitate me just just by
[1:30:49] Speaker 4: touching my foot, and I levitated on my back feet
[1:30:53] Speaker 4: first and floated. They floated me into the hallway and
[1:30:58] Speaker 4: the three beings and I ascended up towards the ceiling
[1:31:03] Speaker 4: and then through the ceiling, through the roof and out
[1:31:07] Speaker 4: of the out out of the house, and I was
[1:31:09] Speaker 4: able to see there was like this beam of light,
[1:31:11] Speaker 4: which was what was bugging me, keeping keeping me up.
[1:31:14] Speaker 4: That was what was so bright, was coming out of
[1:31:18] Speaker 4: like an aperture in the bottom of this disc shaped craft.
[1:31:23] Speaker 4: And we ascended through, you know, up the light and
[1:31:27] Speaker 4: into the into the ship. I remember them kind of
[1:31:30] Speaker 4: like floating me over, felt like a conveyor belt, almost
[1:31:33] Speaker 4: just kind of moving me over till I got to
[1:31:36] Speaker 4: like a hallway. The hallways were all very round, and
[1:31:40] Speaker 4: everything was very round and metallic and very sterile, very
[1:31:43] Speaker 4: similar to when I was little in the rooms were
[1:31:45] Speaker 4: but it was white. I remember white when I was little.
[1:31:48] Speaker 4: This one was more metallic, like what it would be
[1:31:51] Speaker 4: like on the inside of a milk truck if you
[1:31:53] Speaker 4: think about that. Just very smooth, sterile, metallic. And I
[1:31:58] Speaker 4: was maneuvered down a hallway and into a room on
[1:32:03] Speaker 4: the left hand side. Why I remember that, I don't know,
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: but it was very much like a dentist or a
[1:32:08] Speaker 4: dental theater. There was a chair that looked like a
[1:32:13] Speaker 4: dentist's chair. There were like almost like a cabinets and
[1:32:19] Speaker 4: things along the wall and countertops what I perceived instruments
[1:32:25] Speaker 4: on them and things like that. I was put into
[1:32:27] Speaker 4: the chair and didn't have any thoughts or feelings until
[1:32:32] Speaker 4: they started to secure me into the chair, and I
[1:32:35] Speaker 4: started to become a little bit nervous. And it was
[1:32:39] Speaker 4: at that point in time that another being walked into
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: the room who did not look like these three beings,
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: did not feel like these three beings. It was very tall,
[1:32:47] Speaker 4: and I went into like an immediate panic. I think
[1:32:52] Speaker 4: because of my fear state, I cannot quite recall exactly
[1:32:56] Speaker 4: what his face looked like, but I know that he
[1:32:58] Speaker 4: was very, very tall, and thin. He had on a
[1:33:01] Speaker 4: jumpsuit similar to the tall white that I saw when
[1:33:04] Speaker 4: I was a little older, but he was much thinner,
[1:33:10] Speaker 4: and I want to say his head was triangular and
[1:33:12] Speaker 4: there were moving mouth parts on the bottom, which makes
[1:33:15] Speaker 4: me wonder was this imnted type But it was very
[1:33:18] Speaker 4: insect like and and yeah, I freaked out. And I
[1:33:22] Speaker 4: just remember that being like telepathically telling the other ones
[1:33:26] Speaker 4: if you don't calm her down, and you're going to
[1:33:28] Speaker 4: have to take her back. And yeah, and that's when
[1:33:32] Speaker 4: the female being kind of you know, leaned across me,
[1:33:35] Speaker 4: and I don't really remember what happened, but she was
[1:33:38] Speaker 4: able to calm me down. And that is when the
[1:33:42] Speaker 4: tall skinny being approached me and inserted this It was
[1:33:50] Speaker 4: like a pink to latinous blob looking thing to me.
[1:33:53] Speaker 4: You know, I didn't see like anything metallic or anything.
[1:33:56] Speaker 4: I just saw this weird biological mass coming towards me.
[1:34:02] Speaker 4: Maybe the size of a dime is what my mind
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: calls up. And it was in this like silver fork
[1:34:08] Speaker 4: like thing about maybe a foot long, and that's what
[1:34:13] Speaker 4: they inserted into the roof of my mouth. After the
[1:34:17] Speaker 4: procedure he left the room, I was unstrapped, and the
[1:34:21] Speaker 4: female being took me by the hand. We looked out
[1:34:23] Speaker 4: the window and it was very peaceful and sweet and
[1:34:26] Speaker 4: got to see how beautiful the earth looked from above,
[1:34:29] Speaker 4: and then I was returned to my bed. From what
[1:34:34] Speaker 4: I have been able to tell, the implant is for communications,
[1:34:37] Speaker 4: just so I can communicate with these beings, and so
[1:34:42] Speaker 4: therefore not necessarily a negative thing, and I really was
[1:34:46] Speaker 4: not hurt in the process. I do not remember anything
[1:34:50] Speaker 4: besides being afraid of this being, and that really is
[1:34:53] Speaker 4: what set off the trauma in me. And after the
[1:34:58] Speaker 4: regression and coming back too, Yvonne said, I've heard the
[1:35:03] Speaker 4: story two other times before, same things with the dentist
[1:35:08] Speaker 4: chair the implant in that same spot, and so you know,
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: I came out of that saying, okay, I'm not crazy.
[1:35:16] Speaker 4: You know, I knew I was an experiencer, but I
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: didn't know I wasn't experiencing, you know, until that moment.
[1:35:22] Speaker 4: And it really put a lot of things to rest,
[1:35:25] Speaker 4: and honestly, I was able to sleep after that and
[1:35:27] Speaker 4: haven't had any problems.
[1:35:30] Speaker 1: That's really fascinating. I've heard such similar accounts, especially with
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: the mantis or insect like beings, the taller beings being
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: in either some type of position of power or like
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: scientist or doctor or something like that along those lines.
[1:35:47] Speaker 3: In so many.
[1:35:48] Speaker 1: Encounters which I find really really interesting. Have you had
[1:35:52] Speaker 1: any other encounters with these like insect aid type beings.
[1:35:57] Speaker 4: There's only one other thing that I read call And honestly,
[1:36:03] Speaker 4: the recall happened about the same time as the recall
[1:36:06] Speaker 4: of when I was about four years old, so you know,
[1:36:08] Speaker 4: given the last year, I remember being about six years
[1:36:13] Speaker 4: old in a room again very round, very round room
[1:36:18] Speaker 4: with round door. There was two round doorways across from me.
[1:36:21] Speaker 4: I was seated on a bench and I was about six,
[1:36:24] Speaker 4: about six years old, and for whatever reason that I
[1:36:26] Speaker 4: remember being in my underwear and there was a little
[1:36:30] Speaker 4: boy sitting next to me, also in underwear, and I
[1:36:33] Speaker 4: remember as being so terrified. We were kind of clinging
[1:36:36] Speaker 4: to each other. And the only other thing I remember
[1:36:41] Speaker 4: about the room itself was that the floor was like
[1:36:44] Speaker 4: emanating black. It was like absence of light, and it
[1:36:50] Speaker 4: made it look kind of foggy coming up from the floor,
[1:36:53] Speaker 4: and then the rest of the room was like a
[1:36:55] Speaker 4: red color. I don't know, it's very strange way to
[1:37:02] Speaker 4: describe a room, but it was like anti light, and
[1:37:05] Speaker 4: then like just a glow of red above us, and
[1:37:10] Speaker 4: and then two of these very tall beings that looked
[1:37:13] Speaker 4: very similar mounted types came one through each doorway and
[1:37:17] Speaker 4: they picked us up and separated us. And I just
[1:37:20] Speaker 4: remember being terrified of that as well. So that's it,
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: that's that's and that's all I've got.
[1:37:26] Speaker 3: That's super fascinating.
[1:37:29] Speaker 1: What age did you really start to kind of maybe
[1:37:32] Speaker 1: have a little understanding that you're dealing with extraterrestrials, And
[1:37:36] Speaker 1: you know, when did you decide to get regressions done.
[1:37:41] Speaker 4: I was nineteen at the point that I started to say, okay,
[1:37:44] Speaker 4: there's something to this. You know, I had had those
[1:37:48] Speaker 4: weird paranormal experiences my entire life, ramping up as a teenager.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: I had a moment where I was late coming home
[1:37:57] Speaker 4: one day. I was you know, I was a teenager.
[1:38:00] Speaker 4: I was out at my boyfriend's house, like, oh crap,
[1:38:02] Speaker 4: I'm late. I have to get home. And I drove
[1:38:04] Speaker 4: home and got home like fifteen minutes before I left. Somehow,
[1:38:10] Speaker 4: I don't know, it's always stuck in my head, like, Okay,
[1:38:13] Speaker 4: something weird happened there. And then I would have sensations
[1:38:17] Speaker 4: of slamming back down into my bed. So I was
[1:38:20] Speaker 4: convinced at the age of seventeen that I was levitating,
[1:38:23] Speaker 4: and like, I'm levitating or something. And now I understand
[1:38:26] Speaker 4: that's not what was going on. But at nineteen years old,
[1:38:30] Speaker 4: I was attending New Mexico State University in Las Crusas,
[1:38:34] Speaker 4: New Mexico, and there was a lecture being given by
[1:38:37] Speaker 4: a man about UFOs and state documents and things like that,
[1:38:42] Speaker 4: and I thought, I really want to go see this.
[1:38:44] Speaker 4: I'd always been fascinated by UFOs at this point, and
[1:38:49] Speaker 4: I get in there, sat down, listen to the lecture.
[1:38:51] Speaker 4: I know who it is now that I was speaking.
[1:38:54] Speaker 4: It was Stanton Friedman. Of course, at when I was nineteen,
[1:38:57] Speaker 4: I had no idea who he was. But something shifted
[1:39:02] Speaker 4: in me that night from fascination with the topic to terror.
[1:39:06] Speaker 4: And by the time I left, I was afraid to
[1:39:11] Speaker 4: look at the sky. And I had walked to this
[1:39:15] Speaker 4: lecture at that point and it was dark out and
[1:39:17] Speaker 4: I had a hard time, and so whatever it was
[1:39:21] Speaker 4: just shifted anight knew and I actually did have an
[1:39:24] Speaker 4: experience that night, and it developed through my twenties, like
[1:39:30] Speaker 4: little bits and pieces of memories coming back, encounters that
[1:39:34] Speaker 4: were happening that I was consciously aware of or dream
[1:39:38] Speaker 4: like experiences with these beings. But it wasn't until my
[1:39:42] Speaker 4: early forties that I went in for a regression. So
[1:39:47] Speaker 4: there were many, many years of experiencing things, remembering things,
[1:39:53] Speaker 4: and living in this kind of a terror around it.
[1:39:58] Speaker 1: Have you ever had any experience is where you actually
[1:40:01] Speaker 1: saw any unidentified flying objects before or around the same time.
[1:40:08] Speaker 4: No, I you know, I've seen I've seen ships, and
[1:40:14] Speaker 4: I've had experiences, but it's never I've never been outside,
[1:40:18] Speaker 4: seen a ship and had an experience at that moment.
[1:40:22] Speaker 4: Most of my experiences happen while I'm in bed, like
[1:40:27] Speaker 4: I'm in bed asleep. That's and that's when my encounters happened.
[1:40:32] Speaker 1: Now, do you think these are more physical? Are more
[1:40:35] Speaker 1: of just kind of your your consciousness being taken in
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: a way?
[1:40:41] Speaker 4: I think there's a good argument for a combination of both.
[1:40:46] Speaker 4: I will have experiences where I have bruises and marks
[1:40:51] Speaker 4: and you know, punctures like needle puncture wounds, and I mean,
[1:40:58] Speaker 4: how can those things happen if it's not physical. At
[1:41:01] Speaker 4: the same time, I've got a camera in my room
[1:41:04] Speaker 4: just because now now that I'm okay with things going on,
[1:41:08] Speaker 4: I'm curious, like I want to see I want to
[1:41:10] Speaker 4: see what happens. And so I have a camera in
[1:41:12] Speaker 4: my room, and there are times when I'll have contact
[1:41:16] Speaker 4: with beings and remember it and recall it, but there's
[1:41:21] Speaker 4: there's nothing on film. Either. The camera has malfunctioned. One
[1:41:25] Speaker 4: time the camera was turned on its head, so the
[1:41:28] Speaker 4: lens was down, you know, on the desk that I
[1:41:31] Speaker 4: was sitting on, and and then other times there's you know,
[1:41:35] Speaker 4: there's things that will fly through the room orbs, these
[1:41:38] Speaker 4: weird squares, but no, you know, I am not taken
[1:41:42] Speaker 4: out of the bed and returned there that so it
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: I don't know is the answer to that.
[1:41:48] Speaker 3: Really, That's that's interesting.
[1:41:51] Speaker 1: Now You've also had encounters that weren't too pleasant that
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: may have involved possibly the military.
[1:41:59] Speaker 4: Correct correct, And that's you know, one of those moments
[1:42:02] Speaker 4: where it feels like a dream. This would have been
[1:42:06] Speaker 4: in about twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. I had already met
[1:42:10] Speaker 4: Yvonne Smith at this time because I lived for a
[1:42:13] Speaker 4: long time in Roswell, New Mexico. Of all places for
[1:42:17] Speaker 4: an experiencer to end up. I lived there for twenty
[1:42:21] Speaker 4: years and I had It took me a long time,
[1:42:25] Speaker 4: but I started to go to the festivals. I had
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: met Yvonne and knew what she did. And at the
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: time of the festival in about twenty thirteen, I a
[1:42:36] Speaker 4: friend of mine had gone and we were going to
[1:42:37] Speaker 4: just get up and go the next day. So he
[1:42:39] Speaker 4: slept on the couch and I went into my room
[1:42:41] Speaker 4: and you know, propably went to sleep, and that night
[1:42:45] Speaker 4: I had a dream. It felt like I woke up
[1:42:49] Speaker 4: ish and I like I was like leaving the bedroom
[1:42:54] Speaker 4: through the window and I was wrapped in this weirdjourney.
[1:43:00] Speaker 4: You know, I've never experienced this before, but I was
[1:43:02] Speaker 4: in a gurney and I felt the beings around me,
[1:43:04] Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, Okay, this is weird. Huh. You know,
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: as I'm watching material pass over me as I'm going
[1:43:13] Speaker 4: outside kind of black out, I came to with excruciating
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: pain across my abdomen. It just kind of shot me awake,
[1:43:22] Speaker 4: but I couldn't move because you know, when you're hurting
[1:43:24] Speaker 4: in your stomach, you want to cover it up and
[1:43:27] Speaker 4: cradle it. But I couldn't because I was strapped onto
[1:43:31] Speaker 4: a table. Of some sort. And you know, it was
[1:43:35] Speaker 4: more like a cot, not one like a metallic table
[1:43:38] Speaker 4: you would find on ship that people, you know, it's
[1:43:40] Speaker 4: not this sterile environment. I'm in a cot and across
[1:43:47] Speaker 4: my abdomen is a like a surgical tint in a way.
[1:43:50] Speaker 4: I could not see below it. I could see my feet,
[1:43:54] Speaker 4: you know, and I could see the being. There were
[1:43:56] Speaker 4: two very like tall gray beings at my feet, kind
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: of like in between my legs, you know, like I was,
[1:44:05] Speaker 4: you know, spread eagled in a way like like you
[1:44:08] Speaker 4: would see a woman in stirrups type of thing. And
[1:44:12] Speaker 4: and I was in a lot of pain, but I
[1:44:14] Speaker 4: knew I was not alone in the room, because I
[1:44:16] Speaker 4: could hear other women that were also in pain. And
[1:44:19] Speaker 4: I was able to manipulate my head enough to see
[1:44:21] Speaker 4: that there were, yes, multiple multiples of these cots in
[1:44:24] Speaker 4: this room, but the same thing happening to each one
[1:44:27] Speaker 4: of each one of us. And I saw a being
[1:44:32] Speaker 4: approaching me, you know, from a distance, coming towards me,
[1:44:36] Speaker 4: and he was he appeared human. He was in fatigues,
[1:44:40] Speaker 4: and he had a white lab coat on and he
[1:44:43] Speaker 4: was carrying a clipboard. He had a gray buzz cut hair.
[1:44:47] Speaker 4: He really looked military. To me, he looked human. Whether
[1:44:50] Speaker 4: he was or not, I don't know, but this is
[1:44:52] Speaker 4: what I perceived. And I started yelling out, hey, you know,
[1:44:55] Speaker 4: get me out of here, what's going on? And he
[1:44:57] Speaker 4: looked at me and then he looked away and went
[1:44:59] Speaker 4: on about it business as if I didn't even exist.
[1:45:03] Speaker 4: And in a way, that was worse than you know,
[1:45:06] Speaker 4: the pain that I was feeling, and it was it
[1:45:12] Speaker 4: was it was horrible, absolutely horrible. And you know, another
[1:45:16] Speaker 4: thing that was striking at the time was I was
[1:45:18] Speaker 4: not in that sterile environment like I said. I could
[1:45:21] Speaker 4: actually saw rock walls like I was underground. And when
[1:45:29] Speaker 4: I woke up in the morning, I thought, oh, that
[1:45:31] Speaker 4: was awful. That was a terrible, horrible nightmare, you know.
[1:45:35] Speaker 4: But I had cramps along my stomach, and I looked
[1:45:41] Speaker 4: in the mirror and my eyes were swollen, you know,
[1:45:44] Speaker 4: the eyelids were super puffy. I had broken blood vessels
[1:45:47] Speaker 4: all around that, you know, under my eyes and across
[1:45:50] Speaker 4: my eyelids and the bridge of my nose like I
[1:45:52] Speaker 4: had been crying really really hard and straining myself, and
[1:45:59] Speaker 4: and I had bruises on the inside of my thighs
[1:46:01] Speaker 4: so I was like, okay, okay, that was not a dream.
[1:46:05] Speaker 4: And it was at that point in time that I
[1:46:07] Speaker 4: was no longer sleeping and I could, you know, and
[1:46:10] Speaker 4: I couldn't couldn't sleep with the light off I had,
[1:46:13] Speaker 4: you know, I was up all night and I was
[1:46:15] Speaker 4: starting to not function at work miswork, and it was
[1:46:19] Speaker 4: you know, that's when I said, Okay, Yvon, we've got
[1:46:21] Speaker 4: to do a regression. And I expected to go back
[1:46:24] Speaker 4: to that moment that I actually had pretty good recall of,
[1:46:26] Speaker 4: but no that it took me to the age of seven.
[1:46:30] Speaker 1: So now, have did you have any other experiences that
[1:46:34] Speaker 1: could have been military involvement or just a negative entities.
[1:46:41] Speaker 4: Really, that's the only one that I have any significant
[1:46:44] Speaker 4: recall of. I've had strange dreams of also being in
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: these underground places where I'm trying to escape, I'm running away,
[1:46:52] Speaker 4: and so it makes me wonder if I have had
[1:46:54] Speaker 4: other experiences or I'm just trying to come to terms
[1:46:57] Speaker 4: with these things. But yeah, that's the only one that
[1:46:59] Speaker 4: I have recall of.
[1:47:02] Speaker 1: Now, something that I find interesting that's been in I
[1:47:05] Speaker 1: don't know, maybe eighty ninety percent of contacting abduct these
[1:47:10] Speaker 1: testimonies is that these beings are wearing jumpsuits.
[1:47:14] Speaker 3: Whether they be little.
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: Gray beings or tall beings or even insectoid beings, they're
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: all wearing like form fitting jumpsuits, some with emblems on them.
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: Is this something that you've noticed with the you know,
[1:47:26] Speaker 1: most of your contact experience, that these beings are wearing
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: these jumpsuits.
[1:47:31] Speaker 4: I would say some of them doing some of them,
[1:47:33] Speaker 4: don't you know? The manted type being, the insect like
[1:47:38] Speaker 4: being had on a jumpsuit. The tall white who is
[1:47:41] Speaker 4: teaching me had on a jumpsuit. But those are the
[1:47:44] Speaker 4: only two I recall having jumpsuits. Yeah, I don't. I
[1:47:50] Speaker 4: don't remember like the grays working with me in jumpsuits.
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: So that's very and no, I guess is the answer.
[1:47:56] Speaker 1: To that one the grays that you've worked with, did
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: you find them more kind of robotic like or more
[1:48:03] Speaker 1: humanoid and biological?
[1:48:06] Speaker 3: And were they smaller or taller.
[1:48:09] Speaker 4: I have had I don't remember the robotic types at all.
[1:48:14] Speaker 4: I don't have recall of those. The gray beings that
[1:48:18] Speaker 4: I have had contact with. And one time I was
[1:48:23] Speaker 4: awake and I knew they were coming, so I forced
[1:48:25] Speaker 4: myself to stay awake. They were much smaller than what
[1:48:28] Speaker 4: I would think of as you know, a typical gray
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: that's like three and a half feet tall or whatever.
[1:48:34] Speaker 4: I would say, maybe two and a half to three
[1:48:36] Speaker 4: feet tall. They were very very small, very small, and
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: very childlike. And the experience I had and recall the best.
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: I have never felt that level of love in my life,
[1:48:53] Speaker 4: you know. And in those three categories, this one's definitely
[1:48:56] Speaker 4: in the very loving, gentle amazing experience that I've had.
[1:49:01] Speaker 4: And this would have been around two thousand and two.
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: I was standing outside with my mom during one of
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: the meteor showers of what it must have been like
[1:49:13] Speaker 4: the leand I think it was in August, and I
[1:49:17] Speaker 4: had this sinking feeling like, oh gosh, something's going to
[1:49:20] Speaker 4: happen tonight. I know it, but I'm going to stay up.
[1:49:24] Speaker 4: I'm not going to go to sleep. I'm going to
[1:49:27] Speaker 4: experience this or I'm going to call myself crazy. And
[1:49:31] Speaker 4: around three am is when they came through my bedroom door,
[1:49:36] Speaker 4: and there were three of them. But like I said,
[1:49:37] Speaker 4: they were tiny, very very small, and child just. They
[1:49:44] Speaker 4: had this enthusiasm and bounce about them and definitely not robotic.
[1:49:49] Speaker 4: If you've seen close encounters of the third kind. When
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: the ship lands and it opens and the beings come
[1:49:55] Speaker 4: out and they're just sort of skipping. There's very much
[1:49:59] Speaker 4: what what they were like, and you know, they came
[1:50:02] Speaker 4: in the room and one of them actually crawled onto
[1:50:04] Speaker 4: the bed that I was sitting on, and he came
[1:50:09] Speaker 4: up close and put his hand up on my chest
[1:50:12] Speaker 4: and he told me, in thirty seven you're gonna have
[1:50:15] Speaker 4: some problems here. And I didn't understand what in thirty
[1:50:19] Speaker 4: seven meant. But then everything kind of switched into this
[1:50:23] Speaker 4: weird dream like state and I was on ship and
[1:50:26] Speaker 4: we were looking at mood rings. I don't know, it
[1:50:27] Speaker 4: gets really bizarre. And I know that it's you know,
[1:50:31] Speaker 4: very common for these things to turn into some sort
[1:50:34] Speaker 4: of astral thing that happens. But I would have been
[1:50:39] Speaker 4: like twenty seven at the time. When I was thirty seven.
[1:50:41] Speaker 4: I did end up having a lump that in my
[1:50:45] Speaker 4: chest that had to be looked at. And when that happened,
[1:50:48] Speaker 4: I thought, maybe that's what he meant. Maybe that's what
[1:50:52] Speaker 4: he meant, you know, but I don't know.
[1:50:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very it could very well be. Now is
[1:50:59] Speaker 1: there the community between you and these beings? It's psychic communication?
[1:51:04] Speaker 1: Whenever I've had my experiences, it was basically a meditative
[1:51:08] Speaker 1: experience in the entities that I was communicating with.
[1:51:11] Speaker 3: It was like.
[1:51:14] Speaker 1: It was like at this emotion or feeling that I got,
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: or kind of like mental imagery that I understood to
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: be a language immediately, and it was this immediate type
[1:51:23] Speaker 1: of communication to where I could ask a question and
[1:51:25] Speaker 1: the answer would come before I was even done asking
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: the question. Is that something similar to what you experienced?
[1:51:33] Speaker 4: It really is the other day, this would probably be
[1:51:37] Speaker 4: my most recent experience with contact. I was asleep in
[1:51:43] Speaker 4: dreaming and I was approached by being who who was
[1:51:47] Speaker 4: teaching me about bees and how bees communicate in a
[1:51:51] Speaker 4: hive mind type of fashion. And it has to do
[1:51:54] Speaker 4: with vibration. So if you raise your vibration, then you
[1:51:57] Speaker 4: can reach this consciousness line level where you can tap
[1:52:01] Speaker 4: into what we are thinking about. And if you can
[1:52:03] Speaker 4: tap into our thoughts, then we can communicate that way.
[1:52:07] Speaker 4: And it was it was fascinating being able to learn
[1:52:12] Speaker 4: how that communication works. If I sit and I and
[1:52:15] Speaker 4: I clear my mind and raise my vibration, you know,
[1:52:19] Speaker 4: through you know, slight transfer meditation, the information is very
[1:52:23] Speaker 4: very easy for me to reach and grasp and it
[1:52:26] Speaker 4: does come in either words or pictures. But then I'm
[1:52:31] Speaker 4: able to tell others you know what it is that
[1:52:34] Speaker 4: I'm saying. If somebody asks question, I can just It's
[1:52:37] Speaker 4: almost just like reaching up and pulling the information out
[1:52:40] Speaker 4: and giving it. Okay, this is what is in this consciousness.
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yes, it does, it does. And
[1:52:48] Speaker 1: when is this you know, contact and communication? Is it
[1:52:52] Speaker 1: really kind of ongoing? And have you gotten any basically
[1:52:57] Speaker 1: profound messages from these beings recently?
[1:53:01] Speaker 4: It really is like just having a stream of information
[1:53:05] Speaker 4: in my head and anytime I want something or I
[1:53:08] Speaker 4: need even reassurance whatever, it's there and available to me.
[1:53:13] Speaker 4: It's like having a constant, you know. It's almost like
[1:53:17] Speaker 4: an angel, devil on the shoulder type of thing. There
[1:53:19] Speaker 4: is always communication happening. And yeah, some of the profound
[1:53:25] Speaker 4: things that have come across recently, I was saying the
[1:53:28] Speaker 4: past year since publishing my book has been you as
[1:53:34] Speaker 4: a people need to heal your traumas so that we
[1:53:38] Speaker 4: can communicate with you without you, guys, being in a
[1:53:41] Speaker 4: fear state, because if you go into a fear state,
[1:53:43] Speaker 4: we cannot talk, we cannot tell you why we are here.
[1:53:47] Speaker 4: Because you can't hear us. So we've got to work
[1:53:51] Speaker 4: on those traumas, heal those traumas, and be able to
[1:53:53] Speaker 4: communicate from a state of calm so that we can
[1:53:57] Speaker 4: hear the messages without warping it due to panic or
[1:54:02] Speaker 4: due to trauma. And so that is one thing that
[1:54:05] Speaker 4: was really really strong that came through recently. And then
[1:54:09] Speaker 4: you know, just uh, just a really fast thing that
[1:54:12] Speaker 4: had happened. I was on a radio show with Jimmy Church.
[1:54:16] Speaker 4: I was doing Fade to Black, and he was asking
[1:54:18] Speaker 4: me pointed questions like Okay, so how do they get
[1:54:21] Speaker 4: from here to there? Where are they? Where are they from?
[1:54:23] Speaker 4: How do they travel? What's going on? And and instantaneous
[1:54:27] Speaker 4: information I had was that's irrelevant. And I was like, wow, okay,
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: that's irrelevant. They're not traveling that way. It's not linear
[1:54:37] Speaker 4: like you're thinking. You know, it's a yeah, it was.
[1:54:40] Speaker 4: It was cool just to have that instant answer right there.
[1:54:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really cool.
[1:54:46] Speaker 1: Now for throughout your experiences, have you had any types
[1:54:50] Speaker 1: of experience where it could have been some type of
[1:54:54] Speaker 1: DNA or fertilization experiments.
[1:54:58] Speaker 3: I've had quite a few contact.
[1:54:59] Speaker 1: These that say they've even met hybrid children on chips
[1:55:02] Speaker 1: anything similar to that.
[1:55:04] Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I have. I have been through the whole thing,
[1:55:10] Speaker 4: the whole gamut. Uh. When I was taken to the room,
[1:55:15] Speaker 4: the gymnasium room with the being that was teaching me
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: the gravity manipulation. Right before that, I was I had
[1:55:23] Speaker 4: you know, I was stripped of clothes and checked for
[1:55:26] Speaker 4: fertilization issues and things like that. But I was right
[1:55:30] Speaker 4: at puberty. And then I have had several times where
[1:55:35] Speaker 4: I thought I was pregnant but I wasn't, And then
[1:55:39] Speaker 4: you know, having all the symptoms and like why it
[1:55:41] Speaker 4: is going on, and then only to have a dream
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: of having a child, and then you know, and and
[1:55:47] Speaker 4: I've been able to you know, like okay, it's about
[1:55:52] Speaker 4: three months, like okay, I feel like I'm pregnant. Three
[1:55:54] Speaker 4: months later I have the dream that there's a baby
[1:55:57] Speaker 4: has taken And then of course during that time when
[1:56:00] Speaker 4: I was in that underground area with the other women
[1:56:03] Speaker 4: that were calling out, I knew that they were taking
[1:56:05] Speaker 4: a child at that point. So yes, the DNA harvesting
[1:56:11] Speaker 4: and the and the creation of hybrids is very real
[1:56:13] Speaker 4: to me.
[1:56:15] Speaker 1: See things like that, and different ancient stories and accounts
[1:56:21] Speaker 1: that you know, we could have been genetically modified thousands
[1:56:24] Speaker 1: of years ago and we may just be an experiment
[1:56:27] Speaker 1: for extra terrestrials. They're just kind of looking after us all,
[1:56:32] Speaker 1: you know, for thousands of years and you know, doing
[1:56:35] Speaker 1: experiments harvesting our DNA, making hybrids. What do you think
[1:56:40] Speaker 1: about that possibility that we could just be a big
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: experiment for extraterrestrials.
[1:56:47] Speaker 4: I think I think there's a lot to that. I
[1:56:49] Speaker 4: think that we were created there was some sort of
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: purposeful changing of the DNA for for whatever it was
[1:56:57] Speaker 4: that they needed. You know, I've heard different stories, whether
[1:57:00] Speaker 4: it was just to be minors for gold or you know,
[1:57:04] Speaker 4: whatever it is. There there was a purpose behind us
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: becoming who we are. You know, goes back to the
[1:57:11] Speaker 4: missing link. How did how did we get from here
[1:57:13] Speaker 4: to hear with the consciousness you know, and things like that,
[1:57:17] Speaker 4: And to me, it rings very true. Whether it's real,
[1:57:22] Speaker 4: I don't know, but it rings true.
[1:57:23] Speaker 3: It does. Yeah.
[1:57:25] Speaker 1: And the more the more I look into it and
[1:57:27] Speaker 1: the more accounts I hear, it just brings me closer
[1:57:30] Speaker 1: to that conclusion, especially when you look at all the
[1:57:33] Speaker 1: connections with paranormal activity and metaphysical things that occur if
[1:57:40] Speaker 1: you look at hotspots like Skinwalker Ranch or Mount Shasta
[1:57:45] Speaker 1: or Sedona, Arizona, these places that have like great paranormal
[1:57:50] Speaker 1: energy and all these strange things happen around the same time,
[1:57:53] Speaker 1: like you'll have UFO sidings or cryptid sidings, paranormal activity
[1:57:58] Speaker 1: all kind of concentrated into this one area. And being
[1:58:02] Speaker 1: that it's all connected, I don't know, it makes me
[1:58:04] Speaker 1: think that we may be under the control of some
[1:58:08] Speaker 1: very highly intelligent species that has the control over our
[1:58:12] Speaker 1: reality basically, right, I.
[1:58:15] Speaker 4: Would not be surprised at all. I think that we're
[1:58:18] Speaker 4: only on the verge of fully understanding what's going on.
[1:58:21] Speaker 4: And you know, as you said earlier, what is this
[1:58:24] Speaker 4: understanding what is going on? And that's those things that
[1:58:27] Speaker 4: we can only speculate about at this point in time.
[1:58:30] Speaker 4: And I think that the research, especially with consciousness, is
[1:58:34] Speaker 4: really starting to go there, and it's very exciting.
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: It is, and it's exciting that they are kind of
[1:58:43] Speaker 1: coming out with this in the mainstream and our own
[1:58:46] Speaker 1: government is talking about UFOs. Although I don't trust any
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: of it.
[1:58:50] Speaker 3: It's you know, it's being painted as a threat.
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: I really don't like this whole TTS a thing I
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: don't trust the the people that are involved with it,
[1:59:02] Speaker 1: but I pay attention to it because I think it's fascinating.
[1:59:05] Speaker 1: I think the timing of all this information being released
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: is very interesting. We're supposed to have more of it
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: coming up in June, and I think it's kind of
[1:59:16] Speaker 1: opening up people's minds to it. But I think it's
[1:59:19] Speaker 1: very I have to be cautious when I look at
[1:59:23] Speaker 1: this stuff. I don't know what's going on, and I
[1:59:25] Speaker 1: think that there is some kind of agenda behind it.
[1:59:28] Speaker 3: What do you think?
[1:59:30] Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, there's an agenda behind each and every
[1:59:34] Speaker 4: being that is contacting any human. You know, there's an agenda,
[1:59:38] Speaker 4: whether it's genetics, whether it's manipulation. You know, we don't know.
[1:59:42] Speaker 4: We just don't know what the agendas are. But the
[1:59:45] Speaker 4: government itself is going to have an agenda, and that
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: agenda may be different than the agendas that we are receiving.
[1:59:52] Speaker 4: As contact ease one of the things that I've been
[1:59:58] Speaker 4: able to deduce. I mean, we don't know, we don't
[2:00:00] Speaker 4: know what these guys want, we don't know what they're after,
[2:00:03] Speaker 4: but oftentimes contact these come back with particular messages, and
[2:00:08] Speaker 4: and those messages are you know, to take care of
[2:00:11] Speaker 4: the planet, you know, and work on conservancy and all
[2:00:15] Speaker 4: of these things, clean your water, do those you know,
[2:00:18] Speaker 4: all the things to save and protect the planet. Another
[2:00:21] Speaker 4: thing is do not wage war, especially nuclear war, and
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: love each other and and those those things that we
[2:00:29] Speaker 4: receive en mass. It's not just one or two experiences,
[2:00:32] Speaker 4: it's many experiences that come back with these messages. And
[2:00:37] Speaker 4: and my thoughts are, well, then they can't be all
[2:00:39] Speaker 4: that bad, you know, these these beings. But you know,
[2:00:44] Speaker 4: thinking of what the government could be alluding to when
[2:00:49] Speaker 4: we're thinking of creating a space force and and you know,
[2:00:54] Speaker 4: ideas of what we have to unify as a planet
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: to protect ourselves from the outside enemy really makes me nervous, like, really,
[2:01:04] Speaker 4: is that really? Are we really at that in danger?
[2:01:08] Speaker 4: Or is this a sham? I don't know, you know,
[2:01:12] Speaker 4: That's where I get like, ah, I'm not so sure,
[2:01:15] Speaker 4: and I don't trust it either.
[2:01:17] Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely something interesting to look at. Do
[2:01:21] Speaker 1: you think that more people are actually having contact experiences
[2:01:26] Speaker 1: now or do you think it's just access to the
[2:01:29] Speaker 1: internet and people are becoming more comfortable talking about it,
[2:01:34] Speaker 1: or do you think there's actually an uptick in this
[2:01:36] Speaker 1: kind of contact activity.
[2:01:38] Speaker 4: I'm not sure if there's an uptick in it, but
[2:01:40] Speaker 4: definitely people are becoming more open to speaking about it,
[2:01:44] Speaker 4: feeling more protected as they do so, or supported, which
[2:01:48] Speaker 4: is hugely important. Knowing that you have a community that
[2:01:52] Speaker 4: will accept you for who you are is hugely a
[2:01:56] Speaker 4: relief for experiencers and being afraid to talk because of,
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: you know, the stigma around this. However, at the same time,
[2:02:05] Speaker 4: I think that more and more people are all of
[2:02:07] Speaker 4: a sudden becoming aware of it. It's almost like people
[2:02:12] Speaker 4: are turning online, if that makes sense. I'm meeting more
[2:02:16] Speaker 4: and more people who are connecting the dots, and oftentimes
[2:02:20] Speaker 4: it is listening to another experiencer such as myself, you know,
[2:02:24] Speaker 4: anybody else that's on a podcast or a radio show,
[2:02:28] Speaker 4: and explaining that what has happened, and people are like,
[2:02:32] Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I remember something similar to that, Oh
[2:02:35] Speaker 4: my gosh, I've had those bruises, and then being able
[2:02:37] Speaker 4: to say, oh, shoot, this really has happened to me,
[2:02:41] Speaker 4: and it's I don't know, maybe it's just like that
[2:02:45] Speaker 4: snowball effect. More people are feeling comfortable, so more people
[2:02:48] Speaker 4: are talking, they're writing, they're publishing. It's getting out there
[2:02:52] Speaker 4: more and more and people are able to hear it
[2:02:54] Speaker 4: and recognize it in themselves.
[2:02:57] Speaker 1: Something else I find really common among contact these and
[2:03:01] Speaker 1: experiencers and people who just you know, have stranger things
[2:03:04] Speaker 1: happen in their life in general, is synchronicities and the
[2:03:09] Speaker 1: abundance of them in their lives, and that the fact
[2:03:11] Speaker 1: that you pretty much have to follow them if they're
[2:03:14] Speaker 1: going to appear there. I always have to follow any
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: any kind of strange thing that pops up in front
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: of me that does point me a certain direction. I
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: go there, and it usually ends up pretty good for me,
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: you know. And I've had all kinds of strange things
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: happen like that, especially in the past few years, kind
[2:03:29] Speaker 1: of leading me in certain directions. Would you say, if
[2:03:32] Speaker 1: you know, to follow those synchronicities, if you're if you're
[2:03:34] Speaker 1: experiencing them.
[2:03:36] Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah. Some of those synchronicities can be numbers. A
[2:03:41] Speaker 4: lot of people see the the repeated numbers four four
[2:03:45] Speaker 4: four one, you know, eleven, eleven to to two, whatever
[2:03:48] Speaker 4: it is, Pay attention and listen and you know, check
[2:03:53] Speaker 4: your surroundings, what's going on right now or what's about
[2:03:56] Speaker 4: to happen? The more of the synchronicities we can follow
[2:04:00] Speaker 4: and understand, the more we understand how the universe or
[2:04:05] Speaker 4: whoever these beings are, are communicating with us. I had
[2:04:09] Speaker 4: one really intense series of synchronicities that happened to me
[2:04:15] Speaker 4: a couple of years ago that helped me understand this
[2:04:19] Speaker 4: is direct communication. I was at a paranormal conference, just
[2:04:26] Speaker 4: a very small one in a Santa Fe and I
[2:04:29] Speaker 4: was eating breakfast in the casino and the song Don't
[2:04:34] Speaker 4: Stop Believing comes on. I happen to love Steve Perry,
[2:04:37] Speaker 4: so Don't Stop Believing comes on the radio. I'm like, yeah,
[2:04:40] Speaker 4: I love this song. It's cool. I look up and
[2:04:42] Speaker 4: the guy across from me is wearing a T shirt
[2:04:45] Speaker 4: that says don't Stop Believing on the back, and I'm like, whoa,
[2:04:47] Speaker 4: that's weird. You know there's you a synchronicity. You would
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: think that would be it, and yeah, it was cool.
[2:04:54] Speaker 4: Later that afternoon, I was walking down the hallway and
[2:04:59] Speaker 4: I had one of the those strange sounds in my
[2:05:01] Speaker 4: ears that happened often to contact these It's just a
[2:05:04] Speaker 4: tone that will start and I'm like, okay, I'm hearing
[2:05:08] Speaker 4: the tone, and then that guy in that shirt walked
[2:05:12] Speaker 4: by me, you know, he like kind of passed me,
[2:05:14] Speaker 4: and I was able to see the shirt again, and
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, okay, okay, so this is direct communication.
[2:05:21] Speaker 4: I get it. You made the sound, I acknowledged it,
[2:05:25] Speaker 4: and then there's the guy, so I knew I knew
[2:05:28] Speaker 4: it was. Yeah. So I mean the synchronicity is are communication,
[2:05:33] Speaker 4: that's they're trying to get our attention.
[2:05:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:05:36] Speaker 1: I had a fun one the other day where I
[2:05:38] Speaker 1: was it's actually saying something and the TV person on
[2:05:43] Speaker 1: the TV said the same thing that I said at
[2:05:45] Speaker 1: the same time, and it was it was something that
[2:05:48] Speaker 1: I was supposed to do later in the afternoon, and
[2:05:50] Speaker 1: it just kind of helped me, you know, figure something out.
[2:05:52] Speaker 1: So it was like, wow, that was, you know, really cool.
[2:05:55] Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely definitely got to follow those. Now, you
[2:05:59] Speaker 1: also do readings and shamanic energy work.
[2:06:04] Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that.
[2:06:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, about the time that I went to
[2:06:10] Speaker 4: see Stanton Freeman when I was around nineteen years old
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: is when I began to do learn about taro. So
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: I've been doing tarot readings for almost thirty years at
[2:06:21] Speaker 4: this point in time, and as I have developed it
[2:06:26] Speaker 4: and learned it and begin to understand where the information
[2:06:30] Speaker 4: is coming from in my mind in the readings. And
[2:06:33] Speaker 4: oftentimes it is because of et contact and the expanded
[2:06:36] Speaker 4: abilities for telepi and things like that that it makes
[2:06:40] Speaker 4: it easier for me. But also contact through contact, I
[2:06:45] Speaker 4: have learned how to like walk between dimensions, how to
[2:06:52] Speaker 4: go into a trance state and go to a different
[2:06:54] Speaker 4: place or a different time and heal you know, somebody
[2:07:00] Speaker 4: like a past life and just work on what happened
[2:07:04] Speaker 4: at the time and shift energies around. Oftentimes around trauma,
[2:07:10] Speaker 4: we will like a piece of our soul will detach,
[2:07:13] Speaker 4: and I am able to go back and get all
[2:07:14] Speaker 4: those pieces and heal the person so that they can
[2:07:17] Speaker 4: continue forward in their life. And all of these things
[2:07:20] Speaker 4: I think are directly related to my experiences because I
[2:07:23] Speaker 4: was taught by them how to do this. I say
[2:07:26] Speaker 4: shaman because I have no other idea what to call
[2:07:29] Speaker 4: myself when it comes to these things. I don't know.
[2:07:32] Speaker 4: I don't know what it is that I'm doing. I
[2:07:34] Speaker 4: just know that it's energy manipulation. It has to do
[2:07:36] Speaker 4: with interdimensionality and being able to step out of space
[2:07:40] Speaker 4: time and walk and figure out where it is I
[2:07:45] Speaker 4: need to go that way. Yeah, so it's real convoluted,
[2:07:50] Speaker 4: but no, I get it.
[2:07:52] Speaker 3: That's great.
[2:07:53] Speaker 1: And you're also going to be a presenter at this
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: year's laugh flin UFO Mega Conference. You're just going to
[2:08:00] Speaker 1: be basically be talking about your experiences through your life, right.
[2:08:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, basically that's exactly what I'm going to be doing.
[2:08:07] Speaker 4: I'm going to be walking people through what it was
[2:08:11] Speaker 4: like to live in the trauma state and come to
[2:08:13] Speaker 4: terms with it through the shamanic lens and you know,
[2:08:17] Speaker 4: understanding the healing that was happening on me on a
[2:08:20] Speaker 4: very energetic level to come around to the other side
[2:08:24] Speaker 4: and understand and accept and even embrace being in contact E.
[2:08:30] Speaker 3: That's awesome.
[2:08:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to that, and I'm
[2:08:33] Speaker 1: looking forward to meeting you in Laughlin. I want to
[2:08:35] Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on tonight. If people
[2:08:38] Speaker 1: want to find out more about you and you know,
[2:08:41] Speaker 1: hopefully come out and meet us in Laughlin. What's the
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: best way they can find out more about you and
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: your work.
[2:08:48] Speaker 4: I have a website Aaron Montgomery dot net. You can
[2:08:52] Speaker 4: always reach me through that. You can also find me
[2:08:55] Speaker 4: on Facebook, Dirty Little Secret has its own you just
[2:09:00] Speaker 4: have to make sure you see my face on there.
[2:09:03] Speaker 4: I know there are other dirty little secrets that are available.
[2:09:05] Speaker 4: And then also I have a page for my shamanic work,
[2:09:08] Speaker 4: which is Aaron Montgomery multi dimensional Messenger.
[2:09:12] Speaker 1: Awesome, well, Aerin, thank you so much again for coming
[2:09:15] Speaker 1: on tonight.
[2:09:15] Speaker 3: That was great.
[2:09:16] Speaker 1: Look forward to talking with you at the conference and
[2:09:19] Speaker 1: hopefully we can have a little sit down there.
[2:09:22] Speaker 4: Wonderful. That would be great.
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