# Mike Sygula | Contracts of The Demiurge, Archonic Tricksters & Deceptive Spirits

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 29 Aug 2026, 1 h 05 min.

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[0:02] Speaker 1: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
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[0:14] Speaker 1: your host, Chris Matthew. Today my guest is Mike Segula.
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[0:41] Speaker 1: back to the show Mike Segula. He is founder of TruthTheory.com.
[0:45] Speaker 1: He is a mentor and spiritual development coach, helping his
[0:48] Speaker 1: clients to align with their true purpose. Mike, welcome back.
[0:52] Speaker 1: How are you doing?
[0:53] Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Chris. Good to be back. How are
[0:58] Speaker 2: things going on your end?
[1:00] Speaker 1: It's going great here, man. It's good to see you again.
[1:04] Speaker 1: Last time you were on, you shared your observations from
[1:08] Speaker 1: the work that you've been doing with the psychic, essentially
[1:11] Speaker 1: performing a kind of regression. You've been presented troubling evidence
[1:17] Speaker 1: that even the afterlife may be controlled to some degree
[1:22] Speaker 1: by malevolent cosmic entities. Today, we're going to explore your
[1:26] Speaker 1: research even further into... how dogmatic theological systems, rituals, even
[1:33] Speaker 1: what may be considered sacred objects, could energetically affect people
[1:38] Speaker 1: on a soul level, and sometimes not in a very
[1:41] Speaker 1: good way. There's lots to get into here. Before we do,
[1:45] Speaker 1: remind the audience just a little bit about yourself and
[1:47] Speaker 1: let them know how they can get all your content.
[1:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, so my name is Mike Segula. I'm Polish, originally
[1:55] Speaker 2: from Poland, but I have dual citizenship. British as well.
[2:00] Speaker 2: Kind of spent half of my life in Poland, half
[2:02] Speaker 2: outside of Poland. And I'm the founder of Truth Theory,
[2:07] Speaker 2: which is a digital media brand. We create content around
[2:12] Speaker 2: esoteric knowledge, metaphysics, shamanism, personal development, conspiracies. I've been doing
[2:19] Speaker 2: it since 2010, more or less. And additionally, I do.
[2:27] Speaker 2: These energy clearing sessions or healing sessions remotely. And this
[2:33] Speaker 2: helps people to remove entity attachments and karmic contracts and
[2:40] Speaker 2: different types of blockages on their energetic field. And many
[2:45] Speaker 2: of the things that I talk about are related to
[2:51] Speaker 2: some of these sessions that we do. And, uh, you know,
[2:55] Speaker 2: I'm not the only one doing this type of work.
[2:57] Speaker 2: There are other teams because normally there are two people
[3:01] Speaker 2: involved in these sessions. So one person is a psychic
[3:06] Speaker 2: or intuitive. And me who runs the session, I'm more
[3:12] Speaker 2: like someone who guides the psychic, right? So, you know,
[3:16] Speaker 2: when you do remote viewing, for example, um, it works
[3:22] Speaker 2: better if you have two people. because the more the
[3:27] Speaker 2: psychic or intuitive is trying to focus their attention on
[3:32] Speaker 2: getting some information about whatever they are researching, the less
[3:39] Speaker 2: their conscious mind should operate because, you know, you switch
[3:44] Speaker 2: into more kind of subconscious levels of your thinking, right?
[3:49] Speaker 2: So It works better if you have two people because
[3:53] Speaker 2: one person is conscious like me and acting and can
[3:57] Speaker 2: ask questions and the other person can focus purely on
[4:00] Speaker 2: getting information without switching to rational mind and things like that, right?
[4:08] Speaker 2: So this is kind of more or less what I'm doing,
[4:12] Speaker 2: you know, in a nutshell.
[4:15] Speaker 1: Do you have protocols or... a certain structure that you
[4:20] Speaker 1: follow during these procedures to make sure that you're not
[4:24] Speaker 1: leading the person doing their regression in any way, that
[4:28] Speaker 1: you're not implanting any information in there?
[4:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I would say there are
[4:36] Speaker 2: two main types of sessions that can be done, right?
[4:41] Speaker 2: So one is where I work with the clients and
[4:46] Speaker 2: I have permission of the client, right? So, you know,
[4:52] Speaker 2: we try to obtain some information if the client has
[4:55] Speaker 2: any kind of blockages, implants, whatever is going on, and
[4:59] Speaker 2: then learn about the history and things like that. And
[5:04] Speaker 2: second option is more kind of like investigative, you know,
[5:09] Speaker 2: remote viewing, which still holds similar principles, right? But This
[5:16] Speaker 2: is going to be more polluted. Let's say the information
[5:19] Speaker 2: you cannot be 100% sure. I mean, you can never
[5:22] Speaker 2: be 100% sure of any of this stuff because of
[5:25] Speaker 2: so many different factors. But especially when you try to
[5:29] Speaker 2: do remote viewing of some person being historical figure, whatever,
[5:37] Speaker 2: you know, because with the client, I get permission from
[5:41] Speaker 2: the clients. So I have access to their information. with
[5:46] Speaker 2: let's say if i want to remote view jesus or
[5:49] Speaker 2: archangel whatever you know maybe i gotta the psychic can
[5:53] Speaker 2: tap into some field of information about what other people
[5:58] Speaker 2: think about this person or this being maybe this being
[6:02] Speaker 2: is deceptive and not gonna allow me to get accurate
[6:06] Speaker 2: information right so uh there are all these different issues
[6:11] Speaker 2: right and i think this is So I'm aware of
[6:15] Speaker 2: some of this stuff, but I also take into account
[6:20] Speaker 2: everything that comes through different forms, and not only to me,
[6:25] Speaker 2: but to other people. So let's say if we're talking about,
[6:28] Speaker 2: for example, investigating what happens with Catholic church rituals, we
[6:34] Speaker 2: did remote viewing on each of these sacramental rituals, But
[6:41] Speaker 2: also we had people individually who came and had some
[6:45] Speaker 2: of the, you know, blockages or implants or like third ICO.
[6:51] Speaker 2: This is very common thing that is showing up in
[6:55] Speaker 2: the sessions. So, you know, you look at everything and
[7:00] Speaker 2: then you see it repeats, like the information repeats. You know,
[7:04] Speaker 2: I do a session and then someone else tells me
[7:06] Speaker 2: they got exactly the same result. that happened and that
[7:11] Speaker 2: gets me way more kind of convinced that we're getting
[7:16] Speaker 2: on some pretty accurate information when it gets to some
[7:20] Speaker 2: of these things, you know? Yeah.
[7:23] Speaker 1: Now to give a little recap of what we discussed
[7:26] Speaker 1: last time, the same techniques that you were just mentioning,
[7:31] Speaker 1: when you are getting to the state where they may
[7:34] Speaker 1: have had a near-death experience or They're having the life
[7:38] Speaker 1: review for whatever lifetime or another. Looking deeper at the
[7:44] Speaker 1: beings that are performing the life review, you often see
[7:48] Speaker 1: that they're masking themselves, and with a closer look, it's
[7:53] Speaker 1: revealed that they are some kind of malevolent being, gray extraterrestrial, reptilian,
[7:59] Speaker 1: something along those lines. Is that accurate? I mean.
[8:05] Speaker 2: One thing, like the way we do the sessions, I
[8:09] Speaker 2: work with the psychic or intuitive and I try to
[8:12] Speaker 2: get him into light trance or regressive hypnosis or something,
[8:17] Speaker 2: but the client can't just listen or pay attention because
[8:24] Speaker 2: some people work with the client directly and they try
[8:27] Speaker 2: to get him into hypnotic state or regressive hypnosis, but
[8:34] Speaker 2: Most people have low susceptibility to hypnosis and it's very problematic.
[8:41] Speaker 2: That's why, you know, this technique is, in my view,
[8:46] Speaker 2: so much better because I work with the psychic directly
[8:51] Speaker 2: and we try to get into information of the client,
[8:55] Speaker 2: you know, because once we have permission. So this is
[9:00] Speaker 2: kind of what's happening.
[9:02] Speaker 1: So the client isn't entering into any altered state or
[9:06] Speaker 1: hypnotic state.
[9:07] Speaker 2: I mean, some people do it this way. You can
[9:09] Speaker 2: do it both ways, you know, like, but I prefer
[9:13] Speaker 2: this other option because it's always way more effective. And,
[9:18] Speaker 2: you know, when we look into, we try to get,
[9:21] Speaker 2: obtain some information sometimes about, let's say someone has some
[9:26] Speaker 2: sort of etheric implants or any kind of etheric technology installed.
[9:32] Speaker 2: their chakra system I try to obtain information with with
[9:39] Speaker 2: the psychic when this was installed right when was whether
[9:45] Speaker 2: this happened and normally you try to get into like
[9:52] Speaker 2: what was the initial situation because very often when you
[9:57] Speaker 2: have this initial situation the very first encounter or you
[10:02] Speaker 2: know contract it's always linked to karmic contracts right so
[10:06] Speaker 2: it's always some agreement level and the agreement might not
[10:10] Speaker 2: be conscious in the physical sphere so much you know
[10:14] Speaker 2: but on the etheric level on the soul level there
[10:17] Speaker 2: was some agreement And sometimes what happens is that some
[10:21] Speaker 2: of these agreements occurred between incarnations. And then, you know,
[10:28] Speaker 2: we try to remote view, like, what was going on
[10:30] Speaker 2: in that moment. And very often it's the same story. So, like,
[10:34] Speaker 2: you know, maybe a guy who is Catholic or something
[10:37] Speaker 2: believed in a saint, whatever, Paul or some other guy
[10:41] Speaker 2: like that, you know, and he sees that after he dies, like,
[10:46] Speaker 2: It appeared as a saint, you know, beautiful energy, everything. But,
[10:51] Speaker 2: you know, we look deeper and it turns out to
[10:54] Speaker 2: be just like some reptile pretending to be that St.
[10:58] Speaker 2: Paul using some sort of astral technology or something, you know.
[11:04] Speaker 2: And then trying to convince the soul to reincarnate again,
[11:11] Speaker 2: repay karma or do some, you know, experience suffering. And
[11:17] Speaker 2: normally there is hidden agreement there where they get access
[11:21] Speaker 2: to some of the energy of the person. You know,
[11:24] Speaker 2: this is very often the case. And even like my
[11:27] Speaker 2: cousin who works with me, he had his own near-death
[11:31] Speaker 2: experience years ago where he described the life review process.
[11:36] Speaker 2: He was very, you know, described this to me in detail,
[11:39] Speaker 2: exactly what was going on, which is one of those
[11:43] Speaker 2: common things that people describe.
[11:47] Speaker 1: In your talking point, you said that different objects or
[11:52] Speaker 1: rituals that can trigger these contracts, and it often occurs
[11:57] Speaker 1: with different theological or dogmatic belief systems, even in Christianity.
[12:01] Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah.
[12:05] Speaker 2: So many rituals, you know, can potentially trigger a contract
[12:15] Speaker 2: with negative entity. And as a result, there could be
[12:20] Speaker 2: some sort of energetic influence from the end side of
[12:25] Speaker 2: the entity could be like some of these astral implants
[12:30] Speaker 2: installed or sorts of different things, you know, but you know, it's,
[12:37] Speaker 2: it's like when you, let's say, let's start even with magic,
[12:41] Speaker 2: you know, you have books of spells or, all sorts
[12:44] Speaker 2: of different magic rituals, you know, like they always give
[12:48] Speaker 2: you a procedure to do. Light a candle, put something,
[12:53] Speaker 2: you know, whatever, like some powder or something, wrap some
[12:58] Speaker 2: oil in your body, whatever it is, whatever the formula is.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Because when you have a formula, specific formula, and you
[13:07] Speaker 2: do a ritual to achieve some result, almost always, it
[13:14] Speaker 2: will be linked to some entity or group of entities
[13:19] Speaker 2: and some contracts. And it's almost like when you pray
[13:25] Speaker 2: and you call specific being, this being straight away will
[13:29] Speaker 2: react and know that you are calling this being. So
[13:33] Speaker 2: it almost works with a very similar principle. That's why
[13:38] Speaker 2: A lot of these rituals, and you have witches doing
[13:41] Speaker 2: spells or whatever, some kind of rituals to create some results,
[13:46] Speaker 2: they will work. But most people have no idea what
[13:52] Speaker 2: comes as a side effect or the price, because this
[13:57] Speaker 2: is not very obvious. So you might hear a story
[14:02] Speaker 2: of shamans somewhere whatever, you know, like Amazon or anywhere.
[14:08] Speaker 2: And they say when they do their ceremonies or ayahuasca
[14:11] Speaker 2: or something, many recall the same God. And, you know,
[14:17] Speaker 2: these shamans will tell you that maybe they saw, I
[14:21] Speaker 2: don't know, a tiger in their vision. And other shaman
[14:26] Speaker 2: will say the same thing. He saw the tiger. And
[14:29] Speaker 2: for them, the tiger... is a symbol of some God, right?
[14:33] Speaker 2: So when the tiger showed up in the ceremony, that
[14:37] Speaker 2: means the God contacted them, whatever. But in reality, it
[14:41] Speaker 2: could be any kind of being projecting this through the
[14:45] Speaker 2: third eye, you know, as a vision, right? So it
[14:49] Speaker 2: can be a reptile, it can be whatever else. So
[14:54] Speaker 2: this level of deception is happening a lot with many
[14:58] Speaker 2: rituals or most rituals more most spells more most practices
[15:03] Speaker 2: like that and most people don't even know so they
[15:07] Speaker 2: will look at it okay you know i did some
[15:10] Speaker 2: ritual or whatever i manifested this or that or and
[15:14] Speaker 2: then there is a catch you know there is a
[15:17] Speaker 2: payback time and the payback could be a thing attached
[15:21] Speaker 2: so suddenly you know the person might i don't know
[15:24] Speaker 2: have a lot of pain in their back two months
[15:28] Speaker 2: later and it stays like that or it's becoming some
[15:31] Speaker 2: something happens in their life six months later and it's
[15:35] Speaker 2: constantly angry or you know some accident whatever and this
[15:39] Speaker 2: was a part of the deal but they were not
[15:42] Speaker 2: aware of it and they couldn't connect these things because
[15:45] Speaker 2: they they didn't understand the full mechanics of what was
[15:49] Speaker 2: happening so i've realized first through my own experiences because
[15:55] Speaker 2: I used to do a lot of these rituals myself
[15:57] Speaker 2: and I started observing a lot of these patterns in
[16:00] Speaker 2: my life and then through like getting into learning these
[16:04] Speaker 2: practices and techniques and seeing how it works with other people.
[16:09] Speaker 1: Do you think that it's more of an ecosystem of
[16:12] Speaker 1: intelligences with different ideologies different ideas of relationships they want
[16:20] Speaker 1: with humanity and different intentions? Or is it one etheric
[16:26] Speaker 1: intelligence or one species of beings that can manifest as
[16:31] Speaker 1: anything it wants to, playing both roles of light and dark?
[16:36] Speaker 1: I can think offhand of several experiences that I have
[16:40] Speaker 1: been told and even my own experiences where this seems
[16:44] Speaker 1: to be the case. One in particular is A shaman
[16:48] Speaker 1: was in a deep meditative state, and he somehow found
[16:53] Speaker 1: himself in this energetic realm where these shadow people were
[16:59] Speaker 1: chasing him, and he couldn't wake up out of this state.
[17:02] Speaker 1: He was stuck. Eventually, the shadow people caught him and
[17:07] Speaker 1: started pulling him down this endless pit, and he felt
[17:10] Speaker 1: like he was fighting with this shadow person, falling down
[17:13] Speaker 1: this pit forever. He doesn't know how long this was
[17:18] Speaker 1: unfolding until finally he realized that he needed to show
[17:23] Speaker 1: this being love. Something just intuitively told him to do that.
[17:28] Speaker 1: And when he started to feel empathy and compassion for
[17:31] Speaker 1: the being, it turned into an angel and started flying
[17:35] Speaker 1: him out of the endless pit. And he eventually came
[17:39] Speaker 1: out of the meditative state after that. Anyone having very profound,
[17:44] Speaker 1: terrifying paranormal experiences, later on they may have a regression
[17:49] Speaker 1: or some other experience where they look back and realize
[17:52] Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad being, but something triggers their perception
[17:56] Speaker 1: to where they have a different understanding of the experience.
[18:01] Speaker 1: This happens often with abductees and the regressions they're having.
[18:06] Speaker 1: It's either different beings with different intentions or one type
[18:13] Speaker 1: of spiritual intelligence or species that can manifest in different
[18:18] Speaker 1: ways do you have any thoughts on that i mean.
[18:22] Speaker 2: In the astral you know you can manifest in whatever
[18:27] Speaker 2: you want because it's all based on consciousness and intention
[18:31] Speaker 2: and and same like you can travel instantly and you
[18:35] Speaker 2: know i'm i know people who like for example i'm
[18:39] Speaker 2: not sure if i mentioned this to you but There's
[18:42] Speaker 2: this Polish guy who I interviewed a couple of times
[18:45] Speaker 2: and he wrote a lot of books about astral traveling.
[18:48] Speaker 2: So he has something like 20 years of experience with
[18:53] Speaker 2: this stuff. And he told me that sometimes in the
[18:57] Speaker 2: astral he would pretend to be Jesus and he would
[19:00] Speaker 2: appear as Jesus to other figures or souls to kind
[19:05] Speaker 2: of a little bit for fun, but also just to
[19:09] Speaker 2: Comfort them, you know when they were scared or something,
[19:12] Speaker 2: you know, so think about like this guy can do
[19:14] Speaker 2: it think about what these beings can do so That's
[19:22] Speaker 2: one thing about that in the astral kind of level
[19:26] Speaker 2: It's all consciousness based so so they can the forms
[19:31] Speaker 2: should not be taken Literally all the time, but because
[19:36] Speaker 2: there is a free will principle You can request the
[19:39] Speaker 2: real form sometimes, or especially if there is any contract,
[19:42] Speaker 2: then you can get the information about what's happened. So
[19:46] Speaker 2: you can get real form. And we very often see
[19:49] Speaker 2: that the beans that we observe they very often appear
[19:53] Speaker 2: in a completely different form and when you request the
[19:56] Speaker 2: real information they they show their true colors you know
[20:01] Speaker 2: so that's um one thing and uh When it gets
[20:06] Speaker 2: to what you were saying about can this be one
[20:08] Speaker 2: group and maybe they can be both good and bad,
[20:12] Speaker 2: I think there are different factions, different groups that have
[20:19] Speaker 2: similar agendas. It's like we have in the world, you
[20:24] Speaker 2: have Israel and US and then you have Iran and
[20:28] Speaker 2: some Middle Eastern countries that collaborate because they have similar goals,
[20:34] Speaker 2: but they They don't like the other group or whatever.
[20:37] Speaker 2: So it's a little bit like that. There are groups
[20:41] Speaker 2: like definitely reptilian types, definitely insectoid types. They often work
[20:49] Speaker 2: with greys more as robot kind of helpers. And often
[20:58] Speaker 2: astral parasites, different types, you know. And They seem to
[21:05] Speaker 2: be having similar goals. There are some beings on top
[21:10] Speaker 2: that show very often, like Demiurge, Baal, Lucifer. These are
[21:16] Speaker 2: some of the top guys, let's say. And I think
[21:22] Speaker 2: this example you described, I think there's a lot of
[21:27] Speaker 2: deception going on. So if you have a guy who claims,
[21:29] Speaker 2: first he was attacked by shadow figures, and then they
[21:34] Speaker 2: appeared as angels, I'm not super convinced. Maybe, you know,
[21:40] Speaker 2: maybe the shadow figures saw that he understood how to
[21:44] Speaker 2: protect himself, so they suddenly shifted the form to kind
[21:48] Speaker 2: of make him believe that, you know, oh, we are
[21:52] Speaker 2: the angels, don't worry, like just to kind of, so
[21:55] Speaker 2: he stops or, you know, he becomes more comfortable or something.
[22:00] Speaker 2: Would probably believe more in something like that. My cousin,
[22:04] Speaker 2: for example, he told me how he had these abduction experiences.
[22:10] Speaker 2: So it was in the dream state where he would
[22:15] Speaker 2: find himself in the dream on this ship with Gray
[22:20] Speaker 2: looking at him and he was like fixed to the table,
[22:23] Speaker 2: like almost like some experiment being done on him. And
[22:28] Speaker 2: then one of the Grays telepathically like speaks to him
[22:31] Speaker 2: and says, oh, don't worry, you're one of us, you know,
[22:35] Speaker 2: like we're friends, like we're just going to do some checks.
[22:39] Speaker 2: And then he woke up from the dream and he said, basically,
[22:43] Speaker 2: like he had a lot of pain in his, you know,
[22:49] Speaker 2: like below the belt, let's call it. So it seems
[22:54] Speaker 2: like literally he got abducted and they tried to use,
[23:00] Speaker 2: they tried to use some, trickery you know and and
[23:04] Speaker 2: just to like add one example recently a couple of
[23:08] Speaker 2: days ago a guy came to us who was being
[23:12] Speaker 2: attacked by these orbs of light and he he sent
[23:17] Speaker 2: me videos i can probably send it to you i
[23:21] Speaker 2: would have to ask this guy if if i can
[23:23] Speaker 2: do it but you know literally he filmed orbs of
[23:28] Speaker 2: light with emanating interesting colors and And he was observing
[23:33] Speaker 2: them for a couple of days or weeks making videos and,
[23:36] Speaker 2: you know, they would appear in the distance and stuff
[23:39] Speaker 2: like that. And suddenly it looks like they, these orbs
[23:44] Speaker 2: became interested in him to start attacking him. So he
[23:47] Speaker 2: said like, he had like a couple of days, really
[23:49] Speaker 2: hardcore experiences with these orbs. And he came to do
[23:55] Speaker 2: a session with me and what came as an information
[24:00] Speaker 2: from the session was that he was already being abducted
[24:03] Speaker 2: in the past and he had some agreements that's why
[24:06] Speaker 2: they abducted him you know it's like i i think
[24:08] Speaker 2: that it's unlikely that anyone can be abducted if they
[24:13] Speaker 2: don't have some level of contract or agreement maybe from
[24:17] Speaker 2: previous incarnations so this is also not another thing it's
[24:21] Speaker 2: like people might be afraid that they might be abducted
[24:24] Speaker 2: by aliens but if you don't get permission or you
[24:26] Speaker 2: don't have any level of agreement, it's probably not going
[24:31] Speaker 2: to happen.
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[25:57] Speaker 1: the alien abduction phenomena is a more spiritual, astral, or
[26:02] Speaker 1: metaphysical experience rather than these beings coming from different planets
[26:07] Speaker 1: to experiment on us. It seems to be baked into
[26:11] Speaker 1: the experience here on this realm, whatever we're doing here.
[26:16] Speaker 1: This also correlates with a couple of shows I've done
[26:19] Speaker 1: recently about the possibility that Some of these beings are
[26:24] Speaker 1: using humans to create a hybrid species. I did a
[26:29] Speaker 1: whole show about alien sex and how some of these
[26:33] Speaker 1: beings are either using men's sperm or having intercourse with women.
[26:40] Speaker 1: Many different ways to achieve these hybrid beings. One of
[26:46] Speaker 1: the abductees relayed an experience where he was on a
[26:51] Speaker 1: craft and he saw This whole room of humans in
[26:56] Speaker 1: a hypnotized state having sex with each other and they
[26:59] Speaker 1: were hooked up to these strange wires and all kind
[27:02] Speaker 1: of things. This seems extremely invasive. It seems to go
[27:07] Speaker 1: against free will in so many different ways. But there
[27:11] Speaker 1: are so many people that report this with their quote-unquote
[27:14] Speaker 1: alien abduction experience.
[27:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can tell you that in my
[27:20] Speaker 2: community of people who do similar things, sessions as I do,
[27:25] Speaker 2: you know, remote viewing and disenergy clearing and removal. I
[27:32] Speaker 2: heard about people talking about that they had clients who
[27:38] Speaker 2: had been used for, you know, artificially inseminated women and
[27:46] Speaker 2: things like that to create hybrid species. I don't think
[27:50] Speaker 2: I had anyone myself yet. who was, I'm not sure,
[27:57] Speaker 2: but I don't think so. I probably remember. But what
[28:02] Speaker 2: it seems, and, you know, you heard similar stories, so
[28:05] Speaker 2: I'm also curious to hear what do you think are
[28:10] Speaker 2: the reasons behind it. But from what my guys were saying,
[28:14] Speaker 2: these guys that do similar work, they say that, you know,
[28:20] Speaker 2: I mean, it's always, there has to be agreement level.
[28:23] Speaker 2: like it's either through like ritual, anything, you know, like
[28:28] Speaker 2: can be, somewhere had to be some agreement, sometimes from
[28:31] Speaker 2: previous incarnations, sometimes from trickery, whatever, you know, prayer between
[28:39] Speaker 2: lifetime situations, but there is some contract somewhere. So that's
[28:44] Speaker 2: one thing. The second thing is, it seems like, you know,
[28:47] Speaker 2: a lot of these groups like reptilian types or mantis,
[28:53] Speaker 2: They are looking for ways to create hybrid species that
[28:57] Speaker 2: have some of the soul level DNA from humans. Maybe
[29:04] Speaker 2: to be able to access humans easier. So one thing
[29:11] Speaker 2: is like to be more compatible with the field that
[29:14] Speaker 2: human creates, because, you know, normally, like I mentioned in
[29:18] Speaker 2: the last interview, The auric field protects you from a
[29:23] Speaker 2: lot of these beings and we're kind of safe in
[29:26] Speaker 2: a way. That's why there's technologies to weaken the auric
[29:31] Speaker 2: field or do something with the energy. But one of
[29:37] Speaker 2: the theories that I heard from other guys was something
[29:40] Speaker 2: like this, that maybe they want to create a species
[29:43] Speaker 2: that's going to be more compatible. So to kind of
[29:47] Speaker 2: have temporary possession or something like that, it's going to
[29:51] Speaker 2: be easier for that to access the human. Second option,
[29:57] Speaker 2: like we generate... Basically, the emotions, the sexual energy that
[30:03] Speaker 2: we generate as humans is very powerful for these beings
[30:06] Speaker 2: that are on higher densities. So they like this type
[30:11] Speaker 2: of stuff. They like sexual energy because sexual energy can
[30:15] Speaker 2: create life. I heard even that it can be used
[30:19] Speaker 2: as fuel for spaceships, for cities, for other things. It
[30:23] Speaker 2: seems like that's why, you know, like pornography, all these
[30:27] Speaker 2: things here. they allow for a lot of creation of
[30:32] Speaker 2: sexual energy being released. And this is being harvested. So
[30:37] Speaker 2: then they use it as a form of energy. And perhaps,
[30:41] Speaker 2: you know, maybe they want to tap into some of
[30:44] Speaker 2: that because it's very strong from humans. Maybe it's something
[30:49] Speaker 2: to do with loose emotions. You know, they want to
[30:52] Speaker 2: have a species that can maybe create some of these
[30:56] Speaker 2: emotional states or whatever. But from what I know, like
[31:01] Speaker 2: most of this stuff is failed experiments so far. Like
[31:05] Speaker 2: I heard about these sessions where people would see it
[31:08] Speaker 2: was used, you know, like woman was used, but the
[31:14] Speaker 2: child or whatever, the hybrid didn't survive. And also, you know,
[31:19] Speaker 2: I want to say one fix is we're talking about it.
[31:22] Speaker 2: I know there are women in spiritual community that believe
[31:26] Speaker 2: that they're hybrid this whole hybrid mother movement you know
[31:32] Speaker 2: uh you know you're familiar right with with this thing
[31:36] Speaker 2: that some of these contactees or whistleblowers wherever they are
[31:41] Speaker 2: aware that they have these children hybrid children and you
[31:46] Speaker 2: know they think it's it's maybe through our agreements or
[31:50] Speaker 2: whatever but actually I think it's manipulated heavily, you know,
[31:55] Speaker 2: so I think this is the same characteristic as abductions,
[32:01] Speaker 2: you know, it's, but they try to convince them that
[32:04] Speaker 2: this is positive, that they agreed that this is all good.
[32:08] Speaker 2: So they now promote it, you know, they, they say it's,
[32:12] Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're hybrid mothers. You are another hybrid mother, whatever. Let's,
[32:16] Speaker 2: let's have a team and let's keep spreading the message,
[32:19] Speaker 2: how this is amazing, whatever. And, You know, so they
[32:23] Speaker 2: might be naively influenced and manipulated without them knowing about it,
[32:29] Speaker 2: you know, because they think it's just like they accepted it.
[32:33] Speaker 2: But I think it's probably they had some agreements before
[32:36] Speaker 2: and this is how it's being presented to them. So
[32:39] Speaker 2: they accepted it and, you know, but it's a trickery.
[32:44] Speaker 1: To me, it would depend. on if this reality is
[32:48] Speaker 1: some kind of trap or prison experience, or if it's
[32:52] Speaker 1: an experience for us. If it's a trap, the things
[32:57] Speaker 1: you just discussed are a very big possibility. But if
[33:01] Speaker 1: this is an experience for us, possibly by us on
[33:05] Speaker 1: a different level, in order to keep us unaware and
[33:10] Speaker 1: in the game of life, this may be a method
[33:15] Speaker 1: they use, If a person, say, going down a bad track,
[33:19] Speaker 1: and I've heard this many times, and I've heard so
[33:21] Speaker 1: many positive experiences with non-human beings that never turned out
[33:25] Speaker 1: to be negative in any way. I think just as
[33:28] Speaker 1: many positive, maybe even more than I've heard negative, but
[33:33] Speaker 1: there are many people who are going down a bad
[33:35] Speaker 1: path in life, and they'll have a profound paranormal experience,
[33:39] Speaker 1: near-death experience, come into contact with something. The being will...
[33:45] Speaker 1: give them profound information, and they'll end up changing their
[33:49] Speaker 1: life for the better and changing their human experience. If
[33:53] Speaker 1: this is an experience for us, by us, if a
[33:57] Speaker 1: version of us created this for experience, maybe a light
[34:01] Speaker 1: body version because we can't experience physicality, what better way
[34:06] Speaker 1: to get yourself in line to appear as an extraterrestrial
[34:10] Speaker 1: being or a demon or some kind of non-human entity
[34:14] Speaker 1: than to impact your experience, to get you on a
[34:18] Speaker 1: different path. It really depends to me what this experience
[34:22] Speaker 1: is about. Is it a trap or is it a
[34:25] Speaker 1: learning experience?
[34:30] Speaker 2: You know, one thing that I want to add here,
[34:34] Speaker 2: you said that you heard a lot of these positive
[34:37] Speaker 2: stories and stories I've learned that many of these positive
[34:41] Speaker 2: sounding stories were initially sounding positive, but people were not
[34:47] Speaker 2: aware of these long-term consequences that were hidden. So, um, Well,
[34:53] Speaker 2: give us.
[34:53] Speaker 1: Some examples of that and some examples of the contracts
[34:56] Speaker 1: that you come across.
[34:59] Speaker 2: I mean, like, for example, I, you know, I mentioned
[35:02] Speaker 2: the talisman and amulets, right? So like, um, amulets generally.
[35:10] Speaker 2: it's something that's going to protect you, right? So it's like, whatever,
[35:14] Speaker 2: someone is trying to use some magic, some spells, some
[35:18] Speaker 2: intention to create something that's going to protect you or
[35:23] Speaker 2: talismans that's going to amplify your whatever desires or anything,
[35:28] Speaker 2: but it comes with a contract. So for example, I
[35:31] Speaker 2: met this one guy who's also into shamanism and he
[35:34] Speaker 2: told me how he was drawn to talisman or amulet
[35:42] Speaker 2: you know somewhere like he literally saw it and he
[35:44] Speaker 2: was like oh yeah something about it i want to
[35:46] Speaker 2: have it once he put it on himself um he
[35:52] Speaker 2: said he had a psychedelic experience at some point you
[35:56] Speaker 2: know later on where some spirit came to him and
[36:00] Speaker 2: told him like you know that this draw the spirit
[36:03] Speaker 2: whatever you know it's like it was all connected with
[36:07] Speaker 2: the I'm a letter talisman and stuff like that. And
[36:11] Speaker 2: he's the chosen and they're going to work with him
[36:13] Speaker 2: and all look very good shamanic, you know, initiation and blah, blah, blah.
[36:19] Speaker 2: And later on he had, he told me like, this
[36:24] Speaker 2: was already years after the whole thing. He said like,
[36:27] Speaker 2: he started having some health problems. I forgot what was
[36:31] Speaker 2: the disease, but it's like when you get, Lyme disease.
[36:37] Speaker 1: Oh, Lyme disease.
[36:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, it really, his life turned upside down
[36:43] Speaker 2: a little bit. And then he connected these things together.
[36:50] Speaker 2: Like it was a contract, it was a trickery. And
[36:53] Speaker 2: I can tell you, I had a very similar experience
[36:56] Speaker 2: that ended up in a very serious accident when I
[37:00] Speaker 2: was using some of this stuff myself. And this wasn't
[37:03] Speaker 2: the only time like that. I don't know. I can
[37:06] Speaker 2: tell you if you want, but sure. Yeah. So like
[37:13] Speaker 2: in 2016, I, you know, I was experimenting a little
[37:17] Speaker 2: bit with spells to attract a relationship. And, uh, I
[37:22] Speaker 2: think I've wrote something like that, you know, it was
[37:26] Speaker 2: one of these spells was like, um, that I got
[37:30] Speaker 2: from a woman that was like this, which whatever it
[37:33] Speaker 2: was super simple, like, but this one I just wrote
[37:39] Speaker 2: down a couple of things I wanted and within whatever
[37:42] Speaker 2: a couple of weeks I literally like you know started
[37:46] Speaker 2: dating a girl that was like exactly as I wanted
[37:50] Speaker 2: beautiful singer whatever and and we got together but things
[37:57] Speaker 2: were very strange like you know we were arguing a
[38:00] Speaker 2: lot she was amazing like I felt she's like literally
[38:04] Speaker 2: dream coming true And also what was interesting, she was
[38:08] Speaker 2: like this upcoming singer with, you know, big career in
[38:13] Speaker 2: front of her, uh, already doing concerts for like thousands
[38:17] Speaker 2: of people and things like that. And suddenly she had
[38:21] Speaker 2: this mystery illness where she lost her voice. Like she,
[38:25] Speaker 2: when she's tried to sing, she had cough, you know,
[38:30] Speaker 2: all the time. So she literally like her career collapse. Um,
[38:36] Speaker 2: and she was super depressed because of that and like
[38:39] Speaker 2: best doctors in the UK couldn't help. So that was
[38:44] Speaker 2: kind of like when I met her, she was like
[38:47] Speaker 2: already going through this kind of career destroyed in that moment.
[38:53] Speaker 2: And I felt like, oh, she's like so amazing. Everything
[38:56] Speaker 2: as I wanted, blah, blah, blah. But we're constantly arguing,
[39:00] Speaker 2: constantly some issues, things like that, which was very strange.
[39:04] Speaker 2: And somehow, you know, it lasted whatever, five months. And
[39:08] Speaker 2: then I remember I was with her in Budapest on
[39:12] Speaker 2: holidays and we were arguing and things like that. And
[39:15] Speaker 2: my dad, he was actually driving through Budapest and I
[39:20] Speaker 2: was living in the UK and he was going to Poland.
[39:23] Speaker 2: And he said like, if you want, you can come
[39:28] Speaker 2: with me to Poland, you know, for a short trip
[39:30] Speaker 2: because I'm around. So when I came to Poland, this
[39:35] Speaker 2: is 2016, my brother, I remember I arrived, it was
[39:40] Speaker 2: like September, this kind of funny date. 16916, something like that.
[39:49] Speaker 2: I think it was, you know, 969, because it was 2016,
[39:54] Speaker 2: September 16, if I remember correctly. It was full moon.
[40:01] Speaker 2: And my brother, who had very serious problems with drugs
[40:05] Speaker 2: and addiction at that time, he just got released from
[40:10] Speaker 2: a rehab, you know, too early. He ran away from
[40:14] Speaker 2: a rehab. So I bumped into him, you know, I didn't,
[40:18] Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, I was not living in Poland
[40:22] Speaker 2: at the time. So this was kind of old coincidence,
[40:25] Speaker 2: let's say. And he had drinking problem and we started arguing,
[40:30] Speaker 2: you know, it was like he wanted some money for drinking, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
[40:36] Speaker 2: And in the evening, like he started doing some stupid stuff,
[40:39] Speaker 2: like pretending he's going to jump from the balcony, you know.
[40:43] Speaker 2: And there was a ground ground floor. So maybe two
[40:47] Speaker 2: meters high, maybe a little bit more than two meters,
[40:50] Speaker 2: three meters, whatever. And I was like, so annoyed. I
[40:53] Speaker 2: said to him, you know what? Jump, you know, I
[40:57] Speaker 2: was like, because I thought he's not going to do it,
[41:00] Speaker 2: you know, and, and he jumped and he broke his spine. He,
[41:05] Speaker 2: he ended up falling on heels and it created an
[41:09] Speaker 2: impact on his spine and cracked crack the spine. And
[41:15] Speaker 2: it was kind of through me, right? Through me, because I,
[41:17] Speaker 2: I told him let's jump, you know? So fortunately, um,
[41:24] Speaker 2: he recovered pretty well. Like it wasn't that serious. He
[41:29] Speaker 2: recovered maybe 95, 97% of everything mobility. But, uh, I,
[41:38] Speaker 2: I started questioning and basically straight away, I got back
[41:41] Speaker 2: to the, to the uk after this incident and we
[41:45] Speaker 2: split up with this girl like exactly when i got
[41:49] Speaker 2: back straight away boom you know end of the story
[41:53] Speaker 2: but and i started questioning this and you know later
[41:56] Speaker 2: on i learned that my dad he had very strong
[42:00] Speaker 2: contracts he he did some serious rituals very dark rituals
[42:06] Speaker 2: that he told me about and i knew later now
[42:10] Speaker 2: now i know that he was also There was access
[42:13] Speaker 2: to him because of that. He had contracts. I don't
[42:19] Speaker 2: want to talk about what he did because this is
[42:23] Speaker 2: like he told me to keep it personal, private, but
[42:27] Speaker 2: it's a very dark ritual that he did.
[42:32] Speaker 1: Going back to some of the other things that may
[42:38] Speaker 1: cause these contracts, You mentioned in your talking points that
[42:44] Speaker 1: certain religious rituals may affect these contracts, baptism, confirmation, first communion.
[42:52] Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that.
[42:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did a little investigation into trying to
[42:59] Speaker 2: understand what's going on with these rituals. And for example,
[43:04] Speaker 2: you know, I know the Polish names. I don't remember
[43:08] Speaker 2: exactly English names. I made a list, actually. But for example,
[43:14] Speaker 2: you know, anointing of the sick, right? This is the
[43:18] Speaker 2: ritual that you do when someone is ill and is
[43:21] Speaker 2: about to pass away, right? You know, right? Sometimes they're
[43:26] Speaker 2: going to call the priest. The priest will do whatever,
[43:29] Speaker 2: like use some oil, special oil, put some whatever cross
[43:34] Speaker 2: sign uh so what when we did a remote viewing
[43:38] Speaker 2: session on this one what appeared was that it tries
[43:42] Speaker 2: to seal the soul with decaying body so first is
[43:48] Speaker 2: like you know the person is already suffering and dying
[43:53] Speaker 2: right so so it's kind of One thing was the
[43:58] Speaker 2: beings get access, permission to take the energy, like harvest
[44:02] Speaker 2: the energy. That's what came in the session. But the
[44:06] Speaker 2: second point was that somehow it's going to try to
[44:10] Speaker 2: block the soul from leaving the body after the body dies.
[44:15] Speaker 2: And it can last whatever, like weeks. And then the
[44:20] Speaker 2: soul is using a lot of its energy. So what
[44:26] Speaker 2: might happen is that it's going to end up in
[44:27] Speaker 2: a cemetery, like, you know, as this carnate spirit, very
[44:32] Speaker 2: weak one. And it's going to naturally, like when it's
[44:35] Speaker 2: super weak, it's going to try to take energy from
[44:38] Speaker 2: people or whatever. But it seems to be designed. So
[44:45] Speaker 2: the soul is basically weakened tremendously for this experience. It's
[44:49] Speaker 2: almost like the body is dead and is still hooked
[44:53] Speaker 2: to the body, you know, for weeks. And then once
[44:57] Speaker 2: the soil is weakened, it's easier to manipulate it further,
[45:01] Speaker 2: go through the recycling, or it's just going to stay
[45:06] Speaker 2: like that. So that's what came when we did a
[45:10] Speaker 2: remote viewing session on this one. When we checked, for example,
[45:17] Speaker 2: you know, even like, I don't know if you have
[45:22] Speaker 2: the Easter celebrations, let's say. In Poland, for example, Poland
[45:28] Speaker 2: is a Catholic country, so we have a special kind
[45:31] Speaker 2: of celebration.
[45:32] Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic, so I know all about the
[45:34] Speaker 1: Catholic rituals.
[45:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not sure if this is exactly done
[45:39] Speaker 2: in all the countries. Like in Poland, we have this Saturday,
[45:43] Speaker 2: Easter Saturday thing where you bring your food, like eggs
[45:47] Speaker 2: and other things, to the church. And the priest kind
[45:52] Speaker 2: of blesses the food. And then you go have a
[45:56] Speaker 2: breakfast or whatever, right? Yeah, yeah. So what came when
[46:01] Speaker 2: we did the remote viewing is that actually one thing
[46:06] Speaker 2: is like what often comes, I think I mentioned this
[46:09] Speaker 2: last time, is like the person can feel better when
[46:12] Speaker 2: they eat the food, right? So it's like this is
[46:15] Speaker 2: a trick. You know, the energy that is being harvested
[46:20] Speaker 2: when people pray is being used for these tricks right
[46:25] Speaker 2: so like someone is in the holy place they pray
[46:29] Speaker 2: they get a little bit of this amazing spiritual experience
[46:32] Speaker 2: that's the energy harvested from people sometimes it might be
[46:36] Speaker 2: the same thing with with this blessed food but apparently
[46:41] Speaker 2: um what it does is is it's does something with
[46:46] Speaker 2: like lowering energy of the person because it's before entering spring,
[46:52] Speaker 2: like the Easter, it happens exactly, you know, when you
[46:56] Speaker 2: have this period of like end of winter, beginning of spring.
[47:01] Speaker 2: So the body is slowly starting to adjust to a different,
[47:07] Speaker 2: you know, time of the year and energy levels and
[47:09] Speaker 2: things like that. And they try to lower it before,
[47:13] Speaker 2: you know, so this is what came in the session.
[47:17] Speaker 2: And every single one of these rituals, comes with some
[47:21] Speaker 2: level of trickery. So that's what we discovered. So, for example,
[47:29] Speaker 2: what's the other one? Communion? Confirmation. Confirmation is often done
[47:36] Speaker 2: when you're a teenager. And it's done by bishops, often
[47:41] Speaker 2: not by regular priests.
[47:44] Speaker 1: Right.
[47:45] Speaker 2: So they often do, again, like this cross on the
[47:49] Speaker 2: forehead and things like that. So that's when they try
[47:53] Speaker 2: to install the third eye seal. Some people claim that
[47:58] Speaker 2: even baptism can also install that. But what we learned,
[48:04] Speaker 2: we definitely saw this being done in confirmation. And the
[48:09] Speaker 2: third eye seal is basically like a seal on the
[48:13] Speaker 2: third eye. that makes it harder for the soul or
[48:20] Speaker 2: the person to connect with their higher selves and the source.
[48:26] Speaker 1: To be spiritually aware, essentially, right?
[48:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like diluting the sense of the third eye,
[48:31] Speaker 2: you know? So the information you receive is not clear
[48:36] Speaker 2: enough or something like that. So this is, for example,
[48:41] Speaker 2: what came.
[48:42] Speaker 1: Earlier, when we were talking about the hybridization possibilities, you
[48:46] Speaker 1: said that one of the purposes could be to make
[48:49] Speaker 1: a person more susceptible to possession by these beings. Do
[48:54] Speaker 1: you think there's other reasons for hybridization?
[49:01] Speaker 2: You know, we have some natural characteristics like The type
[49:14] Speaker 2: of energy that we generate, You know, when we live
[49:17] Speaker 2: in a physical, like we generate stronger energy, so fear
[49:21] Speaker 2: or sexual energy, whether you have orgasm or some of
[49:27] Speaker 2: these things, right? I know that I'm hearing these stories
[49:31] Speaker 2: from people doing sessions that they said they would see
[49:34] Speaker 2: a brothel and above the brothel, there will be UFOs
[49:39] Speaker 2: harvesting sexual energy, you know? So when, when, when you
[49:44] Speaker 2: have the whole pornography, I think it's exactly because they
[49:48] Speaker 2: want to harvest sexual energy. So, um, sexual energy creates life.
[49:55] Speaker 2: It's really powerful. And I heard that it can be
[49:59] Speaker 2: used for even to, um, as a source of energy
[50:05] Speaker 2: for cities, for machines, like literally for things like that
[50:09] Speaker 2: in these like etheric realms. So think about humans being
[50:15] Speaker 2: used in this way, not only for emotions, which, you know,
[50:20] Speaker 2: can be used as a form of kind of food sustenance,
[50:26] Speaker 2: but also sexual energy in specific ways or specific type
[50:30] Speaker 2: of sexual energy like BDSM and other ones where it's abuse,
[50:34] Speaker 2: you know, this is the type they like. So who knows?
[50:39] Speaker 2: Maybe these hybrids might be some slaves that are going
[50:43] Speaker 2: to generate them these emotions or energies. Maybe it's something else.
[50:48] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[50:49] Speaker 1: You also mentioned in the talking points that women may
[50:53] Speaker 1: be energetically impregnated. What does this mean? That their child
[50:58] Speaker 1: is going to be possessed by one of these entities?
[51:03] Speaker 2: No, it's like you have gestation going on on the
[51:08] Speaker 2: energetic level, but, um, and it could be something like,
[51:14] Speaker 2: you know, like they, they basically, um, just for a
[51:20] Speaker 2: period of gestation, then it can be taken to some
[51:24] Speaker 2: kind of a spaceship with some equipment or whatever in.
[51:28] Speaker 2: And I heard these stories and I heard also that
[51:32] Speaker 2: some women who came they couldn't get pregnant physically and
[51:37] Speaker 2: they would have a session done and you know, the
[51:41] Speaker 2: type of session I'm doing and, and they would literally
[51:44] Speaker 2: like turn out that this is what was going on.
[51:47] Speaker 2: They were having these like eggs, uh, you know, impregnated
[51:54] Speaker 2: in them. And that was affecting physical, uh, abilities to
[51:59] Speaker 2: get pregnant. So I heard these stories. I, I, I
[52:04] Speaker 2: didn't have my own experience yet with this, with a
[52:07] Speaker 2: client like that, but I know this is what happens.
[52:12] Speaker 2: So it looks like it might affect some physical things
[52:16] Speaker 2: as well.
[52:18] Speaker 1: Based on everything that you've learned from your work, do
[52:21] Speaker 1: you think that all spiritual entities, all spiritual beings, even
[52:26] Speaker 1: those considered extraterrestrials, are deceptive?
[52:31] Speaker 2: Of course not. I think... the universe is full of both,
[52:35] Speaker 2: you know, it's like positive, negative beings. I think this
[52:39] Speaker 2: planet is under influence of negatives for sure, you know,
[52:44] Speaker 2: it's like they took advantage of this planet and I
[52:48] Speaker 2: heard about other planets where exactly the same stories are
[52:53] Speaker 2: happening from other people, very similar characteristics. So, you know,
[53:00] Speaker 2: definitely there is this force here but it's all based
[53:04] Speaker 2: also on your free will and you know you have
[53:08] Speaker 2: the free will so so you you the more you
[53:11] Speaker 2: understand how powerful you are the more uh you will
[53:16] Speaker 2: not allow anything to interfere with you because even you
[53:20] Speaker 2: know like when we do the sessions like we remove
[53:22] Speaker 2: contracts but the person can remove contracts themselves or the
[53:26] Speaker 2: soul and you know you have full power to do
[53:31] Speaker 2: it no one can do anything to you without your
[53:34] Speaker 2: agreement at some level you know and things like that
[53:38] Speaker 2: so I definitely think there's a lot of positive entities
[53:44] Speaker 2: you know I think many of us have spirit guides
[53:47] Speaker 2: that maybe are like us from these higher densities us
[53:51] Speaker 2: from the future whatever that try to help us one
[53:55] Speaker 2: way or another but it's good to be cautious, vigilant,
[54:00] Speaker 2: because here there is a mess and, you know, there's
[54:04] Speaker 2: a lot of deceptive beings. So I would just be
[54:09] Speaker 2: careful with trying to contact any beings for like, you know,
[54:15] Speaker 2: if you want to get help, because you never know
[54:19] Speaker 2: what's going to, and these negative, they love to look
[54:22] Speaker 2: for opportunities like that. So, you know, my recommendation is
[54:27] Speaker 2: always to work with the source. So, you know, collective mind,
[54:32] Speaker 2: because this is you and you are everything and you
[54:35] Speaker 2: can get help. Once you focus your attention to the
[54:40] Speaker 2: source level or your own higher self or your own oversoul,
[54:44] Speaker 2: all these other options will come, you know, if they
[54:48] Speaker 2: source will decide, like, let's send him this Arcturian guy
[54:52] Speaker 2: to help him with something. probably going to happen you
[54:55] Speaker 2: know so it's like that's my kind of thinking about.
[54:59] Speaker 1: It yeah so you believe it's more along the gnostic
[55:05] Speaker 1: spiritual belief systems that our reality may have been hijacked
[55:11] Speaker 1: or infiltrated by some kind of parasitic spiritual beings or extraterrestrials.
[55:19] Speaker 2: Yeah i mean i definitely think that um there is
[55:23] Speaker 2: a strong you know, hijacking of this reality on different levels.
[55:30] Speaker 1: Have you ever done any remote viewing to find out
[55:33] Speaker 1: how long that occupation has been by these beings?
[55:41] Speaker 2: No. I know stories, bits and pieces from all sorts
[55:46] Speaker 2: of teachings and people and, you know, hard to really
[55:51] Speaker 2: know exactly what to believe because... But, yeah, I think
[55:57] Speaker 2: maybe we should try to do a little bit of
[56:00] Speaker 2: digging ourselves as well. Because, you know, you get so
[56:06] Speaker 2: many of these stories. You hear about Ashaya Nadine. I
[56:10] Speaker 2: don't know what you think about her.
[56:13] Speaker 1: Mixed feelings, mixed feelings.
[56:15] Speaker 2: Mixed feelings, same here.
[56:18] Speaker 1: A lot of the New Age information has... Lots of truth,
[56:23] Speaker 1: it seems, but it's also mixed in with a lot
[56:26] Speaker 1: of nonsense. What's behind a lot of the New Age
[56:30] Speaker 1: movement right now is an attempt to get people spiritually
[56:35] Speaker 1: derailed in some way and confused.
[56:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a very important topic. You know,
[56:43] Speaker 2: a lot of these false prophets, let's say deceptive teachers,
[56:50] Speaker 2: they're very clever in sources, you know, like books, like channelings.
[56:55] Speaker 2: They will give you maybe 80, 90% of really valuable information,
[57:01] Speaker 2: cutting edge, you know, unique information. And then once you
[57:07] Speaker 2: pay attention, once you are hooked, once you believe them,
[57:11] Speaker 2: they start diverting you towards some false narratives, you know,
[57:16] Speaker 2: that I see all the time. even with things like
[57:19] Speaker 2: the law of one teachings, I started strongly questioning this work.
[57:24] Speaker 2: And in the past, I was, I thought this is
[57:27] Speaker 2: like one of the best metaphysical sources. So we did
[57:33] Speaker 2: a lot of remote viewing. I cannot say this is
[57:38] Speaker 2: accurate because like, you know, I remember like my, my
[57:42] Speaker 2: cousin who was doing checks on the raw, like he
[57:45] Speaker 2: saw some, I think it was like a half reptilian,
[57:50] Speaker 2: half bird, like stamping on humans, you know, like walking
[57:55] Speaker 2: on humans or something like this is how it appeared.
[57:58] Speaker 1: Wow.
[57:59] Speaker 2: But, you know, I started questioning it a little bit because,
[58:03] Speaker 2: you know, the love one, right. It's very popular. A
[58:06] Speaker 2: lot of people think it's amazing work, but one, one,
[58:11] Speaker 2: for example, red flag for me is like, why they
[58:14] Speaker 2: talk about seven densities and, They talk about this evolution
[58:18] Speaker 2: to the higher self of like, you're going to be
[58:20] Speaker 2: a good boy. You're going to become the higher self again, blah, blah, blah.
[58:25] Speaker 2: And these highly advanced beings, they don't know that we
[58:29] Speaker 2: have way more densities than seven. You know, the seven
[58:33] Speaker 2: density level is the low level. This is like where
[58:38] Speaker 2: the matrix, whatever, the arconic stuff is going on. The
[58:42] Speaker 2: higher levels be above higher self level. This is like
[58:48] Speaker 2: the source levels, you know, the real archangels, all the,
[58:53] Speaker 2: you don't have division into male, female, things like that.
[58:57] Speaker 2: This is more unity levels. So I know this stuff.
[59:00] Speaker 2: Many people know this stuff. Like I had my own experiences.
[59:03] Speaker 2: I saw some of these levels as well. And I'm
[59:06] Speaker 2: surprised that these highly advanced beings wouldn't know about it.
[59:10] Speaker 2: like it's it's one of these things where i think
[59:13] Speaker 2: like it sounds more like they try to give you
[59:16] Speaker 2: some idea similar to what you see in reincarnation traps
[59:21] Speaker 2: where uh you know keep repaying karma polarize yourself in
[59:25] Speaker 2: a positive way so you can become this advanced being
[59:29] Speaker 2: and Suffering is a part of the deal here and
[59:32] Speaker 2: all this stuff. You know, there are some other red flags,
[59:35] Speaker 2: but like, I'm just questioning everything now.
[59:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, man. So if a person feels
[59:44] Speaker 1: that they may be afflicted by some entity or attachment
[59:48] Speaker 1: or contract, you are available to help them with this?
[59:53] Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the best just to. reach out to
[59:57] Speaker 2: me from my website, truefury.com or find me on social media.
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: And I have information on my website as well about
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: how it works and what's going on. So yeah.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: Right on. Anything that we didn't cover that you'd like
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: to close out on? Any final thoughts?
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my message is for people to not
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: look outside so much because We all look for these
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: amazing teachers, amazing practices, amazing rituals, whatever. And I've been
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: really doing a lot of work over the last over
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: 20 years. I did a lot of practice myself, not
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: just education. And now my thinking about it is very
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: different to what it was like. And I see a
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: lot of trickery in some of the most popular things
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: that people do like Reiki, like Akashic records readings, all
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: sorts of things like that. Honestly, like you don't really need,
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: if you see a filter, like let's say Reiki is
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: a filter, right? Because you have to go through initiation
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: and use some symbols, but you have ability to channel
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: universal energy without initiations and without symbols. So if you
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: see a filter like that, question this because same with
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: akashic readings akashic records readings you know people say that
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: they use some special prayer to access akashic records where
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: they have these guards that decide what information is going
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: to go to which person we checked what's going on
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: there it was lucifer on top of that you know
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: it's all bullshit it's basically trying to divert the information
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: to influence the person in specific ways. So if you
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: see some sort of filters that it has to go
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: through something where you have access to everything yourself, you know,
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: you're a source, you don't need any filters. You don't
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: need to look externally. You don't need these rituals with whatever,
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: like I would watch out for these types of things
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: because in reality you have the power. You can do
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: anything you want. And you have access to anything you need. So,
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: you know, that's the kind of final message, I guess.
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, right on. Very interesting information, Mike. Thank you so much.
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: We'll definitely be doing this again. And until next time, everyone,
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: have an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow.
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: Thank you. See you all then. Thanks, Chris.
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