# Julie Adreani | Physical Mediumship, Red Light Séances, Ectoplasm & Apport Manifestation

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 11 Aug 2026, 1 h 03 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hello friends.
[0:03] Speaker 2: I hope everyone is having an amazing.
[0:05] Speaker 1: Week so far.
[0:06] Speaker 2: If you haven't noticed, I have not been featuring many
[0:10] Speaker 2: psychics or channelers recently, mainly because it's usually impossible to
[0:16] Speaker 2: quantify or prove the experiences. But every once in a
[0:20] Speaker 2: while I dive back into these psychic realms, and I
[0:24] Speaker 2: really enjoyed this discussion with Julie. I do believe she
[0:28] Speaker 2: has genuine abilities and experiences. She even has some photographic
[0:33] Speaker 2: evidence on her website, which also doesn't mean much in
[0:37] Speaker 2: this day and age, but still pretty compelling information. I
[0:41] Speaker 2: am still.
[0:42] Speaker 1: Always weary of any.
[0:44] Speaker 2: Kind of spirit communication or channeling, mainly because of the
[0:50] Speaker 2: hundreds of guest testimonials about negative experiences and tricksters. To
[0:56] Speaker 2: be fair, there are just as many or more positive
[0:59] Speaker 2: experience that I've heard about, But as always, I leave
[1:04] Speaker 2: it to you, the audience, to decide. Enjoy this episode.
[1:09] Speaker 2: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
[1:12] Speaker 2: and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
[1:15] Speaker 2: that people are going to have to talk about how
[1:18] Speaker 2: weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
[1:22] Speaker 2: your host, Chris Matthew. Today, my guest is Julie Adriani.
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[2:04] Speaker 2: Julie Adriani. She is a practicing mental and physical medium
[2:09] Speaker 2: and author of Messages from the Beyond. Julie, Welcome, How
[2:13] Speaker 2: you doing.
[2:14] Speaker 3: I am fabulous and I'm so happy to be here.
[2:18] Speaker 1: Well, we're happy to have you. Today.
[2:20] Speaker 2: We're gonna learn about physical mediumship, which is often known
[2:25] Speaker 2: as the rarest and most mysterious form of spirit communication,
[2:29] Speaker 2: and it often provides physical evidence of communication and interaction
[2:35] Speaker 2: with what is known as the other side. Really looking
[2:38] Speaker 2: forward to learning all about this. This is your first
[2:41] Speaker 2: time on. Tell us a little bit more about yourself
[2:44] Speaker 2: and let the audience know how they can find more.
[2:47] Speaker 3: Okay, well, I first started seeing spirit and to tease,
[2:51] Speaker 3: when I was about three to four years old. They
[2:54] Speaker 3: look solid to me. They weren't transparent, they just look
[2:57] Speaker 3: like people. And I later learned that these were especially
[3:03] Speaker 3: the first one I saw was one of my main guides,
[3:06] Speaker 3: because later on I met spirit artist mediums that could
[3:12] Speaker 3: look at me and see who my guides were, and
[3:16] Speaker 3: it was really great to see that. They captured my
[3:19] Speaker 3: very first entity that I saw my guide at.
[3:24] Speaker 1: And what age was this?
[3:25] Speaker 2: Four?
[3:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, three to four? Okay, yeah, it was during that
[3:29] Speaker 3: time and I shared a room with my sisters and
[3:33] Speaker 3: they could not see him like I saw him. He
[3:37] Speaker 3: was always at my door. And the funny thing was
[3:40] Speaker 3: I always saw his profile, so I never saw him
[3:44] Speaker 3: like straight on, but I knew he was there. I
[3:47] Speaker 3: saw his profile, I saw his hat. He always had
[3:49] Speaker 3: the same hat on.
[3:50] Speaker 2: So how did everything progress? How did you start to
[3:55] Speaker 2: become more aware of what it is that you were
[3:59] Speaker 2: interacting with and how did you start applying everything to
[4:03] Speaker 2: some of the work you're doing.
[4:06] Speaker 3: Well? So I was afraid for quite a few years.
[4:09] Speaker 3: I even slept in the bed with my mom after that.
[4:13] Speaker 3: So when I was eight years old, I was playing
[4:19] Speaker 3: a game with my sister, that Miss Mary Mac game
[4:23] Speaker 3: that you play with your hands, and from the ceiling
[4:28] Speaker 3: came a white handkerchief down. It was very dainty. It
[4:32] Speaker 3: was one of those that was embroidered and they had
[4:34] Speaker 3: crochet lace all around it.
[4:36] Speaker 1: It was a physical handkerchief.
[4:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, a physical handkerchief. And what had happened a little
[4:43] Speaker 3: while before that was I was playing with my neighbor
[4:46] Speaker 3: friends and we had to come in. She had to
[4:48] Speaker 3: go in because her grandparents had come to visit her.
[4:51] Speaker 3: And I was feeling really bad because I never got
[4:54] Speaker 3: to meet my grandparents. They were all deceased, and so
[4:58] Speaker 3: I felt like, oh, I wish I had a grandma
[5:01] Speaker 3: to come over and visit me. And right after that
[5:04] Speaker 3: is when I received that. I want to call it
[5:07] Speaker 3: an apport. So that was my very first apport, which
[5:10] Speaker 3: is a gift from the other side, something physical. But
[5:16] Speaker 3: between the four an eight year old period, I had
[5:20] Speaker 3: a lot of light phenomena, a lot of electrical phenomena.
[5:25] Speaker 3: So my sisters would play a game they would pull
[5:28] Speaker 3: me under the lights in the city. You know, we'd
[5:30] Speaker 3: play off front and whenever I would get out under
[5:34] Speaker 3: one of the street lights, they would go off, and
[5:38] Speaker 3: then when they pull me away, it would come back on.
[5:41] Speaker 3: So I think it had to do with my electromagnetic energy.
[5:48] Speaker 3: Maybe I had more telekinetic energy than others. I do remember. Also,
[5:54] Speaker 3: I got my first Barbie watch when I was five,
[5:56] Speaker 3: and it was just a crystal watch, you know, like
[5:59] Speaker 3: a TIMEX, and it stopped within the first twenty four hours.
[6:04] Speaker 3: And my mom, you know, they thought, oh, you got
[6:07] Speaker 3: your arm wet. We told you not to do that.
[6:09] Speaker 3: They thought I broke it, but I never did get
[6:13] Speaker 3: it in water, and they went we got another one,
[6:15] Speaker 3: and the same thing happened again. It stopped on me.
[6:19] Speaker 3: And then later in life I learned from one of
[6:22] Speaker 3: the doctors that I knew that that's a thing with
[6:25] Speaker 3: some people. They're not able to wear crystal watches. Interesting,
[6:31] Speaker 3: I didn't know that for a long time.
[6:34] Speaker 2: So I have to ask to me it's one of
[6:36] Speaker 2: the most important questions related to mediumship channeling, communication with
[6:43] Speaker 2: the other side, spirits or even non human entities. How
[6:46] Speaker 2: were you able to discern the intention of these beings
[6:51] Speaker 2: and what you're really speaking with. I know there's a
[6:55] Speaker 2: reality of tricksters, entities that take advantage of humans that
[7:01] Speaker 2: have the ability to communicate more openly, and may manipulate
[7:06] Speaker 2: them in some way. I've heard of many cases of this.
[7:08] Speaker 2: So how were you able to discern what you were
[7:11] Speaker 2: speaking with?
[7:13] Speaker 3: Well, I was always going to church. I was always
[7:18] Speaker 3: fascinated with church and knew that there was more and
[7:22] Speaker 3: as I got older, I actually had quite a few
[7:25] Speaker 3: spiritual experiences in the church with seeing some of the
[7:30] Speaker 3: beings up in the rafters. So I always prayed. I
[7:37] Speaker 3: still pray and say affirmations and do prayer work before
[7:41] Speaker 3: I do any kind of work, even a regular mediumship reading.
[7:46] Speaker 3: So I'm very connected to with the angelic realm, and
[7:50] Speaker 3: I feel the difference in the vibration and I always ask,
[7:55] Speaker 3: and you can't. Once you are out there and you're working,
[8:00] Speaker 3: you will feel the different vibrations. Even going in someone
[8:04] Speaker 3: else's home, if there are certain entities or spirits, you
[8:11] Speaker 3: could feel them and you could feel the difference. When
[8:14] Speaker 3: it's something a little heavier, I might feel like oppressed
[8:20] Speaker 3: on my chest, you know that feeling when like something
[8:23] Speaker 3: sitting on your chest, So that's not right. That to me,
[8:26] Speaker 3: it's a different feeling than the vibration of the higher beings.
[8:32] Speaker 2: Have you ever come across anything that you would consider
[8:36] Speaker 2: to be malevolent or at the least not have humanity's
[8:40] Speaker 2: best interest in mind?
[8:44] Speaker 3: I thought so. There were a few times as a
[8:48] Speaker 3: young person, there was an apartment in the city that
[8:51] Speaker 3: my sister and her husband had moved into. He was
[8:54] Speaker 3: a Chicago police officer. They were expecting their third child,
[8:59] Speaker 3: and they moved in this place and they moved out
[9:02] Speaker 3: within two months because when they had their nursery room
[9:06] Speaker 3: set up, and when they would leave and come back,
[9:10] Speaker 3: everything would be pushed into the middle of the room. Now,
[9:15] Speaker 3: I don't know if that was malevolent or a child
[9:19] Speaker 3: but I remember when I would go there, you know,
[9:22] Speaker 3: it was I couldn't stay there. I didn't want to
[9:25] Speaker 3: be there. So I always go by how they make
[9:30] Speaker 3: me feel. I'm very in tune with, you know, with
[9:34] Speaker 3: the vibratory elements in the room.
[9:39] Speaker 2: Would you say that an individual person's state of mind,
[9:44] Speaker 2: state of emotions, level of fear will also dictate if
[9:50] Speaker 2: a negative entity is more attracted to that person because
[9:55] Speaker 2: of that energy they're putting out. Would you say that's
[9:57] Speaker 2: the case.
[9:58] Speaker 3: Yes, I believe so, because negative energies will feed off
[10:04] Speaker 3: of they need that energy to keep going, you know,
[10:08] Speaker 3: like maybe they were a bad alcoholic in their lifetime
[10:13] Speaker 3: or something, so they're going to feed off places like that.
[10:16] Speaker 3: Are people who are there or you know fear.
[10:20] Speaker 2: Would you say that there is an ecosystem of intelligences,
[10:25] Speaker 2: not just human spirits, but a wide range of non
[10:30] Speaker 2: human entities just beyond our perception that have the ability
[10:35] Speaker 2: to interact with us.
[10:37] Speaker 3: I do believe that. I believe there are nature spirits.
[10:42] Speaker 3: There are you know, elementals. I feel like each element
[10:48] Speaker 3: of the earth even has its own ecosystem, as you
[10:53] Speaker 3: say of helpers. So yes, there are many, and I
[11:00] Speaker 3: feel like they're you know, you can and you can
[11:03] Speaker 3: connect with them. I often a few times in my life,
[11:08] Speaker 3: not often, I'd say three that I can remember right now,
[11:11] Speaker 3: have had fairy circles appear in my yard or around
[11:15] Speaker 3: the trees. Uh, And I recognized that and the beautiful
[11:20] Speaker 3: vibration of it.
[11:22] Speaker 2: Now, I've heard fairy circles described differently from different people.
[11:26] Speaker 2: Is this what you'd consider a ring of mushrooms that
[11:29] Speaker 2: appears in the yard or something else.
[11:32] Speaker 3: Now for me, it was a ring of mushrooms.
[11:34] Speaker 2: Let's get to some of your other experiences. You had
[11:37] Speaker 2: a near death experience, is that right?
[11:40] Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, could you tell us about that?
[11:43] Speaker 3: Yes, it was. I was having a cesarean section for
[11:49] Speaker 3: the third time with my third child, and this whole
[11:57] Speaker 3: pregnancy I just had become like and more hyper sensitive,
[12:03] Speaker 3: and so anyway, I had had two previous ones. They
[12:07] Speaker 3: had my records, They gave me the medicine that they
[12:11] Speaker 3: would put into the epidural, and all of a sudden,
[12:16] Speaker 3: I felt just like everything draining out of me, just
[12:21] Speaker 3: like a big warm like wish, and like I was fading,
[12:28] Speaker 3: and I saw myself in a tunnel, but I didn't
[12:36] Speaker 3: get to go very far. I didn't walk far down
[12:40] Speaker 3: the tunnel. And of course I was very confused and
[12:44] Speaker 3: fighting very hard because you know, I'm having a baby,
[12:47] Speaker 3: and I have to be here from my baby. So
[12:48] Speaker 3: it was a very strong instinct to fight, and so
[12:54] Speaker 3: I looked around. I saw the light, I saw this tunnel,
[12:59] Speaker 3: and then in just like a bleep, I heard all
[13:03] Speaker 3: the beeps from the monitors going off. And then when
[13:07] Speaker 3: I opened my eyes, I saw everybody working on me,
[13:10] Speaker 3: people all over squeezing IV bags and you know, getting
[13:14] Speaker 3: me back. So my blood pressure bottomed out due to
[13:17] Speaker 3: the anesthesia. And after that experience, I was so at
[13:27] Speaker 3: my whole metabolism changed. I became hyper sensitive to like
[13:33] Speaker 3: almost everything, all of a sudden. I was allergic to eggs, fish, nuts, medicines.
[13:41] Speaker 3: I kept having anaphylaxic reactions to foods that I had
[13:45] Speaker 3: eaten all my life. So I did speak to other people.
[13:53] Speaker 3: I was on Ians in Chicago, and they say that
[13:56] Speaker 3: that's very common to be hyper sensitive. I mean even
[14:00] Speaker 3: to light, to where I couldn't bear to look at
[14:02] Speaker 3: the bright sun anymore. And I used to always tan
[14:05] Speaker 3: and lay in the sun. But I became so hyper
[14:07] Speaker 3: sensitive to all these things, and I believe it was
[14:10] Speaker 3: due to that process that happened to me.
[14:16] Speaker 2: Interesting, how did that progress? Did that continue? Did you
[14:20] Speaker 2: find out any essential information about why that was happening.
[14:25] Speaker 3: Well, apparently it happens to a lot of people when
[14:28] Speaker 3: their sensitivities are totally opened up. And I became more
[14:34] Speaker 3: aware than I ever was, because for a while, between
[14:38] Speaker 3: that time of being a preteen and getting married, I
[14:43] Speaker 3: had a lot of experiences, But that time in your life,
[14:47] Speaker 3: there's a lot of things going on hormonally for women,
[14:50] Speaker 3: you know, So the mediumship was kind of on the
[14:54] Speaker 3: back burner because I knew it scared people, and I
[14:57] Speaker 3: didn't want to be weird, because I no teenager want
[15:00] Speaker 3: it's weird. It wasn't popular back then, and so I
[15:08] Speaker 3: just feel like once I was able to tap in
[15:13] Speaker 3: and tune in that my abilities really increased.
[15:17] Speaker 2: How did you get started with the mediumship work? Were
[15:21] Speaker 2: there any particular catalysts that brought you to actually start
[15:26] Speaker 2: working with others?
[15:29] Speaker 3: Yes? Actually, well I had been working with others under
[15:34] Speaker 3: the table, you know, in the closet, like with close friends.
[15:39] Speaker 3: But my twenty my middle son, the same son that
[15:44] Speaker 3: I had this experience with, he actually had a near
[15:49] Speaker 3: death experience. He was pronounced dead from a motorcycle accident
[15:53] Speaker 3: where he literally lost his leg at the scene. So
[16:00] Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have to tell you only have
[16:01] Speaker 3: so many leaders of blood in your body. So thank
[16:05] Speaker 3: God that there were a few people that had been
[16:08] Speaker 3: in the military and they were able to take off
[16:10] Speaker 3: their clothes and you know, try to do a tourniquit
[16:12] Speaker 3: before they could get into the hospital. But he still
[16:15] Speaker 3: was pronounced as ada. And so when I saw him
[16:24] Speaker 3: between surgeries, I mean he had several surgeries because he
[16:27] Speaker 3: had so many internal injuries too, not even besides his leg.
[16:33] Speaker 3: You know, you kind of I just made a promise.
[16:36] Speaker 3: You know, as a mother, you want, you're begging, you know,
[16:39] Speaker 3: take me, don't take my younger son. But I promised
[16:44] Speaker 3: to do the work. I said, you know, I know
[16:48] Speaker 3: it's time. I will do anything God asked of me
[16:53] Speaker 3: if you let my son live. And he's now married
[16:57] Speaker 3: to the same girl that he had, you know, she
[17:01] Speaker 3: was his girlfriend then, and they have five beautiful children,
[17:05] Speaker 3: and he works every day on his prosthetic leg, which
[17:08] Speaker 3: they call him like a superbionic leg. But that was
[17:13] Speaker 3: the catalyst for me.
[17:15] Speaker 2: Eventually you started doing seances. Tell us about how you
[17:19] Speaker 2: got started with that, and a bit more about what
[17:23] Speaker 2: is entailed with these seances.
[17:27] Speaker 3: Okay, So first off, I thought, before I go out
[17:32] Speaker 3: in public, I need to get myself developed professionally. I mean,
[17:36] Speaker 3: I know what I learned from my spirit team, but
[17:39] Speaker 3: I thought, I need to polish it up, because you
[17:42] Speaker 3: can do damage to people if you don't know how
[17:44] Speaker 3: to talk to them correctly and give messages correctly. So
[17:49] Speaker 3: I did do some studying with James Van Prague and
[17:53] Speaker 3: got myself, you know, kind of tuned in for the
[17:56] Speaker 3: mental ship medium yep. And I had people constantly asking me,
[18:03] Speaker 3: come on, let's do trance join our transgroup, join it,
[18:07] Speaker 3: and I was always apprehensive. I said, you know, let
[18:12] Speaker 3: me get comfortable with the mental mediumship first. So I
[18:16] Speaker 3: drugged my feet for quite a while, and finally two
[18:20] Speaker 3: years later I met a group and it was online,
[18:25] Speaker 3: so I thought, okay, I'm not going to be in
[18:28] Speaker 3: the same room with them. I can be in my
[18:31] Speaker 3: own space. So I felt comfortable enough to start in
[18:34] Speaker 3: this transgroup.
[18:35] Speaker 2: Why were you apprehensive to begin with? What exactly was
[18:39] Speaker 2: holding you back?
[18:41] Speaker 3: I think I felt that it was going to be
[18:43] Speaker 3: life changing, which it was. I knew something was going
[18:48] Speaker 3: to be different with no going back. That was kind
[18:53] Speaker 3: of the feeling. It's not that I was afraid, but
[18:56] Speaker 3: I knew that it was going to change up everything. Okay,
[19:00] Speaker 3: So the very first time I sat with this trans group,
[19:05] Speaker 3: I thought, nothing happened. Everybody like had a turn, there
[19:09] Speaker 3: was someone leading it.
[19:11] Speaker 1: Can you tell us about what this is a trans group?
[19:14] Speaker 1: What were they doing okay.
[19:17] Speaker 3: So they met on Zoom and they were there were
[19:22] Speaker 3: a few people there that were very fluent trans speakers
[19:26] Speaker 3: that from England that had been doing trance. So they
[19:29] Speaker 3: went into deep meditation and allowed their guides to come
[19:34] Speaker 3: through and give.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Oh so channeling essentially, yes.
[19:38] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, channeling trans channeling. So there's a few there's
[19:42] Speaker 3: different levels of trance and it could be from inspired
[19:47] Speaker 3: speaking while you're conscious or conscious you know, channeling. But
[19:52] Speaker 3: these people were going deep into a deeper trance and
[19:57] Speaker 3: giving out messages. Well I thought nothing happened because I
[20:02] Speaker 3: didn't speak, But afterwards the lady said, do you know
[20:07] Speaker 3: what happened? And I said, no, nothing right, And I
[20:12] Speaker 3: wasn't able to speak, but guides came through me. They
[20:17] Speaker 3: could see them standing behind me, and then my face changed,
[20:23] Speaker 3: like they could literally see atomic changes taking place, and
[20:29] Speaker 3: I look like a different person. And there were quite
[20:33] Speaker 3: a few different faces, which you know that I do
[20:38] Speaker 3: a lot of teaching about that. I have power points
[20:42] Speaker 3: because it's fascinating to see it with your own eyes,
[20:46] Speaker 3: to see it real time as they're forming their ectoplasmic
[20:50] Speaker 3: mask over my face. And so that went on for
[20:56] Speaker 3: a couple of months, I think about six or seven
[20:59] Speaker 3: months I was that group, and during this time there
[21:03] Speaker 3: were lots of different faces coming over. I never was
[21:06] Speaker 3: able to trances speak in that group. It just wasn't
[21:11] Speaker 3: you know, can't make it that channel.
[21:14] Speaker 1: Were you ever able to remember what came through?
[21:19] Speaker 3: There were a few times and one time, remember I
[21:23] Speaker 3: said the allergies I developed, Well, I've always been allergic
[21:27] Speaker 3: to cats. But there was a time that I was
[21:33] Speaker 3: woken up from trance or you know, like disturbed because
[21:39] Speaker 3: I felt a lion in the room and I could
[21:43] Speaker 3: literally hear, you know, like the deep, deep purr of
[21:46] Speaker 3: a lion. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, my
[21:49] Speaker 3: eyes are word and my nose is running, my face
[21:51] Speaker 3: is red. So that was an incredible experience because I
[21:56] Speaker 3: feel like an animal came through, an animal spirit guide
[22:01] Speaker 3: or something, and I had an allergic reaction to it
[22:05] Speaker 3: interesting while while sitting for trans and it brought me
[22:09] Speaker 3: out of trance. And I actually have a very old
[22:15] Speaker 3: photo of that time. You could see the female lion
[22:18] Speaker 3: very faintly in the picture. But that's one time I
[22:22] Speaker 3: remember that I was aware because it brought me out
[22:25] Speaker 3: of trance. Most of the time, I just unless they
[22:32] Speaker 3: accidentally touched me on it. You know, sometimes I will
[22:37] Speaker 3: feel their touch. Otherwise I'm not really aware.
[22:41] Speaker 2: There's many that would say just by opening yourself up
[22:46] Speaker 2: to these kinds of experiences, it would invite different kinds
[22:52] Speaker 2: of intelligences, and not just ones that you're looking for
[22:58] Speaker 2: assistance or information or for benevolent reasons. That there are
[23:02] Speaker 2: advantageous spirits that can come through just because there's an opening.
[23:09] Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
[23:11] Speaker 3: Yes? And no. They might be out there, but I
[23:14] Speaker 3: feel like your level of consciousness your level of protection.
[23:19] Speaker 3: So everybody is at a certain level of consciousness, and
[23:22] Speaker 3: I believe that if you are very high vibrational, the
[23:25] Speaker 3: lower vibrations are not going to be able to come up.
[23:29] Speaker 3: You can go down to different levels, but they cannot
[23:33] Speaker 3: come up above their level.
[23:35] Speaker 2: Tell us about red light seances. Why is red light
[23:39] Speaker 2: used well?
[23:42] Speaker 3: In different lights? There's you know, rods and all kinds
[23:45] Speaker 3: of I don't know all the terms, but there's less.
[23:51] Speaker 3: The white light is what dissipates ectoplasm. It like almost
[23:56] Speaker 3: burns it off. And I have a really good photograph
[24:02] Speaker 3: or set of photographs showing that because in one of
[24:06] Speaker 3: my circles there was a materialized being and if even
[24:11] Speaker 3: if the red light is too light, it won't happen.
[24:16] Speaker 3: It has to be just enough for people to see it,
[24:20] Speaker 3: but not too bright to burn off the ectoplasm. It's
[24:24] Speaker 3: it's light sensitive material.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Tell us more about ectoplasm, how it manifests, and maybe
[24:31] Speaker 2: some experiences that you've had with it.
[24:36] Speaker 3: It comes from the medium's body, but also spirit is
[24:41] Speaker 3: able to work with it, so it's produced in your
[24:46] Speaker 3: nervous system. So and it's actually produced through even your
[24:53] Speaker 3: they use your whole by you use your endocrine system.
[24:58] Speaker 3: That's very important, and it comes up through your nervous system,
[25:04] Speaker 3: and the spirit realm is able to help manipulate that
[25:09] Speaker 3: and use that to build or build materializations or build
[25:17] Speaker 3: these masks over your face. So I prefer working in
[25:24] Speaker 3: red light because yes, more will happen if you work
[25:29] Speaker 3: in the dark. There's a lot of physical mediums that
[25:34] Speaker 3: you swear you have to work in the dark, and
[25:37] Speaker 3: I agree, more phenomena will happen because it's part of nature,
[25:43] Speaker 3: like creation is created in the dark in a wound
[25:46] Speaker 3: without light, there's so many things. Plants grow underground and
[25:51] Speaker 3: start getting their roots and building in the dark. Undergrounds.
[25:56] Speaker 3: There's something about the dark that helps materialization grow up,
[26:03] Speaker 3: but it can be done in the light. It's a
[26:06] Speaker 3: slower pace. There might not be as much dramatic phenomena.
[26:14] Speaker 3: But to me, I really am all about teaching and
[26:18] Speaker 3: showing people because I mean, there's a lot of information
[26:22] Speaker 3: nowadays about how much we how little we can see
[26:26] Speaker 3: with our physical eyes. Right, less than one percent of
[26:30] Speaker 3: all the matter that's out there because the curvature of
[26:33] Speaker 3: our eyes. So imagine the other ninety nine percent that's
[26:38] Speaker 3: out there that we just are not able to see.
[26:42] Speaker 3: So I know that there are some new red light
[26:44] Speaker 3: glasses they're coming out with it. It's going to be
[26:47] Speaker 3: able to show people that they're just talking about it now,
[26:51] Speaker 3: So there is something about the red light. And even
[26:56] Speaker 3: though you know the phenomena might be slower, I think
[26:58] Speaker 3: it's important for people to see it actually happening with
[27:02] Speaker 3: their own eyes. And then there would be sometimes materializations
[27:08] Speaker 3: walking this room here, people getting touched and some people
[27:14] Speaker 3: and sorry, and it's objective clairvoyance. Everybody can see it
[27:20] Speaker 3: with their physical eyes. It's not something like mental mediumship
[27:24] Speaker 3: where you're going to see it subjectively.
[27:26] Speaker 2: So everyone would see the same thing.
[27:29] Speaker 3: If they're looking at it. Yes, yes, okay, that's why
[27:33] Speaker 3: in our circle, like I'll say, if I don't say it,
[27:37] Speaker 3: my husband says it, and our circle leader. If you
[27:40] Speaker 3: see something, say something, because somebody else might be seeing
[27:45] Speaker 3: some twinkle spirit lights up over in this corner. So
[27:48] Speaker 3: that's why if you say it, everybody has time to
[27:50] Speaker 3: look at.
[27:51] Speaker 2: It as it relates to the ectoplasm after it manifests.
[27:57] Speaker 2: Have you ever had any residual substance anything that you
[28:03] Speaker 2: could collect as evidence.
[28:06] Speaker 3: No, because it not me personally. I think you know
[28:11] Speaker 3: in historically there might have been somebody, but no, because
[28:17] Speaker 3: they actually take energy from everyone in the room, but
[28:21] Speaker 3: mostly from the medium. It's actually given back reabsorbed. So
[28:30] Speaker 3: after I've done a seance or my circle sitting, when
[28:35] Speaker 3: for a day or two, my ankles are swollen up
[28:40] Speaker 3: like you would not believe. It's like it takes a
[28:43] Speaker 3: couple of days for all of those fluids to go
[28:46] Speaker 3: back and integrate where it needs to be in my body.
[28:50] Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced any seances where maybe a participant
[28:56] Speaker 2: has something negative going on and it manifests during the experience.
[29:01] Speaker 2: Have you ever had any negative spirits come through because
[29:04] Speaker 2: of a person's energy.
[29:09] Speaker 3: One time there was just the person had went into
[29:13] Speaker 3: a trance themselves, and that's one of the things we
[29:16] Speaker 3: asked that everybody is there to give energy instead of take.
[29:21] Speaker 3: So there was an instance and then some of the
[29:28] Speaker 3: spirit team came out and just surrounded that person. So
[29:34] Speaker 3: but no, I have never had any negative things come
[29:38] Speaker 3: up come out.
[29:41] Speaker 2: Let's get deeper into some of the physical manifestations. Earlier
[29:45] Speaker 2: you mentioned the handkerchief. That is this is something called
[29:49] Speaker 2: an apport, a physical gift from the spiritual realm. Have
[29:57] Speaker 2: you had many of these?
[30:00] Speaker 3: Yes, And a lot of people are actually having them
[30:03] Speaker 3: and they don't realize it. Because I like to teach
[30:06] Speaker 3: people that even the pennies from heaven, that we all say, oh,
[30:10] Speaker 3: pennies from heaven, but we don't realize that they really
[30:13] Speaker 3: actually could be pennies from heaven, or the feathers if
[30:17] Speaker 3: they're not in a place. I've had feathers materialized inside
[30:22] Speaker 3: my car where I was sitting on my seat, where
[30:25] Speaker 3: the car had been locked for days after you know,
[30:28] Speaker 3: certain experiences. I've had gemstones. I've had tiny gemstones, I've
[30:34] Speaker 3: had some larger ones. It all depends. That's why you
[30:40] Speaker 3: need to have people a dedicated circle sitting with you,
[30:46] Speaker 3: because it takes a lot of energy. Now there are
[30:49] Speaker 3: times where you would, you know, be able. Some people
[30:53] Speaker 3: get reports from their loved ones and find them on
[30:57] Speaker 3: their bed stand or I met a woman before who
[31:01] Speaker 3: said she always got Oh, they were her dad was
[31:07] Speaker 3: like a mechanic. What are those metal things washer washer? Yes,
[31:14] Speaker 3: so she would always get washers and she knew they
[31:18] Speaker 3: were from her dad because her dad used them in
[31:21] Speaker 3: his work all the time. So I feel like, you know,
[31:26] Speaker 3: that's important to tell people because they might not recognize it,
[31:30] Speaker 3: or they just might take it for granted. If you
[31:32] Speaker 3: find the coins where in the Actually, nowadays people aren't
[31:37] Speaker 3: using cash and coins as much as they used to,
[31:39] Speaker 3: so it's even rare occasion to find something. And I
[31:42] Speaker 3: don't mean like right at the grocery store at the
[31:46] Speaker 3: cash register, but somewhere else, maybe in your house. I
[31:50] Speaker 3: also had a coin that was and I knew we
[31:55] Speaker 3: were moving and it was just last year, and in
[32:00] Speaker 3: the bathroom my spirit guy told me, you know, have John,
[32:04] Speaker 3: look there's something there for you in the third drawer.
[32:08] Speaker 3: And I thought, how weird, I'm not there, But I
[32:10] Speaker 3: told them. Well, he said, no, everything's on of there.
[32:13] Speaker 3: I already cleaned the room. There's nothing in there. I said, well,
[32:15] Speaker 3: just do me a favor and go look anyway, there
[32:19] Speaker 3: was a beautiful coin that they're given out by I
[32:23] Speaker 3: think the Catholic Church every now and then, and their
[32:27] Speaker 3: guardian angel on both sides of this coin, and it
[32:30] Speaker 3: was a fairly large gold coin. And that wasn't there
[32:33] Speaker 3: before I had looked. Before we were moving, the house
[32:36] Speaker 3: was empty. He was there to meet the realtor and
[32:40] Speaker 3: when he went to check it, it was there. More
[32:43] Speaker 3: than likely they might come through during a sans but
[32:48] Speaker 3: it's what I always asked for for whoever has the
[32:52] Speaker 3: greatest need, like maybe it'll be their relatives that might
[32:57] Speaker 3: come through over my face. So I'm open and I
[33:01] Speaker 3: let the spirit team do what they are going to do.
[33:04] Speaker 3: I don't try to influence it.
[33:07] Speaker 2: I've spoken with a couple of paranormal investigators. These particular
[33:13] Speaker 2: investigators work with the more negative side of people's experiences,
[33:18] Speaker 2: but they have an interesting theory about the apports that
[33:24] Speaker 2: these physical items act as anchors for the spiritual being,
[33:30] Speaker 2: to anchor it to either the person or the area
[33:34] Speaker 2: that the airport was found and this can go either
[33:37] Speaker 2: way for negative or positive spirits.
[33:39] Speaker 1: But what do you think about that.
[33:43] Speaker 3: I know that the airports that come through I mean,
[33:47] Speaker 3: you know, mediumship that I've been involved in are of
[33:51] Speaker 3: the higher levels. The gen stones that come through usually
[33:54] Speaker 3: are faceted or not depending. But they just like you know,
[34:01] Speaker 3: information in the crystals and computers, they hold information where
[34:05] Speaker 3: they hold a vibration. I do agree they hold information energy.
[34:12] Speaker 3: But their keys, I feel like they're given to you
[34:15] Speaker 3: to open up your spiritual gifts or whatever it is
[34:19] Speaker 3: you need, if you need healing or whatever it is
[34:21] Speaker 3: you need.
[34:23] Speaker 2: Right on, let's talk a bit about taro and how
[34:27] Speaker 2: you are utilizing this tool.
[34:30] Speaker 3: So I love tarot. I've always, we've always. I grew
[34:34] Speaker 3: up in a family of card players. We always on
[34:37] Speaker 3: family gatherings with play peanutle, all kinds, you know, different
[34:40] Speaker 3: different games, and not necessarily nobody was dealing with tarot,
[34:46] Speaker 3: but I was always fascinated by them. In the nineties,
[34:50] Speaker 3: I was so fascinated with oracle cards. I had a
[34:54] Speaker 3: little bit of trepidation, if you want to call it
[34:59] Speaker 3: about help the tarot. I always first wanted, you know,
[35:03] Speaker 3: I worked with angel cards with oracle cards, a lot
[35:07] Speaker 3: of old dream virtue cards. You know, That's what I
[35:10] Speaker 3: resonated with when I finally said, you know what, I
[35:15] Speaker 3: love the tarot. I think, I think I'm ready for it.
[35:19] Speaker 3: And this is how I teach the classes that I
[35:21] Speaker 3: teach about tarot, because what I was feeling was the
[35:26] Speaker 3: heavy weight the information that these cards hold. And I
[35:32] Speaker 3: believe that spirit gave the first the major arcana because
[35:39] Speaker 3: that came first and then the rest were developed later.
[35:43] Speaker 3: And just like numerology, that was given by an ascended master.
[35:52] Speaker 3: Now I know Pythagorasts, you know, created it, but if
[35:56] Speaker 3: you look back in history, Pythagorasts in an other life
[36:01] Speaker 3: was a very popular assented master. And I've asked and
[36:05] Speaker 3: they told me, yes, that the major arcana was given,
[36:09] Speaker 3: and a lot of people died keeping that information. In
[36:12] Speaker 3: the ancient times, the oracles of Delphi and people really
[36:18] Speaker 3: were tortured. And you know, anybody who used the teraro
[36:23] Speaker 3: or knew the information, they kept it secret. They kept it,
[36:27] Speaker 3: you know, mystical. So I think that's what I was feeling.
[36:33] Speaker 2: Do you use tarot in combination with the seance work
[36:36] Speaker 2: that you.
[36:37] Speaker 3: Do not with the seance work, but I might combine
[36:42] Speaker 3: it with permission. I ask, if I'm doing a reading,
[36:48] Speaker 3: I will do a little bit of psychic and then
[36:52] Speaker 3: either move up to the mediumship information or some people
[36:58] Speaker 3: just want a tarot reap, so it depends, but it's
[37:02] Speaker 3: all It's a good way for people to open up
[37:08] Speaker 3: their abilities because anytime you're working psychically, you're bringing more
[37:13] Speaker 3: light into your pineal gland. Pineal glands very important, and
[37:19] Speaker 3: so that's what they've told me. No matter what type
[37:22] Speaker 3: of work you're doing, if it's psychic as they say
[37:25] Speaker 3: or what, it opens you up and helps you further develop.
[37:30] Speaker 3: So I think it's important if that, but I think
[37:33] Speaker 3: it's important if you're drawn to it. Some people are
[37:36] Speaker 3: not drawn to it, like some people are drawn to
[37:38] Speaker 3: a Luigi board and some are not. So I think
[37:43] Speaker 3: it's all in your level of attraction.
[37:47] Speaker 2: Tell us about your UFO experience, and I'd like to
[37:50] Speaker 2: get some insights into ufology as a whole as well.
[37:56] Speaker 3: So as a child. One other thing that happened to
[38:01] Speaker 3: me a lot was I had little friends that nobody
[38:05] Speaker 3: else saw that I would play with, and now as
[38:08] Speaker 3: I look back, I feel like they were not of
[38:12] Speaker 3: this world. Because I was always on a different the
[38:15] Speaker 3: pretend world was like in a crystal palace. It always
[38:21] Speaker 3: felt like I wasn't like here when I was playing
[38:24] Speaker 3: with those friends, and I never gave much thought to it.
[38:29] Speaker 3: I grew out of.
[38:29] Speaker 1: It, and I thought, you remember what they looked like.
[38:33] Speaker 3: They look like people, but with white hair, okay, all right,
[38:38] Speaker 3: And everything would looked like crystal like crystal buildings, crystal
[38:42] Speaker 3: like white and shiny, almost like selenite. When I see
[38:46] Speaker 3: those crystal selenite towers, I think that makes me remember,
[38:50] Speaker 3: you know, my childhood experiences. But one that stands out
[38:57] Speaker 3: for me is it was in the spring of two
[39:00] Speaker 3: thousand and four. We had just moved to a new
[39:02] Speaker 3: subdivision that they were building in Plainfield, Illinois, and we
[39:08] Speaker 3: weren't far in and to get out of the subdivision,
[39:11] Speaker 3: there was a big farm in Silos and it was
[39:13] Speaker 3: all farmland around us. It was in the evening, just
[39:18] Speaker 3: before it got dark. It was just about to get dark,
[39:21] Speaker 3: so my car lights were on. I remember my car
[39:24] Speaker 3: lights were on, and I had the same Sun who
[39:28] Speaker 3: had all these experiences I talked about with the accident.
[39:32] Speaker 3: He at this time probably was about eleven. He was
[39:36] Speaker 3: in the backseat playing his Nintendo game. But as I
[39:42] Speaker 3: approached to get out of the subdivision on that street,
[39:45] Speaker 3: I saw a classic I mean classic, and it was
[39:52] Speaker 3: very low to the ground, softcer and there were lights
[39:57] Speaker 3: aiming down and going around like it was a circular
[40:01] Speaker 3: motion with the lights. And as soon as I saw
[40:04] Speaker 3: I hit the brakes, I shut my lights off and
[40:06] Speaker 3: I stopped. You know, I turned my car off because
[40:08] Speaker 3: I thought, maybe you won't see me. And I mean,
[40:12] Speaker 3: of course I probably knew I was there, but it
[40:16] Speaker 3: was there maybe like two minutes for me to get
[40:20] Speaker 3: a really good look at it, and then all of
[40:23] Speaker 3: a sudden it went sideways and then like a boom
[40:27] Speaker 3: and it was gone. But I remember specifically it going sideways.
[40:33] Speaker 2: Did it look like something that may have been man made,
[40:38] Speaker 2: reverse engineered. I have a tough time with linking UFOs
[40:42] Speaker 2: to the beings people report, mainly because I am aware
[40:47] Speaker 2: of how much exotic technology our military industrial complex has.
[40:52] Speaker 2: Whether they got it from aliens or not, I don't
[40:54] Speaker 2: think really matters, because we are in possession of some
[40:58] Speaker 2: extremely exotic technology. As it relates to that, there's also
[41:03] Speaker 2: people who have been targeted by government groups, military groups
[41:09] Speaker 2: to perpetuate certain narratives about UFOs and extraterrestrials. That gets
[41:15] Speaker 2: into a whole other topic. But do you think it's
[41:18] Speaker 2: possible that it could have been a military craft.
[41:24] Speaker 3: I don't think so. It didn't feel like it. It
[41:27] Speaker 3: felt very genuine. And what happened to me after that
[41:33] Speaker 3: made me really a believer, because I all of a
[41:40] Speaker 3: sudden started draining batteries even my car. I drove about
[41:47] Speaker 3: thirty miles to work every day. At that time, I
[41:49] Speaker 3: was still working, you know, a regular day job, and
[41:55] Speaker 3: if I finally I took my car into two or
[41:58] Speaker 3: three places and saying it has to have a short
[42:01] Speaker 3: something's wrong with this car, because I could drive it.
[42:05] Speaker 3: By the end of the day it wouldn't start, or
[42:08] Speaker 3: by the next morning, forget it, it wouldn't even turn over.
[42:11] Speaker 3: Everything was checked everything in the car. I took it
[42:14] Speaker 3: so many places, replaced batteries, replaced alternators. Finally, they just
[42:21] Speaker 3: kept telling me there's nothing wrong with your car, lady.
[42:25] Speaker 3: And so John, who's my husband now, he said, well,
[42:30] Speaker 3: why don't you try putting it on a trickle charger
[42:33] Speaker 3: every night? And that's what I had to do for
[42:36] Speaker 3: like three years to get my car to work. As
[42:39] Speaker 3: soon as I got a different car, and I gave
[42:44] Speaker 3: that car to one of my other sons who needed
[42:46] Speaker 3: he who just started driving. He never had a problem
[42:49] Speaker 3: with it, but my cell phone would just drain. More
[42:55] Speaker 3: electrical things were happening to me in my house, like
[42:59] Speaker 3: even when the TV were off, as soon as I
[43:02] Speaker 3: went to turn it on, like it would spark. Things
[43:06] Speaker 3: were sparking. And during that time also I joined my
[43:11] Speaker 3: very you know, I started sitting more and joining more
[43:17] Speaker 3: metaphysical groups. So the energy really amped up, and I
[43:24] Speaker 3: believe it had something to do with that contact, you know.
[43:29] Speaker 3: And I've heard people now, I've heard stories in hindsight
[43:33] Speaker 3: that some people have had situations like that and then
[43:38] Speaker 3: did a pass life regression and find out that maybe
[43:44] Speaker 3: they did have some other experience. But I've never taken
[43:47] Speaker 3: it that far. I just know what I remember. And
[43:49] Speaker 3: then I remember when that sun he before he graduated
[43:54] Speaker 3: high school, he had a he had met a girl
[43:57] Speaker 3: he was hanging around with and her they live down
[44:00] Speaker 3: the opposite side of that farm, and he heard her
[44:03] Speaker 3: mother telling the same story that she sought and nobody
[44:07] Speaker 3: believed her either. So I mean I did I felt
[44:11] Speaker 3: that that was a little bit of collaboration. You know,
[44:14] Speaker 3: it made sense to me.
[44:16] Speaker 2: Do you think extraterrestrials are a separate phenomena from spirit communication?
[44:24] Speaker 2: Most people would consider aliens extraterrestrials to be physical beings
[44:30] Speaker 2: traveling here across the galaxy from different planets, very technologically advanced.
[44:37] Speaker 2: There are tons of crossover between spiritual experiences and extraterrestrial phenomena.
[44:45] Speaker 2: Dream states, altered states contact with different types of beings
[44:50] Speaker 2: that seem to resemble the physical extraterrestrial but can also
[44:55] Speaker 2: appear during spiritual experiences. So I question whether or not
[45:00] Speaker 2: this may be the same thing manifesting in different ways
[45:04] Speaker 2: for different people. In other words, it's still a spiritual experience,
[45:09] Speaker 2: but in order to have the correct impact on that person,
[45:12] Speaker 2: maybe they appear as extra terrestrials.
[45:16] Speaker 3: I believe we're all one consciousness, all of it, so
[45:23] Speaker 3: and kind of what you said, yes, because some people
[45:26] Speaker 3: can accept it. We're all at different levels of consciousness,
[45:29] Speaker 3: so maybe someone can accept it. And during my physical
[45:33] Speaker 3: mediumship in my circle, we do bring through extraterrestrials. Sometimes
[45:40] Speaker 3: they come and they are a whole different vibration. They
[45:46] Speaker 3: are much how should I say stronger. There was one
[45:51] Speaker 3: time that I was like exhausted for three days after
[45:57] Speaker 3: this encounter. This being came through some messages and it
[46:02] Speaker 3: was totally a different vibration and feel, and everybody in
[46:06] Speaker 3: the room felt it and saw it because it wasn't
[46:09] Speaker 3: like a human form. But they give very high spiritual messages,
[46:18] Speaker 3: and it's not always that way. We can have a
[46:21] Speaker 3: send of masters coming through that have a turbin Big
[46:25] Speaker 3: Beer's form over my face. So it's just different. I
[46:31] Speaker 3: can't say, okay, I don't summon anybody. I open myself up.
[46:37] Speaker 3: We say prayers, we sing high vibrational spiritual songs, and
[46:42] Speaker 3: this helps them come through and build the vibration and
[46:46] Speaker 3: show themselves or give messages.
[46:50] Speaker 2: What do you think the purpose of this human experience is?
[46:53] Speaker 2: And what this is that we're experiencing it in, what
[46:58] Speaker 2: this realm is? I've heard so many different understandings of
[47:04] Speaker 2: what we're doing here, why we're here, if we are
[47:08] Speaker 2: a fractal of source that wants to experience and grow.
[47:14] Speaker 2: Some believe that we're trapped in a prison experience by
[47:18] Speaker 2: the Arkans. Others believe it's a purely evolutionary experience. There's
[47:24] Speaker 2: no spirit realm after But why do you think we're
[47:27] Speaker 2: here and what do you think the purpose is.
[47:30] Speaker 3: I think we're here to learn, like it's a school room.
[47:35] Speaker 3: I do feel excuse me, like you know, we get
[47:38] Speaker 3: the amnesia when we are born. It's an opportunity to
[47:43] Speaker 3: learn and grow our spiritual path and master certain things
[47:48] Speaker 3: in our lives. I feel like we are able to
[47:50] Speaker 3: meet with our spiritual team and feel into soul contracts
[47:57] Speaker 3: that we want to experience this time around. And I
[48:01] Speaker 3: do believe there is a hierarchy of souls that have
[48:06] Speaker 3: evolved that maybe have mastered over the thousands and thousands
[48:10] Speaker 3: of years. And I just believe that it's it's choice.
[48:19] Speaker 2: Whether we believe in reincarnation that we are continuously coming
[48:23] Speaker 2: back to have the experience.
[48:26] Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think it's a continual I think we
[48:29] Speaker 3: have choice. If we want to sit one out and
[48:33] Speaker 3: just be a spirit guide for somebody, we can, you know,
[48:37] Speaker 3: because that's also a way for us to learn from
[48:39] Speaker 3: the other side and help somebody else. Maybe maybe it's
[48:43] Speaker 3: an ancestral guide that because maybe they didn't get enough
[48:47] Speaker 3: time with their loved one while they were here, so
[48:49] Speaker 3: they agree to help guide them through the rest of
[48:53] Speaker 3: their life. Or it could be someone maybe just has
[48:59] Speaker 3: the same lesson that maybe you didn't do so good on,
[49:03] Speaker 3: so you are going to help them from the other side.
[49:07] Speaker 3: But I believe it's choice, and believe it or not,
[49:10] Speaker 3: people do want to come back here because it's the
[49:13] Speaker 3: only place in the multiverse where you can have this
[49:17] Speaker 3: physical you know, sensation, the physical body, the material.
[49:23] Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about what you're doing with
[49:26] Speaker 2: afterlife and spiritual life coaching.
[49:32] Speaker 3: I have some classes that you can see that are
[49:37] Speaker 3: going to be coming up on my website. I do
[49:40] Speaker 3: a long term, year long mentorship for people who sign
[49:44] Speaker 3: up who are intrusted. I do mediumship training, I do
[49:49] Speaker 3: psychic specifically psychic training, and I will be having some
[49:54] Speaker 3: short classes and then some long term classes. It depends
[49:58] Speaker 3: on what people are looking for or I try to
[50:01] Speaker 3: meet them where they're at, because not everyone is at
[50:04] Speaker 3: the same level. Some people just want a taste of
[50:10] Speaker 3: their own psychic abilities. They know that they can tune in,
[50:14] Speaker 3: they know that they know things, but they don't understand
[50:17] Speaker 3: the energy systems of the physical body. So it just
[50:21] Speaker 3: all depends. But I am broadening that. I teach Taroll.
[50:26] Speaker 3: I teach spoon bending. You know, I've done that at
[50:31] Speaker 3: the Contact Modalities. I did last year out of Wisconsin
[50:37] Speaker 3: and Melissa Caine runs it and it was fantastic. So
[50:42] Speaker 3: out of fifty four people that were in my particular class,
[50:47] Speaker 3: everybody but three people from the same family were able
[50:51] Speaker 3: to bend. And there were people there that have been
[50:54] Speaker 3: trying for ten years to bend spoon. So and maybe
[50:59] Speaker 3: it was just the mind set of the family, you know,
[51:02] Speaker 3: because it is a mindset. You have to be open,
[51:05] Speaker 3: you have to know your own power. But those are
[51:07] Speaker 3: just some of the things I teach. And I love
[51:09] Speaker 3: to teach tea leaf readings. That's really an ancient art
[51:14] Speaker 3: and I'm very connected with the earth and so is tea,
[51:18] Speaker 3: and I feel like that's a really good way that
[51:23] Speaker 3: some people can accept a reading and to learn without
[51:26] Speaker 3: feeling like it's going against their religion or you know.
[51:30] Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit more about the tea leaf
[51:32] Speaker 2: readings is entailed in this.
[51:35] Speaker 3: So I will offer whoever's going to come for reading,
[51:40] Speaker 3: I'll have a few different teas available and they can
[51:43] Speaker 3: feel and it pick whatever when they want, you know,
[51:45] Speaker 3: maybe different tastes, maybe some are a mixed blend and
[51:51] Speaker 3: we steep the tea and I have if they're in person,
[51:55] Speaker 3: I have them drink it, you know, and as they're
[51:59] Speaker 3: drinking it, I have them and you know, think about
[52:02] Speaker 3: things they would like to know, think about any questions
[52:05] Speaker 3: they might have that they would like answered. And when
[52:08] Speaker 3: they get to the bottom of the cup, then there's
[52:11] Speaker 3: a certain procedure that I do, you know, flipping the
[52:13] Speaker 3: cup and looking at the leaves, and then there's certain
[52:17] Speaker 3: instructions that I know, and all of a sudden, you know,
[52:22] Speaker 3: the tea leaves will turn into symbols. So working with
[52:28] Speaker 3: my clairvoyance and mediumship, working with the tarot cards, symbology
[52:34] Speaker 3: is a language in itself right. So that's what I
[52:37] Speaker 3: always teach too, Like, if you are good and you
[52:40] Speaker 3: can learn your symbols, that's going to help you through
[52:45] Speaker 3: so many modalities and build your clairvoyance that the spirit
[52:49] Speaker 3: realm is going to be able to use and call
[52:51] Speaker 3: up when you're doing readings, they'll show you the symbol
[52:54] Speaker 3: and you'll know what to say. So it's all related.
[52:58] Speaker 3: But that's how I do it.
[53:01] Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest things that we have
[53:04] Speaker 2: lost as humanity is knowledge of the afterlife, knowledge of
[53:10] Speaker 2: how to navigate the afterlife. There are so many people
[53:15] Speaker 2: terrified of death because we have essentially no idea what's
[53:20] Speaker 2: in store for us on the other side. With the
[53:23] Speaker 2: work you're doing and spirit communication, have you inquired about
[53:30] Speaker 2: afterlife mechanics, what we should be doing to prepare for
[53:35] Speaker 2: the afterlife, how we can essentially not get stuck in
[53:39] Speaker 2: astral realms, and how we're able to move on. Have
[53:43] Speaker 2: you gotten any information about this?
[53:47] Speaker 3: So, yes, it is all part of your belief system.
[53:52] Speaker 3: So if you believe that there's nothing after life and
[53:56] Speaker 3: it's just this life and that's it, you might find
[53:59] Speaker 3: yours self not in darkness, but in maybe a sleep
[54:04] Speaker 3: state for quite a long time. I mean, our angels
[54:07] Speaker 3: always come for us to guide us over to the
[54:10] Speaker 3: other side. But some people they don't accept that I'd
[54:16] Speaker 3: actually seen because working in a hospital, I wasn't you know,
[54:20] Speaker 3: a doctor or nurse or anything. I was a paramedic,
[54:22] Speaker 3: and I would see a lot of souls leaving a
[54:30] Speaker 3: body or even communicating with fetuses that weren't born yet
[54:39] Speaker 3: as they toured a hospital room or a hospital unit
[54:43] Speaker 3: to see where their child would be after birth. Because
[54:46] Speaker 3: they might have had a complication. So I think it's
[54:51] Speaker 3: important to just believe and know that there is one
[54:55] Speaker 3: and I believe, you know, even for those religious folks
[54:57] Speaker 3: and people who are very grounded in their religion, I
[55:02] Speaker 3: respect that. And I feel like that's very important for everybody,
[55:06] Speaker 3: is to respect other people's spiritual beliefs. We don't have
[55:10] Speaker 3: to argue about it. We just have to allow them
[55:12] Speaker 3: their own space because there's a lot of truth in it.
[55:16] Speaker 3: But there's also a lot of things that were pulled
[55:19] Speaker 3: out or taken out. But I still have a lot
[55:22] Speaker 3: of reverence. And the ascended Masters are Biblical beings, Hindu beings,
[55:33] Speaker 3: you know, Tibetan beings. So I believe it's important to
[55:41] Speaker 3: respect and to know that there is a spiritual realm
[55:44] Speaker 3: and believe in it and you will have that experience.
[55:48] Speaker 2: I've heard this often that what you believe during your
[55:52] Speaker 2: incarnation will manifest in the afterlife. And I often wonder
[55:57] Speaker 2: for people that believe they deserve to spend eternity in
[56:02] Speaker 2: hell if they're going to experience something like that. And
[56:06] Speaker 2: on the other hand, if a person is a complete
[56:08] Speaker 2: psychopath and they do horrible things in their incarnation, but
[56:13] Speaker 2: they think that it's perfectly fine and they don't see
[56:16] Speaker 2: anything wrong with it. What happens then just some weird
[56:20] Speaker 2: questions I have.
[56:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's totally makes sense. It's a sensible question
[56:26] Speaker 3: because you know, your beloved grandma shouldn't be in the
[56:29] Speaker 3: same place as a mass murderer.
[56:33] Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dummer.
[56:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so they're ooh, and I get children. There
[56:38] Speaker 3: are different levels, different levels of the spare realm. Some
[56:45] Speaker 3: people will go to learn to you know, it's it's
[56:52] Speaker 3: all about teaching, and believe it or not, it is
[56:55] Speaker 3: all about love. I believe this whole the whole purpose
[56:58] Speaker 3: of us is to learn to love and not be
[57:05] Speaker 3: so judgmental, just to be open, open, And I think
[57:11] Speaker 3: if you if you can do that and you're not.
[57:14] Speaker 3: We all have mistakes that we've made. That's why we're here.
[57:17] Speaker 3: We're here to learn. You know. We all have things
[57:19] Speaker 3: we might have could have done better. And I believe
[57:23] Speaker 3: that that's how we will have our our life review.
[57:29] Speaker 3: I think it's ourselves reviewing it. Maybe we will really
[57:33] Speaker 3: feel how that other person felt, you know, But I
[57:36] Speaker 3: don't think it's like a judge and jury up there
[57:38] Speaker 3: while you're going here and you're down there. I feel
[57:40] Speaker 3: like it's just you are able to feel and go
[57:44] Speaker 3: through a lot of your emotions.
[57:48] Speaker 2: Well, Julie, thank you so much. As was great information.
[57:51] Speaker 2: Before we close out, tell everyone a bit about the
[57:54] Speaker 2: book and how they can pick it up.
[57:56] Speaker 3: Great. So this is the book came out in April,
[58:00] Speaker 3: Messages from the Beyond. It has a lot about my
[58:04] Speaker 3: story in my mediumship. I have another book coming out
[58:08] Speaker 3: probably the end of October, and it's going to be
[58:12] Speaker 3: called The Windy City Circle, and it's all about our circle.
[58:16] Speaker 3: So if you want to know how to form a circle,
[58:19] Speaker 3: how circles work, what's important. It's not only from me,
[58:24] Speaker 3: It's going to come from all of the people who
[58:26] Speaker 3: are in my circle. They're all going to have their
[58:28] Speaker 3: own chapter and tell how being in a circle has
[58:31] Speaker 3: uplifted them their own personal work, because it's not about
[58:36] Speaker 3: they come to support my mediumship, but they also get
[58:40] Speaker 3: uplifted and imbued with all these energies too.
[58:43] Speaker 2: Now, if a person is interested in utilizing your services
[58:48] Speaker 2: working with you, are they able to do so?
[58:51] Speaker 3: Sure. I have a website, Julie Adriani, Spirit Medium, and
[58:57] Speaker 3: I have a great newsletter that comes out that I've
[59:00] Speaker 3: started this year that I'll tell you what's coming up
[59:02] Speaker 3: for the next month. It's got a lot of information.
[59:05] Speaker 3: I try to include a lot of free information too
[59:08] Speaker 3: on you know, Flowers of the Month, Crystals of the Month.
[59:12] Speaker 3: And I also have a new show every Sunday evening
[59:15] Speaker 3: on the Spirit Realm Network. So if anybody would like
[59:21] Speaker 3: free angel card readings or just to talk about something spiritual,
[59:26] Speaker 3: join us. All you have to do is like and
[59:28] Speaker 3: follow the Spirit Realm Network and jump on on at
[59:32] Speaker 3: eight o'clock on Monday evening on Sunday evenings and you're
[59:36] Speaker 3: going to ask for a card. And what is an
[59:38] Speaker 3: angel reading? It's something knowledge for you, all about you.
[59:43] Speaker 3: It's not mediumship, because there's other people who do mediumship
[59:46] Speaker 3: on that station. But I feel that in this day
[59:50] Speaker 3: and age, a lot of people have questions just about
[59:53] Speaker 3: their own life. So I come the angel readings.
[59:57] Speaker 2: Julie, thank you so much. I'd love to do this
[59:59] Speaker 2: again in the future. And until next time, everyone, have
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: an excellent evening.
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: We'll talk to you.
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