# FKN Classics Double Feature! Crrow777 - 2nd Sun Discovery | Ed Mabrie - Fallen Angels

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 13 Sep 2026, 2 h 16 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I
[0:06] Speaker 1: want to welcome back to the show Crow Triple Seven.
[0:09] Speaker 1: He is creator of Crow Triple Seven Radio. He holds
[0:13] Speaker 1: a degree in internet technology. He researches the hidden world
[0:17] Speaker 1: behind ours and the methods of deception being used by
[0:21] Speaker 1: the controllers. Crow, welcome back.
[0:24] Speaker 2: How you doing?
[0:25] Speaker 3: I'm good, man. Thanks so much for having me back.
[0:29] Speaker 1: It's great to have you back. I always enjoy our conversations.
[0:32] Speaker 1: You do fantastic work. It's been a while since we spoke.
[0:36] Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to sharing some of the research
[0:39] Speaker 1: that you've been presenting, which is absolutely incredible and could
[0:43] Speaker 1: change everything that we think we understand about our cosmology
[0:48] Speaker 1: and beyond. And you've also had an extremely interesting return
[0:53] Speaker 1: guest on your show that I want to get to
[0:55] Speaker 1: if we have.
[0:56] Speaker 2: Time as well.
[0:57] Speaker 1: But before we get into any of that, since it's
[1:00] Speaker 1: been a little while for those that may not be familiar,
[1:03] Speaker 1: tell us just a little bit about yourself and let
[1:05] Speaker 1: them know where they can find your work.
[1:08] Speaker 3: Well, I'll cut to the chase. All my work is
[1:11] Speaker 3: on a private server now. I've walked away from the
[1:14] Speaker 3: censorship and all the nonsense on the platforms. While I
[1:17] Speaker 3: do have an X account and some other things that
[1:21] Speaker 3: Rose runs, they're basically advertisements for my private server. So
[1:25] Speaker 3: everything Crow777, can be found at crow777radio. com. That is C-R-R-O-W-777radio.com.
[1:35] Speaker 3: And members get access to everything. We have forums, threads.
[1:38] Speaker 3: They can create top-level topics. The membership gets free access
[1:43] Speaker 3: to the movie that Jason produced called Shoot the Moon.
[1:46] Speaker 3: It's a two-hour film covering all my older telescope work
[1:50] Speaker 3: with all the lunar waves, the moon work, the chemtrails,
[1:53] Speaker 3: the weird UFO things, and The first discovery of the
[1:58] Speaker 3: so-called second sun is included in that film. It has
[2:01] Speaker 3: 10 awards in the world and membership also gets exclusive
[2:05] Speaker 3: access to the solar work I'm doing with my big,
[2:09] Speaker 3: huge solar telescope that I saved up for. And I
[2:12] Speaker 3: will share a couple images with everybody today. I just
[2:17] Speaker 3: started shooting again two days ago. The weather allows.
[2:21] Speaker 2: Looking forward to that.
[2:22] Speaker 1: Before we get into any of that, like I said,
[2:25] Speaker 1: it's been a little while since you've been on, definitely
[2:27] Speaker 1: over a year. What are your thoughts on what's behind
[2:31] Speaker 1: the theatrics that we witness on our televisions and social
[2:36] Speaker 1: medias and everyone paying attention to the Matrix nonsense? What
[2:40] Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what's behind that and what we
[2:43] Speaker 1: could be expecting to come out of the administration, everything
[2:48] Speaker 1: that we've been experiencing?
[2:52] Speaker 3: So I'm guessing you're talking about Trump and his.
[2:56] Speaker 2: Whatever angle you want to go.
[2:57] Speaker 1: I mean, that's the mainstream people who pay attention to
[3:01] Speaker 1: politics angle. There's many layers, as you know, but we
[3:05] Speaker 1: can cut to the deeper layers. My audience is already
[3:08] Speaker 1: there with me.
[3:12] Speaker 3: Well, the man came into office and he's done everything
[3:15] Speaker 3: he can to come off as a savior. And when
[3:17] Speaker 3: someone comes around saying things like, I'm going to remove
[3:21] Speaker 3: the IRS. He fools people. Everybody forgets who brought us COVID,
[3:28] Speaker 3: who was in office when the world was shut down.
[3:31] Speaker 3: Never forget. And his little buddy there, what's he call himself?
[3:36] Speaker 3: Dark Maga. He's not joking. He's wearing black for a reason.
[3:41] Speaker 3: And don't be fooled. He is here with his technology
[3:46] Speaker 3: to implement digital currencies, AI technology. And Trump is basically
[3:51] Speaker 3: here like you would hire someone to oversee the disillusionment
[3:58] Speaker 3: of a corporation. That's what Trump is doing now. He's
[4:02] Speaker 3: shutting down endless things that will be privatized or will
[4:06] Speaker 3: go away permanently. And he's not your friend. None of
[4:11] Speaker 3: them are your friend. And if you can't remember what
[4:13] Speaker 3: happened in 2020, then I don't know what to tell you.
[4:17] Speaker 3: Who was holding the reins? when our economy got broken.
[4:21] Speaker 3: I mean, everybody knows what happened, and he was there
[4:25] Speaker 3: when that happened. 100%.
[4:27] Speaker 1: I'm amazed at how many of my friends, colleagues, and
[4:32] Speaker 1: family members who I thought were more aware of things
[4:36] Speaker 1: are completely hypnotized by what the right hand of this
[4:41] Speaker 1: administration is presenting, while the left hand is doing everything
[4:47] Speaker 1: that you just mentioned. And the technocratic surveillance state, which
[4:52] Speaker 1: should be the worst nightmare of anyone listening, is just
[4:57] Speaker 1: being rolled out right under our noses. So it's pretty
[5:01] Speaker 1: incredible the hypnosis it seems many are under.
[5:07] Speaker 3: You're probably going to see a massive event. If I
[5:09] Speaker 3: had to guess, it'll be at the height of the
[5:11] Speaker 3: power of the sun, June or maybe July or August.
[5:16] Speaker 3: Maybe a power outage, but you are going to see
[5:18] Speaker 3: a run where you see the banking go down at
[5:21] Speaker 3: some point, and they're going to try to quickly get
[5:24] Speaker 3: their digital money. If they succeed in getting their digital money,
[5:28] Speaker 3: human beings will have lost more freedom on that day
[5:31] Speaker 3: than the known history of human beings. And this is
[5:36] Speaker 3: an interesting time. The new world is emerging. It's even
[5:40] Speaker 3: possible that we are recording this on the 13th. For me,
[5:45] Speaker 3: the actual spring equinox on the east coast of the
[5:47] Speaker 3: United States will be on St. Patrick's Day. St. Patrick
[5:51] Speaker 3: is the personification, the Catholic personification of the spring equinox.
[5:57] Speaker 3: When we arrive there, it is possible that that is
[6:01] Speaker 3: the actual era change day. Nobody knows for sure. A
[6:05] Speaker 3: lot of people have opinions, but everyone should be able
[6:09] Speaker 3: to sense the consciousness rising and everything that goes with it.
[6:13] Speaker 3: The new era will not tolerate the low vibrational systems
[6:17] Speaker 3: that we have all become so used to, and everybody
[6:21] Speaker 3: who clutches onto all those old systems may be left
[6:27] Speaker 3: behind for a period in these low vibrational systems. The
[6:31] Speaker 3: new era is a much higher vibrational system, and it
[6:35] Speaker 3: has no space for these older systems that did not
[6:40] Speaker 3: have your best interests at heart. The new era could
[6:44] Speaker 3: be defined as service to others. The old era is
[6:48] Speaker 3: service to self, service to money, materialism. All that has
[6:53] Speaker 3: to go away. If we all join in mass and
[6:58] Speaker 3: begin to treat each other and all living things with respect,
[7:02] Speaker 3: then much more quickly, these dark, dark things that we're
[7:06] Speaker 3: contending with will lose their position. It's a bit like
[7:10] Speaker 3: having a tuning fork. Where all the tuning forks are
[7:13] Speaker 3: resonating in a room and then bringing in a tuning
[7:16] Speaker 3: fork at a lower vibration, it can't resonate. It can't
[7:21] Speaker 3: integrate into that system. And over time, all these things,
[7:26] Speaker 3: the government, the dark state, all the things people don't like,
[7:30] Speaker 3: they're going to go away now. And they're going to
[7:34] Speaker 3: do everything they can to hold power. They're going to
[7:36] Speaker 3: cause as much strife and destruction as they can. And
[7:40] Speaker 3: it's really on us. how quickly we lift up our
[7:44] Speaker 3: minds and no longer participate in the systems that we
[7:50] Speaker 3: grew up with.
[7:51] Speaker 2: Right on. I like that tuning fork analogy. That's right on.
[7:55] Speaker 1: You mentioned the rising consciousness, and I've heard you discuss
[7:59] Speaker 1: this before, how it coincides with what is beyond our atmosphere,
[8:07] Speaker 1: the firmament. what we view as the sun and its
[8:11] Speaker 1: possible counterpart that we're going to discuss today. First of all,
[8:16] Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about what led you to
[8:18] Speaker 1: this discovery.
[8:23] Speaker 3: Well, in 2012, actually it was sometime before that, everyone
[8:30] Speaker 3: remembers the crash of 2008. Shortly after that, I had
[8:34] Speaker 3: had enough. And I walked away from, I used to
[8:37] Speaker 3: freelance my services, digital services. I used to make websites
[8:42] Speaker 3: or business strategy, anything to do with running major corporations.
[8:48] Speaker 3: And after the crash of 08, I'd had enough. And
[8:51] Speaker 3: I walked away and I realized I didn't know how
[8:54] Speaker 3: I was going to pay my rent or anything else.
[8:57] Speaker 3: And I said, well, if it's going to be like this,
[8:59] Speaker 3: I might as well do what I want. So I
[9:01] Speaker 3: dusted off my old telescope and I started using it.
[9:05] Speaker 3: And not too long after that, I accidentally filmed the
[9:08] Speaker 3: lunar wave and a bunch of other things. I held
[9:11] Speaker 3: onto that footage for a year and I posted it
[9:13] Speaker 3: in the fall, October of 2013. 30 days later, the
[9:18] Speaker 3: flat earth community exploded. Everyone referencing the lunar work I
[9:22] Speaker 3: had been doing. And then in 2015, I accidentally filmed
[9:29] Speaker 3: the so-called second sun explosion. And I did release that
[9:33] Speaker 3: on YouTube, but I did it much more quietly because
[9:36] Speaker 3: I didn't want to go through what I went through
[9:38] Speaker 3: with the lunar wave, which absolutely changed everything. And by 2016,
[9:44] Speaker 3: another man with similar equipment that I used replicated what
[9:49] Speaker 3: I did, but the second son was in a different
[9:51] Speaker 3: location when he did it. Then in 2016, later that year,
[9:56] Speaker 3: the SLU Observatory was doing a live stream for children.
[10:00] Speaker 3: showing the transit of Mercury across the sun, but they
[10:03] Speaker 3: had a problem. The second sun wasn't hiding behind the sun,
[10:08] Speaker 3: which it is most of the time, and they couldn't
[10:11] Speaker 3: get it out of frame. It was so close to
[10:13] Speaker 3: the sun. About halfway through, The astronomer says, I bet
[10:17] Speaker 3: you're all wondering what that other object is.
[10:19] Speaker 2: I've seen that broadcast.
[10:19] Speaker 3: That is, in fact, the second sun. Yeah. And he says,
[10:23] Speaker 3: NASA knows all about it. They just don't want you
[10:25] Speaker 3: to know about it. And just so people know, I
[10:30] Speaker 3: wish I knew a lot more about it than I do,
[10:32] Speaker 3: but I know that it's a fact. There is another
[10:35] Speaker 3: sun there. People can argue all they want. Sooner or later,
[10:39] Speaker 3: that will become common knowledge. It is currently, I suspect currently...
[10:46] Speaker 3: that there is separation between the two bodies at some
[10:49] Speaker 3: times at sunset and sunrise and it is in the
[10:53] Speaker 3: visual spectrum at least partially like our sun if you
[10:59] Speaker 3: go out and film at sunrise and sunset and you
[11:02] Speaker 3: think you see the other object you need to shoot
[11:05] Speaker 3: video and slightly move your camera and that will be
[11:09] Speaker 3: the proof of whether you film the second sun or
[11:12] Speaker 3: not Image is interesting, but you can't prove a lot
[11:16] Speaker 3: with a still image. There will come a time, I suspect,
[11:22] Speaker 3: where there's no more denying it, that it's visible most
[11:25] Speaker 3: of the time. I think the MasterCard logo is making
[11:29] Speaker 3: fun of the fact that we didn't know there was
[11:31] Speaker 3: a second son. I think that when Luke in Star
[11:36] Speaker 3: Wars was on Tatooine, that's exactly what it looks like
[11:40] Speaker 3: when they show the two sons on Tatooine. And also
[11:44] Speaker 3: the very important movie, 2001, that tried to convince us
[11:48] Speaker 3: we went to the moon, has a sequel called 2010.
[11:51] Speaker 3: And at the end of that film, the star of
[11:55] Speaker 3: the movie does this big speech where he announces his
[11:59] Speaker 3: children will grow up in a world where there are
[12:01] Speaker 3: two sons. And I think all of these things are
[12:05] Speaker 3: referencing what is now going to come to light. And
[12:09] Speaker 3: people are probably wondering about evidence, so give me a second.
[12:12] Speaker 3: I'll send it through the chat here if I can.
[12:15] Speaker 3: I'm going to show you two images that I have
[12:19] Speaker 3: processed so far from Tuesday a couple days ago. It's
[12:25] Speaker 3: not going to let me put it through the chat.
[12:26] Speaker 2: So that's okay.
[12:27] Speaker 1: What you can do is just email it to me.
[12:29] Speaker 1: This is a prerecorded, so I'll just pop it up
[12:32] Speaker 1: while we're discussing this.
[12:35] Speaker 3: Throw the email address you want me to use in
[12:37] Speaker 3: the chat, please.
[12:39] Speaker 2: And while I am.
[12:40] Speaker 1: Doing this, maybe you could tell us a little bit
[12:42] Speaker 1: about the telescope that you're using in the equipment.
[12:48] Speaker 3: So I saved up for, I don't know, something like
[12:51] Speaker 3: 10 years to buy a 130-millimeter Lunt hydrogen alpha solar
[12:57] Speaker 3: telescope with a double stack, so two etylons. Give me
[13:03] Speaker 3: just a second, and I will send this. Um, I'm sorry.
[13:09] Speaker 2: I lost my, we're talking about your equipment. Uh, the, uh,
[13:13] Speaker 2: here we go.
[13:15] Speaker 3: So I saved up and I got that very big
[13:18] Speaker 3: solar telescope. And here's the thing with filming the sun.
[13:23] Speaker 3: It is by far the hardest thing I've ever tried
[13:26] Speaker 3: to film. Nothing about it is easy. The brightness of
[13:30] Speaker 3: the sun, trying to focus, tuning etalons to get the detail.
[13:34] Speaker 3: It is all quite difficult. Um, And when I say difficult,
[13:39] Speaker 3: you can do it. But to do it at a
[13:41] Speaker 3: high level, it takes a lot of experience and know-how.
[13:46] Speaker 3: And the thing about large solar telescopes is when the
[13:50] Speaker 3: seeing is not good and the conditions are not perfect,
[13:54] Speaker 3: the larger the telescope, the more that is amplified. And
[13:58] Speaker 3: so with all the spraying of chemtrails and everything that
[14:01] Speaker 3: goes on, it's constantly contending with the quality of of
[14:08] Speaker 3: the seeing. But this first image, if you can blow
[14:11] Speaker 3: it up for folks, I shot two days ago. This
[14:16] Speaker 3: is the sun in hydrogen alpha. What you're looking at
[14:21] Speaker 3: is the hydrogen alpha wavelength, which is in the visual
[14:25] Speaker 3: spectrum to the far edge of red. This particular image
[14:31] Speaker 3: has one fake element, and that fake element is color.
[14:36] Speaker 3: I add the color. That is the only thing that
[14:39] Speaker 3: is not real to what I filmed. The reason for
[14:43] Speaker 3: that is when you shoot in black and white, you
[14:47] Speaker 3: get a much larger color palette of shades and I
[14:49] Speaker 3: get much more detail. So when I shoot, whether I'm
[14:53] Speaker 3: video or going for stills, no matter what I'm doing,
[14:55] Speaker 3: I shoot in black and white. That gives me this
[14:58] Speaker 3: level of detail and then I just assign a color
[15:02] Speaker 3: that helps your mind think about it. So most people
[15:04] Speaker 3: would expect yellows to orange to see it. Now on
[15:08] Speaker 3: the outer edge of this, if you look at the
[15:11] Speaker 3: lower left, you can see the evidence of the second sun,
[15:15] Speaker 3: which is hiding behind this sun. Look at the top right,
[15:20] Speaker 3: there's not much of an outer glow. Look at the
[15:22] Speaker 3: lower left, and you can see the outer glow. That
[15:26] Speaker 3: is in fact the other object, not quite dead center
[15:30] Speaker 3: behind our sun. And again, for whatever reason, many times
[15:35] Speaker 3: at sunrise and sunset, there is separation between them. And
[15:40] Speaker 3: as it begins to rise in the sky, with what
[15:43] Speaker 3: I know now, it seems to most of the time
[15:46] Speaker 3: tuck in behind our sun from our vision point. But
[15:52] Speaker 3: if you load the other image, I've added some things
[15:55] Speaker 3: in and inverted the image. Now this is the exact
[15:59] Speaker 3: same shot, but it's been inverted. The reason it's inverted,
[16:03] Speaker 3: and this is a common practice, is it shows the
[16:07] Speaker 3: 3D detail more readily. So you'll notice the sunspots are
[16:11] Speaker 3: now white. So you get what I'm telling you. It's
[16:14] Speaker 3: literally inverted. But I added an arrow in the lower
[16:17] Speaker 3: left with a line to show you where we can
[16:21] Speaker 3: detect the energy signature or maybe even the edge of
[16:25] Speaker 3: that other body that I'm calling the second sun.
[16:29] Speaker 2: I see that.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Now on the bottom where the arrow is pointing, is
[16:35] Speaker 1: that just a filament that's coming off of the sun
[16:38] Speaker 1: that we see that round?
[16:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's called a prominence and it looks like flames,
[16:44] Speaker 3: though it is not. And actually, let me see if
[16:50] Speaker 3: I have one that I've been sharing. Hold on. Let
[16:53] Speaker 3: me get, give me just a second. I'm going to
[16:56] Speaker 3: get Rose to email me. Rose, can you please email
[17:02] Speaker 3: me the looping animation that I've been sharing? I'm on
[17:06] Speaker 3: the air now. In a minute, hopefully, she'll email that.
[17:14] Speaker 3: And what I've done is I've taken images like this,
[17:18] Speaker 3: but they were close up on those prominences. And I
[17:22] Speaker 3: animate them so that you can see what the movement
[17:24] Speaker 3: looks like. And I speed it up about 500 times.
[17:30] Speaker 3: She's going to email it right now, and I'll shoot
[17:32] Speaker 3: it over to you, and you'll be able to share that.
[17:35] Speaker 2: That is a brilliant picture of the sun, by the way.
[17:39] Speaker 3: It takes very good equipment, which is expensive, and it
[17:43] Speaker 3: takes a lot of know-how. And I have a buddy
[17:45] Speaker 3: who does this with me who handles simply the software,
[17:49] Speaker 3: the technical side. The days of setting up a telescope,
[17:52] Speaker 3: aiming it, and focusing are gone. Now there's platforms and
[17:57] Speaker 3: mini PCs and everything that That go with it, but
[18:02] Speaker 3: here let me she said she just sent it. Let
[18:04] Speaker 3: me see if I've got it. There it is so
[18:07] Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do is forward this to Forbidden news
[18:16] Speaker 3: All right, you should have it and you can share
[18:19] Speaker 3: that and then I'm gonna direct you if you would
[18:21] Speaker 3: go to my website where I have people wanted to
[18:25] Speaker 3: be able to buy the stills and frame them in
[18:28] Speaker 3: posters and And I'll show you on my website, I
[18:31] Speaker 3: have a whole bunch that I really took a lot
[18:33] Speaker 3: of time to produce. But this animation that Rose just
[18:37] Speaker 3: sent is quite interesting because it shows the electromagnetic nature
[18:42] Speaker 3: of the prominences and the energy flow.
[18:45] Speaker 2: All right, let's see. Can you see my screen here?
[18:50] Speaker 3: Take a minute to download, probably. So what you're looking
[18:54] Speaker 3: at here... is it takes three hours of data collection
[18:58] Speaker 3: to get an animation like this. So basically what I
[19:01] Speaker 3: do is I take a roughly 45 second to one
[19:06] Speaker 3: minute video. Basically I'm capturing in the neighborhood of 2000 frames.
[19:11] Speaker 3: Then I turn off the camera. I wait about 30
[19:14] Speaker 3: or 40 seconds and I do the same thing again.
[19:17] Speaker 3: And I do that for three hours. When I'm done,
[19:20] Speaker 3: I take all those videos and I stack them down
[19:23] Speaker 3: into a still image like the ones you just saw.
[19:26] Speaker 3: And then I turn them into a video and speed
[19:29] Speaker 3: it up 500 to 1,000 times. And this allows you
[19:34] Speaker 3: to see the actual motion. And you'll notice the curving,
[19:39] Speaker 3: arcing nature, the electromagnetic nature. In my view, the sun
[19:44] Speaker 3: is not a nuclear furnace. That dark spot is what's
[19:48] Speaker 3: called a filament, but it's actually... actually just a prominence
[19:51] Speaker 3: at an angle that doesn't allow you to see it
[19:53] Speaker 3: like a flame you're just looking straight down on it
[19:57] Speaker 3: but again the sun is electromagnetic in my view and
[20:02] Speaker 3: furthermore it is my view that we're looking at an
[20:06] Speaker 3: outer shell and that there is no ball of matter
[20:09] Speaker 3: inside that, which makes you wonder where the energy is
[20:12] Speaker 3: coming from. I think that the energy is being drawn
[20:16] Speaker 3: from counter space. Eric Dollard thinks as much, and I
[20:19] Speaker 3: just interviewed a very high-end scientist who used to be
[20:24] Speaker 3: in high reaches of academia in the government. He left
[20:28] Speaker 3: all that, and he confirmed everything that I'm saying here
[20:32] Speaker 3: as what they think is correct. By the way, Those
[20:35] Speaker 3: people refer to the other sun as the black sun,
[20:39] Speaker 3: but I do not think that's the right moniker. I
[20:42] Speaker 3: think the black hole sun or black sun is something
[20:45] Speaker 3: different than what I'm filming.
[20:48] Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about what has changed that
[20:52] Speaker 1: we can observe for ourselves in the sky. One thing
[20:56] Speaker 1: that I definitely notice is the color of the sun.
[20:59] Speaker 1: I distinctly remember a very orange- warm sun growing up
[21:06] Speaker 1: and now it just looks like a led light bulb
[21:09] Speaker 1: and i started to gradually see this change over the
[21:12] Speaker 1: years is this something that would be connected to the
[21:16] Speaker 1: second sun.
[21:19] Speaker 3: Yeah what what what is going on in my view
[21:22] Speaker 3: is we're about to change the age when that is
[21:25] Speaker 3: exactly i don't think you know people may know but
[21:29] Speaker 3: most of us are just you know getting the best
[21:32] Speaker 3: we can it could be a few days from now
[21:34] Speaker 3: on the actual spring equinox. But my point is the
[21:37] Speaker 3: sun for the new era. Look, the sun is like
[21:41] Speaker 3: a lens and it lenses in all the energies and
[21:44] Speaker 3: it's directly to do with our consciousness. So as you
[21:48] Speaker 3: notice consciousness rising, even in animals, right? Have you seen
[21:52] Speaker 3: the bulldog grab a skateboard? Okay. Well, if he did
[21:55] Speaker 3: that in the seventies, that'd be the most famous dog
[21:57] Speaker 3: in the universe, but that's common. Now all life is
[22:01] Speaker 3: boosting the sun. is the instigator or the provider of that.
[22:07] Speaker 3: This other binary, it is supposedly said in Vedic astrology, astronomy,
[22:13] Speaker 3: and other things, when it gets further away, our consciousness
[22:16] Speaker 3: goes into the dark age. When it gets close, our
[22:20] Speaker 3: consciousness explodes into the golden age. That's what we're experiencing.
[22:26] Speaker 3: And the color change I would take issue with one thing.
[22:33] Speaker 3: To compare it to an LED, I think, is a mistake,
[22:36] Speaker 3: because an LED is not a healthy thing. Our sun
[22:40] Speaker 3: is conscious and alive, and it has to do with
[22:43] Speaker 3: our consciousness. The new, very pale look it has is
[22:48] Speaker 3: reflecting the vibrational boost, the frequency boost. A few days ago,
[22:55] Speaker 3: they actually turned off the... the monitor that does the
[23:00] Speaker 3: earth vibration, the Schumann resonance monitor. They turned it off
[23:03] Speaker 3: because they didn't want people to see the spike in energy.
[23:06] Speaker 3: I think for like 24 hours they turned it off
[23:09] Speaker 3: so people couldn't see. The vibration of the earth is
[23:13] Speaker 3: going up. This is related to the sun. This is
[23:16] Speaker 3: related to the binary that I've been trying to get
[23:19] Speaker 3: people to consider. And this is a hell of a time,
[23:23] Speaker 3: a heck of a time to be alive. You have
[23:26] Speaker 3: a front row seat to events that take millennia to
[23:31] Speaker 3: come around. And right now we have the opportunity to
[23:36] Speaker 3: deal once and for all with the dark aspects, the
[23:39] Speaker 3: evil aspects of this world and claim our birthright and
[23:44] Speaker 3: create a new earth, which is respectful to all consciousness,
[23:50] Speaker 3: to all living things. that has a vibratory level and
[23:54] Speaker 3: frequency that does not allow for such selfish and dark manipulation,
[24:00] Speaker 3: which we have lived our whole lives under.
[24:03] Speaker 1: It's so interesting you mentioned the animals. This is something
[24:06] Speaker 1: I've been noticing for.
[24:07] Speaker 2: The past few years, and you're exactly right.
[24:10] Speaker 1: If there was a dog skateboarding or almost just outright talking,
[24:15] Speaker 1: like I hear some of these dogs do and even
[24:18] Speaker 1: cats do, it definitely seems that there has been this
[24:23] Speaker 1: jump in consciousness on all levels of life on the planet.
[24:29] Speaker 1: But something that does concern me as of late, there
[24:31] Speaker 1: seems to also be this regression that has come along
[24:36] Speaker 1: with the hopium that's being provided as well, and I'm
[24:41] Speaker 1: hoping that that falls away and more people will become
[24:46] Speaker 1: more aware of what's really behind the... this new administration
[24:51] Speaker 1: and everything behind that. But you're absolutely right. It's incredible
[24:54] Speaker 1: to see the animals reacting the way they are.
[25:00] Speaker 3: The plants are going to do the same thing. They
[25:02] Speaker 3: are also alive. Life in this world is getting an upgrade.
[25:08] Speaker 3: And the chemtrailing that you see, that is a direct
[25:12] Speaker 3: effort to block the lensing energy from our sun to
[25:17] Speaker 3: boost and upgrade us, basically, to use low-minded computer language,
[25:23] Speaker 3: to boost our consciousness. These chemtrails are spraying salts and
[25:27] Speaker 3: metals in the sky, scattering that energy. But the truth is,
[25:32] Speaker 3: they're going to fail. If they woke up tomorrow and said,
[25:36] Speaker 3: all right, it's low tide, we don't want the tide
[25:38] Speaker 3: to come in anymore, they might be able to take
[25:41] Speaker 3: all their resources and prevent the tide from coming in
[25:43] Speaker 3: for a day or a week. Or even a year,
[25:46] Speaker 3: I don't know. But eventually, I guarantee you that tide's
[25:50] Speaker 3: coming in. And that's what's going on now. And the
[25:54] Speaker 3: longer we give energy to things like our corporation that
[25:58] Speaker 3: we call a government, people can't possibly remember that the
[26:02] Speaker 3: same man doing what he's doing now shut down the
[26:05] Speaker 3: world and broke almost every system and caused misery for people.
[26:11] Speaker 3: having them self-imposed lock up in their houses and not
[26:15] Speaker 3: be able to see their parents. Some of them dying,
[26:18] Speaker 3: never having been able to say goodbye to their parents.
[26:20] Speaker 3: That's the man who was there. And if you forget that,
[26:24] Speaker 3: then you've got some work to do. This new era
[26:27] Speaker 3: is about what you can do, not what some other
[26:31] Speaker 3: person like a magical president can do. And to sit
[26:36] Speaker 3: here and glom on to the supposed commander-in-chief as if
[26:41] Speaker 3: he's going to solve your problems, I would ask a
[26:44] Speaker 3: simple question. When's the last time the government ever did
[26:48] Speaker 3: anything to benefit us? For longer than you've been alive,
[26:53] Speaker 3: there's been a speech from the man who brought us
[26:56] Speaker 3: through World War II warning you about the military-industrial complex,
[27:02] Speaker 3: which was already out of control. And you don't even...
[27:07] Speaker 3: reap the benefits of the Constitution right now because of
[27:11] Speaker 3: the way the corporation has you classified. But all that's
[27:15] Speaker 3: coming to an end. It's just a matter of what
[27:17] Speaker 3: do we have to go through to get there and
[27:20] Speaker 3: how long do we have to contend with it.
[27:22] Speaker 2: Right on.
[27:23] Speaker 1: The only way to it is through it, it seems.
[27:26] Speaker 1: Let's get back to the implications of this second son
[27:31] Speaker 1: as it relates to our real cosmology. And this is,
[27:35] Speaker 1: I understand, something that is almost impossible to really understand.
[27:40] Speaker 1: But I do think that the flat earth community has
[27:44] Speaker 1: presented things that are very important to understand what is
[27:50] Speaker 1: outside the firmament, outside our atmosphere, because everything NASA has
[27:55] Speaker 1: given us is complete bullshit. And there's definitely something more
[28:02] Speaker 1: than any of the information that we've presented.
[28:06] Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on our cosmology?
[28:13] Speaker 3: We're living on a stationary plane. What it looks like,
[28:17] Speaker 3: I wish I could tell you. I don't have the map.
[28:20] Speaker 3: Does it go on forever and ever more than we
[28:23] Speaker 3: even think? I don't know. But until we have some
[28:26] Speaker 3: idea of the map, trying to figure out the motion
[28:29] Speaker 3: of things is nigh on impossible. And then when we
[28:33] Speaker 3: have ridiculous planned like the Antarctic nonsense, which I will
[28:39] Speaker 3: have nothing to do with. It just causes division. And
[28:44] Speaker 3: the problem is not even whether Flat Earth is right
[28:47] Speaker 3: or Globe Earth is right. The issue is we need
[28:51] Speaker 3: to not be divisive more than we ever have in
[28:54] Speaker 3: our existence. And they are causing division and they're doing
[28:59] Speaker 3: it on purpose. And all I can say is woe
[29:02] Speaker 3: to you. If you were involved in dividing people, over
[29:06] Speaker 3: such a silly thing that you can't prove one way
[29:09] Speaker 3: or the other. What I can tell you is it's
[29:11] Speaker 3: self-evident that we're not spinning. That's a fact. If people
[29:16] Speaker 3: don't want to believe it, then that's fine. The Creator
[29:19] Speaker 3: gave us all free will. You're entitled to that. It's
[29:22] Speaker 3: not my place to belittle you or try to fight
[29:26] Speaker 3: with you, to try to force you to believe what
[29:28] Speaker 3: I believe. And that's exactly what these communities have done.
[29:32] Speaker 3: The minute you form a group, If that group begins
[29:36] Speaker 3: to matter, it will be infiltrated by people who have
[29:39] Speaker 3: bad ideas at heart. And that is what has happened here.
[29:44] Speaker 3: And that is not allowed on my website. You bring
[29:47] Speaker 3: any of that nonsense in, I'll show you the door
[29:50] Speaker 3: quicker than you can put a period on the end
[29:52] Speaker 3: of your comment. The division that this has caused is devastating.
[29:57] Speaker 3: Because right now, the primary thing we need is people
[30:01] Speaker 3: to respect life, to respect each other. The new era
[30:07] Speaker 3: will have no room for this kind of divisive, nonsensical
[30:12] Speaker 3: hatred where I'm going to fight with you because you
[30:15] Speaker 3: won't think the way I think. And for all those
[30:18] Speaker 3: people out there causing it, I would point out, Not
[30:22] Speaker 3: only were you granted the divine spark of life from
[30:25] Speaker 3: on high, the greatest gift anyone could be granted, you
[30:28] Speaker 3: were granted free will, which means it ain't your business
[30:33] Speaker 3: what someone else is doing with their free will unless
[30:37] Speaker 3: they're harming. And if they're not harming them, what are
[30:40] Speaker 3: you guys on about? It's disappointing at a level that
[30:44] Speaker 3: I can't tell you and the baiting that's going on
[30:48] Speaker 3: and the putting words in the mouths of others and
[30:52] Speaker 3: trying to co-opt people into your side of the fight,
[30:55] Speaker 3: it's destructive. It's just destructive at a time when we
[30:59] Speaker 3: need to be a million miles away from stuff like that.
[31:03] Speaker 3: But to pull back around, I sent you a link
[31:06] Speaker 3: in the chat. If you click on that, I can
[31:09] Speaker 3: show you some of the images that I spent quite
[31:13] Speaker 3: a bit of time picking the best captures that I've had.
[31:17] Speaker 3: and producing them at a level, and then making some
[31:20] Speaker 3: of these files could be printed 20 feet wide if
[31:27] Speaker 3: you wanted to make a giant thing. And many of
[31:31] Speaker 3: the community at Crow777radio. com have printed them in beautiful ways
[31:37] Speaker 3: and sent me the images. Those are just the movie posters.
[31:40] Speaker 3: If you scroll down, So that weird one in the
[31:45] Speaker 3: middle is the moon shot in full spectrum. But these
[31:49] Speaker 3: are all the solar images. That's the moon in full spectrum.
[31:52] Speaker 3: So that's the dark side of the moon you can't
[31:55] Speaker 3: normally see with your eyes. But here's all the solar
[31:58] Speaker 3: stuff down below. Sunspots, quarter shots, full disc shots, close-ups
[32:04] Speaker 3: on the prominences. And there's one more page, too, you
[32:07] Speaker 3: can look at beyond. And so I put a very
[32:13] Speaker 3: inexpensive price on these so people could participate and at
[32:19] Speaker 3: the same time help me pay my bills for serving
[32:22] Speaker 3: private content because it's not cheap. And you can see
[32:25] Speaker 3: there's a black and white. That's what it looks like
[32:28] Speaker 3: before I put, before I choose a color that I
[32:31] Speaker 3: think helps you view it. That's what it looks like.
[32:35] Speaker 3: That's how it comes out of the camera once I've
[32:37] Speaker 3: processed it. Down in the lower left, there's a close-up
[32:41] Speaker 3: of a sunspot. But this is all on the website
[32:49] Speaker 3: and the community that's grown there that supports our ability
[32:53] Speaker 3: to have unfettered, non-censored free speech on a private server.
[33:00] Speaker 3: And for me to be able to make videos that
[33:02] Speaker 3: don't get messed with, it's a big deal. Because everywhere
[33:07] Speaker 3: I've ever tried to post, I've been censored. I've had
[33:11] Speaker 3: stuff deleted. Get this, years after I posted something, the
[33:17] Speaker 3: first lunar wave to YouTube back in the day, I
[33:20] Speaker 3: got an email where they informed me that they claimed
[33:22] Speaker 3: partial ownership on every video I'd ever uploaded there and
[33:26] Speaker 3: that they had the right to do whatever they wanted
[33:28] Speaker 3: with it. Wow. That must have been about 20... It
[33:34] Speaker 3: was right around the time of Sandy Hoax where the
[33:38] Speaker 3: internet was just ripping that to shreds before all that
[33:43] Speaker 3: content got deleted. So that means the first lunar wave,
[33:48] Speaker 3: which I uploaded there, they're claiming the right to be
[33:51] Speaker 3: able to do whatever they want with that. I will
[33:54] Speaker 3: no longer agree to these greedy, self-important systems. And so
[34:02] Speaker 3: the private server is a big, big deal. But I
[34:04] Speaker 3: wanted to mention, if you want to know the truth,
[34:09] Speaker 3: about where we live. Unfortunately, I can't give you a map,
[34:12] Speaker 3: but I can tell you there's landmasses you've never heard of.
[34:16] Speaker 3: There's a movie from 1963 from Walt Disney called Sword
[34:22] Speaker 3: in the Stone, where the brilliant owl Archimedes, who's like
[34:27] Speaker 3: the smartest little character in the movie and hangs out
[34:30] Speaker 3: with the wizard there, tells you what happened. to the
[34:36] Speaker 3: flat earth that was well known, to the non-rotating stationary
[34:40] Speaker 3: plane I told you is where we exist, was swapped
[34:44] Speaker 3: out with the spinning, put your mind in a spin
[34:47] Speaker 3: so you're never stable ever again. It's in that movie.
[34:51] Speaker 3: There's a conversation where young Arthur is told, you got
[34:55] Speaker 3: to forget all these old things that we knew were
[34:57] Speaker 3: true and make way for the new ideas. And it's
[35:01] Speaker 3: in there if you want to go see. They're telling
[35:03] Speaker 3: you the truth. Unfortunately, there's no map that goes with it.
[35:07] Speaker 3: But again, we all have free will. So if someone
[35:10] Speaker 3: you know doesn't agree with you and you choose to
[35:14] Speaker 3: treat them badly or treat them differently, then you are
[35:17] Speaker 3: the problem. Because right now we have to come together
[35:23] Speaker 3: or we are going to deal with some dark, dark
[35:26] Speaker 3: stuff before we get rid of the controlling powers of
[35:30] Speaker 3: this place.
[35:32] Speaker 2: You mentioned the lunar wave.
[35:34] Speaker 1: Has there been any updates to your work or research
[35:37] Speaker 1: with this?
[35:42] Speaker 3: At some point, I was becoming the center of all
[35:45] Speaker 3: lunar waves, which shouldn't be. People should go out and
[35:50] Speaker 3: film and do their thing and learn what they can learn.
[35:53] Speaker 3: And it got to the point where everything that got
[35:55] Speaker 3: filmed kept getting sent to me like I had the
[35:57] Speaker 3: power to authenticate it. So I just stepped away from
[36:02] Speaker 3: all that. You know, I don't join groups. I do
[36:05] Speaker 3: all my own work. I share what I can share.
[36:09] Speaker 3: But if I film the second son, it doesn't make
[36:14] Speaker 3: me the instant god of all knowledge about the second son.
[36:20] Speaker 3: Everyone else should be out there filming if they have
[36:22] Speaker 3: an interest and learning what they can learn and sharing
[36:25] Speaker 3: so that others can take it farther. I mean, I
[36:28] Speaker 3: can help. I can offer what I think is correct,
[36:32] Speaker 3: but we've got to move away from, oh, this is
[36:35] Speaker 3: the first person who did it, so that's the authority.
[36:39] Speaker 3: That's really not the way it works. The authority is
[36:42] Speaker 3: the truth. And I can't make up the truth. I
[36:45] Speaker 3: can only recognize it. And if I fail to recognize it,
[36:49] Speaker 3: the truth is still the truth.
[36:52] Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you would like to mention
[36:55] Speaker 1: about the sun or your work with that before we
[36:58] Speaker 1: move on?
[37:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very good time to go out and
[37:05] Speaker 3: pay attention to the light of this world, the thing
[37:08] Speaker 3: that gives us all the energy and allows the plants
[37:11] Speaker 3: to grow and allows you to not experience nighttime 24
[37:16] Speaker 3: hours a day. And give thanks and appreciate it. And
[37:20] Speaker 3: get by this idea that somehow if you appreciate the sun,
[37:23] Speaker 3: you're an evil sun worshiper. Because this creation, where we
[37:29] Speaker 3: were granted the divine spark of life, that's part of it.
[37:32] Speaker 3: When you look up at night, all of that is
[37:35] Speaker 3: part of it. And we've been taught to think wrong
[37:38] Speaker 3: things about it or to shame people who paid attention
[37:43] Speaker 3: to it, like they're an evil sun worshiper. All these
[37:47] Speaker 3: low vibrational ideas, you should cast them aside. and appreciate
[37:51] Speaker 3: it for what it is. It's allowing life to go
[37:54] Speaker 3: on here. And right now, it's bumping our consciousness up
[37:59] Speaker 3: as the powers that be do everything in their power
[38:02] Speaker 3: to fly 24-7 with an unlimited budget, filling the skies
[38:08] Speaker 3: with salts and metal particulates designed to scatter that energy
[38:13] Speaker 3: that is meant for you and me. Yeah, 100%.
[38:15] Speaker 1: And I have not seen a decrease in in those
[38:21] Speaker 1: activities of them spraying the shit in the skies. So
[38:25] Speaker 1: there's another thing that yet continues to happen. But for
[38:30] Speaker 1: the last half of the show, I'd love to hear
[38:34] Speaker 1: a little bit about your conversations with a gentleman that
[38:38] Speaker 1: claims to be St. Germain.
[38:40] Speaker 2: Very convincingly, I might add.
[38:44] Speaker 3: Well, let me make a correction. Sure. He's not claiming
[38:49] Speaker 3: to be the historical Saint Germain. What he is, is
[38:53] Speaker 3: the oldest living male of the family line, making him
[38:58] Speaker 3: head of that line. He is not 700 years old
[39:02] Speaker 3: or whatever. That's not what we're doing here. Right on.
[39:05] Speaker 1: The conversations that I have heard with this gentleman are
[39:10] Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating, and he seems to know things that... He
[39:15] Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to know, to say the least. So
[39:19] Speaker 1: I'd love to hear how you came across this gentleman.
[39:26] Speaker 3: Some years ago, I was in a podcast. and I
[39:32] Speaker 3: was talking about the old alchemical idea or even the
[39:37] Speaker 3: old guild idea that when you're ready for a teacher,
[39:40] Speaker 3: if you ask, one will come. And so on the air,
[39:44] Speaker 3: I did that thing. And I don't know, a couple, two,
[39:47] Speaker 3: three days later, I got an email saying, And I
[39:50] Speaker 3: get hundreds of emails a day, but for whatever reason,
[39:53] Speaker 3: I recognized that that was one I should pay attention to.
[39:57] Speaker 3: And that's how I met Fortune.
[40:02] Speaker 2: And that's what he goes by as Fortune?
[40:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:07] Speaker 1: I'd love to hear a little bit about how the
[40:11] Speaker 1: relationship progressed and what he offered and why he reached
[40:17] Speaker 1: out to you.
[40:20] Speaker 3: I asked if there was any true alchemists at the
[40:23] Speaker 3: time I was studying versions of alchemy directly related to
[40:27] Speaker 3: the idea of spagyrics, which is basically making remedies that
[40:31] Speaker 3: actually heal you out of plants, which was the alchemy
[40:36] Speaker 3: of the plant kingdom called spagyrics. And I can only
[40:41] Speaker 3: say so much about this because it's not, because other
[40:46] Speaker 3: people that are suffering would hear what I say and
[40:49] Speaker 3: I don't have a way to offer them help so
[40:53] Speaker 3: i can't but he ended up curing me of a
[40:57] Speaker 3: thing that's not supposed to be curable wow.
[41:01] Speaker 2: That's incredible and he.
[41:04] Speaker 3: Did it with spagyrics what.
[41:06] Speaker 1: Kind of information has he presented about some of the
[41:11] Speaker 1: things that we're discussing today rising consciousness What is behind
[41:16] Speaker 1: some of the nefarious things that we're experiencing? Maybe a
[41:21] Speaker 1: couple of the most profound things that you can talk about.
[41:27] Speaker 3: He has an encyclopedic knowledge of events. I mean, it's unbelievable,
[41:36] Speaker 3: the encyclopedic knowledge he has. And this goes all the
[41:41] Speaker 3: way back in time, like you could ask him anything
[41:43] Speaker 3: about supposed ancient Rome. You've got to realize the man
[41:48] Speaker 3: is not only a count, he's a marquee as well,
[41:51] Speaker 3: which is actually a little higher rank. But he's in
[41:58] Speaker 3: a group of people where he's not like that. He
[42:02] Speaker 3: doesn't agree with what's going on in the world today.
[42:05] Speaker 3: where I would imagine a lot of people that are
[42:07] Speaker 3: at that rank of aristocracy, maybe they're benefiting from this
[42:11] Speaker 3: or participating. I really don't have a way to know,
[42:14] Speaker 3: but he's dead set against it, does not appreciate what's
[42:19] Speaker 3: happening here. He is clairvoyant at a level, and he
[42:29] Speaker 3: looks younger than me, though he's quite a bit older
[42:33] Speaker 3: than me.
[42:35] Speaker 1: Has he presented any information that would help us explain
[42:42] Speaker 1: the nature of our reality as it relates to the afterlife,
[42:49] Speaker 1: what lies beyond our perception, angels, demons, intelligences?
[42:57] Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't take a lot of time with things
[43:01] Speaker 3: like demons that are negative. But when you check out here,
[43:10] Speaker 3: one of the ideas that's been shared is that if
[43:13] Speaker 3: you go into the light, and this is not universal,
[43:20] Speaker 3: but if you are seduced into a light, you may
[43:23] Speaker 3: simply be getting in line to come back here. If
[43:27] Speaker 3: you go away from the light and find yourself in
[43:29] Speaker 3: absolute darkness and you're not afraid, which is key, I
[43:35] Speaker 3: mean key, key, key, then you can begin to create.
[43:42] Speaker 3: There's all kinds of ideas around this, but I can't
[43:46] Speaker 3: really offer much more because I'm not the authority. I
[43:50] Speaker 3: just know what's been shared with me, and I mention
[43:54] Speaker 3: it because shedding fear is a very important big deal,
[43:58] Speaker 3: particularly for this new era. Because so much of what
[44:02] Speaker 3: goes on here that's not helpful is based in fear.
[44:06] Speaker 3: To include the social engineering almost always has a fear
[44:12] Speaker 3: component attached to it.
[44:15] Speaker 1: We discussed briefly about the effects that this second sun
[44:20] Speaker 1: has and the rising consciousness. We just talked a little
[44:25] Speaker 1: bit about the animals. But for humans, what could we
[44:29] Speaker 1: expect here? as this unfolds, as it relates to our
[44:33] Speaker 1: consciousness potential, our intuition, the abilities that may be dormant?
[44:41] Speaker 3: It'll appear as magic. If we saw it now, it
[44:45] Speaker 3: would be no different than showing someone a cell phone
[44:49] Speaker 3: who was living in a cave hundreds and hundreds of
[44:52] Speaker 3: years ago. It would seem just like utter magic. When
[44:57] Speaker 3: we get forward, into the uplifting higher consciousness era. We
[45:03] Speaker 3: won't need cell phones for one thing. We will be
[45:07] Speaker 3: able to manifest the things we need. There won't be
[45:11] Speaker 3: this idea of working all day to scrape, to pay bills.
[45:16] Speaker 3: All that will be low vibrational systems of the past.
[45:22] Speaker 3: What human beings can accomplish at the higher spiritual levels
[45:27] Speaker 3: is astonishing to almost to the point of I don't
[45:30] Speaker 3: know that there's any limit. And most of us have
[45:34] Speaker 3: heard about such things, like the magical yogi who lived
[45:39] Speaker 3: in Indiana mountaintop somewhere, but we didn't take it seriously.
[45:43] Speaker 3: And a lot of it is like a folk tale
[45:46] Speaker 3: or obviously exaggerated. But if you look around, there are
[45:50] Speaker 3: plenty of accounts of what a highly spiritualized human being
[45:56] Speaker 3: can accomplish. And it's beyond magical, or what we would
[46:00] Speaker 3: consider magical.
[46:02] Speaker 1: As you know, every movement that humanity has that is
[46:08] Speaker 1: initially beneficial, if it's not manufactured to begin with, is
[46:13] Speaker 1: eventually infiltrated and co-opted and used against us. And I
[46:19] Speaker 1: think the same has occurred within the quote-unquote truth communities,
[46:24] Speaker 1: the spiritual communities. And there's a lot of good information,
[46:29] Speaker 1: but it's also sprinkled with complete bullshit, crazy, stupid ideas
[46:34] Speaker 1: that get gets mixed in with the truth to where
[46:38] Speaker 1: whenever a person discusses this stuff, they are looked at
[46:42] Speaker 1: like they're absolutely nuts.
[46:46] Speaker 3: Well, this is the reason why I don't join groups,
[46:49] Speaker 3: because when you do that, if the group matters, it'll
[46:52] Speaker 3: become a target for infiltration and exactly what you described
[46:55] Speaker 3: will go on. But the thing about arising consciousness is
[47:01] Speaker 3: the further on the path you get away from the
[47:06] Speaker 3: low vibrational systems we're all used to, your BS detector
[47:10] Speaker 3: comes online. And while you might not know everything you
[47:15] Speaker 3: want to know, you will in fact understand with just
[47:19] Speaker 3: a syllable or a sentence that this is not anything
[47:22] Speaker 3: for me. This is something to be ignored or cast
[47:26] Speaker 3: aside And we still exist in the era where many
[47:31] Speaker 3: people still feel like they need someone to tell them
[47:34] Speaker 3: if this is correct or it's not correct. We're moving
[47:37] Speaker 3: past this kind of living. You know, in the not
[47:43] Speaker 3: too distant future, we won't need to feel like I've
[47:46] Speaker 3: got to ask somebody who knows because I'll be able
[47:49] Speaker 3: to detect on my own, at least at some level,
[47:52] Speaker 3: whether there's value here or whether I should walk away
[47:55] Speaker 3: from it. Now, the people that are very far down
[47:58] Speaker 3: the road raising their consciousness, they will probably know a
[48:02] Speaker 3: lot more, the details to some degree. For me, I'm
[48:06] Speaker 3: very good at detecting what seems like nonsense with very
[48:09] Speaker 3: little information. But again, it doesn't give me a map
[48:13] Speaker 3: of the world or a lot of the things I'd
[48:15] Speaker 3: like to know, but it does give me enough to
[48:18] Speaker 3: know that I shouldn't waste my time with this. And
[48:21] Speaker 3: what that does in the long run is it gives
[48:24] Speaker 3: you clear boundaries of where you don't really want to
[48:27] Speaker 3: waste your time. I'm not going to that channel or
[48:30] Speaker 3: I'm not listening to TV or I'm not, you know,
[48:34] Speaker 3: you know better because it spews nonsense and it's self-evident.
[48:38] Speaker 3: And so it's important that people begin to assess things
[48:42] Speaker 3: on their own to determine for themselves, does this seem
[48:47] Speaker 3: like it's worthwhile or is the fact that I'm questioning
[48:50] Speaker 3: it in the first place a good reason to walk away?
[48:54] Speaker 3: And what you also find is people adopt their favorite
[48:59] Speaker 3: channel or their favorite source and then they defend those
[49:02] Speaker 3: ideas and they measure all new information against those ideas.
[49:08] Speaker 3: And that kind of thinking needs to be modified as
[49:12] Speaker 3: well because it's better to move along and accept what
[49:20] Speaker 3: you think is acceptable, but be ready to upgrade it
[49:23] Speaker 3: the moment you know new things that allow you to
[49:26] Speaker 3: move beyond that level. Don't keep latching on and defending
[49:30] Speaker 3: this thing that you liked or that you had adopted
[49:33] Speaker 3: because with new information, it gives you the ability to
[49:36] Speaker 3: go a little further on down the road. instead of
[49:39] Speaker 3: being stuck defending these old ideas that you've acquired and accepted.
[49:45] Speaker 1: More and more people are starting to become aware that
[49:51] Speaker 1: almost all of our systems have been weaponized and used
[49:54] Speaker 1: against us, including religion. And this is something that has
[49:59] Speaker 1: been since the earliest of times, it has been used
[50:03] Speaker 1: to control us. But what I see now that correlates
[50:08] Speaker 1: to that, the use of religion for control, it seems
[50:12] Speaker 1: like behind everything that is unfolding politically, geopolitically, that people
[50:19] Speaker 1: pay attention to, is correlating with this biblical prophecy, this
[50:25] Speaker 1: biblical playbook that seems to be unfolding. And I think
[50:30] Speaker 1: dogma destroys worlds. I think that It holds people back
[50:35] Speaker 1: from their true potential, and it keeps us enslaved. What
[50:40] Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the use of a Revelations biblical
[50:44] Speaker 1: playbook to achieve what is going to be rolled out?
[50:51] Speaker 3: Well, if someone wanted to do that, it would be
[50:53] Speaker 3: a very easy way to get the attention of people
[50:55] Speaker 3: who are already familiar with that. But for me, religion
[51:00] Speaker 3: is very different from my spiritual path. religion is a
[51:05] Speaker 3: finite thing and it adopts the group mentality and it
[51:08] Speaker 3: makes rules and it does all these things my spirituality
[51:12] Speaker 3: has no limit and it's outside of the idea of
[51:16] Speaker 3: religion and as far as the using people's you know
[51:23] Speaker 3: big religions where a lot of people are invested in
[51:25] Speaker 3: that of course they're going to mirror those ideas to
[51:29] Speaker 3: try to coerce them in one way or another and
[51:31] Speaker 3: by the way do I need to remind anyone that
[51:34] Speaker 3: through the entirety of history, if you look for the
[51:37] Speaker 3: top dog, that's going to be a priest. They've always
[51:42] Speaker 3: held the power.
[51:44] Speaker 1: And one more thing I want to get your thoughts
[51:45] Speaker 1: on before we close out is the quote-unquote disclosure movement,
[51:51] Speaker 1: the ups and downs with the information being presented, and
[51:56] Speaker 1: what could be behind the theatrics and what is really happening,
[52:00] Speaker 1: because my perspective understanding of extraterrestrials is not little green
[52:07] Speaker 1: men coming from different planets, probably more of a spiritual
[52:11] Speaker 1: consciousness phenomenon, but what are your thoughts on what's happening there?
[52:19] Speaker 3: We're not the only life forms. You can look through
[52:22] Speaker 3: the historical records of any culture, and they will talk
[52:25] Speaker 3: about everything from angels to divas to dakinis. There's been
[52:32] Speaker 3: a million ways That people in meditation or people with
[52:36] Speaker 3: their high spiritual attunement will tell you flat out, I
[52:39] Speaker 3: have this teacher who taught me and it's not a
[52:42] Speaker 3: human being. That's a given. You mentioned something earlier about
[52:46] Speaker 3: the space agencies and that's where the problem comes in.
[52:50] Speaker 3: Space agencies were put here to try to ensure that
[52:54] Speaker 3: you don't know anything about what's above your head. And
[52:57] Speaker 3: they're all in it together. And it doesn't matter if
[53:00] Speaker 3: it's Iran Space Agency or someone else because people think, well,
[53:03] Speaker 3: they're not even friends. It doesn't work that way. There's
[53:06] Speaker 3: a higher power over such things as governments. And they
[53:11] Speaker 3: have convinced you that you're living on a thing that
[53:14] Speaker 3: spins faster than a. 30- 06 rifle bullet. And they've done
[53:19] Speaker 3: a lot of things. And part of that has been
[53:21] Speaker 3: to normalize this idea of what Hollywood has sunk in.
[53:25] Speaker 3: It is an alien. And in that, they have normalized
[53:29] Speaker 3: that they came through enormous amounts of space to get here.
[53:35] Speaker 3: All these things are just meant to mess with your mind.
[53:38] Speaker 3: From my point of view, the sun is not 93
[53:41] Speaker 3: million miles away. It's right here. It's part of our system.
[53:45] Speaker 3: The moon is not over a quarter of a million
[53:47] Speaker 3: miles away. Can I see something that's over a quarter
[53:50] Speaker 3: of a million miles? I mean, use common sense. There's
[53:53] Speaker 3: a white crater that they claim is 40 miles wide.
[53:56] Speaker 3: Supposedly I can see that with my naked eye at 340,000 miles.
[54:03] Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. But whether you choose to accept that or not,
[54:08] Speaker 3: the disclosure, and this goes into the government, oh, we're
[54:11] Speaker 3: going to release JFK and we're going to release, there's
[54:14] Speaker 3: a thing called revelation of method. And when the point
[54:18] Speaker 3: comes where they do disclose the truth about these things,
[54:22] Speaker 3: that will be the end of an alchemical procedure that worked.
[54:26] Speaker 3: to transmute your mind into a fantasy-based reality. So whether
[54:31] Speaker 3: or not you ever get the truth of it, it
[54:34] Speaker 3: was all done as a control mechanism. And we should
[54:38] Speaker 3: be less worried with disclosure and more worried, not worried,
[54:43] Speaker 3: but more in putting more effort towards the raising and
[54:49] Speaker 3: respect for living things that has been denied. Our consciousness
[54:55] Speaker 3: shift has been messed with and blocked to the degree
[54:59] Speaker 3: that it can be. Our freedoms have been messed with
[55:03] Speaker 3: to the degree that they can be. Our life and
[55:07] Speaker 3: what we do in our life has been messed with
[55:09] Speaker 3: to the degree that they can be. It's time for
[55:12] Speaker 3: all that to begin to disintegrate. And so are there
[55:16] Speaker 3: other life forms? Well, I know one thing for sure.
[55:19] Speaker 3: If I see a baby rabbit, I absolutely know there's
[55:22] Speaker 3: more rabbits. If I see rabbits and bears and lizards,
[55:26] Speaker 3: I know there's all kinds of life. And I would
[55:28] Speaker 3: be a fool to assume that I am the only
[55:32] Speaker 3: highly conscious life. As a matter of fact, there are
[55:35] Speaker 3: creatures living in this world that are in different ways
[55:39] Speaker 3: just as intelligent as you are. Most of them live
[55:42] Speaker 3: in the ocean.
[55:43] Speaker 1: This is great information, Crow. Is there any final thoughts
[55:47] Speaker 1: that you'd like to leave the audience before we close out?
[55:53] Speaker 3: It is critically important that you recognize that the old
[55:58] Speaker 3: world and the low vibrational systems that have caused us
[56:01] Speaker 3: so much hardship over our lifetimes of those of our
[56:05] Speaker 3: parents and grandparents, where it really started slipping because it
[56:09] Speaker 3: was my grandparents, where the oppression started to pick up steam.
[56:14] Speaker 3: And my parents' life, about halfway through, the chess pieces
[56:17] Speaker 3: started moving. Then in 63, where my life begins, it
[56:21] Speaker 3: went into high gear. with the JFK consciousness shifting event.
[56:30] Speaker 3: It is critically important to start recognizing the value of
[56:34] Speaker 3: all living things and to begin to raise your vibration level,
[56:40] Speaker 3: fill your heart with love, treat people and living things
[56:43] Speaker 3: with respect, and don't be vindictive and vengeful. You may
[56:48] Speaker 3: be upset with what's been done, but those people are
[56:51] Speaker 3: going to lose their spot in the long run. The
[56:54] Speaker 3: systems that they're clutching onto are going to disintegrate and
[56:58] Speaker 3: either split off into some hellscape compared to where we're
[57:02] Speaker 3: going to be, or they'll just cease to be. It
[57:06] Speaker 3: is critically important that we move forward in a way
[57:09] Speaker 3: that represents a way we want to live, where we
[57:13] Speaker 3: can have good lives, decent lives, where we can raise
[57:17] Speaker 3: children who have hope and love in their heart And
[57:20] Speaker 3: don't have to be concerned with ridiculous things like checking
[57:24] Speaker 3: into a job for most of your life, then giving
[57:26] Speaker 3: half the money away as the price of everything you
[57:29] Speaker 3: need to survive goes through the roof. These old systems
[57:33] Speaker 3: need to go now, and our consciousness needs to shift
[57:37] Speaker 3: to match the promising future that is now becoming available.
[57:42] Speaker 2: Right on.
[57:43] Speaker 1: Very well said. Crow, thank you so much again. We
[57:46] Speaker 1: will definitely do this again in the future. I will
[57:49] Speaker 1: have all your links easily accessible for the audience right
[57:53] Speaker 1: in the description. And until next time, everyone, have an
[57:56] Speaker 1: excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow.
[57:59] Speaker 2: And we'll see you all then.
[58:05] Speaker 1: The nature of this experience seems to always be just
[58:09] Speaker 1: beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
[58:14] Speaker 1: Today I want to welcome Ed Mabry. He is a
[58:17] Speaker 1: truth seeker, researcher, and Christian. He started blogging on his
[58:21] Speaker 1: website faithbyreason.net in 2010 and added podcasts in 2017 to
[58:28] Speaker 1: help truth seekers understand and examine Christian philosophy using logic,
[58:34] Speaker 1: Reason and Systematic Analysis.
[58:37] Speaker 2: Ed, welcome. How you doing?
[58:39] Speaker 4: I am good. Thanks for asking, and thank you for
[58:42] Speaker 4: having me on your show. I really appreciate it.
[58:44] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on.
[58:46] Speaker 1: I love your work. Can't wait to get into this. Today,
[58:48] Speaker 1: we're going to explore the predictive and parasitic programming that
[58:52] Speaker 1: attempts to steer the collective into a technological nightmare reality,
[58:59] Speaker 1: which seems to be void of all spiritual connection to
[59:02] Speaker 1: source or God. And you have an insightful approach to
[59:06] Speaker 1: your research into conspiracy and spirituality based on your understanding
[59:11] Speaker 1: of biblical concepts. And there's a lot to discuss surrounding this.
[59:16] Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting into this. You've done some
[59:18] Speaker 1: great work. Before we do that, for the audience that
[59:21] Speaker 1: may not be familiar, let them know more about yourself
[59:25] Speaker 1: and what brought you to your work.
[59:28] Speaker 4: Sure, I'd be happy to. So my name is Ed Mabry.
[59:31] Speaker 4: I am a researcher, a truth seeker, and a Christian,
[59:34] Speaker 4: as I say, in that order, because I believe that
[59:36] Speaker 4: the first two will lead you to that. So obviously,
[59:38] Speaker 4: I'm a Christian. I've been a Christian for most of
[59:41] Speaker 4: my life. I will say that I've always had an
[59:44] Speaker 4: inquisitive mind. I've always been a truth seeker to some degree,
[59:47] Speaker 4: even from as a child. I was always asking why.
[59:49] Speaker 4: That thing my dad would tell you that my first
[59:51] Speaker 4: words were, why, dad? So I always want to know
[59:54] Speaker 4: the reasons for things. So, you know, I grew up
[59:56] Speaker 4: in the church and I would always ask why, you know,
[59:59] Speaker 4: why was Jesus born of a virgin or how, or
[1:00:02] Speaker 4: why did God flood the earth and wipe out all
[1:00:05] Speaker 4: of humanity? And eventually they kind of got tired of
[1:00:09] Speaker 4: hearing me ask all these questions, getting all these questions
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: from my kid. So they just eventually said, you know what?
[1:00:14] Speaker 4: It's not right to question God. And I was like, oh, okay, well,
[1:00:17] Speaker 4: I don't want to anger God. So I'll just stop
[1:00:19] Speaker 4: asking questions. And so unfortunately what that led to is
[1:00:23] Speaker 4: as I grew older, I never challenged my faith seriously,
[1:00:26] Speaker 4: and I never had it challenged because of the community
[1:00:28] Speaker 4: I was raised in was pretty religious. But then when
[1:00:32] Speaker 4: I got to college, I was challenged tremendously. I went
[1:00:35] Speaker 4: to a secular university. Again, I wasn't expecting to be
[1:00:39] Speaker 4: having my religion promoted, but I wasn't expecting how hostile
[1:00:43] Speaker 4: that professors and my peers would be towards my beliefs.
[1:00:47] Speaker 4: And they challenged me. I wasn't prepared for those challenges.
[1:00:50] Speaker 4: And it kind of took me down a road where
[1:00:52] Speaker 4: I started questioning things. Now, I didn't question the existence
[1:00:55] Speaker 4: of God because I knew that there had to be
[1:00:57] Speaker 4: a creator. The idea of spontaneous generation of life from
[1:01:02] Speaker 4: non-life and evolution in itself just never rang true to me.
[1:01:06] Speaker 4: I mean, it actually went against what I knew from
[1:01:08] Speaker 4: actual science. Like, you know, it violates all three laws
[1:01:11] Speaker 4: of thermodynamics. So I knew that couldn't be true. But
[1:01:15] Speaker 4: what I questioned was what I was taught about God
[1:01:18] Speaker 4: and what I was told about the creator. And that
[1:01:21] Speaker 4: led me on a journey, especially through my 20s, where
[1:01:24] Speaker 4: I was exploring different areas, different religions. I was just
[1:01:26] Speaker 4: trying to find truth. And that search led me back
[1:01:30] Speaker 4: to my Judeo-Christian faith because I learned a couple of things.
[1:01:35] Speaker 4: One is that God can be understood to the degree
[1:01:39] Speaker 4: that we're capable in our human minds. Not only that,
[1:01:43] Speaker 4: but that he wants to be understood, which makes sense
[1:01:46] Speaker 4: if God, if our creator is an intelligent entity that
[1:01:49] Speaker 4: created other intelligent beings, you wouldn't create something intelligence and
[1:01:53] Speaker 4: didn't say, okay, now I'm not going to reveal anything
[1:01:55] Speaker 4: about myself. So I believe that God delights in being
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: known and he's given us avenues to know him. And
[1:02:01] Speaker 4: I've learned a great deal. And one day I just said,
[1:02:04] Speaker 4: you know what? I need to share this. I can't
[1:02:07] Speaker 4: just keep everything to myself. And so I started my website, faithbyreason.net,
[1:02:14] Speaker 4: in order to help my fellow Christians and anyone else
[1:02:17] Speaker 4: who's just interested kind of understand why our faith actually
[1:02:21] Speaker 4: works with logic and reason. And I use systematic analysis.
[1:02:26] Speaker 4: I'm a systems thinker. And I wanted to use that
[1:02:29] Speaker 4: type of analytical approach to examine my faith, examine all
[1:02:33] Speaker 4: the concepts and doctrines of the Judeo-Christian faith, and combine
[1:02:37] Speaker 4: that with being a truther, being a truth seeker, being
[1:02:40] Speaker 4: a conspiracy theorist, and just bringing all that together. Because
[1:02:43] Speaker 4: I don't think you have to divorce your faith from
[1:02:46] Speaker 4: your reason. Because, I mean, logical faith, not blind faith.
[1:02:50] Speaker 4: I'm not advocating that. And neither does the God of
[1:02:52] Speaker 4: the Bible. He never said, believe what I say just because.
[1:02:55] Speaker 4: There's always a reason. So logical faith is faith that's
[1:02:59] Speaker 4: based on knowledge and experience. Either you know it because
[1:03:03] Speaker 4: you've been told or you've experienced it. And that's the
[1:03:05] Speaker 4: faith that the God of the Bible demands. So there's
[1:03:07] Speaker 4: no divorce between faith and reason. And that's really what
[1:03:10] Speaker 4: my website and what I do is all about, helping
[1:03:13] Speaker 4: Christians understand their faith, why it makes sense.
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: Excellent.
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: Great introduction. Now, I want to start with how the events...
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: of 2020 and beyond affected your outlook and understanding of
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: what is going on behind our perception with the control systems,
[1:03:35] Speaker 1: with the nature of reality, has it solidified your understandings?
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: Has it updated or changed anything? How has that affected
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: you since 2020? Sure.
[1:03:45] Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I'm a systems thinker. So when I, uh,
[1:03:51] Speaker 4: Try to follow along the lines of Dr. Acuff, who's like,
[1:03:54] Speaker 4: you know, he passed away a while back, but he
[1:03:57] Speaker 4: is like the father of systems thinking. And the way
[1:03:59] Speaker 4: you understand a bigger system is by getting down to
[1:04:02] Speaker 4: the core, getting down to the origins. I think one
[1:04:06] Speaker 4: of the issues that truth seekers, conspiracy theorists have, myself included,
[1:04:11] Speaker 4: is that we spend a lot of time looking at
[1:04:12] Speaker 4: the symptoms and not so much at the causes. So
[1:04:16] Speaker 4: we'll get into, you know, conservative versus liberal issues. you know,
[1:04:20] Speaker 4: all these different symptoms in these areas, you know, defund
[1:04:25] Speaker 4: the police or whatever you want to talk about. We
[1:04:29] Speaker 4: look at how it affects us on a day-to-day basis,
[1:04:32] Speaker 4: but we don't take a step back and look at
[1:04:33] Speaker 4: the bigger picture. So I try to do that. And
[1:04:36] Speaker 4: that's what I want to do today during this show.
[1:04:38] Speaker 4: But to answer your specific question about 2020 and obviously
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: everything that went on there, what really rang true for
[1:04:45] Speaker 4: me there, I want to take a step back. I mean,
[1:04:47] Speaker 4: we have this so-called pandemic. that affected the world like
[1:04:51] Speaker 4: probably nothing else has, maybe since 9-11, or maybe even earlier,
[1:04:55] Speaker 4: since it was a worldwide effect. What's behind it? If
[1:04:58] Speaker 4: you remember the movie JFK by Oliver Stone, like a
[1:05:02] Speaker 4: few decades ago, God, I'm aging myself. But one of
[1:05:06] Speaker 4: the characters, I think it was Donald Sutherland's character, when
[1:05:08] Speaker 4: he was talking to Kevin Costner, who was playing, what
[1:05:12] Speaker 4: was the name of the- Garrison, thank you. He said,
[1:05:16] Speaker 4: you don't have to ask yourself any questions. Who could
[1:05:18] Speaker 4: do this? Who had the power behind it? And who benefits?
[1:05:22] Speaker 4: Those are the questions I like to ask. And so
[1:05:24] Speaker 4: when I looked at what was going on in 2020
[1:05:27] Speaker 4: in the next couple of years, I looked at it
[1:05:29] Speaker 4: from that big picture standpoint, the spiritual standpoint. Who has
[1:05:31] Speaker 4: the power spiritually behind this to make it happen? And
[1:05:34] Speaker 4: how will they benefit? And currently on my YouTube channel, faithbyreason.net
[1:05:39] Speaker 4: is my website. And I also have a YouTube channel,
[1:05:42] Speaker 4: which I'm sure there'll be links to in show notes.
[1:05:46] Speaker 4: I'm doing a series on the book of Revelation, which
[1:05:48] Speaker 4: I'm almost done with actually. I'm actually at the last
[1:05:50] Speaker 4: couple of chapters. And I look at the, I think
[1:05:55] Speaker 4: the next major event on our horizon from a prophetic
[1:05:58] Speaker 4: standpoint is going to be two things. I think one
[1:06:01] Speaker 4: is the so-called rapture, and that's a whole other topic
[1:06:04] Speaker 4: that we can get into another time. But after that,
[1:06:08] Speaker 4: chapter 6 of Revelation talks about the four horsemen of
[1:06:11] Speaker 4: the apocalypse. I think even if you're not a Christian,
[1:06:13] Speaker 4: you've heard that terminology. And I think that when those
[1:06:17] Speaker 4: things happen, they're going to be devastating. But what I've
[1:06:21] Speaker 4: learned about God is that he doesn't just bring things
[1:06:25] Speaker 4: on us out of nowhere. He gives us preparation. He allows,
[1:06:29] Speaker 4: it's almost like dress rehearsals. And what I saw, what
[1:06:33] Speaker 4: I've seen in the last, I would say maybe 10,
[1:06:34] Speaker 4: 15 years, I've seen dress rehearsals for all four horsemen.
[1:06:37] Speaker 4: The first horseman is the so-called Antichrist. You know, this
[1:06:43] Speaker 4: leader who's going to, you know, lead the world. He's
[1:06:45] Speaker 4: going to come across as a very charismatic at first,
[1:06:47] Speaker 4: and he's going to lead things to destruction. And I'm
[1:06:50] Speaker 4: not saying that like Obama's the antichrist. I don't believe that.
[1:06:52] Speaker 4: I don't think he's smart enough to be the antichrist.
[1:06:55] Speaker 4: But I mean, we have this figure who comes along
[1:06:57] Speaker 4: who has a messianic aspect to him. Then the next horseman,
[1:07:02] Speaker 4: we had a war or actually basically humans taking each
[1:07:06] Speaker 4: other's lives. And you can look at, you know, the
[1:07:09] Speaker 4: wars you've been involved in, like the wars that follow
[1:07:13] Speaker 4: 9-11 and things like that. I mean, it's a little
[1:07:14] Speaker 4: bit out of order, but still you have those two things.
[1:07:17] Speaker 4: Then you have the black horse, black horseman which is
[1:07:21] Speaker 4: basically it's called he's called famine but what he actually
[1:07:25] Speaker 4: is it's economic famine it's it's not a shortage of
[1:07:29] Speaker 4: food it's a shortage of resources and you can look
[1:07:32] Speaker 4: at the 2008 uh financial crisis as maybe a precursor
[1:07:36] Speaker 4: to that then the final horseman the horseman called death
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: um he brings death through pestilence among other things So
[1:07:45] Speaker 4: I think that it could have been that 2020 may
[1:07:48] Speaker 4: have been a precursor, a dress rehearsal for that final horseman,
[1:07:54] Speaker 4: because that was pestilence. That was a worldwide pandemic. But
[1:07:59] Speaker 4: what I think it showed the spiritual evil is that
[1:08:03] Speaker 4: if you bring on a crisis that is galvanizing enough,
[1:08:07] Speaker 4: you can get people to do anything you want. I
[1:08:11] Speaker 4: saw people during the pandemic behaving in ways I never
[1:08:14] Speaker 4: would have thought they would. We locked ourselves in our houses.
[1:08:16] Speaker 4: We stopped going to grocery stores en masse. Because of
[1:08:22] Speaker 4: that fear, we completely and readily changed our lives worldwide.
[1:08:28] Speaker 4: And I think that told the spiritual evil, okay, we
[1:08:30] Speaker 4: know now. If we can scare people bad enough, we
[1:08:33] Speaker 4: can get away with anything we want.
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: There seems to be an attempt to usher in an
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: era of biblical revelations, like you were saying. Now, I've
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: gotten quite a few different insights into this lately, and
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: I'd love to get yours. Do you believe that this
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: is something that is a true prophetic unfolding that is
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: occurring right now, or are these forces behind it trying
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: to manipulate our reality to usher in these apocalyptic events?
[1:09:11] Speaker 4: I think I actually believe to a degree both of
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: those are true. I do believe that we are in
[1:09:18] Speaker 4: the final stages of human history on this planet. Now,
[1:09:21] Speaker 4: keep in mind, every generation has thought that, you know,
[1:09:25] Speaker 4: you can go all the way back to the apostle
[1:09:27] Speaker 4: Paul who wrote, you know, most of the new Testament.
[1:09:29] Speaker 4: He said he was in the last days and it
[1:09:31] Speaker 4: wasn't toward until towards the end of his life. He realized, okay,
[1:09:34] Speaker 4: the second coming isn't happening in my lifetime. So I'm
[1:09:36] Speaker 4: going to put that caveat out there that I do
[1:09:38] Speaker 4: believe we are in that end times, but again, every
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: generation has felt the same thing, but the way things
[1:09:43] Speaker 4: are accelerating, I, I, I, find it very difficult to
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: believe that we're going to be here another 50 years
[1:09:50] Speaker 4: from now, unless there's some type of massive shift in
[1:09:55] Speaker 4: our spiritual consciousness, in our understanding of our Creator, and
[1:09:59] Speaker 4: for lack of a better term, a revival, as we experience, say,
[1:10:03] Speaker 4: like in the 1800s, like great awakenings. Unless there's another
[1:10:07] Speaker 4: great awakening, I don't see us lasting another 50 years
[1:10:10] Speaker 4: the way we're going. Now, to the second part of
[1:10:13] Speaker 4: what you were asking, are there Are there entities, spiritual evil,
[1:10:18] Speaker 4: and their minions, their human minions? We'll talk about that
[1:10:20] Speaker 4: as well, because I think that they work in conjunction
[1:10:23] Speaker 4: for several reasons. Are they trying to bring things about? Yes,
[1:10:27] Speaker 4: I do. And the reason is, my opinion is that
[1:10:31] Speaker 4: they are trying to control the narrative. Keep in mind
[1:10:35] Speaker 4: a couple of things about these spiritual entities. One, they
[1:10:38] Speaker 4: don't have free will anymore. They have been judged already.
[1:10:43] Speaker 4: And I think we'll have a chance to get into
[1:10:46] Speaker 4: how they were already judged. Once you are judged by God,
[1:10:50] Speaker 4: you are locked in. You have no more free will.
[1:10:53] Speaker 4: So the question might be, okay, if these entities have
[1:10:56] Speaker 4: read the book of Revelation and they know that they lose,
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: why do they continue to do the same things? Well,
[1:11:00] Speaker 4: because they're locked into it. They cannot get out of it.
[1:11:03] Speaker 4: But their only recourse is to try to control the narrative. Remember,
[1:11:07] Speaker 4: the sequence of events is Once the last seven years
[1:11:13] Speaker 4: of our human rule on this earth, which is in
[1:11:15] Speaker 4: Christian philosophy called the tribulation, those last seven years, once
[1:11:19] Speaker 4: they occur, the sequence is you have this entity called
[1:11:23] Speaker 4: the Antichrist, or the beast is actually what he more
[1:11:25] Speaker 4: properly called in Revelation. He becomes a world leader. He's
[1:11:28] Speaker 4: going to be a messianic figure. He is going to
[1:11:31] Speaker 4: be the Antichrist comes from, you know, the Greek Antichristos, which, yes,
[1:11:37] Speaker 4: we use it as anti meaning against something. He is
[1:11:38] Speaker 4: against Christ, but Antichrist. In Greek, anti, in Greek actually
[1:11:42] Speaker 4: means replacement. He's a replacement Christ. So he'll be a
[1:11:46] Speaker 4: false second coming. In order to have a false second coming,
[1:11:49] Speaker 4: you have to have a false apocalypse. So I believe
[1:11:52] Speaker 4: they're trying to bring these things about so that they
[1:11:54] Speaker 4: can say, hey, here is the apocalypse. Not the one
[1:11:57] Speaker 4: that the God of the Bible intended. Here's our apocalypse.
[1:11:59] Speaker 4: And here's our savior. Believe in this guy, worship him,
[1:12:03] Speaker 4: commit your life over to them. So to him. So
[1:12:05] Speaker 4: that's what I think is happening. So yes, I do
[1:12:07] Speaker 4: believe they are intentionally trying to bring these things about.
[1:12:10] Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Chris, they, Christopher, they haven't, they
[1:12:13] Speaker 4: didn't just start this. They've been trying to do this
[1:12:15] Speaker 4: from day one. I think a lot of us, Christian
[1:12:18] Speaker 4: and secular, have this idea that the spiritual entity, call
[1:12:22] Speaker 4: him Satan, Lucifer, whatever you want to call him, he's
[1:12:25] Speaker 4: like the emperor in Star Wars, where he's like sitting
[1:12:28] Speaker 4: back on his throne, you know, twirling his mustache saying,
[1:12:30] Speaker 4: you know, good, good, my plan has come together slowly. No,
[1:12:35] Speaker 4: they're not waiting around. They've been trying to bring about
[1:12:38] Speaker 4: this scenario. They've just been withheld by the presence of
[1:12:44] Speaker 4: the spirit of God in this earth. But as that
[1:12:47] Speaker 4: spirit wanes, and I believe that's happened now, I think
[1:12:49] Speaker 4: the strength of what you could call the Christian church
[1:12:52] Speaker 4: is getting weaker and weaker. And as good diminishes, evil grows.
[1:12:57] Speaker 4: Because again, evil is like light and darkness. Darkness is
[1:13:02] Speaker 4: the measure of a lack of light. Darkness doesn't exist
[1:13:04] Speaker 4: on its own. It's not a thing. You can't go
[1:13:06] Speaker 4: into a lit room and bring in a ball of darkness.
[1:13:10] Speaker 4: Darkness is simply the measurement of the absence of light.
[1:13:12] Speaker 4: The same thing with good and evil. The more good diminishes,
[1:13:15] Speaker 4: the more evil grows because good is creation. If you
[1:13:19] Speaker 4: look at the biblical definition, that which is good is
[1:13:22] Speaker 4: that which creates. When God went through the creation narrative
[1:13:25] Speaker 4: in Genesis, everything he said he created X, Y, Z,
[1:13:28] Speaker 4: and this was good. So that's our creative definition. Therefore,
[1:13:32] Speaker 4: the opposite would be evil. That would be destruction. Well,
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: good can exist without evil. You can create all day
[1:13:38] Speaker 4: without destroying anything, but evil can't exist without good. Good
[1:13:42] Speaker 4: has to create something in order for evil to destroy it.
[1:13:44] Speaker 4: You can't destroy something that isn't there. So as good diminishes,
[1:13:48] Speaker 4: evil grows. And as that happens, I think that's what's
[1:13:51] Speaker 4: getting us closer and closer to this end-time scenario.
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: What I see that may be difficult for people of faith, Christians, Catholics,
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: to try and put together is, is the connections between
[1:14:07] Speaker 1: what is really happening and what's being portrayed by the church,
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: because I believe that there has been an infiltration into
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: Abrahamic religions and to the church in general. There are
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: dark forces that have infiltrated not only the church, but
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: all areas of our material reality to try and control
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: humans in different ways. But this makes it difficult for
[1:14:33] Speaker 1: people of faith to discern the events that are unfolding
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: from what they're being told by the church that is
[1:14:42] Speaker 1: the truth, right?
[1:14:44] Speaker 4: Absolutely. You're 100% right. If you go to my website,
[1:14:48] Speaker 4: if you go to the About Me section, which is
[1:14:50] Speaker 4: on the homepage, the first thing I say is, I
[1:14:52] Speaker 4: am not religious. And what I mean by that is
[1:14:57] Speaker 4: I don't conform to what religion is. Religion is man-made.
[1:15:02] Speaker 4: Religion the definition of religion are the things that human
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: beings do in order to get closer to what they
[1:15:06] Speaker 4: consider it to be divine Okay, so and you don't
[1:15:10] Speaker 4: have to be a person of faith to be religious
[1:15:12] Speaker 4: I think I gave this this example on when I
[1:15:13] Speaker 4: was on tinfoil hat briefly before I had some technical
[1:15:16] Speaker 4: issues I said that if you are an atheist and
[1:15:19] Speaker 4: you brush your teeth every morning at 7 a.m You
[1:15:23] Speaker 4: brushing your teeth religiously why because that's what you're doing
[1:15:26] Speaker 4: to get to what you consider good so but it's
[1:15:30] Speaker 4: all man-made rules and And those rules come from these entities,
[1:15:35] Speaker 4: these institutions that we call churches, whether it be the
[1:15:39] Speaker 4: Catholic Church or whether it be Protestant churches. And I
[1:15:42] Speaker 4: have a lot to say about Catholics on Catholicism, not Catholics.
[1:15:45] Speaker 4: I'm having a problem with the Catholic people. I have
[1:15:47] Speaker 4: a problem with the Catholic hierarchy in the Vatican. And
[1:15:50] Speaker 4: I make sure I distinguish that on my site. But,
[1:15:52] Speaker 4: you know, Protestants are just as guilty as this. of
[1:15:57] Speaker 4: having this religiosity that is not legitimate. I just had
[1:16:01] Speaker 4: a conversation with a good friend of mine before this episode.
[1:16:04] Speaker 4: We were talking about Calvinism, John Calvin being one of
[1:16:07] Speaker 4: the so-called fathers of modern Protestantism, but Calvinism leads you
[1:16:12] Speaker 4: away from God. And I talk about that on my
[1:16:16] Speaker 4: site and in my series in Revelation when I look
[1:16:18] Speaker 4: at the Church of Sardis. But to get back to
[1:16:20] Speaker 4: specifically to what you were saying about there being infiltration, yes,
[1:16:23] Speaker 4: there's been infiltration from day one. Keep in mind that, again,
[1:16:27] Speaker 4: behind the human evil is spiritual evil. And they are
[1:16:31] Speaker 4: older than us, smarter than us. They know more. They
[1:16:35] Speaker 4: know how to infiltrate. So as soon as you, I mean,
[1:16:37] Speaker 4: even in the, again, you talk about the life of
[1:16:39] Speaker 4: Jesus in the first century. He lives, dies, resurrects around
[1:16:44] Speaker 4: 30 to 40 AD. And then you have the apostles,
[1:16:49] Speaker 4: Paul and Peter, whatever, they're writing their letters that make
[1:16:53] Speaker 4: up the New Testament. But before that century is even out,
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: you already have letters in the Bible telling people about
[1:17:00] Speaker 4: how folks are coming in and corrupting the new faith
[1:17:05] Speaker 4: of Christianity. So Jesus was only off earth for a
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: couple of decades and already there were people coming in
[1:17:13] Speaker 4: to infiltrate it and so in false doctrine into what
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: the legitimate doctrine is. So yeah, that absolutely happens. And
[1:17:21] Speaker 4: it's the onus, it's on us as believers, as Christians,
[1:17:26] Speaker 4: as Catholics, as people of faith, to suss out the
[1:17:32] Speaker 4: differences between what is legitimate and what is not. And
[1:17:35] Speaker 4: that's why we have the Bible. That needs to be
[1:17:41] Speaker 4: our true north. And that's what we have to use
[1:17:46] Speaker 4: to say, okay, how close does this actually match what
[1:17:50] Speaker 4: we legitimately know to be true? from the scriptures. And,
[1:17:53] Speaker 4: you know, and I know that people will say, well,
[1:17:54] Speaker 4: the scriptures have been corrupted. I don't know if you
[1:18:00] Speaker 4: want to go there, but here's the thing with whenever
[1:18:05] Speaker 4: someone says, you know, the Bible has been changed over
[1:18:07] Speaker 4: the years. I'm like, okay, well, how do you prove
[1:18:09] Speaker 4: that something is counterfeit? Let's say if I were to say,
[1:18:12] Speaker 4: if you were to take me to court, if I
[1:18:14] Speaker 4: owed you a hundred dollars, Chris, and I gave you
[1:18:16] Speaker 4: a hundred dollar bill and it had Joe Biden face
[1:18:20] Speaker 4: on it, You would say, this isn't legitimate. I said, oh, no, no,
[1:18:22] Speaker 4: it is. This is a $ 100 bill. And we go
[1:18:25] Speaker 4: to court. Well, Chris, how would you prove that the
[1:18:29] Speaker 4: bill I gave you was fraudulent? Well, you would show
[1:18:32] Speaker 4: a legitimate $ 100 bill with Benjamin Franklin on it. So
[1:18:34] Speaker 4: you have to show the original and then compare that
[1:18:37] Speaker 4: to the counterfeit. The same thing with the Bible. How
[1:18:40] Speaker 4: do you know if the Bible has been corrupted? Well,
[1:18:42] Speaker 4: then you need something as close to the original as possible.
[1:18:45] Speaker 4: And you compare that to the corruption. Well, fortunately, we had...
[1:18:49] Speaker 4: a few decades ago, actually, almost 50, 60, maybe 80
[1:18:53] Speaker 4: years ago, we had the Dead Sea Scrolls. And so
[1:18:57] Speaker 4: you had this source of documents that had been that
[1:19:00] Speaker 4: were some of them were dated back to the third
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: century BC. So, you know, pretty, pretty old documents. And
[1:19:06] Speaker 4: when they were compared to the Bible that we have today,
[1:19:10] Speaker 4: especially when you look at the King James version, it
[1:19:14] Speaker 4: was virtually identical. There was like a copy of the
[1:19:16] Speaker 4: complete book of Isaiah that aside from some punctuation and
[1:19:19] Speaker 4: some grammar was the same as the book of Isaiah
[1:19:22] Speaker 4: that we have now. We also have copies of several
[1:19:25] Speaker 4: of the gospels, like for example, the gospel of Matthew
[1:19:28] Speaker 4: that was dated from the first century, which again are
[1:19:32] Speaker 4: pretty close to what was already there. So we can
[1:19:34] Speaker 4: have some confidence that we have a good version of it. Now,
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: is it perfect? No, but the flaws are already very
[1:19:43] Speaker 4: well known by scholars. So I look at what people
[1:19:47] Speaker 4: are saying when they interpret the Bible versus what the
[1:19:52] Speaker 4: Bible actually says. Right.
[1:19:54] Speaker 2: Excellent point.
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: Now, let's get to some of your talking points. First,
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: starting with the active predictive programing. when it pertains to
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: what the elites are showing us in our everyday reality
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: from Hollywood and media and beyond, as it also connects
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: to the principle of as above, so below. Tell us
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: a little bit about your understanding of that. Sure.
[1:20:21] Speaker 4: So sure. So once you said as above, so below,
[1:20:23] Speaker 4: like any of the Christians listening are like, oh, that's satanic.
[1:20:26] Speaker 4: It's a principle. And I really want to make that
[1:20:28] Speaker 4: known that Principles are not good or evil. They just are.
[1:20:32] Speaker 4: And it depends on how it's being used. So predictive programming,
[1:20:36] Speaker 4: that is, and I'm sure your listeners know the definition,
[1:20:38] Speaker 4: but I'll just give it quickly. Predictive programming is this
[1:20:41] Speaker 4: odd practice that the elites, whoever you want to call them,
[1:20:45] Speaker 4: the Illuminati, the Club of Rome, the 13 families, I
[1:20:49] Speaker 4: just call them the elites, that they seem to do
[1:20:52] Speaker 4: this practice they have of essentially telling us or showing
[1:20:56] Speaker 4: us what they're going to do before they do it.
[1:20:59] Speaker 4: which seems counterintuitive because there's a very small group of people, very,
[1:21:04] Speaker 4: very few of them, relatively speaking. So their biggest weakness
[1:21:08] Speaker 4: is the fact that there's far more of us than
[1:21:11] Speaker 4: there are of them. And their biggest danger is the
[1:21:15] Speaker 4: majority of people getting wise to what they're doing. And
[1:21:19] Speaker 4: there's nothing they could physically do to stop us from
[1:21:21] Speaker 4: stopping them. So why do they do particular programs? And
[1:21:24] Speaker 4: I've heard a few explanations about it, none of which
[1:21:27] Speaker 4: really resonate well. Some will say, well, they're giving us
[1:21:30] Speaker 4: a fair shot. They say, we'll tell them what we're
[1:21:32] Speaker 4: going to do. And if they stop us, then they
[1:21:34] Speaker 4: stop us. Well, these aren't really fair-minded people, so I
[1:21:37] Speaker 4: don't really buy that. Then sometimes I've heard people say
[1:21:40] Speaker 4: that it's because of justice or karma, that they can say, well,
[1:21:44] Speaker 4: you know what we told them what we were going
[1:21:45] Speaker 4: to do, and they still fell for it, so we're
[1:21:47] Speaker 4: off the hook. Well, that's not how justice or karma works.
[1:21:52] Speaker 4: Then I heard that it's really about magic. It's about sorcery.
[1:21:57] Speaker 4: That perked my ears up because I know these people
[1:21:59] Speaker 4: practice sorcery at the highest levels and so-called magic. And
[1:22:03] Speaker 4: when you get down, when you talk about magic at
[1:22:06] Speaker 4: the very lowest level, magic needs three things. I mean,
[1:22:09] Speaker 4: you think of a kid with, you know, pulling a
[1:22:11] Speaker 4: rabbit out of a hat. What do you need? You
[1:22:13] Speaker 4: need the magician, you need the magic trick as it were,
[1:22:18] Speaker 4: and you need the audience. So maybe they are revealing
[1:22:21] Speaker 4: things before they happen because they need to have the
[1:22:24] Speaker 4: audience be ready for it. You know, when you say,
[1:22:26] Speaker 4: look at the hat, there's nothing in it. Oh, here's
[1:22:28] Speaker 4: a rabbit. So that had a kernel of truth to it.
[1:22:32] Speaker 4: But as I started doing more research into the spiritual side,
[1:22:35] Speaker 4: I realized that what's really happening with predictive programming is
[1:22:38] Speaker 4: not something they're doing because they want to do it
[1:22:41] Speaker 4: or because they want to warn us or give us
[1:22:42] Speaker 4: a fair shot. They are practicing actually a spiritual principle.
[1:22:48] Speaker 4: of as above, so below. It's a principle that not
[1:22:51] Speaker 4: only the evil spiritual entities practice, but that the God
[1:22:55] Speaker 4: of the Bible himself does the exact same thing. So
[1:22:59] Speaker 4: that's why they're doing it. So let's just be clear
[1:23:03] Speaker 4: that the elites, whoever they are, I don't really try
[1:23:06] Speaker 4: to focus on who they are because they're not at
[1:23:08] Speaker 4: the top of the pyramid. It doesn't matter who they are,
[1:23:10] Speaker 4: whether they're the Rockefellers or Rothschild, the 13 families, whomever.
[1:23:14] Speaker 4: At the top of the pyramid are spiritual entities that
[1:23:18] Speaker 4: you can call fallen angels. I don't like that term
[1:23:21] Speaker 4: because angel from the Greek angelos just means messenger. That's
[1:23:25] Speaker 4: what it means. And they're called angels or angelos in
[1:23:28] Speaker 4: the Bible because usually when people encounter them, that's what
[1:23:30] Speaker 4: they're doing. They're giving a message to a human being
[1:23:33] Speaker 4: about something, but that's a job title. The actual term
[1:23:37] Speaker 4: for them are Elohim. Now, granted the term Elohim is
[1:23:41] Speaker 4: translated God, G-O-D or God's G-O-D-S in the Bible. And
[1:23:46] Speaker 4: that kind of trips people up because are they saying, well,
[1:23:49] Speaker 4: there's more than one God? No, no, no. There is
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: only one creator God, but there are also other Elohim. Elohim,
[1:23:56] Speaker 4: this is not a name.
[1:23:57] Speaker 3: It's not a title.
[1:23:58] Speaker 4: It's a designation of residency. If you, there are two realms,
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: the spiritual realm and our material realm. If you are
[1:24:06] Speaker 4: in the spiritual realm, you are an Elohim. If you
[1:24:09] Speaker 4: are in the physical realm, you are called man. Just
[1:24:12] Speaker 4: like if you live in America, If that's your citizenship,
[1:24:15] Speaker 4: you're an American. That's not your name. That's just where
[1:24:17] Speaker 4: you reside. So like the president of the United States
[1:24:22] Speaker 4: is an American and I'm an American, but we aren't
[1:24:24] Speaker 4: on the same level. So Jehovah Yahweh, Yahuwah, the God
[1:24:28] Speaker 4: of the Bible, he is an Elohim, but he's not
[1:24:30] Speaker 4: the same level as the other so-called angels, the other Elohim.
[1:24:34] Speaker 4: So these elites, they are in partnership and to a
[1:24:41] Speaker 4: degree worship these fallen Elohim. And we'll get into their
[1:24:46] Speaker 4: origins as we go along. But what's important is that
[1:24:49] Speaker 4: they are following that rule. And I want to take
[1:24:52] Speaker 4: us on a journey all the way back to the origins. Remember,
[1:24:55] Speaker 4: I'm a systems thinker. So I want to get back
[1:24:57] Speaker 4: to that original system and then we'll see. So we'll
[1:25:00] Speaker 4: go back and we'll start at where we are now.
[1:25:02] Speaker 4: We'll go back to the beginning and then we'll bring
[1:25:04] Speaker 4: it all the way back. That's kind of the journey
[1:25:06] Speaker 4: I want to take us on.
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[1:25:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds perfect.
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: I was just about to ask if you consider that
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: these Elohim could be the same thing As the ancient
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: pantheon of gods or the pagan gods?
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: I absolutely do. Okay. I believe that because we talk
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: about the Nephilim as well. I'm sure that's a familiar
[1:25:45] Speaker 4: topic on this show as well. And there's obviously a
[1:25:50] Speaker 4: difference between the two. The Elohim are, again, they're purely
[1:25:56] Speaker 4: spiritual beings. The Nephilim are hybrids. We'll get to them.
[1:25:59] Speaker 4: But yes, they are part of those pantheons of gods
[1:26:02] Speaker 4: that are talked about. So, We have this idea that
[1:26:05] Speaker 4: the ancient people, they were just these primitives who didn't
[1:26:08] Speaker 4: know anything and they didn't know how the world works.
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: So they just assigned, randomly assigned gods to the sea
[1:26:15] Speaker 4: and to the air and to the underworld. No, no, no, no, no.
[1:26:18] Speaker 4: The reason the ancients believed in these entities is because
[1:26:21] Speaker 4: they interacted with them. They witnessed them. And so the
[1:26:28] Speaker 4: question is, why don't we witness them today? I think
[1:26:30] Speaker 4: it has a lot to do I'm going to go
[1:26:33] Speaker 4: on a rabbit trail here, but I think it has
[1:26:34] Speaker 4: a lot to do with the way we can perceive
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: things today that they could and we can't. And what
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: I do on Faith by Reason, I have a scientific
[1:26:46] Speaker 4: mindset and I try to look at the science behind it.
[1:26:48] Speaker 4: And one of the key pieces of science that you
[1:26:50] Speaker 4: can use to help understand this difference of perception between
[1:26:53] Speaker 4: then and now is the speed of light. The speed
[1:26:57] Speaker 4: of light is the basis for physics. Once it was
[1:27:00] Speaker 4: discovered about roughly 300 years ago that the speed of
[1:27:03] Speaker 4: light had a constant speed of about 186,000 miles per second,
[1:27:07] Speaker 4: now you could make predictive models. And that's when our
[1:27:10] Speaker 4: modern physics was really born. Our atomic structure, the atom,
[1:27:16] Speaker 4: of course, being the building block of our material world,
[1:27:18] Speaker 4: is all about the speed of light, the speed that
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: the electron goes around the nucleus. And again, that's the
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: basis of all of our physics. something very interesting happened
[1:27:30] Speaker 4: in the 90s. Two scientists from Australia, Norman and Denton,
[1:27:35] Speaker 4: they discovered that the speed of light was actually slowing down,
[1:27:38] Speaker 4: that it was not a constant, slowing down very, very minutely.
[1:27:41] Speaker 4: I mean, almost immeasurably to the point where it's not
[1:27:44] Speaker 4: going to affect our day-to-day lives, but it's slowing down regularly, predictably,
[1:27:49] Speaker 4: and in a certain exponential manner. Now, of course, this
[1:27:52] Speaker 4: was rejected by scientists in the 90s because scientists, despite
[1:27:55] Speaker 4: the fact that they claimed to be objective, were actually
[1:27:58] Speaker 4: as religious as any red-faced preacher in Alabama. They stick
[1:28:02] Speaker 4: to their guns, and they have to be dragged kicking
[1:28:04] Speaker 4: and screaming to a new idea. But then about 10
[1:28:07] Speaker 4: years ago, or maybe a little bit more, scientists finally
[1:28:11] Speaker 4: looked at the data and said, you know, we have
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: to admit that the speed of light is slowing down.
[1:28:14] Speaker 4: What does that mean? Why do I bring that up? Well,
[1:28:17] Speaker 4: if the speed of light is slowing down, then that
[1:28:19] Speaker 4: means that next year, the speed of light will be
[1:28:22] Speaker 4: minutely slower than it was than it is this year. Again,
[1:28:25] Speaker 4: nothing that's going to affect your day-to-day life, but it's happening.
[1:28:29] Speaker 4: But that also means that last year, the speed of
[1:28:33] Speaker 4: light was a little bit faster than it is now. Again,
[1:28:37] Speaker 4: year over year doesn't mean anything, but let's take it
[1:28:40] Speaker 4: back further. If you take it back 100 years, the
[1:28:42] Speaker 4: speed of light would.
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: Have been.
[1:28:45] Speaker 4: Quite a bit faster than it is now. Let's go back.
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: The scientists have done this. You can look this up.
[1:28:52] Speaker 4: You can Google this. Scientists, they've kind of speculated the
[1:28:56] Speaker 4: exponential rate of that light was faster in the past.
[1:28:58] Speaker 4: If you go back 2,000 years to the first century,
[1:29:01] Speaker 4: the time of Christ, it is possible that the speed
[1:29:04] Speaker 4: of light was about 100 times faster than it is today.
[1:29:08] Speaker 4: Go back about 8,000 years, which is roughly the time of,
[1:29:12] Speaker 4: you know, when history is being recorded, you can even
[1:29:14] Speaker 4: call it the time of the flood, Adam and Eve. 8,000
[1:29:17] Speaker 4: years ago, the speed of light is postulated. If you
[1:29:20] Speaker 4: take it on a logarithmic scale, logarithmic scale, excuse me,
[1:29:24] Speaker 4: the speed of light would have been 10,000 times faster
[1:29:27] Speaker 4: than it is now. What does that mean? Well, it
[1:29:30] Speaker 4: means that the world was probably very different in many aspects.
[1:29:33] Speaker 4: But let's talk about our thought processes. In our brains,
[1:29:37] Speaker 4: our thoughts are electric signals. That's how when you go
[1:29:40] Speaker 4: into a hospital and they put the EKG tape around
[1:29:43] Speaker 4: your head, they're measuring electric signals. So if you look at,
[1:29:47] Speaker 4: when you have a thought, you have, again, electric spark
[1:29:50] Speaker 4: goes between two nerves called dendrites. They look like trees.
[1:29:55] Speaker 4: And if you look at them, they don't quite touch.
[1:29:59] Speaker 4: An electric spark goes between the two when you have
[1:30:01] Speaker 4: a thought. That electric spark is going at roughly the
[1:30:05] Speaker 4: speed of light. So you are thinking at the speed
[1:30:08] Speaker 4: of light. If the speed of light was 10,000 times
[1:30:11] Speaker 4: faster 8,000 years ago, That means that our ability to
[1:30:17] Speaker 4: process thoughts would have probably been something like 10,000 times faster.
[1:30:22] Speaker 4: That means what is intelligence? Intelligence is a speed at
[1:30:25] Speaker 4: which you can process information. So that means that the
[1:30:28] Speaker 4: people in the so-called ancient times were able to process
[1:30:32] Speaker 4: thoughts way faster than we were. We are now. So
[1:30:36] Speaker 4: what would that do to your perception? What would you
[1:30:39] Speaker 4: be able to see and process back then that you
[1:30:42] Speaker 4: can't see and process now? Could it be you were
[1:30:44] Speaker 4: able to see more into the spiritual realm? I think
[1:30:48] Speaker 4: it's possible.
[1:30:49] Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating that the speed of light could
[1:30:53] Speaker 1: have been faster in our ancient past. And I think
[1:30:57] Speaker 1: that's really interesting, especially when coupled with the attempts to
[1:31:03] Speaker 1: dull our consciousness that are outward in our modern times
[1:31:08] Speaker 1: through technological advancements and The education system and everything that
[1:31:13] Speaker 1: we've been moving towards, we've been moving away from natural
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: spiritual connections and more into this technological age. And the
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: further we go, the further we are from these natural
[1:31:26] Speaker 1: abilities that we once had.
[1:31:28] Speaker 4: It seems.
[1:31:30] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
[1:31:31] Speaker 4: So, I mean, and so, yeah, that's how it could
[1:31:33] Speaker 4: have affected our perceptions. And you can go off on
[1:31:36] Speaker 4: this for a while and just talk about how would
[1:31:38] Speaker 4: it affect our physical reality? you know, that means that
[1:31:41] Speaker 4: electrons would have been spinning faster around the nucleus. So,
[1:31:45] Speaker 4: and since we live in basically a holographic world, I mean,
[1:31:49] Speaker 4: what we consider to be solid actually isn't. I mean,
[1:31:51] Speaker 4: an atom is mostly empty space by a measure of 99.9%
[1:31:56] Speaker 4: to one. Most of it, you know, the electron spins
[1:31:59] Speaker 4: around an atom. Don't look at your school books for that.
[1:32:02] Speaker 4: If you could blow up the nucleus to the size of, say,
[1:32:04] Speaker 4: the head of a pin and put it at the
[1:32:06] Speaker 4: 50-yard line of a football field, the electrons would be
[1:32:10] Speaker 4: circling through the end zones. It's that far apart. So
[1:32:15] Speaker 4: if a nucleus was the size of maybe a softball,
[1:32:18] Speaker 4: the electrons would be circling around it about seven miles
[1:32:21] Speaker 4: in diameter. So most of the atom is empty space.
[1:32:24] Speaker 4: Why do things seem solid? Well, because the electrons create
[1:32:26] Speaker 4: an electric field, and that field gives you the illusion
[1:32:30] Speaker 4: of solidity. So the reason my hand doesn't go through
[1:32:32] Speaker 4: this desk is because the negative charge of the electrons
[1:32:36] Speaker 4: that make up my hand and the atoms of my
[1:32:37] Speaker 4: hand are repelled by the same electrons that are circling
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: the atoms that make up my desk in front of me.
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: So there's that illusion there. So if they were spinning
[1:32:47] Speaker 4: around faster, then that means that electric field would have
[1:32:51] Speaker 4: been even stronger. Things might have been more dense, heavier.
[1:32:55] Speaker 4: Maybe light would have been brighter. Colors might have been
[1:32:57] Speaker 4: more vivid. were able to like get in a time
[1:33:00] Speaker 4: machine and go back 10,000 years or whatever, the world
[1:33:04] Speaker 4: probably would have looked way different than it looks right now.
[1:33:07] Speaker 4: And maybe that explains why we're able to move those
[1:33:10] Speaker 4: big stones for the pyramids.
[1:33:12] Speaker 1: Right.
[1:33:12] Speaker 4: You know, maybe there was different density levels. We were
[1:33:15] Speaker 4: able to do different. Yeah, go ahead.
[1:33:18] Speaker 1: I was going to say, what do you think about
[1:33:19] Speaker 1: the possibilities that the entities, the negative entities that are
[1:33:28] Speaker 1: trying to control our perception, are unable to create in
[1:33:33] Speaker 1: this reality. And we have the ability to, in a sense,
[1:33:40] Speaker 1: manipulate and create reality based on our awareness and consciousness
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: and energetic abilities. But these entities do not have this
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: ability and they whisper in our ears and use us
[1:33:54] Speaker 1: to attempt to create their own reality by getting us
[1:33:59] Speaker 1: to bend to their will.
[1:34:01] Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: Good points. First of all, these entities, again, they have
[1:34:08] Speaker 4: been judged. We see this in the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch,
[1:34:10] Speaker 4: which talks about how the angels who fell, the Elohim
[1:34:13] Speaker 4: who fell and propagated the Nephilim, they were judged by God.
[1:34:18] Speaker 4: And they have no free will. They have no creativity.
[1:34:22] Speaker 4: They are not able to create. So you're right. They
[1:34:24] Speaker 4: have to rely on us. to create for them. They
[1:34:29] Speaker 4: know facts, but they cannot create. And so they are,
[1:34:33] Speaker 4: so we have a symbiotic relationship. We, I mean, them
[1:34:36] Speaker 4: and their minions, their human minions have a symbiotic relationship
[1:34:39] Speaker 4: in that they provide information to their human minions, and
[1:34:45] Speaker 4: the humans provide the creativity that they aren't able to.
[1:34:48] Speaker 4: They can't make music. They can't make film. They can't
[1:34:51] Speaker 4: do any of the creative things that we can do.
[1:34:54] Speaker 4: And so they can, so they use, those abilities to
[1:34:57] Speaker 4: effectively bring about their plan. And I would say that
[1:35:00] Speaker 4: was another podcast talking about this. I think another reason
[1:35:04] Speaker 4: I think things are winding down is you look at
[1:35:05] Speaker 4: how little creativity there is in the world anymore. You
[1:35:10] Speaker 4: look at most songs. I mean, I'm a big music fan.
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: And I listen to modern songs. There's no originality. I mean,
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: I like rap music. And I don't mind rapper sampling music.
[1:35:23] Speaker 4: you know, other music, but they add their own creativity
[1:35:25] Speaker 4: to it. But now everything sounds the same. It's almost
[1:35:28] Speaker 4: like our creativity is going down. All movies have the
[1:35:31] Speaker 4: same formula now. I can start watching a movie and
[1:35:33] Speaker 4: I can guess halfway through, okay, here's what's going to
[1:35:35] Speaker 4: happen next. Here's how it's going to resolve itself. They're
[1:35:39] Speaker 4: all the same. So I think that's a reflection of
[1:35:42] Speaker 4: the fact that we are becoming, there's more evil in
[1:35:46] Speaker 4: the world. There's less good. There's less creativity.
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: Do you see that there are there is a counterculture
[1:35:54] Speaker 1: movement when it comes to this awakening and truth-seeking community
[1:35:58] Speaker 1: that's growing, especially since the events that we discussed of 2020,
[1:36:03] Speaker 1: where people are becoming more aware and possibly there's a
[1:36:08] Speaker 1: growing number of people on the right side of what's occurring.
[1:36:14] Speaker 4: I think it's possible and I hope it is happening.
[1:36:17] Speaker 4: I hope that, you know, I don't want I know
[1:36:20] Speaker 4: that eventually, I mean, as a Christian, I do want
[1:36:22] Speaker 4: the eventual return of Christ and to have eternity with
[1:36:29] Speaker 4: things being the way they are. But I'm not in
[1:36:31] Speaker 4: a hurry for it to happen. I mean, I want
[1:36:32] Speaker 4: to have a good life here. So I would love
[1:36:34] Speaker 4: for us to have a revival because not only does
[1:36:36] Speaker 4: that mean that things are going to get better, it
[1:36:38] Speaker 4: also means that there'll be more people who can come
[1:36:41] Speaker 4: to the true knowledge of correct spirituality and of God,
[1:36:44] Speaker 4: of our creator. So I prefer things get better. And
[1:36:49] Speaker 4: it could, and I hope it's happening. I'm not sure.
[1:36:53] Speaker 4: I've seen some reason to believe it is because I
[1:36:55] Speaker 4: think there are fewer things that they can get away
[1:36:57] Speaker 4: with now. I think the shows like this, websites like
[1:37:03] Speaker 4: mine are really the thorn in the side to these
[1:37:08] Speaker 4: folks because they can't control everything. Now, the internet is
[1:37:10] Speaker 4: probably like their biggest blessing and biggest curse to what
[1:37:13] Speaker 4: they want to do. And speaking of creativity, some of
[1:37:16] Speaker 4: the best Film and creative works I've seen have come
[1:37:21] Speaker 4: from independent publishers who are not a part of the system.
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: And I've seen some independent films, which I've given some
[1:37:27] Speaker 4: money to, to help them grow because they're not going
[1:37:30] Speaker 4: to get funding from any of the big studios. They've
[1:37:33] Speaker 4: come up with just some amazing work. I mean, what
[1:37:35] Speaker 4: was the movie? I think it was earlier this year.
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: It starred Jim Caviezel. It was about child trafficking.
[1:37:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, Sound of Freedom.
[1:37:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a really good movie, but it wasn't from,
[1:37:47] Speaker 4: I think Disney put it out, but it was from
[1:37:50] Speaker 4: a smaller studio and they weren't even promoting it. It
[1:37:53] Speaker 4: was just such a good movie that people flocked to
[1:37:56] Speaker 4: it because there's such a lack of creativity. When they
[1:37:59] Speaker 4: saw something unique, people just flocked to it. And so, yes,
[1:38:04] Speaker 4: creativity is still there, but you're going to have to
[1:38:07] Speaker 4: get it from other alternative sources.
[1:38:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Are you concerned about the infiltration within this
[1:38:16] Speaker 1: community that is attempting to spread disinformation on both sides?
[1:38:22] Speaker 1: And there's a growing number of these internal agents or
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: three-letter agency infiltrators. that are becoming parts intertwined with this
[1:38:34] Speaker 1: community and spreading information and sending people off on the
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: wrong track.
[1:38:40] Speaker 2: Do you see that?
[1:38:42] Speaker 4: It's concerning, yeah. It's tough to discern. I think your
[1:38:47] Speaker 4: strongest weapon right now is your ability to have discernment.
[1:38:52] Speaker 4: Because it's hard to tell who are the good guys anymore.
[1:38:54] Speaker 4: I listen to a lot of people, a lot of podcasts,
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: but I want to listen to them for a really
[1:39:00] Speaker 4: long time before I say, you know, this person's legitimate.
[1:39:04] Speaker 4: Because I have to... So in the book of Ephesians,
[1:39:09] Speaker 4: they have a section called the whole armor of God
[1:39:14] Speaker 4: that the Apostle Paul tells you to put on in
[1:39:16] Speaker 4: order to deal with this world.
[1:39:19] Speaker 3: And one of them.
[1:39:22] Speaker 4: Is the truth. You have to have truth. I think
[1:39:25] Speaker 4: the shield of faith, the sword of the spirit is
[1:39:28] Speaker 4: the helmet of truth, I believe. So if I got
[1:39:31] Speaker 4: that wrong, forgive me, I don't have it in front
[1:39:32] Speaker 4: of me. Well, the point is that one of your weapons,
[1:39:35] Speaker 4: one of your armor is truth. So the point is
[1:39:38] Speaker 4: you need to know what is objectively true. And that, again,
[1:39:42] Speaker 4: that's your true north. And you compare everything to what
[1:39:45] Speaker 4: you know is true. And to me, truth is the
[1:39:49] Speaker 4: Judeo-Christian philosophy. So I look at it from that lens.
[1:39:51] Speaker 4: As a Christian, that's what I'm going to do. I'm
[1:39:53] Speaker 4: going to look at things through the lens. And is
[1:39:56] Speaker 4: that truth? To what degree does what this person is saying,
[1:40:01] Speaker 4: what this person, wherever they are, are saying, How close
[1:40:05] Speaker 4: does that fit with what I know to be true?
[1:40:06] Speaker 4: And that's everyone's journey. We all have to have that
[1:40:08] Speaker 4: journey of discernment and you have to decide what is
[1:40:10] Speaker 4: absolutely true. And that has to be your Rosetta Stone
[1:40:15] Speaker 4: as you're trying to decipher what's happening because there is
[1:40:17] Speaker 4: a ton of deception out there. And there are a
[1:40:20] Speaker 4: ton of people who you just don't know if they're legit.
[1:40:23] Speaker 4: And so you have to test them.
[1:40:26] Speaker 1: Now, going back to the fallen angel aspect, do you
[1:40:29] Speaker 1: think these were, as some believe... spiritual human hybrid beings
[1:40:36] Speaker 1: that these spiritual entities that we would consider fallen angels
[1:40:41] Speaker 1: mated with human women and the offspring were physical giants.
[1:40:49] Speaker 4: I do How about this? Let me go through that
[1:40:53] Speaker 4: backwards traipsing through history, and we can get there. That way,
[1:40:57] Speaker 4: I can do both things. I can answer your question
[1:40:59] Speaker 4: while also getting through the big picture that I want
[1:41:03] Speaker 4: to present. I think we can knock both of those out.
[1:41:05] Speaker 4: Go for it. All right. So here we go. Here's
[1:41:08] Speaker 4: my little presentation on this. So if you look at
[1:41:10] Speaker 4: where we are now, the elites, who are they? Well,
[1:41:13] Speaker 4: we talk about people like Rockefellers, Rothschilds, whomever. And what
[1:41:18] Speaker 4: do they do, among other things? They rule the world.
[1:41:21] Speaker 4: They control our monetary system. So the question is, what
[1:41:24] Speaker 4: do they want? It can't be money. They already have
[1:41:27] Speaker 4: all the money they could ever want. They have all
[1:41:29] Speaker 4: the power and influence. What they really want is they
[1:41:31] Speaker 4: want that connection to the spiritual. They want the same
[1:41:34] Speaker 4: thing that the spiritual entities behind them are tempting them
[1:41:39] Speaker 4: with the same things that the so-called serpent, or more accurately,
[1:41:43] Speaker 4: the nakash, the word translated serpent, which actually means the
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: shining one, tempted Adam and Eve with. You can be
[1:41:49] Speaker 4: like the gods. If you eat this fruit, you will
[1:41:51] Speaker 4: be like the gods. That's what they really want. So
[1:41:55] Speaker 4: who are they? And what do they do? What these
[1:41:58] Speaker 4: blood sacrifices and sexual sacrifices. And what are those? And
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: we're going to talk about that because it's really, really important.
[1:42:06] Speaker 4: But the reason that they do these things is because
[1:42:08] Speaker 4: both blood and sex are about life. Blood, the life
[1:42:13] Speaker 4: of the body is in the blood. And sexuality obviously
[1:42:16] Speaker 4: leads to life. You can have children. So there's something
[1:42:19] Speaker 4: about life energy that these entities want. We're going to
[1:42:23] Speaker 4: talk about why pretty soon. So let's talk about who
[1:42:26] Speaker 4: they are. Rothschilds, Rockefellers. Who's behind them? I want to
[1:42:29] Speaker 4: get to the origin. So what's the origin of our
[1:42:31] Speaker 4: current banking system? Well, where did the Rothschilds come from? Well,
[1:42:37] Speaker 4: they were the product of even older bankers. We're talking
[1:42:41] Speaker 4: about the bankers like the Medici's and the Orsini's that
[1:42:44] Speaker 4: go back to medieval times, back to the Renaissance and before.
[1:42:48] Speaker 4: I mean, there you can, again, this is easy information
[1:42:50] Speaker 4: to find. There are TV shows about it. My wife
[1:42:52] Speaker 4: and I last year were watching a really good show
[1:42:54] Speaker 4: on Netflix called about the Medici's and how they were
[1:42:59] Speaker 4: the big bankers. And they're the ones, as they went underground,
[1:43:02] Speaker 4: they funded and started the Rothschilds. So where did the
[1:43:06] Speaker 4: Medici's and Orsini's come from? Well, they were the ancient bankers, ancient,
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: I mean, by, you know, like six, 700 years ago
[1:43:14] Speaker 4: for the Catholic church, because the Vatican could not charge
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: interest on money. Usually they wouldn't do that. So they
[1:43:20] Speaker 4: have these bankers work for them. So they, their origin
[1:43:23] Speaker 4: is Catholicism, the Vatican. Where did Catholicism come from? Well,
[1:43:28] Speaker 4: you have to go back further to a man by
[1:43:30] Speaker 4: the name of Constantine, the last pure Roman emperor. Constantine,
[1:43:37] Speaker 4: He is the one who actually legalized Christianity. So before Constantine,
[1:43:43] Speaker 4: Christians were persecuted. Constantine was over the last of the
[1:43:48] Speaker 4: Roman Empire, as we know it, when the Roman Empire
[1:43:51] Speaker 4: was split. It was split into the Eastern and Western Empires.
[1:43:55] Speaker 4: And there was a battle called the Battle of the
[1:43:57] Speaker 4: Govan Bridge, where Constantine fought a battle against the Eastern
[1:44:00] Speaker 4: leg of the empire. And he said that before this battle,
[1:44:04] Speaker 4: he saw the sign of the cross, and he said,
[1:44:06] Speaker 4: in this sign, conquer. He won the battle, and he
[1:44:10] Speaker 4: allegedly became a Christian. He legalized Christianity, but he also made,
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: and he didn't make Christianity the official religion of Rome.
[1:44:22] Speaker 4: That was actually done by his third successor, Theodosius. He
[1:44:27] Speaker 4: legalized Christianity. He legalized all religions, And he made himself
[1:44:31] Speaker 4: the head of the church. He called himself Pontifex Maximus, which,
[1:44:35] Speaker 4: by the way, is the same title that the popes
[1:44:37] Speaker 4: used to this day. So Peter was not the first pope. Sorry,
[1:44:40] Speaker 4: there's no historical reason to believe that. The first pope
[1:44:43] Speaker 4: was Constantine. And so after Constantine legalized Christianity, as I said,
[1:44:48] Speaker 4: his third successor, Theodosius, decided to make Christianity the official
[1:44:53] Speaker 4: religion of what was left of the empire. So what
[1:44:56] Speaker 4: that means was that all the different pagan religions, all
[1:45:00] Speaker 4: the non-Christian religions, they were forced to convert to Christianity
[1:45:03] Speaker 4: under penalty of death. So now you had Christian churches
[1:45:09] Speaker 4: filled with unrepentant non-Christians who were starting to cause a ruckus.
[1:45:14] Speaker 4: So the Christian leadership decided, well, what we need to
[1:45:17] Speaker 4: do is compromise with them. What we'll do is kind
[1:45:22] Speaker 4: of melt them both together. We will take all their
[1:45:26] Speaker 4: pagan rituals and beliefs and we'll just slap Christian names
[1:45:28] Speaker 4: on them to get them to be a little more docile.
[1:45:31] Speaker 4: And then eventually they'll become full Christians. Well, that was
[1:45:34] Speaker 4: the origin of Catholicism. Catholicism is basically the amalgamation of
[1:45:39] Speaker 4: Christianity with paganism. That's why you have, you know, December 25th,
[1:45:43] Speaker 4: that's the birthday of Jesus when he wasn't born anywhere
[1:45:45] Speaker 4: near December 25th. That's actually Saturnalia. or the celebration of
[1:45:50] Speaker 4: the sun god, Sol Invictus. Jesus was born in the summer.
[1:45:53] Speaker 1: Why?
[1:45:54] Speaker 4: There were shepherds in the field with their sheep. They
[1:45:56] Speaker 4: wouldn't be out in December. They'd have frozen to death. So,
[1:45:59] Speaker 4: and Easter is, they didn't even bother changing the name
[1:46:02] Speaker 4: of that. Easter is just a transliteration of Ishtar, the
[1:46:05] Speaker 4: ancient Mesopotamian fertility goddess. That's why you have rabbits and
[1:46:09] Speaker 4: eggs associated with the so-called, with the resurrection of Jesus.
[1:46:12] Speaker 4: So that's, and all the various pagan gods, they just
[1:46:16] Speaker 4: call them saints. That's why, Catholics pray to Saint Peter
[1:46:19] Speaker 4: and Saint Paul and Saint whoever. So basically the origin
[1:46:24] Speaker 4: of Catholicism is the Roman Empire. Where did the Roman
[1:46:26] Speaker 4: Empire come from? I'm going to speed this up. Well,
[1:46:29] Speaker 4: the Romans conquered the Greeks. The Greeks under Alexander the Great.
[1:46:34] Speaker 4: So where did the Greeks come from? What's their origin? Well,
[1:46:38] Speaker 4: they became great after they conquered the Medo-Persian Empire under
[1:46:42] Speaker 4: Darius and Cyrus and Artaxerxes. Okay, where did the Medo-Persian
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: Empire come from? They conquered the Babylonian Empire under Nebuchadnezzar. Okay,
[1:46:54] Speaker 4: what about, where did Nebuchadnezzar get, where did he come from?
[1:46:57] Speaker 4: Where did Babylon come from? Well, they conquered the Assyrians.
[1:47:01] Speaker 4: The Assyrians conquered the Egyptians. The Egyptians, the Egyptians, whoops, sorry.
[1:47:08] Speaker 3: Oh, you're all right?
[1:47:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay. I just had something happen. I had
[1:47:13] Speaker 4: some noise happening in the background. I said Assyrian and
[1:47:19] Speaker 4: Siri thought I was talking to her. So the Egyptians
[1:47:24] Speaker 4: and the Egyptian empire, the ancient Egyptian empire was the
[1:47:27] Speaker 4: first empire after Babel. Now that's Babel under Nimrod, which
[1:47:33] Speaker 4: is also the same as ancient Sumeria. For those of
[1:47:38] Speaker 4: you who aren't familiar with Babel, Babel, Sumeria, they're virtually
[1:47:40] Speaker 4: the same thing. That was the very first world empire.
[1:47:45] Speaker 4: That was the very first time that people were gathered
[1:47:49] Speaker 4: under a single leader. So what was Nimrod all about?
[1:47:52] Speaker 4: It says in Genesis chapters 11 and 12, Nimrod, he's
[1:47:57] Speaker 4: the one who gathered everyone together after the flood. He
[1:48:00] Speaker 4: said he became a mighty one. That term mighty one
[1:48:04] Speaker 4: in Hebrew is the term giborim. Giborim is one of
[1:48:09] Speaker 4: the titles of the Nephilim. Nimrod became a Nephilim. either
[1:48:14] Speaker 4: was born in Nephilim, which is possible, or he became
[1:48:18] Speaker 4: one through some type of genetic alteration. But again, this
[1:48:22] Speaker 4: was the first and most perfect world empire. Everyone was
[1:48:25] Speaker 4: of the same mind and had the same purpose. And
[1:48:27] Speaker 4: that purpose was to build this tower to reach to
[1:48:29] Speaker 4: the heavens. It wasn't about height. It wasn't because they
[1:48:32] Speaker 4: thought heaven was in the sky. If they did, then
[1:48:34] Speaker 4: why would they build it in ancient Iraq, southern Iraq,
[1:48:38] Speaker 4: which is almost below sea level. No, what they were
[1:48:40] Speaker 4: building was a ziggurat, which at the top has an
[1:48:46] Speaker 4: area for human sacrifice, human blood sacrifice, to open a
[1:48:49] Speaker 4: portal into the spiritual realm. So they were building a
[1:48:52] Speaker 4: tower to invade the heavens. Well, maybe we'll get back
[1:48:55] Speaker 4: to that. But okay, so Nimrod was a Nephilim. The
[1:48:59] Speaker 4: Nephilim were there during the time of the flood. What
[1:49:02] Speaker 4: was the origin of it? So Nephilim, they were angelic
[1:49:05] Speaker 4: human hybrids. The origin of them were angels, Elohim, coming
[1:49:12] Speaker 4: down and having intercourse with women. This is very controversial
[1:49:16] Speaker 4: in Christian circles because it just seems very weird, and
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: it does. But it's there in the Bible. It's there
[1:49:22] Speaker 4: in the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch. And these Nephilim, they became,
[1:49:27] Speaker 4: as I said, the mighty men, the gibberim of old,
[1:49:29] Speaker 4: the men of renown. These were legendary figures. These were Hercules, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
[1:49:35] Speaker 4: There's a possibility that Nimrod was Gilgamesh. So how did
[1:49:40] Speaker 4: the Nephilim come about? Because there were, again, according to
[1:49:44] Speaker 4: the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch, there were 200 Elohim who
[1:49:49] Speaker 4: decided that they wanted to have their own children. They
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: were basically trying to mimic what the creator God did
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: by creating their own physical spiritual hybrids, which is what
[1:49:59] Speaker 4: human beings are. We are human. We are, we have flesh,
[1:50:02] Speaker 4: but we also have a spirit inside of us. They
[1:50:04] Speaker 4: wanted the same thing. And they, they, discovered through their
[1:50:07] Speaker 4: perception that they could do this by cohabitating with women.
[1:50:12] Speaker 4: So it says in Genesis chapter 6 that they took
[1:50:15] Speaker 4: wives of whomever they chose. Now, it sounds like there
[1:50:18] Speaker 4: wasn't much, that they didn't have much of a choice
[1:50:21] Speaker 4: of women. But when it says they took wives, that
[1:50:24] Speaker 4: doesn't just mean they just snatched a woman off the
[1:50:26] Speaker 4: streets and started having sex with her. No, and yet
[1:50:29] Speaker 4: that's why you have to understand the language and the
[1:50:31] Speaker 4: traditions and the culture of that time. And it says
[1:50:33] Speaker 4: took a wife. There's a process, that process of taking
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: a wife. I mean, you go to her father and
[1:50:39] Speaker 4: you give her father something in exchange for her. What
[1:50:44] Speaker 4: did the Elohim give the fathers of these women in
[1:50:47] Speaker 4: exchange for them? Knowledge. They gave them the secrets. And
[1:50:53] Speaker 4: it says, again, this isn't just me saying this. If
[1:50:56] Speaker 4: you read the book of Enoch, it says that these
[1:50:59] Speaker 4: Elohim taught men knowledge. things they didn't know. They taught
[1:51:02] Speaker 4: them about the stars. They taught them about warfare. They
[1:51:05] Speaker 4: taught them about spellcasting and enchantments. They basically gave secret knowledge.
[1:51:09] Speaker 4: So now we've gotten to the origin of the elites.
[1:51:14] Speaker 4: This is where the elites come from. This is the
[1:51:17] Speaker 4: origin of spiritual evil giving forbidden knowledge to human beings.
[1:51:23] Speaker 4: And they've carried this forward. Again, they have no creativity.
[1:51:26] Speaker 4: They have no free will. They're going to keep doing
[1:51:28] Speaker 4: the same things over and over again. So I'll stop
[1:51:31] Speaker 4: here because I know you want to get to the Nephilim. And,
[1:51:34] Speaker 4: of course, the next stage is to God himself, so
[1:51:37] Speaker 4: we'll get to that. But did you have any questions
[1:51:39] Speaker 4: about Nephilim?
[1:51:41] Speaker 1: No, let's get to that because I also, before we
[1:51:44] Speaker 1: want to close out, I want to get to the
[1:51:47] Speaker 1: life energy that these beings are trying to harness through
[1:51:51] Speaker 1: sacrifices as well.
[1:51:52] Speaker 4: Got it.
[1:51:53] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:51:53] Speaker 4: All right. So let's keep going. So the source of
[1:51:56] Speaker 4: the Nephilim are the fallen angels. What were the sources
[1:51:58] Speaker 4: of the fallen angels, the fallen Nephilim, excuse me, the
[1:52:01] Speaker 4: fallen Elohim? Well, of course, that's the creator God. And
[1:52:05] Speaker 4: the creator God, he was the first cause. There was
[1:52:09] Speaker 4: no preceding cause. We know this from physics that there's
[1:52:12] Speaker 4: no infinite regression. So there was nothing before the entity
[1:52:17] Speaker 4: that we call God, Jehovah Yahweh. So now we get
[1:52:20] Speaker 4: back to, now we're at the very beginning, Genesis 1.1.
[1:52:23] Speaker 4: In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
[1:52:27] Speaker 4: How did he do it? Well, he spoke the earth,
[1:52:32] Speaker 4: the physical realm, into existence. We see that in the narrative, which,
[1:52:35] Speaker 4: by the way, Genesis chapter 1 is a song. If
[1:52:40] Speaker 4: you look at it, it's a song. It's like it's poetry.
[1:52:42] Speaker 4: It's in stanzas. You see, you know, God said, let
[1:52:45] Speaker 4: there be light. There was light. Evening and morning were
[1:52:47] Speaker 4: day one. Then God said, let the waters be separated.
[1:52:52] Speaker 4: Evening and morning were day two. Each one of these
[1:52:54] Speaker 4: things happened in a stanza. So this is Hebrew poetry.
[1:52:57] Speaker 4: So God is actually singing the world into existence, which
[1:53:00] Speaker 4: is actually kind of cool when you think about it.
[1:53:05] Speaker 4: But the heavens, the spiritual realm, he didn't speak it
[1:53:08] Speaker 4: into existence. He thought it. So what does that tell
[1:53:11] Speaker 4: you about the spiritual realm? The spiritual realm is consciousness.
[1:53:15] Speaker 4: It's what folks call the ether. It's an unlimited source
[1:53:18] Speaker 4: of energy because consciousness. In the book of John, it
[1:53:21] Speaker 4: says that God is light and there is no darkness
[1:53:23] Speaker 4: in him at all. He's 100% light, 100% energy, infinite energy.
[1:53:27] Speaker 4: That is what the spiritual realm is. And the Elohim
[1:53:30] Speaker 4: are also made of this same energy. And it's said
[1:53:33] Speaker 4: in the Bible that angels are basically made out of fire,
[1:53:35] Speaker 4: out of energy. But he spoke the world into existence. Now,
[1:53:41] Speaker 4: this gets us to the heart of as above, so
[1:53:44] Speaker 4: below and predictive programming. God had to speak into one
[1:53:49] Speaker 4: realm in order for it to manifest in the other realm.
[1:53:53] Speaker 4: If you understand that core principle, you understand predictive programming.
[1:53:58] Speaker 4: I'll make it more plain as we go along. God
[1:54:01] Speaker 4: said in the spiritual realm, let there be light, animals, trees, mountains,
[1:54:06] Speaker 4: so forth and so on, and then it manifested. That
[1:54:08] Speaker 4: is a spiritual principle, as above in the heavens, so below.
[1:54:13] Speaker 4: I speak it in this realm, it manifests in the
[1:54:15] Speaker 4: other realm. And that works both ways. You can also
[1:54:19] Speaker 4: speak things in our material realm to have it manifest
[1:54:23] Speaker 4: in the heavenly realm. And that's when you get into
[1:54:26] Speaker 4: what prayer is on the legitimate side. Then on the
[1:54:29] Speaker 4: illegitimate side, now you're getting into what spell casting is.
[1:54:32] Speaker 4: You're getting into what magic is. It's not the way
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: things are supposed to be, but it's following the spiritual principle. Okay?
[1:54:42] Speaker 4: So we go forward. God creates everything. Then he creates...
[1:54:48] Speaker 4: man and woman. Now, he doesn't speak man into existence.
[1:54:51] Speaker 4: He doesn't say, let there be man. No, he forms man,
[1:54:54] Speaker 4: according to the Bible, out of the dust of the earth,
[1:54:57] Speaker 4: and then he breathes into him the breath of life.
[1:55:00] Speaker 4: That word breath is huach in Hebrew, or pneuma in Greek.
[1:55:05] Speaker 4: He basically put a spirit inside of a flesh body.
[1:55:08] Speaker 4: He creates the first material spiritual hybrid. That's what we are,
[1:55:13] Speaker 4: human beings. And he gave the man and the woman,
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: dominion over the material realms. This is yours. You guys
[1:55:21] Speaker 4: can do what you want with this world. Make this
[1:55:23] Speaker 4: whole world like Eden. He made the Garden of Eden,
[1:55:25] Speaker 4: a small area, which is actually on top of a mountain,
[1:55:28] Speaker 4: because we read in Ezekiel that Eden was on a mountain.
[1:55:32] Speaker 4: And mountains, for whatever reason, are areas where the veil
[1:55:38] Speaker 4: between the spiritual and the material realm are thinned. And
[1:55:41] Speaker 4: God dwelt on this mountain with Eden. And he basically
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: told Adam and Eve, make the world like Eden. Have
[1:55:47] Speaker 4: kids and go for it. But then you have the
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: temptation by the so-called serpent. I want to make it
[1:55:54] Speaker 4: very clear here. It was not a talking snake. That
[1:55:58] Speaker 4: word serpent is the word nachash, nachash in Hebrew. Now,
[1:56:03] Speaker 4: that word can mean snake if it's used as a noun,
[1:56:06] Speaker 4: but it was not used as a noun here. It's
[1:56:08] Speaker 4: used as a proper title. And as a proper title,
[1:56:11] Speaker 4: nachash means the shining one. So Adam and Eve were
[1:56:14] Speaker 4: not speaking to a snake. They were speaking to a shining,
[1:56:16] Speaker 4: luminescent being. It was the being that we probably, that
[1:56:19] Speaker 4: we refer to as Lucifer, the light bearer, Satan, the devil.
[1:56:22] Speaker 4: And he tempted them and they fell. But let's get back.
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: So now we're going forward. Now, and you have this dominion,
[1:56:31] Speaker 4: but man still had dominion over the earth. But the
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: Elohim decided that we want to have something that we're
[1:56:40] Speaker 4: not supposed to have. If you want to look at
[1:56:41] Speaker 4: the origin of what we call sin, It's basically wanting
[1:56:45] Speaker 4: to have something that is outside of the plan of God.
[1:56:49] Speaker 4: The plan of Adam and Eve were for them to
[1:56:51] Speaker 4: be the rulers of the earth, but they decided they want, no, no,
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: we want to have what the Elohim have. We want
[1:56:55] Speaker 4: to be like the gods. That was a temptation. If
[1:56:58] Speaker 4: you eat this fruit, you will be like the gods.
[1:57:00] Speaker 4: We want more than what we were allotted. That was sin.
[1:57:03] Speaker 4: These fallen angels, these fallen Elohim, they wanted something that
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: they were not allotted. They wanted to have children like God.
[1:57:10] Speaker 4: They wanted to be like God. They wanted to have
[1:57:12] Speaker 4: their own spiritual life. material hybrids. And that's when they
[1:57:16] Speaker 4: came down, got with the women, gave knowledge to their
[1:57:20] Speaker 4: fathers in exchange for having these women and having the Nephilim.
[1:57:26] Speaker 4: So I want to get to the blood sacrifice part.
[1:57:29] Speaker 4: So after Adam and Eve, so I went ahead to
[1:57:31] Speaker 4: the Nephilim, but before that you had Cain and Abel.
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: Eve has her first child named Cain. Now keep in
[1:57:38] Speaker 4: mind something about Cain. When after Adam and Eve sinned
[1:57:42] Speaker 4: and God first he judged the Nakash, but he also
[1:57:46] Speaker 4: placed a judgment on Adam and Eve. It wasn't the
[1:57:48] Speaker 4: same kind of judgment. It wasn't a permanent judgment. It
[1:57:50] Speaker 4: was more of an alteration of the plan. He said, Adam,
[1:57:54] Speaker 4: you'll still rule over the earth, but it's going to
[1:57:56] Speaker 4: be tough for you now. The world is not going
[1:57:58] Speaker 4: to obey you. You're going to have to work in
[1:58:00] Speaker 4: order to have dominion over the earth. And he told
[1:58:04] Speaker 4: the woman, you're going to have pain in your relationships
[1:58:06] Speaker 4: and in your childbearing. But what he also said to
[1:58:09] Speaker 4: the Nakash, he said that I'm going to put enmity
[1:58:13] Speaker 4: between you and the woman and between her seed and
[1:58:16] Speaker 4: your seed. And her seed, the seed of the woman,
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: will crush the head of the Nakash. Basically, that was
[1:58:22] Speaker 4: the first prediction of a messianic figure. He said that
[1:58:25] Speaker 4: a descendant of Eve is going to undo what was
[1:58:28] Speaker 4: done here. So Eve has a child. Now, God didn't
[1:58:32] Speaker 4: put a timeline on this. Eve has a son. So
[1:58:34] Speaker 4: what does she naturally think? She probably thinks, well, this
[1:58:36] Speaker 4: is it. I just had a son. This must be
[1:58:39] Speaker 4: the one who's going to crush the head of the serpent,
[1:58:42] Speaker 4: of the health of Nakash. So Cain grows up thinking, hey,
[1:58:45] Speaker 4: I'm the guy. I'm the Messiah. Then she has another son, Abel.
[1:58:49] Speaker 4: And according to the narrative, they both brought a sacrifice
[1:58:52] Speaker 4: to God. Abel brought a lamb, and Cain brought his
[1:58:57] Speaker 4: goods from the earth. And God had favor on Abel's gift,
[1:59:01] Speaker 4: but not on Cain's. So now Cain's like, wait a minute.
[1:59:03] Speaker 4: I thought I was the Messiah, but God likes my
[1:59:06] Speaker 4: brother better. How do I change this? If I kill
[1:59:10] Speaker 4: my brother, then God has no choice but to make
[1:59:12] Speaker 4: me the Messiah again. That's kind of my, I'm extrapolating now.
[1:59:16] Speaker 4: So that's what I believe happened. But here's the point.
[1:59:20] Speaker 4: After he kills Abel, God says something very interesting to Cain.
[1:59:23] Speaker 4: He says, what have you done? The voice of your
[1:59:26] Speaker 4: brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. something
[1:59:30] Speaker 4: about blood hitting the ground seemed to create a disturbance
[1:59:34] Speaker 4: in the spiritual realm. And we see this throughout the Bible,
[1:59:39] Speaker 4: that when blood hits the ground, it thins that veil
[1:59:42] Speaker 4: between our two realms. Blood has that life energy. That
[1:59:47] Speaker 4: life energy somehow thins the veil and allows spiritual energy
[1:59:53] Speaker 4: to cross from one to the other. And that is
[1:59:58] Speaker 4: why All these rituals always have blood or sex involved
[2:00:02] Speaker 4: because it's thinning the veil and allowing spiritual evil to
[2:00:06] Speaker 4: come through. And when you think about some of the
[2:00:08] Speaker 4: greatest times of bloodshed in our world and think about
[2:00:12] Speaker 4: what happened after it. World War II, 50 million people
[2:00:16] Speaker 4: were killed. That's a lot of blood. What happened right
[2:00:19] Speaker 4: after that? UFO phenomena. Two years after World War II ended. 9-11, bloodshed.
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: What happens after that? You see evil ramping up. So
[2:00:30] Speaker 4: you can trace big shifts in our, I guess you
[2:00:35] Speaker 4: could call it, in our condition to great times of bloodshed.
[2:00:41] Speaker 1: Yes, it's like they're using these massive rituals to bring
[2:00:45] Speaker 1: about these new eras based on blood sacrifices.
[2:00:50] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:00:51] Speaker 4: So I want to get, I know we're going to
[2:00:52] Speaker 4: get up to time, so I'm just going to kind
[2:00:54] Speaker 4: of fly back to the future, as it were, to
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: get to where we canonize the as above, so below. Okay,
[2:01:01] Speaker 4: so the Nephilim happen, and God floods the earth. And
[2:01:05] Speaker 4: not to kill people, by the way, because it's very
[2:01:07] Speaker 4: strongly implied in Genesis chapter 6 that Noah and his
[2:01:10] Speaker 4: family were the only pure humans left. After about 2,000
[2:01:14] Speaker 4: years of Nephilim inhabitants, it says that Noah was a
[2:01:17] Speaker 4: just man and perfect in his generation's. That term perfect
[2:01:21] Speaker 4: speaks to, in the Hebrew, speaks to a physical blemish.
[2:01:25] Speaker 4: So he's contrasting Noah and his family with the rest
[2:01:28] Speaker 4: of humanity. Apparently, they've all been corrupted. And yes, I
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: do believe that the Nephilim happened to be giants. They
[2:01:34] Speaker 4: were of a taller structure, taller stature. And keep in mind,
[2:01:39] Speaker 4: speed of light back then. That probably affected not only
[2:01:42] Speaker 4: the longevity of lives, but also how fast things grow.
[2:01:47] Speaker 4: Maybe that's where the dinosaurs came in. Don't know. That's possible.
[2:01:51] Speaker 4: But so Noah and his family, they lead to Babel
[2:01:57] Speaker 4: with Nimrod. We talked about that. And that leads us
[2:01:59] Speaker 4: all the way forward to those empires. So let's go
[2:02:02] Speaker 4: to the empire of Babel. So we had Babel, then
[2:02:07] Speaker 4: we have Egypt, Assyria, and then Babylon, which is not
[2:02:12] Speaker 4: to be confused with Babel. Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar. That's during
[2:02:14] Speaker 4: the time of the prophet Daniel. And here's where we
[2:02:17] Speaker 4: get the canonization of of as above, so below, as
[2:02:20] Speaker 4: far as predictive programming is concerned. Daniel was living during
[2:02:24] Speaker 4: the time of the Babylonian Empire. Actually, as the Babylonian
[2:02:27] Speaker 4: Empire is being taken over by the Medo-Persian Empire. He's right,
[2:02:31] Speaker 4: he lived during that time. While this is happening, during
[2:02:35] Speaker 4: this period, and Daniel becomes basically the prime minister of
[2:02:38] Speaker 4: Babylon because of his interaction with Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel's given a
[2:02:43] Speaker 4: vision of these four beasts. And these four beasts represent
[2:02:51] Speaker 4: world empires. He's given a vision of a lion with wings,
[2:02:55] Speaker 4: which represents Babylon. Then the next vision is of a
[2:03:00] Speaker 4: bear that is raised up on one side, and that's
[2:03:03] Speaker 4: the Medo-Persian empire. He's given this interpretation by another Elohim
[2:03:08] Speaker 4: after this. Then he gets a vision of a leopard
[2:03:11] Speaker 4: with four heads, which is the Greek empire under Alexander.
[2:03:16] Speaker 4: And it's canonized by the fact that When Alexander the
[2:03:20] Speaker 4: Great died, he didn't have any descendants because he was gay.
[2:03:22] Speaker 4: He didn't have children. His empire went to his four generals.
[2:03:26] Speaker 4: That's the four heads. And then finally, he has this
[2:03:29] Speaker 4: vision of this great and terrible beast, which is indescribable.
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: And this beast has a horn. He has seven heads.
[2:03:36] Speaker 4: This beast has seven heads and ten horns. And one
[2:03:38] Speaker 4: of the horns speaks like a man and basically conquers
[2:03:42] Speaker 4: the world. And so Daniel's like, what does this mean?
[2:03:45] Speaker 4: And the angel, an Elohim comes down and tells him,
[2:03:47] Speaker 4: here is the interpretation of the vision. These four empires
[2:03:51] Speaker 4: are going to be the end of history. You're going
[2:03:55] Speaker 4: to have the Babylonian Empire, the Medo-Persian Empire, the Greek Empire,
[2:04:00] Speaker 4: and the Roman Empire. And the Roman Empire is going
[2:04:03] Speaker 4: to last till the end of time. That's why it
[2:04:07] Speaker 4: was important to do that backtracing and understand that the
[2:04:10] Speaker 4: people who run the world today are descendants of the
[2:04:13] Speaker 4: bankers who were the bankers of the Vatican. The Roman
[2:04:17] Speaker 4: Empire never went away. It was never conquered. It just
[2:04:21] Speaker 4: transformed from a dictatorship, a senatorial dictatorship to a theocracy.
[2:04:30] Speaker 4: The same people who were funding the Vatican are the
[2:04:34] Speaker 4: same people who were funding the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and whoever else,
[2:04:37] Speaker 4: Bill Gates, whoever else you want to talk about. The
[2:04:39] Speaker 4: Roman Empire still exists. So, okay, that's that last beast.
[2:04:44] Speaker 4: But then here's what's interesting. After that happens, and he
[2:04:48] Speaker 4: sees all the beasts, and so this is basically the
[2:04:49] Speaker 4: plan of the spiritual evil. This is their whole plan.
[2:04:54] Speaker 4: It says, then, after that vision, he sees another vision
[2:04:58] Speaker 4: of God, of the Bible, Jehovah, and then thrones are
[2:05:01] Speaker 4: placed around him, and books are opened, and judgment is rendered.
[2:05:06] Speaker 4: And then after the judgment is rendered, it says that
[2:05:09] Speaker 4: all of these empires are going to be destroyed, And
[2:05:12] Speaker 4: their power, the earth, the whole earth is going to
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: be given over to a son of man riding on
[2:05:19] Speaker 4: the clouds. What does that mean? The cloud rider is
[2:05:23] Speaker 4: one of the titles of Jehovah, of the God of
[2:05:26] Speaker 4: the Bible. So you have a son of man, a
[2:05:28] Speaker 4: human being riding on the clouds. You have a human
[2:05:31] Speaker 4: being with the authority of Jehovah. Well, that's Jesus. And
[2:05:35] Speaker 4: he is going to be the one who inherits the
[2:05:37] Speaker 4: whole earth. So that, in a nutshell, is the entire
[2:05:39] Speaker 4: story of the Bible. The rest of the Bible from
[2:05:41] Speaker 4: Daniel to the end is just the walking through of
[2:05:45] Speaker 4: that prophecy. What does this have to do with as above,
[2:05:48] Speaker 4: so below? The bad guys, the spiritual evil, the Nakash
[2:05:53] Speaker 4: and all the other angels, they had to state their
[2:05:57] Speaker 4: plan in the heavenly realm in order for it to
[2:06:01] Speaker 4: manifest on the earth. And once they stated their plan,
[2:06:06] Speaker 4: it was it.
[2:06:06] Speaker 3: It's done.
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: It's going to happen. So that's why God could legitimately say, okay,
[2:06:11] Speaker 4: that's your plan. Gotcha. That's done. Now I am going
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: to state my plan. I'm going to wipe you guys out.
[2:06:17] Speaker 4: I'm going to judge you. And I'm going to put
[2:06:19] Speaker 4: a man with my authority, Jesus, the divine son of God,
[2:06:24] Speaker 4: he's going to be the one who inherits this whole earth.
[2:06:27] Speaker 4: So you guys are going to lose. So the bad
[2:06:30] Speaker 4: guy spoke something in the spiritual realm that manifested. Because again,
[2:06:36] Speaker 4: this was during the Medo-Persian Empire. And the other empires
[2:06:40] Speaker 4: happen exactly as Daniel prophesies. And then God says, here's
[2:06:44] Speaker 4: what I'm going to do. And now my role is
[2:06:46] Speaker 4: playing out. My plan is playing out. So that's when
[2:06:51] Speaker 4: I read that. That's when I got the epiphany. This
[2:06:53] Speaker 4: is what they're doing. This is why they have to
[2:06:55] Speaker 4: speak these things. This is why they have to say them.
[2:06:58] Speaker 4: This is why they have to do predictive programming. They
[2:07:01] Speaker 4: have to have the movie The Matrix with Neo's driver's
[2:07:05] Speaker 4: license expiring on September 11th. 2001, two years before, because
[2:07:11] Speaker 4: they have to put it out there. They are obeying
[2:07:13] Speaker 4: a spiritual principle. That's why you have the meme with
[2:07:17] Speaker 4: the Simpsons, where you have Bart Simpson holding up a
[2:07:19] Speaker 4: magazine with the Twin Towers on it with the word 9-11.
[2:07:22] Speaker 4: They knew this was going to happen, and they wanted
[2:07:26] Speaker 4: it to be a part of their spiritual conquest, their
[2:07:30] Speaker 4: spiritual plan. So they had to speak it in this realm.
[2:07:33] Speaker 4: It had to be shown so that it would manifest.
[2:07:36] Speaker 4: They are forced to do it.
[2:07:38] Speaker 1: Such interesting insights, Ed. Thank you so much for coming on.
[2:07:42] Speaker 1: And we barely scratched the surface of some of this stuff.
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: I know. I'm definitely going to have to have you
[2:07:47] Speaker 1: back on in the future. We'll get even deeper into this. Now,
[2:07:51] Speaker 1: before you head out, remind the audience how they can
[2:07:54] Speaker 1: find all your content.
[2:07:55] Speaker 4: Again, do you mind if I take one more minute
[2:07:57] Speaker 4: to say one more quick thing?
[2:07:59] Speaker 3: Yes, sure, here.
[2:08:00] Speaker 4: Because I want to blow the minds of your Christian
[2:08:02] Speaker 4: listeners real quick.
[2:08:03] Speaker 2: Go for it.
[2:08:03] Speaker 4: Remember how I just said that when blood hits the ground,
[2:08:08] Speaker 4: it opens up, it bends a veil, it opens up
[2:08:10] Speaker 4: a portal? Well, the reason why these sick bastards, and
[2:08:14] Speaker 4: I say this as a father, want to do this
[2:08:17] Speaker 4: to kids, you know, and the blood of children is
[2:08:20] Speaker 4: because innocent blood has the most power, apparently. So that's
[2:08:26] Speaker 4: why they sacrifice children, these sick. As a father of
[2:08:30] Speaker 4: two young children, it just kills me to think about
[2:08:33] Speaker 4: the horrible things they're doing to children. But who had
[2:08:37] Speaker 4: the most innocent blood ever? The most innocent blood would
[2:08:40] Speaker 4: be someone who never did anything wrong. The reason that
[2:08:42] Speaker 4: children are innocent is because they have done very little wrong. Well,
[2:08:45] Speaker 4: according to Christian philosophy, Jesus never sinned, meaning that Jesus
[2:08:50] Speaker 4: would have had the most innocent blood ever. What happened
[2:08:53] Speaker 4: to Jesus? He was crucified unjustly. His blood hit the ground.
[2:08:58] Speaker 4: When his blood hit the ground, it opened the most
[2:09:00] Speaker 4: powerful portal into the heavenlies. That's what salvation is, according
[2:09:07] Speaker 4: to Christian philosophy. The blood of Jesus allows human beings,
[2:09:11] Speaker 4: all of us if you are a believer, to go
[2:09:14] Speaker 4: through that portal, as it were, into the heavens. That's
[2:09:18] Speaker 4: why there's the saying that we are saved by the
[2:09:21] Speaker 4: blood of Jesus, because his blood hitting the ground allowed
[2:09:25] Speaker 4: us to be able to go into the heavens in
[2:09:29] Speaker 4: a spiritual way once we're out of these bodies. So again,
[2:09:33] Speaker 4: that's what I do with Faith by Reason. I try
[2:09:34] Speaker 4: to take our Christian dogma and put it into a logical, reasonable,
[2:09:39] Speaker 4: and scientific atmosphere.
[2:09:44] Speaker 1: Excellent.
[2:09:44] Speaker 4: So I want to drop out.
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.
[2:09:48] Speaker 4: So let me get to what you were asking before.
[2:09:51] Speaker 4: So thank you again for having me on the show.
[2:09:53] Speaker 4: My website is www.faithbyreason.net, not.
[2:09:59] Speaker 3: Com.
[2:09:59] Speaker 4: That's a completely different site. So faithbyreason.net. My YouTube channel,
[2:10:04] Speaker 4: you can find me about the same way, Faith by Reason.
[2:10:06] Speaker 4: I'm doing a series on Revelation right now. I'm up to,
[2:10:08] Speaker 4: I think, 54 episodes and I'm getting towards the end
[2:10:11] Speaker 4: of that. I just started a rumble channel recently because
[2:10:14] Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm going to get kicked off of YouTube soon.
[2:10:16] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:10:18] Speaker 4: So you can go to my rumble channel as well.
[2:10:21] Speaker 4: I've just started uploading videos every week to rumble. So
[2:10:24] Speaker 4: if you want to start at the beginning, you can,
[2:10:26] Speaker 4: I think I'm only on like maybe six videos so
[2:10:28] Speaker 4: far going that way. And yeah, so that's how you
[2:10:32] Speaker 4: can find me and thank you. And it's been great
[2:10:34] Speaker 4: talking to you.
[2:10:35] Speaker 2: Wonderful.
[2:10:35] Speaker 1: Yes, this has been excellent. Like I said, we'll definitely
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