# Mike Sygula | The Reincarnation Trap, Deceptive Soul Contracts, Masks of the Archons

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 23 Jul 2026, 1 h 12 min.

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[0:02] Speaker 1: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
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[0:41] Speaker 1: want to welcome back to the show Mike's Aguila. He
[0:43] Speaker 1: is the founder of Truetheory dot com. He is a
[0:46] Speaker 1: mentor and spiritual development coach, helping his clients to align
[0:50] Speaker 1: with their true purpose. Mike, welcome back.
[0:53] Speaker 2: How you doing, Hey, Chris, good to be back after
[0:57] Speaker 2: probably something like two years. Yeah, so a lot is happening,
[1:03] Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm glad to talk about the topic today,
[1:06] Speaker 2: which I think is really important and I noticed that
[1:10] Speaker 2: not that many people talk about it or understand it.
[1:14] Speaker 1: I think, yes, it has been a while and I
[1:18] Speaker 1: am looking forward to this as well. You bring a
[1:20] Speaker 1: unique perspective to many of the topics that we cover
[1:23] Speaker 1: here today. You wanted to get into reincarnation traps and
[1:27] Speaker 1: soul contracts, as well as other aspects of afterlife mechanics.
[1:31] Speaker 1: Some of my favorite shows are hearing about people's near
[1:35] Speaker 1: death experiences and the understandings that they come back with.
[1:39] Speaker 1: Most of our ancient ancestors most likely knew much more
[1:43] Speaker 1: about the afterlife and spent much of their incarnations preparing
[1:48] Speaker 1: for that journey, which I think is something very lacking
[1:51] Speaker 1: in today's society. So, like you said, I agree, this
[1:54] Speaker 1: is a very important topic to get into before we do.
[1:58] Speaker 1: For those that may not be from me or remember
[2:01] Speaker 1: your last appearance, tell us a little bit about yourself
[2:03] Speaker 1: and let the audience know how they can find more.
[2:06] Speaker 2: Yeah. So my name is Mike Segula. I'm originally from Poland,
[2:11] Speaker 2: but I also have British citizenship as I lift in
[2:16] Speaker 2: different countries for over seventeen years, and I've started the
[2:21] Speaker 2: brand called True Theory, which I have been running for
[2:25] Speaker 2: something like sixteen years already, and I've been basically fascinated
[2:31] Speaker 2: with topics from you know, conspiracies you fos, to shamanism,
[2:37] Speaker 2: spirituality for something like over twenty years. And you know,
[2:43] Speaker 2: I also do these energy clearing sessions which are done online,
[2:50] Speaker 2: and I work with the psychic or intuitive where we
[2:54] Speaker 2: try to tap into like energetic attachments and things like that.
[2:59] Speaker 2: So I do a lot of different things, you know,
[3:01] Speaker 2: focusing a little bit of on content, educating people on
[3:05] Speaker 2: these topics and also doing some practice and things like that.
[3:11] Speaker 1: Excellent, and your main website where everybody can find your
[3:15] Speaker 1: content is True Theory.
[3:17] Speaker 2: True Fury dot Com or just on social media as
[3:22] Speaker 2: Truth Theory or Mike Saigula right on.
[3:27] Speaker 1: You and I were speaking a bit about the current
[3:32] Speaker 1: state of awareness that people are at. You mentioned you
[3:37] Speaker 1: are in Poland and you're starting to focus on the
[3:40] Speaker 1: awakening there because a lot more people are starting to
[3:44] Speaker 1: become aware of things. Tell us a little bit more
[3:47] Speaker 1: about what it's like out there.
[3:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, it's interesting because Poland has been
[3:53] Speaker 2: going through massive redevelopment since like the communist era, which
[3:58] Speaker 2: you know ended in late eighties, So you can say
[4:02] Speaker 2: that Poland was a pretty poor country in early nineties,
[4:07] Speaker 2: and now I heard it's like twentieth economy in the world.
[4:12] Speaker 2: So there's been a massive shift going on over the
[4:16] Speaker 2: last maybe twenty to thirty years. And I noticed that,
[4:21] Speaker 2: you know, since maybe COVID more or less, this is
[4:24] Speaker 2: more or less when I've been back after you know,
[4:28] Speaker 2: being outside of Poland for seventeen years, a lot of
[4:33] Speaker 2: people came back to Poland, a lot of people who
[4:35] Speaker 2: moved abroad, you know, to the UK or Ireland or
[4:38] Speaker 2: somewhere else. And there's been a big shift in many
[4:44] Speaker 2: different ways. You know, a lot of people who learned
[4:46] Speaker 2: many things in the West came back with that knowledge
[4:49] Speaker 2: or education or skills and things like that. So I
[4:52] Speaker 2: noticed that for the last maybe five or six years.
[4:56] Speaker 2: Also the whole thing about personal development, spirituality, or just
[5:03] Speaker 2: general awareness about some of the topics that we like
[5:06] Speaker 2: to focus on. I've been just exploding here, you know,
[5:11] Speaker 2: just looking at festivals. Let's say we're talking about these
[5:16] Speaker 2: kind of conscious festivals where you have workshops and speakers
[5:21] Speaker 2: and talks and things like that focusing on spirituality or
[5:27] Speaker 2: any kind of topic like we like. I think I
[5:30] Speaker 2: can count like fifty to one hundred festivals in the
[5:34] Speaker 2: summer in Poland, you know, and maybe five six years
[5:39] Speaker 2: ago you would have like five or something. So I
[5:42] Speaker 2: think that tells you quite a lot. And also the
[5:46] Speaker 2: number of YouTube channels and podcasts and everything. So I thought,
[5:51] Speaker 2: since I speak the language and you know, this is
[5:54] Speaker 2: where I'm from, I wanted to kind of join the
[5:57] Speaker 2: right the wave, let's say, and contribute a little bit
[6:01] Speaker 2: as well. So last kind of three years, I've been
[6:05] Speaker 2: focusing quite a lot on you know, Polish audience and
[6:11] Speaker 2: still still doing English speaking countries. But I also had
[6:16] Speaker 2: some major issues with Facebook. They just demonetized me. Like
[6:20] Speaker 2: a month ago. I have this two point two million
[6:24] Speaker 2: following page on Facebook and it just got demonetized again.
[6:29] Speaker 2: And you know, I just had to focus on other
[6:33] Speaker 2: things as well in the meantime. So it's always the
[6:35] Speaker 2: same thing, you know, it's always like fighting with censorship
[6:41] Speaker 2: and things like that and doing what you can and
[6:44] Speaker 2: you know, things of this nature.
[6:46] Speaker 1: I understand still shadow band here as well, and it's
[6:50] Speaker 1: a constant battle. Where would you like to start with
[6:54] Speaker 1: the topic of reincarnation and afterlife traps? As I was
[6:58] Speaker 1: saying in my intro, I think this is something that
[7:01] Speaker 1: our modern society should have a much better understanding of,
[7:06] Speaker 1: because more people are becoming curious about reality and becoming
[7:11] Speaker 1: aware of at least the corrupt nature of reality. There's
[7:15] Speaker 1: been a big resurgence in gnosticism and people looking at
[7:20] Speaker 1: gnostic spiritual traditions to try to understand reality, because reality
[7:26] Speaker 1: in our modern age does seem quite oppressive all of
[7:29] Speaker 1: our systems that were subjected to so that ultimately leads
[7:33] Speaker 1: many to believe that even the afterlife is under control
[7:38] Speaker 1: by negative forces. Where should we start with understanding that
[7:43] Speaker 1: and reincarnation?
[7:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, we often hear these stories, maybe
[7:50] Speaker 2: from people who have had a near deive experiences where
[7:54] Speaker 2: they have some kind of life review process, or they
[7:59] Speaker 2: see that tunnel of light, you know, the light is overwhelming,
[8:04] Speaker 2: or they feel love and things like that, and then
[8:06] Speaker 2: they are drawn towards this light and very often at
[8:12] Speaker 2: the end, maybe they're gonna have some spirit guides, some
[8:16] Speaker 2: kind of counsel, sometimes maybe a voice of some god
[8:20] Speaker 2: or whatever judging them, showing them maybe you know, live review,
[8:27] Speaker 2: showing what negative deeds they have done in their lives.
[8:32] Speaker 2: I know at least two people who had neartive experiences
[8:36] Speaker 2: like that, and they told me about it. I'm sure
[8:42] Speaker 2: you've heard these types of stories, right, Oh yeah, many times.
[8:46] Speaker 2: So you know, in the past, I used to think
[8:50] Speaker 2: that this is just a normal kind of mechanics of reincarnation.
[8:56] Speaker 2: After physical death, we might have to experience something like that,
[9:01] Speaker 2: and then very often we are guided to maybe come
[9:07] Speaker 2: back to repay some karma some of these negative deeds
[9:10] Speaker 2: and things like that. And a lot of these negative
[9:14] Speaker 2: incarnations where we suffer a lot might be assosated with
[9:21] Speaker 2: us doing something negative in the previous incarnations and things
[9:25] Speaker 2: like that. And you know, for the last couple of years,
[9:31] Speaker 2: one of the things that I've been focusing on is
[9:34] Speaker 2: I'm doing these regressive hypnosis sessions. There are two types.
[9:40] Speaker 2: So one is where you can examine a topic. You know,
[9:45] Speaker 2: it's like researching some topics, so for example, different people
[9:49] Speaker 2: who do hypnosis or you know, intuitives try to gain
[9:54] Speaker 2: some information about particular topic. And then another is working
[10:00] Speaker 2: with clients. So this is a little bit different because
[10:03] Speaker 2: you work with someone and you gain their permission and
[10:06] Speaker 2: you can tap into their lives and you know what
[10:08] Speaker 2: they've been doing and things like that, and we normally
[10:11] Speaker 2: work in choose, so I work with the psychic. So
[10:15] Speaker 2: the psychic is like my eyes in astral realm, and
[10:19] Speaker 2: I'm the one guiding him to tap into some situation
[10:24] Speaker 2: or do some remote viewing or something like that. And
[10:28] Speaker 2: what we discovered through these techniques, and it's not only me,
[10:33] Speaker 2: but several other people who have been doing similar things,
[10:38] Speaker 2: we started noticing very often, you know, this whole situation
[10:43] Speaker 2: with live review, with the tunnel of light and things
[10:46] Speaker 2: like that, and when we try to gain accurate information
[10:51] Speaker 2: and you know, really see who are these helpers or
[10:54] Speaker 2: what's going on there, we just discovered that it is
[11:00] Speaker 2: always like reptilions or insectoids race and very often, you know,
[11:08] Speaker 2: what happens is that they can camouflage themselves to appear
[11:14] Speaker 2: as whatever. You know, if you believe in this religion,
[11:17] Speaker 2: it can show in this form if you you know,
[11:22] Speaker 2: sometimes it's just voice of God, sometimes it's just like
[11:25] Speaker 2: some counsel. But what we you know, this is my
[11:31] Speaker 2: conclusion now that they can kind of use some technologies
[11:36] Speaker 2: to change form. And even when you feel like radiating
[11:42] Speaker 2: love or the light is amazing, this is harvested from people.
[11:49] Speaker 2: So for example, you know, when you go to the
[11:51] Speaker 2: church and people pray and do these types of things,
[11:55] Speaker 2: this is very often harvested for this need as one
[11:59] Speaker 2: of the needs. You know, sometimes it's for other things
[12:03] Speaker 2: as well, So like you know, let's say someone goes
[12:07] Speaker 2: to church and I don't know, they do some ritual
[12:11] Speaker 2: or something, or they pray to some God whatever or
[12:14] Speaker 2: some Jesus or whatever archangel and suddenly they felt some
[12:19] Speaker 2: you know, love or presence for a moment that had
[12:22] Speaker 2: some uplifting moment. And this is very often the same system.
[12:27] Speaker 2: So you know, the energy that is being harvested is
[12:31] Speaker 2: being used to get people persuaded that this works, and
[12:36] Speaker 2: you know, in this setting, but it's also the same
[12:38] Speaker 2: with what's happening after reincarnations, and then you know, the
[12:44] Speaker 2: whole thing is about trying to convince the soul to
[12:49] Speaker 2: come back to earth and experience maybe some difficult life
[12:55] Speaker 2: and agree to a certain soul plan that is manipulated.
[13:00] Speaker 2: And then you know, the beings normally get access to
[13:04] Speaker 2: the soul level because there is some agreement there. So
[13:09] Speaker 2: it's a kind of like partially you know your own choice,
[13:13] Speaker 2: but it's manipulated as.
[13:15] Speaker 1: Well, so you and the psychic that you're working with
[13:20] Speaker 1: are taking people through these regressions, and when you get
[13:24] Speaker 1: to a certain level, a deeper layer, you understand or
[13:28] Speaker 1: uncover that their relatives or loved ones are really reptilians
[13:34] Speaker 1: or aliens in disguise to try and manipulate you.
[13:37] Speaker 2: It really depends, you know, the forms are different, so
[13:42] Speaker 2: sometimes you know, it can be like the tunnel of
[13:45] Speaker 2: light and then some kind of helpers or councils or whatever.
[13:51] Speaker 2: I personally never had a case yet where there would
[13:56] Speaker 2: be a loved one that would actually, you know, try
[13:59] Speaker 2: to come af launch, but I heard that they can
[14:01] Speaker 2: appear in this way as well. Like when my cousin
[14:04] Speaker 2: had Near the experience, he just found a voice of God,
[14:10] Speaker 2: you know, kind of sounding like a voice of God.
[14:13] Speaker 2: So it's just voice sounding intelligently and showing him, you know,
[14:18] Speaker 2: all the bad things he was doing in his life
[14:21] Speaker 2: and saying to him, because he when he had a
[14:24] Speaker 2: Near the experience, it was like the voice was saying
[14:27] Speaker 2: to him, do you want to come back? You know,
[14:30] Speaker 2: do you want to finish this incarnation or do you
[14:33] Speaker 2: want to go back? And he was like, oh, you know,
[14:38] Speaker 2: and he had very tough life, you know, so like
[14:41] Speaker 2: addiction issues, his father was beating him up since he
[14:45] Speaker 2: was a child, all these things, right, So he overdose
[14:50] Speaker 2: one time and he found himself in this near the
[14:53] Speaker 2: experience kind of state, and the voice just said to
[14:57] Speaker 2: him something like, you know, your brain overheating. You're gonna
[15:02] Speaker 2: die in a couple of minutes or seconds or something
[15:06] Speaker 2: like that. Do you want to stay or do you
[15:08] Speaker 2: want to leave? And then he told me that, you know,
[15:11] Speaker 2: his whole life was shown to him instantly, and he
[15:16] Speaker 2: was like, you know, he had enough of this life,
[15:19] Speaker 2: so he said he wants to leave. He's thinking of leaving,
[15:23] Speaker 2: something like that, and the voice then showed him like
[15:27] Speaker 2: said to him, you know, you're gonna have to repeat
[15:29] Speaker 2: everything you've been doing, or you're gonna have to do
[15:32] Speaker 2: a lot of things again because you still have some
[15:35] Speaker 2: things to do. So it's kind of like Then he said, okay,
[15:39] Speaker 2: I don't maybe I gonna go back in this case.
[15:42] Speaker 2: I don't want to be like repeating and stuff like that.
[15:46] Speaker 2: And then the voice, you know, my cousin was like still.
[15:50] Speaker 2: The voice said something like you still have a few
[15:54] Speaker 2: more moments. Is there anything you want to know? And
[15:57] Speaker 2: he said, I want to know why my life look
[16:00] Speaker 2: the way it looks, you know, it's so full of suffering,
[16:02] Speaker 2: blah blah. And then the voice showed him situation from
[16:07] Speaker 2: you know, one of his past lives. We believe this
[16:11] Speaker 2: is true, you know, but it was kind of to
[16:13] Speaker 2: show him like past life being reptilian actually in feeding
[16:18] Speaker 2: of and like some suffering and stuff like that, and
[16:22] Speaker 2: showed him and explained him like your life is so
[16:26] Speaker 2: bad because like this is the karma or something like that,
[16:29] Speaker 2: or you chose it because you wanted to experience the opposite,
[16:33] Speaker 2: or how you know, some of the people or others
[16:36] Speaker 2: felt in your presence. So when you know, it sounded
[16:40] Speaker 2: very convincing. And that was a couple of years ago.
[16:44] Speaker 2: But after a while and when we were using the
[16:48] Speaker 2: techniques to try to examine the real form and everything,
[16:53] Speaker 2: we realized that it was just one of these tricks.
[16:57] Speaker 2: And this is very often, you know, when we check,
[17:03] Speaker 2: because you can check what's going on in these sessions
[17:06] Speaker 2: on the exact level, because everything that happens, you know,
[17:11] Speaker 2: that's why they are not forcing you you agree yourself, right,
[17:15] Speaker 2: because there is a free will aspect, so you know,
[17:21] Speaker 2: it's not like someone gonna tell you oh, you know,
[17:24] Speaker 2: you go back and you have difficult life, and we're
[17:26] Speaker 2: gonna feed off your loosh energy or emotions or whatever.
[17:32] Speaker 2: You're gonna do it yourself. So it's like a little
[17:34] Speaker 2: bit like you know, you would have a salesman that
[17:39] Speaker 2: comes to knocks to your door and sells use some
[17:42] Speaker 2: crappy phone or something, and you are the one that
[17:46] Speaker 2: bought it. You know, you didn't realize that he was
[17:50] Speaker 2: cheating on your trying to rip you off. So it's
[17:53] Speaker 2: a little bit like this. And yeah, I mean so far,
[17:58] Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there anything you wanted well add.
[18:01] Speaker 1: From everything that you've learned from these hypnosis experiences. Would
[18:06] Speaker 1: you say that the realm was designed this way? Or
[18:10] Speaker 1: has there been some sort of infiltration by these negative forces?
[18:15] Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts about that?
[18:19] Speaker 2: I mean, you mean, like the physical reality.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Our entirea, even the afterlife. According to what you're saying,
[18:27] Speaker 1: these beings are quite deceptive to get us to come
[18:30] Speaker 1: back and experience this again. Is that the natural way
[18:33] Speaker 1: this realm was built for us? Or has there been
[18:37] Speaker 1: some sort of parasitic infiltration?
[18:40] Speaker 2: I mean, so, for example, one thing that comes from
[18:45] Speaker 2: these sessions is that the tunnel of light, which is
[18:49] Speaker 2: not something that appears for everyone apparently, but you know,
[18:54] Speaker 2: you heard these stories about people going through this tunnel.
[18:57] Speaker 2: At the end there is light there. A light is
[18:59] Speaker 2: like overwhelming love whatever. It feels really nice and people
[19:05] Speaker 2: are drawn to it. And this is supposedly, you know,
[19:10] Speaker 2: a fake kind of construct that is designed to because
[19:17] Speaker 2: like the soul leaving the body is very often still
[19:20] Speaker 2: not higher percent aware. You know, it's like the memories
[19:24] Speaker 2: might take a while before they're going to start coming
[19:27] Speaker 2: back and things like that. So it's a good moment
[19:29] Speaker 2: to capture the soul, let's say, try to take advantage
[19:34] Speaker 2: of the state. So that's one of the things that
[19:39] Speaker 2: you know, it seems to be just the kind of
[19:42] Speaker 2: like a trap a little bit. Another thing about reincarnation here,
[19:47] Speaker 2: you know, I've seen sessions where we examine a different
[19:52] Speaker 2: planet and there was the same story. So we just
[19:57] Speaker 2: had a guy who had in her nations in these
[20:02] Speaker 2: kind of rat like races. You know, it's like some
[20:06] Speaker 2: kind of rat humanoid rats. And it's pretty funny because
[20:11] Speaker 2: like in this incarnation he's obsessed with rats, and even
[20:15] Speaker 2: like some video game where they have like these rat
[20:18] Speaker 2: lords and things like that. You know, it's like Warhammer.
[20:22] Speaker 2: I think they have like a very negative Luciferian type
[20:27] Speaker 2: god of rats and things like that. Right.
[20:29] Speaker 3: Wow, So.
[20:31] Speaker 2: When we checked, we had a session with this guy,
[20:35] Speaker 2: we found out that yes, they were these apps of
[20:38] Speaker 2: rat races there are somewhere, and they got apparently hijacked
[20:43] Speaker 2: as well in a very similar way, you know, by
[20:46] Speaker 2: the same type of things that interfere here. And they
[20:50] Speaker 2: also had like started fighting with each other, had religions
[20:54] Speaker 2: later on and started creating these aggregor gods, you know,
[20:58] Speaker 2: because some of these go that are part of religion
[21:02] Speaker 2: are more like agregors, right, so they are construct of people,
[21:08] Speaker 2: you know, giving their attention to something that they've been
[21:12] Speaker 2: programmed with, you know, they kind of pray to whatever,
[21:16] Speaker 2: Like for example, what's the Hindu Ganesha?
[21:20] Speaker 3: I think it's so so when we try to get
[21:26] Speaker 3: information about that, it appeared to be an aggregor and
[21:29] Speaker 3: it was the same with this rat kind of god
[21:32] Speaker 3: of theirs.
[21:34] Speaker 2: So it was a little bit like this. You know, people,
[21:37] Speaker 2: let's say in that other realm or the other planet,
[21:41] Speaker 2: you have similar scenario with different races, but the beings
[21:46] Speaker 2: behind it were the same. So Bow baal, you know,
[21:50] Speaker 2: be a bal lucifer, you know, but overall, very often
[21:56] Speaker 2: it's like it's one big corporation. So it's like, you know,
[22:01] Speaker 2: astro beings work with you know, reptilians who can incarnate,
[22:07] Speaker 2: or with insectoid types or with Grace. Grace very often
[22:14] Speaker 2: work as more kind of helpers, you know, like this
[22:17] Speaker 2: kind of robotic a little bit like like bio robots,
[22:22] Speaker 2: let's say, things like that. So you know, it's kind
[22:26] Speaker 2: of like different factions, but they often have the same goals.
[22:31] Speaker 1: Have you seen Disclosure Day yet?
[22:34] Speaker 2: No?
[22:35] Speaker 1: No, I unfortunately saw It's awful. I unfortunately sat through
[22:41] Speaker 1: and wasted almost two hours of my life yesterday to
[22:45] Speaker 1: watch it. It is pure alien propaganda to get us
[22:50] Speaker 1: to become fond of the gray aliens, show how much
[22:54] Speaker 1: they love us and all the wonderful things that they're
[22:57] Speaker 1: doing for humanity, and you're giving us these abilities and
[23:02] Speaker 1: disclosure is going to be a gift. It was such
[23:05] Speaker 1: awful propaganda. Of course they'd want to propagandize aliens in
[23:10] Speaker 1: a positive way. If this is the way we're going
[23:13] Speaker 1: to continue to feed the collective conscious about what aliens are?
[23:19] Speaker 2: You know, I have not watched the movie. I heard
[23:23] Speaker 2: from friends who are also into the same fields that
[23:26] Speaker 2: is really bad. Yeah, and I shouldn't that waste my time.
[23:30] Speaker 2: But from what you're saying is that, you know, it
[23:34] Speaker 2: sounds a bit like this the Art of revealing or whatever,
[23:38] Speaker 2: you know, where they try to show you that many
[23:42] Speaker 2: people talk about that there's going to be some disclosure happening,
[23:45] Speaker 2: maybe even next year or something. So maybe they want
[23:49] Speaker 2: to give you the times that they gonna push first
[23:54] Speaker 2: to disclose or something, you know, and then people being
[23:59] Speaker 2: positive opened about them, to accept them somehow. And this
[24:04] Speaker 2: is often the free will element because like you know,
[24:09] Speaker 2: if the people agree they want that, or they think
[24:12] Speaker 2: they're good guys or something about that, you know, then
[24:16] Speaker 2: it's easier to have access to people in worth many
[24:22] Speaker 2: different ways, you know, maybe it's through some kind of
[24:24] Speaker 2: hacking or even like at the sole level, there can
[24:30] Speaker 2: be captured or you know, used in one way or another.
[24:35] Speaker 2: So I feel like whenever I hear something like that,
[24:38] Speaker 2: it sounds a little bit like they just trying to
[24:41] Speaker 2: prepare people so they accept it. It's like they give
[24:46] Speaker 2: their permission in a way, because the free will is
[24:50] Speaker 2: always the big element of everything here. You know, if
[24:55] Speaker 2: free will in a way protects us from access to
[24:59] Speaker 2: us right, because it's like we all are given free will.
[25:03] Speaker 2: We can say that free will is a little bit
[25:05] Speaker 2: like the law of the universe, like karma or something
[25:08] Speaker 2: like that. You know, so nothing can happen to you
[25:13] Speaker 2: if you're not allowing it somehow, and you know, you
[25:16] Speaker 2: have to give your permission one way or another, and
[25:19] Speaker 2: sometimes the permission is hijacked litbits. So it's maybe dreams
[25:24] Speaker 2: can be hagged, you know, like they can appear in
[25:27] Speaker 2: dreams in different forms. Sometimes it's through rituals. So like
[25:31] Speaker 2: people do some rituals. They think the ritual is harmless,
[25:35] Speaker 2: but it's actually connected with the contract or comic contract
[25:40] Speaker 2: with somethings. So they try all sorts of trickery to
[25:44] Speaker 2: get people to agree, because once there is agreement, they
[25:48] Speaker 2: can get more access and they can do whatever they want.
[25:52] Speaker 1: You know, do you think what we would consider to
[25:55] Speaker 1: be theological demons are essentially interchangeable with these extraterrestrial beings.
[26:02] Speaker 1: It's the same thing just being presented a different way.
[26:07] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe it's like very often reptilian
[26:11] Speaker 2: types are appearing a little bit demonic so they have scales,
[26:15] Speaker 2: they have like you know, kind of eyes, like yellow
[26:19] Speaker 2: eyes whatever, with some that looks like like fire or something.
[26:25] Speaker 2: You know. So maybe that's more or less what people
[26:28] Speaker 2: associated demons with, because like probably from like some of
[26:35] Speaker 2: the people that I know, Like I don't know, I
[26:40] Speaker 2: think you'd interviewed color Gheero, grif Ussy want. Yeah. So
[26:45] Speaker 2: Calorgea is also like a guy who created the techniques
[26:49] Speaker 2: that we rely on for hypnosis and regressive hypnosis, like
[26:53] Speaker 2: we do our own stuff, which is different, but it's
[26:56] Speaker 2: also based on some of his techniques. And he has
[27:00] Speaker 2: like you know, he trained hundreds of people doing these
[27:04] Speaker 2: regressive hypnosis sessions, and he has teams in different languages
[27:09] Speaker 2: and from different countries, and they all we all kind
[27:13] Speaker 2: of notice the same patterns when we do the sessions, right,
[27:16] Speaker 2: So we notice that reptilians like draco, which are more
[27:22] Speaker 2: kind of they are more higher level, let's say, and
[27:26] Speaker 2: then rephaptoids, which are more soldier types. You know, they
[27:31] Speaker 2: don't have wings. They are often like the most common
[27:36] Speaker 2: type that gets involved in humanity, and especially when you know,
[27:42] Speaker 2: sol level hijacking or some kind of implants or whatever,
[27:47] Speaker 2: insectoids seems to be pretty popular as well, like monthies types,
[27:53] Speaker 2: and then you know like Grace normally working with them
[27:56] Speaker 2: as helpers, and and very often some us straw types,
[28:01] Speaker 2: you know, like hooded beings like these. I'm not sure
[28:05] Speaker 2: if you've heard about like the types that I think
[28:08] Speaker 2: they're probably are conic or something so hooded like you
[28:13] Speaker 2: normally don't see their faces.
[28:15] Speaker 1: They like shadow type beings.
[28:19] Speaker 2: Shadow as well, but they normally appear like in a
[28:22] Speaker 2: rope hoooded and you don't see the face. Have you
[28:28] Speaker 2: heard about these like I have.
[28:30] Speaker 1: I've heard them described before.
[28:32] Speaker 2: So they are very often linked to religion, so religious
[28:38] Speaker 2: rituals like Christianity, Cathalyicism, they very often appear in many
[28:43] Speaker 2: of these rituals. They do, and they are normally like
[28:49] Speaker 2: what we at least learned, they're a gregoria type, so
[28:53] Speaker 2: they're not they don't have souls, they're astraw and they
[29:00] Speaker 2: probably most likely work with this negative AI that is
[29:05] Speaker 2: part of creation of uh what's dem erg demierch you know,
[29:11] Speaker 2: because this is one of the beings that shows up,
[29:15] Speaker 2: you know, from like the top ones.
[29:18] Speaker 1: You mentioned, a negative AI. Can you expand on that
[29:22] Speaker 1: a bit? Is this something that also has infiltrated and
[29:28] Speaker 1: now programs are realm in certain ways.
[29:31] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hearing a lot about negative AI from
[29:35] Speaker 2: a lot of people who did these sessions, Like I
[29:38] Speaker 2: don't think I've seen anything myself yet or like proper evidence,
[29:44] Speaker 2: but this is, you know, constantly the topic of people
[29:49] Speaker 2: who do like this kind of energy cleaning, removing implants
[29:54] Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And you know, it looks like
[29:59] Speaker 2: it very a friend pretense to be a source, so
[30:03] Speaker 2: like it can try to hijack the energy. Like if
[30:06] Speaker 2: people pray to source in a negative way from like
[30:11] Speaker 2: you know, maybe from fear or lacking or some kind
[30:15] Speaker 2: of state where it's not pure, it's a lot more
[30:19] Speaker 2: likely than then the fake source can try to hijack
[30:22] Speaker 2: their prayer or get into a dreamance or something. There
[30:26] Speaker 2: are you know, different theories about it. Some say like
[30:30] Speaker 2: it's just you know, hijacks some higher also like like
[30:37] Speaker 2: reptellions through some nanabods and try to take take them
[30:42] Speaker 2: over for this way, like you know, this type of stuff.
[30:48] Speaker 2: Like from what I understand is is like demerg apparently
[30:53] Speaker 2: is the creator. Maybe it's also Luciferian. I'm not sure,
[30:58] Speaker 2: but they seem to be working together with Ball as well.
[31:04] Speaker 2: You know, Ball is also one of the top guys there.
[31:09] Speaker 1: You mentioned implants. How do implants come into these situations?
[31:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, so everything really Like if you think about your
[31:21] Speaker 2: as a human, you know, as a soul in the
[31:24] Speaker 2: human body, for example, we are polarized in a positive way.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Let's say, so you have your or eg field where
[31:33] Speaker 2: you have the heart chack rabbing kind of the main engine,
[31:37] Speaker 2: and this is it's like your immunity immune system, right,
[31:42] Speaker 2: so you are protected from these beings, let's say, from
[31:46] Speaker 2: any kind of access to you. If you have strong field,
[31:50] Speaker 2: like strong or egg field, the flow in the check
[31:53] Speaker 2: craw system is good, then you're constantly protected because they
[31:58] Speaker 2: are the opposite in a way. So you know, like
[32:02] Speaker 2: we like positive emotions. They like negative emotions. They like lush,
[32:06] Speaker 2: you know, they like fear, they like anger, They like
[32:09] Speaker 2: someone who is in ego driven or something like that,
[32:14] Speaker 2: you know, selfish, whatever, all these negative vibrations or emotions.
[32:18] Speaker 2: This is kind of their energy type. They like the
[32:22] Speaker 2: feel of that, and we are the opposite. We thrive
[32:26] Speaker 2: more in like happiness, love, whatever. So in a way
[32:29] Speaker 2: we are we can say we're polarized opposite in a
[32:33] Speaker 2: different way. That's why we repel each other. You know,
[32:38] Speaker 2: your aura is going to kind of repel the being.
[32:42] Speaker 2: They don't like the heart center energy because it's really
[32:45] Speaker 2: like garlic for a vampire or something like that. So
[32:49] Speaker 2: in order to access the person or try to suck
[32:54] Speaker 2: the energy or something, they try to use all sorts
[32:56] Speaker 2: of tricks and techniques. And you know, they try to
[33:02] Speaker 2: like either block the flow of prana in the body
[33:07] Speaker 2: or you know, we can the energy system. So let's
[33:12] Speaker 2: say if you drink alcohol, you know, that's already enough
[33:15] Speaker 2: to weaken your org field and then the beings can
[33:20] Speaker 2: have easier access to the person. So they try to
[33:23] Speaker 2: send thought to the person, maybe temporarily inhabit the body
[33:28] Speaker 2: or something for a moment. That's one way, but another
[33:34] Speaker 2: is through technologies, and there are many different types, and
[33:40] Speaker 2: you know, so they try many different ways. You know,
[33:42] Speaker 2: we when we do the sessions, like most people who
[33:45] Speaker 2: never had these types of sessions, they're probably from the
[33:49] Speaker 2: bottom to the top, like half something on chakras or whatever.
[33:55] Speaker 2: So for example, you know, some rituals in the church
[34:01] Speaker 2: you have you can be baptized, whatever, what are the
[34:04] Speaker 2: other ones? I don't even know the English words for them,
[34:07] Speaker 2: but you know communion or communion confirmation. Yeah, so very
[34:13] Speaker 2: often you know some of them, like when you see
[34:15] Speaker 2: the priests doing the cross on the forehead, this is
[34:19] Speaker 2: a seal that they try to attach to the furd
[34:23] Speaker 2: eye to block the fur d eye, to block your
[34:27] Speaker 2: ability to connect with your higher self or source, or
[34:32] Speaker 2: kind of dilute a little bit or like you know,
[34:35] Speaker 2: block it a little bit so you're still connected but less.
[34:39] Speaker 2: So that's one example. And this is done for ritual, right,
[34:44] Speaker 2: so the person doesn't understand what's going on. They think
[34:46] Speaker 2: it's a positive ritual whatever, but actually they just give
[34:51] Speaker 2: permission to have it implanted. And some of these rituals
[34:56] Speaker 2: like we not just let's say, I don't know, Like
[35:00] Speaker 2: what's the one when you're a child, like you're being baptized, right,
[35:03] Speaker 2: like yeah, when you are like very very young. So
[35:08] Speaker 2: you know, in this sense, because the free will is
[35:11] Speaker 2: still like the parent kind of has free will on
[35:15] Speaker 2: top of the kid in a way because the kid
[35:16] Speaker 2: is not really developed. You know, we notice that there
[35:23] Speaker 2: is some sort of agreement they try to give access
[35:28] Speaker 2: to the soul of the child already at the very beginning.
[35:33] Speaker 2: But if the soul is advanced, let's say it kind
[35:37] Speaker 2: of all soul knows these tricks, understands it. It's might
[35:42] Speaker 2: not permit it, not allow it even in the small
[35:45] Speaker 2: child like this. If the priest has good intentions and
[35:50] Speaker 2: he he's not like high praise as someone who is
[35:53] Speaker 2: really like thinking that he's doing something good, it maybe
[35:56] Speaker 2: the ritual's not going to work out. But you know,
[36:00] Speaker 2: this is a very first attempt. You just come here
[36:03] Speaker 2: and boom. They try to hijack you straight away from
[36:06] Speaker 2: the very beginning. But when we're talking also about implants,
[36:10] Speaker 2: I can give you an example of my own implants
[36:13] Speaker 2: that I had, because this is how I discovered these techniques.
[36:17] Speaker 2: So I used to experiment a lot with rituals and practices,
[36:23] Speaker 2: you know, to manifest something and things like that, you know,
[36:26] Speaker 2: speuse other things like that. And I had my Condolini
[36:32] Speaker 2: awakening probably around two thousand and eight or nine. So
[36:36] Speaker 2: I had this, you know, kind of when I became sensitive.
[36:40] Speaker 2: I opened my energy flow and I started feeling my
[36:45] Speaker 2: oric field, started feeling my checkers a little bit, my
[36:48] Speaker 2: spirit guys, things like that. From that period, so when
[36:54] Speaker 2: I had some kind of implants, I knew about it
[36:58] Speaker 2: because I feel my aura and I several times I
[37:03] Speaker 2: noticed that when I had these experiments with manifestation and
[37:07] Speaker 2: things like that, I would get this strange heavy energy
[37:11] Speaker 2: on my back like this on the right side, for example,
[37:15] Speaker 2: really heavy. And initially I had no idea like what
[37:20] Speaker 2: was that, you know, but it happened many times in
[37:24] Speaker 2: a couple of years. So like one time, let me
[37:28] Speaker 2: give you a quick example. I don't know how much
[37:30] Speaker 2: time we have because you're good talk about these things.
[37:33] Speaker 2: But twenty nineteen, you know, I was doing a prayer
[37:38] Speaker 2: to Jesus, which is a big topic whatever. I don't
[37:43] Speaker 2: want to get into that, but I prayed for help
[37:47] Speaker 2: on that time with business and some stuff like that.
[37:49] Speaker 1: You know.
[37:50] Speaker 2: Normally I would not pray for business or whatever, but
[37:52] Speaker 2: I played for something materialistic. And I remember I had
[37:57] Speaker 2: a vision when I was meditating and having this kind
[38:00] Speaker 2: of thing. I had a vision of a contract, you know,
[38:05] Speaker 2: so like a piece of paper with my signature on
[38:09] Speaker 2: the bottom, chick. And I felt like, you know, why
[38:13] Speaker 2: would Jesus give me a contract? You know, that's pretty strange.
[38:17] Speaker 2: And over the next couple of days, I started having
[38:22] Speaker 2: like some kind of you know, things moving in business.
[38:26] Speaker 2: I just got into this partnership with a big page
[38:31] Speaker 2: on Facebook that I wanted to get this partnership for
[38:34] Speaker 2: many years and stuff like that. So things are going
[38:37] Speaker 2: in moving really after this prayer to Jesus, supposedly, and
[38:44] Speaker 2: at the same time, because I whenever there's something wrong,
[38:47] Speaker 2: I get dreams, you know, I get like information in
[38:50] Speaker 2: the dreams, and I was being shown things like like
[38:54] Speaker 2: I'm being prepared for a barbecue on a secure or
[38:58] Speaker 2: something by demails whatever, like symbolic things like that. Yeah,
[39:03] Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's also like what happened, Like
[39:08] Speaker 2: I'm not sure now, like maybe it was a different
[39:10] Speaker 2: level of manipulation still, but at that time what happened
[39:14] Speaker 2: was like I started thinking like I probably got myself
[39:18] Speaker 2: into some kind of negative agreement or something, you know.
[39:21] Speaker 2: And I had this dream where you know, this massive
[39:27] Speaker 2: angel flew like with like many meter long wings, you know,
[39:33] Speaker 2: and white and grabbed my hand and kind of we
[39:36] Speaker 2: flew away and there were these like negative beings everywhere
[39:40] Speaker 2: trying to give my attentions and like grab me. And
[39:44] Speaker 2: and the next day after this dream, I discovered this
[39:49] Speaker 2: meditation on YouTube, which is about removing karmic contracts because
[39:53] Speaker 2: I thought like, maybe you know, this was I was
[39:56] Speaker 2: learning already about that. I probably got myself into something
[39:59] Speaker 2: like that.
[40:00] Speaker 3: M hm.
[40:01] Speaker 2: So in the in the meditation, it was basically like
[40:06] Speaker 2: as far as I remember, I think it was Archangel
[40:08] Speaker 2: Michael meditation. Even though like I would not say now that,
[40:14] Speaker 2: I'm very kind of not I don't trust beings like
[40:18] Speaker 2: that anymore. Like at that time I was open mm hm.
[40:22] Speaker 2: So you know, I did the meditation, it felt better,
[40:26] Speaker 2: like I felt really good to release this finger on
[40:29] Speaker 2: my back. And the next the same day when I
[40:34] Speaker 2: after that, I was doing some meditation again and I
[40:39] Speaker 2: had a vision of a massive scar on my right
[40:44] Speaker 2: side where this heavy thing was like on my back
[40:47] Speaker 2: so it's through half of my back as car you know,
[40:52] Speaker 2: And and the heavy energy was gone. And then again,
[40:56] Speaker 2: you know, I've done it probably four times in a
[40:59] Speaker 2: couple of years. So I've done some spells, I've done
[41:02] Speaker 2: some kind of rituals where I wanted to manifest something.
[41:06] Speaker 2: I feel this heavy thing. A normal we person would
[41:09] Speaker 2: not feel that. Because I have condolinia awakening, I feel
[41:13] Speaker 2: my auras, I can feel this. Someone else would never
[41:16] Speaker 2: had anything like that. Would probably not notice, you know,
[41:20] Speaker 2: because because of that. So I had it several times
[41:25] Speaker 2: through and I started noticing patterns. You know, It's been
[41:27] Speaker 2: always like I manifest something, it's normally ends up really
[41:31] Speaker 2: badly for me. Then I have this heavy thing and
[41:33] Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So funny, you know, I was getting
[41:38] Speaker 2: in a lot of issues because of these things, you know,
[41:44] Speaker 2: like getting in trouble to accidents, like through giving myself
[41:50] Speaker 2: into these contracts and things like that, and I was
[41:53] Speaker 2: looking for way to remove it. And at that time,
[41:57] Speaker 2: I was still like looking outside, so you know, praying
[42:01] Speaker 2: to arcane angels someone you know, to remove it from
[42:05] Speaker 2: me or whatever, which I think now is very risky
[42:08] Speaker 2: and it's it's dangerous and it's very likely it's manipulation.
[42:12] Speaker 2: And I finally, like last time I had it already
[42:14] Speaker 2: for like two years, I knew I had it. I
[42:16] Speaker 2: knew exactly how I had it from when because I
[42:19] Speaker 2: did a spell something and I realized, okay, this is manipulation,
[42:25] Speaker 2: this is something like this kind of thing. So I suddenly,
[42:30] Speaker 2: like I ended up having a session which I'm doing now,
[42:34] Speaker 2: a similar session where someone actually removed it. And what
[42:40] Speaker 2: was really interesting, like I was told that this was
[42:43] Speaker 2: just sucking my energy, so you know, I would have
[42:47] Speaker 2: less energy because of that, and then because I felt it,
[42:53] Speaker 2: you know, like I said, So for example, if I
[42:56] Speaker 2: would do a breath work like when of reading or something,
[43:02] Speaker 2: I feel the prana in my system, I feel a
[43:05] Speaker 2: little bit chucks start tingling, and this thing starts tingling
[43:09] Speaker 2: as well, because like a hole, it's attached to the aura,
[43:13] Speaker 2: so it creates a hole in the aura, and you know,
[43:17] Speaker 2: and it sucks the energy or something. So you know,
[43:20] Speaker 2: I feel my aura and I feel there's a hole
[43:24] Speaker 2: in the prana on my back. And when it got removed,
[43:31] Speaker 2: for about two first of all, like I felt weak
[43:34] Speaker 2: for about a week because it's like you had an operation, right,
[43:37] Speaker 2: So it's like you can think about physical same way
[43:40] Speaker 2: as energetic. It's kind of has to heal, the aura
[43:44] Speaker 2: has to heal and things like that. Yeah, And then
[43:48] Speaker 2: after it got removed, I had these electric shocks for
[43:51] Speaker 2: two months on my back constantly, like some weird energies,
[43:56] Speaker 2: which I was like, why is that, Like I didn't
[43:58] Speaker 2: feel that heavy on the right side anymore. I just
[44:00] Speaker 2: felt like these weird electric stocks. And then after it healed,
[44:05] Speaker 2: because it was healing. Basically, that's why I probably felt
[44:08] Speaker 2: it this way. My energy jomped, you know. So my
[44:12] Speaker 2: energy just jomped a lot, and I was like super excited.
[44:16] Speaker 2: You know. I tried to get rid of of it
[44:18] Speaker 2: for two years. I could and I found the solution.
[44:22] Speaker 2: Now I'm excited, and my ego just started going through
[44:25] Speaker 2: the roof and I get another attack. Oh and it's
[44:31] Speaker 2: just like I've been dealing with it quite a bit,
[44:34] Speaker 2: some of these beings. You know, once I started doing
[44:38] Speaker 2: the stuff that they tried to make your life hard
[44:40] Speaker 2: as well, so you know, it just became thing. But
[44:45] Speaker 2: once I understand a little bit how it works, I
[44:48] Speaker 2: think it's way easier now to not get myself in
[44:53] Speaker 2: any of these things.
[44:54] Speaker 1: So do you think it may be dangerous to pray
[44:57] Speaker 1: to some of these beings even from Abrahamic religions, that
[45:02] Speaker 1: even these aggrigors in these archetypes have been hijacked by
[45:08] Speaker 1: the negative etheric beings? Is that what you're saying?
[45:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, the good thing about the
[45:17] Speaker 2: technique we're doing is like we only work with the
[45:20] Speaker 2: soul of the client, So the client is like if
[45:24] Speaker 2: the client gives permission, he can take the permission. And
[45:29] Speaker 2: then the source, right, the source is like we are
[45:32] Speaker 2: the source. Everything is source, and this is the higher
[45:35] Speaker 2: aspect of ourselves. So I realized, after you know, experimenting
[45:41] Speaker 2: with esoteric stuff for a little bit over twenty years,
[45:45] Speaker 2: that there's no point to like give your attention or
[45:50] Speaker 2: permission to anything outside of yourself or the Source or
[45:55] Speaker 2: your own higher selves. And these are for me now
[45:59] Speaker 2: the only kind of let's say, beings I would pray to,
[46:03] Speaker 2: which are our kind of aspects of myself, you know,
[46:06] Speaker 2: my soul, my higher self and source and everything else
[46:11] Speaker 2: could be manipulated, could be hijacked. Very often. These beings
[46:16] Speaker 2: are not who people think there are, you know, could
[46:21] Speaker 2: be like just created for humans, so they pray to them,
[46:24] Speaker 2: and then through that they're being used or getting contracts
[46:31] Speaker 2: or something or create something. You know, you never know.
[46:34] Speaker 2: There might be some positive beings. But even when we
[46:38] Speaker 2: look into like some sort of things like Krishna or
[46:42] Speaker 2: something like we did a session on that. When when
[46:46] Speaker 2: it gets you like examining beings like that, it's not
[46:49] Speaker 2: easy to get accurate the information because they can you know,
[46:53] Speaker 2: they can manipulate it. Maybe if they there can be
[46:56] Speaker 2: always like something that's gonna distort the information, because it's
[47:03] Speaker 2: different when you work with the client who gives you permission, right,
[47:06] Speaker 2: and it's different when you work with something that you
[47:09] Speaker 2: don't know if this is a record, this is real,
[47:11] Speaker 2: maybe it's negative and people think it's positive, so it
[47:14] Speaker 2: can be decept forever. You know, you don't get full
[47:17] Speaker 2: full access to the information sometimes, but even with things
[47:22] Speaker 2: like when we are looking at this like Krishna or
[47:24] Speaker 2: some of these hinder gods, it would be like something
[47:28] Speaker 2: for something you know they're gonna help you, but they
[47:31] Speaker 2: want something to return, not maybe like they're not going
[47:35] Speaker 2: to be negative in a way, like like these other
[47:37] Speaker 2: ones that just try to like you know, take advantage
[47:41] Speaker 2: of a person as much as possible, but in always
[47:45] Speaker 2: like a little bit of exchange of energy and something
[47:49] Speaker 2: like that. So what's the point of doing that if
[47:52] Speaker 2: you have access to like source, you know your source,
[47:56] Speaker 2: you have your high self and you can get anything
[47:59] Speaker 2: you need and it's going to come right.
[48:02] Speaker 1: I've always had that thought we are outsourcing a lot
[48:07] Speaker 1: of our abilities and what makes us human to these
[48:12] Speaker 1: other beings. And I always thought that there was something
[48:17] Speaker 1: fundamentally wrong with a lot of our world religions. Most
[48:22] Speaker 1: people gravitate towards that because they're either terrified of an
[48:27] Speaker 1: eternity in hell, or they want a reward for being
[48:31] Speaker 1: a good little boy or girl and go to heaven
[48:35] Speaker 1: and experience all the good things because you were a
[48:37] Speaker 1: good little human instead of just being a good human,
[48:41] Speaker 1: because that's the way everyone should be. We have been
[48:46] Speaker 1: programmed to believe we have to attach ourselves to these
[48:51] Speaker 1: certain faiths in order to be accepted by those deities
[48:56] Speaker 1: and be brought in so that we can not go
[48:59] Speaker 1: to hell for a time. I always thought that was
[49:02] Speaker 1: a very sad way to live this experience.
[49:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look at a lot of these
[49:10] Speaker 2: religions like Islam or Christianity, like you see a lot
[49:15] Speaker 2: of negative stuff, you know, like treating women as a
[49:19] Speaker 2: secondary kind of citizen, or putting restrictions like things like that,
[49:25] Speaker 2: or with Christianity and Catholic faith, so much abuse of
[49:31] Speaker 2: children over the years by previous or valotica or whatever,
[49:35] Speaker 2: like nasty things all over, you know. So how can
[49:40] Speaker 2: any of that represent anything positive if you step outside
[49:44] Speaker 2: from it. It's difficult. If you were born in a
[49:46] Speaker 2: country where you know, from the very early age, people
[49:49] Speaker 2: are programmed with this stuff and it's just they're accepting
[49:53] Speaker 2: it because of the way that the brain works. You know,
[49:57] Speaker 2: it's like you know how like first maybe seven years
[50:01] Speaker 2: of your life you're developing, so it's very easy to
[50:04] Speaker 2: program your beliefs. And once you have these beliefs, like,
[50:09] Speaker 2: people are not aware that they've been programmed, especially if
[50:14] Speaker 2: you look at religions. You know, people are born into
[50:16] Speaker 2: a religious household and then they protect this religion if
[50:20] Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense that it's kind of like doesn't
[50:24] Speaker 2: seem positive in a way. So it's a I think
[50:29] Speaker 2: clever system to just get people into it. Like you know,
[50:36] Speaker 2: I noticed something like let me give you an example,
[50:42] Speaker 2: like a guy I knew who was extremely religious, like Catholic,
[50:48] Speaker 2: you know, praying all the time whatever. So for example,
[50:54] Speaker 2: you know, he grew up being very aggressive because his
[50:58] Speaker 2: father was beating him up, and then you know, he
[51:03] Speaker 2: became very aggressive this and uh you know, easy temper,
[51:09] Speaker 2: like easy to like hisslf and things like that, and
[51:13] Speaker 2: that caused him a lot of trouble with at work.
[51:15] Speaker 2: You know, wife left him whatever, and he's looking for
[51:20] Speaker 2: salvation religions, so he praised to the saints. He prays
[51:23] Speaker 2: to virtuin matter and all the time. And you know,
[51:30] Speaker 2: one part of this, this story of this guy, is
[51:33] Speaker 2: that he was praying to God as well to find
[51:35] Speaker 2: solution to his problems, right, because this temper and aggressiveness
[51:41] Speaker 2: caused so much trouble in his life. And this is
[51:44] Speaker 2: like a long time ago, maybe more than ten years.
[51:46] Speaker 2: But he moved into a house. I was renting a
[51:49] Speaker 2: room and he moved in. So I felt like I
[51:52] Speaker 2: got to teach him meditation, you know, I'm gonna calm
[51:56] Speaker 2: help to calm him. And I knew another guy who
[51:59] Speaker 2: had similar problems. He started meditating became calmer. But the
[52:03] Speaker 2: guy is so programmed with religion and Christianity that he
[52:08] Speaker 2: doesn't want to hear about religion, I mean meditation, tower
[52:12] Speaker 2: cards or anything like that because for him it's negative,
[52:16] Speaker 2: occult whatever. Right. So it's funny because like he's praying
[52:20] Speaker 2: to God for solution too, and he found solution. He
[52:23] Speaker 2: moves into the house where I rent the room for him,
[52:27] Speaker 2: where I can teach him meditation and help him to
[52:30] Speaker 2: become calmer. So one thing, how religion blocked him, right
[52:34] Speaker 2: because like you know, he doesn't see that. He just
[52:39] Speaker 2: manifested what he wanted in a way. But also what
[52:43] Speaker 2: I think I never looked into him specifically, but after
[52:47] Speaker 2: similar examples, I suspect that he might have had hijacked
[52:52] Speaker 2: or reincarnation. Is that the way it works is, you know,
[52:57] Speaker 2: so he is aggressive, blah blah blah, other story why
[53:01] Speaker 2: he's aggressive, and then he prays to saints and Mary's
[53:06] Speaker 2: or whatever for salvation, for help, whatever. So what happens
[53:10] Speaker 2: like behind these things, there are these negative things. They
[53:14] Speaker 2: get him in the contract, they have his permission whatever,
[53:20] Speaker 2: and then you know, he ends up his life. It's
[53:25] Speaker 2: the same story again, like, oh, you've been a negative
[53:28] Speaker 2: guy here and there, you've been beating people up, you've
[53:31] Speaker 2: been aggressive. Come back, you're gonna have tough life. Whatever.
[53:37] Speaker 2: Again the same thing, and he prays again, you know,
[53:40] Speaker 2: and it's the same story. So he's like putting himself
[53:44] Speaker 2: into the same trap because you know, he doesn't understand
[53:50] Speaker 2: that everything he's doing is actually causing the same cycle
[53:55] Speaker 2: to repeat over and over. And I think this is
[53:57] Speaker 2: happening with a lot of people, you know, with religious especially.
[54:02] Speaker 1: That being said, let's get into how we can first
[54:07] Speaker 1: become aware that we're being afflicted at this and talk
[54:10] Speaker 1: about your energy clearing and some of the ways people
[54:13] Speaker 1: can get rid of it.
[54:16] Speaker 2: I mean, I think one thing I can say is
[54:21] Speaker 2: like to watch out also for dreams, you know, because
[54:26] Speaker 2: like one technique that some of the beings like to
[54:29] Speaker 2: use is to hijack dreams. And in the dream, you know,
[54:33] Speaker 2: they can produce whatever you like, can be your mom,
[54:37] Speaker 2: can be someone you trust, you know, can be some
[54:40] Speaker 2: positively looking thing. Like I said, you know, you normally
[54:45] Speaker 2: are protect it, so it's hard for you for anyone
[54:48] Speaker 2: to hijack your dream. But if there are low vibrations
[54:52] Speaker 2: like your stress, you're angry, whatever, it's easier, or you're weak,
[54:57] Speaker 2: ill or something like that. You know your aura, it's
[55:01] Speaker 2: going to be weaker and it's going to be easier
[55:02] Speaker 2: for them to hijack the drink. So the way normally
[55:08] Speaker 2: what to watch out for is like if you had
[55:11] Speaker 2: a dream where you agreed to anything, you know, like,
[55:16] Speaker 2: let me give you an example of hijacked dream. My
[55:19] Speaker 2: cousin he had a situation where in the dream there
[55:23] Speaker 2: was some someone giving him some food and said, if
[55:27] Speaker 2: you're going to eat this food, you're going to gain
[55:31] Speaker 2: special spiritual power or something. He ate food in the dream.
[55:36] Speaker 2: It was bitter, bitter, and then he woke up and
[55:40] Speaker 2: his eyes were darker and looks like he had an
[55:42] Speaker 2: antit attachment. So he So if you ever get anything
[55:48] Speaker 2: like that, you you know, you feel like maybe the
[55:51] Speaker 2: dream was hijacked, or you accepted something, or you agreed
[55:55] Speaker 2: to something, no matter how benevolent it looks, because normally
[55:59] Speaker 2: it's and like something nice and positive. But if you
[56:03] Speaker 2: agree to anything or you accepted anything in the dream,
[56:07] Speaker 2: it's likely that it is hijacked the dream. And what
[56:13] Speaker 2: you can do in the morning, you know, after you
[56:16] Speaker 2: wake up, if you remember I think still just you
[56:20] Speaker 2: can focus on the dream, and you can just from
[56:23] Speaker 2: the heart level. You know, it's often important to like
[56:26] Speaker 2: get your attention into the heart center for a moment,
[56:31] Speaker 2: just calm down, you know, focus on like the heart
[56:34] Speaker 2: the light, and then stay in your mind, like I
[56:38] Speaker 2: cancel all agreements from this night, from any of my dreams.
[56:43] Speaker 2: At night, you know, you can ask the source. So
[56:48] Speaker 2: like you know, Source is everything, is God, but it's
[56:52] Speaker 2: the real you know, the creator of everything. So you know,
[56:58] Speaker 2: Source the creation of every thing. I want to cancel
[57:02] Speaker 2: all contracts from or any agreements from this dream or
[57:08] Speaker 2: from dreams tonight, Like not always it's gonna work because
[57:12] Speaker 2: it depends, like sometimes it often depends how serious you are.
[57:17] Speaker 2: You know. The three all kind of works in this
[57:19] Speaker 2: way that you have to be certain, you have to
[57:23] Speaker 2: have this strong conviction that this is what you want
[57:25] Speaker 2: to do, that you believe this is gonna work, and
[57:28] Speaker 2: things like that. But you know, that's like one level
[57:33] Speaker 2: tape I would give to someone if they ever get
[57:37] Speaker 2: into anything like that. The thing about if you try
[57:41] Speaker 2: to do like contract removal yourself, you don't really know
[57:47] Speaker 2: if you have contracts. And that's the thing where what
[57:50] Speaker 2: we do, like we try to examine if the person
[57:54] Speaker 2: has contracts through the psychic and what types of contracts
[58:00] Speaker 2: when they started, and what types of you know, blockages, attachments,
[58:07] Speaker 2: courts or any influence they might have. And to be honest,
[58:12] Speaker 2: like almost everyone has something like you can think about
[58:16] Speaker 2: it like this, If you never had this type of
[58:19] Speaker 2: session done, it's likely you're going to have at least
[58:23] Speaker 2: a few. If you have done something like that, you
[58:29] Speaker 2: can catch it still. But they're like like flu you know,
[58:32] Speaker 2: like nat really affecting you much. It's not going to
[58:34] Speaker 2: be a big thing. But for example, in my case,
[58:39] Speaker 2: because of what I'm doing, I get in trouble a lot.
[58:43] Speaker 2: Or they try, they try in many different ways. So like,
[58:49] Speaker 2: lets me give you an example. Like a couple of
[58:51] Speaker 2: weeks ago, I had this dream when I woke up
[58:54] Speaker 2: and I just had Moloch Moloch. I was repeating Moloch,
[58:58] Speaker 2: and I was like, that doesn't look like you know
[59:04] Speaker 2: anything good. I've done this contract removal, but I I
[59:13] Speaker 2: forgot about it, you know, I thought it worked, but
[59:15] Speaker 2: their work. And then I was I checked myself once
[59:19] Speaker 2: a week or something with with the person I worked with,
[59:23] Speaker 2: who is the intuitive, and and we were examining my
[59:27] Speaker 2: soul to try to see if I have any any
[59:30] Speaker 2: attachments or anything, and uh, and I had something. And
[59:35] Speaker 2: then I check what the being looks like. And I
[59:39] Speaker 2: didn't say anything to the psyche about this, and he says,
[59:42] Speaker 2: it looks like a minotaur, like a bull, humanoid bull
[59:47] Speaker 2: with you know, the nose ring, and you know that's molloc, right,
[59:54] Speaker 2: So so it just showed I got hijacked in the
[59:59] Speaker 2: dream I and I didn't know. So in my case,
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: you know, obviously I'm a little bit different. I gotta
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: watch out because of what we do. But you know,
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: you can try to remove contracts yourself, put strong intention
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: to the source or you know, with your soul, but
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: it's often that not everything's gonna work because they have
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: tricks as well. They have like types of contracts that
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: if you remove it, it creates a copy, for example,
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: all sets of trickeries and tricks.
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: And you said you can help people remotely with some
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: of this stuff, right.
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, because it works with the soul, you know, So
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: we just tap into the soul if we have an agreement,
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: physical agreement, and then we try to examine the soul
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: what's going on and the subtle body truckers system. And
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: it's also interesting with chocolates because it looks like almost
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: always a lot of these blockages or attachments or any
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: implants or anything seals they are installed on chakras. And
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: you know, there is a theory in this regressive hypnosis
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: field that even chakras are a form of manipulation because
[1:01:24] Speaker 2: you hear about like crystal children or whatever that they
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: apparently have one chakra, like there is just the core
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: the heart, you know, and the whole thing is just
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: like a bubble radiating from the center and you don't
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: have like seven main chakras because you have more but
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: the main ones in the body. So you know, there
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: is this whole thing that maybe this whole reality you
[1:01:53] Speaker 2: know with the densities is a form of world created
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: to harvest energy or something, you know, because it's it's
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: interesting how how this works with chatras. Like always these
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: seals whatever they are on chatras and you know, like
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: depend like they might like sexual energy, so this might
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: be a portal on on this second chakra from the
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: bottom or something attached that's gonna suck. Maybe they want
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: to block the furd eye or like harvest, you know,
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: send different signals. Sometimes it's like it can be some
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: things on your legs to block the earthing, you know
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: with the earth, like you absorb the energy from Earth
[1:02:39] Speaker 2: and you might have something that's gonna absorb less energy.
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: It's always like either to weaken the field. We can
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: aura or you know, maybe take it, or can be
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: that something that pisces you off, like something that annoys
[1:02:56] Speaker 2: you and a person is going to be getting angry easily. Yeah,
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: and then that's the energy that they like, you know,
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: then they're going to harvest that type of energy.
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: Do you think there is a way to bypass the
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: arconic soul trap system and make our way out of here?
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: Yeah. So one thing is always like if you would
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: ever get yourself in this life review blah blah blah
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: with any kind of you know, counsoles or whoever it's
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: going to show up, I would say, like, first of all,
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: you know you you you have the power, like they
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: cannot do anything without your free will. So you can
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: try to request original form of the beat. Maybe it's
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: gonna work out in this case because you know, like
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: everything is free will, so you can try to request that.
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: You can try to look at the being in the
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: eyes because it's hard to cover the eyes, and you
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: know the eyes will very often reveal the true nature.
[1:04:12] Speaker 2: Try to hold the being's hand. You can then feel
[1:04:17] Speaker 2: very often like there is a holographic something. That's one option,
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: Like I would say the straight away, if you're conscious
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: and you left the body, just put intention. I want
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: to go to a place where which is safe, like
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: just put intention like this because it's astral so you
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: can teleport instantly and you know, like straight away, just
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: get out of there or don't even get involved in
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: discussions or anything, no matter how convincing they might appear.
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: So that's like some of the things. If you already
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: like it looks convincing whatever you talk to them or something,
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: you can try to to like request or exact form
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: their real form because they often can come off us
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: and you know, look into the eyes, try to touch them.
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: And definitely never agree to any contracts agreements like that.
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: If there is any agreement or contract or something written
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: or even like wording, that's definitely a manipulation, definitely, because
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: like no good being is going to give you a
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: contract or any kind of agreement. If you come here
[1:05:33] Speaker 2: with your real soul plan or even if you want
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: to have a difficult life for some reason, like maybe
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: you want to challenge yourself, you know, grow, then you're
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: not going to be signing any contructs. Probably you might
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: get some agreements with your soul group, like maybe you
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: know you're gonna say, oh, we're going to meet again,
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: you know, to do something again, or something to exchange
[1:05:59] Speaker 2: maybe a situation now I'm gonna be in the other
[1:06:02] Speaker 2: side or something like that. But it's not gonna look
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: like you know, councils are in someone giving you some
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: agreements or whatever.
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: Last few minutes, any final thoughts to close out with
[1:06:16] Speaker 1: the discussion for today.
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I I probably if you feel
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: like you're to try these types of sessions like I'm doing,
[1:06:29] Speaker 2: I do some sessions that are you know, not very expensive.
[1:06:34] Speaker 2: And this can be just to examine, like if you
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: have anything, if you what kind of agreements, and then
[1:06:41] Speaker 2: you do with it what you want, you can you know,
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: you can try to remove it. We can try to
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: remove it for you whatever. I can explain this, So
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: just just to go to my website throughphy dot com
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: or find me on social media Mi Sgula. But overall,
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: you know, I would say to remember to people not
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: take part in any rituals or even if you are
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: in a ritual setting, you can always try to like say, okay,
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: whatever happens in this ritual, it has to happen for
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: my highest good. If not, I don't participate or I
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: don't agree to anything, just kind of be conscious, you
[1:07:28] Speaker 2: know about things like that, because there's always a lot
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: of maipulation. You know, I can give you a lot
[1:07:34] Speaker 2: of examples of rituals that people think are positive, they're
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: non rituals. Hindu rituals whatever, and when we look into
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: it or like people understand the mechanics a bit, what
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: happens to the person later it's a trickery as well.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: And same with magic, you know, spells, all these like
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: books about like using some kind of magic to many
[1:08:00] Speaker 2: something get some result. Somost always a trickery. It's kind
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: of you get one thing, but there is a cost
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: ass sated that people don't even know there is, you know,
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: So just to be very careful about these things. If
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: you already get yourself in a situation like let's say
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: you went to some gathering or some retreat or something
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: they do something like that, just to kind of have
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: your own intention that this is only for my highest good.
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: If not I do not allow it or something like that,
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: remember from the hard level, like not from your thoughts,
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: but more from the heart center. And I don't better
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: to not pray to any Jesus Ascended Master's archangels whatever,
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: because it's very often a trickery as well. If you
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: want to pray break to the source or your higher
[1:08:51] Speaker 2: self or just your soul or something like that, I
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: think you can get almost everything done with them right on.
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: Thank you so much, We'll definitely do this again until
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