# FKN Classics Double Feature! Brad Olsen - Antarctic Na#is | Ryan Burns - Matrix Wardens

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 15 Aug 2026, 2 h 02 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
[0:07] Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show Brad Olsen.
[0:10] Speaker 1: He's an award winning author, book publisher, and event producer.
[0:14] Speaker 1: His keynote presentations and interviews continue to enlighten audiences at
[0:19] Speaker 1: several events, and he has appeared on dozens of radio
[0:23] Speaker 1: and television shows, including Ancient Aliens, America on Earth, Beyond Belief,
[0:28] Speaker 1: and Mysteries of the Outdoors. Brad, welcome back.
[0:31] Speaker 2: How you doing, hey, Chris. I'm doing great. Always nice
[0:36] Speaker 2: to be back on Forbidden Knowledge News where we talk
[0:38] Speaker 2: about all things forbidden.
[0:40] Speaker 1: That's it, man, It is great to have you back.
[0:42] Speaker 1: Always enjoy our conversations. I'm looking forward to hearing about
[0:46] Speaker 1: your latest adventures and research. You have a new book out.
[0:51] Speaker 1: You also have some updates to the Antarctica mysteries about
[0:56] Speaker 1: a possible Nazi U boat route under the ice. Also,
[1:00] Speaker 1: you just got back from Borneo. So much to discuss here.
[1:04] Speaker 1: Before we get too deep into any of it, remind
[1:07] Speaker 1: the audience that may not be familiar just a little
[1:09] Speaker 1: bit about yourself and let them know where they can
[1:12] Speaker 1: find out more about you.
[1:17] Speaker 2: Sure, thanks, Yeah, Well you can find out more about
[1:20] Speaker 2: me and projects I'm working on at Brad Olsen dot
[1:22] Speaker 2: com just like it's spelled. That is also my conference
[1:29] Speaker 2: schedule upcoming if you want to come here any of
[1:33] Speaker 2: my talks, they're all listed there, and also you can
[1:39] Speaker 2: go to CDCC Publishing dot com is the publishing website
[1:44] Speaker 2: that has all my books as well as a lot
[1:47] Speaker 2: of other authors such as Laura Eisenhower, Michael Jacob, Leon,
[1:51] Speaker 2: Lion Zagami on My Little Cat, and others. So if
[1:57] Speaker 2: people were to get one of my books from CCC Publishing,
[2:04] Speaker 2: then I'm able to sign copies for people. The only
[2:07] Speaker 2: way to get a signed copy apart from seeing me
[2:11] Speaker 2: at a conference and get one at my book table.
[2:14] Speaker 2: So invite people to check that out. And you can
[2:17] Speaker 2: also read all the books using the Google Books app
[2:23] Speaker 2: on CCC Publishing, So check that out and awesome get
[2:28] Speaker 2: your book sent out.
[2:30] Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I'll have links easily accessible for everyone
[2:34] Speaker 1: who wants to check that out. Let's start with some
[2:37] Speaker 1: of your latest adventures. Brad, tell us about Borneo. What
[2:40] Speaker 1: brought you there?
[2:44] Speaker 2: So seven of my ten books, my first seven books
[2:49] Speaker 2: were all travel related books. So I was doing a
[2:57] Speaker 2: press trip to the country of Malay in January, and
[3:04] Speaker 2: part of that trip was to the island of Borneo,
[3:07] Speaker 2: which is just above the equator and has three countries
[3:15] Speaker 2: in the island and the biggest part is Indonesia and
[3:19] Speaker 2: the southern part of Borneo, but there's also Malaysia on
[3:23] Speaker 2: the top half and then tiny little Brunei is a
[3:28] Speaker 2: sultanate in northern Borneo. So I was going to the
[3:33] Speaker 2: area of Saba, which is the northern portion of Borneo,
[3:38] Speaker 2: and was doing some trekking around Mount Kinnabalu, which is
[3:45] Speaker 2: the tallest mountain in Southeast Asia between New Guinea and
[3:50] Speaker 2: the Himalayas. I wasn't able to climb the mountain, which
[3:54] Speaker 2: was my intention coming into this trip, but I just
[3:57] Speaker 2: didn't have enough lead time because he got a book
[4:00] Speaker 2: guide and they restrict the amount of hikers in there.
[4:05] Speaker 2: But I got to the to the beginning of the
[4:08] Speaker 2: hike and the botanical gardens around there, wrote and I
[4:12] Speaker 2: wrote an article about volcanoes around the world and highlighted
[4:16] Speaker 2: Mount Kinnabalu. Also did a great track into the primary
[4:24] Speaker 2: jungles what they call the old growth rainforest, and that
[4:29] Speaker 2: was with Borneo Tours. That's the website Borneo tours and
[4:36] Speaker 2: they took us in some credible caves and also hiking,
[4:43] Speaker 2: trekking through the jungle and going to eco villages near waterfalls.
[4:48] Speaker 2: It was really amazing, but sad to say that most
[4:53] Speaker 2: of the primary forest in Borneo has been cut down
[5:00] Speaker 2: starting in the nineteen eighties and continuing to this day.
[5:04] Speaker 2: They're under ten percent of their old growth rainforest is
[5:07] Speaker 2: all that's left, and it since turned the once clear
[5:12] Speaker 2: rivers orange and has taken its toll on the people
[5:19] Speaker 2: who used to live in the forested areas as well
[5:24] Speaker 2: as the orangutan. And the reason is once you take
[5:28] Speaker 2: down the big, large teak trees and ironwood that hold
[5:34] Speaker 2: up the canopy of the rainforest, then the jungle starts
[5:40] Speaker 2: growing from the bottom up again. But while you have
[5:43] Speaker 2: the canopy, it's so thick, it's so dense that very
[5:47] Speaker 2: little light makes its way all the way to the
[5:49] Speaker 2: bottom of the canopy. So the people who live there
[5:53] Speaker 2: just twenty five years ago were able to sustain themselves
[5:58] Speaker 2: with a hunting in the jungle, wild boar or fishing
[6:03] Speaker 2: in the rivers. Now all clogged up from deforestation, and
[6:07] Speaker 2: it's forced these people who just eighty years ago Chris
[6:11] Speaker 2: were still headhunters. I mean, they're just two generations removed
[6:17] Speaker 2: from stone age lifestyle. Now they have to live with
[6:22] Speaker 2: money because they can't grow their own food. They can't
[6:26] Speaker 2: hunt or fish anymore, not like they used to, and
[6:29] Speaker 2: so now they're forced into the system. Similarly, the orangutang,
[6:34] Speaker 2: these large primates that live in Borneo and other islands
[6:39] Speaker 2: in Southeast Asia, they too are taken out of the
[6:47] Speaker 2: food chain because they weren't They cannot gather their food
[6:53] Speaker 2: on the floor of the jungle, so they have to
[6:58] Speaker 2: put them all into sanctuaries, which is really sad. There
[7:02] Speaker 2: are still a few wild tribes left, and when we
[7:06] Speaker 2: were in a portion of the primary jungle, there was
[7:11] Speaker 2: a report of a young juvenile orangutang coming down to
[7:15] Speaker 2: the trail and they were spotted. So the good news
[7:19] Speaker 2: is the jungle is coming back. Some of the older
[7:21] Speaker 2: trees or the newer trees are old enough to start
[7:27] Speaker 2: becoming a middle canopy type forests. The jungle is still
[7:32] Speaker 2: very thick because once orangutans, especially the males, reach maturity,
[7:38] Speaker 2: they're too heavy to climb in the trees anymore, so
[7:40] Speaker 2: they have to live on the floor of the jungle,
[7:45] Speaker 2: and when there's no canopy of trees, it's too dense
[7:50] Speaker 2: for them to move around or find food. So unfortunately
[7:53] Speaker 2: they have suffered the consequences of deforestation. Two. But there
[7:58] Speaker 2: are groups that are working hard to bring back all
[8:02] Speaker 2: of the habitats of the animals. And we saw some
[8:07] Speaker 2: other wild monkeys and lots of birds there too. So
[8:12] Speaker 2: it was just a great way to well, leave cold
[8:17] Speaker 2: North America in the middle of January and go down
[8:19] Speaker 2: to Malaysia and Borneo for a couple of weeks and
[8:24] Speaker 2: experience life in the giggle.
[8:26] Speaker 1: Well, you've traveled over much of this planet and you
[8:30] Speaker 1: were just mentioning the deforestation and how some of these
[8:35] Speaker 1: tribes were forced into the system. It doesn't seem like
[8:40] Speaker 1: there's too many places left that hasn't seen the fingerprint
[8:45] Speaker 1: of these parasites, this globalist order that is infesting everything.
[8:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that exactly right, Chris. It is pretty
[8:57] Speaker 2: much a worldwide phenomenon of exploiting natural resources. Even Antarctica
[9:06] Speaker 2: is now under threat of the Antarctica Treaty, which preserves
[9:10] Speaker 2: the whole continent as a biosphere as a reserve. They
[9:16] Speaker 2: are trying to break down the treaties so they can
[9:19] Speaker 2: go in and mine and harvest the minerals and the
[9:25] Speaker 2: animals of Antarctica. So it hasn't quite happened yet, so
[9:30] Speaker 2: I'd say Antarca is pretty much the last place that
[9:33] Speaker 2: hasn't been exploited, but they're trying and it might happen.
[9:38] Speaker 1: Well, since you mentioned Antarctica, let's get some updates to
[9:42] Speaker 1: some of the research that you've done. We had you
[9:46] Speaker 1: on a couple of times to discuss the trip he
[9:48] Speaker 1: took out there, which is incredible. But can you tell
[9:52] Speaker 1: us anything that has been revealed recently.
[10:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on my eleventh book. It's called Secrets
[10:06] Speaker 2: of Antarctica. It'll be out at the end of year.
[10:10] Speaker 2: But I have this really great research assistant that heard
[10:15] Speaker 2: me on an interview and we got in touch with
[10:17] Speaker 2: each other, and his line of research is the same
[10:20] Speaker 2: as mine, which is looking into the high technology of
[10:26] Speaker 2: the Germans, both before the war and then afterwards, and
[10:32] Speaker 2: their incredible ability to use their U boats to go
[10:37] Speaker 2: fast distances and very advanced U boats to go all
[10:42] Speaker 2: the way down to Antarctica, sometimes without even coming up
[10:45] Speaker 2: to the surface for oxygen or to travel that they
[10:50] Speaker 2: were the predecessors of the nuclear submarines and the latest
[10:55] Speaker 2: version they were just rolling out in nineteen forty five
[10:59] Speaker 2: at the end of the war that became part of
[11:02] Speaker 2: the Furors convoy. And this research assistant who he lives
[11:09] Speaker 2: in Denmark. He speaks German fluently and is able to
[11:12] Speaker 2: go through a lot of documents that have come out
[11:17] Speaker 2: ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, when a
[11:22] Speaker 2: lot of very top secret documents and files and video
[11:29] Speaker 2: went to the black market in nineteen ninety ninety one,
[11:35] Speaker 2: you could show up in Moscow with a suitcase full
[11:39] Speaker 2: of hard currency dollars perhaps and by some of these files.
[11:49] Speaker 2: In fact, there's alien autopsy videos that came out of
[11:52] Speaker 2: Russia that were leaked at this time. There crashed UFO
[11:58] Speaker 2: videos and as it pertains to my research, there are
[12:05] Speaker 2: these maps that show the under ice environment in Antarctica.
[12:12] Speaker 2: It's really amazing. There over one hundred and fifty of
[12:17] Speaker 2: these maps that were printed up at the very end
[12:20] Speaker 2: of World War Two in December nineteen forty four, and
[12:25] Speaker 2: they were one hundred and fifty of these maps for
[12:29] Speaker 2: the U boats that were still going out in nineteen
[12:32] Speaker 2: forty five for the captains to be able to navigate
[12:37] Speaker 2: a route down below New Schwabenland, the claim of the
[12:43] Speaker 2: Germans to go under the ice with As you know Germans,
[12:49] Speaker 2: they are very precise in their calculations when to dive,
[12:54] Speaker 2: when to come up, how far to go, and it
[12:57] Speaker 2: was all under the ice. They would come up to
[13:01] Speaker 2: a lake and then travel across the surface of the
[13:03] Speaker 2: lake and then dive down below the ice again and
[13:06] Speaker 2: come up at a place where the officers and the
[13:10] Speaker 2: crew were meant to read Packet three, which is how
[13:17] Speaker 2: to speak to the people of Agartha. They use that
[13:22] Speaker 2: name specifically. And so with this research with Frank, not
[13:28] Speaker 2: only these very advanced U boat submarines that were able
[13:32] Speaker 2: to dive down to the depths that were required in
[13:36] Speaker 2: the map, but they were also they were recruiting young
[13:42] Speaker 2: men who usually were orphans or had no family back home,
[13:47] Speaker 2: and it was largely a one way trip. There was
[13:51] Speaker 2: a letter from one of the U boat soldiers who
[13:57] Speaker 2: somehow got this letter out but was saying that he
[14:02] Speaker 2: was on a one way trip, that they're not held hostage,
[14:05] Speaker 2: but they're going in and they probably wouldn't be able
[14:08] Speaker 2: to ever come out again. And he's saying the theory
[14:15] Speaker 2: of Inner Earth is true, that we're down here and
[14:18] Speaker 2: we're going to this Sydney under the ice called Agartha
[14:25] Speaker 2: or I think this is where they also built or
[14:30] Speaker 2: co opted their New Berlin base. So there are two
[14:33] Speaker 2: bases in Antarctica founded by the Nazis before World War
[14:39] Speaker 2: two even started. One of them was Base two eleven,
[14:43] Speaker 2: and I do believe I know the location of that
[14:46] Speaker 2: is near the Schumacher Ponds or the Schumacher Hills, at
[14:50] Speaker 2: least that's where the exploratory party found an entrance, also
[14:54] Speaker 2: under the ice, but that was more of a near
[14:59] Speaker 2: surface base with a couple of outbuildings, and then this
[15:03] Speaker 2: New Berlin base was much larger. This is where most
[15:07] Speaker 2: of the personnel and all of the discs that the
[15:12] Speaker 2: Third Reich were working on during World War two were
[15:17] Speaker 2: able to be dismantled and fit into some of these
[15:21] Speaker 2: larger U boats in the Fure's convoy that all went
[15:25] Speaker 2: missing at the end of World War two. Well a
[15:28] Speaker 2: couple of them turned up in Laplata, Argentina in the
[15:33] Speaker 2: months following World War two, and they even admitted that
[15:36] Speaker 2: they were part of the Furs convoy and they had
[15:38] Speaker 2: just come back from Antarctica for whatever reason, had to
[15:43] Speaker 2: surrender in Argentina, especially U boat five point thirty, in
[15:49] Speaker 2: which the captain spoke of their trip under interrogation and
[15:54] Speaker 2: told the Americans what they were doing there. So this
[15:58] Speaker 2: has opened the whole possibility that some of the German
[16:04] Speaker 2: Navy never did surrender. In fact, there's over one hundred
[16:09] Speaker 2: U boats in the German Navy that have never been
[16:13] Speaker 2: accounted for and never been found either, and many of
[16:16] Speaker 2: these are in this fure convoy. So with my research
[16:22] Speaker 2: and working with this man, Frank camer, we were able
[16:27] Speaker 2: to find and chart out the route that those U
[16:31] Speaker 2: boats took from the time they went under the ice
[16:34] Speaker 2: offshore New Schwabenland straight on through under the ice to
[16:41] Speaker 2: get to this lighthouse of Agartha, where they were meant
[16:45] Speaker 2: to surface and open and pack at three to speak
[16:49] Speaker 2: to the people of this Inner Earth. But it's not
[16:52] Speaker 2: really inner Earth under the mantle of the Earth. It's
[16:57] Speaker 2: actually just under the ice. Because the polar plateau around
[17:03] Speaker 2: the South Pole area is where the ice is about
[17:07] Speaker 2: two miles thick. And because Antarctica is the most volcanically
[17:13] Speaker 2: active continent in the world, you have the propensity for
[17:17] Speaker 2: these large under ice domes to be created. In fact,
[17:22] Speaker 2: they've already discovered quite a few of them using sonar
[17:27] Speaker 2: scanning the top of the ice shelves and using ground
[17:33] Speaker 2: sonar technology, including large freshwater lakes under the ice that
[17:39] Speaker 2: never freeze from the geothermal activity. So it's quite plausible
[17:44] Speaker 2: that these U boats were able to navigate very deeply
[17:49] Speaker 2: into the interior of the Antarctica continent. And then so
[17:55] Speaker 2: what I found so interesting is when we plodded out
[18:00] Speaker 2: the root of these U boats from these maps that
[18:04] Speaker 2: were leaked at the end of the Cold War, it
[18:09] Speaker 2: was almost to where the geographic South Pole is located.
[18:15] Speaker 2: And that's very important and interesting because that's also where
[18:21] Speaker 2: Admiral Byrd, who is the very first pilot to fly
[18:25] Speaker 2: over the South Pole in the late nineteen twenties, must
[18:32] Speaker 2: have seen this massive hole under the ice because the
[18:36] Speaker 2: beginning of an Operation High Jump in late nineteen forty six,
[18:40] Speaker 2: he flew back with just a single pilot and they
[18:46] Speaker 2: went off the radar for three hours, presumably flying into
[18:51] Speaker 2: this massive hole. And they went down and they visited
[18:57] Speaker 2: the domain of the Ariani according to his diary, and
[19:03] Speaker 2: that too is very close to the seal Pole, So
[19:07] Speaker 2: I think we could even put them together. Agartha domain
[19:13] Speaker 2: of Ariani. They, of course, with the Aninerby society. The
[19:18] Speaker 2: Germans were very interested in finding the root race of
[19:22] Speaker 2: the Aryan people, and so these are all similar sounding
[19:27] Speaker 2: names in a similar location two miles underneath the ice.
[19:32] Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy these maps. Are they accessible to the
[19:37] Speaker 1: general public?
[19:41] Speaker 2: Yes they are if you know what you're looking for,
[19:43] Speaker 2: and if you like, I could share screen and yeah, they'll.
[19:46] Speaker 1: Turn your screen share on. That'd be great. Aw, you
[19:50] Speaker 1: got it.
[19:52] Speaker 2: Let me just start out by showing you what these
[19:55] Speaker 2: uh nuclear submarines look like and the Walter boat B
[20:04] Speaker 2: eighty Do you see that one? Is that on there yet? Okay?
[20:09] Speaker 2: And then actually if I can you see the.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Whole just you can probably just pull them up as you.
[20:16] Speaker 2: Go flip over. Yeah, these are all in the chapter
[20:19] Speaker 2: called Nazis in Antarctica. These are some of the passports
[20:23] Speaker 2: to New Schwabenland. Really that they found some of these
[20:27] Speaker 2: young military men. And there are also officers that were
[20:36] Speaker 2: part of this Furer convoy. There's an officer and it
[20:39] Speaker 2: even says right there on the passport kriegs Marine Fuer Convoy.
[20:45] Speaker 1: Do you know if these have been authenticated.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Yes, they have. Frank did some research on this and
[20:57] Speaker 2: we found that the kriegs Marine were very much that
[21:02] Speaker 2: Fear's convoy, a very real thing within the division. I
[21:07] Speaker 2: don't know if we have found that these individuals have
[21:10] Speaker 2: been verified yet, but the Germans were in charge of
[21:16] Speaker 2: so much high information. Here's that letter from Carl Unger
[21:25] Speaker 2: and he basically says that the U boat, commanded by
[21:33] Speaker 2: Captain Heinrich Broda, veteran officer of the Third Right believing
[21:41] Speaker 2: the theory of an existence into the inter realm, among
[21:45] Speaker 2: those aboard you vote two nine was an old friend,
[21:49] Speaker 2: Carl Hunger. I received his communication. This is the person
[21:52] Speaker 2: who received his letter sometime after the war had ended.
[21:57] Speaker 2: I know it is genuine. I know his handwriting well well.
[22:01] Speaker 2: The approximate translation of carl a letter is as follows.
[22:05] Speaker 2: Dear old comrade, this news will be a surprise for you.
[22:09] Speaker 2: The U two nine U boat made it. The earth
[22:14] Speaker 2: is hollow. Doctor Hashoffer and Hesse were right, the whole
[22:21] Speaker 2: crew as well, but they cannot come back. We are
[22:25] Speaker 2: not prisoners. I am sure this news will reach you.
[22:30] Speaker 2: It is the last connection then from U boat to nine,
[22:35] Speaker 2: we will meet again. Comrade. I am worried for everyone
[22:39] Speaker 2: who has to spend his life on the surface of
[22:41] Speaker 2: the earth. Since I can't read that last word under
[22:48] Speaker 2: here is gone. God bless our Germany always with hearty greetings.
[22:54] Speaker 2: Carl's anger. Wow. And so there's just all of these
[22:59] Speaker 2: co operating pieces of evidence, Chris that shows that this
[23:05] Speaker 2: is where these U boats disappeared. Coroberating evidence how they
[23:11] Speaker 2: did it. Here's the most advanced submarine which, by the way,
[23:15] Speaker 2: a lot a lot of these submarine scientists came over
[23:20] Speaker 2: to the United States with Project paper Clip and they
[23:25] Speaker 2: helped the United States create nuclear submarines and these very advanced,
[23:31] Speaker 2: very fast submarine types. And that's how we got such
[23:38] Speaker 2: a head start. Of course, we've all heard of Project
[23:42] Speaker 2: Bluebeam and Victor Schallenberger creating the disc shape during his
[23:51] Speaker 2: early years. But I want to find the maps because
[23:54] Speaker 2: this is when it really gets good. Chapter on getting
[23:59] Speaker 2: a little preview here, Okay, here it is, yeah, never
[24:05] Speaker 2: before seen. It's all gonna come out in my book
[24:07] Speaker 2: this year. So Frank Dekamer has written in English what
[24:17] Speaker 2: a lot of these German names are, and we still
[24:19] Speaker 2: cannot figure out what val Karisher Ocean is. So if
[24:25] Speaker 2: any of your listeners can give any kind of qualification
[24:31] Speaker 2: of where that might be, that would be great. And
[24:33] Speaker 2: so the other location in these maps is called Osgard,
[24:37] Speaker 2: another A word, so that there's three A words. The
[24:41] Speaker 2: domain of the Ariani Osgard you've also got and it's
[24:48] Speaker 2: on here. The city of the Asses that's a fifth one,
[24:56] Speaker 2: the Arian people and agartha five A names. And so
[25:03] Speaker 2: you can see here where the city of the Azaris is.
[25:07] Speaker 2: This would be the entrance under the ice. And on
[25:11] Speaker 2: the map is a U boat stump put der Kutzmrine,
[25:18] Speaker 2: so that means U boat fulcrum of the German navy,
[25:22] Speaker 2: so repair station, refueling re supplying station. Here's New Berlin
[25:30] Speaker 2: right on the map, within this land mass called New Schwabenland.
[25:35] Speaker 2: So Frank and I presume that you're coming under the
[25:37] Speaker 2: ice shelf. And by the time you get to the
[25:41] Speaker 2: first land area that is the land mass that's holding
[25:47] Speaker 2: up New Schwabenland, there is a big mountain range, all
[25:50] Speaker 2: with German names, and under the ice they also set
[25:56] Speaker 2: up their city, New Berlin. And so it is on
[26:03] Speaker 2: an island and to the north of this is the
[26:06] Speaker 2: city of Assis. Why this island of the mountain Sangin
[26:11] Speaker 2: also is marked remains unclear. Frank says, I assume it
[26:17] Speaker 2: is explained in another set, that is Map three of
[26:21] Speaker 2: the instructive maps that is being mentioned on the larger
[26:24] Speaker 2: map of which there is a cutout and only was
[26:27] Speaker 2: to be opened after reaching the lighthouse of Agartha, which
[26:33] Speaker 2: is not shown here, but it is mentioned in this map.
[26:38] Speaker 2: So let me find the full map of this, because
[26:42] Speaker 2: this is when it really gets interesting, because it also
[26:46] Speaker 2: shows these different ways to get through the content. And
[26:52] Speaker 2: this is what it would look like without the ice
[26:57] Speaker 2: on top. So the ice is in blue. Frank charted
[27:02] Speaker 2: out the green line the entrance to Agartha from the
[27:06] Speaker 2: German maps, and you can see how close it is
[27:10] Speaker 2: to the south pole, close where, and that is also
[27:14] Speaker 2: in the direction where Admiral Byrd also found the uh
[27:25] Speaker 2: the giant hole under the ice. And I've spoken with
[27:29] Speaker 2: Brian s who is the whistleblower for Linda Moulton Howe,
[27:36] Speaker 2: and he described to me and to Linda in great detail,
[27:40] Speaker 2: when they defied orders to fly over the no fly
[27:44] Speaker 2: zone that they saw this hole in the ice and
[27:48] Speaker 2: there were tracks coming from the South Pole station for
[27:51] Speaker 2: snowmobiles for snow cats, there was actually a road that
[27:54] Speaker 2: corkscrews down into it and it's protected by the NSA.
[27:59] Speaker 2: So this map here, this is also on the big
[28:03] Speaker 2: blue map that I just showed you. This is another
[28:05] Speaker 2: part of it that shows the direction that the U
[28:11] Speaker 2: boats would take, and so you can see it starts
[28:14] Speaker 2: out out in the ocean, dives down and then comes
[28:20] Speaker 2: up into a lake under the ice, and then travels
[28:25] Speaker 2: some distance before it drops down again under the ice.
[28:29] Speaker 2: And then at the end where it pops up not
[28:31] Speaker 2: far from the Salt Pole, is where they are to
[28:35] Speaker 2: open Packet three for their introduction into Agartha. So this
[28:42] Speaker 2: is just incredible research. I got to hand it to
[28:45] Speaker 2: Frank de Kammer for allowing me to share this. Here
[28:51] Speaker 2: is just detailed information about how they did those dives.
[28:56] Speaker 2: So it's not only represented in that form, but it's
[29:00] Speaker 2: also written out to the U boat captains. And these
[29:04] Speaker 2: were individually created with a stamp on each one for
[29:10] Speaker 2: the one hundred and fifty U boat captains that were
[29:13] Speaker 2: going out in nineteen forty five to Antarctica. So at
[29:17] Speaker 2: the end of the war they were very very interested
[29:20] Speaker 2: in getting material and personnel out of Germany and then
[29:25] Speaker 2: down there to Antarctica. But I would say some of
[29:27] Speaker 2: it also went to South America where they had very
[29:31] Speaker 2: large landholdings, and still to this day the wealthiest people
[29:36] Speaker 2: of South America are the Germans. And so when you
[29:41] Speaker 2: have these diving instructions, this is the same form that
[29:47] Speaker 2: Frank translated. So dive to a depth of four hundred meters,
[29:54] Speaker 2: which is very very deep. So only those advanced submarines
[29:58] Speaker 2: at the very end could probably make it. We've also
[30:04] Speaker 2: found some under ice cities with the help of doctor
[30:09] Speaker 2: Michael Sala and others. It's just an incredible amount of
[30:16] Speaker 2: research we found here, largely based on these incredible maps.
[30:22] Speaker 1: Now these is this is all true, It would add
[30:25] Speaker 1: to the possibility that maybe extraterrestrials aren't coming from outer
[30:30] Speaker 1: space different planets. Maybe there are very advanced beings that
[30:35] Speaker 1: live in these inner Earth realms. And on top of that,
[30:39] Speaker 1: you hear about the theories of breakaway civilizations, this Fourth
[30:45] Speaker 1: Right that came out of the Nazi regime, that was
[30:50] Speaker 1: given at extremely advanced technology by supposedly these beings. Could
[30:56] Speaker 1: it be that this is still the same breakaway civilization
[30:59] Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with the situation we're
[31:03] Speaker 1: in collectively, the New World Order, some of the agendas
[31:08] Speaker 1: that have come out of it.
[31:09] Speaker 3: What do you think.
[31:13] Speaker 2: You're right on the tip there, Chris, because Frank has
[31:17] Speaker 2: also started to interpret several of these other illustrations, such
[31:25] Speaker 2: as the one on the right is from the Markaruv file.
[31:30] Speaker 2: So this guy was working on the Annerby information. So
[31:37] Speaker 2: the Society for the Prehistorical Spiritual German Annerby, which is
[31:43] Speaker 2: them looking into their origins, very very top secret stuff,
[31:49] Speaker 2: but was collected by the Russians at the end of
[31:52] Speaker 2: World War Two. They were the first to get to
[31:54] Speaker 2: Berlin and when they got into the Navy department, it
[31:59] Speaker 2: was this treasure trove of documents, including ancient Tibetan would
[32:05] Speaker 2: kind of look like a mandala. But then the Reich's Fur,
[32:12] Speaker 2: the anna Nerby Society working under the Fur himself. He
[32:16] Speaker 2: was a total occultist. Hitler, Himmler, Hess Goebbels, who financed
[32:24] Speaker 2: the Antarctica trips. They were all really into this stuff,
[32:29] Speaker 2: and so they took this Tibetan mandala looking image out
[32:35] Speaker 2: of Tibet. So this is really interesting too. The Germans
[32:40] Speaker 2: go in this big expedition in the mid late nineteen
[32:45] Speaker 2: thirties about nineteen thirty seven, thirty six, thirty seven, came
[32:52] Speaker 2: back at the beginning of thirty eight with detailed instructions
[32:58] Speaker 2: from people that they had under the Tibetan plateau, taken
[33:02] Speaker 2: there by the Dalai Lama himself and very high Tibetan
[33:07] Speaker 2: monks to this inner earth below Tibet. They returned with
[33:12] Speaker 2: the directions to go this under ice route and all
[33:18] Speaker 2: of these Tibetan mondala stuff that the Anerbi Society has
[33:24] Speaker 2: made into this schematics for Inner Earth, as you see
[33:30] Speaker 2: on the left. Frank has translated the German from this
[33:38] Speaker 2: very same Tibetan finding and showing the layers of earth
[33:44] Speaker 2: and how everything is flipped, which I find really interesting
[33:49] Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how to make sense of that.
[33:52] Speaker 2: But the magnetic north pole is at the bottom where
[33:58] Speaker 2: the geo graphical south pole is on the outer surface,
[34:03] Speaker 2: and you can see the ice layers on the surface there,
[34:06] Speaker 2: the fire lava of the middle and the eastern polls.
[34:12] Speaker 2: So then this Russian general, I think, a very high
[34:20] Speaker 2: ranking officer who is working on the annerby files. In
[34:23] Speaker 2: the late nineteen eighties, he was confirmed to have been
[34:27] Speaker 2: working in this department eighty four eighty five. But in
[34:32] Speaker 2: the late nineteen eighties, when Soviet Union was starting to
[34:37] Speaker 2: show cracks, he offered this information for sale on the Internet.
[34:42] Speaker 2: So it started to sell this very top secret information
[34:50] Speaker 2: that the Russians had gained from the Germans at the
[34:53] Speaker 2: end of World War Two, and then about forty years
[34:56] Speaker 2: later we're selling it on the Black Mark. And it's
[35:01] Speaker 2: also a whole bunch of these maps from Tibet that
[35:06] Speaker 2: they got the Germans got in the mid nineteen thirties
[35:11] Speaker 2: before the war even ended, and so they took him
[35:15] Speaker 2: back the Enderby, which was under the SS. By the way,
[35:19] Speaker 2: the SS, the Shoot Staffel was basically like our CIA,
[35:26] Speaker 2: a very advanced secrecy and working directly under the fur
[35:34] Speaker 2: and Hermann Hess as well as Hammler was the head
[35:40] Speaker 2: of the SS, and they were going deep into all
[35:44] Speaker 2: this esoteric information from Tibet and then finding a way
[35:51] Speaker 2: to send their U boats. They got the exact directions
[35:55] Speaker 2: from Tibetans to go underneath the ice in Antarctica, and
[36:01] Speaker 2: this is all in the Merkurov file. And then there's
[36:06] Speaker 2: also the ROM file which also included those maps I
[36:12] Speaker 2: showed you. This's other data dump that came a few
[36:15] Speaker 2: years later, and in the RAM file Frank has done
[36:20] Speaker 2: a deep dive into that and starting to break down
[36:25] Speaker 2: all the information found in there. This was the KGB,
[36:30] Speaker 2: the Secret Service of Soviet Union. They tried to reproduce
[36:37] Speaker 2: the route with their own submarines a few years after
[36:43] Speaker 2: the end of World War Two, trying to use the
[36:45] Speaker 2: schematics I showed you under the ice. But when they
[36:49] Speaker 2: got a little distance in, they were met by ten
[36:53] Speaker 2: other submersibles that made them turn around. So the Germans
[36:58] Speaker 2: were invited in and they were allowed in. The Russians
[37:01] Speaker 2: were turned away. Then the very next year was Operation
[37:06] Speaker 2: High Jump, and that's when the Americans came on the
[37:09] Speaker 2: surface to try to attack Base to eleven near the
[37:15] Speaker 2: Schumacher Hills, and they did bring a submarine which was
[37:20] Speaker 2: sunk as well as losing more than half of their
[37:23] Speaker 2: planes and one of their destroyers called the USS Murdoch.
[37:27] Speaker 2: And the ROM files talks about the route of Operation
[37:33] Speaker 2: High Jump, so another data point showing and it even
[37:37] Speaker 2: talks about these UFOs coming up out of the water
[37:42] Speaker 2: attacking Admiral Bird's flotilla could have taken every single ship out,
[37:49] Speaker 2: but more wanted to send a message back, don't mess
[37:53] Speaker 2: with Antarctica, and of course we didn't. And on the
[37:59] Speaker 2: return trip, Admiral Byrd gave an interview with a journalist
[38:04] Speaker 2: from L Mecurio newspaper, which I reproduced all this stuff
[38:08] Speaker 2: in the new book. It's got to be great. It's
[38:10] Speaker 2: really groundbreaking information, especially with all this these different illustrations
[38:18] Speaker 2: and graphics. But Bird gave an interview right after High
[38:23] Speaker 2: Jump and he said that we would be confronted with
[38:26] Speaker 2: an enemy that has the ability to fly, poll to
[38:28] Speaker 2: pull at incredible speeds. So as soon as Bird gets back,
[38:34] Speaker 2: he's read the Riot Act. He shouldn't have given that interview.
[38:37] Speaker 2: He shouldn't be talking about this. In fact, he was
[38:39] Speaker 2: given a gag order for the rest of his life
[38:42] Speaker 2: never to talk about what happened in Antarctica, both with
[38:46] Speaker 2: High Jump and his flight into this Inner Earth, which
[38:52] Speaker 2: happened of course before the Battle of High Jump. But
[38:54] Speaker 2: he was a military man and still had to take
[38:57] Speaker 2: his orders and then to confront the Germans in New
[39:03] Speaker 2: Schwabenland offshore, and that's where the Battle of High Jump
[39:06] Speaker 2: was only twenty minutes long and was totally a route.
[39:10] Speaker 2: They could not shoot down these craft that came up
[39:12] Speaker 2: out of the water and then disappeared back into the
[39:15] Speaker 2: water after twenty minutes, And that's why High Jump ended
[39:20] Speaker 2: two months into the six month expedition. And then the
[39:26] Speaker 2: whole story of Admiral Bird, who tried to give little
[39:30] Speaker 2: veiled clues. So there was the lung Jeans interview he
[39:34] Speaker 2: gave a year before he passed. He was in great shape,
[39:38] Speaker 2: should not have died as young as he did. There
[39:40] Speaker 2: may be foul play involved in that, but he gave
[39:44] Speaker 2: this interview, the black and white interview with long Jeans watch,
[39:49] Speaker 2: and he says some very peculiar things. He says that
[39:53] Speaker 2: the new explorers can go down to Antarctica. These are
[39:59] Speaker 2: the last unexplored lands of the world, he said, especially
[40:04] Speaker 2: beyond the Pole. And nobody really knows what exactly he meant,
[40:09] Speaker 2: because up on the polar plateau there's nothing but ice
[40:13] Speaker 2: for hundreds of miles in all directions, So there is
[40:15] Speaker 2: no such thing as beyond the Pole. It's the exact
[40:18] Speaker 2: same any direction you go, unless you're going to this
[40:22] Speaker 2: hole in the Ikies which is depicted in this Tibetan
[40:27] Speaker 2: deciphered by the Annonrby Society as this area both in
[40:33] Speaker 2: the North Pole and South Pole region. By the way,
[40:37] Speaker 2: Adamoal Bird was a very accomplished aviator. He was also
[40:40] Speaker 2: the first aviator to fly over the North Pole, although
[40:45] Speaker 2: some historians think that he didn't quite make it far enough,
[40:49] Speaker 2: but he could have made it far enough to see
[40:52] Speaker 2: this massive hole in the ice. And my colleague Brooks
[40:56] Speaker 2: Agnew has the coordinates for the whole in the North
[41:01] Speaker 2: Pole region, and we were talking about doing an expedition
[41:05] Speaker 2: there around the time COVID hit, but that got delayed.
[41:10] Speaker 2: So the Earth is like a toroidal field. There's an
[41:14] Speaker 2: in and an out, which also happens to be portals
[41:20] Speaker 2: in and out to the Vega star system. And that's
[41:25] Speaker 2: perhaps why mentioned ET's under the ice cris why Antarctica
[41:31] Speaker 2: is such an important hub for UFO activity.
[41:34] Speaker 1: Aside from the possibility that it could be a portal
[41:38] Speaker 1: to a different star system. When you look at all
[41:41] Speaker 1: the information that's come out over the past couple of
[41:44] Speaker 1: decades about UFOs and our government and all the research
[41:49] Speaker 1: pointing to the stars and pointing to something outside of
[41:54] Speaker 1: our atmosphere when we could be looking inside of our Earth,
[41:59] Speaker 1: and that seems like a great possibility, especially with all
[42:04] Speaker 1: the information you just presented and a lot of research
[42:08] Speaker 1: that's been done in our modern age points to the
[42:11] Speaker 1: possibility that it's extremely advanced humanoids or if you want
[42:18] Speaker 1: to call them extraterrestrials, there's from somewhere else that have
[42:22] Speaker 1: been here the whole time.
[42:27] Speaker 2: You're right on the tip, Chris. That's exactly my line
[42:30] Speaker 2: of thinking, and Frank's as well. And I don't want
[42:34] Speaker 2: to give away everything in this interview, but I'm also
[42:38] Speaker 2: going to show one of the three massive ships under
[42:44] Speaker 2: the ice. So these have been known about since the
[42:48] Speaker 2: nineteen seventies by our own intelligence agencies, namely the NSA.
[42:53] Speaker 2: Remember no such agency. Well, they were tasked in the
[42:57] Speaker 2: late nineteen forties when they were created to cover for
[43:01] Speaker 2: everything extraterrestrial. So there was a down crash, they would
[43:06] Speaker 2: do the crash rotie ye role. There was a live
[43:09] Speaker 2: or dead alien, they were in charge of helping them
[43:14] Speaker 2: out and working with that or creating a cover story
[43:18] Speaker 2: like Close Encounters of the Third Kind at Devil's Tower
[43:21] Speaker 2: where they had to fake some kind of virus League
[43:25] Speaker 2: they would do all that they were Johnny on the
[43:27] Speaker 2: spot as well as down in Antarctica. And they had
[43:31] Speaker 2: nickname for the three large craft that they knew about
[43:35] Speaker 2: under the ice, and they nicknamed them Nina, Pinta and
[43:39] Speaker 2: Santa Maria, named after the three ships of Columbus's original voyage.
[43:45] Speaker 2: And I'm quite confident that I've located one of those three,
[43:49] Speaker 2: and it happens to be in the Neu Schwabenland area,
[43:53] Speaker 2: at a location called the Conan Base, which is still
[43:56] Speaker 2: a seasonal base run by none other than the Germans, Chris.
[44:02] Speaker 2: The Germans never left New Schwabenland. They may have lost
[44:05] Speaker 2: World War Two in Europe, but they continued their bases
[44:12] Speaker 2: in New Schwabenland all the way to this modern age.
[44:16] Speaker 2: So I was going through maps before my trip down
[44:18] Speaker 2: there in six years ago and going over the bases
[44:23] Speaker 2: that were down there, and I had a map from
[44:26] Speaker 2: the Cold War era. So it was about nineteen eighty
[44:28] Speaker 2: three when the Berlin Wall was still up and Berlin
[44:33] Speaker 2: was divided east and west lo and behold the new
[44:38] Speaker 2: Meyer Base, which is run seasonally year round right there
[44:42] Speaker 2: in New Schwabenland, now called Queen Maudland Is had the
[44:48] Speaker 2: West German flag as well as this base called the
[44:52] Speaker 2: Conan Base koen hn Inland over the Polar Plateau, which
[44:59] Speaker 2: is a seasonal base. And then nineteen or two thy
[45:03] Speaker 2: thirteen can go on the wayback machine and Google and
[45:08] Speaker 2: look at the Conan base. They were doing an excavation
[45:13] Speaker 2: of this large craft under the ice. And I love
[45:18] Speaker 2: it when I can get corresponding data points, and that
[45:23] Speaker 2: is when other researchers come up with information that support
[45:33] Speaker 2: such information like this excavation under the ice. So the
[45:38] Speaker 2: Farsight Institute, the remote viewers, Courtney Brown and some of
[45:43] Speaker 2: his remote viewers used the Conan base as a target,
[45:47] Speaker 2: and they came back and said that indeed there is
[45:50] Speaker 2: some kind of ancient giant craft in this location. They
[45:56] Speaker 2: got in there. It was built for giants much much
[45:59] Speaker 2: tall than we are, not humans at all, very very
[46:03] Speaker 2: old and defunct. But I would propose that this is
[46:08] Speaker 2: one of the three Nina Pinter or Santa Maria motherships
[46:11] Speaker 2: that we've known about since the seventies, and I have
[46:14] Speaker 2: a pretty good idea where the other two are, but
[46:17] Speaker 2: I need some more coroborating information on that. So Vin
[46:21] Speaker 2: your listeners want to be in touch with me if
[46:24] Speaker 2: they think they might know the location of these, especially GPS.
[46:28] Speaker 2: I'm all ears, Well.
[46:30] Speaker 1: You mentioned a second trip to Antarctica that you really
[46:33] Speaker 1: weren't able to make and it got delayed. Is there
[46:36] Speaker 1: still any plans in the works to revisit.
[46:41] Speaker 2: So that that was a trip with Brook's Agnu to
[46:44] Speaker 2: the North Coke region on a Russian icebreaker happened. We
[46:48] Speaker 2: were planning it around the time COVID hit twenty twenty one.
[46:53] Speaker 2: That has been indefinitely delayed. But I do have another
[46:58] Speaker 2: trip planned to Antarctica with a film crew, and this
[47:02] Speaker 2: is what I'm working on with a company called vc Cross,
[47:08] Speaker 2: a venture capital company who is looking to raise the
[47:13] Speaker 2: funds to go back down there so we can film
[47:15] Speaker 2: a documentary. And of course I would go to many
[47:18] Speaker 2: of these locations if we can, but to the Schumacher Ponds,
[47:23] Speaker 2: for example, the South Pole, and then we'd like to
[47:28] Speaker 2: see if we can touch down near the pyramid in
[47:30] Speaker 2: the Ellsworth Range and we can put that story to
[47:34] Speaker 2: bed once and for all. Now, Chris, I got to
[47:37] Speaker 2: understand to do a trip inland not only very expensive,
[47:40] Speaker 2: you got to bring all your supplies with you, and
[47:44] Speaker 2: there's only a window of time you can do a
[47:46] Speaker 2: trip to Antarctica Inland, and that's only between mid November
[47:53] Speaker 2: and mid March, so right about now the last tourists
[47:57] Speaker 2: are heading down there. But we would want to go
[48:01] Speaker 2: down for longer than a week or two, probably a
[48:04] Speaker 2: month if we could to go to all these locations,
[48:09] Speaker 2: And of course you've got to get permission, right But
[48:14] Speaker 2: things are changing right now in our government. We see
[48:17] Speaker 2: that there is this mood of transparency and also a
[48:22] Speaker 2: lot of these three letter agencies are being revamped, opening
[48:28] Speaker 2: up this idea that the citizens should know this information
[48:34] Speaker 2: so we might be able to put ourselves in the
[48:36] Speaker 2: right place at the right time next year to go
[48:39] Speaker 2: down there and possibly get access to some of these
[48:43] Speaker 2: other locations.
[48:44] Speaker 1: You mentioned that you needed permission to get to some
[48:47] Speaker 1: of these locations, and there are a lot of people
[48:51] Speaker 1: that are of the belief that you can just freely
[48:54] Speaker 1: travel anywhere in Antarctica. Talk a little bit about the
[48:58] Speaker 1: permission that you need and who's permit mission are we
[49:01] Speaker 1: asking here.
[49:03] Speaker 2: Right right? Well, So this is my conversation with Linda
[49:09] Speaker 2: Bolton Howe. We just saw last week at the Conscience
[49:12] Speaker 2: Life Expo and her whistleblower Brian S, who both say, wow,
[49:17] Speaker 2: very ambitious plan. If you get the money, count me in.
[49:21] Speaker 2: I'd love to be a part of it, if not
[49:25] Speaker 2: just as a consultant, but in the case of Brian S,
[49:28] Speaker 2: who is accomplished pilot and navigator, to have him come
[49:32] Speaker 2: and chart out our area. But both of them have said,
[49:37] Speaker 2: you got to get past the NSA first. It's actually
[49:42] Speaker 2: the National Science Foundation, the NSF, which writes the checks
[49:49] Speaker 2: for everybody at all the American bases, but they also
[49:53] Speaker 2: are pretty much in control of who goes where and why,
[49:58] Speaker 2: so we'd also have go through the National Science Foundation.
[50:02] Speaker 2: But I think the NSA are the ones that call
[50:06] Speaker 2: the shots for the National Science Foundation. So it's a
[50:11] Speaker 2: little political battle to be able to go to these places.
[50:15] Speaker 2: Now there are places, and I even have a map
[50:17] Speaker 2: that will appear in my book of tourist locations. Places
[50:21] Speaker 2: they say, yeah, yeah, you can go there. But then
[50:23] Speaker 2: there are definitely other areas that are no fly zones,
[50:28] Speaker 2: one of which, of course, is where the giant hole
[50:31] Speaker 2: in the ice, about fifty miles away from the South
[50:36] Speaker 2: Pole Emondson Scott Station is located. So just to give
[50:41] Speaker 2: your listeners heads up. When I went down there six
[50:46] Speaker 2: years ago on a sailboat, a private charter boat with
[50:51] Speaker 2: fourteen of US, eleven Polls and three Americans. The day
[50:55] Speaker 2: before we set sail, we had to go to the
[50:58] Speaker 2: Argentinian Naval Office where our captain submitted our plans to go,
[51:07] Speaker 2: and we also had to give them photo copies of
[51:09] Speaker 2: our passports. And then we went down to the passport
[51:16] Speaker 2: area where cruise ship people come in, and we got
[51:19] Speaker 2: stamped out of Argentina, but did not get stamped in
[51:24] Speaker 2: anywhere else. But when we came back twenty six days later,
[51:28] Speaker 2: we got stamped back in to Argentina. So the point
[51:32] Speaker 2: of this is, if you're going to the northern tip
[51:36] Speaker 2: of the Palmer Peninsula where we went, where ninety percent
[51:40] Speaker 2: of boat traffic goes from Ushuaia Argentina, you get stamped
[51:46] Speaker 2: out and then stamp back in, but you're for however
[51:48] Speaker 2: long duration of your trip, you're in no man's land,
[51:52] Speaker 2: but not go through the NSA at all. But the
[51:56] Speaker 2: Palmer Peninsula is one of the busiest tourism core if
[52:00] Speaker 2: you want to call it that. Although we hardly saw
[52:03] Speaker 2: any other ships, just once in a while, cruise ship
[52:07] Speaker 2: or one or two other sailboats. We're going down there.
[52:12] Speaker 2: But to go inland is a much different story. So
[52:16] Speaker 2: for people to say, oh, yeah, you can just go anywhere,
[52:19] Speaker 2: well you can to a degree, but again you have
[52:22] Speaker 2: to understand that Antarctica is huge. It's as big as
[52:26] Speaker 2: the Lower forty eight. So it's like saying, oh, yeah, well,
[52:30] Speaker 2: I'll just cross country ski from Nevada to Montana. It's
[52:36] Speaker 2: a lot farther than you think, and so the distances
[52:40] Speaker 2: are vast. You have to bring every ounce of supplies
[52:43] Speaker 2: with you, including fuel, and so it's a logistical challenge
[52:48] Speaker 2: as well as very expensive to do these trips inland.
[52:53] Speaker 2: But I do believe that if we were to do
[52:56] Speaker 2: a tourist route to the Shumaucker Ponds, to the South Pole,
[53:03] Speaker 2: to the Pyramid and Ellsworth Range, which is close to
[53:07] Speaker 2: the Union Glacier, and then back up through pointas Arenas, Chile,
[53:15] Speaker 2: where most of the flight traffic comes from, that we
[53:19] Speaker 2: could probably get permission. But again it's the challenge of
[53:24] Speaker 2: financing and setting a trip up with so much logistics
[53:29] Speaker 2: involved that you need about a year headway. So we're
[53:33] Speaker 2: hoping to get the funding in the next month or two,
[53:37] Speaker 2: and if we do, if BC Cross comes up with it,
[53:40] Speaker 2: then we'll make this documentary and I'll be the lead
[53:43] Speaker 2: on that trip.
[53:44] Speaker 1: Awesome, man, Well, we wish you luck. I hope you
[53:47] Speaker 1: get that funding that you needed. Now you mentioned earlier
[53:51] Speaker 1: things are changing with a new administration. For the last
[53:54] Speaker 1: few minutes so we have How do you feel are
[53:57] Speaker 1: you hopeful? I myself am I'd say extremely cautiously optimistic.
[54:04] Speaker 1: I have no emotional attachment to politics, having a very
[54:08] Speaker 1: long time, so I can step back and see what
[54:11] Speaker 1: is happening, what's being presented, as well as the slide
[54:15] Speaker 1: of hand that is also occurring that most people don't
[54:19] Speaker 1: want to pay attention to because they're excited about everything else.
[54:23] Speaker 1: But like I said, I will gladly accept any of
[54:28] Speaker 1: the beneficial things that come out of this administration, but
[54:33] Speaker 1: I will always have an eye on everything very closely.
[54:37] Speaker 1: How do you feel about it?
[54:41] Speaker 2: I like your way of saying cautiously optimistic. I'm exactly
[54:46] Speaker 2: the same way. What we've seen so far is very
[54:50] Speaker 2: encouraging that they will go into the core of the spending,
[54:55] Speaker 2: the wasteful spending, and then this might be a way
[54:59] Speaker 2: when they get a around to auditating the CIA, for example,
[55:03] Speaker 2: or the NSA to see how much wasteful spending they have.
[55:07] Speaker 2: That could be justification for disbanding these organizations or at
[55:12] Speaker 2: least reforming them in such a way that perhaps this
[55:18] Speaker 2: era of disclosure or transparency will feature into our trip
[55:24] Speaker 2: down to Antarctica. I can just be cautiously optimistic that
[55:29] Speaker 2: we are on the right track. We've never seen anything
[55:32] Speaker 2: quite like this before, so it's very encouraging that we
[55:39] Speaker 2: are on the right path to have this new era
[55:44] Speaker 2: of openness and even disclosure very much in our cross
[55:51] Speaker 2: hairs in the near future. I think in the next
[55:54] Speaker 2: couple of years, even the next couple of months, Chris,
[55:57] Speaker 2: I think are going to be a time of incredible
[56:01] Speaker 2: revelations the likes of which we've never seen on planet
[56:05] Speaker 2: Earth or in the United States ever before.
[56:09] Speaker 1: Well, it is exciting, to say the least, and Brad,
[56:13] Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on and giving us
[56:16] Speaker 1: some sneak peek to this information that you'll put in
[56:20] Speaker 1: your upcoming book. Very excited about that. One more time
[56:23] Speaker 1: before we close out, let everyone know the best way
[56:26] Speaker 1: to find more about you and get your books.
[56:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Brad Olsen dot com you want to find
[56:36] Speaker 2: out more about what I'm up to, including my conference
[56:39] Speaker 2: schedule and CCC Publishing dot com for all my books.
[56:46] Speaker 2: Secrets of Antarctica, which is the name of the book
[56:49] Speaker 2: Untold History under the Ice, will not be out until
[56:53] Speaker 2: the end of the year, although it is now in
[56:58] Speaker 2: my distributors catalog, so it should be appearing on Amazon
[57:03] Speaker 2: within a month or two, and so people would be
[57:06] Speaker 2: able to pre order that book, but right now it's
[57:10] Speaker 2: still in its production phase. So your listeners and viewers
[57:16] Speaker 2: have just gotten a sneak peek that I've never done before,
[57:20] Speaker 2: showing a lot of these images that are going to
[57:23] Speaker 2: be in the book, with some of this information about
[57:27] Speaker 2: the Germans going deep under the ice into the core
[57:31] Speaker 2: of Antarctica to find some advanced civilization down there. So
[57:37] Speaker 2: very exciting news, and I'm really happy that I've had
[57:42] Speaker 2: this opportunity to work with Frank and other people have
[57:46] Speaker 2: come to my aid with this book as well, and
[57:50] Speaker 2: having this opportunity to talk to you, Chris and your
[57:52] Speaker 2: audience and let them know that there is a lot
[57:56] Speaker 2: of stuff that's going to be coming out with Antarctica,
[58:00] Speaker 2: which is my book, but I think in general disclosure
[58:04] Speaker 2: could very well come from what is found under the ice.
[58:08] Speaker 1: In the end, art I love it, man, fantastic information.
[58:11] Speaker 1: Can't wait to hear more, and thank you so much
[58:15] Speaker 1: once again for coming on. We'll definitely do this again
[58:18] Speaker 1: very soon. Until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening
[58:22] Speaker 1: and we will talk again tomorrow. Seel Then, we live
[58:27] Speaker 1: in an incredible age of information. More and more we're
[58:31] Speaker 1: discovering that we've been lied to and misled about.
[58:35] Speaker 2: Much of us.
[58:36] Speaker 1: Today, I want to welcome back to the show, Ryan Burns.
[58:38] Speaker 1: He began researching the Winhaw Basin and the mysterious skin
[58:42] Speaker 1: walkers in the area many years ago. He now owns
[58:46] Speaker 1: property overlooking Skinwalker Ranch. He hosts the popular podcast Hero
[58:51] Speaker 1: Paranormal and has written about his experiences investigating shape shifters,
[58:57] Speaker 1: UFOs and precognitive intelligence. Ryan, welcome back. How you doing.
[59:04] Speaker 3: Doing excellent? Thanks so much for the opportunity to chat
[59:07] Speaker 3: with you.
[59:07] Speaker 1: Yes, man, always love chatting with you. And today I
[59:11] Speaker 1: want to once again explore any recent events, experiments, or
[59:15] Speaker 1: discoveries that may have come out of the Space Wolf
[59:19] Speaker 1: research Hub, and also wanted to discuss some of the
[59:24] Speaker 1: aspects of paranormal and contact experiences that tend to leave
[59:30] Speaker 1: people uncomfortable or even scared, which causes these possibilities to
[59:36] Speaker 1: be discussed much less often. And I've kept a very
[59:40] Speaker 1: open mind when it comes to the spectrum of phenomena
[59:45] Speaker 1: I've discussed here and consider many possibilities that are being presented.
[59:50] Speaker 1: As always, the more I learned, the more questions I have.
[59:54] Speaker 1: But there are some that claim to know more than
[59:56] Speaker 1: others based on their experiences or maybe just ego. Even
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: though I may take these theories with a grain of salt,
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: I do believe everyone has a piece of the puzzle here,
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: but there seems to be too many contradictions and inconsistencies
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: within these individual experiences which tend to set off some
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: red flags for me. The two big questions I'd like
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: to explore today are are we in a way outsourcing
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: our consciousness, our morality, and individuality to non human intelligences
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: by relying on the information received during these contact experiences
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: throughout history by profits and seers or anyone who's had
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: these profound spiritual experiences that people take literally and bake
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: into the culture and history. And the second thing that
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on is there an infringement of
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: free will occurring with these beings or intelligences. Now, this
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: opens up plenty of doors that we can explore. First
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: just fromind the audience where they can find you, and
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself.
[1:01:18] Speaker 3: You bet. My name is Ryan Burns. I can be
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: found weekly at my small podcast, the Hero Paranormal Podcast.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: You can catch that on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Patreon, or
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: just go to hero Paranormal dot com. I'm also involved
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: with space Wolfresearch dot com, which is a base camp
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: in the Unna Basin of Utah that involves itself with
[1:01:52] Speaker 3: a lot of the interesting superliminal entities and intelligences that
[1:02:00] Speaker 3: we may be discussing today. So yeah, I'm findable right on.
[1:02:07] Speaker 1: Well, based on the introduction I gave, there's a lot
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: to get to. But before we get to that, I'd
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: like to get to any updates or research that you've
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: been doing recently, anything interesting that you've come across.
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something interesting I've been working on. I just
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: got back from the basin. We were doing an interesting
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: project up there, but I rushed back. I was working
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: with a number of people who are fairly well known.
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: A lot of them don't want to be mentioned because
[1:02:40] Speaker 3: there will be a project where you will know who
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: they are. And they were delving again into the Las
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: Vegas alien backyard incident, and I'm really glad that they
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: were because there is new information, a lot of new
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: information actually regarding the family, the property. There's a new
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: extended nine one one call a new Yeah, almost nine minutes,
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: I have it if you, Oh, definitely.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: Not for the audience that's not familiar with this incident,
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but we can
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: remind them a little bit about it. I remember a
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: family I believe they were Hispanic, and they reported these
[1:03:28] Speaker 1: beings in their backyard and managed to get a very
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: subpar quality video of the incident, and there were police
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: officers involved. But I don't recall too many details about it.
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: Maybe you could remind everyone about this.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's it's wild. Okay, So there's video, there's the
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: new audio. Before it was like one minute of audio.
[1:03:57] Speaker 3: Now we have over eight minutes of that one audio.
[1:04:01] Speaker 3: A lot of things come to mind, But for those
[1:04:03] Speaker 3: who were unfamiliar with it, there were at least two
[1:04:07] Speaker 3: large beings that were not human utilizing some sort of
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: cloaking technology. That landed in a Las Vegas backyard. This
[1:04:21] Speaker 3: area has a large spot where a craft could land
[1:04:25] Speaker 3: in the backyard. And this is not fake. I know
[1:04:29] Speaker 3: it got a lot of people, as you know, unfortunately
[1:04:34] Speaker 3: in our modern age, people try to jump on the bandwagon,
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: get clicks, get likes, and people were flooding the internet
[1:04:41] Speaker 3: with fake footage, fake video CGI. But the reality is
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: the Las Vegas family that claims they saw these things
[1:04:48] Speaker 3: in their backyard, in my opinion, one hundred percent did.
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent a real case and possibly one
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: of the most important of the century.
[1:04:57] Speaker 4: Wow.
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: Right on he said, there was a new release of
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: the nine to one one call with a lot longer conversation.
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: What information came out of that.
[1:05:08] Speaker 3: It is so a lot. What's interesting is for those
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: that are really deeply investigating the case. I was one
[1:05:15] Speaker 3: of those boots on the ground at the house when
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: it happened, and there's a lot of red flags to
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: this case, and it falls right into you know what
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: we're discussing. You know, how we are outsourcing our energy,
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: our knowledge to entities that seem somewhat arconic at times,
[1:05:36] Speaker 3: and they're not always Teletubbies or unicorns and rainbows. This
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: case is an excellent example of that. And another excellent
[1:05:46] Speaker 3: example is that Ryan and Chris Bledsoe recently recorded a
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: podcast with Sean Ryan, and I've talked to Ryan about it.
[1:05:55] Speaker 3: We're friends, and you know, he was bummed that Sean
[1:05:58] Speaker 3: Ryan decided to not broadcast really this podcast because a
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: lot of people were looking forward to it. But their
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: experiences have been all positive, you know, so they believe
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: that these are all angels. For lack of a better word.
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: What's interesting about the word angel is when you do,
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: like the really deep dive into theology, you realize that
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: angel isn't a thing, it's actually a verb and it
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: means messenger. And there again are messengers from across the chessboard.
[1:06:39] Speaker 3: And yeah, it's very likely that their family, in my opinion,
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: I believe one hundred percent everything they say, are engaging
[1:06:46] Speaker 3: with these positive entities or what they deem to be
[1:06:50] Speaker 3: positive entities. But other families, like the ken Moore family,
[1:06:55] Speaker 3: which it's very likely the Las Vegas family who had
[1:06:59] Speaker 3: the incident in their back yard, Uh, they're dealing with
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: something that, even by their own estimations, is nothing more
[1:07:06] Speaker 3: than hideous and demonic but yeah, I could play the
[1:07:09] Speaker 3: audio for you to hear it. Let me pull it up.
[1:07:14] Speaker 3: It'll just take it. I don't even think I heard the.
[1:07:18] Speaker 1: Call.
[1:07:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the full Las Vegas Alien nine one
[1:07:22] Speaker 3: one call and it's up now.
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: Awesome zero twenty seven and zero one seconds.
[1:07:33] Speaker 5: On one emergency Hernberger one nine four five two Do
[1:07:36] Speaker 5: you please fire or medical?
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: Me?
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: My dad and my brother were working in a by
[1:07:44] Speaker 5: fire or medical?
[1:07:46] Speaker 6: Well, I think any police, because I am police. Okay,
[1:07:54] Speaker 6: I'm before, I know, I know what your time.
[1:07:57] Speaker 5: It's got a way to know where we're going before
[1:08:00] Speaker 5: anything else.
[1:08:01] Speaker 6: Okay, police, just police matter, there's police matter address.
[1:08:10] Speaker 5: Okay, what's going on over there?
[1:08:12] Speaker 6: Okay, lady, Me, my dad and my brother. We're working
[1:08:15] Speaker 6: at a truck in our bright yards and we have
[1:08:17] Speaker 6: a big lock outside right correct, Okay, we're working and
[1:08:21] Speaker 6: we just see in a corner eye some people pulled
[1:08:23] Speaker 6: up from the sky and there was wood lights and
[1:08:26] Speaker 6: when I hit down, it was like a big impact,
[1:08:27] Speaker 6: and we like the energy and then and then and
[1:08:32] Speaker 6: then we hear like a lot of food that's near us.
[1:08:36] Speaker 6: And then we'd have a big a big equipment and
[1:08:39] Speaker 6: and we see and there's a there's like an a
[1:08:41] Speaker 6: fool person beside it and another one's decide and it
[1:08:44] Speaker 6: has big eyes that's looking at us and.
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: It's the.
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: Okay, where is this on your property?
[1:08:51] Speaker 7: Uh?
[1:08:52] Speaker 6: In my back yard?
[1:08:54] Speaker 2: And I forty god, this is not a joke.
[1:08:55] Speaker 4: This is actually wei with the other two.
[1:08:58] Speaker 5: People or two jack battery in your backyard.
[1:09:02] Speaker 2: Correct. And they're very large.
[1:09:05] Speaker 6: They're like ninety they're they're like they are like aliens,
[1:09:09] Speaker 6: twelve big eyes that have big eyes, like like I
[1:09:14] Speaker 6: can't explain it and bake about there are tiny eyes
[1:09:18] Speaker 6: and and they're not even the one hundred percent that
[1:09:21] Speaker 6: aren't even okay. I don't know if okay started for you.
[1:09:30] Speaker 5: Okay, So how long does this happen?
[1:09:34] Speaker 6: I'm looking in it right now, like when the impact
[1:09:37] Speaker 6: when I felt something came out? How long like ten
[1:09:40] Speaker 6: minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, and we were just checking
[1:09:43] Speaker 6: that we're we're you could feel like a weird energy
[1:09:45] Speaker 6: and then you could say something like you could say something,
[1:09:48] Speaker 6: but one hundred percent, there's like one or two and
[1:09:50] Speaker 6: a big pot happen. They're very largely they're like nine
[1:09:53] Speaker 6: food talk.
[1:09:55] Speaker 2: Okay, this is not a joke.
[1:10:02] Speaker 6: I know I don't want to wait to that time,
[1:10:03] Speaker 6: and I was probably more emergency.
[1:10:04] Speaker 5: But this is scary, okay today, if you're an influence
[1:10:08] Speaker 5: of dructor alcohol, you don't know.
[1:10:10] Speaker 6: No, no, no, I don't dream.
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: I may seen.
[1:10:15] Speaker 4: I don't dream. Yeah, hello, yes, hello, I mean the.
[1:10:25] Speaker 5: People, the things they you're under the influence of dructor
[1:10:29] Speaker 5: of alcohol or you don't know.
[1:10:30] Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.
[1:10:31] Speaker 6: They have any weapons. No, they don't even have weapons.
[1:10:37] Speaker 6: But they're very tall humans.
[1:10:40] Speaker 5: I already have I already have a cause.
[1:10:43] Speaker 3: I'm okay.
[1:10:43] Speaker 6: My quest is not going any kind of help. Okay,
[1:10:47] Speaker 6: so what if they look like Okay, they're like a
[1:10:51] Speaker 6: neon colored light, like their eyes look like neon, like
[1:10:54] Speaker 6: you can see very fire from very far away. They're
[1:10:57] Speaker 6: about ten eleven foot tall, and they're like they're they're
[1:11:01] Speaker 6: full of them, and they're like a greenish tine colored.
[1:11:06] Speaker 4: Bird.
[1:11:07] Speaker 6: Okay, we're working at the tuck. We see something call
[1:11:10] Speaker 6: from the sky in the backyard.
[1:11:12] Speaker 5: Okay, so hang on, so it's greater chance color dies.
[1:11:15] Speaker 5: Can you tell me anything else about it in case.
[1:11:17] Speaker 3: They take off.
[1:11:19] Speaker 4: They're they're tall, they're they're they're very large, and they're
[1:11:25] Speaker 4: very like big blunkers.
[1:11:27] Speaker 6: And that makes sense.
[1:11:29] Speaker 4: They're only billions.
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: Pretend I know not.
[1:11:33] Speaker 5: Okay, well, can you tell me anything else?
[1:11:36] Speaker 4: They're naked, No, they're not, they're not.
[1:11:38] Speaker 6: You can just give me training.
[1:11:40] Speaker 8: Okay, they're naked, naked, and your brother and your daughter
[1:11:44] Speaker 8: are still there. They're right your next Okay, can I
[1:11:47] Speaker 8: speak to one of them both?
[1:11:55] Speaker 5: Do you still see them outside?
[1:11:57] Speaker 6: Well?
[1:11:58] Speaker 4: You know, well I'm skill.
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: Uh.
[1:12:00] Speaker 4: I don't want to go all the way there because
[1:12:02] Speaker 4: I have the heavy agreement and my father.
[1:12:08] Speaker 7: Okay, that's mm hmmm. Twenty minutes okay, eighteen minutes on the.
[1:12:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like me.
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: We're very tall.
[1:12:24] Speaker 4: That's about living, living food tall. Well, I have a
[1:12:28] Speaker 4: couple of treasures in the fac they're very tall. There
[1:12:30] Speaker 4: was like install the I have heavy opinions, so.
[1:12:36] Speaker 5: To lock all the doors inside? Okay, are all the
[1:12:42] Speaker 5: doors locks right now?
[1:12:43] Speaker 7: Well?
[1:12:44] Speaker 3: We all side doors?
[1:12:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, but we all start able to go.
[1:12:48] Speaker 5: Inside and lock the doors. I don't want you to
[1:12:50] Speaker 5: put yourself in danger in.
[1:12:51] Speaker 8: Case they haven't an.
[1:12:54] Speaker 4: Okay, come on, come on.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: Without life.
[1:13:01] Speaker 4: It was like a lot of color lights and then
[1:13:04] Speaker 4: a lot of color lights disappeared.
[1:13:06] Speaker 5: Yeah, are you able to give me any other descriptions
[1:13:08] Speaker 5: other than that there is very tall, muscular, green, chance
[1:13:12] Speaker 5: colored skin.
[1:13:14] Speaker 4: Can you tell me about No, I he didn't walk well,
[1:13:19] Speaker 4: they walk up like I haven't nay previous They're like
[1:13:22] Speaker 4: him right there. I don't know so I can see
[1:13:25] Speaker 4: it's no, it's not closer than No.
[1:13:27] Speaker 5: It was like, oh, like, could you tell they had
[1:13:30] Speaker 5: any weapons?
[1:13:31] Speaker 4: Or no? No?
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: No, I don't see nothing, no other All right, I did.
[1:13:36] Speaker 6: That was the best. Actually, when I got back there,
[1:13:38] Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
[1:13:39] Speaker 2: When I went back there, I was.
[1:13:40] Speaker 4: I was walking back to my house, to my jo
[1:13:43] Speaker 4: to my door house and I couldn't I put it
[1:13:46] Speaker 4: the energy. I couldn't walk some more. So that was
[1:13:49] Speaker 4: that was saying.
[1:13:49] Speaker 5: That we are what is your person last name?
[1:13:52] Speaker 4: Maybe can Moore so for me? And or I so good?
[1:14:03] Speaker 5: But I can tell it one more time?
[1:14:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, eat eat and or are ea?
[1:14:13] Speaker 5: Okay?
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: You?
[1:14:15] Speaker 4: Why how many people are there with your my book,
[1:14:19] Speaker 4: cakes and my wife?
[1:14:20] Speaker 6: I mean four people? Okay?
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: Right?
[1:14:26] Speaker 5: Is anybody in the house of the influence of dructor alcohol?
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Oh?
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: No, okay?
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: Any weapon?
[1:14:34] Speaker 6: Guse me?
[1:14:35] Speaker 4: All was that?
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: Ecuse me? I have my my weapon.
[1:14:38] Speaker 4: What kind of weapon do you have my marriages. Where
[1:14:42] Speaker 4: is it that I'll think, kiddy?
[1:14:44] Speaker 5: Okay, so it's on your wife right now?
[1:14:47] Speaker 6: Yes, okay, all right, you can.
[1:14:52] Speaker 5: You can have it for safety right now. Okay, But
[1:14:54] Speaker 5: when the officers come and approach your house, they're going
[1:14:56] Speaker 5: to knock on your door, and I need that gun
[1:14:58] Speaker 5: to be secured. I need that to be up. We're
[1:15:00] Speaker 5: other than on your person, okay, And I need you
[1:15:03] Speaker 5: to come outside with your with your with your hands
[1:15:06] Speaker 5: up and they consider something in your hands. Okay, but
[1:15:08] Speaker 5: for right now, you can hang on to it while
[1:15:10] Speaker 5: while it's safe to do so, okay.
[1:15:12] Speaker 8: But nobody said the influence of drug your alcohol?
[1:15:19] Speaker 3: Okay, So the other stuff's not too important, but you
[1:15:22] Speaker 3: get the idea. And it's hilarious how many times they ask,
[1:15:27] Speaker 3: you know, is anybody under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
[1:15:30] Speaker 1: I liked how she asked if the aliens were under
[1:15:32] Speaker 1: the influence.
[1:15:34] Speaker 3: Even the aliens, we need to get a dui out
[1:15:37] Speaker 3: of this or whatever, you know, for these spacecraft, I'm sure, Well,
[1:15:42] Speaker 3: who knows, Maybe in our lifetime we'll see that happen.
[1:15:45] Speaker 3: But you know, the point is that it seemed very
[1:15:48] Speaker 3: real and a lot of people have been questioning the
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: fear involved and the video has also been gone through again,
[1:15:56] Speaker 3: and this time it was a court expert in video
[1:16:01] Speaker 3: footage on a criminal basis that went through it, and
[1:16:06] Speaker 3: even he says that these entities that are seen, you know,
[1:16:09] Speaker 3: and people keep saying, but they're blurry, and even he says, well,
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: the reason they're blurry is when he looked at the
[1:16:15] Speaker 3: metadata from the original phones, he realized something fascinating and
[1:16:20] Speaker 3: that is that there is, in fact, in his opinion,
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: cloaking control technologies being utilized. So anyway, pretty wild, but yeah,
[1:16:32] Speaker 3: a good point. And you know, this comes back to
[1:16:34] Speaker 3: the fact that, yes, these entities are able to do
[1:16:40] Speaker 3: things that seem, in our opinion, the tech viability seems impossible. Right,
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: These are things that are impossible without exotic materials. But again,
[1:16:50] Speaker 3: we have relatively low technology compared to what we're dealing
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: with in some cases, and it's surprising that people are
[1:16:57] Speaker 3: still unwilling to look at these cases. And right after
[1:17:01] Speaker 3: this case, shortly after it, we had kind of a
[1:17:04] Speaker 3: I guess what they used to call like in the
[1:17:06] Speaker 3: seventies of flap because shortly after this case we had
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: very similar entities seen in the Alto Nanai of Peru,
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: where it was these entities were terrorizing villagers, and you
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: know it, these places are separated by a great distance,
[1:17:26] Speaker 3: so I don't know. I think there's positive and there's negative,
[1:17:29] Speaker 3: and probably everything in the middle as well.
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: That is fascinating. Was there any before we move on
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: from that case, was there any other information that came
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: out of that, any recent updates?
[1:17:42] Speaker 3: Yeah. The other stuff that's really interesting is I've come across,
[1:17:47] Speaker 3: through some of my sources, proof that higher ups were
[1:17:54] Speaker 3: familiar of it, that it did take place, that this
[1:17:58] Speaker 3: was being triangulated by radar. Are also very interesting things
[1:18:04] Speaker 3: that were not followed as far as protocols, both by
[1:18:11] Speaker 3: where do we go here somewhat federal agencies. There was
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: an opportunity that a trainer to the head of Homeland
[1:18:24] Speaker 3: Security in Nevada was shocked at how protocols were violated
[1:18:29] Speaker 3: putting cameras up all over the house allegedly for the
[1:18:32] Speaker 3: family's own protection. And there's there's a number of other things,
[1:18:37] Speaker 3: but basically it's one of these cases where the powers
[1:18:42] Speaker 3: that be come in and they just do as they please,
[1:18:46] Speaker 3: and all the data goes in, none of the data
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: comes out, and as we delve into it, there's a
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: number of reasons why that took place, which may or
[1:18:57] Speaker 3: may not come out in the mainstream shortly. But I
[1:18:59] Speaker 3: don't want to mess because there's a potential video production
[1:19:05] Speaker 3: of it coming out and I don't want to mess
[1:19:07] Speaker 3: out on it.
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: Well, let's dive a little deeper into the possibility that
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: we are outsourcing much of what we are as humans
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: to these intelligences, including our morality, possibly since the beginning
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: of documented human history and before. When you look at
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: the formation of our major religions, they are based on
[1:19:30] Speaker 1: these supernatural contact experiences. And if you look at the
[1:19:35] Speaker 1: Old Testament, the entity dictating these rules and information seems
[1:19:45] Speaker 1: to be a very malevolent, jealous asshole. So that's just
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: based off of observation and everything. That then completely switches
[1:19:59] Speaker 1: in the New Testament, which seems like a complete contradiction.
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: But it is very interesting how many of our beliefs
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: stem from these supernatural types of experiences. And look at
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: where we're at now. Look at what has come out
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: of most of these belief systems is greed, power and
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: ongoing wars.
[1:20:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always been. You know, my God is stronger
[1:20:30] Speaker 3: than your God scenario and ancient times are no different,
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: no matter how far back we seem to go without
[1:20:39] Speaker 3: delving into the different various occult and mystical traditions claiming
[1:20:44] Speaker 3: these different entities, these non human intelligences, because that's what
[1:20:47] Speaker 3: they are, as symbols of synthesis, balance and you know,
[1:20:51] Speaker 3: relying upon them and also going into the teachings of them.
[1:20:58] Speaker 3: While there are some outliers like the Gnostics, who maintain
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: that some of these deities are in fact not what
[1:21:05] Speaker 3: they appear to be, right, they are messengers of deception,
[1:21:09] Speaker 3: and I think that's a really important thing to keep
[1:21:12] Speaker 3: in your back pocket because if these things are able
[1:21:15] Speaker 3: to cloak themselves, as we have the example in the
[1:21:19] Speaker 3: Las Vegas backyard incident, and we've run into that in
[1:21:22] Speaker 3: the un of Basin as well, if they're able to
[1:21:25] Speaker 3: represent themselves as something they are not, that's something to
[1:21:29] Speaker 3: be very wary of. And it's also important to note
[1:21:32] Speaker 3: that there is a syndrome that takes place when people
[1:21:36] Speaker 3: are in close proximity to either their technology or the
[1:21:40] Speaker 3: actual precognitive intelligence itself. It seems sentient, but the problem
[1:21:46] Speaker 3: and drawback from that is there's a massive government study
[1:21:51] Speaker 3: going into what they now call, oh, let's see what
[1:21:55] Speaker 3: is it called it. It used to be called UFO
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: syndrome back in like the seventies and eighties. Now they
[1:22:01] Speaker 3: call it interference syndrome. So they're always changing the names
[1:22:04] Speaker 3: of these things. But basically what they're finding is people's
[1:22:07] Speaker 3: brains are actually affected, re arranged. In many cases, they evaporate.
[1:22:13] Speaker 3: They're left like Swiss cheese when they're in close proximity
[1:22:16] Speaker 3: to some of this high strangeness, some of these interesting
[1:22:19] Speaker 3: exotic propulsion systems in the case of whatever these chariots
[1:22:24] Speaker 3: they ride in or whatever they are. But interference syndrome
[1:22:29] Speaker 3: is very unique because the people tend to have these
[1:22:33] Speaker 3: downloads and they're able to function at very high levels.
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: Their IQs in some cases go up, they come up
[1:22:40] Speaker 3: with great ideas, they get all these downloads from these entities,
[1:22:44] Speaker 3: but at the same time, afterwards they're left kind of spent.
[1:22:47] Speaker 3: They have brains that look like Swiss cheese. And insurance
[1:22:51] Speaker 3: companies have had to come up with these ICD ten
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: codes so that these in many cases government employees can
[1:22:58] Speaker 3: be treated for these on the job strange medical events.
[1:23:06] Speaker 3: And the CIA doctor Kit Green had a bunch of
[1:23:12] Speaker 3: slides released from his desk that showed some of the damage.
[1:23:16] Speaker 3: And you know, we have older security guards at Skinwalker
[1:23:20] Speaker 3: Ranch who were having these very same scans done on
[1:23:23] Speaker 3: their brain because they're in close proximity to high strangeness,
[1:23:27] Speaker 3: and it just goes down a very creepy rabbit hole
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: that biblically we see it too. You know, anytime people
[1:23:33] Speaker 3: were close to the arc of the Covenant, they ended
[1:23:36] Speaker 3: up with these very similar aspects, these medical conditions, these
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: these debilitating scenarios, and it doesn't look like much has changed, right.
[1:23:46] Speaker 1: Well, you also do have the complete opposite spectrum where
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: people are healed, where they are able to maintain cognitive
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: ability and the knowledge that they received from these interactions.
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: I have had very positive interactions in this way, as
[1:24:05] Speaker 1: have many that I have spoken with and know in
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: my personal life. But there does seem to be two
[1:24:12] Speaker 1: very distinct sides to this. I believe there is a
[1:24:15] Speaker 1: very benevolent positive side, but it's not intrusive. It doesn't
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: seem to infringe on anything, and it only seems to
[1:24:22] Speaker 1: present itself when you ask for these types of interactions,
[1:24:27] Speaker 1: are or seeking them, and you have a certain perception
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: of the world, your heart's in a certain place, your
[1:24:34] Speaker 1: mind and emotional state is in the right place to
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: receive these positive experiences. But then on the other side,
[1:24:43] Speaker 1: they have the trickster experiences as I call them, where
[1:24:47] Speaker 1: these beings present themselves as something very positive, but they
[1:24:51] Speaker 1: seem to play on the ego. They seem to be
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: presenting rewards of a material nat at times and information
[1:25:02] Speaker 1: that doesn't really seem to benefit the individual. And for me,
[1:25:05] Speaker 1: that is one of the first red flags that maybe
[1:25:09] Speaker 1: you might not be interacting with something that has your
[1:25:12] Speaker 1: best interest in mind.
[1:25:15] Speaker 3: Such a great point, and you know, even even Biblical
[1:25:21] Speaker 3: scholars have looked at this and kind of changed their
[1:25:26] Speaker 3: opinions of a lot of cases that are seen in
[1:25:29] Speaker 3: many of the ancient texts. And uh. One example is
[1:25:35] Speaker 3: in the Bible, Abraham was allegedly believed to have been
[1:25:40] Speaker 3: commanded by God to sacrifice his son Isaac, but at
[1:25:44] Speaker 3: the last minute he was stopped by an angel and
[1:25:47] Speaker 3: you know, basically said hey, hey, hey, wait a minute
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: before you complete this. Now I know you fear God,
[1:25:53] Speaker 3: don't do this. You know this is don't do this.
[1:25:57] Speaker 3: And some scholars have totally changed their angle of perception
[1:26:02] Speaker 3: on this and believe that it may have been one
[1:26:05] Speaker 3: of these tricksters pretending to be someone else, asking Abraham
[1:26:11] Speaker 3: to offer his son as a sacrifice, and then at
[1:26:15] Speaker 3: the last minute, sort of in a first responder way,
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: you know, this angel or messenger of the Lord stops
[1:26:21] Speaker 3: in and like is like, whoa easy tap the brakes,
[1:26:25] Speaker 3: and we see this even in modern times. A US
[1:26:30] Speaker 3: Air Force veteran Jake Barber claims he witnessed an alien
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: non human egg shaped aircraft or UFO while he was
[1:26:40] Speaker 3: working for a secret government UFO retrieval program. And he
[1:26:45] Speaker 3: says that, well, he dropped a bomb. First of all,
[1:26:49] Speaker 3: he dropped a bomb using the word psionics, which is
[1:26:52] Speaker 3: what you more or less mentioned. That people are able
[1:26:55] Speaker 3: to connect with these things telepathically, almost all them in
[1:27:00] Speaker 3: so to speak. And what's funny about this is the
[1:27:04] Speaker 3: government has said for years, oh no, we don't do
[1:27:06] Speaker 3: remote viewing really anymore. We don't do the ESP stuff,
[1:27:10] Speaker 3: we don't do the telepathy. But that's only because they've
[1:27:14] Speaker 3: changed the name of what's being done from ESP to
[1:27:19] Speaker 3: telepathy to remote viewing and now it's psionics. It's probably
[1:27:23] Speaker 3: going to be something else very soon. Still extraordinary and
[1:27:27] Speaker 3: anomaloust and something that they're funding to the fullest extent
[1:27:31] Speaker 3: they can. But the bottom line is Barber says that
[1:27:35] Speaker 3: what he encountered was not human. He felt the communication
[1:27:39] Speaker 3: with this thing, and he hasn't been the same since
[1:27:42] Speaker 3: he believed it was of alien origin. And with these,
[1:27:48] Speaker 3: with these interesting scenarios like the egg, it sent me
[1:27:52] Speaker 3: down a number of strange rabbit holes where free will
[1:27:56] Speaker 3: being infringed upon our reality are base reality being what
[1:28:01] Speaker 3: it appears to be, all of these things are no
[1:28:03] Speaker 3: longer seamless, and we're seeing glitches in the matrix hundred percent.
[1:28:07] Speaker 1: And since you mentioned free will being infringed upon, I
[1:28:12] Speaker 1: have to look at how much this intelligence has not
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: only influenced our theological beliefs, but our government control systems,
[1:28:23] Speaker 1: our morality, every movement that we have. Even if you
[1:28:27] Speaker 1: fast forward to what we're doing now, the UFO community
[1:28:31] Speaker 1: seems to have a level of infiltration behind it, and
[1:28:35] Speaker 1: it reminds me of some sort of parasite that is
[1:28:39] Speaker 1: able to influence our consciousness, and once it gets in there,
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: it continues to spread and further control and take over
[1:28:48] Speaker 1: our minds. In a sense, if you look at the
[1:28:52] Speaker 1: abduction phenomena as a whole. Most of these encounters seem
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: to be infringing on people's free wills. They're taken against
[1:29:02] Speaker 1: their will. They can't move, they can't fight, they can't
[1:29:06] Speaker 1: defend themselves, and they're being experimented on. So it does
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: seem to be a definite infringement in many ways.
[1:29:17] Speaker 3: I think it is, and it is one of these
[1:29:21] Speaker 3: things a lot like what the government does, and that's
[1:29:25] Speaker 3: changing names. I think that these entities whatever you want
[1:29:30] Speaker 3: to call them. You can call them angels, you can
[1:29:32] Speaker 3: call them demons, precognitive sentient intelligence, non human intelligence. The
[1:29:39] Speaker 3: list goes on and on, but the bottom line is
[1:29:42] Speaker 3: these deities, these non human presences, have been relied upon
[1:29:48] Speaker 3: in the past, worshiped in the past, and they've completely
[1:29:55] Speaker 3: changed our reality. And what I mean by that is
[1:30:00] Speaker 3: they've given us these tidbits. Right. A good example was
[1:30:06] Speaker 3: the Arc of the Covenant. We don't exactly know what
[1:30:09] Speaker 3: it was. Things like the Holy Grail, we don't exactly
[1:30:12] Speaker 3: know what it was. We have a good idea, but
[1:30:15] Speaker 3: we have some cases where we do know what it is,
[1:30:18] Speaker 3: like fractional reserve banking, and we have this coming out
[1:30:22] Speaker 3: of a deity where literal monks, warrior monks known as
[1:30:27] Speaker 3: the Knights Templar, seem to have worshiped this heidden non
[1:30:34] Speaker 3: human intelligence that went by the name or what they
[1:30:39] Speaker 3: called Baphomet, and the description changes. You know, it either
[1:30:44] Speaker 3: was a severed head of John the Baptist, a cat
[1:30:47] Speaker 3: ahead with three faces. There's a number of different descriptions,
[1:30:51] Speaker 3: but this is usually the case with these entities. They
[1:30:54] Speaker 3: don't you know, they are in many cases messengers of deception.
[1:30:58] Speaker 3: But with the case of fractional resis banking, this totally
[1:31:02] Speaker 3: changed the history of the planet and turned it into
[1:31:04] Speaker 3: more or less a prison planet of debt, all because
[1:31:08] Speaker 3: this entity possessed this little technology, let's call it this
[1:31:13] Speaker 3: math equation, that it was able to pass along to
[1:31:17] Speaker 3: the Templars and let them use for their own benefit.
[1:31:20] Speaker 3: And we run into that today with things like dare
[1:31:23] Speaker 3: I say AI. You know, there's a reason why Jordi
[1:31:27] Speaker 3: Rose says, you know, he's the founder of basically quantum
[1:31:31] Speaker 3: computing and d wave and that incorporates AI. And when
[1:31:35] Speaker 3: he says he stands before this computing, he says, it's
[1:31:39] Speaker 3: like standing before the altar of an alien god. And
[1:31:43] Speaker 3: I think there's a reason for them.
[1:31:46] Speaker 1: When we're looking at the intelligences and the interactions that
[1:31:52] Speaker 1: we have, whether they're positive or negative. The only supernatural
[1:31:58] Speaker 1: are a sended master type being that I would ever
[1:32:03] Speaker 1: put any faith into is Jesus Christ. And that is
[1:32:07] Speaker 1: because of my own personal experiences and many others that
[1:32:13] Speaker 1: have had very horrifying negative encounters and utilize the name
[1:32:19] Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ to fend off these entities. And it
[1:32:22] Speaker 1: seems to be not only a powerful deterrent, but there
[1:32:28] Speaker 1: seems to be something very powerful behind the whole story
[1:32:34] Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ what he represents. And to get pretty controversial,
[1:32:40] Speaker 1: I don't even think the teachings of Jesus Christ should
[1:32:43] Speaker 1: be included in the Bible. I think it's something completely separate.
[1:32:47] Speaker 1: I think that once again, his teachings were something that
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: was twisted and used for power and included with all
[1:32:56] Speaker 1: these Abrahamic religions to lessen the power of it, to
[1:33:01] Speaker 1: lessen its influence. In a sense, because I do believe
[1:33:05] Speaker 1: that the teachings of Jesus are the one true spiritual path,
[1:33:11] Speaker 1: it's the easiest to understand if we look at all
[1:33:14] Speaker 1: these other Abrahamic belief systems and religions. It's so convoluted,
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: and you have these contradictions, you have very dark and
[1:33:26] Speaker 1: malevolent actions being imposed upon people. But you separate the
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: teachings of Jesus Christ from all that, and it's completely
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: different from all of these old religious belief systems, and
[1:33:40] Speaker 1: it's just based on love. It's based on love thy neighbor,
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: which is the most important teaching of all. So I
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: do believe that the name of Jesus Christ holds extremely
[1:33:52] Speaker 1: powerful energy and can be relied upon when you're talking
[1:33:57] Speaker 1: about these spiritual encounters.
[1:34:03] Speaker 3: One hundred percent man. And you know, it really sucks
[1:34:06] Speaker 3: because when I was younger, I think we're all brought
[1:34:09] Speaker 3: up a little bit with religion. And when I was younger,
[1:34:12] Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, I don't want to hear it. I
[1:34:13] Speaker 3: don't want to hear you know that word. It's always
[1:34:15] Speaker 3: Jesus and the Bible and all this stuff. But the
[1:34:18] Speaker 3: reality is, when you're playing the long game and researching
[1:34:22] Speaker 3: this for decades, you start to realize the proof is
[1:34:27] Speaker 3: in the pudding, and there is tons of evidence historical, written, verbal, experiential,
[1:34:38] Speaker 3: tons of evidence that what you said is one hundred
[1:34:41] Speaker 3: percent true, and even with the case of Jake Barber
[1:34:45] Speaker 3: in this recent craft. You know, in the shape of
[1:34:47] Speaker 3: an egg. When you think of Easter, you think of egg,
[1:34:49] Speaker 3: you think of rebirth. You think there's a whole bunch
[1:34:51] Speaker 3: of egg symbolism I could go into. But you know,
[1:34:54] Speaker 3: whether it's Ezekiel's wheel of fire in the Bible or
[1:34:58] Speaker 3: a star appearing over Bethlehem when Jesus was born, well,
[1:35:02] Speaker 3: stars don't just appear, you know, motherships do. And you know,
[1:35:07] Speaker 3: as Tom DeLong has said in the past, and he's
[1:35:11] Speaker 3: kind of crass, you know, he said that praying to
[1:35:13] Speaker 3: Jesus during an alien abduction, according to everybody that he
[1:35:17] Speaker 3: had on his payroll, will make those aliens f off.
[1:35:22] Speaker 3: That's pretty strange, you know. And and this is a
[1:35:25] Speaker 3: guy that's not trying to you know, get first prize
[1:35:30] Speaker 3: or be Golden Boy in his Sunday School. And even
[1:35:33] Speaker 3: Tom DeLong admits that, yes, without a shadow of a doubt,
[1:35:36] Speaker 3: there is something to this. So we have scientists, whistleblowers
[1:35:42] Speaker 3: at Area fifty one claiming that according to them, this
[1:35:47] Speaker 3: entity comes up time and time again, even when they
[1:35:52] Speaker 3: are allegedly discussing things with these quote unquote non human intelligences.
[1:35:57] Speaker 3: And what's funny about that is, even prior to Jesus
[1:36:01] Speaker 3: even showing up on the historical record, we have King
[1:36:05] Speaker 3: Solomon doing the most amazing witchcraft or sorcery for lack
[1:36:11] Speaker 3: of a better word, with the right things in mind.
[1:36:14] Speaker 3: And when you go through Solomon's Testament, the Greater and
[1:36:18] Speaker 3: Lesser Keys, he describes this in extreme detail. You know,
[1:36:23] Speaker 3: he asked God for knowledge, and with that knowledge he
[1:36:26] Speaker 3: would call in much like psionics, but with a little
[1:36:30] Speaker 3: bit of alchemy, these different non human intelligences seventy two principalities.
[1:36:35] Speaker 3: We're talking the gamut, and he's calling in these demons
[1:36:39] Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, in many cases, even
[1:36:42] Speaker 3: all the way up to the biggest one of them
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: all and all of them, and he's writing down, you know,
[1:36:48] Speaker 3: what makes them tick, what they like, what they don't like,
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: what he can do to call them back, what he
[1:36:53] Speaker 3: can do to keep them locked up, to chain them,
[1:36:55] Speaker 3: much like a gin, all in a very detailed account.
[1:37:00] Speaker 3: And what they all agreed upon is that they were
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: all fearful of this entity that was going to come
[1:37:06] Speaker 3: into this reality known as Immanuel. And they called the
[1:37:10] Speaker 3: number sixty four four of course, the numerology gets me
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: because we all know about six sixty six, but we
[1:37:17] Speaker 3: don't hear about six four four very often. And it
[1:37:21] Speaker 3: turns out that, yeah, it is something that they even
[1:37:24] Speaker 3: knew about before he showed up.
[1:37:28] Speaker 1: I guess. So when we look at the UFO community
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: as it is now and the encounters that people are having,
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: especially people that now are in the forefront and got
[1:37:47] Speaker 1: there very quickly, they're presenting information to large groups of
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: people now and they're being propped up, and they're also
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: in the mix with former intelligence in military and they're
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: all telling us now that UFOs are real. There seems
[1:38:06] Speaker 1: to be different narratives though. There seems to be what
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: is coming out of our government and the media, which
[1:38:16] Speaker 1: is posing it as an unsure threat. But there is
[1:38:22] Speaker 1: the threat narrative there, and then we have the love
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: and light UFO community, which has been in my opinion,
[1:38:32] Speaker 1: almost completely infiltrated and the information coming out there. The
[1:38:37] Speaker 1: messages have become convoluted, more convoluted than they were before.
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: And there seems to be this UFO narrative that is
[1:38:47] Speaker 1: attempting to steer the consciousness of the people in a
[1:38:50] Speaker 1: certain direction. But the one consistent factor is that aliens
[1:38:57] Speaker 1: are now real and it's becoming more widely accepted. What
[1:39:02] Speaker 1: are your thoughts on all this and where we're going
[1:39:04] Speaker 1: with this?
[1:39:06] Speaker 3: Man, you are summarizing it so well because this this,
[1:39:10] Speaker 3: this is a great summary. There is, for lack of
[1:39:14] Speaker 3: a better word, as you said, these love and light,
[1:39:17] Speaker 3: let's call them false prophets. In some cases they are
[1:39:23] Speaker 3: seeming to be some of the biggest grifters of them
[1:39:26] Speaker 3: all in society, and not to mention, also in government.
[1:39:31] Speaker 3: But what we're finding is a lot of strange rabbit
[1:39:36] Speaker 3: holes that cannot be covered up. These results are permanent,
[1:39:42] Speaker 3: a lot of them are ancient. And you know, I
[1:39:45] Speaker 3: even came across an amazing due to the Jake Barber
[1:39:49] Speaker 3: egg and that strange craft. Asking different sources if they've
[1:39:54] Speaker 3: encountered anything like that, I came across one extremely good
[1:39:58] Speaker 3: source who would interview somebody at a government facility that
[1:40:03] Speaker 3: said that they worked on mathematics, physics, and time travel
[1:40:08] Speaker 3: that had to do with a reverse engineer at a
[1:40:12] Speaker 3: craft that was exactly the dimensions of this one, and
[1:40:16] Speaker 3: so that these eggs were technically used for time travel.
[1:40:19] Speaker 3: That sent me down a rabbit hole and into a
[1:40:23] Speaker 3: particular gentleman known as doctor David Lewis Anderson. Now, what's
[1:40:28] Speaker 3: really interesting about this is doctor David Lewis Anderson did
[1:40:35] Speaker 3: a podcast radio show. I guess it was back then.
[1:40:39] Speaker 3: Podcasts didn't even exist with Art Bell on Coast to Coast.
[1:40:43] Speaker 3: This is how long ago this happened. And this guy
[1:40:47] Speaker 3: back then was able to slow down and speed up
[1:40:52] Speaker 3: time within a little area the size of a soccer
[1:40:56] Speaker 3: ball with his technology, and he was fully funded by
[1:41:00] Speaker 3: the medical community because he was using that little area
[1:41:04] Speaker 3: to slow down time for Yeah, it's crazy, man, I'll
[1:41:09] Speaker 3: send you the link. It blew my mind. It's there.
[1:41:11] Speaker 3: The proof is there, in fact, the secret truth about
[1:41:15] Speaker 3: time travel and a lot of these things regarding non
[1:41:18] Speaker 3: human intelligence are fascinating because they've been around a long time.
[1:41:24] Speaker 3: And this gentleman was, for lack of a better word,
[1:41:27] Speaker 3: slowing down in a controlled little area, slowing down time
[1:41:32] Speaker 3: so that organs would not go bad for transplant victims. Now,
[1:41:38] Speaker 3: what gets even weirder about that is if that's not
[1:41:41] Speaker 3: weird enough that time travel exists and that people have
[1:41:44] Speaker 3: been using it since Art Bell, for at least for
[1:41:47] Speaker 3: organ transplantation, what gets really strange about that is that
[1:41:53] Speaker 3: this gentleman starts meeting coincidentally, synchronistically, whatever you want to
[1:41:59] Speaker 3: call it, the most fascinating people you could imagine. And
[1:42:04] Speaker 3: I started going down those strange rabbit holes. What was
[1:42:09] Speaker 3: found out was that every time, according to many of
[1:42:14] Speaker 3: the people I looked into, every time, that time is
[1:42:19] Speaker 3: displaced and there is a slight change in what they
[1:42:23] Speaker 3: call the closed timelike curves. In other words, it's also
[1:42:29] Speaker 3: superluminal propagation, or basically, for lack of a better word,
[1:42:34] Speaker 3: if you change things in reality, you go back in
[1:42:38] Speaker 3: time or forward in time, or even saving somebody's life
[1:42:42] Speaker 3: with an organ that was not supposed to make it right,
[1:42:46] Speaker 3: you're still changing things. Every time you change something, our
[1:42:51] Speaker 3: base reality is pushed apart by one. So allegedly the
[1:42:58] Speaker 3: time control or our base reality keeps moving by one
[1:43:04] Speaker 3: and it's off. And when that happens, you end up
[1:43:07] Speaker 3: with more and more of what is known as a matrix.
[1:43:10] Speaker 3: And this is why billionaire scientists like Elon Musk and
[1:43:14] Speaker 3: many others that look into time dilation and other things
[1:43:17] Speaker 3: or the matrix theory, have said that you know the
[1:43:22] Speaker 3: possibilities of us living in base reality are billions to one.
[1:43:26] Speaker 3: In other words, the math doesn't check out. Uh, if
[1:43:29] Speaker 3: it did, they would say we're in base reality. But
[1:43:32] Speaker 3: they're like, no, the math doesn't check and that's one
[1:43:35] Speaker 3: of the alleged reasons. So it's it's absolutely mind blowing.
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: I've had this thought before, and it's terrifying that the
[1:43:44] Speaker 1: possibility that somewhere along the lines, sometime in our past,
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: these mad scientists mess with our reality so much that
[1:43:57] Speaker 1: we are in this straining matrix that is no longer
[1:44:02] Speaker 1: baseline reality.
[1:44:06] Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, it makes sense. And you know, many things
[1:44:11] Speaker 3: that we think are cool and new age now only
[1:44:15] Speaker 3: prove it further, like the ability to manifest things fairly easily.
[1:44:19] Speaker 3: You know, you become what you think about. All these
[1:44:23] Speaker 3: things that are happening around us, the coincidences, the synchronicities.
[1:44:27] Speaker 3: A plane going down with a helicopter and then two
[1:44:30] Speaker 3: days later another plane going down with a helicopter, and
[1:44:34] Speaker 3: one happens on for example, one happens on the ninth
[1:44:38] Speaker 3: day of Trump's presidency, and one happens on the eleventh day.
[1:44:43] Speaker 3: That's nine to eleven. Or we have Trump with forty
[1:44:46] Speaker 3: five forty seven, that's again nine to eleven, or we
[1:44:49] Speaker 3: have the one two eight code, or this all taking
[1:44:52] Speaker 3: place with runway thirty three. Not to go down this
[1:44:55] Speaker 3: crazy airplane scenario that we see these these tragedies, but
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: just like that, we have closed timelike curves or synchronicities
[1:45:07] Speaker 3: that almost seem holographic, like you would find on a
[1:45:11] Speaker 3: hollow deck where it's like, oh, junk, there's a there's
[1:45:15] Speaker 3: a glitch in the matrix and you start to see
[1:45:17] Speaker 3: that repeat until you stop it. And with this doctor
[1:45:22] Speaker 3: Lewis Anderson and some of the folks he met to
[1:45:25] Speaker 3: give you an idea, he had a lab here in
[1:45:29] Speaker 3: the United States. He made a lab in Romania. I
[1:45:32] Speaker 3: bought a book of his. There was only one, really,
[1:45:35] Speaker 3: you know, like kind of paperback junkie book. It was
[1:45:38] Speaker 3: like seventy one bucks and I'm like, what are you doing? Ryan?
[1:45:41] Speaker 3: But I had to have it, and it's mind blowing.
[1:45:45] Speaker 3: He meets these people almost by divine consciousness or synchronicity
[1:45:51] Speaker 3: what we would call today. And one of these individuals
[1:45:53] Speaker 3: is a guy named Radu Cinemas who is a member
[1:45:57] Speaker 3: of what's known Have you heard of this? I? Yeah,
[1:46:01] Speaker 3: So this guy is like a member of something called
[1:46:05] Speaker 3: Department Zero, which is a Romanian intelligence agency assigned to
[1:46:11] Speaker 3: monitor and explore ancient subterranean chambers. In other words, hollow
[1:46:16] Speaker 3: Earth and futuristic technologies, including holographic projections, and these are
[1:46:23] Speaker 3: projections contoured to the mind of the viewers, so in
[1:46:26] Speaker 3: other words, what the observer sees becomes reality. Back to
[1:46:30] Speaker 3: your point, there's a glitch in the matrix. And with
[1:46:33] Speaker 3: time travel, with exotic propulsion systems, with quote unquote aliens, angels, demons,
[1:46:40] Speaker 3: all these things are relatively coming to a head as
[1:46:46] Speaker 3: we're noticing.
[1:46:47] Speaker 1: I was speaking with someone the other day who put
[1:46:52] Speaker 1: it very interestingly that there seems to be something that
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: wants to force its way into our reality, that there's
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: this growing consensus among so many people that something big
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: is on the horizon, that we are on the precipice
[1:47:08] Speaker 1: of some massive event. And based on what you were
[1:47:13] Speaker 1: just saying, now, I wonder, could it be that a
[1:47:16] Speaker 1: reality maybe collapsing back to some sort of baseline formation.
[1:47:21] Speaker 1: Do you think that's possible to get back to that baseline?
[1:47:27] Speaker 3: You know, I've heard that there are people whose entire
[1:47:31] Speaker 3: job is to make breakthroughs to try to get us
[1:47:37] Speaker 3: closer to that base reality that there is a lot
[1:47:42] Speaker 3: even though it sounds boring, base reality sounds boring, there's
[1:47:46] Speaker 3: a lot of buffer that would be provided to stop
[1:47:50] Speaker 3: some of these quote unquote glitches from continually taking place.
[1:47:55] Speaker 3: So that would be tremendous. You know, that's an extremely
[1:47:58] Speaker 3: wild development if we have of that taking place, and
[1:48:03] Speaker 3: there's technologies and methods for that type of time control
[1:48:07] Speaker 3: and allegedly for time travel. Now the issue with that
[1:48:11] Speaker 3: is it gets into circulating light beams, quantum tunneling, a
[1:48:16] Speaker 3: bunch of really strange scientific rabbit holes. And you know,
[1:48:22] Speaker 3: one of the weirdest things about going down these rabbit
[1:48:25] Speaker 3: holes is you get all of this really big foundational
[1:48:31] Speaker 3: evidence and then, as in the case of doctor David
[1:48:35] Speaker 3: Lewis Anderson, eventually these guys are sort of tracked by
[1:48:41] Speaker 3: the government. And this happens with a lot of these
[1:48:43] Speaker 3: mathematicians and scientists tracked with the government. They are intimidated,
[1:48:51] Speaker 3: They are either locked up for reasons that don't make sense,
[1:48:55] Speaker 3: or they just disappear, which is probably in my opinion,
[1:49:00] Speaker 3: telling right, and the secret truth about them disappearing, Yet
[1:49:05] Speaker 3: a lot of their evidence still being there, and in
[1:49:08] Speaker 3: many cases laboratories institutes, technologies and ongoing archives continuing. I mean,
[1:49:18] Speaker 3: what are we to think?
[1:49:20] Speaker 1: It makes me wonder what kind of technology is being
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: utilized beyond anything that we could possibly imagine. And on
[1:49:29] Speaker 1: top of that, how much does that technology affect our reality?
[1:49:33] Speaker 1: And are they constantly utilizing things that may shift us
[1:49:39] Speaker 1: further from baseline reality? Are they still doing things like this?
[1:49:45] Speaker 3: Yeah? It I think they are, and I think that,
[1:49:49] Speaker 3: you know, people are starting to be aware of it.
[1:49:52] Speaker 3: You know, it's something that as long as you can
[1:49:55] Speaker 3: keep the genie in the bottle, he's in the bottle,
[1:49:59] Speaker 3: but he keeps gett out. And that's how it is
[1:50:02] Speaker 3: with a lot of these fast, fascinating scientific endeavors. The
[1:50:07] Speaker 3: doomsday clock is now, I believe, eighty nine seconds to midnight.
[1:50:11] Speaker 3: And what's fascinating about that is they claim that the
[1:50:14] Speaker 3: reason for that is quantum computing AI. And what I've
[1:50:20] Speaker 3: heard is mathematicians are potentially the most dangerous and computer
[1:50:28] Speaker 3: experts computer geeks, as Isaac Wisop says, the nerds are
[1:50:33] Speaker 3: going to kill us. And it's because everything we rely
[1:50:37] Speaker 3: on now, even you and I discussing this is on
[1:50:41] Speaker 3: a if we dare call it a secret code of
[1:50:46] Speaker 3: ones and zeros. It's math going through fiber optic cable,
[1:50:51] Speaker 3: which is nothing but glass tubes, you know, traveling through time,
[1:50:56] Speaker 3: essentially literally traveling through time instantaneously, which is impossible, but
[1:51:01] Speaker 3: here we are. And yet those who understand how to
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: manipulate the math and the secret sciences that have to
[1:51:12] Speaker 3: do with quantum computing and AI are the biggest potential
[1:51:17] Speaker 3: terrorists to our time because they can hack anything, they
[1:51:21] Speaker 3: can take anything, they can shut anything down, and we're
[1:51:24] Speaker 3: in a tremendously I believe unprotected state in these modern times.
[1:51:29] Speaker 1: I have to look at science and technology, and I
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: understand curiosity. I understand a thirst for knowledge and knowing
[1:51:39] Speaker 1: how things work, But at what point is it too much?
[1:51:45] Speaker 1: I firmly believe that there are things about our reality
[1:51:48] Speaker 1: we're not supposed to know, we're not supposed to mess with,
[1:51:53] Speaker 1: to mess with, and may have very severe consequences if
[1:51:57] Speaker 1: we do, and probably we're already experiencing those consequences because
[1:52:03] Speaker 1: these extreme nerd doarks won't stop messing with our reality.
[1:52:09] Speaker 1: At some point you have to say, I'm cool with it.
[1:52:12] Speaker 1: I'm fine with this. We are thriving as a whole
[1:52:17] Speaker 1: as humans in our modern age compared to even our
[1:52:22] Speaker 1: recent past, and I think we're doing well enough to
[1:52:27] Speaker 1: where we don't have to keep exploring these areas of
[1:52:31] Speaker 1: our reality that could implode our reality. So that's just
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: where I'm at with that, and I've always felt that way.
[1:52:40] Speaker 1: I think that there is should be align drawn with
[1:52:44] Speaker 1: some of these technological advancements.
[1:52:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, there has to be a line, and then you're
[1:52:51] Speaker 3: always intact. Anytime you make a line, it gets it
[1:52:54] Speaker 3: gets pushed for the moving of the gold post, and
[1:52:58] Speaker 3: I get it. You know, everybody wants more. It's the
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: human part of part of the human condition. It's understood
[1:53:06] Speaker 3: that whatever we get our hands on, we want more
[1:53:10] Speaker 3: of it in this continuum. And the issue is with
[1:53:15] Speaker 3: this base reality aspect and the measurement of our free
[1:53:18] Speaker 3: will being infringed upon, potentially by these entities that are
[1:53:23] Speaker 3: aware that our base reality is no longer what it
[1:53:26] Speaker 3: used to be. We're now isolated objects in this chessboard,
[1:53:32] Speaker 3: which is really funny because secret societies have said this
[1:53:36] Speaker 3: for time immemorium. You know that this is a game,
[1:53:39] Speaker 3: and that these entities like the Greeks would talk about
[1:53:42] Speaker 3: the gods up on man olympus that every once in
[1:53:44] Speaker 3: a while, they're they're checking the game, they're moving some pieces,
[1:53:48] Speaker 3: they're they're making it interesting. But it's not fair, and
[1:53:53] Speaker 3: very much so, I think that we could be outsourcing
[1:53:57] Speaker 3: a lot of our independence, a lot of our humanity
[1:54:01] Speaker 3: when we realize and understand that we're put like a
[1:54:04] Speaker 3: rat in a maze, we're put into a scenario where
[1:54:09] Speaker 3: we are not we're no longer in control of it,
[1:54:14] Speaker 3: and we're no longer in control of it, and this
[1:54:18] Speaker 3: base reality, for lack of a better word, is God's
[1:54:22] Speaker 3: only way to keep everything from happening all at once.
[1:54:25] Speaker 3: You remember that kind of it got great reviews, but
[1:54:28] Speaker 3: it was kind of a lame movie. What is it everything, yes,
[1:54:31] Speaker 3: the time, all at once or something like that. Yeah,
[1:54:34] Speaker 3: that is where we're headed unless we can kind of
[1:54:38] Speaker 3: tap the brakes on this phenomenon, at least as far
[1:54:41] Speaker 3: as our perception of right.
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: On well fascinating as usual, Ryan love our discussions. Is
[1:54:48] Speaker 1: there anything that you're going to be involved with upcoming
[1:54:51] Speaker 1: that may be interesting for the audience to hear about?
[1:54:56] Speaker 3: You bet? If you happen to be in or around Phoenix, Arizona.
[1:55:01] Speaker 3: On the twenty second I will be speaking at Phoenix
[1:55:06] Speaker 3: moof on have a little presentation called Watching the Watchers,
[1:55:10] Speaker 3: which you can guess where that's going. And yeah, it
[1:55:16] Speaker 3: is basically something that will be exciting and other than that,
[1:55:23] Speaker 3: you can catch me anytimeweekly at hero paranormal dot com
[1:55:27] Speaker 3: or hero Paranormal on YouTube, Spotify, rumble.
[1:55:30] Speaker 1: It's awesome, Ryan, amazing as usual, Thank you brother, and
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: we'll definitely do it again soon. Until next time, everyone
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