# Derek Condit | Cosmic Shungite, Beings Between Densities, Squatch Encounters

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 20 Jul 2026, 1 h 18 min.

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## Transcript

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[0:50] Speaker 1: I want to welcome Derek Condit. He is an author, entrepreneur,
[0:53] Speaker 1: certified hypnotherapist, psychic medium, and the founder of Cosmic, Shunguite
[0:59] Speaker 1: and Bigfoot gyms in Washington State. Derek, Welcome, How you
[1:03] Speaker 1: doing doing well.
[1:05] Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me on. I'm excited about this.
[1:07] Speaker 1: I am very excited to get into this as well.
[1:10] Speaker 1: We're going to learn about your work with shung guite
[1:13] Speaker 1: and beehives. You've been on an incredible spiritual journey. As
[1:17] Speaker 1: it relates to your work, it explores energy, consciousness and
[1:21] Speaker 1: the connection between the physical and metaphysical worlds. You've also
[1:26] Speaker 1: had some encounters with non human intelligences UFOs, aliens, spirits,
[1:33] Speaker 1: even sasquatch. Very much looking forward to hearing about that
[1:37] Speaker 1: as well. Before we get into it. This is your
[1:39] Speaker 1: first time on tell the audience a little bit about
[1:42] Speaker 1: yourself and let them know how they can find more.
[1:45] Speaker 2: Sure, well, actually I guess I'll keep it kind of
[1:49] Speaker 2: brief if I can. Sure, But actually, so, I have
[1:53] Speaker 2: a background some a veteran from the US Army, and
[1:57] Speaker 2: then from there I became as we talked about a
[1:59] Speaker 2: little bit before the show, I was a commercial deep
[2:01] Speaker 2: sea diver and then became a Washington State correctional officer
[2:06] Speaker 2: and during that time, and that's here in Washington State
[2:08] Speaker 2: is where I actually opened up more so into the
[2:11] Speaker 2: metaphysical aspects of reality, because I didn't have a background
[2:15] Speaker 2: in that at all until believe it or not. I
[2:18] Speaker 2: was introduced to shun Guite, the mineral we're going to
[2:21] Speaker 2: be talking about. So that was a pretty world awakening
[2:26] Speaker 2: situation and we can get into that if you like.
[2:28] Speaker 2: But since then, I've become a certified hypnote therapist, and
[2:33] Speaker 2: tying it back to shun Guite, I'm also now the
[2:36] Speaker 2: terms commonly used would be a psychic medium, and that
[2:40] Speaker 2: turned on I guess you can say, after the introduction
[2:43] Speaker 2: of shun guy and I had no past in that whatsoever,
[2:46] Speaker 2: So that was pretty extraordinary for me to experience that.
[2:51] Speaker 1: Well, I would love to hear about what led you
[2:55] Speaker 1: to where you're at, the profound event that you were
[2:58] Speaker 1: just mentioning. I'd love to hear a little bit more
[3:00] Speaker 1: about that if possible.
[3:02] Speaker 2: Sure. Oh and then you also asked me about where
[3:04] Speaker 2: they can find me, and yes, cosmicshun dite dot com
[3:08] Speaker 2: would be my home web page where you can branches
[3:12] Speaker 2: off into everything else. But yeah, kind of tied it
[3:15] Speaker 2: into how this all started again. I was a Washington
[3:18] Speaker 2: State Correctional officer, wasn't and like to make fun of
[3:21] Speaker 2: things sometimes, So I was gonna say, you know, I
[3:23] Speaker 2: wasn't brought up by hippie parents or anything like that,
[3:26] Speaker 2: just to fought it. But so I wasn't aware of
[3:29] Speaker 2: the metaphysical aspects. But all of a sudden, I was
[3:32] Speaker 2: just doing some online research because I'm also a gold
[3:35] Speaker 2: prospector and rockhound and a lot of different things, and
[3:40] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, over the Internet, I was just
[3:43] Speaker 2: and I think it was probably Facebook or something like that,
[3:46] Speaker 2: I was shown and introduced to a mineral called shundite,
[3:49] Speaker 2: which is from Carelia, Russia. It kept coming up in
[3:53] Speaker 2: my feet. I knew nothing about it. I couldn't even
[3:55] Speaker 2: pronounce the name or the word.
[3:58] Speaker 1: So, yeah, all I really know about chun guide. It's
[4:00] Speaker 1: a rare black mineral rock and you can oftentimes find
[4:04] Speaker 1: them in metaphysical shops near the checkout counter. But that's
[4:07] Speaker 1: pretty much the extent of my knowledge as well. What
[4:11] Speaker 1: would you define shun guide as.
[4:14] Speaker 2: It's it's the most energetic stone or mineral on this planet,
[4:19] Speaker 2: as I've learned. So it's actually a carbon based mineral
[4:23] Speaker 2: found in one location, which is Carillia, Russia, and it's
[4:27] Speaker 2: been known about for several hundred years and kind of
[4:30] Speaker 2: the beauty behind it. And I've made a shun gait
[4:33] Speaker 2: science webpage that links from cosmicshunkai dot com because I'm
[4:37] Speaker 2: kind of a science geek to where I reference and
[4:41] Speaker 2: actually share or reshare over one hundred and five scientific
[4:46] Speaker 2: studies that have been done over the past several years
[4:50] Speaker 2: using shun gui to show all of its benefits. So
[4:52] Speaker 2: it's one of those rocks or minerals that has a
[4:55] Speaker 2: legit background history scientific studies regarding it on it's effects,
[5:01] Speaker 2: and that's everything from scientists have fed shung Guy powdered
[5:04] Speaker 2: to rats and tripled their lifespan. They've done a study
[5:08] Speaker 2: here in the past couple of years where if you were, like,
[5:11] Speaker 2: I'm wearing a shung Guy bracelet and a shung Guy
[5:13] Speaker 2: pendant where because of course there's cell phones and Wi
[5:17] Speaker 2: Fi everywhere, we can't avoid that or five G frequencies
[5:22] Speaker 2: things like that that affect us physiologically. They affect our
[5:26] Speaker 2: heart rate variability, our ear drum temperature, our cortisol levels.
[5:31] Speaker 2: And in the study I'm talking about, scientists actually used
[5:34] Speaker 2: pendants and or bracelet or other ways of using a
[5:37] Speaker 2: shung Guy and they showed that it not only reverses
[5:40] Speaker 2: all of the harmful effects from those frequencies, but makes
[5:45] Speaker 2: you stronger just by wearing shung Gui. And that's what
[5:48] Speaker 2: I'm really excited about as well. Yeah, it's pretty interesting
[5:51] Speaker 2: when scientists and physicists actually get involved and prove that
[5:55] Speaker 2: it's a thing and it's not just on in front
[5:57] Speaker 2: of it again, a magic black rock, meta physical shop thing. Yeah.
[6:02] Speaker 1: Well, before we get too deep into anything else, I
[6:05] Speaker 1: interrupted your story about your journey. Apologies, please continue.
[6:09] Speaker 2: Oh no, it's all good. Interrupt anytime you going all
[6:12] Speaker 2: over the place. Yeah, but yeah, I after I found
[6:16] Speaker 2: out about Shunkai again, I couldn't even pronounce the name.
[6:20] Speaker 2: I ordered one rock off the internet, so one Shunkui nugget.
[6:24] Speaker 2: It showed up within a couple of weeks later from Karelia,
[6:27] Speaker 2: Russia I lived, and I wasn't a member. I wasn't
[6:30] Speaker 2: into this stuff. So I take it out of the package,
[6:32] Speaker 2: grab it so it's in my hand, and literally, I
[6:35] Speaker 2: feel I'll just kind of describe it how I would
[6:37] Speaker 2: have back then, an unusual pulse of energy shoot through me.
[6:42] Speaker 2: It affected my bio field, my area, my energy state,
[6:46] Speaker 2: and call it what you will, but it had an
[6:48] Speaker 2: immediate effect that just really grabbed my attention and blew
[6:51] Speaker 2: my mind. So that's when I first started working with it.
[6:55] Speaker 2: And here's where I'll tie in the bees, because I
[6:57] Speaker 2: realized and I'll also have to say, it had a
[7:01] Speaker 2: just a significant calming effect. So it was really just
[7:05] Speaker 2: calming effect. That's just caught me off guard because I
[7:09] Speaker 2: didn't think the rock was going to do that. I
[7:11] Speaker 2: wasn't preloaded, didn't know anything about it, so I didn't
[7:15] Speaker 2: read anything or any stories, and back then, which was
[7:18] Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, I don't think there was much information on it.
[7:23] Speaker 2: But after realizing that the effect it had on me,
[7:25] Speaker 2: I thought, well, wait a minute, what about the bees,
[7:29] Speaker 2: Because i'm what's called an organic or treatment free bee
[7:32] Speaker 2: keeper as well. I mean, you know, I'm not a
[7:34] Speaker 2: big fan of introducing chemicals into the beehives and things
[7:37] Speaker 2: like that, because that stuff does transfer into the honey
[7:41] Speaker 2: if you harvest honey from the beehives or the bees themselves.
[7:45] Speaker 2: And this video was shared on our website and YouTube page,
[7:48] Speaker 2: I believe, But I walked outside within i don't know,
[7:52] Speaker 2: ten twenty minutes of receiving the shung guy in the
[7:55] Speaker 2: mail and thought, and I captured all this on video,
[7:57] Speaker 2: and I thought, well, let's see if the bees respond
[7:59] Speaker 2: to because it just this crazy effect on me in
[8:03] Speaker 2: a good way. Yeah yeah, So I walk out put
[8:06] Speaker 2: this little black rock at the entrance of a beehive,
[8:08] Speaker 2: and an entrance of a beehive for those who don't know,
[8:11] Speaker 2: I don't know. It's loosely depending on the type of hive,
[8:14] Speaker 2: but about eighteen inches long, and the bees can come
[8:17] Speaker 2: and go from any spot on there, and they do.
[8:20] Speaker 2: I placed a shun guite on there, and I'd say
[8:22] Speaker 2: about ninety five percent of the bees instantly started coming
[8:26] Speaker 2: and going from the beehive walking on that piece of
[8:29] Speaker 2: shun guite. And that grabbed my attention because lots of
[8:33] Speaker 2: things have fallen on the entrance, from snow to leaves
[8:36] Speaker 2: to all sorts of stuff, and typically bees will remove
[8:40] Speaker 2: items as long as it's not too large from the entrance.
[8:43] Speaker 2: They'll team up and just kind of shove them off
[8:45] Speaker 2: and you know, open their entrance again. What I found
[8:48] Speaker 2: when I introduced a shun guy, and I didn't know
[8:50] Speaker 2: it's about a week later when I went to check
[8:52] Speaker 2: on it after a rainstorm, thinking maybe the rain and
[8:56] Speaker 2: the wind had washed off the piece of shun guy.
[8:58] Speaker 2: The bees at propylist so it's like a bee glue,
[9:01] Speaker 2: you can think, secured the shun gay nugget to the
[9:04] Speaker 2: entrance of the hive, making sure it wouldn't go anywhere.
[9:07] Speaker 2: And as time progressed, I learned all of my what's
[9:11] Speaker 2: called calling collapse dis or stopped on my beehives. That's
[9:16] Speaker 2: a for those who don't know, but there's huge be
[9:19] Speaker 2: losses around the world, not just here in the US,
[9:21] Speaker 2: but around the entire planet for different reasons, be it
[9:25] Speaker 2: chemicals or frequencies and things like that. Mine completely disappeared,
[9:30] Speaker 2: so much so that the two hives I had introduced
[9:33] Speaker 2: Shunghai two turned into eight bee hives, meaning they grew
[9:38] Speaker 2: so much they superseded so such an abundance of bees
[9:41] Speaker 2: that I had to make additional beehives and transfer a
[9:44] Speaker 2: portion of them into that. And I can't convince bees
[9:47] Speaker 2: to do anything for me, and nobody really can't, and
[9:50] Speaker 2: they don't perform, so they're doing what they feel or
[9:53] Speaker 2: know is right or beneficial. And that was when they
[9:56] Speaker 2: started doing that, generating more queens, which led to the
[9:59] Speaker 2: expansion of the bee. And then that's when I started
[10:02] Speaker 2: realizing more about shunk guite, and it ties into a
[10:06] Speaker 2: whole other topic. But and I usually steered away from
[10:11] Speaker 2: the word psychic just because again it wasn't my thing.
[10:14] Speaker 2: I wasn't into it. I didn't deny it or anything.
[10:17] Speaker 2: I just wasn't something I was into. So I usually
[10:20] Speaker 2: use the word intuition. But after my first encounter Shung Guite,
[10:25] Speaker 2: and I was actually on the graveyard shift at the
[10:27] Speaker 2: maximum security prison I worked at at the time, my
[10:31] Speaker 2: intuition or psychic abilities just went crazy. And there wasn't
[10:36] Speaker 2: something I was working on or trying to enhance. I
[10:39] Speaker 2: wasn't listening to podcasts, I wasn't a hypnotherapist at the time,
[10:43] Speaker 2: none of that. I was just working double shifts at
[10:46] Speaker 2: the prison, doing my thing, and then all of a
[10:48] Speaker 2: sudden I would pick up on I'll just say the
[10:51] Speaker 2: thoughts to be blunt of the inmates that were in there,
[10:55] Speaker 2: and it would come through. Again. I like the word intuition,
[10:59] Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, I would just know what
[11:01] Speaker 2: they were going to say to me, or hear it
[11:04] Speaker 2: to a degree in my head beforehand, or know that
[11:08] Speaker 2: some situation was going to happen over in this part
[11:10] Speaker 2: of the cell block or whatever, and it was happening.
[11:15] Speaker 2: So often that it just really grabbed my attention and
[11:17] Speaker 2: I thought, what the heck? And I didn't attribute it
[11:19] Speaker 2: to Shun Guy right away. I wasn't thinking about that.
[11:23] Speaker 2: And then I started working more with Shun Guy, and
[11:25] Speaker 2: then my intuition would enhance, and then I would get
[11:29] Speaker 2: what they would call psychic vision, or they call some
[11:33] Speaker 2: of a seers. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that,
[11:35] Speaker 2: but I wasn't where I could actually start to I
[11:38] Speaker 2: like the word perceive rather than see, but I could
[11:41] Speaker 2: perceive biofields or auras or energies, all kinds of stuff,
[11:46] Speaker 2: And I thought, whoa am I having the issues? Here?
[11:49] Speaker 2: Is or something? I always thought it was a physical thing, Yeah,
[11:52] Speaker 2: but it was a metaphysical thing, and Shun Guy is
[11:55] Speaker 2: absolutely what started that process for me.
[11:59] Speaker 1: Let's get down deeper into what would be considered some
[12:03] Speaker 1: of the metaphysical properties. Why is this having an effect
[12:07] Speaker 1: on you? Why is this having an effect on bees?
[12:09] Speaker 1: What did your research start to point to.
[12:12] Speaker 2: That's a great question because long story short, it's all
[12:16] Speaker 2: about the C sixty or carbon sixty molecule. It's also
[12:20] Speaker 2: known as a bucket ball or full of rain, and
[12:23] Speaker 2: scientists know all about it. It's one of the most,
[12:25] Speaker 2: if not the most abundant molecules in the entire universe.
[12:30] Speaker 2: It's not made down here on planet Earth, but it's
[12:32] Speaker 2: found all through space and it's one of the molecules
[12:36] Speaker 2: that are in shunk guite. And that's what does all
[12:38] Speaker 2: the magic regarding Shunkuy because Shunkuy is mostly carbon based.
[12:43] Speaker 2: It's a mineral. And there's debate on how it was
[12:47] Speaker 2: how it was I guess not found in Carella, Russia,
[12:51] Speaker 2: but how it got located there. And the most landed
[12:55] Speaker 2: upon story would be a meteorite who knows when, over
[12:58] Speaker 2: a billion years ago or so there's and the shunkit
[13:02] Speaker 2: deposits the size of a small city, so it's large.
[13:05] Speaker 2: It's not you know, one rock that landed there. It's
[13:08] Speaker 2: really huge. And they've been breaking off pieces since then.
[13:12] Speaker 2: And then that molecule carbon sixty or C sixty is
[13:16] Speaker 2: also the molecule they're extracting from shun git to do
[13:21] Speaker 2: all these scientific studies with with animals plants, So they've
[13:25] Speaker 2: taken shun gie powder put it in plants. I mean,
[13:29] Speaker 2: I can go on and ou, but there's over one
[13:30] Speaker 2: hundred of them. Everything from cucumber plants to you name it,
[13:34] Speaker 2: and then the results from adding shun gite, and it
[13:37] Speaker 2: can be a house plant even because that's what I
[13:39] Speaker 2: use it for as well. They're going to grow ten
[13:42] Speaker 2: times the size if they didn't have shun guite, So
[13:45] Speaker 2: if they had shunkay, they're going to grow that much more.
[13:48] Speaker 2: And then an interesting fact that another study that just
[13:51] Speaker 2: came out recently was I can have to preempty with this.
[13:55] Speaker 2: You can also use shun git in your water. And
[13:58] Speaker 2: when you add shunkait to your water, so introduce that
[14:01] Speaker 2: carbon sixty molecule, it becomes what's sometimes called living water
[14:05] Speaker 2: or structured water. There's different terms for that type of water,
[14:09] Speaker 2: but it makes it more biocompatible to your body. The
[14:13] Speaker 2: water after you had shun guite and your body identifies
[14:16] Speaker 2: it as water because it's if water goes through certain
[14:19] Speaker 2: pipes and pumps, it gets unstructured on the molecular level
[14:24] Speaker 2: and then it's not as beneficial for you or all
[14:26] Speaker 2: the chemicals that are added to it. So the scientists
[14:29] Speaker 2: in the study and referencing took shun gai water, and
[14:33] Speaker 2: so to make shun guy water, we have something called
[14:35] Speaker 2: shun gaite water beads where I take three shun three
[14:38] Speaker 2: shunk guy beads or some of the ones might bracet
[14:41] Speaker 2: kind of wind them together with silver. You put them
[14:44] Speaker 2: in your water. And what they did was took the
[14:46] Speaker 2: shun gui water made pastries and breads out of it,
[14:50] Speaker 2: and they found out that the pastries and bread lasted
[14:53] Speaker 2: three weeks longer than non shung guy water pastries and
[14:56] Speaker 2: bread where they show any sign of mildew or fungus. Wow.
[15:00] Speaker 2: Shagin has a huge effect on chlorine. And they've another
[15:04] Speaker 2: study was glyphos so round up weed killer. They've shown
[15:07] Speaker 2: if you take shungai powder, put it in your gardens
[15:10] Speaker 2: or on your plants or some place that's been treated
[15:12] Speaker 2: with that, it'll break up the glyphosate. It doesn't capture
[15:16] Speaker 2: it like you might think a piece of carbon in
[15:18] Speaker 2: your water filters with a bunch of little pores grabbing
[15:21] Speaker 2: the particles. It breaks it into its constituents. So it's
[15:25] Speaker 2: not what's known as roundup or glyphosate any longer. Right, Yeah,
[15:30] Speaker 2: phenomenal thing.
[15:31] Speaker 1: My good friend Ken Schwartz, he is a scientist. He
[15:35] Speaker 1: was the founder of a company called C sixty Purple Power.
[15:39] Speaker 1: They extract pure very potent C sixty. I've used it
[15:45] Speaker 1: for years now. I attribute much of my radical changes
[15:52] Speaker 1: in health, weight loss, the way I feel on an
[15:56] Speaker 1: everyday basis energy sleep to my U of C sixty
[16:01] Speaker 1: and I've been using it for a couple of years
[16:04] Speaker 1: now I can attest to the incredible benefits of this
[16:09] Speaker 1: magical mineral at that C.
[16:11] Speaker 2: Sixty molecule that they're using, So that would be the
[16:14] Speaker 2: basis of the of their product. It looks like for
[16:17] Speaker 2: the for the listeners or viewers, it's a shape of
[16:20] Speaker 2: a US soccer ball. So it's made of little hexagons
[16:23] Speaker 2: and pentagons, which is exactly so the hexagons what bees
[16:28] Speaker 2: build their honeycomb out of it. And that's not a
[16:30] Speaker 2: random shape you can think, you know, there's different terms
[16:33] Speaker 2: from sacred geometry to shapes of the universe, but there's
[16:36] Speaker 2: a way energies move or can work, and the hexagon
[16:41] Speaker 2: is a big portion of that. So it's not random
[16:43] Speaker 2: that bees use that in their brood or their honeycomb.
[16:47] Speaker 2: Since I've begun working with shun Gait, I've invented just
[16:51] Speaker 2: a plethora of products from what's called shun git rubber,
[16:54] Speaker 2: where I take the shung guite powder, blend it into
[16:57] Speaker 2: a non toxic rubber that you so then and it's
[17:00] Speaker 2: easier to say, adhere to your skin or something like that.
[17:03] Speaker 2: So we have something called shun Guy patches where you
[17:06] Speaker 2: can put the shung Guy and we have a lot
[17:08] Speaker 2: of athletes that use it. The one version of it,
[17:11] Speaker 2: which is a shunk Guy rubber I'm talking about. You
[17:14] Speaker 2: can place it on your body and stick get there,
[17:17] Speaker 2: and it will promote your own healing because our normal
[17:19] Speaker 2: state of being is healed, not healen So introducing that
[17:24] Speaker 2: carbon sixty molecule, be it in the form of a
[17:27] Speaker 2: pendant or brace it like the scientific study showed, or
[17:30] Speaker 2: shung Guy rubber helps your energy body heal and you'll
[17:35] Speaker 2: it promotes healing physically. And that's not just for people. Again,
[17:39] Speaker 2: I like to reference science a lot. They've used it
[17:42] Speaker 2: on animals, They've get feded to chickens, they fed it
[17:45] Speaker 2: to bores. I mean it goes on and on on
[17:48] Speaker 2: the different studies that have been done and on people
[17:51] Speaker 2: like I referenced. It restores your heart rate variability, your
[17:55] Speaker 2: stress hormones called cortisol levels, just by wearing it, having
[18:00] Speaker 2: it on your body, So it absolutely promotes healing.
[18:04] Speaker 1: Let's get deeper into some of the spiritual metaphysical effects.
[18:09] Speaker 1: When you say you work with Shung Guide, maybe give
[18:12] Speaker 1: us some examples of that. Tell us a little bit
[18:15] Speaker 1: more about some of the effects you've personally noticed as
[18:19] Speaker 1: it relates to your psychic abilities things of that nature.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Sure, and again, like I mentioned earlier, I wasn't brought
[18:26] Speaker 2: up in the what I'll loosely called a metaphysical realm.
[18:29] Speaker 2: I wasn't looking into psychic phenomena or anything like that.
[18:32] Speaker 2: I kind of got thrust into it, and I'll order
[18:35] Speaker 2: this way. I see the psychic ability. It's a think,
[18:42] Speaker 2: a sense so intuition. We're all intuitive, and I've done
[18:46] Speaker 2: over a thousand sessions now, rather in person or remote
[18:49] Speaker 2: either way, and what I've learned from that is, again,
[18:52] Speaker 2: the psychic ability or intuitive ability is not really an ability.
[18:57] Speaker 2: It's a sense that we all have, and that sense
[19:01] Speaker 2: can be heightened by introducing Shun Guy to your environment,
[19:05] Speaker 2: so it has that Basically, I see it as removing
[19:08] Speaker 2: the excess or stressful frequencies or energies from not only
[19:13] Speaker 2: our biofield or aura, but from the environment, which is
[19:17] Speaker 2: why I haven't shun Guy just around plants has an effect.
[19:20] Speaker 2: I've built what's called a shun Guite room, and I
[19:23] Speaker 2: wasn't the first to do that, but you can take
[19:25] Speaker 2: shung guy powder, blend it with a paint, paint your walls,
[19:29] Speaker 2: and from my military days, we would call something like
[19:32] Speaker 2: that loosely a Faraday cage. Now, shun Guy's not blocking everything,
[19:38] Speaker 2: but what it does do so when you paint your
[19:40] Speaker 2: room with shun Guy paint, it removes or stops or
[19:44] Speaker 2: dampens the excessor overage frequencies. Again five g wi fi,
[19:49] Speaker 2: because we're not going to avoid that stuff. It's everywhere,
[19:52] Speaker 2: and it's been shown to be harmful for living beings
[19:55] Speaker 2: to one degree or another. And when I get away
[19:58] Speaker 2: from it, so again, in addition, shungg at your environment
[20:00] Speaker 2: in the form of paint in a shun Guy room.
[20:03] Speaker 2: And I'll mention. So I'm here at my store in
[20:06] Speaker 2: Mount Vernon, Washington, which is called Bigfoots Gems, and I've
[20:10] Speaker 2: built a room with shun Guy paint. So then we
[20:13] Speaker 2: call it a shun Guy room. And I'll kind of
[20:15] Speaker 2: make fun of things again like I tend to do.
[20:17] Speaker 2: The non believers, So the people come and go, oh yeah,
[20:20] Speaker 2: magic black rocks, such and such. They'll walk into a
[20:23] Speaker 2: shun guy room again with dissing it all in their head,
[20:28] Speaker 2: just not believing Israel. You know, somebody maybe drug him
[20:30] Speaker 2: in there or something. And the results I've heard over
[20:33] Speaker 2: the years are just nothing short of miraculous. It's where
[20:38] Speaker 2: one example would be, well, another ex veteran walked in
[20:42] Speaker 2: it was his girlfriend or or fiance or something the
[20:44] Speaker 2: drug and be in there that was into shun guided
[20:46] Speaker 2: research that she knew it was a real thing. He
[20:49] Speaker 2: didn't believe in any of it, was kind of making
[20:51] Speaker 2: fun of it. I kind of said, okay, well just
[20:53] Speaker 2: go walk in that room, you know, not even know
[20:55] Speaker 2: if you feel anything. Let me tell you. He and
[20:58] Speaker 2: hundreds of others now I've absolutely felt something or had healings.
[21:03] Speaker 2: In his instance was he had a knee injury from
[21:07] Speaker 2: his military days and he walked in and when he
[21:10] Speaker 2: came out, his eyes were really wide, saying, Derek, my
[21:13] Speaker 2: knee injury is gone. I have no pain down here whatsoever.
[21:17] Speaker 2: And I'm like, sh it has that effect. And after
[21:20] Speaker 2: hearing countless stories like that are people's personal experiences without
[21:25] Speaker 2: preloading them because I didn't tell him anything. Often in
[21:28] Speaker 2: the story, they would just see a room that and
[21:30] Speaker 2: I left it painted black. So I added this young
[21:32] Speaker 2: guy paint or powder to a black paint. You don't
[21:36] Speaker 2: have to, though, so I'm just kind of going adding
[21:38] Speaker 2: on here. You can always use it as a primer
[21:40] Speaker 2: and then paint another color paint over and it works fine.
[21:43] Speaker 2: So everybody listening, I want them to think they have
[21:46] Speaker 2: to have a black painted room. You don't. But they
[21:49] Speaker 2: would walk in there and they would see the room
[21:51] Speaker 2: and feel the room. And then again the countless stories
[21:54] Speaker 2: of people's intuition enhancing or physical healings. I have countless
[22:01] Speaker 2: doctors here locally to send their patients to us at
[22:04] Speaker 2: Bigfoot's Gems just to get shung guite for various aspects. Really,
[22:09] Speaker 2: it absolutely affects your I like the term biofield because
[22:12] Speaker 2: that's how I learned it. It affects that and restores
[22:16] Speaker 2: you to how you should be, and then your physical
[22:19] Speaker 2: body will match that. So yeah, it goes on and on,
[22:22] Speaker 2: but it's pretty phenomenal stuff.
[22:25] Speaker 1: Have you come across people that have the opposite effect
[22:29] Speaker 1: or do not feel anything, do not have any benefits
[22:33] Speaker 1: from shung Guide?
[22:34] Speaker 2: Okay, I have had people that on the other extreme,
[22:39] Speaker 2: touch Shung guite and it wasn't that they didn't feel anything.
[22:42] Speaker 2: They instantly felt something, but it wasn't instantly a positive
[22:48] Speaker 2: physiological sensation because they were energetically detoxing, is what it was.
[22:54] Speaker 2: So I found out that there are that percentage of
[22:56] Speaker 2: people that are just again, for lack of a better
[22:59] Speaker 2: way of putting it, energetically not aligned or misaligned, or
[23:03] Speaker 2: had been through such horrible, you know, diseases or sicknesses
[23:08] Speaker 2: or heightened environments by having you know, fifteen wifis around you,
[23:12] Speaker 2: from your neighbors and whatnot to where when they first
[23:14] Speaker 2: interact with Shun Guy. But they would all feel something,
[23:18] Speaker 2: and sometimes they would say as negative and I'm like, wow,
[23:21] Speaker 2: just give it a time, think bite sized pieces, maybe
[23:23] Speaker 2: go back to it. But inevitably, pretty much all of
[23:27] Speaker 2: them would come around and say and then come back
[23:29] Speaker 2: in the store and say, I want more Shun Guy,
[23:32] Speaker 2: And then how can I use my plants? How can
[23:33] Speaker 2: I give it to my animals? And I'd say, well,
[23:36] Speaker 2: you can take the Shun Guy rubber, put it under
[23:38] Speaker 2: your dog bed. I have a pond in here that
[23:41] Speaker 2: has a three hundred gallon Corey pond in the store
[23:44] Speaker 2: that has no filtration whatsoever for four years. All it has.
[23:48] Speaker 2: In fact, I got a piece right here is a
[23:50] Speaker 2: huge piece of shun guite, two piece pieces just sitting
[23:53] Speaker 2: in the bottom of it. And again, scientists figured all
[23:56] Speaker 2: that out themselves as far as adding water or shun
[23:59] Speaker 2: Guy to water, and it would structurally enhance the water
[24:04] Speaker 2: and removes all harmful chemicals from fluorides to chlorines to glyphosate.
[24:08] Speaker 2: So as far as people same thing, put it in
[24:11] Speaker 2: your water, your tea, your coffee, it doesn't matter. It's instant.
[24:15] Speaker 2: It's a frequency thing, so it's not like it has
[24:17] Speaker 2: to sit there for a day. It's affecting everything energetically,
[24:22] Speaker 2: and then you drink that water and you'll know the difference.
[24:24] Speaker 2: Even in sessions to kind of expand on what you asked,
[24:28] Speaker 2: I would do in person sessions and I'd have a
[24:30] Speaker 2: picture of water with our shun Guy water beads in it.
[24:33] Speaker 2: I don't go into a spiel about shun Guy. When
[24:34] Speaker 2: I'm doing a session. It's not a shun Guys. It's
[24:37] Speaker 2: usually an either hypnosis or a psychic medium session or
[24:39] Speaker 2: something like that. Pouring their water and again, inevitably they'd say,
[24:44] Speaker 2: this is the best water I've ever had. Wow, it's yeah,
[24:48] Speaker 2: just from adding shun Guy. And that would come in
[24:50] Speaker 2: just again hundreds and hundreds of times, with again no
[24:53] Speaker 2: preloading of any kind. So I knew it was the thing.
[24:56] Speaker 2: And then after so many times of having that interaction happened,
[25:00] Speaker 2: I thought, well, heck, I'm gonna start putting it in
[25:02] Speaker 2: my fish tank, in my pond doing different things like that.
[25:06] Speaker 1: Has your work got the attention of any scientific communities,
[25:12] Speaker 1: any academic groups. Has anyone been questioning or looking into
[25:17] Speaker 1: what you've been presenting?
[25:20] Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, what I call them? So I would be
[25:23] Speaker 2: the I guess inventor of what's known as the shung
[25:25] Speaker 2: Gai bee hives, where I not only add the nuggets
[25:28] Speaker 2: to the entrance like I mentioned, but I would paint
[25:30] Speaker 2: the exterior of the beehive with shung Gui paint and
[25:33] Speaker 2: stop calling a clapse disorder. So now, and I've been
[25:37] Speaker 2: doing that since twenty sixteen and gifting it for free
[25:40] Speaker 2: to bee keepers this whole time. They're on. They're all
[25:43] Speaker 2: around the planet. Pick your country, there are shun Guy
[25:45] Speaker 2: bee hives there. And we've had physicists involved one was
[25:50] Speaker 2: doctor Richard Allen Miller, oh right on, Yeah, a physicist,
[25:54] Speaker 2: and we chit chat about it down to this place
[25:56] Speaker 2: in the Oregon and talk about other doctors and scientists.
[25:59] Speaker 2: I was recently on the Children's Health Defense Network. They
[26:03] Speaker 2: found out about it and then started talking about it
[26:06] Speaker 2: more when they did research about the molecule again Carbon
[26:09] Speaker 2: sixty or see sixty. So there's a lot of studies
[26:12] Speaker 2: happening out there. There's some happening now behind the scenes
[26:16] Speaker 2: that haven't completed, so I can't really talk about those much.
[26:19] Speaker 2: But they're again they're building shung guy rooms. And it's
[26:22] Speaker 2: not a placebo effectcause you're not telling anybody about what's
[26:25] Speaker 2: going on. It's more walk into this room, walk into
[26:28] Speaker 2: that room, and let us know if you pick up
[26:31] Speaker 2: on anything, Is there anything you can tell us, where
[26:33] Speaker 2: did you feel anything? Vague comments like that, And it's
[26:36] Speaker 2: been pretty miraculous and it's led into many other studies.
[26:41] Speaker 2: Again that people can find our shung guit science page
[26:44] Speaker 2: click on that. And I don't just talk about the studies.
[26:47] Speaker 2: I actually reproduce these studies, give them there so you
[26:49] Speaker 2: can read them yourself or the abstract and see what
[26:52] Speaker 2: they're doing with it, and it's pretty miraculous.
[26:56] Speaker 1: What is cosmic silver shung guite?
[27:00] Speaker 2: Sure, I found out kind of early on. That's a
[27:02] Speaker 2: great question too. That the metal silver is of course
[27:07] Speaker 2: beneficial to us as well back in the day, and
[27:11] Speaker 2: that's still now. They put silver in water, It kills bacteria, viruses,
[27:15] Speaker 2: it does all kinds of things. So I realized when
[27:18] Speaker 2: I had silver bracelet as well, that it I'll just again,
[27:22] Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to describing it, boosted the
[27:24] Speaker 2: effects shun Guy had on me. So I thought, well,
[27:28] Speaker 2: you know, and I'm remember I'm an also got prospector
[27:30] Speaker 2: and a rock hound, you can say. So what I
[27:33] Speaker 2: did was, so I have a background in that I
[27:36] Speaker 2: picked up a rock tumbler, which is typically a device
[27:39] Speaker 2: for those that don't know that, it's usually a metal device.
[27:41] Speaker 2: The a big that you put a tumbling medium in
[27:44] Speaker 2: with a bunch of rocks, and that's how you get
[27:45] Speaker 2: polished rocks. By this time, it was already in my
[27:49] Speaker 2: awareness of the hexagon shaped, So I actually found a
[27:53] Speaker 2: hexagon shaped rock tumbler, purchased just hundreds and hundreds of
[27:58] Speaker 2: little tiny silver bars. They were a little one gram bars,
[28:01] Speaker 2: I found online, so what I do to make and
[28:03] Speaker 2: I had to differentiate cosmic silver shun Guite from shun
[28:08] Speaker 2: guite because of what I do. So that's if it
[28:10] Speaker 2: says cosmic shun Guy or cosmic silver shun guite, it's
[28:15] Speaker 2: that I took. And that's why would tumble these beads
[28:17] Speaker 2: in and my pending. I'll put it in this hexagon
[28:20] Speaker 2: shaped rock tumbler with those hundreds of silver little bars
[28:23] Speaker 2: and tumble it for three days. And what it does
[28:26] Speaker 2: is just that just silver, and it gives a coating
[28:29] Speaker 2: of silver. So the silver particles transfer onto the shun
[28:32] Speaker 2: guy and that seemed to immensely boost it, and so
[28:36] Speaker 2: I had to come up with a name to differentiate it,
[28:39] Speaker 2: and that's when I came up with cosmic shun Guite.
[28:42] Speaker 2: So some of our products are made with cosmic shun
[28:44] Speaker 2: guite or regular shun guy. It just depends on the
[28:47] Speaker 2: use for the person.
[28:49] Speaker 1: If a person was interested in getting shun gite in bulk,
[28:55] Speaker 1: how would you recommend that be done.
[28:58] Speaker 2: You have to be really careful because shun GHIs gotten
[29:00] Speaker 2: so popular now that you know, if you order it
[29:03] Speaker 2: from China, they claim to have found another mine of it,
[29:06] Speaker 2: and they have not, and there's ways to test that
[29:08] Speaker 2: will actually tell you. Because one quick way to test
[29:11] Speaker 2: it is you can take a piece of shung guite
[29:14] Speaker 2: and use any touchscreen device like your cell phone or
[29:16] Speaker 2: tablet or whatnot and put it on there and it'll
[29:19] Speaker 2: actually your apps on your phone will respond. You can
[29:22] Speaker 2: switch the pages, you can do stuff like that, and
[29:24] Speaker 2: if it's not real shung guite, it's not going to
[29:27] Speaker 2: have any effect. Another way is the little tiny flashlights.
[29:31] Speaker 2: I should have grabbed one before the recording, but you
[29:33] Speaker 2: can take off the little so if the little mini
[29:35] Speaker 2: flashlights a lot of us have, you can take off
[29:37] Speaker 2: the end where there's a button to turn it on
[29:39] Speaker 2: and just touch shun guite to the battery and the
[29:42] Speaker 2: flash without putting the end of the flashlight back on,
[29:45] Speaker 2: and the flashlight will turn on. So that's another test
[29:48] Speaker 2: that you can do to verify you have real shun
[29:50] Speaker 2: guite and then rather than artificial stuff that just looks
[29:54] Speaker 2: like shun guite, you'd want to get it if you're
[29:56] Speaker 2: going to order it. And there's kind of some issues
[29:59] Speaker 2: now because of different tariffs and whatnot, because it is
[30:03] Speaker 2: in Karelia, Russia, so That's why I got kind of well,
[30:07] Speaker 2: I say lucky, because back then, when I realized it
[30:10] Speaker 2: was such a phenomenal energy tool, I literally ordered palettes
[30:14] Speaker 2: of it. So I ordered a lifetime supply of shun
[30:17] Speaker 2: Guy powder and nuggets directly from the mining Krillia. And
[30:21] Speaker 2: when they heard that I had invented what we call
[30:24] Speaker 2: the shunky bee hives, they contacted me. They got so
[30:27] Speaker 2: excited and my next shipment, all of a sudden, I
[30:30] Speaker 2: got I received as a gift a bowling ball sized
[30:33] Speaker 2: piece of shun guite. Wow, huge, just for their appreciation
[30:37] Speaker 2: of me helping introduce it to the world. And you know,
[30:39] Speaker 2: find out that it affects bees. And again, shun Guy
[30:43] Speaker 2: bee hives are all across the planet now as well.
[30:45] Speaker 2: So be careful if somebody does try and anybody listen,
[30:49] Speaker 2: tries to order it in bulk, make sure it's a
[30:51] Speaker 2: legit distributor. I'd say order a small amount first, do
[30:54] Speaker 2: a couple of the tests I talked about, verify its
[30:58] Speaker 2: real shun guite before you order more. Because I'm finding
[31:01] Speaker 2: out there's a lot of distributors that are selling fake,
[31:05] Speaker 2: fake shunkit basically.
[31:07] Speaker 1: And you said, the only place that shung gaite is
[31:12] Speaker 1: originated is somewhere in Russia.
[31:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only located in Karelia, Russia. And the general
[31:21] Speaker 2: story or belief from the scientists is that it had
[31:24] Speaker 2: to be a meteorite because unless like artificially, they're making
[31:28] Speaker 2: C sixty on Earth now by with lasers and different
[31:33] Speaker 2: things like that. I'm in contact with a couple of
[31:35] Speaker 2: NASA scientists who make it and basically they'll shoot a
[31:38] Speaker 2: high energy laser at different mediums or papers, things like that,
[31:43] Speaker 2: not just ran a paper, but paper and catch the soot.
[31:46] Speaker 2: And in that soot that you would catch is where
[31:49] Speaker 2: the carbon sixty molecule is. Or it's made in space,
[31:53] Speaker 2: So it's a meteorite and it's in the I don't
[31:56] Speaker 2: know what they call it a province, but I think
[31:58] Speaker 2: province are a county in Carella, Russia called Shunga, hence
[32:01] Speaker 2: the name shun Guite. So there is just the one location.
[32:05] Speaker 2: So if anybody's ordering from anywhere else, I would I
[32:08] Speaker 2: would definitely question it. It's not gonna be real shun guite,
[32:10] Speaker 2: that's for sure.
[32:12] Speaker 1: You would say there is a limited supply.
[32:15] Speaker 2: Ultimately, I wish I had the numbers up, but they
[32:18] Speaker 2: are on our website where I even give mine of
[32:21] Speaker 2: the mine, a tour of the mine, a video tour
[32:24] Speaker 2: of the photos and all the information. But it's something
[32:27] Speaker 2: like three hundred and fifty billion tons of it, so
[32:29] Speaker 2: it's when you're talking small, and it's on the surface
[32:33] Speaker 2: and below the surface. So they do mine it, but
[32:36] Speaker 2: it's a large amount. It's not gonna disappear anytime soon.
[32:40] Speaker 1: Before we move on from Shun Guide, is there anything
[32:44] Speaker 1: any aspects of your work, any aspects of Shun Guide
[32:47] Speaker 1: itself that we didn't cover that would be beneficial for
[32:51] Speaker 1: the audience to learn about.
[32:53] Speaker 2: I would definitely recommend it, like I had mentioned before,
[32:55] Speaker 2: using it on your plants and your gardens or your animals.
[32:59] Speaker 2: They have against scientists have that shun Guy powder or
[33:02] Speaker 2: used it in different forms on pick your type of
[33:05] Speaker 2: animal from putting it. I blend it with what it's
[33:08] Speaker 2: called dietamaceous earth or de a food grade version. So
[33:13] Speaker 2: we have a fifty to fifty blend there that you
[33:15] Speaker 2: can put on the coat of an animal, so if
[33:18] Speaker 2: it's a dog or cat or chicken, it doesn't matter,
[33:21] Speaker 2: and you can do that. You can put a small
[33:22] Speaker 2: amount in their food as well, because the dee is
[33:26] Speaker 2: food grade that we use. And then just the again
[33:29] Speaker 2: the enhancements on the longevity of the eggs that the
[33:33] Speaker 2: chickens produce. In talking about the chicken studies and there's
[33:36] Speaker 2: fish studies, I mean, I can go on and on
[33:38] Speaker 2: and really bore you, but it's all positive results that
[33:42] Speaker 2: shun Guy has had on the animals. But I would
[33:44] Speaker 2: have it in your environment because I also have what's
[33:48] Speaker 2: called shun Guite stickers. And it's not a volume thing
[33:51] Speaker 2: with shun Guy, so you don't have to have a
[33:52] Speaker 2: piece this large. You can have a pendance small as
[33:55] Speaker 2: what I'm wearing that's you know, maybe two inches long
[33:58] Speaker 2: or so. And how in your environment you would put
[34:01] Speaker 2: in the sticker. While I was bringing that up, so
[34:03] Speaker 2: we put a small amount of the cosmic shunk guite
[34:06] Speaker 2: or cosmic silver shunky powder, the blend with silver in
[34:09] Speaker 2: the middle. We kind of sandwich it in a sticker
[34:12] Speaker 2: that you can take these stickers and put them on
[34:14] Speaker 2: your cell phones. You can put them on your Wi
[34:15] Speaker 2: Fi routers, anything that communicates with bluetoooth or Wi Fi,
[34:20] Speaker 2: your game boxes, all of those different devices. The microphone
[34:24] Speaker 2: you're in front of now I have one of mine
[34:26] Speaker 2: that's kind of offscreen here, a piece of shung guite.
[34:28] Speaker 2: Because all these devices do emit or have a harmful,
[34:34] Speaker 2: non biocompatible frequency to them, and when you introduce shung
[34:38] Speaker 2: guite to it, it takes that edge off. It's not
[34:41] Speaker 2: as harmful, you don't get as physically damaged from it.
[34:45] Speaker 2: And then having shun guit in your room, because you know,
[34:48] Speaker 2: we sleep approximately a third of our lives if you
[34:51] Speaker 2: get eight hour sleep, and it would be very beneficial to,
[34:55] Speaker 2: for example, put the shun guite rubber pieces, So think
[34:58] Speaker 2: like a mouse patch, just really thin, a non toxic rubber,
[35:01] Speaker 2: but in it is the medium of shun guite. You
[35:05] Speaker 2: can put that under your mattress pad and your pillow,
[35:08] Speaker 2: or just a larger piece like I held up a
[35:10] Speaker 2: moment ago on your nightstand or things like that, and
[35:14] Speaker 2: it's gonna affect the energies in your space as well,
[35:17] Speaker 2: much like the shun Guy room I talked about. So
[35:19] Speaker 2: you don't just have to have shun Guy paint. You
[35:22] Speaker 2: can have the shun guite nuggets or sometimes they're carved.
[35:25] Speaker 2: We haven't shaped, like everything from elephants to angels, whatnot.
[35:28] Speaker 2: So they can be carved as well, but you do
[35:31] Speaker 2: want that in your space to affect those energies or
[35:34] Speaker 2: frequencies that are non compatible for us.
[35:38] Speaker 1: You mentioned putting them in your pillow case. Would you
[35:41] Speaker 1: say it's beneficial for sleep as well?
[35:44] Speaker 2: Oh, unbelievably beneficial. We have I don't know how many
[35:48] Speaker 2: pro athletes doing that and non athletes doing it, because
[35:52] Speaker 2: I also make what's called a shun guite I mask.
[35:55] Speaker 2: So we actually get a mold and we form it
[35:58] Speaker 2: with the shung Guy rubber in there and then put
[36:00] Speaker 2: it in a mask that you can sleep with at night.
[36:03] Speaker 2: And then the stories and the feedback from that are
[36:05] Speaker 2: nothing sort of miraculous again on everybody, from healing from
[36:09] Speaker 2: eye surgery, the cataracts issues, and you don't have to
[36:13] Speaker 2: have the eyemask just on your eyes. You can put
[36:16] Speaker 2: it on your arm if need be, you can, you
[36:18] Speaker 2: can use in different spots. But as far as sleeping, yeah,
[36:22] Speaker 2: shun guy so shun guy rubber in the shape of
[36:24] Speaker 2: an eye mask that you would want to sleep with.
[36:27] Speaker 2: And then that's talking about the physical healing aspects that
[36:31] Speaker 2: it has, which are almost instant and everybody pretty much
[36:34] Speaker 2: will feel them. But as far as the metaphysical aspects, well,
[36:39] Speaker 2: one example, my dreams and I had no idea I
[36:42] Speaker 2: haven't researched dreams either were turned color, and then I
[36:46] Speaker 2: would wake up in them. I would have my intuitive
[36:50] Speaker 2: or psychic abilities enhanced even in the non wake states.
[36:54] Speaker 2: So when I was dreaming to where, all of a
[36:56] Speaker 2: sudden I would wear the shun guy eye mask or
[36:57] Speaker 2: where my bracelet to bet or whatnot, and all of
[37:00] Speaker 2: a sudden I realized in the next morning, I'm like,
[37:02] Speaker 2: wait a minute, all of a sudden, it was full color,
[37:05] Speaker 2: I think high def color. And I would wake up
[37:09] Speaker 2: in my dreams, meaning be able to realize I was dreaming,
[37:13] Speaker 2: and then kind of think take charge or start direct
[37:15] Speaker 2: to them as well.
[37:16] Speaker 1: Lucid dreams.
[37:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what's know and without and then
[37:21] Speaker 2: I go as I am now about one hundred miles
[37:24] Speaker 2: an hour, so I'm a pretty fast I just kind
[37:26] Speaker 2: of go quickly. So I found out that it can
[37:30] Speaker 2: slow that down as well in a good way. So
[37:33] Speaker 2: think for meditation practices or things like that. It can
[37:37] Speaker 2: help again slow down or stop the the excess stuff
[37:41] Speaker 2: around us. The energy is the static all that stuff
[37:44] Speaker 2: to where you can focus more and just really enhance again.
[37:48] Speaker 2: I like the word intuition because everybody, again, I've done
[37:52] Speaker 2: over a thousand sessions, and because I can actually perceive
[37:55] Speaker 2: or see. I get to vision on pointing over here,
[37:57] Speaker 2: because that's there's a coucher where I do some sessions
[38:00] Speaker 2: where I started being able to see in my prison
[38:03] Speaker 2: days as a guard the biofield and I thought, oh,
[38:07] Speaker 2: geez am I going blinds or something wrong with my eyes.
[38:09] Speaker 2: Because I wasn't into all this. I didn't even know
[38:11] Speaker 2: the word aura at the time. So all of a
[38:13] Speaker 2: sudden I could see that and see a disruption in
[38:17] Speaker 2: somebody's biofield or aura, and then inevitably they talked about
[38:21] Speaker 2: yeah I have so let's say it was in the
[38:22] Speaker 2: tummy area. I could see that disruption or the frequencies
[38:26] Speaker 2: out of alignment would be the best way I could
[38:28] Speaker 2: describe it then, And I didn't tell anybody anything. I
[38:31] Speaker 2: an I'm thinking I was crazy or nothing. I kept quiet,
[38:34] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they say, yeah, my bad
[38:36] Speaker 2: back is really hurting me today, or my throat issue
[38:39] Speaker 2: or this, that and the other, and I started patching
[38:41] Speaker 2: it together, realizing, oh, wait a minute, we're not actually
[38:46] Speaker 2: physical beings. We're energy beings having a physical experience. Again,
[38:51] Speaker 2: I wasn't brought up in any of this, so I
[38:52] Speaker 2: had no idea and then started putting it together and
[38:55] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that makes sense. So I could see
[38:58] Speaker 2: the disruptions. So it enhanced me immensely as far as
[39:03] Speaker 2: the psychic abilities, as it's often termed to where I started,
[39:08] Speaker 2: I couldn't. There goes my ear right now, ringing, And
[39:11] Speaker 2: that's one of the psychic tells a lot of people
[39:14] Speaker 2: think tonightas with similar symptoms. Yeah, like your left ear rings.
[39:19] Speaker 2: Sometimes that's going to be a thing. And often that's
[39:23] Speaker 2: us picking up on other aspects of reality. As I
[39:26] Speaker 2: would put it, it's not that we're all going death
[39:28] Speaker 2: or anything like that. It's I mean, there's always a
[39:30] Speaker 2: percentage of that, you know, from your physical body. But
[39:34] Speaker 2: when I started working with Shungai, those would be kind
[39:37] Speaker 2: of my I'll make fun of it again, my psychic
[39:39] Speaker 2: sign language, my tells that would tell me, oh, there's
[39:43] Speaker 2: more to the story of whatever I'm thinking about, or
[39:45] Speaker 2: that person's telling me or something like that, and then
[39:48] Speaker 2: those subtle sensations would enhance be it odd ringing I'm
[39:54] Speaker 2: a time I just random ringing it being a specific
[39:56] Speaker 2: here for a certain time, or I'd feel a pulse
[39:59] Speaker 2: of energy go down my arm or my leg or something,
[40:02] Speaker 2: and that's what would initially open me up to you know,
[40:06] Speaker 2: look to the person in front of me, let's say
[40:07] Speaker 2: doing a session, either remote right person. I could tell
[40:11] Speaker 2: because I, let's say, for example, feel a pulse of
[40:13] Speaker 2: energy in my left knee, I would instantly know that
[40:17] Speaker 2: person had a left knee issue. And it just kept
[40:21] Speaker 2: enhancing from that aspect.
[40:24] Speaker 1: This connects with what I wanted to get into. I
[40:26] Speaker 1: wanted to shift into some high strangeness. I understand you
[40:31] Speaker 1: may have had experiences with either non human intelligences UFO
[40:36] Speaker 1: encounters and maybe even a little sasquatch encounter. Tell us
[40:40] Speaker 1: a little bit about some of those profound high strangeness
[40:44] Speaker 1: encounters that you've had.
[40:47] Speaker 2: Sure, and that's interesting stuff because my first one that
[40:50] Speaker 2: will call will loosely call UFOs and things like that
[40:54] Speaker 2: was in my army days. I was actually where was
[40:59] Speaker 2: I'm trying to the exact thing, but basically Mannheim, Germany,
[41:02] Speaker 2: because I was stationed there for almost four years, and
[41:05] Speaker 2: I was in a certain hotel alone. I was just
[41:09] Speaker 2: basically just gifted a short vacation just to kind of
[41:12] Speaker 2: summarize for getting certain duties done, you know well and
[41:17] Speaker 2: on time. And so it was called Burchess Gardens, Germany,
[41:21] Speaker 2: and I didn't know that that is also where Hitler's
[41:25] Speaker 2: Eagles Nest was located. I wasn't into the history or
[41:28] Speaker 2: anything like that as well. That's not random either. When
[41:31] Speaker 2: I found out when I got there, and this does
[41:33] Speaker 2: tie into the UFO aspect or the ets, extraterrestrials or aliens,
[41:38] Speaker 2: whatever term people use. I found out when I was
[41:41] Speaker 2: taken to that hotel and it was hours away from Manheim, Germany,
[41:45] Speaker 2: where I was located. There were only three of us
[41:48] Speaker 2: in this at least three hundred room hotel. I thought
[41:51] Speaker 2: that was pretty unusual. But yeah, I'm like, okay, and
[41:56] Speaker 2: we'll see what that's all about kind of thing. So
[41:59] Speaker 2: during an I have to kind of preface it with saying, again,
[42:03] Speaker 2: we're all intuitive already, and I'll have to say I'm
[42:07] Speaker 2: pretty sure the military knew something was going on, because
[42:10] Speaker 2: I'll jump forward. I decades later found out my dad
[42:15] Speaker 2: was an ex NSA spy. Oh, I knew my whole
[42:18] Speaker 2: life was he was a marine. He said, I was
[42:21] Speaker 2: a marine. I was a radio operator. And then when
[42:23] Speaker 2: he hit his eighties, and I'll get into his bigfoot
[42:25] Speaker 2: story too, he didn't even know what that word. He
[42:28] Speaker 2: finally tells me that, you know, well, Derek, blah blah blah,
[42:33] Speaker 2: I wasn't really just that I actually worked for the
[42:35] Speaker 2: NSA and they would fly us here, fly us there,
[42:38] Speaker 2: and put us in these hotel rooms with nobody else there,
[42:41] Speaker 2: and they would do again, I'll keep it vague, not
[42:43] Speaker 2: that he told me any deep dark secrets or anything
[42:45] Speaker 2: other than what he was doing. And he said, yeah,
[42:48] Speaker 2: we did all that kind of thing. Because and then
[42:50] Speaker 2: that reminded me. And this was after my military days.
[42:54] Speaker 2: I realized, We'll wait a minute, why was I treated?
[42:57] Speaker 2: And it would take a whole nother podcast to get
[42:58] Speaker 2: into everything, so I won't, but why I was treated
[43:02] Speaker 2: in such a way when I entered the military just
[43:04] Speaker 2: unbelievable exceptions for the defense listening. I had a first sergeant,
[43:10] Speaker 2: so they'll know a lot of these terms that from
[43:12] Speaker 2: the day I stepped off the plane into the basically
[43:16] Speaker 2: the barracks at my company. There, the first sergeant captain
[43:19] Speaker 2: literally told me to start calling him dad, which is
[43:22] Speaker 2: like what I was private, E nothing and E one.
[43:26] Speaker 2: So at the bottom of the totem pool crazy and
[43:28] Speaker 2: everybody's looking like what's going on? And the exceptions went
[43:32] Speaker 2: on from there. I was basically untouchable and had no
[43:34] Speaker 2: idea about any of this. I didn't I was just
[43:36] Speaker 2: scared like everybody else. I was twenty one at the time.
[43:39] Speaker 2: And again all of the podcasts a lot of this,
[43:41] Speaker 2: but the circumstances kept happening, and it ties us back
[43:44] Speaker 2: to the Burchess Gardens hotel stay. It was three soldiers
[43:49] Speaker 2: and then a full bird colonel it's called, which is
[43:53] Speaker 2: not typical either. He'd show up, have us come out
[43:56] Speaker 2: of our rooms and it was basically just think of vacation.
[43:59] Speaker 2: We were sent there for about a week just to
[44:01] Speaker 2: kind of take time off and enjoy ourselves, which was
[44:03] Speaker 2: unusual too. But he would lead us on these tours
[44:07] Speaker 2: of this hotel in burchess Gardens, Germany. He'd unlow he
[44:10] Speaker 2: had a key to this room staircase going under the
[44:15] Speaker 2: under the hotel and it opened up into an underground
[44:18] Speaker 2: Nazi railroad system and there were hospital there's no people down.
[44:23] Speaker 2: There was just a lot going on, and I realized time,
[44:26] Speaker 2: why is he staring at me a lot? Well, some
[44:30] Speaker 2: circles they call us sears or terms like that. Again,
[44:34] Speaker 2: I like the word perceive, but I can. The best
[44:37] Speaker 2: I can put is I can visually see frequencies off
[44:41] Speaker 2: of the normal spectrum, which is why I can see
[44:43] Speaker 2: auras and bio fields and entities. Believe it or not.
[44:47] Speaker 2: And we haven't gotten to that, but that was the thing.
[44:49] Speaker 2: So he would ask, and you know, how are you
[44:51] Speaker 2: feeling down here? You know, what are you seeing in this?
[44:53] Speaker 2: That and the other? So we'd go through these tours,
[44:56] Speaker 2: and then at some time in that about a week
[44:59] Speaker 2: that we were were there, I had my first experience
[45:03] Speaker 2: with what we would call UFOs or ets, And until
[45:07] Speaker 2: later I thought it was literally later the next day
[45:10] Speaker 2: I thought it was a dream. So basically, all of
[45:14] Speaker 2: a sudden I felt a shake and I was asleep,
[45:18] Speaker 2: physically asleep. I wasn't awake or anything. I wasn't in
[45:20] Speaker 2: between or anything. I felt a thought, I felt a shake,
[45:24] Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden I woke up and
[45:26] Speaker 2: in just like I don't know how many movies are
[45:28] Speaker 2: out there, I found myself floating in the room towards
[45:32] Speaker 2: a window, like laying down. So I was still prone,
[45:35] Speaker 2: like I'd been lifted out of my bed, go right
[45:38] Speaker 2: towards a window with three or four little entities and
[45:42] Speaker 2: I'll call them entities for lack of the but ets around,
[45:46] Speaker 2: not touching me. I was just floating toward.
[45:47] Speaker 1: Did they look like the classic graze?
[45:49] Speaker 2: They did? They did, Yep, absolutely, And I wasn't. I
[45:53] Speaker 2: wasn't into ets. I wasn't in the US, none of
[45:55] Speaker 2: that stuff. I was a tanker at the time, so
[45:57] Speaker 2: I drove an m one a one tank desert store
[46:00] Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. So again just doing
[46:03] Speaker 2: the soldier thing in my early twenties. Woke up, had
[46:06] Speaker 2: that experience, really excited, not in a good way, and angry,
[46:12] Speaker 2: I'll be blunt with you, angry and mad that that
[46:16] Speaker 2: was happening to me, and started struggling fighting, and then
[46:19] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that's it. No more to the
[46:22] Speaker 2: story until the morning I thought. I woke up, I'm like, wow,
[46:26] Speaker 2: that was really weird. That was such a vivid dream
[46:28] Speaker 2: in my head. And then I noticed that there was
[46:31] Speaker 2: a like a night standing like a heater. There's like,
[46:36] Speaker 2: I forget the exact name of it, but basically a
[46:38] Speaker 2: bunch of pipes and stuff is how they would heat
[46:40] Speaker 2: the rooms there. And there were items on it that
[46:44] Speaker 2: I remember during my struggle I had hit they were
[46:47] Speaker 2: on the ground, and I knew then that wait a minute, now,
[46:51] Speaker 2: if I just had this dream, this abduction dream, as
[46:54] Speaker 2: it would be termed, why would ten fifteen feet away
[46:57] Speaker 2: from me the objects? I remember when I was just flatling,
[46:59] Speaker 2: all of a sudden be knocked all over the floor. Wow.
[47:04] Speaker 2: And that was and I had to try and wrap
[47:05] Speaker 2: my head around that. I still questioned it. I'm like,
[47:07] Speaker 2: what the heck happened? You know, trying to wrap my
[47:09] Speaker 2: head around all that. And then if you fast forward.
[47:12] Speaker 2: So now I live in the Pacific Northwest, in Washington State,
[47:16] Speaker 2: where there's just mountains and hills everywhere. I'm a big
[47:19] Speaker 2: hiker guy, go out there, collect mushrooms, all sorts of stuff.
[47:22] Speaker 2: But I go deep in the woods on many of
[47:26] Speaker 2: these occasions, sometimes alone and sometimes with family members. I
[47:30] Speaker 2: would go out no more than two of us at
[47:31] Speaker 2: a time. I would go out there. And one example
[47:34] Speaker 2: is with my daughter when she was young, she's maybe
[47:36] Speaker 2: nine years old. We were I don't know, eight or
[47:38] Speaker 2: ten miles out, just collecting turkey tail mushrooms, joining ourselves,
[47:42] Speaker 2: no other people, because there's a certain area you would
[47:45] Speaker 2: park and the vehicle would have to be there if
[47:47] Speaker 2: they were there, and down the canyon. As we're walking,
[47:51] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my ears would start to ring,
[47:53] Speaker 2: and I'm like, uh, and I make fun of me.
[47:54] Speaker 2: I call it my spider senses. I'm something's going on.
[47:59] Speaker 2: And then I would just I'll just again, for lack
[48:01] Speaker 2: of a better way of saying it, feel that something's
[48:03] Speaker 2: coming to a certain area. So I'm like, well, let's
[48:05] Speaker 2: go over here. We'd stand on this little ledge of
[48:08] Speaker 2: the basically they think cliff of the candy under it,
[48:11] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, this VW bug sized so
[48:15] Speaker 2: small car sized orb was slowly floating through the canyon.
[48:20] Speaker 2: It had no shape other than round, and it wasn't
[48:23] Speaker 2: the brightest thing in the world, so it wasn't like
[48:25] Speaker 2: a big old light or anything. So it was hard
[48:29] Speaker 2: as all was solid or not, I couldn't really tell.
[48:31] Speaker 2: It was maybe one hundred yards away. It floated through
[48:34] Speaker 2: the canyon and stopped in front of us again, maybe
[48:38] Speaker 2: at this point two hundred feet off of the ledge
[48:41] Speaker 2: or trail we were on. All of a sudden, I
[48:43] Speaker 2: feel a pulse of energy and I didn't see any
[48:46] Speaker 2: ets waving at me through little portals or anything like that,
[48:49] Speaker 2: but it was straight up what you would maybe call
[48:51] Speaker 2: an orb or UFO, and I know that they were
[48:56] Speaker 2: aware of me because of where they stopped and then
[48:58] Speaker 2: the and I didn't see anything shoot out of this
[49:00] Speaker 2: craft or anything or I guess you can maybe call it,
[49:03] Speaker 2: but I sure felt it like pulse through me. Just
[49:07] Speaker 2: I'm telling you an example of there's not really a
[49:09] Speaker 2: wave explaining it, but a unique pulse of energy just
[49:13] Speaker 2: kind of go through me. And then I'm like, and
[49:15] Speaker 2: then that was the most exciting part. And then it
[49:18] Speaker 2: slowly just went away and we're both just looking at it,
[49:21] Speaker 2: going okay, what was that? And then maybe ten fifteen
[49:26] Speaker 2: minutes later down the trail, we just randomly happened to
[49:29] Speaker 2: be coming up to a clearing because it's just covered
[49:32] Speaker 2: with And this was for those again maybe localisteners. This
[49:36] Speaker 2: is on the top of a highway to up here,
[49:39] Speaker 2: just outside of gold Bar, where I used to live.
[49:40] Speaker 2: So if anybody wants to kind of reference where I'm
[49:42] Speaker 2: exactly at Iron Goat Trail I'll just put the specific one,
[49:46] Speaker 2: but miles out on that. And then we came to
[49:49] Speaker 2: the clearing and then all of a sudden, two fighter jets.
[49:53] Speaker 2: It was the most crazy thing in the world. I
[49:55] Speaker 2: hear them because we can hear them a distance off,
[49:57] Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I look up because
[49:59] Speaker 2: I know they're closed, so I'm like, that's like really loud.
[50:02] Speaker 2: They should be up a whole lot higher. They fly
[50:05] Speaker 2: over us, and they would not only flew over at
[50:09] Speaker 2: just tree top level, I mean just barely above missing
[50:12] Speaker 2: the trees formed an X directly above us. They were
[50:17] Speaker 2: both upside down and so low that I could see
[50:20] Speaker 2: the pilots in the cockpit. Wow. And that was just,
[50:23] Speaker 2: let me tell you, it wasn't random. It was meant
[50:26] Speaker 2: to grab my attention kind of thing. And that happened
[50:29] Speaker 2: probably six different times over I don't know two years.
[50:34] Speaker 2: When I'd go hiking. Actually i'd be made fun of
[50:36] Speaker 2: the like because I'd tell maybe my wife or you
[50:38] Speaker 2: know whoever, a friend of mine, I'm like, okay, well,
[50:41] Speaker 2: and they never believed me. The stories kind of thing,
[50:44] Speaker 2: my friends, I mean, because they thought, oh, let's see
[50:46] Speaker 2: picking up on now, and it would happen just multiple times.
[50:49] Speaker 2: If I go deep in the woods to where a
[50:52] Speaker 2: helicopter would show up, usually it's the jets. But what
[50:56] Speaker 2: did get captured on video at well, it was Washington
[51:00] Speaker 2: State Reformatory in Monroe, Washington. I was a graveyard officer,
[51:04] Speaker 2: and at this point in my career, I was the
[51:06] Speaker 2: perimeter patrol. So I was in the car on the outside,
[51:09] Speaker 2: driving outside the gate, making sure nobody broke in or out.
[51:13] Speaker 2: And it was two three in the morning. I heard
[51:17] Speaker 2: all of a sudden helicopters and I knew it was
[51:19] Speaker 2: clear there were helicopters, and you're not supposed to fly
[51:22] Speaker 2: over prisons for a lot of reasons. It's just a
[51:25] Speaker 2: no fly zone like military installations unless you're a military
[51:29] Speaker 2: or something. That just wasn't a thing. And it was
[51:31] Speaker 2: my job. And this was still by now cell phone days,
[51:34] Speaker 2: so I had a cell phone and the perimeter cameras
[51:37] Speaker 2: all caught it. But basically I saw another orb. It
[51:41] Speaker 2: was just before the helicopter showed up, just off and
[51:44] Speaker 2: it wasn't big. It couldn't have been larger than maybe me,
[51:47] Speaker 2: just kind of moving through and it would look like
[51:49] Speaker 2: a typical glowing orb. So a UFO again, nothing too exciting.
[51:54] Speaker 2: Didn't hit me with that energy or anything at this time.
[51:58] Speaker 2: But within minutes I heard the helicop and I didn't
[52:01] Speaker 2: know it was a thing at the time, but I
[52:03] Speaker 2: heard later in different podcasts and shows about silent helicopters.
[52:07] Speaker 2: Let me tell you they're real, because there were three
[52:10] Speaker 2: helicopters that were flying up and down over the hills
[52:14] Speaker 2: and trees, staying as low to the ground as they
[52:16] Speaker 2: could direct and I've done via directly over my vehicle.
[52:20] Speaker 2: And there were three of them. But what was odd?
[52:22] Speaker 2: And they're in the line. The middle one had no markings.
[52:25] Speaker 2: The other ones I could tell there's Blackhawk helicopters. A'm
[52:28] Speaker 2: ex military guy. I knew what I was looking at,
[52:30] Speaker 2: and they were just above the perimeter towers. We'd have
[52:34] Speaker 2: towers that people could man during the day, but they're
[52:36] Speaker 2: nobody in them at nights. So I was that guy,
[52:39] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the helicopter comes over and
[52:41] Speaker 2: I realized, well, that's unusual. They shouldn't be flying here.
[52:43] Speaker 2: I make a radio call tenant announce it, you know,
[52:47] Speaker 2: unauthorized aircraft over the perimeter, blah blah blah, and then
[52:51] Speaker 2: I realized, wait a minute, the second one is making
[52:55] Speaker 2: no sound. There was nothing on it, no markings either.
[52:59] Speaker 2: I see there was a I'm assuming a pilot because
[53:02] Speaker 2: it was a full moon and the moon was behind them,
[53:04] Speaker 2: so I could see through. They were really low see
[53:06] Speaker 2: through the cockpit, so I saw what looked like a
[53:08] Speaker 2: pilot to me ahead and figure look like a human.
[53:12] Speaker 2: But that helicopter was completely silent, and that just really
[53:15] Speaker 2: blew my mind. And that was and then I probably
[53:17] Speaker 2: heard on the show like Coast to Coast or something
[53:19] Speaker 2: like that later they start talking about I'm like, I
[53:22] Speaker 2: know that's a thing. It absolutely is, because I actually
[53:25] Speaker 2: recorded it. Yeah, I was basically disregarded by the The
[53:30] Speaker 2: lieutenant who I called at the time inside the prison said,
[53:33] Speaker 2: you know, not it in your log book and start
[53:36] Speaker 2: permanent patrol again. He didn't seem to care at all,
[53:39] Speaker 2: So it kind of just left it there. Yeah, that
[53:42] Speaker 2: was just another one of the songs. I've had a
[53:44] Speaker 2: lot of them.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Your experience of being floated by these little gray beings
[53:52] Speaker 1: is a story that I've heard multiple times from many experiencers.
[53:58] Speaker 1: This happens too often for it just to be a
[54:01] Speaker 1: collective hallucination. Some kind of dreams that people are having.
[54:07] Speaker 1: There's so much more to the experience, and it seems
[54:09] Speaker 1: to be multi layered. Do you have any theories or
[54:14] Speaker 1: thoughts about the extraterrestrial phenomenon if they are indeed physical
[54:19] Speaker 1: beings from different planets or is it an inter dimensional phenomena?
[54:24] Speaker 1: Is it our consciousness or the beings Aggrigre's part of us?
[54:28] Speaker 1: Any theories about it?
[54:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of input on that, especially
[54:33] Speaker 2: after all of my hypnosis sessions where I've done past
[54:36] Speaker 2: life regressions and things. But tying it to the experience
[54:40] Speaker 2: I had there, I left out the part where I
[54:43] Speaker 2: actually had an implant in my wrist. I found probably
[54:46] Speaker 2: a week later, just a small black object that I
[54:49] Speaker 2: could feel it in the It was really hard and
[54:52] Speaker 2: it was so close to the skin that I could
[54:53] Speaker 2: eventually just kind of because it kept bugging me, so
[54:55] Speaker 2: I didn't mess with it, and you know, you start
[54:57] Speaker 2: get a week spot in your skin. I took it out.
[55:00] Speaker 2: I wasn't stamped with anything and didn't have any words
[55:02] Speaker 2: on it or anything, but it was not part of me,
[55:05] Speaker 2: and I ended up just throwing it out or something,
[55:06] Speaker 2: not giving it too much thought because back in those days,
[55:09] Speaker 2: which would have been oh, geez, nineteen ninety one, ninety two,
[55:13] Speaker 2: ninety three or something like that. I wasn't in all this.
[55:16] Speaker 2: I wasn't. You know. It was pre internet that we
[55:19] Speaker 2: know is internet now, so I didn't have a way
[55:21] Speaker 2: of researching about that. Well that's really unusual. But I'll
[55:24] Speaker 2: tell you the perception I got, or the feeling or
[55:28] Speaker 2: the knowing was they were tied to us. So these
[55:32] Speaker 2: in that time, those little gray guys were tied to
[55:35] Speaker 2: the US military. Somehow there was something going on. It
[55:38] Speaker 2: wasn't random. I was there. They weren't little tiny soldiers
[55:41] Speaker 2: and outfits or anything like that. They were physical beings. Now,
[55:45] Speaker 2: whether we created them or I don't know. There was
[55:49] Speaker 2: something to that though, but they were tied to us.
[55:52] Speaker 2: But since then, so years later, when I actually got
[55:55] Speaker 2: introduced to Shun Guide, like I mentioned, that's when my
[55:58] Speaker 2: sight or scene capabilities turned on. So I can see
[56:03] Speaker 2: it again off frequency. I use it term entities because
[56:07] Speaker 2: again we're all souls or spirits having a physical experience
[56:10] Speaker 2: in a vehicle called a body. That's just the way
[56:13] Speaker 2: I see it. Since I've been able to do this stuff,
[56:15] Speaker 2: I communicate and I see these entities. Now, be it
[56:19] Speaker 2: again what somebody says their dead grandpa, brother, best friend,
[56:22] Speaker 2: or blah blah blah. They're not dead. We don't remember.
[56:26] Speaker 2: This is just my perspective. I don't change anybody's belief
[56:28] Speaker 2: system or anything. I'm not here for that. From my perspective,
[56:32] Speaker 2: which has widened a lot over the years and sessions,
[56:35] Speaker 2: and I get to actually see they don't go anywhere.
[56:38] Speaker 2: They're there, And then I've seen what we call ets
[56:44] Speaker 2: manifest So the best way I could wrap my hand
[56:47] Speaker 2: around it is they're on a different density, not a
[56:50] Speaker 2: different dimension, because that would be a spatial thing, but
[56:53] Speaker 2: a different And when I describe to clients when they ask,
[56:56] Speaker 2: think of it like a radio channel. So if I
[56:58] Speaker 2: turn on a radio here in my office, I can
[57:00] Speaker 2: turn it this way, I'm gonna get country music, turn
[57:02] Speaker 2: it the other way, I'll get blues, disco, rap, blah
[57:04] Speaker 2: blah blah. They're all here all the time. It's just
[57:07] Speaker 2: where your focus is. So the entities or the ets
[57:12] Speaker 2: or spirits, they're on a different density that some of
[57:17] Speaker 2: us haven't enhanced access or perception of. And then we
[57:22] Speaker 2: get to see them, and I'll tell you during sessions.
[57:26] Speaker 2: I know that everybody's intuitive because everybody doesn't get to
[57:30] Speaker 2: see things like I do, but they sure perceive them. So,
[57:34] Speaker 2: for example, I'll do a session and it doesn't matter
[57:36] Speaker 2: if it's remote on zoom or in person, and I'll
[57:39] Speaker 2: see the person's relative, they're dead relative behind them, and
[57:43] Speaker 2: I'll already know that they want to talk to grandma,
[57:45] Speaker 2: grandpa or dad or whomever's passed. I'm like, okay, well
[57:48] Speaker 2: there's a male here, he's such and such and such,
[57:51] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they go, what was that?
[57:53] Speaker 2: And so I could see the entity against the terminus,
[57:56] Speaker 2: maybe put his hand on their shoulder or something, and
[57:59] Speaker 2: they would feel it. They'd spin their head around and
[58:01] Speaker 2: look at it, and they wouldn't see anything, but they'd
[58:03] Speaker 2: sure physically feel it. So I know that these beings
[58:07] Speaker 2: or entities from whichever densities they're on, can interact to
[58:12] Speaker 2: one degree or another with us here. So it's kind
[58:15] Speaker 2: of everything there. You know, it's not per se ghosts.
[58:19] Speaker 2: I don't even like that term, but they are beings
[58:22] Speaker 2: and we can interact with an et ones as well.
[58:25] Speaker 1: Depending on who you speak with, what psychic, what researcher,
[58:30] Speaker 1: they will tell you different possibilities as it relates to
[58:34] Speaker 1: communication with deceased loved ones. I did an episode recently.
[58:41] Speaker 1: The Gentleman I had on questioned the possibility of even
[58:46] Speaker 1: being able to do that because he believes that most
[58:50] Speaker 1: of the time what comes through isn't that person. It's
[58:54] Speaker 1: either a residual energy, a trickster, something that is taking
[58:59] Speaker 1: advantage of the communication situation. But he had some interesting
[59:04] Speaker 1: thoughts behind it. Do you have any thoughts behind the
[59:08] Speaker 1: possibility of speaking with deceased grandmother or is it something
[59:12] Speaker 1: else I do?
[59:14] Speaker 2: And I do it almost on a daily basis with
[59:16] Speaker 2: my sessions. I know they can communicate and there's nothing
[59:19] Speaker 2: special I have to do. I don't And I'm not
[59:23] Speaker 2: saying meditation is better or anything like that, because it's actually
[59:25] Speaker 2: probably good, but I don't even have to slow down
[59:27] Speaker 2: enough to do that. I'll just say telepathy would be
[59:30] Speaker 2: the best terms that I've heard. It's literally just a
[59:34] Speaker 2: thought in your head and you can directly communicate with
[59:38] Speaker 2: deceased loved ones. Now, adding on to what you said, Yes,
[59:41] Speaker 2: I have come across other not so good beings or
[59:46] Speaker 2: entities that are on other densities or channels like I
[59:50] Speaker 2: like to put it around, so some of the bad guys,
[59:53] Speaker 2: so there is truth to that as well, But it's
[59:56] Speaker 2: really literally a thought in your head. So if I'm
[59:59] Speaker 2: doing the same, I'm not. Sometimes I'll speak out loud
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: for the departed loved one so the client can here
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: be part of the three way conversation and they know
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: what's actually going on and then ask me questions. But
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: I don't have to. I can just literally have the
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: thought in my head and then I get what would
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: be termed the download instantly as well. So it's media communication.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: Language means nothing. So I've had people to speak different
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: languages coming in and usually nowadays because everything's on your
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: phone where you can translate, and I have no idea
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: what the Russian would be. The last one I did,
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: I'd have to have my phone on there and translate
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: saying to that blah blah blah. But I would hear
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: it back in English from their deceased or departed loved
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: one because they literally don't go anywhere. I mean, it's
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: just that direct for I mean, I've done no research
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: on this, so I have no pre loading. All of
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: a sudden, again, after the introduction of shun Gai, and
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: then me being open to it because I'm just a
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: very logical, direct person, like, well, if it's this, it's that,
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: and if I've done it once, so that means I
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: can do it again. And that's just the way I
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: go at it. And then coming from that mindset or
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: way of being, it gets stronger. And then there's also
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: I'll tell you an emotional aspect. Often our emotions aren't
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: thought about enough, meaning the state of your emotions at
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: the time can't affect the channel or the entities you
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: can tune into. I found that a thing too, So
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: I've had clients that get all worked up and they go, well,
[1:01:25] Speaker 2: the demons are following me, they're doing this, that and
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: the other. And again I'm being vague for a reason.
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: I can tune in to what their thoughts are and
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: what channels they're focusing on. And I have seen entities
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: they literally have tried to do me. Well, they've done
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: physical harm to me. From a metaphysical again, I have
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: to sometimes invent ways of saying this because I just
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: don't know how. But from the metaphysical aspect, so after
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: sessions I will remove I'll just say the bad guys
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: because I can do that as well. It's gonna sound corny,
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: but love energy is a thing, and just knowing that
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: that's a thing with confidence makes it so much stronger.
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: So I would disengage that I'll just again, for lack
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: of a better term, they're not so good entities from
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: these people. And then, and I've had it happen in
[1:02:13] Speaker 2: front of my wife and others, to where all of
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: a sudden, I could feel one literally just grab my
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: arm and start trying to break it all from the
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: metaphysical realm, but in front of everybody and a camera,
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: because I had cameras everywhere. All of a sudden my arm,
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: I would see something starting to protrude from it. Wouldn't
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: didn't get to the point of breaking my skin, but
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: started coming out, pushing out of my skin while I'm
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: sitting there, and I'm pretty much screaming in physical realm
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: as well, because it was painful, and I had to
[1:02:39] Speaker 2: get enough in my head to realize that, Okay, I
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: just need to calm down, use love energy and then
[1:02:46] Speaker 2: see it gone and just start doing my mindset with
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: thoughts to affect it, to disengage from that channel or
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: density that entity was on. And it works and then
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: on the inverse, you can do it positively. Just decide
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: that you're gonna again. I know it sounds corny to some,
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: but I only know the term love energy. But that's
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: a real thing. There's different ways of saying that, but
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: just knowing it that is positive affects your channel, So
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: that's how I would use it. Connect or disconnect in
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: different ways.
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: Can you immediately perceive if a being is on a
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: higher lower energy level, meaning malevolent or benevolent?
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I'm glad you use those terms. So
[1:03:31] Speaker 2: it's not and I know you didn't mean it exactly
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: this way, but higher or lower, it's yeah, a different channel,
[1:03:36] Speaker 2: and I can absolutely immediately perceive that. It's kind of
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: like having an egg put in front of you and
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: then another egg and one is rotten. Well, you don't
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: have to taste the egg to know that you're perceiving
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: it through your usually sense of smell or something like
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: that in the egg description, but in the metaphysical senses
[1:03:55] Speaker 2: that are now heightened on me and others can do
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: it too. I'm not the only one. Every one of
[1:03:59] Speaker 2: us are intuitive and it can be enhanced. I am
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: not extra special. I'm just more open to realizing it's
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: a thing. So yes, I would pick up on whether
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: it was again to make fun of it, a bad
[1:04:11] Speaker 2: guy or a good guy entity trying to pick up
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: on it, or if there's one nearby tuned into me.
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. So I've gone to different
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: locations that people would say or haunted with ghosts or this,
[1:04:24] Speaker 2: that and the other, because I could see I could
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: actually see the entities and they would look like a
[1:04:30] Speaker 2: loosely a ghost or a spirit form that you may
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: see in a movie so hazy. They're not HD three
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: D in my vision, but they're absolutely there to where
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: I can see them. I'll tell you what they're wearing.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: That if they're wearing necklaces, that's usually a big thing
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: for the clients to go, well, tell me what they
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: look like, and they don't tell me anything, and all
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: of a sudden, I say, well, she's shaken this necklace
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: at me or something. Let's say if it was a
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: grandma that wore a bunch of necklaces to get my
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: attention to reference a certain necklace or whatever kind of thing.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: But I would would always be able to tell if
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: they were good or bad. And that was painfully obvious.
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: On the emotion senses, it would be an instant feeling,
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: so I would know right away and then whether to
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: kind of block them out or just kind of blast
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: them with love energy to kind of have fun with
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: it and then disengage from that. So yeah, it's just
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: the whole gambit there.
[1:05:23] Speaker 1: Last few minutes. I'd love to hear a bit about
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: your sasquatch encounter and any thoughts or insights about the
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: being itself.
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: A great way of putting it too again tying it
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: back into that. Yeah, I'd heard about bigfoot or sasquatch
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: through the years on different shows, but wasn't my thing.
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: I was, now you know, going on bigfoot hunts or
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: anything like that. But my first encounter was when I
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: was heading to I was an officer at the time,
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: a correction officer. Again, well i'll give specifics. I lived
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: in gold Bar, Washington, was driving down Highway too towards Monroe, Washington,
[1:05:58] Speaker 2: so I know about thirty minute drive, just a really
[1:06:02] Speaker 2: desolate highway, just woods everywhere, and there was maybe I
[1:06:07] Speaker 2: don't know, a half dozen vehicles behind me on the
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: road because it was before my graveyard shift. So we're
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: looking at I don't know, seven eight at night or so,
[1:06:15] Speaker 2: because we'd start a little bit earlier, and all of
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: a sudden I would look in front of me, and
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I said, it was, oh, maybe
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: one hundred yards, so not real far. And we're driving
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: fifty five sixty miles an hour, so closing in fast.
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: I saw a figure cross from it would be the
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: south to the north side of the highway, and I thought, well,
[1:06:35] Speaker 2: that's not really It just happened to split second. I thought, well,
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: that's not real smart running across a highway. And then
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: I realized, wait a minute, this thing is I was
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: still approaching it fifty five sixty miles an hour, so
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: gaining distance or shortening the distance. Quickly. I realized it
[1:06:50] Speaker 2: wasn't a person, because if it was a person, they were,
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: you know, eight nine ten feet tall. And I could
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: tell that again from the people who maybe know the area.
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: There's a little tiny steeple or a little church. It
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: can maybe fit six people in it. It's kind of
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: like a last stop for prayers before you head up
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: in deeper into the mountains to do your hikes. For
[1:07:10] Speaker 2: those that do that, there was a little tiny one
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: and so I had that as a reference. Is why
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: I'm bringing it up, because this entity or Bigfoot was
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: a couple of feet above that. And it's not the
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: most exciting story, but that first encounter, it ran across
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: the highway in like three strides, and it was across
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: the highway and by that time and I thought, what
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: am I just seeing something? What's going on? I looked
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: at my rear view mirror and I was the lead car.
[1:07:37] Speaker 2: I see cars pulling over, jumping out, so I knew
[1:07:40] Speaker 2: everybody was seeing this. And he bade you didn't turn
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: around and acknowledge us the Bigfoot at all. He just
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: walked across the highway, went behind that little steeple into
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: a field, and then just off into the mountains there.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: And that was my first experience. And I'm glad there
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: were the other vehicles and witnesses because I'd probably written
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: it off as you know, I just see. Was that
[1:08:01] Speaker 2: really that I don't know kind of thing? But it was.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: And this ties back to what I mentioned earlier about
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: my dad. He owned forty four acres in Fort Jones, California,
[1:08:12] Speaker 2: so real wooded area. He's an old goal miner gold
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: prospector as well, and he's in his eighties at this time,
[1:08:19] Speaker 2: so he's retired. Nobody else on the land, and there
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: were logging roads on this property, and he was so
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: old that he didn't even know what a big for
[1:08:26] Speaker 2: the Sasquatch was because he told me a story when
[1:08:29] Speaker 2: he came up and visited me and I told him
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: about mine. He said, well, Derek, I never told anybody.
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: So it's just a little old man just in his
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: late eighties going to this story. After he told me
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: about the NSA stuff, he says, well, on my property,
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: and he goes into story about how he was just
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: walking alone out on his now abandoned logging roads, turned
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: a corner and he starts to describe me. Says, Derek,
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: I looked up and I saw this thing. He didn't
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: say big for the Sasquatch. He didn't know those words.
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: He had no idea about him. And he starts describing
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: this nine foot tall bigfoot. He was saying was standing
[1:09:05] Speaker 2: on his feet looking at him. And again he was
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: just describing it physically because he didn't have a name
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: for it. And I said, well, Dad, what was it doing?
[1:09:12] Speaker 2: He says, it was just standing there picking berries. He
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: was just eating berries. And it was maybe fifty feet
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: so around the corner it was a bam. He was
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: right up on it, like fifty feet, he said. And
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: he was an ultra runner, a marathon runner. Ultra runner
[1:09:24] Speaker 2: means he'd run races there were one hundred miles plus,
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: so he really knows distances and things like that, so
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: he knew and he starts to describe it. I said, well,
[1:09:33] Speaker 2: tell me what it look like before I said anything
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: to him about what it was. I said, describe it.
[1:09:38] Speaker 2: And he goes, well, there's maybe nine foot tall. I
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: could tell because that branch right there was sitting here
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: and he's just kind of ocd that which he was
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: describing it, just analytically teld me about it covered with fur.
[1:09:48] Speaker 2: I said, was it down on the ground. He says, no,
[1:09:50] Speaker 2: it was standing up just like me. I said, what
[1:09:52] Speaker 2: did it do? And then he told me he said, well,
[1:09:56] Speaker 2: it saw me right away my dad when he turned
[1:09:59] Speaker 2: the corner. And they just stood there and stared at
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: each other for almost a complete minute, just looking at
[1:10:04] Speaker 2: each other. Nothing more exciting. And I said then what
[1:10:08] Speaker 2: he goes, it just turned to the right, and he says,
[1:10:11] Speaker 2: right over here and shows me just leapt over the
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: bushes and ran off in the forest, and then he
[1:10:15] Speaker 2: goes into some speel about well, I don't know what
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: it was, but I guess it could live off the
[1:10:19] Speaker 2: fish out here, you know. He just starts to analyze
[1:10:22] Speaker 2: it that way. I'm like, I'm like, Dad, it was
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: a bigfoot. He's and he looks at me and goes,
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: it had big feet. I'm like, no, they're called bigfoot
[1:10:32] Speaker 2: kind of thing or sasquad. He had no idea. It
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: wasn't in his reality. You know, you didn't even using
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: the internet, nothing like that. And I tell him about it,
[1:10:41] Speaker 2: and then he just goes into the story again about well,
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: I guess something that big could survive and you might
[1:10:45] Speaker 2: hear a train go by. Sorry about that, but again
[1:10:48] Speaker 2: it goes into the story telling me about it. And
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: then that was it as well. It basically leapt over
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: the bushes and ran off from him, and with no
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: belief system, not knowing that was a thing whatsoever. That
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: was pretty interesting to hear him after hearing about all
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: his other stories as well. And then the other sightings
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: I've had are well, they were bigfeet because where I was,
[1:11:08] Speaker 2: there's nothing else out there. I knew there weren't people
[1:11:11] Speaker 2: throwing things down on the trail in front of us.
[1:11:13] Speaker 2: One time I was with my daughter again and we
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: were up on a trail Mount Baker again for those
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: that are here local so Highway twenty. I came up
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: on a trail that nobody was on because there's a
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: set parking area and you have to drive far enough
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: you're not walking out there, so we knew nobody was
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: up there. Went up the trail and I was already
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: in my I woll say enhanced intuition at the time,
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: so I was already psychic or enhanced that sense, and
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: I was like, what is that? But I kept seeing
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: the collar blue And then all of a sudden we
[1:11:43] Speaker 2: walked back down the trail and it's just a little
[1:11:45] Speaker 2: narrow trail, and on the middle of the trail there
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: was a little tiny, would look like a little Christmas
[1:11:49] Speaker 2: tree because we' right here in the woods, so just
[1:11:50] Speaker 2: a baby tree, and there was a bracelet hung on
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: it from and it was so I think a gift
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: kind of thing because previously, and it was there when
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: we passed, because we would have had to step over
[1:12:02] Speaker 2: it to get it, so it wasn't there before we passed.
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: It was there when we came back, and then I
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: realized when I picked it up, because then I had
[1:12:08] Speaker 2: the download that it was a gift sort of thing
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: to get there kind of quickly, but I had for
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: the months beforehand out at Monte Cristo. Again, I'm trying
[1:12:17] Speaker 2: to be specific for maybe some locals that are listening
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: an old a band in gold Town of mine, I
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: would hike out there and gift, not seeing the Sasquatch
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: initially or anything like that, I would put an apple there,
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: different fruits and things in a spot, you know, not going, okay,
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: I some raccoon gonna come grab it or something like that,
[1:12:35] Speaker 2: you know, not worried about it if they did. But
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: in my mind and intention, I was gifting to the Sasquatch.
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: And on one occasion, so you talk about antiteaser beans
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: with bigfoots, I'll tell you I know at least some
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: of them can go what we would call invisible, because
[1:12:52] Speaker 2: I picked up on a couple of them being out there,
[1:12:54] Speaker 2: which is what led me, oh, this is a spot
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: to leave the gift for him. And I was there
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: with another person at the time, and all of a
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: sudden and there was a stone cold, non windy day,
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: nothing trees blown or anything like that over where I
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: was referenced him. I said, well, I know there's a
[1:13:08] Speaker 2: couple over here. I couldn't see him visually at all.
[1:13:11] Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, a couple of branches just
[1:13:14] Speaker 2: start getting pulled down right exactly where already knew they were.
[1:13:17] Speaker 2: At kind of thing too, and so like an acknowledgment
[1:13:21] Speaker 2: that yes, we were here and we're gonna i'd leave
[1:13:23] Speaker 2: little crystals as well, maybe a marble something like that.
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: I don't leave M and m's or anything harmful, but
[1:13:31] Speaker 2: you know, it was fruit and rocks and crystals and stuff.
[1:13:34] Speaker 2: So that was pretty neat to have another person, a
[1:13:36] Speaker 2: total non believer in any of this. We were just
[1:13:38] Speaker 2: out hiking. He had no idea. I had some, you know,
[1:13:40] Speaker 2: fruit and crystals my backpack. I was just gonna set
[1:13:42] Speaker 2: on an old tree stump out there, and all of
[1:13:44] Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm like, well, I'm picking up on something
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: over here, And then again the branches come. It wasn't
[1:13:48] Speaker 2: just a little vague thing like a bird just flew
[1:13:50] Speaker 2: off it. They were yanked down hard, and it was
[1:13:53] Speaker 2: really right where already knew they were. But I couldn't
[1:13:56] Speaker 2: see him. So then in essence, they were you know,
[1:13:59] Speaker 2: off density, off our frequency or something like that.
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: They may be a physical being that has the ability
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: to shift into different densities.
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And that's a great way of putting
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: it is and I won't make this story long for time,
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: but on other hikes I know they would be nearest
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: because I would actually smell them when they were physical,
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: and it was not a great smell, and then all
[1:14:21] Speaker 2: of a sudden they would what we would call teleport
[1:14:24] Speaker 2: to one hundred yards up there up and I would
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: have heard it, because if there's some nine foot thing
[1:14:28] Speaker 2: running through the woods where I'm at, you're going to
[1:14:30] Speaker 2: hit every stick in the row, You're gonna knock down
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: tree branch. You're not going to hide from that. But
[1:14:35] Speaker 2: they would again, for lack of a better term, teleport
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: one hundred of year so yards up. Wow. And also
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: something else would fly out of the woods or left
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: or something or other. So that's the best I could
[1:14:45] Speaker 2: wrap my head around is yes, they can change their
[1:14:47] Speaker 2: density to go I guess interdimensional for I don't know,
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: in a better way of putting it, and then transfer
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: themselves and go invisible. So I know that's a thing.
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: This is such a fascinating topic. We're definitely gonna have
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: to have you back go deeper into some of these
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: experiences and insights. Derek, thank you so much. Before I
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