# FKN Classics Double Feature! Tim Kelly - Final Act | Samantha Burnell - Dark Dentistry

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 19 Jul 2026, 2 h 17 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
[0:06] Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show, Tim Kelly.
[0:09] Speaker 1: He is founder of Polytope Press and author of Natural Healing,
[0:13] Speaker 1: Self Empowerment, Optiflex, Hidden History of Humanity, and multiple novels.
[0:19] Speaker 1: His company is focused on actualizing every aspect of an
[0:24] Speaker 1: optimal civilization. Tim, welcome back.
[0:27] Speaker 2: How you doing?
[0:29] Speaker 3: I am always learning? How about yourself?
[0:31] Speaker 2: Same here man, and it's great to have you back.
[0:33] Speaker 1: I enjoyed our previous discussions before we covered your research
[0:38] Speaker 1: into our hidden history in the human and possible non
[0:42] Speaker 1: human hierarchy that has always held power and attempted to
[0:46] Speaker 1: maintain power and control really ever since documented history and
[0:52] Speaker 1: most likely long before that as well, as we also
[0:55] Speaker 1: talked about some ancient healing modalities in medicine. And today
[1:00] Speaker 1: you're going to share your six part plan to defeat
[1:03] Speaker 1: the cabal called opt out and optimally out design. And
[1:08] Speaker 1: this is something like I told you before, I think
[1:11] Speaker 1: everyone listening can get behind this. Before we get into this,
[1:16] Speaker 1: remind the audience just a little bit about yourself and
[1:19] Speaker 1: let them know where they can find your work.
[1:22] Speaker 3: Hey, well, I began my career as a writer from
[1:25] Speaker 3: the time I was a very little kid. I loved
[1:26] Speaker 3: writing and did well in school, won several awards, and
[1:29] Speaker 3: then after I left school, I had a number of
[1:31] Speaker 3: accomplishments which do include the creation of a period the
[1:36] Speaker 3: periodic Table of the Elements, a new theory of the
[1:38] Speaker 3: origins of species, and a wide variety of innovations in technology,
[1:42] Speaker 3: some of which we'll be talking a little bit about today,
[1:45] Speaker 3: and of course doing a great deal of writing, including
[1:49] Speaker 3: more than twenty different pieces of writing. And some of
[1:52] Speaker 3: the books that are included would be Natural Healing, Self Empowerment,
[1:56] Speaker 3: The Math Wizard, Hidden History of Humanity, and several other
[1:59] Speaker 3: books that may be mentioned in the course of today's podcast.
[2:03] Speaker 2: Excellent, great introduction.
[2:05] Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about before we get too
[2:08] Speaker 1: deep into your plan, thoughts on some recent events and
[2:12] Speaker 1: where we're headed collectively, how you see things unfolding based
[2:17] Speaker 1: on the portrayal from the media and the ruling class
[2:22] Speaker 1: of where we're headed versus where we actually are.
[2:26] Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on our current state here?
[2:29] Speaker 3: So I know there's been a lot of talk about
[2:32] Speaker 3: Trump's reference to a golden age. I've also seen a
[2:35] Speaker 3: number of rebels make reference to the Golden Age being
[2:39] Speaker 3: the Golden Age of Saturn, which is somewhat interesting because
[2:42] Speaker 3: that goes back to ancient times. As I mentioned in
[2:45] Speaker 3: Hidden History of Humanity, the references to Saturn are often
[2:49] Speaker 3: references to Kronos, which are often references to the Onanaki
[2:53] Speaker 3: and l This gets back to a whole different set
[2:56] Speaker 3: of concepts from ancient times up to the present. But
[2:59] Speaker 3: when you look at the actions and the actions do
[3:02] Speaker 3: speak louder than words, we see a strong surge towards
[3:06] Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, and we also see an unrelenting move in
[3:11] Speaker 3: the direction of weather warfare. So these two elements combined,
[3:16] Speaker 3: let me just pause here for a second and ask you,
[3:18] Speaker 3: have you done podcasts on the fog?
[3:21] Speaker 2: I have not. I've heard a lot about it.
[3:23] Speaker 1: I've talked to a few people, heard some theories, but
[3:25] Speaker 1: I've never really covered it yet.
[3:27] Speaker 3: Okay, So with events like the fog occurring, we do
[3:32] Speaker 3: have a very sinister situation developing here that we have
[3:36] Speaker 3: to be aware of what this agenda is, which is
[3:39] Speaker 3: to move in the direction of what is called synth bio.
[3:42] Speaker 3: So apparently Maria Zee was doing a show on synth
[3:45] Speaker 3: bio and said that when she types synth bio. Google
[3:48] Speaker 3: recognizes it as a phrase already, even though this is
[3:51] Speaker 3: a relatively new concept. This is synthetic biology, the merging
[3:55] Speaker 3: of machines and biology to create a new species, referred
[4:00] Speaker 3: to that species as homobore genesis. Some people say that
[4:03] Speaker 3: this is inevitable, that there's nothing that we can do
[4:05] Speaker 3: to stop it, but there actually are a great many
[4:07] Speaker 3: things that we can do to stop it. When I
[4:08] Speaker 3: hear people say things like, well, I'm not sure, just
[4:11] Speaker 3: let me use a ridiculous example. Sooner or later, everyone's
[4:14] Speaker 3: going to have to cut their hands off, so we
[4:16] Speaker 3: might as well just cut them off now. Well, no,
[4:18] Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense, you know. So to say
[4:20] Speaker 3: that it's inevitable that AI takes over everything, No, it's
[4:23] Speaker 3: not inevitable. I mean we can stop it. We can
[4:25] Speaker 3: draw lines to where AI is acceptable and where it's
[4:29] Speaker 3: not acceptable, Like, for example, I do not think AI
[4:31] Speaker 3: should be running hospitals. I do not think that AI
[4:34] Speaker 3: should be determining what is true and what is not true.
[4:37] Speaker 3: And I don't think that you should have lethal weapons
[4:40] Speaker 3: in the hands of AIE.
[4:43] Speaker 1: I want to go back to the fog for a second.
[4:45] Speaker 1: How does that correlate with this synthetic biological agenda that
[4:52] Speaker 1: you were just discussing.
[4:54] Speaker 3: Okay, so they've had plans for many decades for how
[4:57] Speaker 3: to introduce synth bio. So but if you go the
[5:01] Speaker 3: route that was experimented with during the scandemic, which was
[5:05] Speaker 3: to try to create a scare to get you to
[5:07] Speaker 3: go into a hospital to get an injection, that's very
[5:09] Speaker 3: effective because it's being injected a payload, is being injected
[5:13] Speaker 3: directly into your bloodstream. That's a very effective way of
[5:16] Speaker 3: getting something inside you. But what they saw a little
[5:18] Speaker 3: bit more reluctance on the part of the general public
[5:21] Speaker 3: than they were expecting. So what are the other vectors
[5:24] Speaker 3: for getting synth bio into your system? Well, how about
[5:26] Speaker 3: you just drop it on people so that they are
[5:28] Speaker 3: forced to deal with it. And the reports have come
[5:31] Speaker 3: in from pretty much all over the world. We have
[5:34] Speaker 3: farmers who were talking about their pets dropping dead as
[5:37] Speaker 3: they're breathing in the fog. Zooming into it, you can
[5:41] Speaker 3: see particulates that are in there. And what all are
[5:44] Speaker 3: in these particulates. We're finding that there are elements of nanotech,
[5:48] Speaker 3: there are parasites, their bacteria they can put in the
[5:52] Speaker 3: elements of synth bio and we can inhale that, ingest that,
[5:57] Speaker 3: and start involuntarily becoming something that we don't want to be.
[6:01] Speaker 1: One more thing about some of the recent events, your
[6:04] Speaker 1: thoughts on the drones and quote unquote UAP activity.
[6:09] Speaker 3: Okay, So this is all part of the exact same thing.
[6:12] Speaker 3: So there's a wide variety of things going on with that.
[6:15] Speaker 3: So some of it always interesting when you have the
[6:18] Speaker 3: government saying there's nothing to be concerned about here, even
[6:20] Speaker 3: though these things have been everywhere, and then there are
[6:22] Speaker 3: other people who are trying to say, oh, no, this
[6:23] Speaker 3: is perfectly normal, and other people are trying to dismiss it, saying,
[6:26] Speaker 3: oh no, those are just regular planes. You won't understand
[6:29] Speaker 3: what you're seeing. Well, clearly none of that has been true.
[6:32] Speaker 3: So there have been correlations between droppings of the fog
[6:35] Speaker 3: with drones. So some of the drones are actually releasing
[6:39] Speaker 3: the fog, so we do know that. And then we've
[6:41] Speaker 3: also had some strange reports of heat elements. This is
[6:46] Speaker 3: like I don't know, low grade thermite that is being
[6:49] Speaker 3: dropped on different places. Now, if you look at what
[6:51] Speaker 3: happened with LA, I mean, I don't know how you
[6:54] Speaker 3: could look at that footage and think any of that
[6:56] Speaker 3: was even remotely natural. If you see the drones actually
[7:00] Speaker 3: that we're going over the area to review the wreckage
[7:02] Speaker 3: after it was done, the homes are flattened and the
[7:04] Speaker 3: trees are fine, So, I mean, what in the world
[7:06] Speaker 3: could be going on there. At Dane Wiggington's geo Engineering
[7:11] Speaker 3: Watch website, he talks about an incident where it was
[7:15] Speaker 3: caught on tape that a home was catching fire from
[7:19] Speaker 3: inside the home, not outside. So we do know that
[7:23] Speaker 3: you can send EMPs to smart meters and they will
[7:26] Speaker 3: spark and they will catch fire. So some of that
[7:29] Speaker 3: is going to be directed energy weapons that are igniting
[7:32] Speaker 3: different forms of technology. Of course, we've seen the horrors
[7:34] Speaker 3: of lithium lithium batteries in the electric vehicles that can
[7:39] Speaker 3: catch fire, So you can pulse those things and you
[7:41] Speaker 3: can start triggering fires that way. And of course if
[7:44] Speaker 3: you have drones with EMPs, they can do a wide
[7:47] Speaker 3: variety of things and they can be part of the
[7:49] Speaker 3: weather warfare and manipulation. Like a lot of people were
[7:51] Speaker 3: talking about the Santa Ana winds. Is it exactly the
[7:53] Speaker 3: Santa Ana winds or are these wind gradients that are
[7:57] Speaker 3: being enhanced by drones. So there can be a wide
[8:00] Speaker 3: variety of things involved, including Chinese spying, which some people
[8:04] Speaker 3: have said could be Russian spying, could be any number
[8:07] Speaker 3: of things. But we also know that the technology does
[8:09] Speaker 3: exist to knock these things out of the sky. I mean,
[8:11] Speaker 3: I've seen the footage of the tests that have been
[8:15] Speaker 3: done to knock drones out of the air, so they
[8:17] Speaker 3: could knock them out of the sky, but they just
[8:18] Speaker 3: seem to have no interest in doing that. So I
[8:21] Speaker 3: do think that there's a multitude of agendas. Not all
[8:24] Speaker 3: the drones are the same. I don't know about that
[8:26] Speaker 3: recent report that I heard of someone saying that they
[8:29] Speaker 3: saw an orb morphing into a physical drone. I have
[8:32] Speaker 3: no idea about that too. Yeah, okay, so someone said that.
[8:36] Speaker 3: But in any case, I would not like to see
[8:39] Speaker 3: the sky filled with drones on countless missions. I don't
[8:43] Speaker 3: think that that's the healthiest way to go.
[8:45] Speaker 1: No, that reminds me of all the dystopian movies that
[8:48] Speaker 1: Hollywood has portrayed, where drones police the sky and can
[8:53] Speaker 1: take you out in an instant if you, quote unquote
[8:56] Speaker 1: break the law, are disobedient in any way, so you
[9:00] Speaker 1: never want to see that.
[9:01] Speaker 2: That's never a good thing.
[9:03] Speaker 1: It seems like it's definitely time for us to start
[9:07] Speaker 1: implementing things to at the least check out some of
[9:11] Speaker 1: these systems. And I've done shows about this before, and
[9:15] Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to what you have in store
[9:18] Speaker 1: with your six part plan. Some of the things discussed
[9:23] Speaker 1: here range from the simplest of things, just not participating
[9:28] Speaker 1: with anti human agendas. Don't keep feeding the machine, don't
[9:34] Speaker 1: vote for these parasitic lizard people, don't keep poisoning yourself
[9:38] Speaker 1: with the poison they offer, and try and be as
[9:41] Speaker 1: self sufficient as possible. Those are some of the few
[9:44] Speaker 1: simple things that we can do. But I'm sure there's
[9:47] Speaker 1: many different levels to be explored, and I'm definitely interested
[9:50] Speaker 1: in hearing what you've come up with.
[9:53] Speaker 3: So I think you start at the beginning by understanding
[9:55] Speaker 3: the nature of your enemy. And I think when we
[9:57] Speaker 3: understand them, they're not really bullies as much as are parasites.
[10:01] Speaker 3: So that's a very important insight. They need us, we
[10:04] Speaker 3: do not need them. Okay, They're not going to survive
[10:07] Speaker 3: if we are gone. That's why their plans always talk
[10:10] Speaker 3: about five hundred million people left because if they wiped
[10:13] Speaker 3: out all of us, then they would have to do work,
[10:14] Speaker 3: and they don't want to do any work. So they
[10:16] Speaker 3: are fundamentally parasites. So how do you get rid of parasites?
[10:18] Speaker 3: So I think that nature itself has taught us the
[10:21] Speaker 3: ultimate strategy for getting rid of parasites. Don't be a
[10:24] Speaker 3: host that is suitable to a parasite. So this applies
[10:27] Speaker 3: on multiple levels. As an individual, this applies to health,
[10:31] Speaker 3: where if you create the right train inside your body,
[10:33] Speaker 3: you will not be host to parasites because parasites won't
[10:36] Speaker 3: want to attach to you. And then you go beyond
[10:39] Speaker 3: that to a community where if your community as a
[10:42] Speaker 3: whole has integrity, working with nature as opposed to against it,
[10:45] Speaker 3: then the parasites want nothing to do with you. We've
[10:47] Speaker 3: talked about the several people have talked about the spiritual
[10:50] Speaker 3: aspects of this. How sadness, anger, fear are emotional states
[10:55] Speaker 3: that negative entities can feed off of. Well, obviously, if
[10:57] Speaker 3: you're an incredibly positive person, then you're not giving up
[11:00] Speaker 3: any energy for a spiritual parasite to attach to. So
[11:03] Speaker 3: we want to stop these parasites. Now, when you think
[11:05] Speaker 3: about warfare, there are two classic ways of going about warfare.
[11:09] Speaker 3: The first is combat or violence, and that's the part
[11:12] Speaker 3: that most people are familiar with. But there is a
[11:14] Speaker 3: second method of warfare, one that is actually more effective
[11:18] Speaker 3: than combat or violence. And what is that cutting the
[11:22] Speaker 3: supply lines. If you can cut the supply lines of
[11:25] Speaker 3: your enemy, they have no way to replenish themselves. They starve,
[11:28] Speaker 3: and they lose the will to fight. So this is
[11:30] Speaker 3: what this strategy is largely going to be about, cutting
[11:33] Speaker 3: the supply lines by opting out. And then we want
[11:36] Speaker 3: to pursue a strategy of optimally out designing. When I
[11:41] Speaker 3: was a kid, I remember thinking about a lot of
[11:43] Speaker 3: reforms as a teenager that I might want to implement,
[11:46] Speaker 3: and an older guy said to me, you should work
[11:48] Speaker 3: within the system. And then eventually I realized that the
[11:51] Speaker 3: system was a conveyor belt to an incinerator. So if
[11:54] Speaker 3: you work inside that system, you burn. That's all that
[11:56] Speaker 3: it is. So you want to adopt the strategy that
[12:00] Speaker 3: suggested by our Bututminster Fuller, what he said was don't
[12:03] Speaker 3: fight the system, design a new system that makes the
[12:06] Speaker 3: old one obsolete. So this is what we'll be talking about.
[12:10] Speaker 3: So let's begin with point number one, which is big pharma.
[12:15] Speaker 3: So how do we cripple big pharma? We opt out? Okay,
[12:18] Speaker 3: so we stop going for drugs, we stopped going for insurance.
[12:22] Speaker 3: I heard Maria Ze recently was saying something along the
[12:25] Speaker 3: lines of, oh, well, if they come up with this
[12:27] Speaker 3: new AI cancer backs, they may do something along the
[12:30] Speaker 3: lines of if you do not cooperate with that, you
[12:33] Speaker 3: may get your insurance yanked. Well, I'm telling you, as
[12:36] Speaker 3: a human being right now, I have never had any
[12:38] Speaker 3: form of insurance. My education is my insurance. Okay, that's
[12:42] Speaker 3: my expression on that education is the ultimate form of insurance.
[12:46] Speaker 3: So with that, if we turn away from drugs, how
[12:49] Speaker 3: do we optimally outdesign that situation. Well, my answer to
[12:52] Speaker 3: that is my book Natural Healing, Self Empowerment. So I'm
[12:54] Speaker 3: going to revisit that in relation to some of the
[12:56] Speaker 3: topics that we discussed before. Not only do I believe
[12:59] Speaker 3: that you can wipe out the majority, let's say, ninety
[13:03] Speaker 3: nine percent of disease, but I do believe that human
[13:05] Speaker 3: regeneration is possible. And during the last several months, I
[13:08] Speaker 3: have found that there are ways to make the regeneration
[13:12] Speaker 3: go even faster because of just recent experiments that I did,
[13:15] Speaker 3: so I stand by everything that I said before. You
[13:17] Speaker 3: can regenerate hair, you can regenerate teeth, you can even
[13:20] Speaker 3: heal internal wounds that most people think cannot be healed
[13:26] Speaker 3: with nutrition. So I'm going to flow a little bit
[13:28] Speaker 3: on this particular topic just to help people out a
[13:31] Speaker 3: little bit more. So, let's talk about how would you
[13:33] Speaker 3: heal something internally that they say that you can't heal internally?
[13:37] Speaker 3: So I know when I was reading, for example, doctor
[13:40] Speaker 3: Jensen's Guide to Better Bowel Care, he talked about the
[13:43] Speaker 3: obstructions in the bowel, how important it was to keep
[13:45] Speaker 3: the bowel clear, and a lot of people would find
[13:47] Speaker 3: that their bowels were obstructed and there seemed to be
[13:50] Speaker 3: no way out except for surgery. So they would carve
[13:53] Speaker 3: somebody up and chart carve out the part of the
[13:55] Speaker 3: intestines that was blocked, and then repatch what was left
[13:58] Speaker 3: back together. So now somebody a shorter intestine. But what
[14:01] Speaker 3: else could you do? You could do a colon clanse, okay,
[14:04] Speaker 3: and then you flush all of that garbage out and
[14:05] Speaker 3: you don't have to go through surgery liver. Over the years,
[14:09] Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many people I've had to
[14:10] Speaker 3: interact with who had an obstructed gallbladder or obstructed liver
[14:15] Speaker 3: bio ducts, and I have.
[14:17] Speaker 2: To stop you. This is my story.
[14:19] Speaker 1: Whenever I was twenty five or twenty six, didn't know
[14:22] Speaker 1: anything about anything, thought the doctors and surgeons always knew best.
[14:27] Speaker 1: My surgeon suggested that I get my gallbladder removed because
[14:32] Speaker 1: it was only going to be downhill from there. What
[14:34] Speaker 1: I know now is I had a little bit of
[14:37] Speaker 1: what they call sand and sludge in my gallbladder that
[14:39] Speaker 1: could have easily been flushed out just by a change
[14:43] Speaker 1: in my diet. But never once was that mentioned. It
[14:47] Speaker 1: was portrayed as if I don't get this surgery, I'm
[14:49] Speaker 1: basically going to die soon or have a horrible life.
[14:53] Speaker 1: And it caused more complications and problems after than it
[14:56] Speaker 1: ever did before. So this is a perfect example of
[14:59] Speaker 1: how well they deceive you to get you sucked into
[15:03] Speaker 1: some of these surgeries and medical procedures.
[15:07] Speaker 3: And did that surgery cost you five dollars Chris.
[15:09] Speaker 2: Oh goodness.
[15:11] Speaker 1: I was still in debt for a long time for
[15:14] Speaker 1: that until very recently.
[15:16] Speaker 4: So.
[15:16] Speaker 3: The goal bladder can be cleansed as well as the
[15:20] Speaker 3: liver itself through a liver cleansed procedure, which is described
[15:22] Speaker 3: in my book. There's a link to doing that on
[15:24] Speaker 3: the web. It's cost effective. You go to the grocery store,
[15:27] Speaker 3: you get the items that you need, you flush this
[15:29] Speaker 3: stuff out. So my colleagues had run into a woman
[15:31] Speaker 3: who was running a storage facility and she was about
[15:34] Speaker 3: to go in for surgery, and they said, hey, have
[15:35] Speaker 3: you heard about the liver cleansed procedures. She said, no,
[15:37] Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything about that. So she did the
[15:39] Speaker 3: liver cleansed procedure. Surgery avoided. She's perfectly okay, perfectly fine.
[15:43] Speaker 3: It's worked in hundreds, if not thousands of cases. So
[15:46] Speaker 3: kidney stones, so whatever the procedures are for the hospital
[15:50] Speaker 3: for kidney stones, those two can be removed as well. Now,
[15:54] Speaker 3: ulcers are of course a internal tear that leads to
[15:57] Speaker 3: bleeding that can also be very dangerous if not healed.
[16:00] Speaker 3: But nutrition can heal those as well, And I am
[16:02] Speaker 3: in the process of determining whether or not certain other
[16:06] Speaker 3: major internal injuries can also be healed simply through nutrition.
[16:10] Speaker 3: Now I want to talk a little bit about methodology
[16:12] Speaker 3: for how things work and why I'm able to get
[16:14] Speaker 3: some of the results that some other people can in
[16:16] Speaker 3: terms of regeneration of let's say hair and teeth and
[16:19] Speaker 3: internal tissues and stuff like that, because I'm sure people
[16:22] Speaker 3: were curious, like, why is this guy succeeding where other
[16:24] Speaker 3: people are failing? Okay, so let's talk about that. Okay.
[16:27] Speaker 3: So the strength of science is in many cases it's weakness,
[16:31] Speaker 3: which is the scientific method which many of us are
[16:34] Speaker 3: familiar with. You create a hypothesis, You design an experiment
[16:38] Speaker 3: to test that hypothesis. The experiment is usually intended to
[16:42] Speaker 3: isolate one variable. You evaluate the results and see whether
[16:45] Speaker 3: they confirm or deny the hypothesis. The thing I want
[16:48] Speaker 3: to focus on, however, is the isolate for the one variable.
[16:52] Speaker 3: So let's talk as an example, about selenium for a second.
[16:56] Speaker 3: So selenium is a trace mineral. Minerals are defined as
[17:01] Speaker 3: being needed by the body less than one hundred milligrams
[17:05] Speaker 3: a day. There are seven major minerals that are needed,
[17:09] Speaker 3: and those minerals are defined by dosages needed at more
[17:13] Speaker 3: than one hundred milligrams a day. So with selenium, if
[17:15] Speaker 3: you go to the store and you hear about selenium, okay,
[17:17] Speaker 3: what's Let me just mention why you might hear about selenium.
[17:20] Speaker 3: Some people might not have ever heard this one before.
[17:23] Speaker 3: So two major diseases that exist in the world that
[17:25] Speaker 3: supposedly have no cure are assistic fibrosis and muscular diystrophy.
[17:28] Speaker 3: So now I talk about all diseases are being capablying cured.
[17:32] Speaker 3: So what do you mean, Cistic fibrosis and muscular discophy
[17:34] Speaker 3: could be cured too. Yes, yes, doctor Wallach did that
[17:37] Speaker 3: decades ago and he showed that it was usually a
[17:39] Speaker 3: selenium deficiency that caused that. So when he showed that
[17:42] Speaker 3: to his superior he was fired from his job. And
[17:45] Speaker 3: eventually they tried to get that information to Jerry Lewis,
[17:49] Speaker 3: the Jery's kids, you know, always having a marathon trying
[17:51] Speaker 3: to come up with a cure. But here was the cure,
[17:54] Speaker 3: and they buried it instead of celebrating, which is, you know,
[17:57] Speaker 3: not the greatest thing in the world. So anyway, here
[17:59] Speaker 3: you have of selenium, and so people start doing some
[18:04] Speaker 3: tests and experiments with selenium. So one of the things
[18:06] Speaker 3: that happens is the study is done and a bunch
[18:08] Speaker 3: of men are on two hundred micrograms of selenium for
[18:11] Speaker 3: a very long period of time, and they see a
[18:12] Speaker 3: lot of health benefits. So what happens now that you've
[18:14] Speaker 3: heard this information, Maybe you take a glance at a
[18:17] Speaker 3: reference that I have, Bolsh and Bulsh's prescription for Nutritional Healing.
[18:22] Speaker 3: You read in there, Oh, selenium is so plentiful in
[18:24] Speaker 3: the food supply, you're not going to have a problem.
[18:26] Speaker 3: And you go to the store and you get your
[18:29] Speaker 3: bottle and your bottle has two hundred micrograms to selenium.
[18:32] Speaker 3: Now at this point, everyone feels safe. Why do they
[18:34] Speaker 3: feel safe? Well, because it's unlikely that you're going to
[18:37] Speaker 3: overdose on this stuff, and it's plentiful in the food supply.
[18:41] Speaker 3: You only need two hundred micrograms. Studies have been done,
[18:44] Speaker 3: and this is the dose that's available in the store.
[18:47] Speaker 3: Now what happens there is everyone feels safe, but everyone
[18:50] Speaker 3: else also feels complacent. And that is why I succeed
[18:55] Speaker 3: where others fail, is because I am not complacent. I
[18:58] Speaker 3: look at that dosage of two hundre micrograms and I say,
[19:01] Speaker 3: are you sure? Are you one hundred percent sure that
[19:03] Speaker 3: that is the correct dosage. So some years go by,
[19:07] Speaker 3: and there was an incident several years ago where there
[19:10] Speaker 3: was a mother of a child whose spine was kind
[19:12] Speaker 3: of locked up. Spine was just really not that flexible.
[19:15] Speaker 3: So a colleague of mine calls me up and says, hey,
[19:17] Speaker 3: you know, what would you recommend for this particular case.
[19:19] Speaker 3: And I said, well, I were dealt with anything like
[19:21] Speaker 3: this before, so let me do some digging and get
[19:23] Speaker 3: back to you. So I do some digging and I
[19:25] Speaker 3: find a doctor who has developed a protocol to unlock
[19:28] Speaker 3: spines just like this situation. So what was the protocol
[19:31] Speaker 3: that that doctor had discovered on his own. It called
[19:34] Speaker 3: for selenium mixed with copper to unlock spines. Now that
[19:38] Speaker 3: made a lot of sense to me. But here's the
[19:40] Speaker 3: thing that was amazing. The dosage of selenium. He recommended
[19:44] Speaker 3: fifteen times the recommended dose fifteen times two hundred micrograms. Now,
[19:52] Speaker 3: if that doctor had been as complacent as everybody else,
[19:55] Speaker 3: he never would have found that out and he never
[19:57] Speaker 3: would have healed all of those people. So this is
[20:00] Speaker 3: the point that I'm making. You know, there are a
[20:02] Speaker 3: lot of people out there who are complacent. They well,
[20:04] Speaker 3: a study was done. Okay, that's great that a study
[20:06] Speaker 3: was done, But did it get to us to the
[20:09] Speaker 3: point where we have the results that we want if not,
[20:11] Speaker 3: maybe you need to do more digging. And that's what
[20:13] Speaker 3: I did. I did more digging until I found the
[20:15] Speaker 3: answers that worked. So in relation to a lot of
[20:20] Speaker 3: these protocols than in isolating for one variable. Here's the
[20:22] Speaker 3: thing about real life. You can keep isolating for one
[20:25] Speaker 3: variable and pat yourself on the back when you do that,
[20:28] Speaker 3: But when it comes to regeneration, like, for example, regeneration
[20:30] Speaker 3: of the hair, most of that has to do with
[20:32] Speaker 3: the health of the prostate. Okay, so now let's say
[20:36] Speaker 3: you want to make a healthy prostate. Are you going
[20:39] Speaker 3: to do that with one nutrient? No? Unfortunately, in life
[20:43] Speaker 3: it takes several nutrients to make the prostate healthy. And
[20:46] Speaker 3: that's my point. So some people might say, Okay, wait
[20:49] Speaker 3: a minute, though, if you have this regeneration, can't they
[20:50] Speaker 3: just do a study to verify what you're saying. I
[20:52] Speaker 3: wish they would, But for the nature of science again
[20:55] Speaker 3: is to isolate for one variable. It's not going to isolate.
[20:58] Speaker 3: How many people are going to isolate for ninety variables
[21:01] Speaker 3: or something like that, or just you know, forget the
[21:04] Speaker 3: isolation altogether. And if people want to know, you know,
[21:06] Speaker 3: where does this ultimately lead us it leads us pretty
[21:08] Speaker 3: much to the conclusion that Wallet came to on its own,
[21:11] Speaker 3: which is, you don't need one nutrient, you don't need five,
[21:13] Speaker 3: you don't need ten, you need ninety ninety. You need
[21:17] Speaker 3: ninety nutrients, and they all have to be in the
[21:18] Speaker 3: right forms and the right amounts. I understand that. I
[21:22] Speaker 3: describe that as simply as I can possibly describe it
[21:24] Speaker 3: in my work, and if you do that, you will
[21:27] Speaker 3: see the regeneration that I'm referring to, which, again, from
[21:30] Speaker 3: my perspective, this is like the most powerful health book
[21:32] Speaker 3: ever written. So my attempt to optimally outdesign big pharma
[21:37] Speaker 3: natural healing, self empowerment. That's my solution for part one.
[21:40] Speaker 3: I think questions before I go on to part two.
[21:42] Speaker 1: You said we need ninety of these supplements. Are these
[21:48] Speaker 1: relatively easy to get our hands on?
[21:52] Speaker 3: They are if you know what you're doing, So the
[21:54] Speaker 3: majority of them, For example, in doctor Wallack's formula, you
[21:57] Speaker 3: can just look up ninety nutrients doctor Wallack allacch and
[22:02] Speaker 3: he'll list what those nutrients are in rough form. But
[22:05] Speaker 3: sixty of them are minerals. So now people might say, well,
[22:09] Speaker 3: wait a minute, that's a lot of them, right, there,
[22:10] Speaker 3: so I have to get sixty different supplements. No, you
[22:13] Speaker 3: can get most of those minerals ready to go in
[22:16] Speaker 3: humic or fulvic minerals. These are organic plant rived colloidal minerals.
[22:21] Speaker 3: They don't taste too good if you take them just
[22:24] Speaker 3: in water, but you can add them to like fruit
[22:26] Speaker 3: juice or something like that and then they're tasteless. So
[22:29] Speaker 3: there's like sixty nutrients at once. But I do think
[22:32] Speaker 3: you have to be aware of what you're doing when
[22:33] Speaker 3: it comes to the major minerals, what form those are in,
[22:36] Speaker 3: what amounts those are needed in, and some of the
[22:39] Speaker 3: more prominent of the trace minerals. There's a lot of
[22:41] Speaker 3: subtleties with that. And then there's with vitamins. There's also
[22:45] Speaker 3: dosages that I'm finding you have to be aware of,
[22:47] Speaker 3: Like some of the dosages increase as you get older.
[22:50] Speaker 3: If you haven't been paying attention to what you were doing,
[22:52] Speaker 3: you're going to need larger amounts of certain vitamins than
[22:56] Speaker 3: when you were younger because you've just become depleted over time.
[22:59] Speaker 3: You have been living in harmony with nature that whole time.
[23:03] Speaker 1: And something I believe you mentioned in a previous episode
[23:06] Speaker 1: that we have the ability if we have the correct
[23:10] Speaker 1: nutrients to regrow teeth.
[23:12] Speaker 2: Is that right?
[23:13] Speaker 3: Correct? That is definitely correct, excellent.
[23:16] Speaker 1: And this would be in your book as well, and
[23:20] Speaker 1: some of those supplements are included for that as well,
[23:24] Speaker 1: right well.
[23:25] Speaker 3: I teeth are very important because they tie into the
[23:28] Speaker 3: meridians and the health of your heart, for example, is
[23:32] Speaker 3: largely determined by the impact of your nutrition for your teeth.
[23:36] Speaker 3: So in order to enhance that even further, and knowing
[23:40] Speaker 3: that there were going to be people who wanted to
[23:42] Speaker 3: ask even more questions specifically about teeth and the science
[23:45] Speaker 3: behind it, I put together an additional booklet called Transcendent
[23:48] Speaker 3: Teeth that's also available at my website in the health section.
[23:52] Speaker 3: So the purpose of that booklet for people were wondering, like,
[23:54] Speaker 3: why did you write an extra booklet, Well, I knew
[23:56] Speaker 3: that some people were going to want to know exactly
[23:58] Speaker 3: what the science was hind regeneration, so I didn't have
[24:02] Speaker 3: time to do that in the health book proper. But
[24:05] Speaker 3: what I did in Transcendent Teeth is I gave you
[24:08] Speaker 3: the studies so that you can see exactly what the
[24:11] Speaker 3: studies showed for specific nutrients, and then there's additional links
[24:15] Speaker 3: to back up some of the nutritional points that I
[24:17] Speaker 3: set up in the intro intro to review all of
[24:20] Speaker 3: that so that you can go and verify all that
[24:22] Speaker 3: information for yourself. So, after we take care of big Pharma,
[24:27] Speaker 3: we have education, big education, So our mind control begins
[24:31] Speaker 3: with the educational system. So we have to how do
[24:33] Speaker 3: we get rid of that? Well, we have to opt
[24:35] Speaker 3: out of it. So I know that stup Peter's on
[24:38] Speaker 3: one of his shows was saying, you know, well, why
[24:40] Speaker 3: should we leave, why should we pull our kids out
[24:41] Speaker 3: of the school? We should fight for the school boards
[24:43] Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Well, it's difficult when elections for
[24:46] Speaker 3: school boards are rigged. And the other point that I
[24:49] Speaker 3: would say in relation to like current events, I know
[24:51] Speaker 3: some people were talking, for example, about dismantling education at
[24:55] Speaker 3: the federal level and letting states have their own ability
[24:58] Speaker 3: to go back to doing what they want to do.
[25:00] Speaker 3: But even if we get rid of I don't know,
[25:02] Speaker 3: drag Queen story ho or whatever they're doing in the
[25:05] Speaker 3: schools and all the pornography that's being exposed in grade
[25:08] Speaker 3: school and stuff like that, and we go back to
[25:11] Speaker 3: where we were, are we really in the best place
[25:13] Speaker 3: to do the statistics show that our literacy and our
[25:18] Speaker 3: mathematical skills are tremendously high and have been high for many,
[25:21] Speaker 3: many decades. No, they do not. There has been what's
[25:26] Speaker 3: called the deliberate dumbing down of America. There's actually a
[25:29] Speaker 3: book with that name. Berrell has a book called Rotten
[25:32] Speaker 3: to the common Core. You see the history of people
[25:35] Speaker 3: like John Dewey, who is involved in education for a
[25:37] Speaker 3: very long period of time, and his understanding of the
[25:41] Speaker 3: human being was pretty corrupt and bizarre. A lot of
[25:43] Speaker 3: people had a pav lobby and understanding of education that
[25:46] Speaker 3: all you have to do is give them a stimulus
[25:49] Speaker 3: and people will respond the appropriate way, and that's the
[25:51] Speaker 3: ultimate goal of education. Well, if that's the ultimate goal
[25:53] Speaker 3: of education, I don't want to see education go back
[25:55] Speaker 3: to that. I want to see it be better. So
[25:57] Speaker 3: how do you optimally out there design that. Well, my
[26:02] Speaker 3: solution is at my website. So in the science section
[26:05] Speaker 3: there's a sketch called optimal Education. It's a free article.
[26:08] Speaker 3: It shows topics that would be discussed from grade school
[26:12] Speaker 3: all the way through twelfth grade and in relation to
[26:15] Speaker 3: textbooks for that, I actually have a bunch of textbooks
[26:17] Speaker 3: all ready to go. So a recent edition Vital Vocabulary
[26:21] Speaker 3: I put that at my website is a little mini
[26:23] Speaker 3: booklet gives you more than one hundred root words to
[26:25] Speaker 3: help you dissect words back to their etymology and derivation.
[26:29] Speaker 3: Makes you more powerful with language. Of course, for math,
[26:32] Speaker 3: I have the Math Wizard, and I would just say
[26:34] Speaker 3: on the math Wizard, the math Wizard isn't just like
[26:37] Speaker 3: you know, boring deep technical math. It shows you how
[26:40] Speaker 3: to do basic math more easily than you've ever thought
[26:43] Speaker 3: it could possibly be done. But in addition to that,
[26:46] Speaker 3: it shows the practical applications of math to real life
[26:50] Speaker 3: and realizing goals like freedom. So, for example, let's talk
[26:54] Speaker 3: about a house. Okay, so if you want to build
[26:56] Speaker 3: your own house, and you want to have a foundation
[26:58] Speaker 3: for that house that helps the house stay up right,
[27:01] Speaker 3: you would need to do some math for the foundation
[27:04] Speaker 3: of that house. And I introduced that math in the
[27:06] Speaker 3: Math Withzard. All right, now, let's say you want to
[27:08] Speaker 3: put a roof over your house. Well, you calculate stresses
[27:10] Speaker 3: in what are called roof trustes. And if you want
[27:13] Speaker 3: to build a bridge, you have a bridge trust. Now,
[27:16] Speaker 3: how do you make sure that the roof trust can
[27:18] Speaker 3: handle the stress or the bridge trust can handle the stress. Well,
[27:21] Speaker 3: you use math for that, and I show you that
[27:23] Speaker 3: math in the Math Wizard. So that's what I'm doing
[27:25] Speaker 3: in the Math Wizard is giving you not only easier
[27:29] Speaker 3: ways to do fundamental math, but you learn things like mechanics.
[27:32] Speaker 3: I sometimes call the Lore equation the simple equation of
[27:35] Speaker 3: mechanical advantage. This is what you use for the six
[27:37] Speaker 3: simple machines. And then of course from the six simple machines,
[27:40] Speaker 3: you have the compound machines, which combined the simple machines,
[27:43] Speaker 3: so like, for example, a drill can be a combination
[27:46] Speaker 3: of a screw and the gear. So you learn these
[27:50] Speaker 3: skills to empower yourself in the direction of freedom. And
[27:53] Speaker 3: I believe that ultimately, if we're going to improve the
[27:56] Speaker 3: educational system, we have to ask ourselves a question, what
[27:59] Speaker 3: is the goal? So the goal for many people is
[28:02] Speaker 3: to get a high paying job. Well, that's not the
[28:03] Speaker 3: goal that my educational system would be oriented toward. My
[28:07] Speaker 3: goal would be to orient education towards an independent homestead,
[28:10] Speaker 3: so that when you graduate from twelfth grade, you know
[28:13] Speaker 3: exactly how to go out get land, build your own house,
[28:17] Speaker 3: make it work in harmony with nature. And you are
[28:19] Speaker 3: free for life. You can now do whatever you love
[28:22] Speaker 3: to do all the rest of your days. So that,
[28:26] Speaker 3: to me, is an optimal educational system. And again everything
[28:29] Speaker 3: has to be based on what I call a pro
[28:32] Speaker 3: world model. So in my fiction I make a distinction
[28:34] Speaker 3: between the prole pro world and the con world. The
[28:38] Speaker 3: pro world consists of those who want to work with nature.
[28:42] Speaker 3: The con world consists of those who want to work
[28:44] Speaker 3: against nature. And most everything that we're being taught is
[28:47] Speaker 3: to work against nature. That you should conquer nature, beat it,
[28:50] Speaker 3: defeat it. I sometimes equate this to trying to defeat
[28:53] Speaker 3: your own mother when you're an infant. It's a stupid
[28:55] Speaker 3: path and it's going to always lead to failure. So
[28:59] Speaker 3: in any case, the optimal educational system would be along
[29:03] Speaker 3: these lines. And I don't just support my own textbooks.
[29:05] Speaker 3: There are many other excellent textbooks out there, some of
[29:07] Speaker 3: the ones who Are You Know? The New Way Things
[29:09] Speaker 3: Work by David McCully. It's an excellent book for machines
[29:13] Speaker 3: and how to work with machines. There's books in engineering
[29:15] Speaker 3: like Structures Are Why Things Don't Fall Down by Gordon.
[29:18] Speaker 3: I'm not an engineer, but I've learned from people who
[29:19] Speaker 3: were engineers, Donald Norman, A design of everyday things, Daniel
[29:23] Speaker 3: Brandt metallurgy fundamentals. I mean, there's a whole bunch of
[29:26] Speaker 3: different basic books that you can learn to empower yourself
[29:30] Speaker 3: so that you don't have to waste your money on
[29:32] Speaker 3: loans or parasitic insurance companies, and all of that stuff
[29:37] Speaker 3: further defeats the cabal. So that would be step two
[29:40] Speaker 3: right on.
[29:41] Speaker 1: And you mentioned how talking heads say things like we
[29:44] Speaker 1: have to rebuild it, or we have to take it
[29:47] Speaker 1: back and build back better, all these things of taking
[29:51] Speaker 1: something that's already existing and reforming or rebuilding it, which
[29:56] Speaker 1: we know if it's built on a shitty foundation, it's
[29:59] Speaker 1: always going to come crumbling down no matter how you
[30:01] Speaker 1: rebuild it. So I like what you said that we
[30:04] Speaker 1: have to fundamentally rethink these systems and start from the
[30:07] Speaker 1: ground up.
[30:09] Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again I think that the pro world versus
[30:12] Speaker 3: conworld model is the heart of it. I mean, we
[30:14] Speaker 3: have to learn to work with nature, and I will
[30:16] Speaker 3: be returning to that concept when I get to the
[30:18] Speaker 3: government part. So Part three, we're controlled as kids through
[30:21] Speaker 3: the educational system, were controlled as adults through big media,
[30:25] Speaker 3: and how do we stop big media. Well, we're doing it.
[30:28] Speaker 3: We're doing it right now. I mean, we've seen this
[30:31] Speaker 3: proof of the effectiveness of this strategy. During the last
[30:34] Speaker 3: several years, MSM is plummeting. I mean, its ratings are
[30:37] Speaker 3: all time low. Why are we having this conversation right now?
[30:40] Speaker 3: Because podcasts have surged in popularity. People are no longer
[30:43] Speaker 3: as interested in the MSM as they were as the
[30:46] Speaker 3: legacy media falters because people were sick of being lied to,
[30:50] Speaker 3: they move away to alternative sources of information. Now, how
[30:54] Speaker 3: would you optimally outdesign that. I don't have a solution
[30:56] Speaker 3: ready to go for that right now, but I can
[30:58] Speaker 3: describe to what it would be like. It would be
[31:01] Speaker 3: a pro world model. So in relation to the news,
[31:04] Speaker 3: one of the things that we see are first of all,
[31:07] Speaker 3: the presentation of dubious data. So these could be studies
[31:11] Speaker 3: polls like for example, during the last presidential election, polls
[31:14] Speaker 3: kept saying that Trump and Kamala Harris were dead. Even now,
[31:17] Speaker 3: I don't want to comment on the merits of either candidate,
[31:20] Speaker 3: but there's like no poll in the world that would
[31:22] Speaker 3: have possibly shown they were dead. Even we know those
[31:24] Speaker 3: polls were faked, that Trump was way ahead. Okay. So
[31:28] Speaker 3: when you do studies and when you collect data, there's
[31:32] Speaker 3: a right way and a wrong way to do it.
[31:33] Speaker 3: So there's a book on this called Tainted Truth by
[31:35] Speaker 3: Cynthia cross In so examples of some of the things
[31:38] Speaker 3: that can go on in relation to studies. So I
[31:43] Speaker 3: mentioned my work in health. So one of the things
[31:45] Speaker 3: that happens in health is that there are natural approaches
[31:47] Speaker 3: and their drug approaches, and how are statistics manipulated there?
[31:50] Speaker 3: They're manipulated very easily. So one of the things you
[31:53] Speaker 3: learn about working with nature is the nature tends to
[31:55] Speaker 3: work relatively slowly. When you work with drugs. Drugs tend
[31:59] Speaker 3: to work very rapidly. So what will happen with statistics there?
[32:04] Speaker 3: Someone uses a natural method and let's say they just
[32:09] Speaker 3: get started on natural method. Twenty four hours later, they're dead. Okay.
[32:13] Speaker 3: Now this would be after I don't know, seven years
[32:15] Speaker 3: of working with allopathic drugs and they start one day
[32:17] Speaker 3: on the natural method. They're dead. And of course, what
[32:19] Speaker 3: does the medical community to do. Oh, natural methods don't work.
[32:22] Speaker 3: I mean, look at that, we've just proven that. Now meanwhile,
[32:25] Speaker 3: they were the person who killed the guy in the
[32:26] Speaker 3: first place with all the drugs they put into him.
[32:28] Speaker 3: And as I said, nature tends to work slowly. You
[32:30] Speaker 3: have to give it a little bit of time to work. Now,
[32:33] Speaker 3: what happens with the drugs. So somebody takes drugs for
[32:38] Speaker 3: a while and they die, and then what do the
[32:43] Speaker 3: community say the exact opposite, Oh, well, the drugs didn't
[32:46] Speaker 3: have enough time to work. Well, the drugs are work
[32:48] Speaker 3: rapidly though, so why didn't they work rapidly in that case?
[32:51] Speaker 3: So this is how statistics can be manipulated, leading to
[32:54] Speaker 3: Mark Twain's famous joke, their lies, damn lies, and then
[32:57] Speaker 3: there are statistics. So you have to be aware of that,
[33:01] Speaker 3: and that when you're offering news to the people, you
[33:04] Speaker 3: have to respect how the data is put together in
[33:06] Speaker 3: a pole. Holes can be put together the right way,
[33:09] Speaker 3: they can put together the wrong way. When they're put
[33:10] Speaker 3: together the right way, then they're valid and useful, and
[33:13] Speaker 3: when they put together the wrong way, they're meaningless. And
[33:18] Speaker 3: what we've seen also with the news. You know, so
[33:20] Speaker 3: many times when people talk about the news, they talk
[33:21] Speaker 3: about objective. You know, we want to be objective, we
[33:25] Speaker 3: want to present both sides. But there's more to it
[33:27] Speaker 3: than that. You know, when I think back to a
[33:30] Speaker 3: time period where I was watching Fox News for a while,
[33:33] Speaker 3: one of the things that just was an eyebrow raiser
[33:35] Speaker 3: for me is the number of stories on flags that
[33:38] Speaker 3: fell down. So there'd be a flag that fell down,
[33:41] Speaker 3: and Joe Bob went out in the rain and he
[33:43] Speaker 3: picked up the flag and he stood it up. Right now,
[33:45] Speaker 3: we're going to have a long interview with Joe Bob.
[33:47] Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, so you know, then we
[33:49] Speaker 3: have ten minute story about how Joe you know, got
[33:51] Speaker 3: outside and got his feet wet and stuff and put
[33:53] Speaker 3: the flag back up. Well, you know, you've just used
[33:57] Speaker 3: up ten to fifteen minutes of news time. Now, when
[33:59] Speaker 3: I look back over the last several decades, and I
[34:02] Speaker 3: look back on a book like Suppressed Inventions and Other
[34:04] Speaker 3: Discoveries by Jonathan Eisen, that has a bunch of vital
[34:08] Speaker 3: information that people still don't have to this day. So
[34:11] Speaker 3: what you choose to view as news and put on
[34:15] Speaker 3: the air is a form of showing your soul, your principles. Okay,
[34:20] Speaker 3: what information do you think is newsworthy? I mean, there's
[34:22] Speaker 3: so many things that have happened that were of tremendous
[34:25] Speaker 3: newsworthy value. I mean, why wasn't David Martin's testimony all
[34:30] Speaker 3: over the place on the news during the last several years.
[34:32] Speaker 3: He had more valid information than almost anybody, or doctor
[34:35] Speaker 3: Brian Artist who was talking about the snake venom in
[34:37] Speaker 3: the water supply. These people could have been on mainstream news,
[34:40] Speaker 3: but they weren't. So it's not just a question of
[34:42] Speaker 3: being objective, it's what is the soul of your news network.
[34:45] Speaker 3: Are you trying to work in harmony with nature? Are
[34:47] Speaker 3: you presenting the public with the best possible information, or
[34:49] Speaker 3: are you not? So if there ever is to be
[34:53] Speaker 3: a worthy news outlet of some kind, it would have
[34:56] Speaker 3: to be on this pro world basis of working with
[34:59] Speaker 3: nature and not working against it, and reporting the news accordingly.
[35:04] Speaker 1: And I already see people starting to work towards this
[35:10] Speaker 1: ideologist pro world ideology, even without being aware of it.
[35:15] Speaker 1: If you're already becoming aware of some of the fundamental problems,
[35:19] Speaker 1: and you are participating with some of the information coming
[35:23] Speaker 1: out of the alternative viewpoints, then you're already starting to
[35:29] Speaker 1: adopt that a bit without even realizing it. And I
[35:33] Speaker 1: know many people who are applying this to their business
[35:36] Speaker 1: models to what they're doing with their production, their media
[35:40] Speaker 1: companies and things of that nature. So it's already starting,
[35:44] Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of like a hundredth monkey
[35:47] Speaker 1: effect exactly.
[35:49] Speaker 3: And that's largely what we need because we don't need
[35:51] Speaker 3: everyone on planet Earth to be in this space I
[35:55] Speaker 3: sometimes called the rebel space. We don't have to have
[35:57] Speaker 3: everyone on Earth be that way, but if we have
[35:58] Speaker 3: a significant enough number of us in that space, we
[36:02] Speaker 3: can trigger that one hundredth monkey effect. So in relation
[36:05] Speaker 3: to big media, the next target is big business. And
[36:08] Speaker 3: what we saw with big media is the impact on
[36:12] Speaker 3: big business. So for example, when we pulled away from
[36:15] Speaker 3: the MSM, the MSM was sponsored by big business, you know,
[36:18] Speaker 3: brought to you by Pfizer as the ongoing joke. So
[36:21] Speaker 3: when we pulled away from that, we got rid of
[36:24] Speaker 3: the effectiveness of the advertising for all of those companies,
[36:28] Speaker 3: and we can continue to do that. We've seen what's
[36:30] Speaker 3: happened during the last several years in a multitude of situations.
[36:33] Speaker 3: There was the famous Budweiser situation, there was the Target situation.
[36:39] Speaker 3: There are any number of products that have come on
[36:42] Speaker 3: the market. Now I've talked a lot, For example, in
[36:44] Speaker 3: previous podcast about how when you go to buy food,
[36:48] Speaker 3: go look underneath the list of ingredients and look for
[36:51] Speaker 3: the phrase contains a bioengineered ingredient. If you see that,
[36:56] Speaker 3: don't buy that product. And if enough of us do that,
[37:00] Speaker 3: we have the impact to change the industry. I know
[37:02] Speaker 3: that there's a fairly popular rebel out there, as I
[37:05] Speaker 3: would call her food Babe. She's applied a great deal
[37:09] Speaker 3: of corporate pressure to get rid of some of the
[37:11] Speaker 3: artificial colors and stuff like that, and her pressure was
[37:14] Speaker 3: eventually effective with that, you know, getting the information out there,
[37:18] Speaker 3: finding out what products are truly good and truly bad.
[37:21] Speaker 3: You can also do an analysis of stockholders. You know,
[37:24] Speaker 3: for example, who is the primary stockholder in the companies
[37:27] Speaker 3: that you're patronizing. Is it Black Rocks, State Street, Vanguard,
[37:31] Speaker 3: all the rest of them? And if you see it's
[37:32] Speaker 3: a come Ball owned company, then try not to patronize
[37:35] Speaker 3: it as best as possible. And I'm not talking about perfection.
[37:39] Speaker 3: I'm not talking about agonizing and you know, going through
[37:41] Speaker 3: your days laden with guilt or something like that. I'm
[37:43] Speaker 3: talking about just doing the best you can. You know,
[37:46] Speaker 3: when you're going out and buying products, you know, think
[37:48] Speaker 3: as much as you can is this truly a positive product?
[37:52] Speaker 3: Is it having a positive impact on the environment in
[37:55] Speaker 3: the world, And as much as you can support the
[37:58] Speaker 3: products that are the healthiest, and it will be the
[38:00] Speaker 3: downfall because you can do as we see. I sometimes
[38:04] Speaker 3: refer to it as the three p's Pickets, protests and petitions.
[38:08] Speaker 3: You can do those, but they're not never as effective
[38:11] Speaker 3: as withdrawing your money from buying their products, because if
[38:15] Speaker 3: their products are not selling, they collapse. Okay, so we
[38:18] Speaker 3: have the power to do that. We have the power
[38:20] Speaker 3: to create markets and to redefine them as for optimally
[38:23] Speaker 3: out to designing them. Unfortunately, this is the toughest one
[38:25] Speaker 3: of all. But when you see we open with the
[38:29] Speaker 3: discussion of AI, well, AI is going to be the
[38:32] Speaker 3: nightmare of business and of the world in technology, mainly
[38:36] Speaker 3: because of these data centers. I mean, these data centers
[38:38] Speaker 3: are going to be the epitome of a gigantic technological parasite.
[38:43] Speaker 3: I mean, so it's not just biological parasites we have
[38:47] Speaker 3: to be concerned about, but technological parasites. What do I
[38:49] Speaker 3: mean by parasites? I mean that the power grid, I
[38:51] Speaker 3: mean the amount of energy it takes to run these
[38:54] Speaker 3: things is insane and it's going to rip into every
[38:57] Speaker 3: city's grid. There is a woman out there who has
[39:00] Speaker 3: been offering her testimony on this. I mean, it just
[39:03] Speaker 3: gripples the power in any location where it shows up.
[39:06] Speaker 3: So several people have fended off having data centers put
[39:10] Speaker 3: into their local areas. But the premise behind this is
[39:14] Speaker 3: totally nuts. I mean to say that you want to
[39:17] Speaker 3: have data on every blade of grass on the planet,
[39:20] Speaker 3: every tree, every human being being a power source generating
[39:26] Speaker 3: data on their own internal organs and sending that to
[39:29] Speaker 3: a data center, like when you're having sex, when you're peeing.
[39:32] Speaker 3: I means someone needs to know that information. They have
[39:35] Speaker 3: to have that much invasion of privacy. There is that
[39:38] Speaker 3: line in the Countain America Winter Soldier movie. You know
[39:42] Speaker 3: this isn't progress, This is fear. Okay, this is fear.
[39:46] Speaker 3: And the whole point here goes back to a statement
[39:52] Speaker 3: in relation to why are you doing this in the
[39:55] Speaker 3: first place? Okay, So with the scandemic, we saw the
[39:59] Speaker 3: euas emergency use authorization, and what was the premise behind that?
[40:03] Speaker 3: That there were no other alternatives? There were no other
[40:07] Speaker 3: solutions available, and what do we know that there were
[40:10] Speaker 3: other solutions that were available. So in relation to all
[40:13] Speaker 3: this stuff that you're about to hear from now through
[40:16] Speaker 3: the next several years, in relation to AI, we have
[40:19] Speaker 3: to do this so that we can get rid of war.
[40:21] Speaker 3: We have to invade your body with cancer tech vaccines
[40:25] Speaker 3: in order to prevent you from getting cancer. There is
[40:28] Speaker 3: another way of doing it. There's solutions that work with nature,
[40:32] Speaker 3: and you will get rid of all these problems. This
[40:34] Speaker 3: actually leads me to ARNT five, which is big religion. Okay,
[40:39] Speaker 3: so I think that we do have to be concerned
[40:41] Speaker 3: about big religion. Now. I know that my views on
[40:43] Speaker 3: religion are probably not super popular. But if you go
[40:47] Speaker 3: through hidden history of humanity and you look back to
[40:48] Speaker 3: what religion has done. When you look at the Crusades,
[40:50] Speaker 3: when you look at World War Two, when you look
[40:52] Speaker 3: at people fighting each other in the name of God,
[40:55] Speaker 3: when you look at the child's sexual abuse. You watch
[40:59] Speaker 3: movie like Spotlight to talk about the child sexual abuse
[41:03] Speaker 3: that has gone on in the church for a very
[41:05] Speaker 3: long period of time. When you look at the migration replacement,
[41:08] Speaker 3: which has destroyed one nation after another. It's in the
[41:12] Speaker 3: process of destroying multiple nations on the planet. Right now
[41:15] Speaker 3: who aided and embedded most of that that was religious organizations.
[41:19] Speaker 3: They made sure that those migrants came in. And as
[41:22] Speaker 3: people keep talking about climate change, by the way, I
[41:24] Speaker 3: just have to throw this in there, why is the
[41:27] Speaker 3: migration replacement getting started in the first place? Why are
[41:29] Speaker 3: these people leaving their countries in the first place? We
[41:31] Speaker 3: keep hearing climate change, climate change, climate change. The thing
[41:34] Speaker 3: that I never hear on the news, the World Bank
[41:37] Speaker 3: and the IMS. They are the ones who orchestrated all
[41:41] Speaker 3: this investment firms that viewed Africa and Asia is nothing
[41:45] Speaker 3: more than plunder to go in there and rip and
[41:47] Speaker 3: steal all their resources away, and they ruined those countries.
[41:51] Speaker 3: They are the ones who are responsible for all these
[41:53] Speaker 3: people wanting to leave their home. You know, as many
[41:56] Speaker 3: people have pointed out, Bill Gates could have, you know,
[41:59] Speaker 3: used his money in any number of intelligent ways. He
[42:01] Speaker 3: could have improved the water, He could have had rock
[42:03] Speaker 3: dust grown foods that make these people healthy and free.
[42:06] Speaker 3: And he never did that. He was always creating a
[42:09] Speaker 3: model of dependency. So when you're trying to understand the
[42:12] Speaker 3: ball mentality, I would say not just the two questions,
[42:15] Speaker 3: but the three questions. So the first classic question when
[42:18] Speaker 3: you see something going on, who benefits? So ask yourself
[42:21] Speaker 3: in the background, who's going to benefit from the solution
[42:24] Speaker 3: it's going to be proposed to this problem. Step two,
[42:27] Speaker 3: follow the money. They always say that, you know, when
[42:29] Speaker 3: you're trying to understand why is this plan being implemented?
[42:32] Speaker 3: Where does the money trace back to it? But the
[42:34] Speaker 3: third question I would say, is is this going to
[42:36] Speaker 3: lead to more centralization of power or is it going
[42:39] Speaker 3: to lead to decentralization of power? Because if it's going
[42:41] Speaker 3: to lead to more centralization of power, you might as
[42:43] Speaker 3: well be suspicious that something's wrong. And with religion. I'm
[42:47] Speaker 3: just going to ask you this because I don't know
[42:49] Speaker 3: if you've covered this or not. Have you heard about
[42:51] Speaker 3: the Noah Hyde Laws and what's coming in relation to that? Okay,
[42:54] Speaker 3: So what can you just just in case I don't know,
[42:57] Speaker 3: if someone's listening to this and they didn't catch a
[42:59] Speaker 3: show that you did on the Nolaws, what can you
[43:00] Speaker 3: tell them?
[43:01] Speaker 1: I haven't done a show on it, but from what
[43:02] Speaker 1: I understand, it's adopting these judaic ideologies.
[43:09] Speaker 2: To implement on the global society.
[43:13] Speaker 3: Yes, and it can be so intense that Okay, let
[43:16] Speaker 3: me mention this too. So some people have been aware
[43:19] Speaker 3: of corruption in the church, and I will see that
[43:22] Speaker 3: a number of people will say something like, oh, well,
[43:24] Speaker 3: I agree with you that there's a lot of corruption
[43:27] Speaker 3: in the church, but I'm into the Bible. And then
[43:30] Speaker 3: I say to them, okay, well wait a minute, Hold
[43:31] Speaker 3: on a second, where is the Bible coming from. The
[43:34] Speaker 3: Bible is coming from the people who run the church,
[43:37] Speaker 3: And a lot of people don't realize how much manipulation
[43:39] Speaker 3: there really has been. And this manipulation goes all the
[43:42] Speaker 3: way back to ancient times. So in order to back
[43:45] Speaker 3: up what I'm saying previously, I mentioned one website, the
[43:47] Speaker 3: Nazarienes dot com website to get some insight into some
[43:51] Speaker 3: of the stories in relation to Yeshua. But there are
[43:54] Speaker 3: other websites out there that I'll mention. One of them
[43:56] Speaker 3: is mythicism dot net. I didn't suddenly develop the list
[44:00] Speaker 3: myt hicism dot net, which we'll get into the origins
[44:05] Speaker 3: of several religions. And there's another website called biblerigins dot net.
[44:10] Speaker 3: So if you go there you will see some of
[44:12] Speaker 3: the original Sumerian writings from which the original books of
[44:15] Speaker 3: the Bible were put together, and some of the information
[44:17] Speaker 3: in there is quite shocking. Just quick example, the Sabbath.
[44:21] Speaker 3: You know you've been told from these ancient religions keep
[44:23] Speaker 3: holy the Sabbath. And what was the true origin of
[44:26] Speaker 3: the Sabbath. It was all the dead people after Noah's flood.
[44:30] Speaker 3: So the Ananachy were disgusted with humans, thought they were
[44:33] Speaker 3: making too much noise, couldn't wait to kill them off.
[44:35] Speaker 3: And when they finally killed them off and there was quiet,
[44:37] Speaker 3: they said, this should be a holy day. And there
[44:39] Speaker 3: is the origin of the Sabbath. So I mean, these
[44:42] Speaker 3: are parts of what went into forming the Bible, and
[44:45] Speaker 3: it never stopped. People may say, okay, well, wait a minute.
[44:48] Speaker 3: Some of these changes they only took place in ancient times.
[44:50] Speaker 3: We haven't been doc during the Bible this whole time.
[44:52] Speaker 3: Yes we have. I mean it goes all the way
[44:53] Speaker 3: up to the twentieth century. So in the twentieth century.
[44:56] Speaker 3: For example, early in the nineteen hundreds, they had life
[45:00] Speaker 3: change in the Bible where the original text said I
[45:04] Speaker 3: Am a jealous God, and this was changed into I
[45:09] Speaker 3: Am a kind and loving God because they thought that
[45:11] Speaker 3: would go over better. And so they continue to do things.
[45:14] Speaker 3: And if these noah Hide laws reach their peak, this
[45:17] Speaker 3: is what we could be looking at in relation to
[45:20] Speaker 3: these ancient religions that started all the way back and
[45:23] Speaker 3: you know, the times assumer Babylon, all the way up
[45:26] Speaker 3: to the present. What if you're told that you not
[45:30] Speaker 3: only have to worship a specific god, but where and
[45:35] Speaker 3: when and how you're going to worship this god and
[45:37] Speaker 3: if you do not, you will get beheaded. Does that
[45:42] Speaker 3: sound like a benevolent religion that you want to be
[45:44] Speaker 3: a part of. So, I mean, people will have to
[45:46] Speaker 3: think about this because the goal of the kabal this
[45:49] Speaker 3: whole time has been to introduce one world religion eventually,
[45:53] Speaker 3: and they will try to it looks like, try to
[45:56] Speaker 3: push for this through the Noahide laws. And in the
[45:58] Speaker 3: background of this religion, the true nature of it is
[46:01] Speaker 3: devil worship. I mean, this has always been their favorite
[46:05] Speaker 3: religion of devil worship. And it sounds like extremes. And
[46:08] Speaker 3: I know sometimes, because you know, people might not be
[46:11] Speaker 3: familiar with my work, they hear me mention devil worship
[46:14] Speaker 3: and they think, okay, So then you're like very strongly
[46:17] Speaker 3: into the organized religions because you're mentioning the devil. No,
[46:21] Speaker 3: I'm not. I mean, I'm just telling you that if
[46:22] Speaker 3: you study the cabal long enough, you see clearly they
[46:25] Speaker 3: love the devil. And my optimal out design for this
[46:29] Speaker 3: is actually along the lines of the math Wizard, which
[46:32] Speaker 3: has a seven step path to enlightenment where you grow
[46:34] Speaker 3: closer to nature. What if we look at studying the
[46:37] Speaker 3: Creator through creation, so getting closer to minerals, to plants,
[46:43] Speaker 3: to animals, so that way we start becoming closer to
[46:47] Speaker 3: the Creator, we develop our own individual spirituality where we
[46:51] Speaker 3: don't need to consult an organized religion to know God.
[46:54] Speaker 3: We consult creation itself and we look within. I thought
[46:59] Speaker 3: I would just cost this in here as part of
[47:01] Speaker 3: the introspective process, because I'm it's probably not going to
[47:04] Speaker 3: benefit everybody, but like maybe one in one hundred listeners,
[47:06] Speaker 3: this might be of benefit to There are mystical abilities
[47:10] Speaker 3: that we all have and most of us don't tap
[47:12] Speaker 3: into them. And for whoever this may benefit, I will
[47:15] Speaker 3: tell you a strategy that you can use to start
[47:18] Speaker 3: tapping your own mystical powers. I call it astra kinetics.
[47:22] Speaker 3: So this worked for me fairly well, and this is
[47:25] Speaker 3: to trigger out of body experiences. I suggest you always
[47:27] Speaker 3: be a very positive person when you try to do
[47:29] Speaker 3: this kind of thing. So what you do at night,
[47:31] Speaker 3: right before you're about to go to sleep, when your
[47:33] Speaker 3: brain waves are dropping in frequency, you can engage in
[47:35] Speaker 3: this process of astrokinetics. So when your body's lying very
[47:37] Speaker 3: very very still, I want you to imagine doing jumping jacks,
[47:42] Speaker 3: but vividly imagine doing jumping jacks. Don't move your arms,
[47:45] Speaker 3: don't move your physical body in any way, but move
[47:47] Speaker 3: the energy of your life force as if you're doing
[47:49] Speaker 3: jumpjack jumping jacks. So if you do this consistently enough,
[47:52] Speaker 3: you will eventually trigger what I call the ghost waves.
[47:54] Speaker 3: This is a vibration that starts in the brain and
[47:56] Speaker 3: is a precursor to an out of body experience. And
[48:00] Speaker 3: if you do that, you can separate your soul from
[48:02] Speaker 3: your body and you can project yourself to where you
[48:04] Speaker 3: want to go. So before you even trigger the ghost waves,
[48:07] Speaker 3: have an idea where you want to go. Maybe you
[48:08] Speaker 3: want to have a chat or with an advanced spiritual being,
[48:12] Speaker 3: or you just want to go somewhere and have a
[48:13] Speaker 3: certain type of positive experience. Focus on that and start
[48:17] Speaker 3: tapping into your ability, and you'll realize that These are
[48:19] Speaker 3: things that we could have been taught and probably were
[48:21] Speaker 3: taught in the original Atlantean seven step path to Enlightenment,
[48:24] Speaker 3: because I strongly believe that they were triggering out of
[48:26] Speaker 3: body experiences routinely back then for the highest level adepts.
[48:30] Speaker 3: And you can start knowing God as an individual, you know,
[48:33] Speaker 3: instead of consulting some external authority who has to tell you,
[48:36] Speaker 3: you know, get on your knees now. I mean a
[48:39] Speaker 3: lot of people may not be aware that Islam has
[48:43] Speaker 3: an etymology which means I surrender. I mean, is that
[48:48] Speaker 3: really the way that you want to look at life
[48:49] Speaker 3: in terms of surrender, submission, constantly being on your knees.
[48:53] Speaker 3: And if these people are such experts on God, why
[48:55] Speaker 3: are they not giving us? Why are they giving to us?
[48:58] Speaker 3: Why are they constantly taking from Why do they constantly
[49:01] Speaker 3: have to ask for donations? If you can associate with
[49:05] Speaker 3: people in a belief system where everyone can share without
[49:09] Speaker 3: one group constantly demanding things from another group, that seems
[49:13] Speaker 3: a lot healthier to me. Because, as I point out,
[49:15] Speaker 3: a hidden history of humanity, who is one of the
[49:17] Speaker 3: largest landholders on the planet religion? And why do people
[49:22] Speaker 3: need freedom so badly? They don't have land. So if
[49:25] Speaker 3: we can take control of our land and be free
[49:29] Speaker 3: of big religion and go on a spiritual path along
[49:32] Speaker 3: the lines of the Math Wizard and the Steven Step
[49:34] Speaker 3: Path to enlightenment, I believe that would be the optimal
[49:38] Speaker 3: out design for that. So I will wrap up with
[49:40] Speaker 3: big government. Unless you have any questions or comments.
[49:43] Speaker 1: I just agree with you. I think dogma is the
[49:46] Speaker 1: destroyer of worlds. I think there's something very dark behind
[49:51] Speaker 1: most of our religious belief systems, especially the Abrahamic religions.
[49:58] Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that God that is evil.
[50:00] Speaker 1: I just think that what we've been shown to be
[50:04] Speaker 1: God is not the ultimate source, benevolent being, the real.
[50:10] Speaker 2: Quote unquote God.
[50:12] Speaker 1: And I think we've been deceived through religions. And I
[50:15] Speaker 1: think what's happening now, and what more and more people
[50:18] Speaker 1: like yourself, like myself are becoming aware of, is that
[50:22] Speaker 1: we need to stop relying on these outside quote unquote
[50:26] Speaker 1: intelligences and angels and beings and politicians and global leaders
[50:32] Speaker 1: and quote unquote experts to tell us how to live
[50:36] Speaker 1: our lives, how to worship, how to eat, how to
[50:38] Speaker 1: breathe and become self sufficient and just know how to
[50:43] Speaker 1: do these things on our own.
[50:45] Speaker 3: So this makes me to a very important point. So
[50:48] Speaker 3: with Christianity, sometimes when I see a lot of zealous Christians,
[50:53] Speaker 3: I am tempted to just go back and double check
[50:55] Speaker 3: some on my own sources on things. So it's looking
[50:57] Speaker 3: at the Gospel of Mark, and one of the things
[50:59] Speaker 3: that's in there is a lot is repent. I mean,
[51:02] Speaker 3: and I hear this idea constantly up to the present day.
[51:05] Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of people right now running around
[51:07] Speaker 3: saying repent, repent, you know, get rid of your sins
[51:10] Speaker 3: and get yourself right with God and stuff like that.
[51:13] Speaker 3: But one of the more interesting things looking back over
[51:15] Speaker 3: the history is, you know, what is our goal? Is
[51:17] Speaker 3: our goal to have an ideal society of human beings?
[51:20] Speaker 3: And if it is, who's come closest? Has there ever
[51:22] Speaker 3: been a collection of religious people who all got along
[51:25] Speaker 3: extremely well with each other and created a utopian society?
[51:28] Speaker 3: And if we ask ourselves that question, who has gotten
[51:32] Speaker 3: closest to the ideals that we all dream about? I
[51:36] Speaker 3: find it very interesting that when we look, we do
[51:39] Speaker 3: actually find answers for that question. And the first place
[51:42] Speaker 3: that we're going to find answers is Western Price's epical
[51:45] Speaker 3: book nineteen thirty nine, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, because what
[51:48] Speaker 3: he showed in that book were very rare. But there
[51:52] Speaker 3: were ideal societies in different places. They were isolated villages.
[51:56] Speaker 3: One was in the Swiss Alps. Okay, So what happened
[51:59] Speaker 3: in the Swiss Alps? All these people were healthy, they
[52:01] Speaker 3: were eating healthy, natural foods, they were in isolation, they
[52:04] Speaker 3: were happy farmers. They had no criminal justice system, they
[52:07] Speaker 3: had no need of one. This is also true in
[52:11] Speaker 3: several other places, including the Inuit formerly the Eskimo. No
[52:16] Speaker 3: criminal justice system, no need of one. And then can
[52:19] Speaker 3: we translate that all the way up to the present day.
[52:22] Speaker 3: Yes we can, because, as I mentioned in Natural Healing
[52:24] Speaker 3: Self Empowerment, look up if you can the Appleton, Wisconsin
[52:27] Speaker 3: school study that had every negative behavior that you can
[52:30] Speaker 3: think of in an urban setting, truancy, violence, team pregnancy,
[52:35] Speaker 3: all suicide, all of it depression. They changed the environment,
[52:39] Speaker 3: got rid of all the junk food, put in healthy food,
[52:42] Speaker 3: put in healthy lighting. And I talk a lot about
[52:44] Speaker 3: lighting in the work of John Ott. In my work
[52:46] Speaker 3: lighting influences health and both physical and mental. All the
[52:51] Speaker 3: negative behavior vanished. So there we go. We just transformed
[52:54] Speaker 3: a completely negative environment into a positive one. Do you
[52:57] Speaker 3: want to pay attention to information like that or do
[52:59] Speaker 3: you want to ignore it in favor of religion? And
[53:02] Speaker 3: the UK prison study was a similar to this. This
[53:05] Speaker 3: is where they introduced healthy nutrition to a criminal environment
[53:08] Speaker 3: that was in a prison and the recidivism rate dropped
[53:11] Speaker 3: twenty six percent. Then they didn't even know everything about
[53:14] Speaker 3: nutrition that I know, so who knows what would happen
[53:16] Speaker 3: with that. The point being that if we want that
[53:19] Speaker 3: optimal society, it's about reforming the environment, and you can
[53:22] Speaker 3: repent all you like, But the point is, why do
[53:25] Speaker 3: you sin in the first place? Isn't it most of
[53:27] Speaker 3: the time because the environment is so negative. If you're
[53:31] Speaker 3: living in a positive environment where all your animal needs
[53:33] Speaker 3: are met, and I talk about the ten basics all
[53:35] Speaker 3: the time, I'll talk about them right here, water, sanitation, food, shelter, power, heating, cooling, lighting, telecommunication,
[53:42] Speaker 3: and transportation, if all of those are optimized in your environment,
[53:46] Speaker 3: you're probably not going to sin in the first place.
[53:48] Speaker 3: So it's less important to repent than it is to
[53:52] Speaker 3: build an optimal environment where people are just going to
[53:55] Speaker 3: naturally behave well. Our default behavior is actually positive. That's
[54:00] Speaker 3: why the cabal always tries to lure us with positive things,
[54:03] Speaker 3: like for example, during the scandemic, it was well, you
[54:06] Speaker 3: may want to do this for yourself, but what about
[54:08] Speaker 3: hurting your grandmother. I mean, if we were evil people,
[54:10] Speaker 3: they wouldn't be talking to us like that. But because
[54:12] Speaker 3: we're compassionate, they talk to us in that way. So
[54:15] Speaker 3: we can develop our positive nature as much as possible
[54:18] Speaker 3: if we move in that direction. So that brings us
[54:20] Speaker 3: finally to big government. So how do we opt out
[54:23] Speaker 3: of big government? The first aspect of opting out of
[54:27] Speaker 3: big government is don't fund them. Okay, so how do
[54:30] Speaker 3: you not fund them? Well, there are three things that
[54:32] Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe only a few people participate in this,
[54:34] Speaker 3: but they're called treasury bills, treasury notes, and treasury bonds,
[54:38] Speaker 3: where people buy stock in the government in the hopes
[54:40] Speaker 3: of getting a payoff. Layer don't do that, so you
[54:43] Speaker 3: can decrease your tax liability. So how do you do that.
[54:46] Speaker 3: You can look up places like Freedom Tax Law, it's
[54:50] Speaker 3: a website. Minimize your tax liability so you're not giving
[54:53] Speaker 3: them as much money, and then don't participate. So in
[54:55] Speaker 3: relation to war. I have no idea about exactly what's
[54:59] Speaker 3: going to happen here in relation to war in the future,
[55:01] Speaker 3: but I'm definitely concerned about the moves of Israel and
[55:05] Speaker 3: the demonizing of Iran. I have a special perspective on
[55:08] Speaker 3: that because of Hidden History of Humanity. Because in Hidden
[55:12] Speaker 3: History of Humanity I talk about the primary Atlantean legacy
[55:16] Speaker 3: sites that existed in the Middle East, and they were actually,
[55:20] Speaker 3: guess where, in Palestine and in Iran. This is interesting
[55:24] Speaker 3: that these people were now being slated to be wiped
[55:27] Speaker 3: off the earth, and Palestine has already suffered a great
[55:30] Speaker 3: deal etymologically. You can take Palestine back to Philistine from
[55:36] Speaker 3: the Greek, and you can look at the Philistines as
[55:40] Speaker 3: Atlantean legacies that came over from Crete and several other places.
[55:44] Speaker 3: And it seems as if this agenda from ancient times
[55:47] Speaker 3: is about exterminating our group of humanity. You know, the
[55:53] Speaker 3: sentiment of Reagan. I can't help but think that if
[55:56] Speaker 3: an alien force were here, we would all unite. Well,
[55:59] Speaker 3: guess what, and that's been here the whole time, and
[56:01] Speaker 3: we're still not united. But they are against us, white, black, brown, yellow.
[56:07] Speaker 3: There's a group of people a Homossaurian line, I would
[56:10] Speaker 3: call it. That is the only one that didn't have
[56:14] Speaker 3: a vaccine introduced into its population. So why is that?
[56:19] Speaker 3: Why did twenty three and meteris Ancestry and all the
[56:21] Speaker 3: rest of those people collect that data supposedly with an
[56:23] Speaker 3: agenda of creating vaccines that would wipe out specific genetics.
[56:28] Speaker 3: So when you have this understanding and you look at
[56:30] Speaker 3: the weather warfare, We've seen what happened in North Carolina,
[56:33] Speaker 3: we saw what happened in Lehena, we saw what happened
[56:35] Speaker 3: recently in La Do you really think that government is
[56:38] Speaker 3: out to help you or is it out to kill you?
[56:41] Speaker 3: And if you genuinely believe that it's out to kill you,
[56:44] Speaker 3: for those people who say, well, I want to serve
[56:46] Speaker 3: my country, well this is where the pro world model
[56:48] Speaker 3: of optimal out design has to step to the four
[56:51] Speaker 3: We have to ask ourselves to fundamental questions. Are the
[56:53] Speaker 3: ten basics of civilization being met with optimal efficiency? Is
[56:57] Speaker 3: our water ideal? It's our sanitation? Is our food ideal?
[57:01] Speaker 3: If none of these things are ideal, then your government
[57:04] Speaker 3: isn't ideal and you're not going to serve your country
[57:05] Speaker 3: by going to kill on behalf of people who don't
[57:08] Speaker 3: want you healthy. And eventually the developers are going to
[57:11] Speaker 3: have to be involved in this in a homestead model.
[57:14] Speaker 3: So I want to talk about this in relation to government.
[57:16] Speaker 3: So one of the more neglected of the founding fathers
[57:18] Speaker 3: is John Dickinson. Now his words on freedom are some
[57:22] Speaker 3: of the most important ever ever uttered. So when we
[57:26] Speaker 3: think about freedom in the United States, we talk about
[57:29] Speaker 3: the US Constitution and we talk about the Bill of Rights.
[57:31] Speaker 3: So let's take a clipse look at those for a second.
[57:34] Speaker 3: So we have the preambles of the Constitution, which most
[57:36] Speaker 3: people know, but it quickly leads to Article one. And
[57:39] Speaker 3: what do we get in Article one? After this long
[57:41] Speaker 3: speech about securing the freedom to the world taxation? They
[57:46] Speaker 3: can't wait to tax you. It's right in Article one. Okay,
[57:50] Speaker 3: So what happened to all this talk about freedom just
[57:52] Speaker 3: suddenly disappeared? And then some people will say, Okay, we'll
[57:56] Speaker 3: wait a minute. I guess I can amend that maybe
[57:58] Speaker 3: the Constitution isn't the real champion. It's a bill of rights.
[58:00] Speaker 3: It's a bill of rights. Is the wonderful thing because
[58:02] Speaker 3: in build in article number one, the very first one,
[58:06] Speaker 3: you have these five freedoms that were guaranteed. Well, okay,
[58:11] Speaker 3: how important are those freedoms. We've seen what's happened during
[58:14] Speaker 3: this scandemic. We saw freedom of religion, Well, you weren't
[58:17] Speaker 3: allowed to gather at religious gatherings. Freedom of assembly, Well,
[58:21] Speaker 3: you weren't allowed to gather an assemble when you wanted to.
[58:24] Speaker 3: You know, they would disperse you and you know, arrest
[58:26] Speaker 3: you if you weren't following procedures when you were trying
[58:28] Speaker 3: to assemble. Petition the government, Well you've got banned off
[58:31] Speaker 3: social media. You just got kicked right out. Freedom of speech.
[58:34] Speaker 3: Oh wow, I mean so many people could make comments
[58:37] Speaker 3: about the limitations on free speech that we've seen. So
[58:41] Speaker 3: what did John Dickinson say about freedom? He said the following,
[58:44] Speaker 3: We cannot be happy if we are not free. We
[58:48] Speaker 3: cannot be free unless we are secure in our property.
[58:52] Speaker 3: We cannot be secure in our property if without our
[58:55] Speaker 3: consent others may take it away. So in our country
[59:00] Speaker 3: we have the Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths
[59:04] Speaker 3: to be self evident, that all men are created equal.
[59:06] Speaker 3: They are endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights,
[59:08] Speaker 3: and among these are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness
[59:11] Speaker 3: and secure these rights. Governments are instituted among men, and
[59:15] Speaker 3: it is right there that I would insert the needles
[59:17] Speaker 3: scratching across the record sound and stop and say no no,
[59:21] Speaker 3: to secure those rights. It shouldn't be that governments are
[59:24] Speaker 3: instituted among men. It should be that homesteads are instituted
[59:28] Speaker 3: among men, so that everyone has the right to their
[59:31] Speaker 3: own property and no one can take it away from them.
[59:33] Speaker 3: Because if you have that freedom, then you're free from
[59:37] Speaker 3: the workplace tyranny, you know, because you can always go
[59:39] Speaker 3: to your home, grow your own food, and you're all set. Okay,
[59:42] Speaker 3: you have your own independent water supply, And yes, that
[59:44] Speaker 3: can be done. I have specific ways that that can
[59:47] Speaker 3: be done, and eventually we can create economies that are free,
[59:51] Speaker 3: the ultimate way to be rid of big business. We've
[59:55] Speaker 3: seen these five hundred million dollars investments supposedly coming up
[59:58] Speaker 3: for AI. If we invested that money instead in the
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: direction of plasma physics, we would eventually complete a progression
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: that's gone on since antionent times. This is the progression
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: from arts and crafts to mills, which were driven let's say,
[1:00:13] Speaker 3: by rivers and water wheels. Two factories where you have
[1:00:18] Speaker 3: the beginnings of electricity in the production a facility, to robotics,
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: to CNC machines, computerized americal control machines, to three D printers,
[1:00:27] Speaker 3: to ultimately I believe it will hit a cynotron. A
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: cymatron is a device I posited in my fiction uses plasma. Now,
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: plasma you can obtain from water, and if you hit
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: plasma with a right vibration, I believe you can create
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: a three D model hologram of what you want to exist.
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: Project the hologram into the plasma, miss fuse the plasma
[1:00:46] Speaker 3: into the hologram and manifest the matter that you want.
[1:00:50] Speaker 3: So this would be economy where the means of production
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: are finally in the hands of the individual. I mean classically,
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: the debate was do we have the means of production
[1:00:58] Speaker 3: in the hands of the government or thes What if
[1:01:00] Speaker 3: it was in the hands of the individual who had
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: their own little facility, maybe next to their garage, where
[1:01:06] Speaker 3: they could manifest whatever product they want. If we invest
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: in that direction in plasma physics, that's how we would
[1:01:12] Speaker 3: get to that point and we could be free at last.
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: But if we're ultimately going to optimally out design government,
[1:01:18] Speaker 3: I would suggest the following. I would suggest I had
[1:01:21] Speaker 3: to invent these words. So bear with me a second
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: natureators and a vitorium. So I know that a lot
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: of times people present me with false choices. You know,
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: you have to do this or that. So it's either
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: big government and the rule of law, which is not
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: the rule of the jungle, clarifies George Bush, or you
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: have total anarchy. Well anarchy. I know there's people who
[1:01:39] Speaker 3: are on the anarchy bandwalking bandwagon right now. You have
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: James Corbitt, you have Mike Adams. I would suggest something
[1:01:45] Speaker 3: between the two, the natureators and the vitorium, and what
[1:01:50] Speaker 3: the natureators would be. Natureators would be experts who are
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: skilled in coordinating the relationship of a society to nature.
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: So you have to provide water for your society, right,
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: do that in coordination with nature. Work with nature, don't
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: work against it. And do the same thing with sanitation,
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: food and all the rest of them. Then the vitorium
[1:02:10] Speaker 3: is a place where you keep statistics with your focus
[1:02:13] Speaker 3: constantly on life, primarily three aspects of life infant mortality, morbidity,
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: and life span in relation to the ten basics of civilization.
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: How are you meeting these needs? In such a way
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: as to optimize all human life. You have a building
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: which has expertise in all the ten basics of civilization.
[1:02:35] Speaker 3: How an independent homestead can meet all the ten basics
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: of civilization and do so in such a way that
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: life is promoted. So with big government, they have these
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: classic three distractions. You'll see them in every political debate,
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: and everyone somehow thinks this is original. But whatever, you
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: have jobs, taxes, and wars, So you have a political debate,
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: So what are you going to do about jobs? Then
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: they have blah blah blah blah blah, what are you
[1:02:58] Speaker 3: going to do about taxes? Blah blah bla law switching
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: gears And you're not switching gears at all, because you're
[1:03:02] Speaker 3: stuck in reverse in all cases. But what are you
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: going to do about the wars? And the answer to
[1:03:08] Speaker 3: those questions, I can just give it to you right now.
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: Get rid of all three of them. I mean, none
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: of them should exist. We shouldn't be doing mindless tasks
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: for soulist corporations. That's not what we're here to do.
[1:03:18] Speaker 3: We're here to meet the ten basics of civilization and
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: execute those tasks with great efficiency and skill and arts
[1:03:25] Speaker 3: and love and kindness and decency. If we do that,
[1:03:29] Speaker 3: then we have a different model of government, okay. And
[1:03:33] Speaker 3: if we move in that direction, we would have a
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: pro world vitorium instead of a government that is ruling
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: by so called rule of law. Because if the cabal
[1:03:42] Speaker 3: is running the government, then when they write the laws,
[1:03:44] Speaker 3: those laws serve them, they do not serve us. So
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: it's not this great triumph that we need to have
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: all these laws in the first place. What I believe
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: we should not be governed by the rule of law,
[1:03:57] Speaker 3: but guided by harmony with nature, and that would be
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: what if vitorium does one.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: And one of the things that I'd add is something
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: I did a while back, is get as far away
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: from a big city as possible. I'd still like to
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: get more rural as far as where I'm living, but
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: I think that that's a huge step for people to take,
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: is get out of any big cities. There's a huge
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: move to further implement a mass surveillance state, especially with
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: the moves disadministration is making. A lot of people don't
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: hear about it, but it's happening. I think the big
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: cities is probably one of the worst places you can
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: be if you're an aware person.
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: And we have to watch out for the strategy because
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: the bad guys know that if we become independent have
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: homesteads that are outside the big cities, they have strategies waiting.
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: And that's what these drones and a lot of these
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: space based weapons are for. You know, you have a
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: thriving community that is outside the big cities, they're going
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: to try to burn you outright, They're going to try
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: to start setting. You were asking at the opening about
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: some of the drones, and I was mentioning a little
[1:05:03] Speaker 3: bit about the thermite stuff. So apparently some of these things,
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: when you, for example, drop aluminum, aluminum can trigger fires
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: when it's pulsed with certain weapons and stuff like that.
[1:05:14] Speaker 3: So basically they're seeding fires. It's like placing accelerants on
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: the ground to burn people out of an area where
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: they could be free. So I think, in relation to
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: the big weapons, which I know is a great fear
[1:05:27] Speaker 3: that a number of people have, I'm not going to
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: necessarily recommend that we focus on the big weapons and
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: then trying to out weapon the big weapons. I think
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: it's much more effective to get to the heart of
[1:05:38] Speaker 3: the matter, to reach out to our fellow human beings
[1:05:41] Speaker 3: and say, is this really where you want to go?
[1:05:44] Speaker 3: I mean, do you really want us all dead? Do
[1:05:46] Speaker 3: you really want humans to no longer be human, to
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: no longer have a soul just for the sake of
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: running a little bit faster or thinking a little bit
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: more quickly. And do you really not understand that the
[1:05:58] Speaker 3: paradise that we've all sought is now possible if we
[1:06:01] Speaker 3: just work with nature and use insights that we already have.
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: There are only a handful of governments on the planet,
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: you know, maybe Hungary, maybe El Salvador. Recently Romania came
[1:06:11] Speaker 3: close and then had yanked away, just like France did.
[1:06:13] Speaker 3: But we're seeing what's happening now in the EU where
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: Germany is getting ready to pull out. That's the largest
[1:06:19] Speaker 3: economy in the EU. If they pull out, that's going
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: to be a big blow to the globalist plans. France
[1:06:23] Speaker 3: is getting close, Britain had its Brexit. And I'm not
[1:06:26] Speaker 3: saying that all these things are going to be one
[1:06:27] Speaker 3: hundred percent positive. I know, in Canada's case, they may
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: put in a WEF puppet in place once Trudeau's gone whatever.
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that the consciousness is changing. People
[1:06:36] Speaker 3: are catching on that the farmers are rebelling. They want
[1:06:39] Speaker 3: to get the food back. People want to have independent
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: food supplies. But if we're going to get to this point,
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: we do need somebody to finally get it that this
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: isn't going to work, that we're all going to die
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: if we stay on the trajectory that we're on. Declare sovereignty,
[1:06:53] Speaker 3: start working with nature, start building that example of a
[1:06:56] Speaker 3: positive community, because, as throw says, as long as there's
[1:07:00] Speaker 3: some goodness somewhere that will levin the whole lump, you know,
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: So promote that pro world model somewhere, you know, create
[1:07:08] Speaker 3: some isolated sovereign community that is setting a better example
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: and that could impact the whole world. Till then, I'm
[1:07:15] Speaker 3: just going to share the concepts of how to do
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: it and see if anyone cares.
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: Right on, I love it.
[1:07:20] Speaker 1: This is fantastic information. We're definitely going to have to
[1:07:24] Speaker 1: dive back in and keep exploring some of these possibilities.
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: Thank you again, Tim.
[1:07:30] Speaker 1: Before we close out, remind the audience how they can
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: find all your content.
[1:07:35] Speaker 3: So if you use the Google search engine for now,
[1:07:37] Speaker 3: just type in the company name Polytope Press Polytope is
[1:07:40] Speaker 3: po l Ytpe Space Press, and you can find the
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: links to all of my books, including Natural Healing and
[1:07:48] Speaker 3: Self Empowerment in the History of Humanity, Math Wizard, and
[1:07:50] Speaker 3: a lot more. And I do encourage people to visit
[1:07:53] Speaker 3: let me know what they think. There's a lot of
[1:07:55] Speaker 3: free material there, including articles in the recommended reading list,
[1:07:58] Speaker 3: and you can learn a lot of things without spending
[1:08:00] Speaker 3: any money if you like. And it is encouraging to
[1:08:02] Speaker 3: me to hear from people that are making their lives better. Still,
[1:08:04] Speaker 3: I do encourage you to communicate.
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: Awesome, Tim, Thank you so much fantastic stuff. Like I said,
[1:08:10] Speaker 1: we'll be doing it again soon. And until next time, everyone,
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: have a wonderful evening. We will talk again on Monday.
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: We'll see y all. Then.
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: Today I want to welcome Samantha Burnell. She is a
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: biological dental hygienist with twenty three years of experience in
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: all aspects of the dental profession. She is owner of
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: Last Green Valley Dental Consulting and Mentoring. She is proud
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: to be a member and on the International Academy of
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: Biological Dentistry and Medicine Board. She left a lucrative career
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: in the corporate dental industry after building the largest group
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: in her state. Because she believes private equity has no
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: place in patient care, she now helps Dennis avoid the
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: pitfalls of corporate medicine and promotes ethical practices in dentistry.
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: Samantha, welcome, How are you doing.
[1:09:07] Speaker 4: I'm good, Thank you, Thank you for having me.
[1:09:09] Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on. I'm really looking forward
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: to this discussion. We're going to talk about your experiences
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: with the dental industry and the unfortunate corporate takeover and
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: some of the current toxic and harmful practices that occur
[1:09:25] Speaker 1: within this dental industry, as well as I'd love to
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: get into some personal solutions for dental health, such as
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: natural healing practices. And this is the unfortunate state of
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: many of our systems, including our health care, education, economic systems.
[1:09:44] Speaker 1: All of these things that we fundamentally rely on have
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: been tainted and destroyed because of the corporate greed and
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: layers of hidden agendas behind everything thing that we rely on.
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to getting your insights into this
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: and learning a little bit about what goes on behind
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: the dentalal industry because I'm not really familiar myself. I
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: have my own traumatic experiences with d industry, but that's
[1:10:16] Speaker 1: a whole different topic. So this is your first time on,
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: Let's start with a little bit about yourself, your background,
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: and what brought you to where you're at now.
[1:10:28] Speaker 4: Great, So I am a technically, I'm a biological dental hygienist.
[1:10:32] Speaker 4: So I'm certified as a biological hygienist through the International
[1:10:36] Speaker 4: Academy the Biological Dentistry and Medicine, which I also sit
[1:10:41] Speaker 4: on the board for, and that is more recent in
[1:10:43] Speaker 4: my career. I've been involved with that organization since right
[1:10:47] Speaker 4: around COVID, so about five years. I've been really heavily
[1:10:50] Speaker 4: involved with that group. And the story as to how
[1:10:54] Speaker 4: I got pushed into that kind of goes back to
[1:10:56] Speaker 4: the whole corporate takeover of dentistry. So I've been in
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: the profession for about twenty two years. I've done you know,
[1:11:04] Speaker 4: every job in the dental office, dental assistant, administrative work.
[1:11:09] Speaker 4: I built the largest DSO in my state, which is
[1:11:11] Speaker 4: a dental group. And then I was working in a
[1:11:16] Speaker 4: corporate environment and making you know, a lot a lot
[1:11:19] Speaker 4: of money and it just didn't feel right to my
[1:11:22] Speaker 4: heart as to the patient care and the way the
[1:11:25] Speaker 4: employees were being treated. So I ended up walking away
[1:11:28] Speaker 4: from the company that I had built, you know, alongside
[1:11:32] Speaker 4: with another dentist, to kind of start off on my
[1:11:35] Speaker 4: own and build another dental group with another practitioner who
[1:11:38] Speaker 4: I felt was providing really high level of care. And
[1:11:42] Speaker 4: you know, we had the same big dreams of building
[1:11:44] Speaker 4: like our little group and doing things, you know, textbook dentistry,
[1:11:49] Speaker 4: and then COVID happened, and that basically just kind of
[1:11:54] Speaker 4: completely crushed the dental profession. You know, we haven't really
[1:11:58] Speaker 4: recovered all the way from the impacts of what happened
[1:12:01] Speaker 4: during COVID to the dental profession as a whole. And
[1:12:04] Speaker 4: it also was definitely opening up the doors to let
[1:12:08] Speaker 4: these corporations come in and take over the dental field
[1:12:10] Speaker 4: at a faster pace than it was before COVID. And
[1:12:14] Speaker 4: you know, the dental profession isn't isolated. It's nothing new.
[1:12:17] Speaker 4: It's the same old, you know, consolidating buying practices, consolidating
[1:12:22] Speaker 4: them under one umbrella, you know, putting in your you know,
[1:12:25] Speaker 4: this is what you have to do, controlling the operations
[1:12:29] Speaker 4: and then bundling them and selling them off. You know,
[1:12:32] Speaker 4: to private equity. So it's the same as what they
[1:12:35] Speaker 4: did to the medical industry. It's the same thing they're
[1:12:37] Speaker 4: doing in veterinary and dermatology. I mean, they're even doing
[1:12:41] Speaker 4: all these things in garbage collecting and car sales, and
[1:12:45] Speaker 4: there's no So the dental profession was isolated a little
[1:12:48] Speaker 4: bit because it was a little harder to consolidate Dennis,
[1:12:52] Speaker 4: because most dentists have their for a long long time,
[1:12:54] Speaker 4: would have their own little practices. But after the medical
[1:12:57] Speaker 4: profession kind of you know, was able to do what
[1:13:00] Speaker 4: they did there, dentistry was easy pickens after that.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: Well, great introduction.
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: Before we get too far into the fundamental problems with
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: dentistry the corporate takeover, tell us a little bit about
[1:13:14] Speaker 1: what biological dentistry is.
[1:13:18] Speaker 4: The biological dentistry is basically what we believe in is
[1:13:24] Speaker 4: the body as a whole, you know, and somehow the
[1:13:27] Speaker 4: mouth got disconnected from the rest of the body. You know,
[1:13:30] Speaker 4: during Rockefeller Medicine and all that stuff. It was kind
[1:13:34] Speaker 4: of like as if the head is just floating above
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: the body sitting down on it. But really, you know
[1:13:40] Speaker 4: that the mouth is the window to the health of
[1:13:43] Speaker 4: your body, and you know, ancient Chinese medicine and Arabatic medicine,
[1:13:47] Speaker 4: the first thing they would do was look at your tongue,
[1:13:50] Speaker 4: and you know, look at your eyes and your ears,
[1:13:52] Speaker 4: and those things have completely been lost in the dental
[1:13:55] Speaker 4: profession and it's basically been turned into like you know,
[1:13:58] Speaker 4: where tooth carpenters now. But something we do has any
[1:14:02] Speaker 4: effect on the rest of the body because it's you know,
[1:14:04] Speaker 4: floating above the body, not attached. So biological dentistry really
[1:14:09] Speaker 4: focuses on the systemic impact of oral health. We believe
[1:14:13] Speaker 4: in you know, terrain theory and you know, making sure
[1:14:15] Speaker 4: the body is healthy and removing any obstacles and that
[1:14:20] Speaker 4: might interfere with a body being healthy, which a lot
[1:14:22] Speaker 4: of times can happen during the practice of dentistry. We
[1:14:26] Speaker 4: try to use you know, every material we use in
[1:14:29] Speaker 4: dentistry is going to have some level of toxicity, but
[1:14:32] Speaker 4: we want to make sure we use you know, anything
[1:14:34] Speaker 4: you put in your body for and su is going
[1:14:36] Speaker 4: to have some sort of reactions, So we try to
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: focus on using least reactive materials, you know, doing it
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: person by person, you know, not one size fits all
[1:14:46] Speaker 4: kind of dentistry, and minimally invasive dentistry, so you know,
[1:14:51] Speaker 4: just not putting any extra toxic burdens on the body
[1:14:54] Speaker 4: as little as poss excellent.
[1:14:56] Speaker 1: Earlier, you said that during COVID it may ma did
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: it easier for this corporate takeover before COVID? Did you
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: notice a drastic difference in the dental practices versus afterwards?
[1:15:14] Speaker 4: So really what happened during COVID was they kind of
[1:15:18] Speaker 4: relegated us to being like a hairdresser, like it wasn't
[1:15:21] Speaker 4: necessary for us to be open. We weren't, you know,
[1:15:25] Speaker 4: the critical providers. We got shut down like everybody else,
[1:15:28] Speaker 4: and that was just catastrophic, especially because when you're working
[1:15:33] Speaker 4: in the dental profession, one of the biggest things we
[1:15:36] Speaker 4: focus on when you're in school and after is infection control.
[1:15:40] Speaker 4: You know, we the dental profession, we are so above
[1:15:43] Speaker 4: and beyond what we do for infection control, above any
[1:15:46] Speaker 4: other medical profession. I mean, we wear Universal Precaution PPE
[1:15:51] Speaker 4: for every single patient, and we're told that that protects
[1:15:55] Speaker 4: us from everything. So then all of a sudden, COVID
[1:15:57] Speaker 4: comes out and they're like, oh, whatever you've been do
[1:16:00] Speaker 4: one is not protecting you, as if this was some
[1:16:03] Speaker 4: kind of virus that has like teeth and fingers that's
[1:16:05] Speaker 4: gonna rip through your mask that no other virus could
[1:16:08] Speaker 4: ever get through before. And it makes you think, like, well,
[1:16:11] Speaker 4: if this is getting through my you know, level three
[1:16:14] Speaker 4: standard protocol mask, what else has been getting through this
[1:16:18] Speaker 4: mask all these years? And like is it really all that?
[1:16:21] Speaker 4: And why are we so cautious about infection control if
[1:16:25] Speaker 4: they just act like we're just you know, in here,
[1:16:28] Speaker 4: you know, like not cleaning rooms. And then it was
[1:16:31] Speaker 4: very difficult to come back from the profession because people
[1:16:34] Speaker 4: were scared to death, the providers. You know, we lost
[1:16:38] Speaker 4: a huge percentage of den all care workers during COVID
[1:16:41] Speaker 4: because they all of a sudden realized they worked at
[1:16:43] Speaker 4: a mouth where there's germs. I guess they didn't get
[1:16:45] Speaker 4: that memo, you know, but prior to COVID. But it
[1:16:49] Speaker 4: was just really interesting how people came back and were
[1:16:52] Speaker 4: just too scared to even work on patients. And then
[1:16:55] Speaker 4: when we did come back, the regulations that were in
[1:16:57] Speaker 4: place were ridiculous to begin with and extremely toxic to
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: the healthcare workers. So you know, we would have to
[1:17:04] Speaker 4: like see you know, an hour in between patients, and
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: we'd have to fumigate the rooms with super toxic aerosol
[1:17:11] Speaker 4: chemicals with no ventilation in the practices, and it was just,
[1:17:16] Speaker 4: you know, it was and wearing N ninety five masks
[1:17:19] Speaker 4: over another mask, over another mask, and which by OSHA guidelines,
[1:17:25] Speaker 4: you can't even wear an OSHA an N ninety five
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: mask without being fit tested and have medical approval that
[1:17:30] Speaker 4: you're healthy enough to not receive oxygen all day. So
[1:17:34] Speaker 4: we were just it was it was a crazy time.
[1:17:37] Speaker 4: I mean, we had the things we were doing was
[1:17:40] Speaker 4: like so against what normal infection control made sense, like
[1:17:44] Speaker 4: reusing N ninety five masks for days at a time,
[1:17:47] Speaker 4: Like you're breathing your own germs and bacteria into that
[1:17:51] Speaker 4: and you're just covering it with another mask, and it's
[1:17:53] Speaker 4: just disgusting that people are putting these same day's old
[1:17:56] Speaker 4: masks back on their face day after day. And the
[1:18:00] Speaker 4: chemicals and it was just it was a really, really
[1:18:02] Speaker 4: really crazy time. And there was never any outbreaks in
[1:18:06] Speaker 4: the dental office for COVID, you know, again because we
[1:18:09] Speaker 4: practiced such high standards of infection control to begin with.
[1:18:13] Speaker 4: But then when we came back, you know, because nobody
[1:18:16] Speaker 4: wanted to come back from you know, living the dream
[1:18:19] Speaker 4: at home, getting paid to like eat bon bonds and
[1:18:22] Speaker 4: go hiking. Like everybody was like, well, we kind of
[1:18:25] Speaker 4: don't like the dental profession anymore. So people are everybody's
[1:18:28] Speaker 4: got remote jobs, and you know, it's just there's such
[1:18:31] Speaker 4: a shortage now that a lot of the dentists that
[1:18:33] Speaker 4: were towards, you know, the end of their careers, some
[1:18:37] Speaker 4: of them couldn't even reopen their doors because they had
[1:18:39] Speaker 4: no employees to come back to open them up with.
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: And then the butchers come in and they they like
[1:18:46] Speaker 4: it was like it was like taking candy from a baby.
[1:18:48] Speaker 4: Buying a solo practitioner dental offices after COVID because they
[1:18:53] Speaker 4: were the dentists were so scared they were, and supply
[1:18:57] Speaker 4: costs tripled. You know, a box of gloves used to
[1:19:00] Speaker 4: be five dollars and now they're twenty five dollars, and
[1:19:02] Speaker 4: that never normalized, that never came back down. So even
[1:19:06] Speaker 4: to this day with the shortage and staffing and in
[1:19:09] Speaker 4: an increase in overhead, and then to get your employees back,
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: you basically had to offer them like a fifty percent
[1:19:15] Speaker 4: pay increase, you know, and then when they did come back,
[1:19:20] Speaker 4: you can't like hould anybody accountable for anything because there's
[1:19:24] Speaker 4: such a high demand, so there's no loyalty in the
[1:19:26] Speaker 4: practice anymore. You know, the workers just go off to
[1:19:30] Speaker 4: the highest bidder. If you don't, you know, let me
[1:19:33] Speaker 4: call out sick for COVID three times a week in
[1:19:34] Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, then you know, I'll just go to
[1:19:37] Speaker 4: the next guy that does. So it's it's really created
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: like a serious, serious problem in the Donald Professor, right.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: And I'm running into some of these problems with dentistry myself.
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's just because it's after COVID
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: and things have declined so much. It had been a
[1:19:54] Speaker 1: while since I had gone and see the dentist because
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: I had such terrible experiences with it. But recently I
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: had a little bit of an infection which I was
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: forced to take care of for the most part myself,
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: because like you said, these offices aren't open all the time.
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: You can't get in for an emergency dental appointment. And
[1:20:14] Speaker 1: with infections, like you said, you make that a priority
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: because it's your head and the infection can go to
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: your brain and kill you, and all kinds of horrible
[1:20:24] Speaker 1: things can happen. But when I called the office. It
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: was like, it wasn't even a big deal. We may
[1:20:29] Speaker 1: have an appointment in a couple of months, who knows.
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: So I finally managed to make an appointment to get
[1:20:35] Speaker 1: it taken care of. But this was like this with
[1:20:39] Speaker 1: a few different offices that I've tried, and unfortunately I'm
[1:20:43] Speaker 1: self employed. I currently do not have dental insurance. I'm
[1:20:47] Speaker 1: working on getting business insurance and all that stuff, but
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: it's a huge hassle whenever you don't work for a
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: company that provides insurance and all of this, because it's
[1:20:58] Speaker 1: ridiculously to get dental care. So there are some of
[1:21:03] Speaker 1: the little fundamental problems that I've run into, but it
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: just speaks to some of the things that are happening
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: right now, especially with not being able to get in
[1:21:13] Speaker 1: for an emergency appointment.
[1:21:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's because a lot of offices,
[1:21:20] Speaker 4: like I said, they close their short staff, they can't
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: take patients, and then they page the offices that do
[1:21:28] Speaker 4: you know that, like the DSO is, the Dell Service Organizations,
[1:21:31] Speaker 4: they they don't have any qualms about tripled up, you know,
[1:21:35] Speaker 4: booking people in case one of them doesn't show up
[1:21:38] Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Which is just like such a
[1:21:40] Speaker 4: low quality of care that it's more about volume with them,
[1:21:44] Speaker 4: so you know, they'll rush you in and rush you out,
[1:21:46] Speaker 4: and it just it gets very factory like. And dental insurance,
[1:21:50] Speaker 4: to be honest with you, isn't really insurance. It's not
[1:21:53] Speaker 4: like healthcare insurance. It doesn't you just not like you
[1:21:57] Speaker 4: have something wrong. You go there and they pay for it,
[1:21:59] Speaker 4: you know, they give you a little chunk of money,
[1:22:02] Speaker 4: you know, somewhere between one thousand and two thousand dollars
[1:22:05] Speaker 4: a year, and they say, well, this is what you
[1:22:07] Speaker 4: have to spend, but we're going to dictate how you
[1:22:09] Speaker 4: get to spend it, you know, and we have to
[1:22:11] Speaker 4: ask them everything. And rarely anything is covered at one
[1:22:15] Speaker 4: hundred percent under deal insurance anymore, and those that hasn't
[1:22:18] Speaker 4: changed since the seventies. And that's another huge reason why
[1:22:21] Speaker 4: these offices are having trouble staying open and participating with
[1:22:25] Speaker 4: insurance because of all the increase in overhead, and the
[1:22:29] Speaker 4: insurance companies aren't doing anything to increase their fees and
[1:22:32] Speaker 4: they're you know, they're taking millions and millions and dollars
[1:22:35] Speaker 4: in pay every year. So then what happens is you know,
[1:22:39] Speaker 4: the ds those again, they have the opportunity to come in.
[1:22:41] Speaker 4: They just care about volumes, so they'll get in network
[1:22:44] Speaker 4: with the lowest paying providers, and then that, you know,
[1:22:47] Speaker 4: makes it difficult for the single offices to compete with
[1:22:52] Speaker 4: those DSOs. So a lot of them now are dropping insurance.
[1:22:56] Speaker 4: You know a lot of dental offices are dropping insurance again.
[1:23:00] Speaker 4: And the only person that is suffering in all these
[1:23:02] Speaker 4: scenarios is the patient. It's always the patient that suffers,
[1:23:05] Speaker 4: and nobody stops and says, hey, you know, maybe if
[1:23:08] Speaker 4: we all got together and went against these insurance companies,
[1:23:11] Speaker 4: then we could do something together. But the side to
[1:23:14] Speaker 4: that is a lot of these insurance companies have collecting
[1:23:16] Speaker 4: bargain collective bargaining things in place where the dentists aren't
[1:23:20] Speaker 4: allowed to do that. They're not even allowed to get
[1:23:22] Speaker 4: together and say, you know, you have to pay us more.
[1:23:25] Speaker 4: They get in trouble for that. So it's just it's
[1:23:28] Speaker 4: such a convoluted system that it's almost it's very difficult
[1:23:33] Speaker 4: to navigate through. And that's another reason why dentists go
[1:23:36] Speaker 4: into the ds SO model, because you know, what a
[1:23:38] Speaker 4: DSO says to a doctor is you get to just
[1:23:41] Speaker 4: do your dentistry, and we'll handle all the operations and
[1:23:45] Speaker 4: all the management will do your HR and your marketing
[1:23:47] Speaker 4: and your billing and your staffing, and you just get
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: to go in and do your dentistry. But you know,
[1:23:54] Speaker 4: there's always the carrot that's dangling somewhere. But you have
[1:23:57] Speaker 4: to do this much work per day. You have to
[1:24:00] Speaker 4: crease this much per month, and you have to increase
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: this much per year, and we want to see this
[1:24:04] Speaker 4: many crowns and this many root canals and blah blah blah.
[1:24:07] Speaker 4: So it's you trade off one to get another, and
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: a lot of that.
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little bit more about the corporate
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: takeover of dentistry.
[1:24:14] Speaker 2: And you mentioned.
[1:24:16] Speaker 1: DSOs also the fact that after COVID it was easier
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: for this corporatization process to further proceed. But it seems
[1:24:27] Speaker 1: like ever since I was a small child, the integration
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: was there, or at least starting to be there. And
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: there was some things that I noticed even growing up
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: that made me scratch my head, like why are they
[1:24:40] Speaker 1: giving away lollipops after each appointment if this is supposed
[1:24:45] Speaker 1: to be promoting healthy teeth. I've had instances where my
[1:24:49] Speaker 1: dentists weren't wearing gloves, the fluoride problem and the toothpaste,
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: some of these things just didn't make sense to me
[1:24:56] Speaker 1: from an early age. But when did this corpor for
[1:25:00] Speaker 1: takeover process start and how did it progress?
[1:25:06] Speaker 4: Well, the DSOs really started in the nineties, you know,
[1:25:09] Speaker 4: a little bit twenty years maybe so after that happened
[1:25:12] Speaker 4: in the medical profession, but it's really ramped up in
[1:25:16] Speaker 4: the past decade. You know, they were kind of just
[1:25:20] Speaker 4: a few big ones out there. Now it's about a
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: twenty percent saguration, So about twenty percent of dentist's work
[1:25:26] Speaker 4: for DSOs and our twenty percent of dental loss are
[1:25:30] Speaker 4: now underneath a corporate ownership and it's growing at like
[1:25:36] Speaker 4: fifteen percent per year. And that also is just you know,
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: it's just it's going to be really bad. You know,
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: it's a very dock in the box model. There's no
[1:25:47] Speaker 4: there's very high turnover. You know, the employees are all replaceable,
[1:25:51] Speaker 4: that kind of mentality. So you know, when I grew up,
[1:25:54] Speaker 4: I had a physician. I had the same physician from
[1:25:56] Speaker 4: the day I was born until he retired when I
[1:25:59] Speaker 4: was thirty five years old. You know, And now I'm
[1:26:01] Speaker 4: part his practice is now part of one of two
[1:26:04] Speaker 4: you know, organizations that are in my state. So I
[1:26:08] Speaker 4: really don't even have a choice where I live because
[1:26:10] Speaker 4: I live in Rhode Island, and you basically get two
[1:26:12] Speaker 4: choices of medical networks that you get to pick from.
[1:26:16] Speaker 4: And that's kind of what's happened in my state now.
[1:26:18] Speaker 4: Is the you know, the couple the DSO that I
[1:26:21] Speaker 4: built is I hate the same monopolizing, But there comes
[1:26:25] Speaker 4: a point when you're the smallest state, you start to
[1:26:27] Speaker 4: monopolize the dental profession and then you know, the DSOs,
[1:26:30] Speaker 4: they get better discounts with the supply companies, they get
[1:26:34] Speaker 4: higher reimbursements from the insurance companies. So it's just it's
[1:26:38] Speaker 4: set up to make an individual dentist fail. It's a
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: very it's structured that way.
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: At this point, tell us a little bit more about
[1:26:45] Speaker 1: the mechanics of a DSO and maybe how we can
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: identify if we're going to be working with one.
[1:26:52] Speaker 4: So, you know, a DSO. Some of them are outwardly
[1:26:55] Speaker 4: a DSO, like you've seen the Aspen Dentals like that.
[1:26:58] Speaker 4: One's all over the place with the same name, but
[1:27:01] Speaker 4: a lot of them. Now when they kind of will
[1:27:03] Speaker 4: have like smaller groups of names, or each practice has
[1:27:06] Speaker 4: its own name, so you don't know that it's an
[1:27:08] Speaker 4: umbrella company behind the scenes, so verse go. You know,
[1:27:13] Speaker 4: just look on the websites and see you know, search
[1:27:15] Speaker 4: there in their search bars, you'll usually find that, oh
[1:27:18] Speaker 4: see our other locations, and you might see a long
[1:27:20] Speaker 4: list of other locations, or just google it. You know,
[1:27:23] Speaker 4: is this name of this practice a dso. But once
[1:27:26] Speaker 4: you get to the practice itself, just call and ask them,
[1:27:29] Speaker 4: you know, are you a solo practitioner? Are you owned
[1:27:32] Speaker 4: by a corporate entity? And the people at the front
[1:27:35] Speaker 4: desk are usually more than happy to complain about the
[1:27:38] Speaker 4: fact that they work for corporate or even ask your
[1:27:41] Speaker 4: hygienis when she's there. They're they're more than happy to
[1:27:45] Speaker 4: tell the truth if you ask for it, and they
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: you know, that's that's the easiest way to figure it out.
[1:27:51] Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about dental insurance and how
[1:27:55] Speaker 1: it's basically a scam.
[1:27:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, so, like I said, they basically give you this
[1:28:01] Speaker 4: little pool of money, and that little pool of money
[1:28:03] Speaker 4: hasn't changed since the seventies, and you know, it's to
[1:28:07] Speaker 4: the point where if you need work. You have to
[1:28:09] Speaker 4: send an X ray in a narrative and intra oral
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: photos of the tooth to prove that the tooth needs
[1:28:15] Speaker 4: the work, and then AI or whatever on the other
[1:28:18] Speaker 4: end is gonna approve or deny the procedure. And then
[1:28:23] Speaker 4: you know that determines if you get paid or not.
[1:28:25] Speaker 4: So for one thing, it slows down the care you have.
[1:28:28] Speaker 4: So if you come in with a broken tooth and
[1:28:31] Speaker 4: you know your tooths are broken and halfier and pain,
[1:28:34] Speaker 4: dental office has to say, well, that's cool, you broke it.
[1:28:39] Speaker 4: We'll send the pre off we'll hear back from them
[1:28:41] Speaker 4: in two to three weeks and then we'll be able
[1:28:43] Speaker 4: to get you in. Don't chew on it in the meantime,
[1:28:45] Speaker 4: because you don't want to break it more, you know,
[1:28:47] Speaker 4: because they get burned because you know, if they don't
[1:28:50] Speaker 4: get that approval and they send it in, then they
[1:28:52] Speaker 4: say no, sorry, you didn't get a preapproval, so we're denying,
[1:28:55] Speaker 4: and then you go through a year of appeals and
[1:28:58] Speaker 4: it's just it's out of control. And at the same breath,
[1:29:01] Speaker 4: I understand why the insurance companies do that, because there
[1:29:03] Speaker 4: are a lot of bad actors in the dental profession,
[1:29:06] Speaker 4: especially in the DSO model, where they want to do
[1:29:09] Speaker 4: treatment that's not necessary. So that's why the insurance companies
[1:29:13] Speaker 4: have become very oversight like that. It's almost we kind
[1:29:17] Speaker 4: of like forced it on ourselves because there are dentis
[1:29:20] Speaker 4: something that don't do the most ethical practices as in
[1:29:22] Speaker 4: any profession.
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: In your talking points, you have what the dental industry
[1:29:27] Speaker 1: doesn't want us to know, as well as some of
[1:29:30] Speaker 1: the toxic practices and materials that are present in the
[1:29:36] Speaker 1: dental industry.
[1:29:39] Speaker 4: Yes, so again, the DSOs are definitely something they want
[1:29:42] Speaker 4: you to kind of be in the dark about because
[1:29:45] Speaker 4: nobody really wants to be a corporate patient. So like
[1:29:49] Speaker 4: I said, they do set those models up now to
[1:29:51] Speaker 4: be very behind the scenes and you know, secret society
[1:29:55] Speaker 4: almost type stuff. And then you know, there is a
[1:29:59] Speaker 4: lot going on in the dental world right now, as
[1:30:02] Speaker 4: I'm sure most of your listeners are aware of the
[1:30:04] Speaker 4: fluoride trial and all that stuff, But there's even when
[1:30:09] Speaker 4: we start talking about fluoride, we can talk about that
[1:30:11] Speaker 4: for you know, for days, but you know, the ADA
[1:30:14] Speaker 4: is out there still, you know, vouching for the fluoride
[1:30:18] Speaker 4: and the other big, big problem in the dental profession.
[1:30:21] Speaker 4: Really for the workers is the exposures that we have
[1:30:25] Speaker 4: to all these toxic things, and mercury is at the
[1:30:28] Speaker 4: top of that list. You know, the silver, these silver
[1:30:31] Speaker 4: amalgam fillings, we have our fifty percent elemental works.
[1:30:35] Speaker 2: Are they still using those?
[1:30:37] Speaker 4: You know, we are still using them in the United States? Yes.
[1:30:42] Speaker 4: And the crazy thing well, the EU actually as of
[1:30:45] Speaker 4: January twenty twenty five is banned them completely, so you
[1:30:48] Speaker 4: cannot import, export, or place mercury amalgam fillings in the EU.
[1:30:53] Speaker 4: The United States, there is something called the minimanaa convention
[1:30:57] Speaker 4: which was we signed in twenty eighteen, said you know,
[1:31:00] Speaker 4: we need to eliminate the use of mercury worldwide. It
[1:31:03] Speaker 4: was like all these countries got together and was like,
[1:31:05] Speaker 4: this is some really toxic stuff. We have to stop
[1:31:08] Speaker 4: using it, Like we have to cut it out. I mean,
[1:31:10] Speaker 4: we stopped using it and hat making in like the
[1:31:13] Speaker 4: early nineteen hundreds, but yet we're putting it in people's
[1:31:15] Speaker 4: teeth still. It's just totally totally crazy and a lot
[1:31:19] Speaker 4: of people think that we don't place it anymore, but
[1:31:21] Speaker 4: that's completely not true. I think statistically, almost fifty percent
[1:31:25] Speaker 4: of dentist in the United States will still place an
[1:31:27] Speaker 4: amalgam filling. They might not place it as the exclusive material,
[1:31:31] Speaker 4: but in their minds again, this is you know, they'll
[1:31:34] Speaker 4: they'll go to the grave saying this, as it lasts longer,
[1:31:38] Speaker 4: it's stronger and it never breaks, which I don't. I
[1:31:43] Speaker 4: agree with that one hundred percent. I see amalgam feelings
[1:31:46] Speaker 4: every day, and it's never the feeling that breaks. It's
[1:31:48] Speaker 4: the tooth next to it, you know, which is even
[1:31:50] Speaker 4: because you structure the feeling. Happened to me, you know
[1:31:56] Speaker 4: that mercury still sit in there with nickel and everything
[1:31:59] Speaker 4: else in it is around your tooth is gone now,
[1:32:02] Speaker 4: And that's what they say, and it's it's just it's
[1:32:04] Speaker 4: crazy to me that that's even their defense at this point.
[1:32:08] Speaker 4: But it's just something that is definitely still done. It's
[1:32:11] Speaker 4: done very widely in public health, which is a huge
[1:32:13] Speaker 4: concern because so many more people are being put into
[1:32:16] Speaker 4: public health. But as of twenty eighteen, with the Minimumic Convention,
[1:32:21] Speaker 4: we weren't supposed to be placing it in children under
[1:32:24] Speaker 4: the age of fifteen, and then any woman that's in
[1:32:28] Speaker 4: child bearing age, so any woman that's like zero to
[1:32:30] Speaker 4: forty five years old, anybody with kidney problems, hypersensitivity. And
[1:32:36] Speaker 4: then you know, the FDA actually came out with that
[1:32:38] Speaker 4: same stance in twenty twenty in September. They kind of
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: snuck out under the radar during COVID when they came
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: out and said we can't be put in mercury in
[1:32:46] Speaker 4: a lot of these people. But no, Dennis know that
[1:32:48] Speaker 4: that stance even happened. And then the ADA says that
[1:32:53] Speaker 4: we shouldn't do it under age six, So they're not
[1:32:56] Speaker 4: even following the regulations that they've signed up for as
[1:33:00] Speaker 4: a country. You know, where it's supposed to be under
[1:33:02] Speaker 4: age fifteen, the EIGHTYA changes it to age six, which
[1:33:05] Speaker 4: is basically just their primary teeth. You know, they don't
[1:33:08] Speaker 4: even have potent teeth by that, so once they get
[1:33:10] Speaker 4: permanent teeth, that's okay to pump them up with mercury.
[1:33:13] Speaker 4: It makes absolutely no sense. And again, like I said,
[1:33:16] Speaker 4: a lot of dentists don't not do, not even know
[1:33:19] Speaker 4: that that is something they should be following. And so
[1:33:22] Speaker 4: there's so much I guess you could call it malpractice
[1:33:25] Speaker 4: being done by Denis. That's placing any dentist, that's placing
[1:33:29] Speaker 4: a mercury filling in this day and age is definitely
[1:33:32] Speaker 4: putting in a patient that it's not supposed to be
[1:33:34] Speaker 4: placed in.
[1:33:35] Speaker 1: Wow, let's talk a little bit about some of the
[1:33:39] Speaker 1: toxic substances that are still used. Of course, fluoride. You
[1:33:43] Speaker 1: mentioned fluoride a few times, and right now there is
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: a fluoride.
[1:33:48] Speaker 2: Trial going on.
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: I haven't really paid much attention to it, have you.
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: Do you understand anything that is coming out of that yet?
[1:33:58] Speaker 4: So the fluoride trial is actually over. So the judge
[1:34:00] Speaker 4: did come out with the ruling and he's said that,
[1:34:03] Speaker 4: you know, flooridating the water poses too high of a
[1:34:06] Speaker 4: risk and that the EPA needs to do something to
[1:34:10] Speaker 4: change that. They can't actually say this is what you
[1:34:14] Speaker 4: have to do. That is not up to their regulatory bodies,
[1:34:17] Speaker 4: and even state by state is how that's going to
[1:34:19] Speaker 4: play out. And since that ruling has come out, I
[1:34:22] Speaker 4: think there's been thirty three counties that have removed flow
[1:34:26] Speaker 4: right from the water. But it's now the ADA is
[1:34:31] Speaker 4: still defending it. The American Academy of Pediatrics is defending
[1:34:34] Speaker 4: it and saying that you know, the loss of IQ
[1:34:36] Speaker 4: is worth the risk to heal a dental cavity and
[1:34:41] Speaker 4: there's now you know, they did a meta analysis, the
[1:34:43] Speaker 4: National Toxicology Program just did a meta analysis of I
[1:34:48] Speaker 4: think it was fifty six and dish studies and they
[1:34:51] Speaker 4: were like, this is crazy. You know, the very point
[1:34:54] Speaker 4: zero zero four percent decrease in one cavity over the
[1:34:59] Speaker 4: lifetime of a isn't definitely not worth the potential risk
[1:35:03] Speaker 4: of loss of an IQ in a child. And that
[1:35:06] Speaker 4: was the only thing they studied was the IQ. I mean,
[1:35:08] Speaker 4: there's so many other things they could have studied, and
[1:35:10] Speaker 4: that child took six years to get through because they
[1:35:14] Speaker 4: kept the EPA kept stalling, installing and stalling. And you know,
[1:35:18] Speaker 4: these are studies they did themselves that are coming back
[1:35:20] Speaker 4: and saying these things are bad. But the Biden administration
[1:35:24] Speaker 4: on the way out actually said the EPA is going
[1:35:27] Speaker 4: to appeal that decision. So now everybody's waiting to see
[1:35:30] Speaker 4: what happens with the new administration if they're going to
[1:35:33] Speaker 4: repeal the appeal or you know, what's going to happen
[1:35:37] Speaker 4: with RFK and AHHS because he's saying, you know, he's
[1:35:40] Speaker 4: going to make a stance against it. But again, it
[1:35:42] Speaker 4: really comes down to the states at the state level
[1:35:45] Speaker 4: how that's going to play out. And then there's also
[1:35:48] Speaker 4: a new lawsuit filed again just recently against six of
[1:35:53] Speaker 4: the major twoth paced companies and even Toms have may
[1:35:57] Speaker 4: and is named because they're owned by I believe Coliate.
[1:36:00] Speaker 4: It's all brought out, yeah, yeah, And so they're getting
[1:36:06] Speaker 4: sued because of basically like false advertising and like rite mouthwashes,
[1:36:11] Speaker 4: they make it like candy flavored and sparkles and children
[1:36:16] Speaker 4: that label that said you know, harmful of swallowed is
[1:36:18] Speaker 4: so small that you can't read it without a magnifying glass.
[1:36:21] Speaker 4: So they're encouraging children to swallow these products that are
[1:36:25] Speaker 4: so toxic for them to swallow. I think there's ten
[1:36:27] Speaker 4: thousand calls made to poison Control every year for kids
[1:36:31] Speaker 4: swallowing toothpastes. And they just like encourage it to be
[1:36:35] Speaker 4: candy smelling and flavored, and the shouldn't be using floor
[1:36:40] Speaker 4: at all until they can spit out, and you know that,
[1:36:44] Speaker 4: and that's a known fact, and these toothape manufacturers are
[1:36:47] Speaker 4: ignoring all that. So that's another really cool, uh legal
[1:36:52] Speaker 4: battle that's coming out.
[1:36:55] Speaker 1: Now, what about mouthwashes, I know recently that they change
[1:36:58] Speaker 1: ingredients and a lot of these big companies mouthwashes like
[1:37:03] Speaker 1: listerine because they had alcohol and all kind of cancer
[1:37:07] Speaker 1: causing crap in there.
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: Have you heard.
[1:37:10] Speaker 1: Anything about the state of the toxicity of a lot
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: of these mouthwashes.
[1:37:17] Speaker 4: I mean, if you just google the ingredients on the
[1:37:19] Speaker 4: back of your mouth washed bottle, you're going to wonder
[1:37:21] Speaker 4: why the hell you're rinsing your mouth out with it?
[1:37:23] Speaker 4: You know, I just look at the color of it,
[1:37:25] Speaker 4: for crying out loud, that's not you know, a man
[1:37:28] Speaker 4: made color that these things are even coming out with.
[1:37:30] Speaker 4: But you know, the problem with mouthwashes is just you know,
[1:37:33] Speaker 4: there's petrochemicals in there, you know, alcohol free or not.
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: You know advice as well, you use the alcohol free tine.
[1:37:40] Speaker 4: Now it's like, okay, but look at all the chemicals
[1:37:42] Speaker 4: in there, And do you have a problem in your
[1:37:45] Speaker 4: mouth that requires you to sterilize it. No, we don't
[1:37:48] Speaker 4: need to settleviise our bodies all the time. You know,
[1:37:51] Speaker 4: do you take an antibiotic every day just so you
[1:37:53] Speaker 4: don't get you know, sick, No, So why do you
[1:37:56] Speaker 4: make a mouthwash every day so you don't get gum disease?
[1:37:59] Speaker 4: If you you know, have an acute problem where you
[1:38:01] Speaker 4: have something going on. There are plenty of natural alternatives
[1:38:05] Speaker 4: to mouthwashes, including the simple salt water. You know, there's
[1:38:08] Speaker 4: nothing more powerful than just rensing your mouth out with
[1:38:11] Speaker 4: some salt and water if you have a little bit
[1:38:13] Speaker 4: of a gum problem, but the other problem. You know,
[1:38:15] Speaker 4: they just wipe out your microbiome. They completely deplete your
[1:38:19] Speaker 4: oral microbiome. They lower the pH in your mouth, which
[1:38:23] Speaker 4: will increase your rate of cavities. If you have metals
[1:38:26] Speaker 4: in your mouth, it's going to corrode those metals, you know.
[1:38:29] Speaker 4: It will off gas the mercury and your fillings. It
[1:38:33] Speaker 4: will corrode your titanium implants and your crowns that are
[1:38:36] Speaker 4: made of metal, your partials, your dentures. You know, same
[1:38:39] Speaker 4: thing with fluoride. If you metal braces in your mouth,
[1:38:41] Speaker 4: it's just corroding and rusting away in your mouth with
[1:38:44] Speaker 4: these things. And it will also because it depletes your microbiome,
[1:38:49] Speaker 4: that kills all your beneficial bacteria that make dietary nitrates.
[1:38:53] Speaker 4: It will decrease your nitric oxide, which keeps your blood
[1:38:55] Speaker 4: vessels and your capillaries relaxed. And it will increase your
[1:38:59] Speaker 4: blood pressure, promote diabetes, and all these other crazy problems
[1:39:03] Speaker 4: just from simply, you know, using an antibiotic in your
[1:39:07] Speaker 4: mouth every day.
[1:39:07] Speaker 2: You mentioned braces.
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: I had braces growing up. I know that they're constantly
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: changing the way and the material they're using for braces.
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: But you're saying that they're toxic as well.
[1:39:21] Speaker 4: Well, we could talk about orthodonics again for two hours
[1:39:25] Speaker 4: and what's wrong with that in the current dentistry. But yeah,
[1:39:28] Speaker 4: I mean anything again, any dental material that we're using
[1:39:32] Speaker 4: is going to have some sort of toxicity, right, So
[1:39:34] Speaker 4: when you get these metal braces that stainless steel and nickel,
[1:39:39] Speaker 4: so you're gonna like, for example, my nephews before I
[1:39:42] Speaker 4: kind of knew about all this, they had traditional orthodonics.
[1:39:46] Speaker 4: And as soon as I found out about all that,
[1:39:48] Speaker 4: I started to be trained in biological I had a
[1:39:51] Speaker 4: hair test taken on them, a hair tissue mineral analysis,
[1:39:55] Speaker 4: and their hair was very high in all the metals
[1:39:58] Speaker 4: that it said at the bottom, likely from dental materials.
[1:40:01] Speaker 4: You know, So there, it's not like you're not exposed
[1:40:04] Speaker 4: to these things. It's crazy to think you're not. And
[1:40:06] Speaker 4: even like the clear aligners, you're eating plastic. You know,
[1:40:11] Speaker 4: you have BPA and all sorts of other you know,
[1:40:14] Speaker 4: plastic pieces that you're just ingesting all the time. But
[1:40:18] Speaker 4: ORTHODONICX is a whole other conversation.
[1:40:21] Speaker 1: I'd like to get into that a little bit, because
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: my worst experiences were with my orthodontist.
[1:40:28] Speaker 2: Aside from the.
[1:40:30] Speaker 1: Man hardly ever using gloves in his patient's mouths, his
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: assistance basically torturing us in different ways. And I've seen
[1:40:40] Speaker 1: kid's mouths bleed and she's still getting him to try
[1:40:42] Speaker 1: and brush because they're not brushing him correctly. These horrible
[1:40:46] Speaker 1: things that would traumatize me. And that's just the stuff
[1:40:50] Speaker 1: I knew about that was happening. So what are some
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: of the things that we should be aware of here?
[1:40:58] Speaker 4: Well, the with the braces and the sometimes that's a
[1:41:01] Speaker 4: reaction to the metal in the mouth, you know. And
[1:41:04] Speaker 4: the one thing that I will say in dentistry is
[1:41:06] Speaker 4: we love to blame the patient. It's always the patient's
[1:41:09] Speaker 4: fault somehow. It can never be anything that we did
[1:41:12] Speaker 4: wrong or introduced into the body that causes these things.
[1:41:16] Speaker 4: It's always the patient's fault. So you know that little
[1:41:19] Speaker 4: child that's bleeding gums, you know, you put a metal
[1:41:22] Speaker 4: bracket right out their gum line. What do you think
[1:41:24] Speaker 4: is going to happen? Black is going to be attached
[1:41:26] Speaker 4: to it. Like I said, it changes the oral flora
[1:41:29] Speaker 4: in your mouth. It creates a metal current in your mouth,
[1:41:32] Speaker 4: so you're literally a walking battery, you know. So you're
[1:41:35] Speaker 4: also going to pull in more radiation from your cell
[1:41:38] Speaker 4: phones and your wifies and all that stuff. But it's
[1:41:41] Speaker 4: always the kid's fault. So you didn't brush good enough,
[1:41:44] Speaker 4: you know, when they take their braces off and their
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: teeth are all decalcified, has nothing to do with the
[1:41:48] Speaker 4: electrical charge of the metal on the teeth that was
[1:41:50] Speaker 4: there for three years. It's always the child's fault. It's
[1:41:53] Speaker 4: always the oh, you didn't use enough fluoride when you
[1:41:55] Speaker 4: had them on. It's always the child's fault as to
[1:41:58] Speaker 4: why those things happen. But the main issue with orthodonics
[1:42:03] Speaker 4: that I have a problem with is the airway issue.
[1:42:05] Speaker 4: So you know, a lot of children when they go
[1:42:09] Speaker 4: through ORTHODONICX, you know, their teeth are being removed and
[1:42:11] Speaker 4: their faces are being made smallers, which then as adults
[1:42:15] Speaker 4: they end up having obstructed sleep atnia and they have
[1:42:17] Speaker 4: to wear seapaths. They become mouth breathers, they get very
[1:42:20] Speaker 4: unhealth So that's a big concern in the you know,
[1:42:24] Speaker 4: with children, is just making sure that when they have orthodonics,
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: it's always expansion techniques and never retraction techniques.
[1:42:31] Speaker 1: Right Another thing that I always hear about is don't
[1:42:36] Speaker 1: ever get a root canal. If you have the choice
[1:42:39] Speaker 1: between getting your tooth pulled and getting a root canal,
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: always just get that thing yanked, because basically everyone I
[1:42:46] Speaker 1: know that has had a root canal has had horrendous problems. Afterwards,
[1:42:51] Speaker 1: there's some sort of infection talk a little bit about
[1:42:54] Speaker 1: what's going on here?
[1:42:57] Speaker 4: What must be your friend's fault. They must have some
[1:43:00] Speaker 4: wrong that they cause that root canals to tail. Yeah,
[1:43:05] Speaker 4: so root canal is another really really big topic right now,
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: because you know, social media has done a lot for that,
[1:43:11] Speaker 4: and the ADA actually tried to Actually I think it
[1:43:15] Speaker 4: was not two months ago, it was October. I believe
[1:43:17] Speaker 4: they came out with a resolution that states that Dennis
[1:43:21] Speaker 4: aren't allowed to say root canals are dangerous to people's
[1:43:24] Speaker 4: health on their social media accounts or publicly. So just
[1:43:28] Speaker 4: that alone kind of tells you they're shaking in their
[1:43:30] Speaker 4: boots because of the fluoride trial, the mercury stuff. It's
[1:43:35] Speaker 4: a dominant effect. And the root canals are next because
[1:43:37] Speaker 4: people have had it up to here. You know, you've
[1:43:39] Speaker 4: got major cardiologists out there speaking out against it now.
[1:43:44] Speaker 4: So basically what a root canal does, and root canals
[1:43:47] Speaker 4: are done for a lot of different reasons. Everybody thinks
[1:43:49] Speaker 4: the tooth had to be infected to get a root canal,
[1:43:51] Speaker 4: but that's that's not always the case, and it's it's
[1:43:54] Speaker 4: maybe the majority of the case, but a lot of
[1:43:56] Speaker 4: root canals are done. Some of them are done like prophylactically, like, oh,
[1:44:01] Speaker 4: we need to do a crown on this tooth, and
[1:44:03] Speaker 4: the existing filling is really close to the nerve, so
[1:44:06] Speaker 4: let's take the nerve out of that tooth, so you don't,
[1:44:09] Speaker 4: like you said, get a toothache later on the tooth
[1:44:11] Speaker 4: after we put the crown on. So that's one way
[1:44:14] Speaker 4: that people get root canals. Another way is, you know
[1:44:16] Speaker 4: they had had a restoration fail, you know, an old
[1:44:19] Speaker 4: mercury filling failed, and they went to put a new
[1:44:22] Speaker 4: filling in it, and the tooth become sensitive after because
[1:44:25] Speaker 4: you know, you did surgery on it. Of course it's
[1:44:27] Speaker 4: going to hurt after the initial their immediate reaction is, oh,
[1:44:30] Speaker 4: we insulted the nerve. Do a root canal. You know,
[1:44:33] Speaker 4: we don't need enough time to let that nerve recover.
[1:44:35] Speaker 4: We don't do the right practices to make the nerve
[1:44:38] Speaker 4: not react like that in the first place. And that's
[1:44:40] Speaker 4: where biological dentistry comes in place, like they can mitigate
[1:44:44] Speaker 4: the chances of those kinds of practices happening in regular
[1:44:48] Speaker 4: general dentistry. They don't particularly care if that ends up
[1:44:51] Speaker 4: meeting a root canal because that's just another income for them.
[1:44:56] Speaker 4: You know. They nobody likes to, you know, have a
[1:44:59] Speaker 4: patient that had a and then they come back and
[1:45:01] Speaker 4: they're like, oh, it hurts, it hurts. You know, we
[1:45:04] Speaker 4: don't not everybody likes to say that they need to
[1:45:06] Speaker 4: have the root canal. But you know, that's what happens.
[1:45:08] Speaker 4: It's never like all right, let me try this, let
[1:45:10] Speaker 4: me try that. You know, sometimes we'll adjust the bite
[1:45:13] Speaker 4: and give them another week and make sure that it
[1:45:15] Speaker 4: wasn't the bite hitting too hard. But nine times out
[1:45:18] Speaker 4: a dead ten, that patient has just shuffled off for
[1:45:20] Speaker 4: endo and that takes the vitality out of the tooth.
[1:45:23] Speaker 4: So you basically disconnect the tooth from your blood supply,
[1:45:27] Speaker 4: and you basically perform taxidermy on a part of your body.
[1:45:31] Speaker 4: That's what happens, and we expect the body to just
[1:45:33] Speaker 4: be okay with that. There's no way, there's no way
[1:45:38] Speaker 4: to completely sterilize a tooth because it has millions miles
[1:45:42] Speaker 4: and miles of canals that run through the tooth that's
[1:45:44] Speaker 4: full of vital nerve tissue. We clean out the big
[1:45:48] Speaker 4: main canals as best we can. Like even in the
[1:45:51] Speaker 4: textbooks for endedonyxu, they say do the best you can
[1:45:53] Speaker 4: because they know you can never get all that so
[1:45:56] Speaker 4: that then you seal that tooth up and then leave
[1:46:00] Speaker 4: all that bacteria in that tooth with food supply because
[1:46:04] Speaker 4: you've left issue in there, so bacteria just it's there.
[1:46:08] Speaker 4: It's their favorite favorite place. So they're like, you've created
[1:46:12] Speaker 4: a literal condominium for me and I never have to
[1:46:15] Speaker 4: leave there. And you know, the immune system then has
[1:46:18] Speaker 4: to work on that every single day. And people say, well,
[1:46:21] Speaker 4: I've had rup canials for forty years and blah blah
[1:46:23] Speaker 4: blah dah dah, and I'm fine, and like we look
[1:46:25] Speaker 4: at their helsters, you're like, you're not fine. You know
[1:46:27] Speaker 4: you have high let bressure, you have arthritis, you you
[1:46:30] Speaker 4: know you have you're tired all the time, you have
[1:46:32] Speaker 4: all the you know, all these things, you're on all
[1:46:34] Speaker 4: these medications. But you know it's the direct correlation is there,
[1:46:39] Speaker 4: and it's been studied and it's it's it's undeniable. Every
[1:46:44] Speaker 4: there's a study with five hundred extracted. We took out
[1:46:47] Speaker 4: five hundred root canals teeth and had had them tested
[1:46:51] Speaker 4: under microscopes. Every single one of them had like the
[1:46:53] Speaker 4: top ten most pathogenic bacteria known to the human body,
[1:46:58] Speaker 4: including candaver bugs, bugs that are living in dead bodies,
[1:47:02] Speaker 4: live inside root canal tooth that and your your bone
[1:47:08] Speaker 4: system can handle that, for it depends on how strong
[1:47:10] Speaker 4: the immune system is. You know, you're sending by blood
[1:47:12] Speaker 4: cells every day, cleaning it up and cleaning it up.
[1:47:14] Speaker 4: So then when something else happens, you know, you get
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: an interference in your body, then other things can creep
[1:47:20] Speaker 4: in you know you and so you know, when you
[1:47:23] Speaker 4: believe in meridians like we do in biological dentistry, like
[1:47:26] Speaker 4: we are energy beings, right, so when you block up
[1:47:29] Speaker 4: something that is flowing energy through your body, how it's
[1:47:32] Speaker 4: like dropping a tree in the middle of a road,
[1:47:34] Speaker 4: so that energy pathway gets completely cut off by a
[1:47:37] Speaker 4: dead tooth, a root canal tooth. So you'll see, you know,
[1:47:40] Speaker 4: all of a sudden, somebody on that meridian, their knees
[1:47:42] Speaker 4: starts hurting, you know, after they've had a root canals,
[1:47:45] Speaker 4: you know, and it's I see it on a regular basis,
[1:47:48] Speaker 4: and it's just it's mind blowing, very interesting. You know,
[1:47:50] Speaker 4: patients that party, all these cardiac patients and these root
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: canals with you know. The other problem with root canals
[1:47:57] Speaker 4: is that when they fail, okay, quote unquote fail, they
[1:48:02] Speaker 4: have to show a radio lucency on an X ray
[1:48:06] Speaker 4: to be quoted a failure. And then half the time
[1:48:08] Speaker 4: they'll do a retreat, they'll do the root canal again,
[1:48:11] Speaker 4: or they will call the end of the roof of
[1:48:13] Speaker 4: the tooth off and pack it from the backside with mercury,
[1:48:17] Speaker 4: and they call that an apicoectomy, which is just it's
[1:48:20] Speaker 4: just blows your mind that these procedures are done on
[1:48:23] Speaker 4: a regular basis, but it's it just it really there's
[1:48:27] Speaker 4: no way to have these things in your body and
[1:48:30] Speaker 4: not have a a toxic burden.
[1:48:33] Speaker 1: Right now, we definitely have to get to some solutions.
[1:48:36] Speaker 1: Before we do, I want to discuss some of the
[1:48:40] Speaker 1: health hazards of working in a dental office and which
[1:48:44] Speaker 1: you've experienced yourself.
[1:48:45] Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about that.
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a huge one, and that's something that a
[1:48:50] Speaker 4: lot of dental professionals don't even really think about. You know,
[1:48:54] Speaker 4: when we think about our personal protective equipment that we wear,
[1:48:58] Speaker 4: it's meant to keep you know, bacteria from getting at
[1:49:00] Speaker 4: us and blood, you know, and so we're highly alert
[1:49:03] Speaker 4: to those things. Like no, we are so ocd about
[1:49:06] Speaker 4: cleanliness in a dental office. It's you know, a hygienessis
[1:49:10] Speaker 4: they don't want like any little spig well cleaning the
[1:49:13] Speaker 4: walls between the rooms with you know, caviside and all
[1:49:16] Speaker 4: these very harsh chemicals which we're breathing in. So that's
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: one thing that we deal with a lot, is you know,
[1:49:23] Speaker 4: just the chemicals that we work with. But what's really
[1:49:26] Speaker 4: really scary for a dental professional is the exposure to
[1:49:29] Speaker 4: the mercury. And even if an office isn't placing mercury fillings,
[1:49:34] Speaker 4: we're exposed to it every single day because all of
[1:49:37] Speaker 4: our patients have mercury fillings in their mouths. So every
[1:49:41] Speaker 4: time you know, a mercury feeling is not stable. That's
[1:49:43] Speaker 4: what they tell you in dental school. Oh it's once
[1:49:45] Speaker 4: you mix it with a nickel and all these other alloys,
[1:49:48] Speaker 4: it becomes inert. That is so far from the truth.
[1:49:50] Speaker 4: And clinical evidence will show you that when a patient
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: wears a nightguard in their teeth, you take it, it
[1:49:56] Speaker 4: turns black, you know, because of the mercury emanating off
[1:49:59] Speaker 4: of the night guard. You know, they have this thing
[1:50:02] Speaker 4: they call it Amaldoon tattoo where the gum tissue near
[1:50:04] Speaker 4: the mercury filling will turn black because of the mercury
[1:50:07] Speaker 4: vapors emanating into the tissue. So when you eat, you're
[1:50:12] Speaker 4: getting mercury vapors. When you drink, you're getting mercury vapors.
[1:50:15] Speaker 4: When you bind your teeth, you're getting mercury vapors. So
[1:50:17] Speaker 4: it's always to twenty four seven release to the patient
[1:50:20] Speaker 4: when you come into the dental office and we polish
[1:50:23] Speaker 4: your teeth or we scale your teeth for it cleaning
[1:50:25] Speaker 4: that in the levels of the mercury goes through the
[1:50:28] Speaker 4: roof like over ocean limits. And this has been tested
[1:50:32] Speaker 4: over and over and over again. I have an office.
[1:50:34] Speaker 4: We have a mercury vapor snipper in the office and
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: we're experimenting with it. And every time that happens that
[1:50:40] Speaker 4: that meter goes off the charts, like you need to
[1:50:42] Speaker 4: clear this building out and call hazard control because you
[1:50:46] Speaker 4: need to shut down. And we do this, and that's
[1:50:48] Speaker 4: just one polishing, one mercury filling, and we're doing dozens
[1:50:52] Speaker 4: and dozens of these things a day. And then when
[1:50:54] Speaker 4: a dentist removes an old mercury filling, all those aerosols
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: that are created with the water and air from the
[1:51:00] Speaker 4: drill are going right into that dentist's face and the
[1:51:03] Speaker 4: assistants face. And dental professionals have like the second highest
[1:51:08] Speaker 4: rate of suicide. It's not because their job is hard,
[1:51:11] Speaker 4: it's because they're exposed to mercury on a daily basis.
[1:51:14] Speaker 4: You know, dental professionals have had so many health problems
[1:51:18] Speaker 4: with imfertility and depression and tremors. I can't even tell
[1:51:22] Speaker 4: you how many dentists I've seen their hands shaped like
[1:51:24] Speaker 4: this and they think it's because oh, my muscles are tight,
[1:51:28] Speaker 4: you know, Well, it's like, no, you have tremors because
[1:51:30] Speaker 4: you have mercury exposure. You know, these are the things
[1:51:33] Speaker 4: that happen when you're exposed twenty four to seven to mercury.
[1:51:36] Speaker 4: That's why when you see a biological dentists and you
[1:51:39] Speaker 4: have a mercury filling taken out of your two you
[1:51:41] Speaker 4: literally look like you're walking into a haz vaccine. The
[1:51:44] Speaker 4: dentist is draped head to toe, the assistance is draped
[1:51:47] Speaker 4: head to toe. A lot of them will wear an
[1:51:48] Speaker 4: oxygen mask. The patient will wear an oxygen mask. The
[1:51:52] Speaker 4: patient will be draped head to toe. You know, they
[1:51:54] Speaker 4: take activated charcoal and we have extra oral you know,
[1:51:58] Speaker 4: suctions that are graded for you know, welding units to
[1:52:02] Speaker 4: take the air out of the room so we don't
[1:52:04] Speaker 4: get poisoned by it. But even doing all that, we're
[1:52:07] Speaker 4: still being exposed to it. And never mind how much
[1:52:10] Speaker 4: of that mercury is getting into the water supply. You know,
[1:52:13] Speaker 4: in a dental office, we're not allowed to throw mercury.
[1:52:15] Speaker 4: Like if your feeling came out, we can't throw that
[1:52:18] Speaker 4: into the garbage can. We'll get shut down by OSHA
[1:52:21] Speaker 4: of the EPA and for putting that into the environment.
[1:52:24] Speaker 4: But when we suction that out, it goes into the
[1:52:26] Speaker 4: water lines. It goes right into the sewer. We have
[1:52:28] Speaker 4: amalgoon traps and you know malcolm separators in the offices.
[1:52:32] Speaker 4: Most offices do. Some people still don't follow that compliance.
[1:52:35] Speaker 4: So one hundred percent of their mercury goes into the
[1:52:37] Speaker 4: water supply, but it's still at least one percent of
[1:52:42] Speaker 4: that sludge gets into the water. You can't you can't,
[1:52:45] Speaker 4: you can't take away all of the mercury, and all
[1:52:47] Speaker 4: of that gets into the local water supply. So this
[1:52:49] Speaker 4: problem of amalgam it's it's it's gonna be years. It's
[1:52:53] Speaker 4: it's like unfathomable because mercury's half life is like it
[1:52:56] Speaker 4: doesn't go away. If you've ever seen a mercury spool,
[1:52:59] Speaker 4: which I have seen because I worked in offices that
[1:53:01] Speaker 4: were still hand mixing mercury, and the mercutill fall out
[1:53:05] Speaker 4: of the cabinet and you touch it and it goes
[1:53:06] Speaker 4: into a billion pieces, like you can't contain it. So
[1:53:10] Speaker 4: we're just putting this into the water supply on a daily,
[1:53:13] Speaker 4: daily basis. So it's it's terriory. They say a pregnant
[1:53:17] Speaker 4: woman shouldn't even sit in the waiting room at a
[1:53:19] Speaker 4: dental office if there's a mercury feeling being taken out
[1:53:22] Speaker 4: now just and the dental profession is mostly women. And
[1:53:27] Speaker 4: they add that this autism is much higher in boys
[1:53:31] Speaker 4: because boys are less likely to excrete mercury, they hold
[1:53:35] Speaker 4: onto it more. So there's a lot of correlation with
[1:53:37] Speaker 4: mercury and autism as well.
[1:53:39] Speaker 1: Very interesting, and just like with many of these fundamentally
[1:53:46] Speaker 1: toxic industries that many people rely on, the best solution
[1:53:52] Speaker 1: is to not participate in that and if possible, either
[1:53:57] Speaker 1: start your own companies or your own practice, or fine
[1:54:01] Speaker 1: people who do have the independent capability to do so
[1:54:07] Speaker 1: and are offering these things. But is there any indication
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: that there would be changes in some of our mainstream
[1:54:14] Speaker 1: dental industry just based on some things that are happening
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: now like the fluoride trial, or should we just stick
[1:54:21] Speaker 1: with what I just said and check out of all
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: of that and focus on rebuilding it.
[1:54:29] Speaker 4: Well, it's like you know, any industry, there's so much
[1:54:33] Speaker 4: private interest that making. I mean, just think about the
[1:54:36] Speaker 4: impact just taking root canals alone. There's twenty five million
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: root canals done in the United States every year, and
[1:54:42] Speaker 4: how many dental schools teach root canals and that and
[1:54:44] Speaker 4: getting becoming an end ad honest is two extra years
[1:54:48] Speaker 4: of school on an already eight year you know, four
[1:54:50] Speaker 4: years underground, four years dental, and then another two years
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: to learn how to do root canals, which is another
[1:54:55] Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of that end ad
[1:54:57] Speaker 4: hoist invested. So these dent has come up out of
[1:55:00] Speaker 4: school with debt three to five hundred thousand dollars in debt,
[1:55:03] Speaker 4: which is another reason why the DSOs are so successful,
[1:55:06] Speaker 4: because these young dental graduates, they can't come out of
[1:55:11] Speaker 4: school and do the old model of Oh, I'll go
[1:55:14] Speaker 4: and I'll find a dentist that i'll in my hometown
[1:55:17] Speaker 4: or where i'd like to live, and I'll work under
[1:55:18] Speaker 4: him for a few years and I'll buy his practice
[1:55:21] Speaker 4: and then I'll have my own practice. They're so they're
[1:55:24] Speaker 4: so in debt that they can barely buy a car
[1:55:27] Speaker 4: and then a house, and then to buy a dental practice.
[1:55:29] Speaker 4: They just can't even fathom those those numbers. So they
[1:55:32] Speaker 4: just go and they do their time, and they go
[1:55:34] Speaker 4: and they practice on patients at the DSOs, or they'll
[1:55:37] Speaker 4: go into public health and practice on patients there because
[1:55:40] Speaker 4: they'll get paid. You know, student loan forgivement. But it's
[1:55:44] Speaker 4: just the ADA makes so much money. They're paid a
[1:55:48] Speaker 4: play organization and that's you know, and we bouther them
[1:55:51] Speaker 4: in the dental profession like there are gods. But they're
[1:55:54] Speaker 4: just they're a lobby a party. They're not like a
[1:55:56] Speaker 4: government party. They're just lobbyists. And they, you know, they're
[1:56:01] Speaker 4: never going to give up the floria. They get so
[1:56:03] Speaker 4: much money from you know, Cargill and all these other
[1:56:06] Speaker 4: they're they're huge floride suppliers, you know, so they're doubling
[1:56:11] Speaker 4: down on the fluoride thing. You know, for sure, they're not.
[1:56:13] Speaker 4: There was the greatest health achievement of the last eighty
[1:56:16] Speaker 4: years of lahlah Lah. It's all they have to cling to.
[1:56:19] Speaker 4: You know. Nobody in the world has a fluoride deficiency.
[1:56:22] Speaker 4: That's not a thing, you know what I mean. It's
[1:56:24] Speaker 4: like the fact that we are doing this, you know,
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: and it's it's actually a waste product of phosphor mining.
[1:56:30] Speaker 4: It is an aluminum manufacturing and then we're putting it
[1:56:33] Speaker 4: in our water supply. It's totally crazy because the florid
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: that's in the water is a different florida that's in
[1:56:37] Speaker 4: your toothpaste. You know, it's it's a medical grade fluoride.
[1:56:40] Speaker 4: This is a toxic waste product. But they they they
[1:56:44] Speaker 4: all these tooth ad a seal. They pay for that
[1:56:47] Speaker 4: like big money. So anything that has the ADA seal
[1:56:50] Speaker 4: on has been paid and has been approved by the ADA,
[1:56:53] Speaker 4: which means it can't be good for you, you know, because
[1:56:56] Speaker 4: that's just how it works, you know. So how it's
[1:56:59] Speaker 4: gonna take the patient base, I think, you know, it's
[1:57:02] Speaker 4: going to take the patients to demand it because the
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: organizations themselves aren't going to do it, you know, the
[1:57:09] Speaker 4: iav D and the organization that I belong to. We
[1:57:12] Speaker 4: have our a group of dentists that, you know, they'd
[1:57:14] Speaker 4: be damned if they put a forward, you know, somebody's
[1:57:16] Speaker 4: mouth or a mercury filling or a root canal, and
[1:57:19] Speaker 4: they're looked at like they're quacks or you know, they're
[1:57:21] Speaker 4: you know, vernola funchers, and you know, but they're actually
[1:57:25] Speaker 4: using the most high tech equipment that's out there. You know,
[1:57:28] Speaker 4: biological dentists will use ozone and laser therapy and all
[1:57:31] Speaker 4: these other things that are just above and beyond what
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: a conventional dentist would ever do. The one thing that
[1:57:38] Speaker 4: might be become mainstream is ozone in dentistry. The ADA
[1:57:42] Speaker 4: is doing some research into that. It's been used in
[1:57:45] Speaker 4: the medical profession for over one hundred years, but ozone
[1:57:48] Speaker 4: is one of those game changers that should be, you know,
[1:57:51] Speaker 4: implemented on a regular basis in dentistry. But it's never
[1:57:56] Speaker 4: going to be like, oh, this is how you have
[1:57:57] Speaker 4: to do a filling is with ozone, or this is
[1:57:59] Speaker 4: how you do an extraction so that you don't cause
[1:58:02] Speaker 4: a cavitation. It's just kind of like, that's the thing.
[1:58:05] Speaker 4: The dentistry is like, the dentist gets to decide how
[1:58:08] Speaker 4: good of a dentist he wants to be. Does he
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: want to take his continuing education courses and that say
[1:58:13] Speaker 4: how to mind control your patient to say yes to treatment?
[1:58:16] Speaker 4: Or is his continuing education courses on how to do
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: minimally invasive dentistry for long term outcomes? You know what
[1:58:23] Speaker 4: kind of courses is your dentist taking? Ask them, you
[1:58:25] Speaker 4: know how many conferences have you been to last year?
[1:58:28] Speaker 4: You know what continued education classes did you take last year?
[1:58:31] Speaker 4: And most of them will be like, oh, I took
[1:58:33] Speaker 4: a They won'n't even tell you because they'll be so
[1:58:34] Speaker 4: embarrassed I took on my lunch break. You know, how
[1:58:37] Speaker 4: to increase my hygiene revenue, or how to get more
[1:58:39] Speaker 4: patients to do for help the growth you know that
[1:58:42] Speaker 4: on how much money you can to make on floor ride,
[1:58:44] Speaker 4: or you know how to get patients to say yes
[1:58:46] Speaker 4: to treatment. You know, those are the classes that people
[1:58:48] Speaker 4: are out there taking instead of looking into biological dentistry
[1:58:51] Speaker 4: and learning you know, how to increase your revenue and
[1:58:55] Speaker 4: make money, but also do the right thing for the patient,
[1:58:57] Speaker 4: you know, and have better long term outcomes and a
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: less stressful career because you don't have those patients coming
[1:59:02] Speaker 4: back to you with failed root canals and toothings after
[1:59:05] Speaker 4: fillings and cavitations that you know, have pain that never
[1:59:09] Speaker 4: go away, and try gentile moralgia and all these all
[1:59:11] Speaker 4: these issues can be can be mitigated with biological dentistry,
[1:59:15] Speaker 4: but it's always the dentist's choice at the clinical level,
[1:59:18] Speaker 4: how good they want to be. Nobody's overseeing a dentist,
[1:59:21] Speaker 4: you know what I mean, if the assistant's not going
[1:59:24] Speaker 4: to speak up. That's one of the things with my
[1:59:25] Speaker 4: consulting company that I feel very strongly about, and it's
[1:59:28] Speaker 4: actually kind of how I became to be, you know,
[1:59:31] Speaker 4: in the position that I've been in my life is
[1:59:33] Speaker 4: that I never let the dentist get away with anything.
[1:59:36] Speaker 4: If I saw, you know, something shady going on, or
[1:59:39] Speaker 4: not even shady, but like you missed it. You know,
[1:59:41] Speaker 4: there's a giant abscess there, let's not put a feeling
[1:59:44] Speaker 4: on that. Or no, that's not the right tooth, it's
[1:59:46] Speaker 4: the one next door. Or you know what I mean,
[1:59:49] Speaker 4: there's cavities in this patient's mouth that you're you're not
[1:59:51] Speaker 4: treatment planning, or you know that tooth does not need
[1:59:54] Speaker 4: a root canal, you know, just so you can put
[1:59:56] Speaker 4: a crown on it, Don't you dare do that? I
[1:59:57] Speaker 4: will watch you out, you know, like you know, and
[2:00:00] Speaker 4: then and I always encourage team members to do that,
[2:00:04] Speaker 4: because what are you just going to stand there and
[2:00:07] Speaker 4: watch it happen? Like if you're I always say to
[2:00:09] Speaker 4: you know, people when I'm training with them, if you
[2:00:11] Speaker 4: were in surgery, right if you were on the table
[2:00:14] Speaker 4: and you were out cold, and you were in the
[2:00:16] Speaker 4: room by yourself, and there was a surgeon and a
[2:00:17] Speaker 4: nurse there and the surgeon is about to cut off
[2:00:19] Speaker 4: the wrong leg, would you want the nurse to say
[2:00:21] Speaker 4: something or not say something. You know, if he doesn't
[2:00:24] Speaker 4: tie a suture correctly, do you want her to pretend
[2:00:27] Speaker 4: like that didn't happen, or do you want her to
[2:00:28] Speaker 4: open her mouth? So that's one thing. And the employees
[2:00:33] Speaker 4: are terrifying to speak up again against the dentists because
[2:00:35] Speaker 4: they you know, they went to dentald school. They know
[2:00:37] Speaker 4: everything and they would never do the wrong thing. And
[2:00:39] Speaker 4: but yet you talk to any data professional and they
[2:00:42] Speaker 4: will slander their dentists to the end of the year
[2:00:45] Speaker 4: about oh he does this and it's terrible and they
[2:00:47] Speaker 4: do that, and I can't believe how much they miss
[2:00:50] Speaker 4: on the X rays and blah blah blah. So it's
[2:00:52] Speaker 4: it's it's it all depends on the dentists and how
[2:00:55] Speaker 4: much they really care about their dentistry. It's not what
[2:00:57] Speaker 4: it'll do.
[2:00:58] Speaker 1: You mentioned ozone. Talk a little bit about this and
[2:01:02] Speaker 1: how it can be applied in dentistry.
[2:01:06] Speaker 4: So ozone is really cool. It's just three so it
[2:01:10] Speaker 4: super oxygenates the blood, It help promotes wound healing. It
[2:01:13] Speaker 4: remineralizes tooths. So if you when you use ozone on
[2:01:18] Speaker 4: a cavity, you know you take you remove some of
[2:01:20] Speaker 4: the decay. You know, you use the ozone, it'll actually
[2:01:23] Speaker 4: harden that tooth structure so that you have less chance
[2:01:27] Speaker 4: of a root canal or post operative sensitivity. And it
[2:01:30] Speaker 4: also goes into those microcnals that we were talking about
[2:01:33] Speaker 4: earlier related to root canals. Those microcnals, the gas will
[2:01:36] Speaker 4: get into those a little bit and kill all the
[2:01:39] Speaker 4: bacteria that we're lingering into those tubules, so you're less
[2:01:42] Speaker 4: likely to have a toothache and recurrent decay that you know,
[2:01:45] Speaker 4: the filling will last a couple of years and then
[2:01:46] Speaker 4: you have to have it replaced. We also use it
[2:01:50] Speaker 4: for wound healing and it's super into microbial so when
[2:01:54] Speaker 4: we do like peradonal therapy for somebody that does have
[2:01:56] Speaker 4: gum disease, using ozone will elimit those bacterias where if
[2:02:01] Speaker 4: you just do traditional conventional what you call a deep
[2:02:04] Speaker 4: cleaning with scaling and root plane and you get about
[2:02:06] Speaker 4: twenty percent of that bacteria out of that pocket. So
[2:02:10] Speaker 4: it's almost like a failed procedure because within minutes that
[2:02:14] Speaker 4: pocket has completely recolonized to one hundred percent of toxic bacteria.
[2:02:18] Speaker 4: With the ozone, that's just not the case. And then
[2:02:21] Speaker 4: the body has the time to work on resetting that
[2:02:24] Speaker 4: ooral microbiome and truly healing a patient. They do it
[2:02:28] Speaker 4: in the medical perfection a lot. They do like the
[2:02:30] Speaker 4: ten pass system. Well, they'll they'll basically sterilize your blood.
[2:02:34] Speaker 4: They'll take your blood out ozona to put it back
[2:02:36] Speaker 4: in ten times and you have fresh, clean blood and
[2:02:39] Speaker 4: ner immune system loves that. But it's not DA approved.
[2:02:43] Speaker 4: So you know, it's not FDA approved because it was
[2:02:46] Speaker 4: out before it was invented, before the FDA was invented.
[2:02:50] Speaker 3: You know.
[2:02:50] Speaker 4: That's the like mercury too. Like mercury has never been
[2:02:53] Speaker 4: approved to be used or because it was green fathered
[2:02:56] Speaker 4: in under the Grass law, generally that safe. You know,
[2:03:01] Speaker 4: recognize this safe. It's never actually been like a proven
[2:03:04] Speaker 4: to be safe. So you know, why does the ozone
[2:03:07] Speaker 4: have to do that if we've been using it for
[2:03:09] Speaker 4: one hundred years and there's not people aren't allergic to oxygen,
[2:03:12] Speaker 4: there's no you know what I mean, it's oxygen. So
[2:03:16] Speaker 4: that's it's a really really really I like using ozone.
[2:03:20] Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's one of the greatest
[2:03:22] Speaker 4: tools that dentists can use, especially when you're removing a tooth.
[2:03:26] Speaker 4: You know, that's a whole other issue too, is removing
[2:03:28] Speaker 4: teeth and the consequence is there. But when you use ozone,
[2:03:31] Speaker 4: you're able to kill a lot of that bacteria that
[2:03:33] Speaker 4: are in that pocket before that's you know, it heals
[2:03:36] Speaker 4: over and you get a non healing wound, and it
[2:03:39] Speaker 4: oxygenates the blood, it promotes womb healing, all that, all
[2:03:41] Speaker 4: that wonderful stuff. So hopefully that'll be something more mainstream.
[2:03:45] Speaker 4: But you know, dentists don't like their their their programs
[2:03:48] Speaker 4: to be interrupted, and you know that's a program interruptor
[2:03:52] Speaker 4: because they have to implement technology. The you know, the
[2:03:54] Speaker 4: ozone generator costs money. You have to teach your team
[2:03:58] Speaker 4: how to use it and how to talk about it.
[2:04:00] Speaker 4: And Dennis, sometimes they just like to go about their
[2:04:03] Speaker 4: business and not have anything interrupted. So that's the other problem.
[2:04:07] Speaker 1: Right now, for the last few minutes we have, let's
[2:04:10] Speaker 1: talk about personal dental health solutions. As with any other
[2:04:15] Speaker 1: personal health practice, preventative care is probably the easiest and
[2:04:21] Speaker 1: most important type of self care that we can do.
[2:04:25] Speaker 2: But talk a little bit.
[2:04:26] Speaker 1: About what we can do ourselves to keep our mouths
[2:04:30] Speaker 1: healthy and some of the things that we can use
[2:04:34] Speaker 1: as alternatives to the toxic things like toothpaste and mouth
[2:04:38] Speaker 1: wars that we use.
[2:04:41] Speaker 4: Well with anything. You know, your diet is always the
[2:04:45] Speaker 4: most important thing. You know, processed foods are going to
[2:04:47] Speaker 4: be terrible for you. You know, you want to have
[2:04:50] Speaker 4: a nice, well rounded diet. A lot of fat soluble
[2:04:53] Speaker 4: vitamins a d K are very important for dental health
[2:04:57] Speaker 4: with the teeth and the gums, So you want to
[2:04:59] Speaker 4: make sure you're you're good with all that. If you
[2:05:02] Speaker 4: are a person that builds up with you know, tartar
[2:05:05] Speaker 4: or calculus really easily, that could be indicative of you know,
[2:05:10] Speaker 4: a calcium imbalance within your body, in your phosphorus and
[2:05:13] Speaker 4: calcium magnesium levels can be off. That can happen with
[2:05:16] Speaker 4: low stomach acid or heavy metal problems. So if you do,
[2:05:20] Speaker 4: you know, if you do good with your home care,
[2:05:22] Speaker 4: but you still build up tartar very easily, you definitely
[2:05:24] Speaker 4: want to make sure you get yourself out here tissue
[2:05:27] Speaker 4: mineral analysis to make sure that your internal levels are
[2:05:30] Speaker 4: imbalance because you don't want you know, calcium building up
[2:05:33] Speaker 4: in your arteries. That's very dangerous. So diet is one thing,
[2:05:37] Speaker 4: especially for pregnant women or women who want to become pregnant,
[2:05:40] Speaker 4: you know, just really really giving your body all those things,
[2:05:44] Speaker 4: you know, taking some fermented cod liver oil before you
[2:05:46] Speaker 4: become pregnant. Definitely never taking full of acid because that
[2:05:51] Speaker 4: causes some airway issues and that's one of those things
[2:05:55] Speaker 4: they put in all the the pre naval vitamins and
[2:05:58] Speaker 4: that's been causing a big problem. But women really need
[2:06:01] Speaker 4: to up their bodies with those A K D erchndotic acid.
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: All that is really really important for a pregnant them
[2:06:09] Speaker 4: so that the child is born ahead of the curve.
[2:06:11] Speaker 4: You know, their mouth will be their head will be
[2:06:13] Speaker 4: bigger and stronger, and their teeth will be stronger. That's
[2:06:16] Speaker 4: the biggest way to start off healthy. And then just
[2:06:19] Speaker 4: you know, not bottle feeding children, you know, make sure
[2:06:21] Speaker 4: if you don't have to, because those formulas aren't great
[2:06:24] Speaker 4: for teeth and the mouth and the way the child develops.
[2:06:28] Speaker 4: But just as an adult, you know, obviously soda is
[2:06:32] Speaker 4: not the greatest thing. Gatorades, you know, coffee with extra
[2:06:37] Speaker 4: extra sugar, you know, all these things, the basic main stuff.
[2:06:41] Speaker 4: But there are a lot of really great products coming
[2:06:44] Speaker 4: out that do help with dental decay and It's really
[2:06:49] Speaker 4: exciting to see a lot of people starting to look
[2:06:51] Speaker 4: into alternatives to fluoride because there are there are a
[2:06:54] Speaker 4: lot of them out there. Now. You know, there's hydroxy appetite,
[2:06:58] Speaker 4: which is what is a mineral that actually in your saliva,
[2:07:01] Speaker 4: So you know, there are toothpastes that are making hydroxy appetite.
[2:07:04] Speaker 4: I would stay away from the nano versions of that.
[2:07:08] Speaker 4: Nano particles are generally something you want to stay away from.
[2:07:12] Speaker 4: And then there's you know, calcium phosphate. There's there's some
[2:07:17] Speaker 4: biogreen Mark bio has a nice strips that you can
[2:07:21] Speaker 4: put out in your teeth that can actually reverse small
[2:07:24] Speaker 4: cavities and dentinal sensitivity at the gum line. You know,
[2:07:28] Speaker 4: you do want to try to clean your teeth, you know,
[2:07:31] Speaker 4: but don't over clean them again. You know, you don't
[2:07:33] Speaker 4: want to be brushing your teeth five times a day
[2:07:35] Speaker 4: because that biofill on your teeth does protect it from
[2:07:37] Speaker 4: acid attacks when you eat and drink. So you know,
[2:07:40] Speaker 4: your standard morning and evening brushing once a day, flossing
[2:07:44] Speaker 4: with you know a flaws that doesn't have VPA in
[2:07:47] Speaker 4: it and fluoride in it. Water picking is a good one.
[2:07:50] Speaker 4: But it doesn't really replace flossing. But as long as
[2:07:55] Speaker 4: you you know, are eating a well rounded diet and
[2:07:58] Speaker 4: staying very hydrated, do you Dreation is another problem with
[2:08:01] Speaker 4: tooth decay. Definitely, you know, only use the mouthwash if
[2:08:06] Speaker 4: you know you need it. You know, see if you
[2:08:08] Speaker 4: have a problem with your gums, the first thing you
[2:08:10] Speaker 4: want to do is see biological lenis who's going to
[2:08:12] Speaker 4: look at it under a microscope, look at your plaque
[2:08:14] Speaker 4: and see what you're working with, because you don't want
[2:08:17] Speaker 4: to just be going in there and killing all your
[2:08:18] Speaker 4: good bacteria. Again. So warm salt water is a great
[2:08:22] Speaker 4: easy one to use, you know, a Celtic salt or
[2:08:25] Speaker 4: something like that, because it actually does have minerals in
[2:08:27] Speaker 4: it that are really good for the for the body,
[2:08:32] Speaker 4: the basic stuff. You know. Just there's the if you
[2:08:34] Speaker 4: if your slight is healthy, it'll re minilize your teeth.
[2:08:37] Speaker 4: So if you're giving your body what it needs, your
[2:08:39] Speaker 4: body will take care of it.
[2:08:41] Speaker 1: Excellent. So, Maatha, this was great information. Thank you so much.
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: Before I let you go, let everyone know how they
[2:08:48] Speaker 1: can find out more about you and the work you
[2:08:52] Speaker 1: do as well as biological dentistry.
[2:08:56] Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can follow. My consulting company is called
[2:08:59] Speaker 4: Black Screen Valley Dental Mentoring and Consulting, and you know
[2:09:04] Speaker 4: what we try to do with that is get we
[2:09:07] Speaker 4: try to infiltrate the regular dentists, you know, we try
[2:09:09] Speaker 4: to get them to open their eyes. And we've been
[2:09:12] Speaker 4: very successful with that. So we've had a lot of
[2:09:15] Speaker 4: dentists that we work with. We'll start implementing these things
[2:09:17] Speaker 4: slowly and steadily, and they're all now, you know, speaking
[2:09:21] Speaker 4: out about the fluoride, which is great, you know. So
[2:09:23] Speaker 4: I think, you know, if you have a dentist that
[2:09:27] Speaker 4: you don't want to switch because you like the hygienists
[2:09:29] Speaker 4: or you like them, then bring it up to them
[2:09:31] Speaker 4: at your appointment and say, hey, I heard about biological dentistry.
[2:09:34] Speaker 4: You know, maybe this is something you guys could look into,
[2:09:37] Speaker 4: because they'll do it if they think that it's something
[2:09:39] Speaker 4: that will make that money and the public is like pushing,
[2:09:42] Speaker 4: they'll do it. But if it's something that's going to
[2:09:44] Speaker 4: interrupt their system and people don't want to do it,
[2:09:47] Speaker 4: then they're not going to bring it up. And the
[2:09:49] Speaker 4: biological dentistry group that I belong to is the IABEDM.
[2:09:52] Speaker 4: So you can follow us on Instagram and Facebook and
[2:09:55] Speaker 4: all those usual suspects. We have a website too that
[2:09:59] Speaker 4: has a lot of information on it if you want
[2:10:01] Speaker 4: to go on there and read about some of the
[2:10:03] Speaker 4: stuff yourself. We do have a We're doing a toxicology
[2:10:07] Speaker 4: summit next Friday, all about dental anesthetics actually, which will
[2:10:11] Speaker 4: be interesting. I don't even know the results of this yet,
[2:10:13] Speaker 4: but the public has been there's an outcry about grapheneoxide
[2:10:18] Speaker 4: and nanobots in dental anesthetics. So we actually conducted that. Hey,
[2:10:22] Speaker 4: we collected it from loss the country, different makers of
[2:10:27] Speaker 4: dental anesthetic, and we have some stuff to go over
[2:10:29] Speaker 4: with that, so that's open to the public. You can
[2:10:32] Speaker 4: find that.
[2:10:32] Speaker 1: Before you finish. I apologize. You mentioned that there is
[2:10:37] Speaker 1: a concern about nanobots in the dental anesthetic.
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: I've never heard this yet.
[2:10:44] Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff going around
[2:10:46] Speaker 4: about that, especially since COVID. You know, there have been
[2:10:50] Speaker 4: people having reactions, really bad cheer side reactions to dental anesthetics.
[2:10:55] Speaker 4: And graphioxide is graphinoxide is definitely used in dental anesthetics,
[2:11:01] Speaker 4: and we know that, you know, with that combined with
[2:11:04] Speaker 4: the graphine accent in the vaccines can be detrimental, so
[2:11:08] Speaker 4: we didn't know about the nanobots. You know, people have
[2:11:11] Speaker 4: been asking us about it, so that's why we took
[2:11:14] Speaker 4: the lead and did some testing on it. The University
[2:11:18] Speaker 4: of Texas actually did the study for us a toxicologist,
[2:11:22] Speaker 4: so it's very interesting when she comes town.
[2:11:24] Speaker 1: Definitely, I would definitely like to hear more about that
[2:11:27] Speaker 1: when it comes out. And I apologize for interrupting you,
[2:11:30] Speaker 1: please continue.
[2:11:32] Speaker 4: Like I said, that's we opened that one up to
[2:11:35] Speaker 4: the public because it was the public asking, so you
[2:11:38] Speaker 4: can link and sign up to that rate on the
[2:11:39] Speaker 4: iv DM website. So that will be an interesting one
[2:11:43] Speaker 4: to see. But we do have a lot of conferences
[2:11:46] Speaker 4: and stuff, and we're open to people coming in and
[2:11:49] Speaker 4: listening in our conferences and joining our conferences. We have
[2:11:52] Speaker 4: you know, one coming up in March in Austin, Texas,
[2:11:56] Speaker 4: and we're going to you know, have doctor Thomas Levy
[2:11:59] Speaker 4: there who's just like outspoken cardiologists with the endodontics and
[2:12:03] Speaker 4: what he can do with vitamin C and magnesium for
[2:12:06] Speaker 4: cardiac health, and you know, we just have a really
[2:12:09] Speaker 4: really great resource network. So just getting involved with the
[2:12:13] Speaker 4: igadem donating to them. We're on the front lines trying
[2:12:17] Speaker 4: to fight the good fight for everybody, and we're coming
[2:12:20] Speaker 4: up in our fortieth anniversary, so we've kind of been
[2:12:23] Speaker 4: the pioneers that have always been out there talking out
[2:12:26] Speaker 4: not just the mercury of the floor, but the meridians
[2:12:29] Speaker 4: and the cavitations and you know, airway and root canals,
[2:12:32] Speaker 4: and so we're like the we're like as hardcore as
[2:12:35] Speaker 4: you can get, I guess you could say when it
[2:12:37] Speaker 4: comes to being biological excellent.
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