# Gil Rosen | Alien Verses: Decoding Genesis, Biblical Extraterrestrial Progenitors

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 8 Aug 2026, 1 h 22 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hello, friends, I just wanted to get ahead of some
[0:03] Speaker 1: of the comments I foresee from this episode. First, if
[0:07] Speaker 1: you listen to this show, you know that I am
[0:10] Speaker 1: very skeptical about physical being extraterrestrial narratives. I do lean
[0:16] Speaker 1: more towards a spiritual phenomena. That being said, I am
[0:20] Speaker 1: also well aware of the possibility of alien propaganda and
[0:25] Speaker 1: certain narratives being spread to perpetuate agendas. And the fact
[0:31] Speaker 1: that Gil used to be a CEO for a high
[0:33] Speaker 1: level global marketing firm and TEDx speaker now during this
[0:38] Speaker 1: time period is making Biblical Hebrew translations for a book
[0:43] Speaker 1: about extraterrestrials does raise some questions, which she briefly addresses
[0:48] Speaker 1: in the interview. But I am also aware that there
[0:52] Speaker 1: are genuinely curious people seeking answers out there, and as always,
[0:58] Speaker 1: I leave it up to you, the audience, to decide
[1:01] Speaker 1: enjoy this episode. I think it's just going to get
[1:05] Speaker 1: weirder and weirder and weirder, and finally it's going to
[1:08] Speaker 1: be so weird that people are going to have to
[1:11] Speaker 1: talk about how weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden
[1:16] Speaker 1: Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew Today My guest
[1:19] Speaker 1: is Gil Rosen. Check out our merch shop. We've got
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[1:38] Speaker 1: you'd like to be a guest, email me Forbidden Knowledgenews
[1:41] Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Today I want to welcome Gil Rosen.
[1:44] Speaker 1: He is an author, tedex speaker and CEO.
[1:48] Speaker 2: Gil.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Welcome. How you doing.
[1:50] Speaker 3: I'm very well. How are you?
[1:52] Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man, It's good to have you today.
[1:55] Speaker 1: We're going to be discussing your book, Alien Versus Decoding Genesis.
[1:59] Speaker 1: It's a deep exploration of specific passages from the Book
[2:04] Speaker 1: of Genesis which reveal anomalies hidden in the original Hebrew
[2:08] Speaker 1: text that challenge modern biblical translation and understandings, even possibly
[2:14] Speaker 1: revealing the true identity of God, as well as a
[2:17] Speaker 1: link between classified CIA documents and the destruction of Sodom Gomorra.
[2:23] Speaker 1: This is the stuff we're all about here. Can't wait
[2:25] Speaker 1: to learn more about it. Before we do. This is
[2:27] Speaker 1: your first time on, tell us a little bit about
[2:29] Speaker 1: yourself and let the audience know how they can find
[2:32] Speaker 1: out more awesome.
[2:34] Speaker 3: So, first of all, great to be here. I'm a
[2:38] Speaker 3: CMO of a global tech company, and I've been in
[2:40] Speaker 3: tech for about twenty plus years now, ever since the
[2:44] Speaker 3: dot com boom and even before Y two K, so
[2:47] Speaker 3: I've been around that whole area, the boom of the internet,
[2:50] Speaker 3: mobile phone, everything. And now I'm a same of telecommunication
[2:56] Speaker 3: software company. We serve most of the global telecom companies.
[3:00] Speaker 3: So any company, any telecom company or listeners are connected to,
[3:03] Speaker 3: probably uses our software. And that specifically that domain, which
[3:08] Speaker 3: seems so far fetched from you know talking about Bible
[3:10] Speaker 3: and Genesis, is exactly what led me there. Uh the
[3:16] Speaker 3: you know, my profession is about telling stories. Being a
[3:19] Speaker 3: chief marketing officer, it is about telling stories, It's about
[3:23] Speaker 3: creating messages, is about moving minds and perceptions and and
[3:28] Speaker 3: that trait, the craft of marketing and storytelling is something
[3:32] Speaker 3: that I deal with on a you know, regular basis,
[3:34] Speaker 3: and and you know, as I matured in my profession,
[3:39] Speaker 3: it kind of connected me back to childhood. The passion
[3:42] Speaker 3: of mine, which is you know, the whole thing that
[3:44] Speaker 3: you know, that poster behind you. I want to believe,
[3:47] Speaker 3: you know, I've I've been I've been there since you know,
[3:51] Speaker 3: since the early my early childhood days. And you know,
[3:54] Speaker 3: we'll get there. But I think that that the essence
[3:58] Speaker 3: of what the Bible is at the end of today.
[4:00] Speaker 3: It's just an amazing story. And that story, Genesis specifically,
[4:05] Speaker 3: became the cornerstone of Western civilization. It's you know, it's
[4:09] Speaker 3: it's the it's the it's the core book of the
[4:12] Speaker 3: three Monopheistic religions. It founded monothheism, the belief in one God,
[4:19] Speaker 3: and it's connected to our you know, mainly Western values.
[4:22] Speaker 3: And and I saw going back to the roots in
[4:25] Speaker 3: a book which I wrote, uh, which I read and
[4:29] Speaker 3: experienced as a child, learning it in its original language.
[4:33] Speaker 3: I wanted to go back and kind of investigate the
[4:36] Speaker 3: that that book and this is what came out of it.
[4:40] Speaker 1: Was there any specific catalysts, anything that brought you back
[4:45] Speaker 1: to the interest in this. It's a very interesting time
[4:49] Speaker 1: to put out a book like this with the mainstream
[4:53] Speaker 1: disclosure that's unfolding as we speak.
[4:57] Speaker 3: Absolutely so, I'm glad you mentioned the word disclosure because
[4:59] Speaker 3: of back to it. But before that, I really started
[5:03] Speaker 3: as a child, around the age of eleven or twelve,
[5:07] Speaker 3: I came across and read Eric von Danikin's book Chariots
[5:11] Speaker 3: of the Gods, and that that book kind of just
[5:15] Speaker 3: sparked my imagination. He looked at cultures across the globe
[5:19] Speaker 3: and the meaning the potential meaning of you know, their
[5:22] Speaker 3: statues and the monuments around the world, from the pyramids
[5:25] Speaker 3: to the you know, to the pyramids in Chichinisa to
[5:28] Speaker 3: the pyramids in Egypt, and really trying to maybe provide
[5:33] Speaker 3: an alternative narrative to our history as as the human race.
[5:39] Speaker 3: And that just sparked my imagination and I've been kind
[5:41] Speaker 3: of following this, i would say genre ever since. Then.
[5:45] Speaker 3: In the nineties, I read Graham Hancock Fingerprints of the Gods,
[5:50] Speaker 3: which further took me down that rabbit hole. And I've
[5:53] Speaker 3: always had the perspective as an Israeli, as a Hebrew speaker,
[5:58] Speaker 3: you know, reading the scriptures and the original language and
[6:01] Speaker 3: when you hear others speak, and mainly as it got
[6:05] Speaker 3: into mainstream media with a history channel and you know,
[6:08] Speaker 3: the ancient astronauts and it's I think like twentieth twentieth
[6:14] Speaker 3: A season and other you know, unexplained shows that are
[6:20] Speaker 3: just featured everywhere. I realized that many times they're talking
[6:23] Speaker 3: about the Bible and Genesis. But first of all, they're
[6:27] Speaker 3: what I call jumping from one fun fact to the other.
[6:30] Speaker 3: There's no structure to it. I mentioned a cool fact
[6:33] Speaker 3: there and here, but it's never structured. It very often
[6:37] Speaker 3: misses the point because it uses the translation as its basis.
[6:42] Speaker 3: And you know, and I looked around and I said, listen,
[6:44] Speaker 3: first of all, this is your professional this is what
[6:47] Speaker 3: I do for a living. I love this topic. I've
[6:49] Speaker 3: been following it since my childhood. I can read the source.
[6:53] Speaker 3: I want to go back, and I want also for myself.
[6:56] Speaker 3: You know, I found myself in all these different you know,
[6:57] Speaker 3: dinner table discussions and and also mentioning things that I
[7:01] Speaker 3: read in the Bible. But it was never structured. I
[7:03] Speaker 3: didn't have like a thesis. So a few years ago
[7:07] Speaker 3: I just decided to sit down with Genesis and that
[7:12] Speaker 3: started my journey. And you know, the first verse of
[7:15] Speaker 3: the Bible, the first verse of the Bible beveshit Barrah Elohim.
[7:20] Speaker 3: In the beginning, God created. This is where the investigation
[7:25] Speaker 3: starts because in English it says in the beginning, God created.
[7:29] Speaker 3: In Hebrew it says, beveit Barrah Elohim. Elohim is plural.
[7:34] Speaker 3: It's a plural form of a singular word, which is l.
[7:39] Speaker 3: L is a single god. Elohim are multiple gods. So
[7:44] Speaker 3: why this anomaly and this I kind of go through
[7:47] Speaker 3: the entire book of Genesis and show the different perspective,
[7:52] Speaker 3: But that kind of drew me at the beginning.
[7:55] Speaker 1: I thought maybe we could go through some of those
[7:58] Speaker 1: verses included in your book and get a little bit
[8:01] Speaker 1: more information as it relates to your understanding of these
[8:07] Speaker 1: specific verses. Let's start with that first one. Maybe we
[8:11] Speaker 1: could expand a bit on in the beginning, God created
[8:15] Speaker 1: the heavens and the earth. What else have you extracted
[8:18] Speaker 1: from this besides the plural gods?
[8:21] Speaker 3: So before I get there, what I you know? I
[8:25] Speaker 3: want to just jump quickly back to the disclosure sure
[8:29] Speaker 3: and kind of give just kind of a trailer to
[8:33] Speaker 3: something we'll maybe touch in the end. My belief is
[8:37] Speaker 3: that this book Book of Genesis and my book, the
[8:41] Speaker 3: ability to see things differently are part of what is
[8:45] Speaker 3: not being disclosed when we wait for the government to
[8:49] Speaker 3: tell us what disclosure is about. My belief is that
[8:52] Speaker 3: part of the fear and part of the reason the
[8:55] Speaker 3: disclosure is not happening is because part of it, not
[8:58] Speaker 3: all of it, sist of the understanding that the various
[9:03] Speaker 3: government and organizations arrived at which our view of history
[9:09] Speaker 3: and specifically our theology or our religions are actually misinterpreted
[9:14] Speaker 3: meetings with extra terrestrial or out of this earth races
[9:21] Speaker 3: which basically gave birth to these stories which became ultimately
[9:25] Speaker 3: our religious religion, you know, religious faith and a religious
[9:30] Speaker 3: faith down the road cleansed the original story which I'm
[9:35] Speaker 3: going to start to talk to you about and show
[9:36] Speaker 3: you step by step while it is what it is,
[9:40] Speaker 3: the narrative. So you know my book what I try
[9:43] Speaker 3: to do, and I want people to really understand. I'm
[9:45] Speaker 3: not anti faith, I'm not anti religion, and I think
[9:48] Speaker 3: faith is important. I think religion is important. I think
[9:50] Speaker 3: in the Book of Genesis you can find faith in
[9:53] Speaker 3: many places. I think in the first the first chapter
[9:58] Speaker 3: of Genesis, Genesis one is actually a different God than
[10:01] Speaker 3: the rest of Genesis. Genesis one is the creation of
[10:03] Speaker 3: the universe, and this is where it starts with Vershit
[10:09] Speaker 3: by the gods. And then later down in the sixth Day,
[10:14] Speaker 3: when they arrive at the task of creating man, what
[10:19] Speaker 3: they say is God doesn't say I will create man.
[10:23] Speaker 3: He would say, let's make man in our image after
[10:29] Speaker 3: our likeness. And there are two words there used in plurality,
[10:35] Speaker 3: our image, this is how we look. This is the
[10:39] Speaker 3: form which I will get to later because it gets
[10:42] Speaker 3: wild in Genesis six. And our likeness, which is how
[10:47] Speaker 3: we behave. So it wasn't like, let's make them look
[10:50] Speaker 3: like us and the rest will be completely different. It's
[10:53] Speaker 3: let's make them like looking like us and behaving like us.
[10:59] Speaker 3: So the original uh in Genesis one, the original dialogue
[11:06] Speaker 3: is not of a god acting on his own on
[11:10] Speaker 3: his own. It's a conversation between the gods conversing and
[11:15] Speaker 3: deciding to create man in their own image and in
[11:19] Speaker 3: the language. By the way, it's not uh, it's not
[11:23] Speaker 3: even hidden. But you know, one of the things I say,
[11:26] Speaker 3: you know, this truth has been hiding in plain sight.
[11:29] Speaker 3: It's it's it's amazing that we talk about disclosure, but
[11:32] Speaker 3: actually disclosure already happened. It's it's written in the book.
[11:35] Speaker 3: But we were we were engineered to to ignore it.
[11:42] Speaker 3: We were engineered to ignore it. And and and and
[11:45] Speaker 3: this this, this, this verse is a very telling sign
[11:49] Speaker 3: when you have in the first verse plural eloheim instead
[11:53] Speaker 3: of and. Then the translation says one God. But actually,
[11:57] Speaker 3: even in the English translation they use later in Genesis one,
[12:01] Speaker 3: let's create man in our image. It's plural, but nobody
[12:05] Speaker 3: questions it. You know, the theologians would say, this is
[12:08] Speaker 3: a use of what I describe in my book as
[12:11] Speaker 3: the majestic plural reverence. When you want to describe something
[12:16] Speaker 3: that is bigger, like a king, you would a king
[12:20] Speaker 3: would speak in plural, but when speaking to his peers,
[12:24] Speaker 3: he does not say we when he means I. So
[12:28] Speaker 3: even the majestic plural argument kind of falls flat. But
[12:31] Speaker 3: it's kind of ignored, and we just continue down the tails.
[12:35] Speaker 3: So Genesis one is kind of the creation of the universe.
[12:38] Speaker 3: It's the creation of the universe in the in the
[12:40] Speaker 3: in the in the kind of grand in the grand
[12:43] Speaker 3: scale of things. It's not it doesn't have any specifics.
[12:47] Speaker 3: That just talks about these six stages. And on the
[12:49] Speaker 3: seventh day, and you know, we're having this discussion on
[12:53] Speaker 3: the weekend, on the Saturday, and for us having a
[12:57] Speaker 3: week and a weekend. It's kind of like, this is
[12:59] Speaker 3: how things are. But you have to think, you have
[13:01] Speaker 3: to imagine that in the ancient world, this cycle of
[13:05] Speaker 3: working for six days and resting on the seventh was
[13:08] Speaker 3: not a given. So this is why I mentioned in
[13:11] Speaker 3: the beginning that some of the morals from Genesis are
[13:13] Speaker 3: still with us today. Even the way that we structure
[13:16] Speaker 3: our week started there. And everybody must rest, the man,
[13:19] Speaker 3: the woman, the animal, even the slaves. So you know,
[13:23] Speaker 3: it's a very it's a book with high morals, yet
[13:28] Speaker 3: it's not a book about a discussion about God as
[13:31] Speaker 3: the regular belief goes. So so Genesis one is really
[13:35] Speaker 3: interesting in that it's kind of a macro story. Then
[13:37] Speaker 3: Genesis two starts in a kind of a summary of
[13:41] Speaker 3: Genesis one, but then it does something very interesting. And
[13:45] Speaker 3: here too, by the way, when I started writing the book,
[13:48] Speaker 3: I didn't imagine that I would stumble across these kind
[13:52] Speaker 3: of very I would say profound mistranslations on Genesis too,
[13:59] Speaker 3: it says these are the days when the Lord God
[14:02] Speaker 3: created the heavens and the earth. It's kind of a
[14:04] Speaker 3: summary of what happened in the previous chapter. Mm hm,
[14:08] Speaker 3: So you read it, these are the days when the
[14:10] Speaker 3: Lord God. And for you, the Lord God is just
[14:13] Speaker 3: kind of a reverent kind of attribute before using the
[14:17] Speaker 3: word God, it's the Lord, meaning this is the supreme God.
[14:20] Speaker 3: But this is not what the source code says in Hebrew.
[14:24] Speaker 3: It says Elohim Jehovah, meaning this is a specific God
[14:30] Speaker 3: whose name is Yehovah. So thereafter Jehovah is a specific
[14:38] Speaker 3: God which is named specifically, or his name is being
[14:43] Speaker 3: is being used when it's related to him in God's
[14:47] Speaker 3: is used in other instances when Yoava is not involved.
[14:51] Speaker 3: And there are other places in Genesis where there are
[14:53] Speaker 3: interactions with Elohim, but not Yehovah, and and and and
[14:57] Speaker 3: these bread crumbs are all over and and I'll get
[15:00] Speaker 3: to them. So so you have a you have at
[15:04] Speaker 3: the beginning of Genesis two, basically, you know, the first
[15:07] Speaker 3: verse or the first two verses. It's the beginning of
[15:10] Speaker 3: the entire theology. And right there you act a name,
[15:16] Speaker 3: you take it out of translation. And for me, it
[15:19] Speaker 3: wasn't like, okay, you know, it's just a I don't
[15:23] Speaker 3: think it's a matter of fact, I think it's a psio.
[15:25] Speaker 3: I think that when you look back at who who
[15:29] Speaker 3: did those translations, and what they had to do. From
[15:32] Speaker 3: a political and social perspective, a new religion is being
[15:37] Speaker 3: formed when the canon is being made and you're collecting
[15:39] Speaker 3: all these books from all these different you know stories, yea,
[15:43] Speaker 3: and and you have to you have to kind of
[15:46] Speaker 3: then deliver it to the people. And the people have
[15:48] Speaker 3: gods all over. If you think about the Roman Empire
[15:51] Speaker 3: and the Greeks who basically created the translations, they were
[15:53] Speaker 3: you know, they were managing cultures all over, and what
[15:57] Speaker 3: they had to do is to say, okay, so there
[15:58] Speaker 3: are all these gods, but now this new god that
[16:00] Speaker 3: we're talking about, and this is, you know, the prime God,
[16:03] Speaker 3: he's the Lord. The Lord is bigger than any other
[16:06] Speaker 3: reign god, win, God, fertility god, you name it. He's
[16:10] Speaker 3: the Lord. Okay. But in that very instance they erase
[16:16] Speaker 3: his name, making him nonspecific and basically trying to say,
[16:21] Speaker 3: first of all, he is the supreme God, and second
[16:24] Speaker 3: of all, to put him in a place where he's
[16:26] Speaker 3: not even physical. If you don't have a name, it's
[16:29] Speaker 3: much easier to sell you the story that he's everywhere
[16:32] Speaker 3: all the time.
[16:33] Speaker 1: So you're saying they specifically pulled out one of these
[16:37] Speaker 1: alohem gods to focus on made it seem that he
[16:40] Speaker 1: is the one true creator God. Is that what you're
[16:44] Speaker 1: saying there.
[16:45] Speaker 3: I'm saying that the story of Genesis is the story
[16:49] Speaker 3: of a specific God called Jehovah, if it's not a
[16:54] Speaker 3: story about the one and only and no other God.
[16:58] Speaker 3: In the Book of Genesis, multiple gods are being referred
[17:01] Speaker 3: to all the time, but one and only one is
[17:04] Speaker 3: being referred to by name because he's the one that
[17:07] Speaker 3: ultimately later on will make the covenant with the children
[17:10] Speaker 3: of his brook, so throughout the book. So what I'm
[17:13] Speaker 3: saying is, it's not, as I call it, the the
[17:16] Speaker 3: god oxymoron in the book that you know if I
[17:19] Speaker 3: tell you, describe the meaning of God for me? Right,
[17:22] Speaker 3: and I would ask anybody who's listening to us, you know,
[17:25] Speaker 3: what does God mean for you? God is everywhere. God
[17:27] Speaker 3: knows everything. God has lives in no time. He knows
[17:32] Speaker 3: the past, present, and future. You know you cannot hide
[17:35] Speaker 3: from him, you cannot confuse him. He knows what is
[17:37] Speaker 3: going to happen in advance, and you know there is
[17:40] Speaker 3: no He's like everything right that He is one and
[17:44] Speaker 3: he knows all that is the that is the narrative
[17:48] Speaker 3: of religion. In the book of Genesis, Jehovah starts with
[17:53] Speaker 3: the entire you know, Genesis one is the creation story.
[17:56] Speaker 3: Then Genesis two says, okay, now we're kind of zooming
[17:59] Speaker 3: in on the creation of man. And you see that
[18:03] Speaker 3: the process of creation and uh and and in in
[18:08] Speaker 3: God's or Jehovah's reaction to the outcome is not one
[18:12] Speaker 3: of a god who knows everything, but is of I
[18:14] Speaker 3: would say, of a chief scientist doing his mission, encountering
[18:19] Speaker 3: problems and providing solutions. And I'll and I'll give you
[18:23] Speaker 3: an example. He creates Adam. The beginning UH starts with
[18:27] Speaker 3: Adam and Adam after he gives Adam dominion to the
[18:32] Speaker 3: entire animal kingdom in the earth itself. First of all,
[18:35] Speaker 3: you have to ask why would God create man out
[18:40] Speaker 3: of pure love? Because this is what we are led
[18:42] Speaker 3: to believe. And then on his his first degree would
[18:46] Speaker 3: be you are now in charge of planet Earth. Okay,
[18:49] Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of strange. He's got a he's
[18:51] Speaker 3: already working for him. What second, he notices after a
[18:56] Speaker 3: while that Adam is lonely. So it's described in Genesis
[19:01] Speaker 3: two that God wants to help find or he's searching
[19:07] Speaker 3: for Adam's help. So he devises a plan. He says,
[19:11] Speaker 3: I'll let Adam name all the animals in the animal kingdom,
[19:15] Speaker 3: and one of them will be his help. So Adam
[19:19] Speaker 3: goes and does this naming project, and no help is
[19:23] Speaker 3: to be found, Genesis says. And then God says, okay,
[19:26] Speaker 3: so he hasn't found help, So I need to, now,
[19:30] Speaker 3: you know, go into second gear. Take it a notch up,
[19:34] Speaker 3: and he puts Adam to sleep, and he makes an
[19:37] Speaker 3: incision and takes out what is called in the in
[19:41] Speaker 3: the Hebrew scripture cella cela is also was translated as rib,
[19:48] Speaker 3: but cella and Hebrew can also mean part. It's like
[19:51] Speaker 3: a three dimensional shape of something. So he takes out
[19:55] Speaker 3: that cella and creates even out of Adam. So, yeah,
[20:00] Speaker 3: have to ask yourself a few things. First of all,
[20:02] Speaker 3: we started with the god oxymorn. Why didn't God understand
[20:06] Speaker 3: or God should have known that Adam would have been lonely,
[20:11] Speaker 3: so a he didn't know that. Second, instead of just
[20:13] Speaker 3: manifesting Eve, I mean, you just manifested the entire universe,
[20:18] Speaker 3: the stars, the seas, the sky, everything, was just made.
[20:22] Speaker 3: And now in order to make a woman, you don't
[20:24] Speaker 3: just do magic. You do what is described in the
[20:28] Speaker 3: in the scripture as no less than an operation. And
[20:31] Speaker 3: by the way, this is how I start the introduction
[20:33] Speaker 3: to my book. I you know, when I grew up,
[20:37] Speaker 3: I was you know, I'm in from the from the
[20:40] Speaker 3: eighties seventies, and I you know, Star Wars was like
[20:43] Speaker 3: one of my favorite movies. And in Star Wars, we
[20:46] Speaker 3: loved Star Wars because we saw things that were amazing,
[20:49] Speaker 3: but we could imagine them. The lightsaber, you know, laser lightsaber,
[20:54] Speaker 3: all these cool aircrafts, harvercrafts, we kind of you know,
[20:58] Speaker 3: we know how airplay. So these were like super advanced,
[21:01] Speaker 3: so we can imagine them. But if you think about
[21:03] Speaker 3: then again going back to Genesis, if you think about
[21:10] Speaker 3: an ancient person five thousand, four thousand years ago having
[21:13] Speaker 3: to describe how a person is created, he would not
[21:17] Speaker 3: describe a medical operation. He would describe magic because for him,
[21:21] Speaker 3: medical medical operation was not you know, it wasn't done
[21:24] Speaker 3: then and not It's not only that a medical operation
[21:28] Speaker 3: was described. The phases of the medical operation will described. First, First,
[21:33] Speaker 3: he puts him into deep sleep, mister God just snap
[21:40] Speaker 3: your fingers and create a woman. You have to put
[21:44] Speaker 3: to sleep, deep sleep. And the Bible says, you know,
[21:47] Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's it's it's like deep sleep. It's
[21:51] Speaker 3: not just he put him to sleep. It's not just
[21:53] Speaker 3: you know, he made him unconscious anaesthesia, and then he
[21:59] Speaker 3: did it, and then he took out a part and
[22:03] Speaker 3: then Evel was created. So this is like a super
[22:06] Speaker 3: simplistic description but nonetheless a description of a modern operation.
[22:11] Speaker 3: And then I zoom out and say, you know, we
[22:13] Speaker 3: always live in this. You know, there's this saying who
[22:15] Speaker 3: came first? The chicken in the egg? So who came first?
[22:18] Speaker 3: Man or woman? In genesis, man came first and then
[22:22] Speaker 3: the woman. But you would say, scientifically, a woman needs
[22:25] Speaker 3: to give birth to a man, so who came first?
[22:27] Speaker 3: If we look at the parallels between science and in genesis,
[22:32] Speaker 3: we see that our chromosomes as are the decision of
[22:38] Speaker 3: what gender we are. If you have an X Y
[22:41] Speaker 3: chromosome chromosomes, you're a male. If you have XX, you're
[22:45] Speaker 3: a female, which means that women are a derivative of men.
[22:51] Speaker 3: Because men have both X y, women only have X.
[22:55] Speaker 3: They cannot you know, the father decides the gender because
[23:00] Speaker 3: he's the one that provides the X or the Y.
[23:04] Speaker 3: But the women got double X, not just one X.
[23:08] Speaker 3: They got double because they need to be more resilient
[23:10] Speaker 3: because they are now in charge of the act of creation,
[23:14] Speaker 3: which is another kind of kind of a very interesting
[23:17] Speaker 3: kind of and a philosophical thing to think about. You
[23:20] Speaker 3: know that in the act of and and by the way,
[23:24] Speaker 3: Genesis two finishes with a beautiful and poetic, in my
[23:26] Speaker 3: mind poetic verse that says, and this is why Adam says,
[23:30] Speaker 3: and this is why a man must leave his father
[23:33] Speaker 3: and mother and go live with his wife. Because your
[23:36] Speaker 3: wife is a bone of a bone of your bones.
[23:38] Speaker 3: She is the most strongest, strongest bond you can have.
[23:44] Speaker 3: And with her you repeat the act act of creation,
[23:48] Speaker 3: which was you know, which was only done by God
[23:52] Speaker 3: to begin with. So Genesis two, first of all, again
[23:56] Speaker 3: is describing a medical operation in the steps that could
[24:02] Speaker 3: not have been explained prior to that. Or you know,
[24:04] Speaker 3: I can imagine, and I can I can write the
[24:07] Speaker 3: screenplay for Star Wars because I understand lasers and airplanes,
[24:11] Speaker 3: but I cannot write the science fiction movie for a
[24:16] Speaker 3: thousand years from now because I have no clue how
[24:18] Speaker 3: things will be done. But three thousand or four thousand
[24:21] Speaker 3: years ago they wrote what we know today, which is
[24:24] Speaker 3: the X y women came from the man and the
[24:28] Speaker 3: act of creation was done as a medical operation, not
[24:31] Speaker 3: a manifestation.
[24:33] Speaker 1: Is there any translations that you've come across that would
[24:37] Speaker 1: indicate a grand creator? Who are what created these elo
[24:42] Speaker 1: him beings? Were they created? Any thoughts on that?
[24:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this is what I think about as
[24:48] Speaker 3: as a person and especially as a you know, one
[24:51] Speaker 3: that is now kind of challenging the I would say,
[24:54] Speaker 3: the core or the mainstream paradigm I think, and I cannot,
[24:59] Speaker 3: you know, I can, I can theorize, but I think
[25:01] Speaker 3: that even the Bible kind of hints at it. And
[25:04] Speaker 3: I just mentioned it. Genesis one is the grand creation
[25:10] Speaker 3: of the universe, and it doesn't specify any elohein it
[25:17] Speaker 3: specifies architects or you know, it doesn't specify Elohim. I mean,
[25:20] Speaker 3: it doesn't like a specific deity, just references gods in general.
[25:26] Speaker 3: I think what we're finding now, which is another thing
[25:28] Speaker 3: that I reference in the end of the book, which
[25:31] Speaker 3: is kind of think, you know, I call it the
[25:33] Speaker 3: way forward. When you look and you ask this question.
[25:37] Speaker 3: This is the question that you want an answer for,
[25:39] Speaker 3: but maybe science can find the answer. And this is
[25:42] Speaker 3: where science meets religion. You know, in the last six months,
[25:47] Speaker 3: I've seen all these videos running across the internet and
[25:49] Speaker 3: you see kind of a super super close up of
[25:51] Speaker 3: a human cell and you see that within the tiny
[25:56] Speaker 3: space of the human cell, they have like these micro
[25:59] Speaker 3: machines that create the you know, all the amino acids
[26:04] Speaker 3: and all the different things that we need in order.
[26:06] Speaker 3: And it's like this cannot come out of evolution because
[26:09] Speaker 3: it's a machine, and a machine needs all parts to
[26:12] Speaker 3: work to function, So a machine cannot evolve in the
[26:15] Speaker 3: way these these machines work because these this is not
[26:19] Speaker 3: a machine. This is not a biological machine. When you
[26:21] Speaker 3: look at it under the microscope, it looks like a
[26:23] Speaker 3: mechanical machine. Like they have screws and they have like,
[26:26] Speaker 3: you know, all these quarts and it's really like an
[26:28] Speaker 3: intricate machine. And you think, I think we arrived at
[26:31] Speaker 3: the stage that we understand. And you know also via
[26:34] Speaker 3: psychedelics that there are other realms or maybe other you know,
[26:38] Speaker 3: other dimensions, but this is not what is described in
[26:42] Speaker 3: the Book of Genesis. These are not our religions. This
[26:45] Speaker 3: is separate. And sometimes this need, which is a kind
[26:49] Speaker 3: of psychological need to connect between the books, the scriptures
[26:53] Speaker 3: and the explanation for the universe breaks, It basically fails.
[26:57] Speaker 3: And I think that's that's something we need to let
[26:59] Speaker 3: go of. We need to understand that. For me, by
[27:01] Speaker 3: the way, I have to tell you, as a modern person,
[27:04] Speaker 3: reading the Book of Genesis, it just it connected me
[27:07] Speaker 3: to my roots. It connected me to my roots, and
[27:09] Speaker 3: I think that's a you know, that's a very important
[27:11] Speaker 3: part we're all part of. We all live in a culture.
[27:13] Speaker 3: I live in a culture that has five thousand years
[27:16] Speaker 3: of history, and I enjoyed reading my you know, my
[27:18] Speaker 3: culture's history and even the mind blowing, the mind blowing
[27:25] Speaker 3: possibility that my book is actually disclosure the Book of Genesis.
[27:33] Speaker 3: Later on, and and and let's continue. But before we continue,
[27:36] Speaker 3: I want to take a commercial break and really talk
[27:39] Speaker 3: about what your listeners should be super aware of, because
[27:42] Speaker 3: this is where, this is why my book is even needed.
[27:45] Speaker 3: You know, what's the reason I wrote my book is
[27:47] Speaker 3: because I believe that's what's written in the book is
[27:49] Speaker 3: different than what people are talking about. So let's let's
[27:52] Speaker 3: let's let's backtrack for a second. Sure. One of the
[27:57] Speaker 3: things that I noticed which was really interesting to me,
[27:59] Speaker 3: and I didn't expect the reaction people had to my book.
[28:03] Speaker 3: And out of this reaction, the different types of reaction
[28:06] Speaker 3: to my book, I started to notice a phenomenon which
[28:11] Speaker 3: I which I coined narrative os. Okay, what do I mean?
[28:19] Speaker 3: Some people immediate? The immediate reaction of some people when
[28:22] Speaker 3: they see you see the book behind me with a
[28:25] Speaker 3: spaceship very similar to the one that you have there,
[28:27] Speaker 3: the flying saucer, It's like UFOs, Aliens, Genesis. Come on, Gil,
[28:32] Speaker 3: what are you talking about? You know, come on, you
[28:36] Speaker 3: know you're growing up. You're growing up. Enough of this
[28:39] Speaker 3: UFO stuff. It's cool that you watch a history channel,
[28:41] Speaker 3: it's cool that we talk about it over dinner. But
[28:43] Speaker 3: you're writing a book. You're exposed. You're a serious professional,
[28:46] Speaker 3: you have a credibility to maintain. That's one type of reaction.
[28:49] Speaker 3: The second type of reaction is kind of angry. I've
[28:51] Speaker 3: had this in my family. Some some parts of my
[28:55] Speaker 3: not angry, but ignoring. Some parts of my family are
[28:58] Speaker 3: deeply deeply religions. Yeah, for them, it's like they won't
[29:03] Speaker 3: even open the book. Okay, so for them it's blasphemous
[29:07] Speaker 3: to kind of read anything that could challenge what they
[29:12] Speaker 3: believe that the Bible says. So we have these two extremes.
[29:15] Speaker 3: We have the religious people who are don't bother me,
[29:18] Speaker 3: I don't want to look. There is the come on,
[29:21] Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. Stop with this already,
[29:24] Speaker 3: and everything in between. And what I started to realize
[29:28] Speaker 3: is that if you think about who we are where
[29:32] Speaker 3: what we believe, it really starts, you know, at our genesis,
[29:38] Speaker 3: Where were you born, what culture were you born too?
[29:43] Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, but only at the
[29:45] Speaker 3: age of nine that's the first time you start to
[29:48] Speaker 3: develop critical thinking. Maybe slightly before seven to nine, it's
[29:52] Speaker 3: kind of the critical thinking stage. Before that, you're basically
[29:57] Speaker 3: storage that's being crammed with data. If you were born
[30:01] Speaker 3: in India, you will believe the Indian gods and the
[30:04] Speaker 3: tales of the Mahabarata. If you were born in you know,
[30:07] Speaker 3: the Middle East, that would be the Old Testament or
[30:10] Speaker 3: the Quran. If you were born in the States, most
[30:12] Speaker 3: likely it's Jesus Christ and the New Testament. If you
[30:15] Speaker 3: were born if you were from South America. You know,
[30:19] Speaker 3: wherever you are from, this is who you are and
[30:23] Speaker 3: and the base story of what you were told for
[30:26] Speaker 3: the first few years of your life. It becomes etched
[30:29] Speaker 3: into what I call your operating system in a way
[30:34] Speaker 3: which for you is not something that is even you
[30:38] Speaker 3: don't even understand that you have, and you hold this
[30:41] Speaker 3: belief and you never challenged it. And what I did
[30:46] Speaker 3: in alien versus is basically what I do is basically
[30:50] Speaker 3: I force you to go back. Force is not the
[30:55] Speaker 3: right word. I invite you. I invite you to go
[30:58] Speaker 3: back and and basically open the admin room of your
[31:04] Speaker 3: own operating system and check if the software that was
[31:08] Speaker 3: installed originally actually still holds water. Now, imagine a religious
[31:14] Speaker 3: belief is one of those beliefs. But there are other
[31:17] Speaker 3: fundamental beliefs that we hold as given that should not
[31:23] Speaker 3: be you know, should not be left there unchecked. The
[31:27] Speaker 3: second part, and this is where it gets interesting and
[31:29] Speaker 3: also connected to my profession. When you read words, you
[31:34] Speaker 3: are supposed to understand words and basically have an outcome
[31:40] Speaker 3: or an understanding what they mean. So how come the
[31:45] Speaker 3: religious people read the same words that I'm reading, and
[31:48] Speaker 3: every single one of us has a completely different worldview
[31:50] Speaker 3: coming out of these same words. And this is where
[31:53] Speaker 3: I want to explain to everybody listening a second phenomenon.
[31:57] Speaker 3: When we hear words like I'm speaking now or you
[32:00] Speaker 3: will be reading in a book, these words are not
[32:04] Speaker 3: stored in your memory as words or sentences. We are
[32:09] Speaker 3: not like a like like a storage in the in
[32:12] Speaker 3: the in the mechanical sense. And we don't store sentences
[32:15] Speaker 3: we remember. We might remember sentences. We might they echo
[32:20] Speaker 3: in our head as voices. We we see a kind
[32:23] Speaker 3: of a flash video. We paint a picture in our heads,
[32:26] Speaker 3: right m h. But the words are one thing and
[32:33] Speaker 3: the image in our head is a second thing. In marketing,
[32:37] Speaker 3: we use this all the time. When do we use it?
[32:40] Speaker 3: I just want to again kind of a one on
[32:42] Speaker 3: one on marketing and branding. Imagine imagine a bottle of water,
[32:47] Speaker 3: mineral water. Uh, it doesn't need a lot of branding
[32:51] Speaker 3: because the water is the product. It's transparent. This is
[32:53] Speaker 3: you want to show the water that it's clear, that
[32:55] Speaker 3: it's clean, so the product is. So the written packaging
[32:59] Speaker 3: would be minimum, just giving it some kind of is
[33:02] Speaker 3: it cheap water, expensive water? Maybe the expensive water of
[33:04] Speaker 3: the label will be expensive. The water is the water.
[33:07] Speaker 3: But then you take something cheap or anything else, and
[33:11] Speaker 3: you look at a website of or if you go
[33:13] Speaker 3: to a packaging in the supermarket of something like something
[33:18] Speaker 3: like corn flakes, any type of corn flakes, and it
[33:21] Speaker 3: would be like a happy bunny or you know, anything
[33:25] Speaker 3: but everything to kind of this is the picture that
[33:29] Speaker 3: you have in your mind of happiness and coolness, nothing
[33:34] Speaker 3: which has to do with what's written on the packaging,
[33:36] Speaker 3: which says sodium sugar process day. So we try when
[33:44] Speaker 3: we convince somebody of something, we need to not change
[33:47] Speaker 3: the words. We need to change the mental image. Now
[33:49] Speaker 3: let's go back to Genesis. Okay, I'm going to ask
[33:53] Speaker 3: you a question, and that's a theoretical question, and you
[33:56] Speaker 3: don't have to answer for yourself necessarily, but what you
[33:58] Speaker 3: think your audience will thing when you try to think
[34:01] Speaker 3: of the picture in your head of Adam and Eve
[34:04] Speaker 3: and the conversation with the serpent. Right, so you close
[34:08] Speaker 3: your eyes and think, and you know what I will
[34:10] Speaker 3: answer for you. The most likely image you will have
[34:13] Speaker 3: in your mind is two naked people, a serpent coming
[34:17] Speaker 3: down from a tree, and an apple in Eve's hand. Okay,
[34:21] Speaker 3: that's the picture that we've been given. Now let's talk
[34:26] Speaker 3: about what's written, Okay, And for the entire book, I
[34:30] Speaker 3: keep saying, Look, what I want to show you is
[34:34] Speaker 3: Genesis at its raw stage without any pictures. In your mind,
[34:38] Speaker 3: what's written is completely different. First of all, the serpent
[34:43] Speaker 3: is conversing with Eve. If the person is converted, If
[34:48] Speaker 3: the serpent is conversing with Eve, can we the duct
[34:52] Speaker 3: that it's not just like a sesame street type of
[34:55] Speaker 3: serpent or snake that's on the ground and has no
[34:58] Speaker 3: mouth and no tongue, cannot make a human voice and speak.
[35:02] Speaker 3: We can make that assurgent. So obviously it's not a
[35:05] Speaker 3: serpent in the sense, it's somebody referred to as the serpent.
[35:08] Speaker 3: Point number one, point number two. The serpent says, Eve says,
[35:14] Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to eat from this tree because God
[35:17] Speaker 3: says not that I will die, And the Hebrew says motamut,
[35:22] Speaker 3: this is like die, you should die. This is like
[35:25] Speaker 3: the most extreme form of a warning. And the snake
[35:30] Speaker 3: or the serpent says no, no, no, no, all good,
[35:34] Speaker 3: you won't die. So obviously this is an entity with
[35:38] Speaker 3: intelligence who knows the backstory of this tree or whatever
[35:43] Speaker 3: it was, and tells Eve, despite what Jehovah told you,
[35:48] Speaker 3: I'm telling you that it's completely safe to eat, and
[35:51] Speaker 3: she does, and he's right, and then they gain knowledge.
[35:56] Speaker 3: So a few things come out of this again story,
[36:01] Speaker 3: which is again at the very beginning. First of all,
[36:04] Speaker 3: the serpent is not this dumb SESAMEI type street type
[36:08] Speaker 3: serpent that you that we all keep in our head. Second,
[36:11] Speaker 3: there was never an apple in Genesis. Genesis never mentions
[36:16] Speaker 3: the word or the fruit. It just says you are
[36:20] Speaker 3: not allowed to eat from this fruit of knowledge. It
[36:23] Speaker 3: doesn't say apple. We have seen apple. Because all the
[36:28] Speaker 3: paintings that have been you know, painted over time by
[36:31] Speaker 3: mainly been commissioned by the church, by the different religious institutions,
[36:36] Speaker 3: have implanted a very i hate to say it, a
[36:40] Speaker 3: sesame Street type of picture in our head of a
[36:43] Speaker 3: snake on the ground, which is an evil, and he's
[36:47] Speaker 3: telling Eve to eat the apple. But no, it's not
[36:51] Speaker 3: a snake, it's an entity. He's intelligent. He knows the
[36:54] Speaker 3: plan that Eve is not aware of. He's right because
[36:58] Speaker 3: she eats and she gains knowledge. And then I ask
[37:00] Speaker 3: a simple question. We also have been taught to think
[37:07] Speaker 3: that the snake is actually Satan. He's the villain in
[37:12] Speaker 3: this story. But if you think about the magnitude of
[37:16] Speaker 3: what the snake actually did, it's actually be the one
[37:19] Speaker 3: that bestowed knowledge to the humanity without the snake. The
[37:24] Speaker 3: original plan of the almighty God, which should have known
[37:28] Speaker 3: and guessed that the snake, the serpent would have told Eve. Otherwise,
[37:33] Speaker 3: this omnipresent, all knowing God obviously is not. He's unaware
[37:39] Speaker 3: that one of his, one of the godly entities known
[37:42] Speaker 3: in the story as the serpent, has knowledge that she
[37:46] Speaker 3: will not die and aids her in gaining knowledge. So
[37:51] Speaker 3: a couple of things here. First of all, I give
[37:52] Speaker 3: credit to the snake. By the way, I never expected
[37:55] Speaker 3: this when I started the book. I this is not
[37:57] Speaker 3: one of the things I intended to write about. But
[37:59] Speaker 3: you know, I just read it slowly and really thought
[38:02] Speaker 3: about every person I'm reading, and all of a sudden,
[38:05] Speaker 3: I realized that God's plan, the God that we pray to,
[38:08] Speaker 3: the God, the God that we ask forgiveness form, the
[38:11] Speaker 3: God that all that his original plan was not to
[38:16] Speaker 3: give us knowledge. The knowledge was actually given to us
[38:18] Speaker 3: by a serpent. The same serpent is also mentioned in
[38:24] Speaker 3: other cultures. Now you jump five thousand miles westward towards
[38:30] Speaker 3: Mesopotamia and you discover Quatsakuatl in Mexico, and he is
[38:39] Speaker 3: the god of knowledge. So all over the world, the
[38:45] Speaker 3: God of knowledge was known as the Serpent, and in
[38:48] Speaker 3: the Hebrew scripture it's also there, but as an act
[38:51] Speaker 3: of rebellion against the prime entity, which is Jehovah. So
[38:58] Speaker 3: it's it's interesting. I think, what you know, if you
[39:01] Speaker 3: have to take me and ask me, you know, so
[39:02] Speaker 3: what happened there? I think that there was some type
[39:07] Speaker 3: of rivalry between these two gods deities, you know, these
[39:12] Speaker 3: two commanders. Actually, I think the Serpent was much more
[39:15] Speaker 3: global than Jehovah. I think Jehovah kind of his mission
[39:19] Speaker 3: was here in Mesopotamia. The Serpent is global. You find
[39:22] Speaker 3: him in Mexico, you find him in India. He's everywhere,
[39:28] Speaker 3: always bestowing knowledge and being the god that is actually
[39:34] Speaker 3: helping the rise of the rise of civilization. So then
[39:41] Speaker 3: Eve and Adam gain knowledge, and all of a sudden
[39:44] Speaker 3: they realize they're naked and they hide, and then you
[39:47] Speaker 3: hear again another very explicit description that God is not
[39:53] Speaker 3: almighty all knowing because he's basically back. We're back in Genesis.
[39:57] Speaker 3: We're back in the garden of Eden, and God is
[39:59] Speaker 3: walking around and he says, and the Hebrew Scripture again
[40:05] Speaker 3: uses a very specific word ayeka, where art thou? I
[40:11] Speaker 3: can ask you? If you go out and you don't
[40:14] Speaker 3: come back in an hour, I can ask you? Or
[40:17] Speaker 3: what's up you? Hey? Where art thou? Right? But a
[40:20] Speaker 3: god should know where art thou. God doesn't need to
[40:25] Speaker 3: send the what's up? Or go in the garden and say, adam, e,
[40:28] Speaker 3: where are you? Doesn't make sense as a god, and
[40:32] Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense for a description or for a
[40:35] Speaker 3: book that is trying to convince us of an omnipresent,
[40:39] Speaker 3: omni knowing God, which is the same God now walking
[40:43] Speaker 3: in the garden and looking for them. And when he
[40:46] Speaker 3: found him, he was so angry that they disobeyed him.
[40:53] Speaker 3: That again we find a very interesting alien verse. He
[40:56] Speaker 3: banishes them. So first of all, he gives you know,
[40:59] Speaker 3: any woman listening to the show should know that the
[41:04] Speaker 3: pain of birth is linked to the thin of eve. Right,
[41:09] Speaker 3: And God says, from from now they're on, you will
[41:12] Speaker 3: bear children with pain, and he banishes them from heaven.
[41:18] Speaker 3: And when he banishes them from heaven. He doesn't just
[41:20] Speaker 3: make Heaven disappear. You're a god, You created the universe,
[41:24] Speaker 3: You did everything. Now the only thing that these two
[41:27] Speaker 3: people kind of you know, they went against your protocol
[41:30] Speaker 3: and now you don't want them anymore. So, okay, two
[41:32] Speaker 3: innocent people who just gain knowledge are not a threat,
[41:34] Speaker 3: but obviously they were. And what God does immediately and
[41:38] Speaker 3: this is another very big surprise, and the first explicit
[41:42] Speaker 3: also pointing to the fact that God is a society
[41:46] Speaker 3: or God has a troops with them, because immediately he
[41:50] Speaker 3: stations two cherubim in the entrance. Cherubim is the word
[41:55] Speaker 3: used for some type of godly entity which is like
[41:59] Speaker 3: a centurion, like a guard. And he installed the flaming
[42:05] Speaker 3: swirling sword at the entrance to the Garden of Eden
[42:11] Speaker 3: to God. And now the second secret is given from
[42:14] Speaker 3: the second tree, which is only then mentioned as the
[42:18] Speaker 3: Tree of Life. So so and the reason he says,
[42:26] Speaker 3: it's the reason they are banished. He says, if they
[42:29] Speaker 3: now gain also access to the Tree of Life, they
[42:31] Speaker 3: will be completely like us. Why because the reason they
[42:36] Speaker 3: were not supposed to eat from the Tree of Knowledge
[42:39] Speaker 3: was so they will not be like God's The serpent,
[42:45] Speaker 3: and the discussion between the serpent and eve is your
[42:49] Speaker 3: eyes shall be open, and you shall be as gods.
[42:52] Speaker 3: So the first act of disobedience made us closer to
[42:56] Speaker 3: God because we gain knowledge. The second odd that was,
[43:01] Speaker 3: I would say, put us equal to God, is that
[43:03] Speaker 3: we have access to the tree of life. And that
[43:08] Speaker 3: is why God was so adamant that it won't happen,
[43:11] Speaker 3: and that's why he stationed the Chieru beam and put technology. Again,
[43:15] Speaker 3: going back, why would the Bible describe technology? I keep,
[43:20] Speaker 3: you know, I look at it, you know, very in
[43:23] Speaker 3: a very simplistic manner, and say, listen, this is the
[43:26] Speaker 3: book that's supposed to be the foundation of monotheism, a
[43:29] Speaker 3: single God, a God that can do anything at any time.
[43:32] Speaker 3: Yet the story we are reading is different. If you
[43:36] Speaker 3: and I were not Westerners and we just happened to
[43:39] Speaker 3: pick up the Book of Genesis and we have never
[43:41] Speaker 3: heard about it or read it, and we read through,
[43:44] Speaker 3: we would have not have even imagined that it's a
[43:47] Speaker 3: book about one God, or it's a book that the
[43:50] Speaker 3: God which is being described is the almighty, all knowing God.
[43:54] Speaker 3: It's a very visceral interaction. It's a very it's an
[43:57] Speaker 3: it's an interaction with high technology five thousand years ago.
[44:02] Speaker 1: Do you think it was more of one fractured group
[44:06] Speaker 1: of celestial extraterrestrial beings or different species that took up
[44:14] Speaker 1: different places around the planet to take control over different
[44:18] Speaker 1: groups of people.
[44:21] Speaker 3: That's a that's an amazing question, uh and and one
[44:24] Speaker 3: that I think can make me jump to Genesis six. Okay,
[44:29] Speaker 3: so the guard experiment is successful. I'll skip a few
[44:33] Speaker 3: interesting verses. I hope people can read it in the book,
[44:39] Speaker 3: and we arrive at Genesis six, which is the most
[44:42] Speaker 3: mind blowing I think chapter in Genesis. This is this
[44:49] Speaker 3: is where we are connected to alien verses. It starts
[44:54] Speaker 3: with the I would say, comments that the experiment is successful.
[45:00] Speaker 3: There are many people all over the world, and then
[45:04] Speaker 3: there are only four verses. And in these four verses
[45:07] Speaker 3: the following happens. The sons of God see the women
[45:12] Speaker 3: of earth, that they are good, that they are fair,
[45:17] Speaker 3: and they went down and they took them as wife
[45:23] Speaker 3: whoever they wanted. Okay, I might have not said it correctly,
[45:27] Speaker 3: but that's the point. They the sons of God see
[45:31] Speaker 3: that the women of the earth are good, and they
[45:34] Speaker 3: go down and they take them as wives. And then
[45:37] Speaker 3: it says, then a felim. This is where the first
[45:40] Speaker 3: time that the film is like a you know, like
[45:42] Speaker 3: an ancient astronaut buzzword. Then aphelim were in the earth
[45:47] Speaker 3: in those days. Who are then apheling. So again, let's
[45:50] Speaker 3: go back to the translation. In Hebrew, the word to
[45:54] Speaker 3: fall is naphal. All right, naphal is to fall. Are
[46:00] Speaker 3: the people who fell? Where did they fall from? They
[46:05] Speaker 3: came from above? Okay, so they came from above, and
[46:08] Speaker 3: that's why they were called the filing. And they intermarried,
[46:13] Speaker 3: and the sons that were born to them were men
[46:16] Speaker 3: of renown. In Hebrew, the word is gibrim. It's like heroes.
[46:20] Speaker 3: They were like Superman. Okay, hem gibri, they were like heroes.
[46:26] Speaker 3: Now what followed was that, first of all, these were
[46:31] Speaker 3: very big people and they just they were. They became savages,
[46:36] Speaker 3: and they ultimately there was a lot of evil on earth.
[46:43] Speaker 3: God sees this. This is like four verses, not more
[46:46] Speaker 3: sees this says, holy shit, my experiment has been contaminated.
[46:51] Speaker 3: I need a restart. I need a restart. And that's
[46:54] Speaker 3: why you have the flood.
[46:56] Speaker 2: The flood is is the is the action or the
[47:01] Speaker 2: reaction to the fact that the sons of God came down,
[47:06] Speaker 2: created this hybrid race, screwed up the plan, cannibalism started, uh.
[47:12] Speaker 3: And then God says, oh my God, I have to
[47:14] Speaker 3: control this. Let's wipe everything out flood. So a few
[47:17] Speaker 3: things I have to say here. First of all, think
[47:22] Speaker 3: about what God did. He exterminated every living soul, including animals,
[47:30] Speaker 3: except for the clan, the Noah clan, the one he
[47:33] Speaker 3: put in the right, the Noah's Ark, and the animals
[47:37] Speaker 3: with him. Supposedly there were the you know, the survivors,
[47:40] Speaker 3: the Eskaps from the cataclysm. But his his his his
[47:45] Speaker 3: actions were dramatic, and I kept I kept thinking why
[47:50] Speaker 3: from a from a from a narrative perspective, again going
[47:52] Speaker 3: back to my profession, and I if I have to
[47:54] Speaker 3: create a narrative of a Bible of God controlling and
[47:58] Speaker 3: you know, having a covenant with these people and creating
[48:03] Speaker 3: all these miracles, why would I even include this chapter?
[48:07] Speaker 3: And the reason is people have to understand why it's
[48:09] Speaker 3: so fundamental is that you cannot explain the flood if
[48:15] Speaker 3: there isn't something so fundamentally evil before. And that's the
[48:20] Speaker 3: that's the age of the Nefili. Now these are only
[48:23] Speaker 3: four and five verses, but what's interesting about them is
[48:27] Speaker 3: that there is a book, the Book of Enoch, which
[48:30] Speaker 3: describes it in much much more detail. And here I
[48:34] Speaker 3: want to I want to open your listener's eyes. So
[48:37] Speaker 3: the Book of Enoch is an amazing book, and the
[48:39] Speaker 3: first the first chapter or Enoch one, a very earthly
[48:45] Speaker 3: description is provided. The sons of God saw the women
[48:48] Speaker 3: of the earth were good. Two hundred of God's people.
[48:53] Speaker 3: Listen to what I'm saying to you. The Book of
[48:56] Speaker 3: Enoch says two hundred of God's people, two hundred of
[48:59] Speaker 3: the Elohim, decided to go down and mate with the
[49:04] Speaker 3: women of the earth. In the Book of Enoch, it
[49:07] Speaker 3: says these two hundred Elohim or else, they went down
[49:15] Speaker 3: at Mount Hermon. Hermon mountain is at the north of Israel.
[49:19] Speaker 3: It's actually the only place where we have like a
[49:21] Speaker 3: pseudo skiing resort. It's high up in the mountains. The
[49:26] Speaker 3: reason it's called Mount Hermon is because the word in
[49:29] Speaker 3: Hebrew herem is like a pact, and they knew that
[49:35] Speaker 3: they had to make a pact when they go down,
[49:37] Speaker 3: because they're acting against the will of their commander, and
[49:40] Speaker 3: they knew they might be reprimanded. What's interesting about this,
[49:45] Speaker 3: and going back to my Elohim claim, is that their
[49:49] Speaker 3: names are very interesting. Many people, I'm sure, are not
[49:54] Speaker 3: even aware that they have names of gods. So let
[49:57] Speaker 3: me explain. Two hundred soldiers went down to Mount Tremont.
[50:02] Speaker 3: Their names were rema El, Nuri El, danny L, zaki L,
[50:08] Speaker 3: barak El. If you notice the pattern, you would not
[50:13] Speaker 3: understand the word in Hebrew, but Barraquel is the It's
[50:16] Speaker 3: like the l of lightning. It's the god of lightning.
[50:20] Speaker 3: Danny L is the god of law. Dan in Hebrew
[50:24] Speaker 3: is law. Danny L is the god of law, of rule,
[50:32] Speaker 3: of order. The names that we have today in mainstream society, Daniel, Raphael,
[50:39] Speaker 3: all these l names are actually echoes from the angels
[50:43] Speaker 3: or from the god people that came down on Mount
[50:46] Speaker 3: Tremont and mate it with the women of the earth.
[50:49] Speaker 3: And later on in the Book of Enoch, it's described
[50:52] Speaker 3: how furious God was that these this faction of soldiers.
[50:57] Speaker 3: And I'm connecting it to your question. This faction of
[50:59] Speaker 3: soul soldiers came down and mated with a woman of
[51:03] Speaker 3: the earth and just created Havoc on his experiment, and
[51:06] Speaker 3: he sends down additional angels. Raphael. By the way, Daniel,
[51:11] Speaker 3: if anybody here from your listeners, is called l Ripa
[51:15] Speaker 3: in Hebrew is healed, So this is the god of healing.
[51:20] Speaker 3: And they went down. In the Book of Enocats describe
[51:23] Speaker 3: each one of these El's god was responsible for bestowing
[51:28] Speaker 3: knowledge in his area of expertise. So the god of
[51:32] Speaker 3: the stars gave the knowledge of cosmology, and asa l
[51:36] Speaker 3: the god of iron gave the knowledge of metallurgy, and
[51:39] Speaker 3: so on and so forth. So these beings came down,
[51:43] Speaker 3: and they did not just mate with the women of
[51:44] Speaker 3: the earth. That's kind of a very you know, the
[51:46] Speaker 3: outcome was important to it. So they focused on the
[51:50] Speaker 3: mating and the hybrids, which caused Kavic. But what happened
[51:53] Speaker 3: in parallel, which is also very important to the conclusion
[51:56] Speaker 3: of the book, is that they bestowed knowledge to civilization,
[52:00] Speaker 3: to to the to the local population. And I believe
[52:03] Speaker 3: this occurring. This occurred in various places across the world,
[52:08] Speaker 3: and the way to identify and to to to to
[52:13] Speaker 3: verify it are the handbags. Later in my book I
[52:18] Speaker 3: I I basically UH created this new framework I call
[52:23] Speaker 3: the New Genesis, and then the New Genesis I pull
[52:26] Speaker 3: out and say, hey, listen, the story of my people,
[52:28] Speaker 3: the story of Genesis. Everything that I told you about
[52:30] Speaker 3: that is we believed was pure, purely religious, which is
[52:33] Speaker 3: actually a tale of a God interacting physically. And we
[52:39] Speaker 3: you know, we didn't talk about the Sodom and Gomora
[52:43] Speaker 3: and the bombing and the Secretsia document which I uncovered.
[52:46] Speaker 3: I'll get to that to that in a second. But
[52:49] Speaker 3: that God and those tales exist globally. We have to
[52:53] Speaker 3: stop thinking about this as something local. And the handbags
[52:58] Speaker 3: are the clue. When I was in Mexico City and
[53:00] Speaker 3: I went to the Museum of Natural History in New
[53:04] Speaker 3: Mexico in Mexico City, and you watch there are what's
[53:08] Speaker 3: called the all Mac monument nineteen. That's kind of and
[53:14] Speaker 3: I would ask anybody to just do a search all
[53:18] Speaker 3: mech Monument all Mac Monument nineteen. You see a kind
[53:23] Speaker 3: of being in some type of serpent looking craft, and
[53:30] Speaker 3: that being is holding a handbag. If you now do
[53:35] Speaker 3: an additional Google search and you do Anunaki Mesopotamia, and
[53:41] Speaker 3: these are cultures which are widely apart, you would find
[53:46] Speaker 3: beings holding the exact same handbag, the mysterious handbags that
[53:53] Speaker 3: we just don't know what the origin is. But the
[53:55] Speaker 3: fact is these were people or this was some type
[53:59] Speaker 3: of advanced civilization that was traveling, traversing the earth. Some
[54:06] Speaker 3: of them were interacting with men and creating havoc. And
[54:09] Speaker 3: that's why you have all the you know, the flood
[54:11] Speaker 3: myth is it, it's a global myth. It doesn't just
[54:15] Speaker 3: exist in Genesis. It exists in many other tales from
[54:19] Speaker 3: again from Mesopotamia to India to the Greek myths Zeus.
[54:26] Speaker 3: Zeus is the one that decides again to punish human
[54:30] Speaker 3: race because they've gone evil, and it's Prometheus who basically
[54:33] Speaker 3: tells his son to take a boat and escape the flood.
[54:39] Speaker 3: And in the in Genesis, it's the Jehovah telling telling Noah.
[54:45] Speaker 3: So you know, this story happened everywhere. Now, were these
[54:50] Speaker 3: completely different beings from different stars, I don't know. We
[54:54] Speaker 3: don't know, but we do know as far as the
[54:58] Speaker 3: handbags are concerned, that there was one dominant culture I
[55:03] Speaker 3: would say, alien culture that was traversing the world, that
[55:06] Speaker 3: was bestowing knowledge, that was sharing uh information and or
[55:11] Speaker 3: and Weill revered as gods and for the people interacting
[55:15] Speaker 3: with him. I'll take you fast forward to uh Uh
[55:18] Speaker 3: to a very a very kind of by the way
[55:21] Speaker 3: verse in towards the closing of Genesis, Jacob walks back
[55:27] Speaker 3: into the land of Israel. He kind of escapes his uh.
[55:30] Speaker 3: He's he's avoiding his big brother, which he kind of
[55:34] Speaker 3: cheated from a blessing, and he's going back to the
[55:36] Speaker 3: land of Israel, and he's pretty afraid of him. And
[55:39] Speaker 3: and he goes in the in the in the in
[55:42] Speaker 3: the in the in the Judea desert, the one behind
[55:45] Speaker 3: me uh and he's walking and he sees a camp
[55:50] Speaker 3: of what do you refer to as the camp of
[55:52] Speaker 3: the gods. And he says, because this is the camp,
[55:55] Speaker 3: this is where the gods camp, I will call this
[55:58] Speaker 3: place Mahanaim. Mahanaim is the camp of God. Mahanee in
[56:04] Speaker 3: Hebrew is camp God Mahanaim. You know that this place
[56:10] Speaker 3: I can drive to Machanine today. Mahanim exists. It's a
[56:14] Speaker 3: physical place here in Israel. You can drive to it.
[56:18] Speaker 3: Nineteen nine point nine percent of Israelis or Jews can
[56:21] Speaker 3: drive next to it and not even realized how the
[56:23] Speaker 3: name came to being. But the name came to be
[56:26] Speaker 3: by the fact that one of our forefathers walked there,
[56:29] Speaker 3: saw a camp of the gods and said, I will
[56:31] Speaker 3: call this place Mahanaim because this is where the gods camp.
[56:34] Speaker 3: It was a natural occurrence for ancient people to see
[56:38] Speaker 3: these advanced beings interacting with them, and they revered them,
[56:45] Speaker 3: revered them. They were you know, they revered them, and
[56:49] Speaker 3: they were also very much afraid of them. And maybe
[56:53] Speaker 3: to kind of wrap up, I cannot have this podcast
[56:59] Speaker 3: not mentioned the story of Sodom and Gamara because there
[57:02] Speaker 3: I also kind of I made a connection that I
[57:04] Speaker 3: think nobody else made before. It's a kind of science fiction. So, uh,
[57:10] Speaker 3: Sodom and Gamora starts in a very cool way. It's
[57:12] Speaker 3: again multiple gods. Abraham sees three people walking towards him
[57:17] Speaker 3: in the desert, towards his tent. He immediately recognizes them
[57:20] Speaker 3: as different. He immediately bows down and says, your guest,
[57:24] Speaker 3: you must come to my tent and I'm gonna feed you.
[57:26] Speaker 3: And and they do, and they they identify themselves as God,
[57:32] Speaker 3: as the gods, and he says, and the gods say
[57:35] Speaker 3: to him, listen, we're gonna We heard the cry of
[57:38] Speaker 3: the people from Sodom and gomor We're gonna go down
[57:40] Speaker 3: and inspect what's going on there because the sin we
[57:42] Speaker 3: we think we're gonna annihilate the city because it's so sinful.
[57:47] Speaker 3: So I'll go back to the to the God oxymoron.
[57:51] Speaker 3: The gods need to go down to inspect, omnipresent, omnly
[57:56] Speaker 3: knowing God that doesn't need to do that. Second then
[58:01] Speaker 3: starts very like visceral and human like negotiation. Abraham says
[58:08] Speaker 3: to God, but what if they are fifty righteous people
[58:10] Speaker 3: in the city, will you still annihilate it? And Jehovah says,
[58:13] Speaker 3: you know what, there are three people there, remember but
[58:16] Speaker 3: one of them. Jehovah says, no, no, no, they're fifty, I
[58:18] Speaker 3: won't And then Abraham says, and if they're forty, he
[58:22] Speaker 3: says no, and he says thirty. And they go down
[58:24] Speaker 3: and it's really like interesting they actually said forty three.
[58:26] Speaker 3: It's like like a negotiation. And then they reach ten
[58:30] Speaker 3: and God doesn't answer anymore. It's almost like a Netflix episode.
[58:33] Speaker 3: It ends, God turns around and leaves end of the episode. Yeah.
[58:39] Speaker 3: Then the next episode starts and you have two angels
[58:43] Speaker 3: walking towards the city of Solomon. So you're thinking, okay,
[58:46] Speaker 3: what do you mean two angels walking in our heads again,
[58:49] Speaker 3: angels or people with beings with feathered the wings, and
[58:53] Speaker 3: they're like, you know, fair skin and they're walking probably
[58:57] Speaker 3: like no, there're fucking and and uh, Lot, Abraham's nephew
[59:05] Speaker 3: or brother in law, sees him and bows down to
[59:08] Speaker 3: the ground again, understanding that they're that they're special. Now,
[59:11] Speaker 3: that they're so special that when he takes them home,
[59:13] Speaker 3: the entire village is in iraka saying hey, hey, hey,
[59:17] Speaker 3: bring those people outside, we want them. And on the
[59:22] Speaker 3: other hand, Lots so protective of them because they're so special.
[59:25] Speaker 3: And how do I know that Lot thinks that they're
[59:28] Speaker 3: super special, because then Lot says something amazing. He says,
[59:34] Speaker 3: take my daughters who did not know men, and do
[59:39] Speaker 3: with them as you want, but don't touch my guests.
[59:43] Speaker 3: So Lot is offering his daughters, who are virgins, to
[59:47] Speaker 3: be defiled by the mob, only to protect the guests.
[59:52] Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna you know, there's no like I'm
[59:54] Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not judging this culturally, but I'm saying
[59:57] Speaker 3: this is a signal to us that the statue of
[1:00:01] Speaker 3: the angels of the people that were so big in
[1:00:04] Speaker 3: the eyes of lock that he even forfeited his paternal
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: instincts to protect his daughters. I have a daughter. Just
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: thinking about what he said just throws me in, you know,
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: and shiver. It gives me shivers. He wants to protect
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: them so badly. And then the mob refuses and they
[1:00:21] Speaker 3: break in, and then something amazing happens. In English it
[1:00:25] Speaker 3: sounds regular. And the angels rendered them with blind bestowed
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: or rendered them blind? Okay. Smote them with blindness is
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: the word. Smote them with blindness. Okay, So what you
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: think is they did some type of magic and just
[1:00:43] Speaker 3: made them blind. So this is what English does to you.
[1:00:47] Speaker 3: This is the picture you have in your head. But
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: in Hebrew it's it's different. In Hebrew, it says he
[1:00:53] Speaker 3: kuam bestan verein san vern is hit them with lights.
[1:01:00] Speaker 3: This is a weapon. This is almost like a Jedi sword,
[1:01:05] Speaker 3: a pulsing light at high voltage that renders you blind.
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: So the blindness is not magical, it's technological. I you know,
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: I served in the military. I know how you enter
[1:01:18] Speaker 3: a room when there is a possibility when you want
[1:01:20] Speaker 3: to render the people in the room blind. When you
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: break into a hostage situation, you use blinding lights. It's
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: one of the tactics that you could use, and they
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: use it and they render them blind. But the translation
[1:01:34] Speaker 3: almost washes away the technology and gives way to magic
[1:01:38] Speaker 3: because you only talk about the effect. You don't talk
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: about the instrument. The instrument is a weapon that renders
[1:01:44] Speaker 3: you blind. So the gods did not even or the
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: angels did not even use their own bodily force because
[1:01:50] Speaker 3: their god or angels that they can fist fight their
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: way out of the mob. They use their light weapons.
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: And again going back to my Star Wars analogy, if
[1:02:00] Speaker 3: you are an author of a Bible and you're just
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: imagining these stories, you could not imagine a light weapon
[1:02:09] Speaker 3: because it's not even in your psychic culture to even
[1:02:13] Speaker 3: imagine these type of things. Again, I'm in technology. I've
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: been doing technology for the larger part of my life.
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: Ask me now to describe technology one hundred years from
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: now and I break down. I cannot ask me to
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: do it for a thousand years from now and it's
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: it's unimaginable. So there has to be something in it.
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: And that grain of truth also carries and this is
[1:02:35] Speaker 3: where my discovery happened. And then they escape. So they
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: render them blind with this weapon, and they manage to escape,
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: and the angels are adamant. We have to go because
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: they know that the weapon your haaa is going to use.
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: It's not a magical weapon of of a god that
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: can just hit the evil. It's not that type of
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: magical weapon. It's a bombardment of picked scale and it's
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: a visceral weapon. So run. There's going to be a
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: damaged perimeter. So they run, they escape, and the and
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: the and the instruction is don't look back and lot
[1:03:13] Speaker 3: and Lot's wife looks back, and she turns into a
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: pillar of salt, which is again it's kind of like
[1:03:19] Speaker 3: it's such an odd impact of looking back at something
[1:03:23] Speaker 3: being disrupted, like a disruction. Don't look back, and and
[1:03:28] Speaker 3: it could be twofold one. It's some kind of like
[1:03:31] Speaker 3: minor nuclear weapon that the flash can render you blind.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: But she doesn't turn blind like what happened to the
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: guys before. She turns into a pillar of salt. So
[1:03:41] Speaker 3: here and this is I cannot take any process credit
[1:03:46] Speaker 3: for it, but merely kind of karma. I was just
[1:03:49] Speaker 3: digging around archives Open of Information Acts CIA archives, and
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: I just stumbled upon the document that was that came
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: out of the KGBX and was arrived at the CIA
[1:04:03] Speaker 3: after Gorbachev's kind of the you know, in the nineties,
[1:04:06] Speaker 3: when kind of the USSR starting to dismantle, and the
[1:04:09] Speaker 3: CIA got hold of a lot of KGB documents, and
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: in one of those documents there's a description of a
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: meeting over an encounter of five or twenty three Russian
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: soldiers with aliens after some type of altercation, so the
[1:04:27] Speaker 3: soldiers shot their craft down or something. What happened thereafter
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: is that the aliens got together and created the ball
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: of light, which rendered twenty one out of the twenty
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: three soldiers into a rock. The twenty two soldiers, which
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: were right nearby but were protected by a shade and
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: did not see the light, were unharmed, exactly in the
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: same way that Lot and the crew and his daughters
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: were all running away. She turns back, she sees the lights,
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: she turns into a rock or a pillar of salt,
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: and they're all unharmed in the same way the Russian
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: soldiers are petrified, turned into The molecular structure of what
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: they turned into was one to one as Limestone and
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: the two soldiers that were in the shade were unharmed.
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: So it's speculation. It's cool speculation, But you think, hey,
[1:05:27] Speaker 3: this is this is a and the impact of a
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: weapon that you know that was activated in the Sodom
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: in the Moor story and to a lesser degree or
[1:05:40] Speaker 3: like a small use of it with twenty three people
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: and not bombing a whole city, but creating the same impact.
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: So it's a technology. And these things happen all over Genesis.
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: You know, we're kind of running out of time, but
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: I'm telling you every third fourth verse of Genesis you
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: could read it in my book. What I try to
[1:06:00] Speaker 3: do is just give order. I know people are, you know,
[1:06:03] Speaker 3: when they're passionate about this topic and then they see
[1:06:05] Speaker 3: this thing on a history channel and they hear this
[1:06:08] Speaker 3: reel on on TikTok and it's it's out of order.
[1:06:11] Speaker 3: So at least to begin with the book of Genesis,
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: Alien versus the Coding Genesis is about putting order into
[1:06:18] Speaker 3: it and really showing you the system. And it's not
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: just the system of how to read Genesis in its
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: raw form, but it's also how to see that you
[1:06:29] Speaker 3: are being played into a narrative. How the translation smooth
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: over things that make you not talk about it, like
[1:06:37] Speaker 3: the name of God. Why does God have a name?
[1:06:39] Speaker 3: By the way, it's a beautiful name. Yehovah sounded like Trump.
[1:06:43] Speaker 3: It's a beautiful name. It's a Yovah is past, present, future,
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: it's it's it's a fitting name for for for for
[1:06:52] Speaker 3: supreme entity. But it's an entity with a name. And
[1:06:56] Speaker 3: it's really really interesting to see how the connection between
[1:07:00] Speaker 3: things that we read in this experiment and modern science
[1:07:03] Speaker 3: with you know, with the x Y chromosome and who
[1:07:06] Speaker 3: came first, and the weapons and many other things that
[1:07:10] Speaker 3: I mentioned, like the flaming swords of the Garden of Eden.
[1:07:13] Speaker 3: It's it's an amazing tale. It shouldn't undermine anybody's faith,
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: because I do think that a the universe could be
[1:07:24] Speaker 3: sprawling with additionals, you know, civilizations, but there could be
[1:07:32] Speaker 3: a larger story. And even those advanced civilizations which might
[1:07:36] Speaker 3: have turned into our gods, they might not be the
[1:07:40] Speaker 3: ones controlling the world or the fabric, the fabric of
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: time and space. There might be even something bigger. Because
[1:07:49] Speaker 3: if you take us as people a thousand years forward,
[1:07:54] Speaker 3: if we manage not to screw up things and blow
[1:07:56] Speaker 3: each other to death. And we just advanced along the
[1:08:00] Speaker 3: path of technology and knowledge in a thousand years, My friend,
[1:08:05] Speaker 3: we are not in this planet. We are probably finding
[1:08:09] Speaker 3: other planets, perhaps finding other civilizations which have not advanced yet,
[1:08:13] Speaker 3: perhaps bestowing them with our knowledge. I don't know who
[1:08:16] Speaker 3: we will be and what we will become, but it's
[1:08:18] Speaker 3: not out of the realm of imagination to pragmatically think
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: that it's a possibility. I'm not like inventing something that's
[1:08:28] Speaker 3: not feasible now, because we're already started our space adventure. Right.
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: It is very interesting what I'd like to close on.
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: During Biblical times, it seems we had interactions, open interactions
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: with these beings quite often they walked the earth with us.
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: What do you think happened between then and now to
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: where we have no trace of these beings anymore? Only
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: within UFO abductions or contact experiences we may hear about
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: connecting with something like that. Why do you think they left?
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a really good closure. So
[1:09:10] Speaker 3: my theories as follows, first of all again to put
[1:09:12] Speaker 3: order into things and and and and also connect to
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: to your question, why do you think they left. I
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: think it started with our you know this this whole
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: argument or discussion or dialogue, ancient civilization theory, Graham Hancock,
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: ancient astronaut theory, Eric Flondanakin, and the rest. In my
[1:09:29] Speaker 3: mind there are theories not opposing theories, but complementing theories
[1:09:35] Speaker 3: on the timeline. So it starts with the ancient astronaut theories.
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: These beings came down. I called this, you know, this
[1:09:42] Speaker 3: is the This is the first This is the first
[1:09:44] Speaker 3: stage of of of of of basically the interaction uh
[1:09:52] Speaker 3: in that phase. This is where this is Genesis six.
[1:09:55] Speaker 3: This is the book of Enoch. These are the gods
[1:09:57] Speaker 3: coming down, bestowing knowledge, the serpent sharing knowledge here otherwhere everywhere,
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: and they interacted with us. And this is the rise
[1:10:08] Speaker 3: of a hybrid culture of gods living with men. Also
[1:10:12] Speaker 3: happened in Egypt, also happened in Mesopotamia, also happen in
[1:10:15] Speaker 3: other places. Also happened in India, into intermixing, also inter breathing,
[1:10:23] Speaker 3: but also just you know, revering and kind of being
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: like a heerarical about it. This phase. Then there is
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: a fallout in this phase and before the fallout, excuse me,
[1:10:38] Speaker 3: in some places, I think ancient civilization just kind of
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: took off from the knowledge given to them by the gods.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: So I think many of the things that we see
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: around the world with the monuments and the you know,
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: the the pyramids all over and places like Puma Punku
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: in in South America which are like Bolivia, mind blowing,
[1:10:56] Speaker 3: the h blocks, these are things that are like wow.
[1:10:59] Speaker 3: It it was an industrial building on a massive scale
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: in places that are super remote, you know, Atlantists and everything.
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: These are possibly independent civilizations which got the knowledge from
[1:11:11] Speaker 3: the gods or were maybe slightly intermixed, I don't know.
[1:11:15] Speaker 3: Then there is a fallout. So the major entity in
[1:11:20] Speaker 3: this whole mix decided for the reasons described in Genesis
[1:11:25] Speaker 3: and in other books as basically the interbreeding didn't work.
[1:11:29] Speaker 3: We need a reset, a hard reset, a painful reset,
[1:11:34] Speaker 3: mass extermination. Think about it also from a moral perspective.
[1:11:38] Speaker 3: Our god is the one that exterminated us and restarted us,
[1:11:43] Speaker 3: exterminated the entire world with this cataclysm which could have
[1:11:47] Speaker 3: which happened naturally as we see on Earth right like
[1:11:52] Speaker 3: the melting of the ice caps and everything, probably from
[1:11:55] Speaker 3: some type of projection hitting the earth and upheaval coming
[1:11:59] Speaker 3: from me volcanoes and otherwise. In the Book of Genesis,
[1:12:04] Speaker 3: it sets from below and above, so it was like
[1:12:06] Speaker 3: cataclysm from you know, an asteroid possibly, but also from
[1:12:09] Speaker 3: the ground becoming violent. This creates kind of the third
[1:12:17] Speaker 3: stage of the categorism. We are reset as human beings,
[1:12:22] Speaker 3: survivors reclaim some of the connection. So I think, you
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: know the So this is why Jehovah in the Book
[1:12:29] Speaker 3: of Genesis. I think it's a small story that one
[1:12:32] Speaker 3: of the gods decided to continue the relationship with the
[1:12:36] Speaker 3: people that he connected to on the ground and continue
[1:12:39] Speaker 3: to usher them into like greater things that he wanted
[1:12:42] Speaker 3: for them, specifically Jehovah the people of Israel, but other
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: gods in other places did some things similar. And I
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: think as we progressed, the last time God or the
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: God of Genesis showed his face or nearly was as
[1:12:57] Speaker 3: close to a man as possible was Moses. Moses and
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: the Mount Sinai and before entering into the land of Israel.
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: Moses is the one is the last of the forefathers
[1:13:09] Speaker 3: that has the physical interaction not only with God but
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: also the glory of God. This is interesting, by the
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: way the word glory is again another mistranslation, and Hebrew
[1:13:19] Speaker 3: it'svade deloheim. It's also glory, but is also a mass.
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: And it's really interesting that God always meets Moses and
[1:13:27] Speaker 3: with him there is something that obstructs Moses's path. So
[1:13:31] Speaker 3: there's an instance in Exodus where Moses wants to go
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: into the tent, but he's blocked by the glory, but
[1:13:37] Speaker 3: when you read it in Hebrew, is blocked by something physical.
[1:13:39] Speaker 3: So this is the last time God was interacting with us,
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: at least the God of Genesis. And then I think
[1:13:47] Speaker 3: they took the kind of left and I think the
[1:13:51] Speaker 3: interactions that we are experiencing today is just it's almost
[1:13:55] Speaker 3: in the same way as if we ran this experiment
[1:13:57] Speaker 3: somewhere else in one of our golden rule was, you know,
[1:14:02] Speaker 3: let them be. But you know, an interact, you know
[1:14:06] Speaker 3: ad hoc. In ancient times you really needed this like
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: more visceral and in repetitive interaction because they had nothing
[1:14:13] Speaker 3: and you really had to like babysit them. You had
[1:14:16] Speaker 3: to babysit civilization. So they were very present, they had camps,
[1:14:19] Speaker 3: they helped, they created, but as we advanced, they kind
[1:14:24] Speaker 3: of took a step back, and I think, now, hey,
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: by the way you're saying they left, do we know
[1:14:29] Speaker 3: that they're not everywhere and we see them every once
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: in a while. As as the you know, Commander David
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: David Graver and the guy from the tic TAC event.
[1:14:45] Speaker 3: One of the things that they're saying, you know, all
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: the Pentagon release of the files of you know, them
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: chasing the tic Tac and everything. One of the interesting
[1:14:54] Speaker 3: things about the story is not the chase. It's the
[1:14:56] Speaker 3: fact that this chase started to happen because the guys
[1:15:00] Speaker 3: were upgrading their radar technology and all of a sudden,
[1:15:04] Speaker 3: we're able to pick up things that previously they were
[1:15:06] Speaker 3: not able to pick up. Yeah. Right, and then during
[1:15:10] Speaker 3: World War Two the the Foo fighters I think they
[1:15:13] Speaker 3: call them, but they're right. So these things have been
[1:15:16] Speaker 3: around and now we're finding the buga buga spheres. I
[1:15:18] Speaker 3: don't know, real, not real, but like, figure it out
[1:15:21] Speaker 3: already and tell me what the truth is. I think
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: I think that they're here in we are in a
[1:15:29] Speaker 3: different phase. They're in a different phase and that's why,
[1:15:31] Speaker 3: and this is this will be a great thing to
[1:15:33] Speaker 3: close with. Let's go back to disclosure. I think what's
[1:15:37] Speaker 3: going to happen in disclosure are two things. First of all,
[1:15:40] Speaker 3: the physical evidence here we have a craft, biologics, out
[1:15:43] Speaker 3: of this world. We are not alone. Second, and this
[1:15:48] Speaker 3: is I think this is what they're afraid of. That
[1:15:50] Speaker 3: will you know? That will uh, that will undermine the
[1:15:54] Speaker 3: fabric of society to an extent that we have to
[1:15:56] Speaker 3: be careful and not disclosed. And I think that's b s.
[1:15:59] Speaker 3: By the way, I think people are grown up and
[1:16:02] Speaker 3: they can handle it. I think that they will tell
[1:16:05] Speaker 3: us that the story of Genesis, also as told in
[1:16:07] Speaker 3: my book, is the story of an extraterrestrial entity interacting
[1:16:13] Speaker 3: with the tribes at the time and in Mesopotamia and
[1:16:17] Speaker 3: in meso America and all over the world, and and
[1:16:20] Speaker 3: and this is why and and and basically the disclosure
[1:16:27] Speaker 3: is Genesis, our book that we believed is of an
[1:16:31] Speaker 3: omni president, omni knowing one shapeless, formless God, is actually
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: the story of advanced, ancient out of this earth civilization that,
[1:16:45] Speaker 3: by the way, bestowed knowledge on us. I'm not talking
[1:16:47] Speaker 3: about Jehovah, but the gods in general gave us morals
[1:16:50] Speaker 3: which are very solid and last until today. You know,
[1:16:53] Speaker 3: we the ten commandments are still very i would say
[1:16:56] Speaker 3: critical in Western thinking as far as what to do
[1:17:00] Speaker 3: not to do, the structure of who we are and
[1:17:02] Speaker 3: how we treat you know, the week and the Saturday
[1:17:05] Speaker 3: and the weekend, and many other morals of father and
[1:17:08] Speaker 3: son and wife and husband come from there. So it's
[1:17:12] Speaker 3: an important book. But it's also the book of disclosure,
[1:17:15] Speaker 3: and it doesn't belong just in the religion religious shelf.
[1:17:19] Speaker 3: That's my cry out, you know, we as as I
[1:17:22] Speaker 3: would say, non theologian. I can read the book, and
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: I have the permission to read the book without a
[1:17:29] Speaker 3: religious explanation. The book does not belong to them. Excuse me,
[1:17:33] Speaker 3: people wrote the book. I can read the book. Actually,
[1:17:36] Speaker 3: another cry out in my in my book is the
[1:17:39] Speaker 3: fact that if you believe in God, and if you
[1:17:42] Speaker 3: want to study God, don't read the scriptures. Study physics,
[1:17:46] Speaker 3: study mathematics, study biology. Because God created the world. So
[1:17:52] Speaker 3: his language is not the language of man and abcd
[1:17:56] Speaker 3: or alapahbet gimil in Hebrew, that's not his language. Which
[1:18:00] Speaker 3: his language is the world. And he wrote in biology
[1:18:03] Speaker 3: and chemistry, physics, and the more we discover in going
[1:18:06] Speaker 3: back to the beginning, I told you that we are
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: now trying to fathom what we are seeing in a
[1:18:12] Speaker 3: in a single human cell, as far as the fabrication
[1:18:15] Speaker 3: of some type of you know, the factory that exists
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: in this, we are actually witnessing some type of architect
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: who actually created this. And this is what we need
[1:18:22] Speaker 3: to study to understand. I don't claim to understand. My
[1:18:25] Speaker 3: book doesn't explain it, but it's it's really calling out
[1:18:29] Speaker 3: to say that religion and science have always been kept separate,
[1:18:32] Speaker 3: but they shouldn't. If you if you if not religious
[1:18:35] Speaker 3: in the Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist sense, if you're religious
[1:18:39] Speaker 3: in the sense of you think there is a creator,
[1:18:42] Speaker 3: that there is an energy, that there's positive energy, there's
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: good karma, badcarmer. If you think that is a system
[1:18:48] Speaker 3: of rules that somebody created, the language of it is
[1:18:51] Speaker 3: in science. And this is the more we will discover it,
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: science will become like religion. And I think that's the
[1:18:58] Speaker 3: that's the optimistic faith of humanity is that type of thinking.
[1:19:02] Speaker 3: It's not to separate, but to to combine. And it's
[1:19:05] Speaker 3: not my genesis, it's a global genesis.
[1:19:08] Speaker 1: It's so interesting. Gil, thank you so much for this.
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: Before I let you go, remind the audience the best
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: way that they can pick up your book.
[1:19:16] Speaker 3: So just simple search on Amazon Alien versus. You can
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[1:19:43] Speaker 1: Excellent, Thank you so much and until next time for everyone,
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: have a wonderful evening. We will talk again tomorrow.
[1:19:50] Speaker 3: See y'all.
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