# FKN Classics Double Feature! David Icke - Transhumanism | Michael Wann - Ruling Class Rituals

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 24 Jul 2026, 2 h 22 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes.
[0:07] Speaker 1: Today's guest needs a little introduction. I want to welcome
[0:10] Speaker 1: back David Ike. He is author of over twenty books numerous DVDs.
[0:14] Speaker 1: He's a researcher and has lectured in over twenty countries
[0:18] Speaker 1: around the world, speaking up for up to ten hours
[0:21] Speaker 1: to audiences.
[0:22] Speaker 2: David, welcome back. How are you doing.
[0:25] Speaker 3: I'm good, mate. Actually it's it's it's more than twenty now,
[0:28] Speaker 3: I said, I've been around a long time, you know,
[0:30] Speaker 3: I'm old, right.
[0:31] Speaker 2: Yeah. I figured that might have been a little different.
[0:35] Speaker 3: Loads of different countries, some of them translated. I remember.
[0:40] Speaker 3: I remember once, just very quickly, I was speaking in
[0:44] Speaker 3: Italy and I thought that what they would have was
[0:51] Speaker 3: earphones for people for the translation. So I walk out
[0:55] Speaker 3: on the stage I'm about to do ten hours, and
[0:58] Speaker 3: I realized they weren't doing it. What they were doing
[1:01] Speaker 3: was having the translators speak over the theater in Italian
[1:11] Speaker 3: while I'm speaking in English. So as I got to
[1:15] Speaker 3: the end of a sentence in English, I was hearing
[1:20] Speaker 3: it back in Italian at the start of the sentence.
[1:23] Speaker 3: And this went on for ten hours. So I will
[1:26] Speaker 3: never forget that day in my life.
[1:29] Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Yeah, I bet you have some amazing
[1:33] Speaker 1: stories when it comes to stuff like that. Yeah, Now,
[1:37] Speaker 1: welcome back. Thank you so much again for coming back
[1:40] Speaker 1: on the show. It's been a couple of years since
[1:43] Speaker 1: we last spoke, and so much has happened. Of course,
[1:47] Speaker 1: in the beginning of twenty twenty, we were living in
[1:50] Speaker 1: a completely different world. By March and April things started
[1:55] Speaker 1: to take a completely dramatic turn, with agenda after a
[1:58] Speaker 1: gender rolling out alongside this pandemic. Now it's a year
[2:04] Speaker 1: later and we're living in this strange new reality where
[2:08] Speaker 1: you can get yelled at and shamed for leaving.
[2:10] Speaker 2: Your house without a mask.
[2:12] Speaker 1: You're restricted from participating in certain aspects of daily life
[2:16] Speaker 1: if you're not getting these vaccine and I'm sure soon
[2:22] Speaker 1: much worse, travel restrictions and of course distribution of these
[2:28] Speaker 1: vaccine passports and an emerging social credit system, it seems.
[2:33] Speaker 1: And that's just a tiny piece of what we're seeing
[2:36] Speaker 1: rolling out right now. I'd like to know, is this
[2:39] Speaker 1: how you expected things to be progressing at this time
[2:44] Speaker 1: according to all these agendas that are at play.
[2:48] Speaker 3: Well, yes, because you know what's happened since the turn
[2:53] Speaker 3: of twenty twenty, has been prepared for for decades and
[2:58] Speaker 3: decades and dec I'm not kidding. I mean, you know,
[3:04] Speaker 3: the people behind this, if I can call them, that
[3:07] Speaker 3: are operating on a completely different level of knowledge, in
[3:13] Speaker 3: a completely different timeline really in the sense of in
[3:18] Speaker 3: the world of the population people you know, see things
[3:22] Speaker 3: a certain amount into the future, not very far. But
[3:26] Speaker 3: this global cultures I call it, this global network of
[3:30] Speaker 3: secret society is semi secret groups and satanic groups which
[3:34] Speaker 3: has an interlocking leadership. They are working to a very
[3:40] Speaker 3: different timeline with a very long projected future. So you've
[3:47] Speaker 3: got the population going about their business. And the thing
[3:52] Speaker 3: about population from the cult's point of view, they have
[3:55] Speaker 3: to be denied knowledge. They have to be denied knowledge
[3:58] Speaker 3: about the nature of reality, so they don't understand how
[4:02] Speaker 3: reality works, and therefore they're at the mercy of something
[4:05] Speaker 3: they don't understand. And the other thing, of course, is
[4:09] Speaker 3: that they mustn't be allowed to know what the agenda
[4:13] Speaker 3: for them is, what this where this is leading. So
[4:17] Speaker 3: what you've got is a timeline in the world of
[4:22] Speaker 3: the population that you know thinks about the middle of
[4:25] Speaker 3: next week or holiday next year, where they used to.
[4:28] Speaker 3: And then you've got this other world, which is this
[4:32] Speaker 3: network of secret societies which at it's in a core
[4:34] Speaker 3: because it's all massively compartmentalized, only the relative few know
[4:41] Speaker 3: the whole picture. They are planning and have been planning
[4:45] Speaker 3: decades and decades and decades ahead. And because you've got
[4:51] Speaker 3: this difference between knowledge and therefore possibility, not these technological
[4:59] Speaker 3: possibles you have had in this cult reality, the knowledge
[5:08] Speaker 3: of technology that was going to unfold in the future.
[5:15] Speaker 3: And so when you then look at what older Suxley
[5:19] Speaker 3: wrote in Brave New World in nineteen thirty two that
[5:23] Speaker 3: was published, and then you see we're all well wrote
[5:26] Speaker 3: in nineteen forty eight. And people I've quoted in my
[5:28] Speaker 3: books and the Way back insiders who were predicting where
[5:33] Speaker 3: the world was going, they were able to not just
[5:40] Speaker 3: describe the world that we're now in, but they were
[5:44] Speaker 3: able to describe, not least Huxley, the kind of technology
[5:49] Speaker 3: and chemical manipulation that we're now seeing. Also, And if
[5:58] Speaker 3: you can tap into this other world by working your
[6:02] Speaker 3: backside off for thirty years, you can at least get
[6:08] Speaker 3: a massive amount of understanding of where the world's being
[6:14] Speaker 3: being taken so all along we have been led to
[6:21] Speaker 3: this moment, and this other world has done the leading,
[6:28] Speaker 3: and up to the turn of twenty twenty, it's basically
[6:34] Speaker 3: kept it under the radar because it you know, don't
[6:39] Speaker 3: go to early, don't reveal your hand to early. So
[6:44] Speaker 3: they've been preparing and preparing on so many levels we
[6:47] Speaker 3: can talk about up to the start of twenty twenty.
[6:50] Speaker 3: And then they went for it. And you know, I've
[6:55] Speaker 3: used this analogy before of you know, you're in the
[6:59] Speaker 3: pack in a say, a three thousand meter race, five
[7:02] Speaker 3: thousand meter race, and then you come to the final
[7:06] Speaker 3: lap or the back straight, and you go for it.
[7:11] Speaker 3: You go for the line. And when you go for
[7:13] Speaker 3: the line, you've got to get there because if people
[7:16] Speaker 3: catch you up, they're probably going to go past you
[7:18] Speaker 3: and you're not going to win the race. And it's
[7:20] Speaker 3: a similar situation that we're facing here. Once they stepped
[7:25] Speaker 3: into the room, once they revealed their hand, more and
[7:28] Speaker 3: more through twenty twenty, but they had to move quickly,
[7:33] Speaker 3: and it's a race of locking everything down and controlling everything,
[7:40] Speaker 3: not least technologically, before enough people have woken up and
[7:47] Speaker 3: seen what the hell's going on now? We are making
[7:50] Speaker 3: progress in that regard, nothing like as fast as I'd
[7:52] Speaker 3: like to see it, but we are making progress in
[7:55] Speaker 3: that way. And that's why you know, we're working hours
[8:00] Speaker 3: we can to try to alert people to how these
[8:03] Speaker 3: dots connect and what is actually going on. And it's
[8:05] Speaker 3: not random, and it's all been planned a very long time.
[8:09] Speaker 3: And you know, you you have Huxley talking about the
[8:17] Speaker 3: the creation of a new human that doesn't procreate. Well,
[8:23] Speaker 3: that's what we're that's what we're going into. He knew
[8:25] Speaker 3: about that all that, all those all those decades ago,
[8:29] Speaker 3: because it's long planned. And what happens is you've got
[8:33] Speaker 3: this level of knowledge here which is operating in the
[8:36] Speaker 3: underground basis and the secret projects that's got technology and
[8:41] Speaker 3: has had technology way back that today as it plays
[8:46] Speaker 3: out is considered cutting edge, but they knew about it
[8:50] Speaker 3: way back because they've been preparing for this time technologically.
[8:55] Speaker 3: And so when something is you know, plays out in
[9:00] Speaker 3: the public arena, like an AI technological smart technology that's
[9:07] Speaker 3: about surveillance, about control, about getting nicro trips in the
[9:12] Speaker 3: body and stuff, yeah it comes out, oh this is
[9:15] Speaker 3: the latest thing, but it wasn't the latest thing for
[9:17] Speaker 3: the cult, because the cult's had it for a very,
[9:19] Speaker 3: very long time. That's how you know, people have known
[9:23] Speaker 3: about the technology that was coming way before it actually
[9:27] Speaker 3: it actually came out. And the preparation has even got
[9:31] Speaker 3: into the detail of preparing psychologically the people in authority
[9:38] Speaker 3: and the people in law enforcement. You know, I've been
[9:43] Speaker 3: tracking this now for again decades where the dynamic between
[9:48] Speaker 3: law enforcement and officialdom, authority and the public has been
[9:52] Speaker 3: demonstrably changing from one of service and serving the public
[9:59] Speaker 3: to one of seeing the public as the enemy and
[10:02] Speaker 3: something to be subdued, something to be controlled. And there
[10:09] Speaker 3: have been organizations There's one that started out in Britain
[10:14] Speaker 3: called Common Purpose which is now global, which do training
[10:20] Speaker 3: courses for people in authority, and they use techniques like
[10:24] Speaker 3: neuro linguistic programming and other techniques to prepare people they
[10:32] Speaker 3: call them Common Purpose Graduates, to prepare them psychologically for
[10:37] Speaker 3: this time. And it's from the cold point of view
[10:41] Speaker 3: it's played out brilliantly because the attitude of authority and
[10:47] Speaker 3: law enforcement, great chunks of it anyway, to the public
[10:50] Speaker 3: since this started in twenty twenty has been absolutely disgraceful.
[10:55] Speaker 3: The public are now the enemy. They're there to be subdued.
[10:58] Speaker 3: They're there to be controlled, to be imposed upon. So
[11:02] Speaker 3: all these different elements have been prepared for a long
[11:06] Speaker 3: time because just I'll finish with this answer here that
[11:13] Speaker 3: this cult doesn't like surprises. It doesn't like states of flux.
[11:19] Speaker 3: It's very uneasy with states of flux where it could
[11:22] Speaker 3: go either way. If it was involved in a football match,
[11:27] Speaker 3: it would want to control both sides and the referee
[11:30] Speaker 3: so it knew the score before the game started. That's
[11:32] Speaker 3: what I'm talking about in terms of not wanting surprises.
[11:35] Speaker 3: That's why it uses mind control so much. It uses
[11:39] Speaker 3: so many mind controlled people to do its bidding because
[11:44] Speaker 3: then they're controllable and there's no surprises with a mind
[11:47] Speaker 3: control person who's operating according to program. And so what
[11:54] Speaker 3: we need to do is give them some bloody surprises.
[11:56] Speaker 3: And I think they've had a few already, but they
[11:58] Speaker 3: need a lot more.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.
[12:01] Speaker 1: And it seems like they're moving too fast for people,
[12:05] Speaker 1: and people are just waking up and seeing the mistakes
[12:08] Speaker 1: that are being made, because it seems it appears they're
[12:11] Speaker 1: trying to rush through this and implement these agendas in
[12:14] Speaker 1: such a speedy way that people are catching on and saying, well, look,
[12:18] Speaker 1: there's something going on here. Do you think that's what's
[12:20] Speaker 1: a part of what's happening, That's.
[12:22] Speaker 3: Part of what's happening. Yes, And you know, we mustn't
[12:26] Speaker 3: give these people too much credit for being too bright,
[12:31] Speaker 3: you know, they to understand the psychology of the cult
[12:38] Speaker 3: is to understand so much about what's going on. See,
[12:41] Speaker 3: these people are not omnipotent and all powerful. That's what
[12:46] Speaker 3: they try to convince us they are, so we'll think, oh,
[12:51] Speaker 3: there's no point you know what they say resistance is
[12:55] Speaker 3: futile because they want us to believe that, so that
[12:59] Speaker 3: we're just, oh, there's nothing you can do. They're all
[13:01] Speaker 3: two power. They're not. They're pathetic. And what they've done
[13:07] Speaker 3: systematically because they are so limited, they've had to put
[13:14] Speaker 3: humanity in a smaller perceptual box than they're it. And
[13:19] Speaker 3: it's that it's summed up by in the Kingdom of
[13:22] Speaker 3: the Blind, the one eyed man is king. They are
[13:24] Speaker 3: the one eyed man, and they've had to make humans
[13:28] Speaker 3: blind for that to control them. And they're terrified of
[13:33] Speaker 3: humanity waking up not just to this agenda, but to
[13:38] Speaker 3: the true power that we have to create our own
[13:43] Speaker 3: reality and to mold our own reality instead of life
[13:49] Speaker 3: living us, which is what happens when the cult's in charge.
[13:54] Speaker 3: We live life by taking control of our lives and
[13:58] Speaker 3: understanding that we have the power to do that. They
[14:01] Speaker 3: have to convince the target population that they have no
[14:05] Speaker 3: power and there's nothing they can do, so they have
[14:08] Speaker 3: to do as they're told and look to their betters
[14:11] Speaker 3: who are more intelligent than they are. That's the that's
[14:14] Speaker 3: the dynamic they want us to believe in. And it
[14:17] Speaker 3: is a fast it's a fraud. It's not like that
[14:21] Speaker 3: at all. And the the the fear that this cult
[14:28] Speaker 3: constantly lives with is one of exposure and one of
[14:34] Speaker 3: humanity awakening, waking, awakening to its true power and and
[14:40] Speaker 3: and through that awakening to actually what the game is.
[14:43] Speaker 3: And you know, they're showing us how little power they
[14:47] Speaker 3: have all the time with their censorship. You know, I'm
[14:52] Speaker 3: censored from all these major platforms. I've been for a
[14:55] Speaker 3: long time now. And I'm one guy sitting in this
[15:01] Speaker 3: uh this flat, little flat in the yard of white
[15:04] Speaker 3: in England, and they're so terrified to me that they
[15:08] Speaker 3: have to censor me. Now, if they were all powerful
[15:11] Speaker 3: They wouldn't care about me. They wouldn't care what I said,
[15:14] Speaker 3: because they're all powerful. They wouldn't care about some kid
[15:18] Speaker 3: in his back bedroom is putting out things that to
[15:22] Speaker 3: do with you know, the way the world's manipulated. They
[15:24] Speaker 3: won't be frightened at him or her. No, but they are.
[15:29] Speaker 3: And the more they censor, and as we're seeing now,
[15:34] Speaker 3: their COVID narrative is so ridiculous, it's so tenuous, it's
[15:43] Speaker 3: so unsupportable by the evidence that they're having to now
[15:48] Speaker 3: to defend it so only way they can. They can't
[15:50] Speaker 3: do it with evidence. They're now censoring and deleting people
[15:56] Speaker 3: who for the mildest, mildest criticism. They put an organization
[16:02] Speaker 3: in Britain Facebook. They suspended them for using an interview
[16:10] Speaker 3: with a woman who was describing what happened to her
[16:13] Speaker 3: husband when he had this fake vaccine put him in
[16:18] Speaker 3: a neurological ward and she was describing what happened. Suspension
[16:23] Speaker 3: because the narrative, the COVID narrative, is so ridiculous. They
[16:30] Speaker 3: know it's ridiculous that they're they're terrified of it being exposed,
[16:36] Speaker 3: and so their censorship gets more and more childlike and ludicrous.
[16:39] Speaker 3: They're telling us they have no power. And when the
[16:44] Speaker 3: penny drops and we realize where the power is, then
[16:47] Speaker 3: this game is over. I mean, you know how many
[16:50] Speaker 3: people we have, We must be getting on towards now
[16:52] Speaker 3: eight billion people, and the number of people that are
[16:56] Speaker 3: behind this in full knowledge You're probably get in a
[16:59] Speaker 3: single room and you know the answers staring is in
[17:04] Speaker 3: the face. And the thing is they know it is
[17:07] Speaker 3: they know that any moment their game could be over.
[17:12] Speaker 3: And and they're running around like at that, you know,
[17:15] Speaker 3: one of these amusement games, trying to knock people on
[17:19] Speaker 3: the head with a hammer when they when they stick
[17:21] Speaker 3: their heads up, trying to trying to stop the public
[17:26] Speaker 3: waking up. But what I'm seeing now, I don't know
[17:29] Speaker 3: about you, is we've reached a stage where people in
[17:33] Speaker 3: the system are now starting to get it. And you know,
[17:41] Speaker 3: people will use every excuse and every explanation they can
[17:49] Speaker 3: short of actually it's a freaking conspiracy, and it's conspiracy
[17:54] Speaker 3: to do horrible things to the human race. They don't
[17:57] Speaker 3: want to go there, obviously, so they give they give
[18:00] Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubts all this. Oh no, they're
[18:03] Speaker 3: just they're just idiots. They're doing this because they're idiots,
[18:05] Speaker 3: and they're doing this because they're incompetent, and they're doing
[18:07] Speaker 3: that because they want to make money. But after over
[18:11] Speaker 3: a year of this, more and more of them are saying,
[18:15] Speaker 3: I can't explain it away like that now. As what
[18:19] Speaker 3: one guy said, Michael yedon a form of Feiser executive
[18:24] Speaker 3: and chief scientific Advisor, I cannot think of a benevolent
[18:29] Speaker 3: reason why they are rolling out these vaccines. And once
[18:35] Speaker 3: you cross that point, when there is no other explanation
[18:38] Speaker 3: except it's a conspiracy, that's when the penny drops and
[18:42] Speaker 3: you start to see it, and you know there are
[18:44] Speaker 3: more and more people in the system that are getting
[18:46] Speaker 3: it because they can't explain it away any longer in
[18:50] Speaker 3: any other way except this was all planned, which of
[18:54] Speaker 3: course some of us have known about for a long.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Time, right Yeah, and you were you were talking about
[18:59] Speaker 1: this censorship and the cancel culture. It's such a powerful
[19:03] Speaker 1: weapon being used by the media and social media right now.
[19:06] Speaker 1: It's keeping a majority of the people in the dark.
[19:09] Speaker 1: We're only seeing one side of the story. I mean,
[19:12] Speaker 1: how far do you think this can go. We're actually
[19:14] Speaker 1: a racing a portion of our history. Future generations won't
[19:18] Speaker 1: know what happened. I mean, it's not much different than now.
[19:21] Speaker 1: We don't really know much about our past because of
[19:23] Speaker 1: our history books have been altered, and you know, our
[19:26] Speaker 1: education system is terrible. But these these people have been
[19:30] Speaker 1: doing an amazing job demonizing freethinking individuals. If you question
[19:34] Speaker 1: a narrative, you're either crazy or a conspiracy theorist, or
[19:37] Speaker 1: now a racist or even QAnon supporter, which equals crazy.
[19:42] Speaker 1: And I think this whole QAnon thing was an intentional
[19:45] Speaker 1: op to kind of elicit this type of response. What
[19:48] Speaker 1: do you think about that?
[19:50] Speaker 3: One? I knew QAnon was a scam because I heard
[19:57] Speaker 3: it before. I heard it maybe three or four times
[19:59] Speaker 3: before or over the last thirty years, where the same narrative,
[20:03] Speaker 3: the same story, the same plan was played out, and
[20:09] Speaker 3: so the others or they were going to arrest the
[20:13] Speaker 3: bad guys. Well those bad guys were never arrested, but
[20:19] Speaker 3: they played it out again. And as more and more
[20:21] Speaker 3: people wake up, of course and start to question everything
[20:26] Speaker 3: that they can, they can play things out that they've
[20:30] Speaker 3: used before because the people just waking up won't know
[20:32] Speaker 3: they've played played them out before. So QAnon was a
[20:36] Speaker 3: trap to a say to people. And this is a
[20:41] Speaker 3: constant theme with these these different versions of the same thing.
[20:46] Speaker 3: You don't have to do anything for us. The plan,
[20:49] Speaker 3: well we actually do. And the other thing was that
[20:54] Speaker 3: was to create a situation in which people were demonized.
[20:59] Speaker 3: Who were They're what I call pushbackers, that they were demonized.
[21:03] Speaker 3: And you know, I do think that the Trump era
[21:07] Speaker 3: was a trap. The question I have is how much
[21:11] Speaker 3: did Trump know? How much didn't he know? But I
[21:14] Speaker 3: think it was definitely a trap. You know when you
[21:18] Speaker 3: look at Trump and he was facing the best part
[21:24] Speaker 3: of twenty people before and after the primaries to run
[21:29] Speaker 3: for the presidential nomination in the Republican Party, and we
[21:35] Speaker 3: were told the Republican Party, you know, didn't like Trump
[21:38] Speaker 3: and didn't want Trump. Well, we saw with Hillary Clinton
[21:43] Speaker 3: and the wiki leak's emails, etc. That were leaked that
[21:49] Speaker 3: the Democratic Party had no problems stitching up Bernie Sanders
[21:53] Speaker 3: internally to make sure that Clinton got the nomination. And
[21:59] Speaker 3: if the republic Can Party hierarchy had wanted to stop
[22:02] Speaker 3: Trump getting the nomination, then he wouldn't have got it.
[22:05] Speaker 3: But he got it. And not only that he won
[22:09] Speaker 3: the he won the election and the whole thing goes
[22:18] Speaker 3: back to a guy called Saul O Lynsky. I mean,
[22:23] Speaker 3: what I'm saying is the way this has played out.
[22:25] Speaker 3: Saul Olinsky. If people haven't come across him, he was
[22:28] Speaker 3: a so called community leader in Chicago. He was a Marxist,
[22:34] Speaker 3: and he wrote a book called Rules for Radicals about
[22:39] Speaker 3: how you transform a society into a Marxist society. And
[22:45] Speaker 3: one of his key golden rules was that you don't
[22:50] Speaker 3: focus your attention on faithless corporations or bureaucracies. Pick if
[22:56] Speaker 3: you want to divide a society, you pick one individual
[23:01] Speaker 3: and you focus all your blame and all your hatred
[23:04] Speaker 3: on him or her. And so when Trump came to power,
[23:09] Speaker 3: I mean for the next four years, virtually every news story,
[23:15] Speaker 3: everything that went wrong, and every criticism was focused at
[23:21] Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And what they were trying to do and
[23:26] Speaker 3: succeeded in, was divide America. And so you've got this
[23:34] Speaker 3: mentality which has become known as woke, which is one
[23:40] Speaker 3: hundred percent the creation of this cult. That's why the cult.
[23:44] Speaker 3: Billionaires and corporations fund it to the tune of extraordinary
[23:48] Speaker 3: amounts of money, things like BLM. Part of that the
[23:50] Speaker 3: whole woke culture is its call, and it's been programmed
[23:56] Speaker 3: into the to the young, through the schools and the
[24:00] Speaker 3: university is more and more extreme as we have gone
[24:05] Speaker 3: through the years. And so they they had that mentality,
[24:11] Speaker 3: and on the other side they wanted to play off
[24:15] Speaker 3: against them those that actually didn't want the woke agenda,
[24:20] Speaker 3: which is the cult agender. They didn't want to destroy
[24:24] Speaker 3: the economy for a hoax of human cause climate change.
[24:28] Speaker 3: They didn't want to have censorship and the cancel culture.
[24:34] Speaker 3: They didn't want all the things that the wok agenda
[24:37] Speaker 3: is about. And so suddenly you've you've created a big
[24:42] Speaker 3: division between two distinct demands of bought states of perception,
[24:48] Speaker 3: the woke and the pushbackers who were pushing back on
[24:51] Speaker 3: the woke. They're another thing they don't want is open borders,
[24:55] Speaker 3: which is a woke agenda. As we've seen since Biden
[24:58] Speaker 3: came in and well through the Trump years, this division
[25:03] Speaker 3: was created. And the foundation of it, if you if
[25:07] Speaker 3: you look at it was hatred of Truck Trump by
[25:09] Speaker 3: the wokers. You had them hating Trump and everything he did.
[25:15] Speaker 3: They hold hatred at him. And on the other side,
[25:18] Speaker 3: you had a lot of other people who near worship Trump.
[25:22] Speaker 3: You could see the division appearing in American society through
[25:26] Speaker 3: the four years, and and so they wanted to eventually
[25:32] Speaker 3: bring in a fully woke administration that was going to
[25:38] Speaker 3: push through all the woke agenda, which is the cult
[25:41] Speaker 3: a gender. And that's what we had when when Biden
[25:47] Speaker 3: came in and on the on the cusp of that,
[25:50] Speaker 3: just as he was coming in, they they they wanted
[25:53] Speaker 3: to put the pushbackers completely on the back foot, to
[25:59] Speaker 3: demons them UH and to to marginalize them in terms
[26:06] Speaker 3: of the public the public perception. And so you had
[26:11] Speaker 3: qanons appear earlier in the Trump administration. And this built
[26:19] Speaker 3: up and built up and built up until until January
[26:21] Speaker 3: the sixth. And on January the sixth, you had this
[26:24] Speaker 3: big crowd in Washington. You had this nonsense from Q
[26:29] Speaker 3: and on that Trump was going to keep the presidency
[26:32] Speaker 3: and Biden was going to be arresting all these other people.
[26:35] Speaker 3: Absolutely nonsense. And the vast majority of the crowd were
[26:42] Speaker 3: there to protest about and I absolutely agree with them
[26:46] Speaker 3: about a stolen election. But there was a sting waiting,
[26:55] Speaker 3: and you had people from uh UH Antifa, people from
[27:01] Speaker 3: Black Lives matter, people from the woke extreme who were
[27:06] Speaker 3: dressed as Trump supporters and were pushing the whole, you know,
[27:11] Speaker 3: head for the Capitol Building. And then there were genuine
[27:14] Speaker 3: Trump supporters that got caught up in that and excitement
[27:18] Speaker 3: and fell for it. And what gave it away was
[27:23] Speaker 3: the complete lack of law enforcement defense of the Capitol Building.
[27:29] Speaker 3: It was like, you know, there you go, there, you
[27:31] Speaker 3: go go. It was unbelievable. When you you knew that
[27:35] Speaker 3: such a crowd was going to be there, then any
[27:39] Speaker 3: any enforcement, any government would say, okay, well we're going
[27:44] Speaker 3: to make sure they don't get in the Capitol Building.
[27:46] Speaker 3: But they didn't make those preparations at all because they
[27:49] Speaker 3: wanted them in there, and they wanted them in there
[27:53] Speaker 3: so that they had a coup, a pr coup to
[27:56] Speaker 3: demonize everybody. All the thousands, thousands of people in them
[28:01] Speaker 3: all who didn't go in the Capitol Building, they've all
[28:03] Speaker 3: got the same demonization. And it was a sting, and
[28:10] Speaker 3: you know, it's it puts it's put pushbackers on the
[28:15] Speaker 3: back foot. But we just have to, you know, brush
[28:18] Speaker 3: ourselves down and get back in the game because what
[28:22] Speaker 3: we have on our side is the truth. This whole
[28:28] Speaker 3: hoax of so called COVID nineteen is there to be
[28:33] Speaker 3: dismantled and instead of you know, defending ourselves. You know, no, no,
[28:39] Speaker 3: I'm not this. I'm not that. We'll call me what
[28:41] Speaker 3: you like. I'm going to speak my truth. I don't
[28:45] Speaker 3: care how you try to demonize me. I don't care
[28:48] Speaker 3: what you throw at me, what abuse, I don't care.
[28:53] Speaker 3: I'm not listening to it. I'm going to keep speaking
[28:56] Speaker 3: my truth. And you know, seventy four million people voted
[29:00] Speaker 3: for Trump at the last election, and most of them,
[29:03] Speaker 3: well all of them really are going to be in
[29:06] Speaker 3: some some level pushbackers against this culture gender and you know,
[29:12] Speaker 3: we need to not apologize for for what we believe
[29:17] Speaker 3: and not apologize for what we do and just get
[29:20] Speaker 3: on with it because what they want to do. And
[29:24] Speaker 3: this has been the reason for this hysteria. I mean this,
[29:30] Speaker 3: this this moron Chuck Schumer describing January sixth, which wasn't
[29:36] Speaker 3: an insurrection, it was a riot. As as as our
[29:40] Speaker 3: pearl harbor. I mean, the man's the man's an idiot,
[29:43] Speaker 3: but he's obviously an idiot that says what he's told
[29:47] Speaker 3: to say when when he's told to say it, so
[29:49] Speaker 3: you know he he prospers in life despite the fact
[29:52] Speaker 3: that he's an idiot. And what they have tried to
[29:57] Speaker 3: do with this hysteria and the the tracking down of
[30:01] Speaker 3: anyone that was in the mall and all that stuff
[30:04] Speaker 3: is to intimidate the pushback mentality so that we just
[30:10] Speaker 3: go away. Well, we ain't going away. We mustn't go away.
[30:13] Speaker 3: We must run out of them even harder because they
[30:19] Speaker 3: are trying to kid as they have the power, they don't.
[30:23] Speaker 2: Right, I agree one hundred percent.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Now, one of the most terrifying aspects at this moment
[30:29] Speaker 1: for me is, you know, the speculations and theories about
[30:34] Speaker 1: what this vaccine is, how it affects people, and that
[30:38] Speaker 1: there may be underlying malevolent intentions such as altering genetics
[30:44] Speaker 1: or DNA sterilization. A whole list of possible scenarios that
[30:49] Speaker 1: you hear about, a whole list of theories. I'd like
[30:52] Speaker 1: to know, what do you think that we're dealing with.
[30:55] Speaker 1: I have close family members that I've already received the vaccination.
[30:59] Speaker 1: Thankfully they've had no adverse reactions so far, but we
[31:02] Speaker 1: have no idea what long term effects will be.
[31:05] Speaker 2: And it was obviously rushed out and I'd like to
[31:09] Speaker 2: know what.
[31:10] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there are multiple purposes for this thing.
[31:13] Speaker 2: But what do you think.
[31:15] Speaker 3: Well, let's let's look at it from a cult point view.
[31:20] Speaker 3: It wasn't rushed out. It appeared to be rushed out. Absolutely,
[31:24] Speaker 3: it did from a public career. But I said last
[31:28] Speaker 3: I said last April that you know, when they were saying, oh,
[31:32] Speaker 3: you know, maybe they'll find a vaccine, I said, the
[31:35] Speaker 3: vaccine's already sitting there, the contents of the vaccines already
[31:38] Speaker 3: sitting there. This this virus hoax is to justify the vaccine.
[31:43] Speaker 3: It's not the virus that's the bioweapon. The virus doesn't
[31:45] Speaker 3: bloody exist. It's the vaccine that's the bio weapon justified
[31:50] Speaker 3: by the the the covid hoax. And so again, let's
[31:57] Speaker 3: look at it. It's passionate. The makers don't claim it
[32:02] Speaker 3: stops transmission of what they claim is a virus. They
[32:06] Speaker 3: don't claim that it stops you getting it what they
[32:09] Speaker 3: claim is a virus. They just say it may you know,
[32:15] Speaker 3: lessen some of the more extreme symptoms. They're already saying
[32:21] Speaker 3: that more and more. Actually, it's locked down, not the
[32:24] Speaker 3: vaccine that's pushed the cases down, and the infection alleged
[32:32] Speaker 3: infection to alleged death ratio, it's coming down all the time.
[32:39] Speaker 3: There was a figure around zero point two three percent.
[32:41] Speaker 3: There's been a study come out of Harvard recently which
[32:46] Speaker 3: put it, I think was one point five nor point
[32:52] Speaker 3: And so you're not dealing with a deadly virus. You're
[32:57] Speaker 3: you're dealing with, well, something that doesn't exists. But even
[33:00] Speaker 3: if you take their figures and their narrative, it's of
[33:05] Speaker 3: no danger whatsoever to the vast majority of people, even
[33:10] Speaker 3: by their narrative. And yet they are pressuring people in
[33:16] Speaker 3: every way, shape and form, not at least by these passports.
[33:19] Speaker 3: You won't be able to do anything if you don't
[33:20] Speaker 3: have it, to have this alleged vaccine. It's not a vaccine.
[33:26] Speaker 3: It doesn't fulfill the definition of vaccines. So why would
[33:30] Speaker 3: they do that? I mean people need to ask that.
[33:32] Speaker 3: Look at the figures, even their figures, manipulated and nonsensical
[33:37] Speaker 3: as they are, and ask yourself, why on that basis
[33:41] Speaker 3: do they want every man, woman, a child. They keep
[33:42] Speaker 3: saying this every man, woman, a child on the planet vaccinated.
[33:45] Speaker 3: Because it's not about COVID nineteen. Of course, it's not.
[33:49] Speaker 3: It's about changing the nature of the humored body. I've
[33:51] Speaker 3: been writing about this for decades now. They have a
[33:58] Speaker 3: plan unfolding to turn I'll call it human one point
[34:02] Speaker 3: oh the human form we have now into human two
[34:06] Speaker 3: point oh, which is planned to be a much more
[34:09] Speaker 3: synthetic entity than the human body we have now. And
[34:15] Speaker 3: so at the same time they are seeking to phase
[34:20] Speaker 3: out human one point oh and then phase in the
[34:26] Speaker 3: synthetic biological two point zero. And so if you look
[34:30] Speaker 3: at the various elements of this, and again I've been
[34:34] Speaker 3: tracking this for decades now, the sperm counts globally, not
[34:39] Speaker 3: least in the West, are absolutely plummeting catastrophically. There was
[34:45] Speaker 3: a there was a book that came out just a
[34:47] Speaker 3: few months ago now that that looked at all this
[34:51] Speaker 3: in detail and said, the less things change, you know,
[34:55] Speaker 3: human sperm counts are going to put to an end,
[34:58] Speaker 3: put an end to the human race, because they're simply
[35:01] Speaker 3: not going to be the ability to procreate now. Old
[35:06] Speaker 3: As Huxley in Brave New World in nineteen thirty two
[35:11] Speaker 3: described world state hatcheries where world state hatcheries where children
[35:19] Speaker 3: were not produced through procreation but through technological means and
[35:29] Speaker 3: the kind of artificial wombs that he kind of described,
[35:36] Speaker 3: they're introducing them. This technology is now being played out
[35:42] Speaker 3: and the idea is that human two point zero won't
[35:48] Speaker 3: be produced by procreation but by technological means. And so
[35:54] Speaker 3: if you're going to do that, then one point oh
[35:56] Speaker 3: has to go. And that's what they're doing with the
[35:58] Speaker 3: sperm counts, and it's what they're doing with I mean,
[36:01] Speaker 3: when I was growing up as a kid in the
[36:03] Speaker 3: nineteen fifties, even the early sixties and on, you never
[36:09] Speaker 3: heard fertility clinics. And there must have been one or
[36:14] Speaker 3: two existed, but I mean, you never heard it. Now
[36:17] Speaker 3: it's an industry all over the world. It's an industry
[36:21] Speaker 3: because people are finding it more and more difficult to
[36:25] Speaker 3: to to produce children. And Michael Yeden, this form of
[36:32] Speaker 3: visor executive and Chief Scientific Advisor, wrote to the European
[36:39] Speaker 3: Medicines Agency with another doctor, a German doctor called Wolfgang Wodarg,
[36:47] Speaker 3: demanding that they stopped the role out of these alleged
[36:51] Speaker 3: vaccines because of the number of reasons, but one of
[36:56] Speaker 3: them was the potential impact on fertility, not least through
[37:03] Speaker 3: stopping the development of the place center. Uh and and
[37:08] Speaker 3: I just finished Bok, which is in production at the moment.
[37:12] Speaker 3: It's coming out as soon as we can get it out.
[37:14] Speaker 3: And I've looked at this and all these different elements.
[37:18] Speaker 3: If you if you look at them and connect the dots,
[37:21] Speaker 3: they're all targeting the future of of human one point
[37:26] Speaker 3: h And what are these what are these these vaccines,
[37:32] Speaker 3: these m n R m R n A vaccines for
[37:34] Speaker 3: a start, or A LLEDGE vaccines. They are synthetic genetic material.
[37:40] Speaker 3: And one of the biggest advancing, expanding aspects of mainstream
[37:48] Speaker 3: science today is is synthetic biology. And you're you're you're
[37:54] Speaker 3: you're seeing like you know, all this movement towards synthetic biology,
[37:59] Speaker 3: synthetic organ synthetic blood, synthetic skin, all of it. And
[38:05] Speaker 3: this is the movement towards human two point zero. And
[38:09] Speaker 3: so these genetically manipulating vaccines are part of that. Now,
[38:17] Speaker 3: the material they're putting into people is self replicating, so
[38:21] Speaker 3: once it's in there, it starts to replicate. And the
[38:24] Speaker 3: more you put in there, the more this is going
[38:27] Speaker 3: to advance. And this is the scam to get people
[38:33] Speaker 3: to accept that and to entrap them. First of all,
[38:39] Speaker 3: that your ideal. You want mandatory vaccination, that's what you want,
[38:43] Speaker 3: but you're not sure at the moment you get away
[38:45] Speaker 3: with it, So you do you do it through the
[38:48] Speaker 3: back door. You say, well, we're going to introduce these passports,
[38:51] Speaker 3: and if you don't have these genetically manipulating vaccines, then
[38:56] Speaker 3: you can't have any kind of life, go anywhere, I
[39:00] Speaker 3: can't do anything. So you better have it. And now again,
[39:06] Speaker 3: just look at the figures, the official figures for this
[39:08] Speaker 3: so called virus and its effect. That should be a
[39:12] Speaker 3: red flag and flashing red lights in the head of
[39:15] Speaker 3: everyone in the world. And so what they're saying is
[39:21] Speaker 3: if you want to go about your normal life, you've
[39:24] Speaker 3: got to have a vaccine passport. This is what's happened.
[39:26] Speaker 3: It's been planned for years and years. They're all coming
[39:29] Speaker 3: out together. But it's like I said at the start
[39:32] Speaker 3: of our chat, it's all been planned and it's all
[39:35] Speaker 3: been sitting there. That's why all these different elements of
[39:39] Speaker 3: the vaccine passport are coming out in different countries at
[39:42] Speaker 3: the same time. And they all seem to call them green,
[39:44] Speaker 3: don't they, which connects people into this green climate change
[39:49] Speaker 3: hoax agenda, which is fundamentally involved with the COVID agenda,
[39:54] Speaker 3: which is why people like Gates and Klaus Schwab at
[39:56] Speaker 3: the World Economic Forum are pushing for changes in the
[40:01] Speaker 3: world due to climate change as much as they are
[40:04] Speaker 3: changes in the world due to so called COVID. It's
[40:06] Speaker 3: all part of the same plan. So what they're saying
[40:12] Speaker 3: to people now will be very shortly. In places like
[40:16] Speaker 3: Israel they already are is you're not going to have
[40:20] Speaker 3: a normal life unless you have the vaccines that we've
[40:22] Speaker 3: said you must have. So okay. So a lot of people,
[40:25] Speaker 3: what they're going to do, and I've done, is to say, Okay, look,
[40:29] Speaker 3: I've got to live a life, so I'll have this
[40:32] Speaker 3: one or I'll have the first two, which is where
[40:35] Speaker 3: they're up to now. But they are going to say that.
[40:41] Speaker 3: They're already indicating it that you have to have the
[40:44] Speaker 3: COVID vaccine every year. In Britain, they're already talking about
[40:51] Speaker 3: giving out booster injections a third one in September. So
[40:57] Speaker 3: what about the passport. Well, I've got me passport because
[41:00] Speaker 3: I've had me first too. Oh yes, but if you're
[41:04] Speaker 3: going to keep your passport, you've got to have the
[41:07] Speaker 3: booster and you've got to have the one every year.
[41:11] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know these variants. We've got Indian variant, now,
[41:15] Speaker 3: you know, and we've got a we've got a South
[41:18] Speaker 3: African variant, We've got an UK variant, We've got a
[41:21] Speaker 3: Brazilian variant. We've got all these variants. So you know,
[41:25] Speaker 3: I mean, as Michael Eton said in an interview recently,
[41:29] Speaker 3: these big farmer giants of evil are already developing variant vaccines.
[41:40] Speaker 3: So what's going to happen is if you're going to
[41:43] Speaker 3: keep the passport and therefore be able to do anything,
[41:48] Speaker 3: you've got to keep having these more and more compounding
[41:51] Speaker 3: numbers of fake vaccinations. And what's that doing. It's infusing
[41:57] Speaker 3: synthetic genetic material into the body. And a lot of
[42:02] Speaker 3: people are not going to be able to to deal
[42:06] Speaker 3: with that, and they're gonna it's going to kill them.
[42:09] Speaker 3: And then are the others will be able to to
[42:13] Speaker 3: to deal with it, and and and a new human
[42:16] Speaker 3: will emerge. But that's what we're looking at. And this
[42:20] Speaker 3: whole thing about the no procreating human What don't you
[42:26] Speaker 3: need if you don't procreate the human race, you don't
[42:31] Speaker 3: need men and women and so this transgender gender that
[42:37] Speaker 3: came out of nowhere is a stepping stone. I mean,
[42:41] Speaker 3: you know these transgender activists, they think it's all about them.
[42:45] Speaker 3: I mean, do wake up. You're being played like a
[42:48] Speaker 3: stringed instrument. It's not about transgender rights. This is about uh,
[42:54] Speaker 3: a confusing gender on the roads of fusing gender because
[42:58] Speaker 3: the human two point who is planned to be a
[43:01] Speaker 3: no gender human. So don't think that this is about transgender.
[43:06] Speaker 3: This is about no gender. And what they're doing is
[43:10] Speaker 3: why they're targeting the kids and the schools and the universities,
[43:14] Speaker 3: is they are confusing gender. First of all, you've got
[43:19] Speaker 3: man woman, the biological human man woman, and and then
[43:25] Speaker 3: you start to confuse it. And now I mean people
[43:29] Speaker 3: like the BBC they run stories about the fact there's
[43:33] Speaker 3: one hundred there's one hundred genders. No, there's not. The
[43:38] Speaker 3: people might feel that they're this or that and the other,
[43:40] Speaker 3: but but biologically there's you've got two genders. But they
[43:47] Speaker 3: don't want that and that you know what happening now
[43:51] Speaker 3: is if you are a professor in this arena in
[43:56] Speaker 3: a university and you say, actually, you know, biologically there's
[43:59] Speaker 3: two genders. No out, You're gone. The workers have adgia
[44:03] Speaker 3: because they don't want you to hold that because that
[44:07] Speaker 3: is two plus two equals four. We're being taken into
[44:12] Speaker 3: a world in which two and two equals five. And
[44:15] Speaker 3: to do that you have to go into a no
[44:19] Speaker 3: fact society where facts don't matter. We're there where you
[44:23] Speaker 3: just say this is how it is, and that's how
[44:25] Speaker 3: it is. You're not to support it with any facts.
[44:28] Speaker 3: And so no, no, there's one hundred genders. Well there's not.
[44:31] Speaker 3: But if you say there's not, then you get all
[44:35] Speaker 3: this abuse, not that I could care less. So the
[44:39] Speaker 3: kids are being systematically manipulated to let go of gender
[44:45] Speaker 3: first of all, confuse them and then fuse human two
[44:50] Speaker 3: point zero and no gender human. And that's why the
[44:54] Speaker 3: procreation problems are being systematically manipulated. And you know what
[45:02] Speaker 3: I said years ago, and this is the reason that
[45:04] Speaker 3: they're targeting men. You know, you know, you know who
[45:08] Speaker 3: they're targeting by who you can say what you like
[45:12] Speaker 3: about and who you can't. So they're targeting men, and
[45:19] Speaker 3: you can say what you like about men any other
[45:22] Speaker 3: form of sexuality. No, although they're starting to turn on
[45:25] Speaker 3: women as well as I said they would, because you've
[45:28] Speaker 3: got you've got the two genders. They they don't want
[45:30] Speaker 3: either of them anymore. So they start by targeting men,
[45:33] Speaker 3: that war on men, toxic masculinity, and now and now
[45:36] Speaker 3: they're just starting to move towards the women, which is
[45:38] Speaker 3: which is what I said they would as transgender starts
[45:42] Speaker 3: to you know, with this Biden bill, you know, which
[45:44] Speaker 3: is basically destroyed women's sport for a star and how
[45:49] Speaker 3: women have no right to privacy because you know, I
[45:53] Speaker 3: could say in America, I I self identify as a
[45:59] Speaker 3: woman called lolo right right, so that get that gives
[46:02] Speaker 3: me the right to to invader women's privacy, go into
[46:07] Speaker 3: their into their bathroom, engage in their sport. And and
[46:12] Speaker 3: because men have obviously a greater strength and muscle mass,
[46:17] Speaker 3: they're going to dominate the sport. I mean, women are
[46:20] Speaker 3: just being cast aside. You you would say that when
[46:24] Speaker 3: you would why are they doing this to women? Why
[46:27] Speaker 3: are they destroying their women's sport? Because they want They're
[46:31] Speaker 3: targeting both genders. It's just that the men came first.
[46:34] Speaker 3: And what they do is they they play the people
[46:37] Speaker 3: they're targeting off against each other. So you have the
[46:40] Speaker 3: me Too movement where where you know women women demonize men,
[46:44] Speaker 3: and it's like, hold on a minute, they're coming for
[46:47] Speaker 3: you next and it's already started. So this is what's
[46:52] Speaker 3: going on. And so as you as you connect the dots,
[46:56] Speaker 3: the the synthetic infusion into the body of this fake vaccine,
[47:01] Speaker 3: the transgender agenda, all of this stuff. The I mean,
[47:06] Speaker 3: uh that there's an horrific ah phone footage on on
[47:14] Speaker 3: David like dot com I saw today where there's this
[47:19] Speaker 3: these drag queens and they've got these kids and and
[47:23] Speaker 3: and and on a stage and it's it's it's horrific
[47:26] Speaker 3: and people should go and see it. It's it's circulating
[47:28] Speaker 3: around the internet now. And why why in countries all
[47:34] Speaker 3: over the world at the same time. Basically do people
[47:39] Speaker 3: have the same idea in authority? Ah No, we're going
[47:44] Speaker 3: to have drag queens in the schools or in the
[47:46] Speaker 3: local libraries, and we're going to have them reading stories
[47:49] Speaker 3: to little todd toddlers and stuff. What is a drag queen.
[47:54] Speaker 3: It's a man dressed as a woman. What's that? And
[47:59] Speaker 3: I have no problem with them, be my guest, enjoy yourself,
[48:03] Speaker 3: just don't push anyone else. But what is that? It's
[48:07] Speaker 3: gender confusion? And that's the whole thing that's going on
[48:11] Speaker 3: now with the kids and the young is confusing their
[48:15] Speaker 3: perception of gender. So you take it the anchors away,
[48:19] Speaker 3: and that's part of this whole thing for the no
[48:23] Speaker 3: gender human that we're moving into.
[48:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you can definitely see how those agendas tie together.
[48:29] Speaker 1: The transhuman agenda along with the vaccine and you know,
[48:32] Speaker 1: women's sports, everything that you mentioned, it all ties together
[48:36] Speaker 1: in this agenda. Now, we got a few minutes left
[48:38] Speaker 1: and I kind of want to switch gears a little
[48:40] Speaker 1: bit into something else that's been happening the past few
[48:44] Speaker 1: years that I find very interesting and also most likely
[48:49] Speaker 1: very deceptive.
[48:50] Speaker 2: We've had the tic Tac, the.
[48:52] Speaker 1: Amua muha Israelly defense official talking about a galactic federation.
[48:57] Speaker 1: Recently Pyramid UFOs, and the most main stream UFO coverage
[49:01] Speaker 1: that I've ever.
[49:01] Speaker 2: Seen before in the past few years.
[49:04] Speaker 1: Now it's coming from our government, is coming from the media,
[49:07] Speaker 1: so of course there's an agenda behind it. I'd like
[49:10] Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on what.
[49:11] Speaker 2: That could be.
[49:14] Speaker 3: Well. I started writing about this in the nineteen nineties
[49:20] Speaker 3: and revelations about Project Bluebet, which was a project to
[49:31] Speaker 3: eventually have a fake alien invasion. And you see where
[49:41] Speaker 3: they want to go in terms of political structure is
[49:45] Speaker 3: to a global level. So there's a world government dictating
[49:48] Speaker 3: at a world army and a world central bank, and
[49:51] Speaker 3: it's all centrally dictated. Every community in the world is
[49:54] Speaker 3: dictated to from this central point. That's what the smart
[49:58] Speaker 3: grid's all about. The plans they have to connect the
[50:02] Speaker 3: human brain to AI. It's about central control and creating
[50:06] Speaker 3: a high human mind which can be centrally controlled. But
[50:10] Speaker 3: that's another subject. And so if you want to centralize power,
[50:17] Speaker 3: and you want to centralize power very quickly, then a
[50:20] Speaker 3: mutual threat from beyond is a great way of doing it.
[50:25] Speaker 3: We must unite, we must pull everything, we must have
[50:28] Speaker 3: basically a global war cabinet to meet the threat. This
[50:31] Speaker 3: this threat from beyond. And I remember a quote from
[50:35] Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan when he was president, who said that, you know,
[50:40] Speaker 3: in a speech at the United Nations, that if there
[50:44] Speaker 3: was basically a threat from a non non human race,
[50:48] Speaker 3: a non human force, it would unite us and we
[50:51] Speaker 3: put down all the things that divide us.
[50:56] Speaker 1: And so there was a.
[51:01] Speaker 3: A guy who was a Nazi was in the He
[51:05] Speaker 3: was an engineer and a scientist in the Narchier the
[51:08] Speaker 3: gym called Verner von Braun, and he developed the V
[51:14] Speaker 3: two rockets that were fired by the Nazis on London
[51:17] Speaker 3: did tremendous amount of damage. And after the war, the CIA,
[51:22] Speaker 3: in league with other networks, had something called an Operation
[51:29] Speaker 3: paper Clip, Project paper Clip, in which they got the
[51:34] Speaker 3: major Nazi genesicists and engineers out of Germany and they
[51:41] Speaker 3: brought them to the United States. A lot of them
[51:43] Speaker 3: went to South America as well, but the United States too,
[51:48] Speaker 3: and one of them was Verner von Braun. And he then,
[51:53] Speaker 3: because these these these Nazi engineers basically created NASSA and
[51:58] Speaker 3: he worked at now savon Braun and he was the
[52:03] Speaker 3: lead engineer developing the satin five rockets that power the
[52:10] Speaker 3: Moon program. And what I'm saying all this is because
[52:14] Speaker 3: he had an assistant, an American assistant, and when he
[52:18] Speaker 3: found he was he was he was dying, he told
[52:23] Speaker 3: her to watch for a series of things that would
[52:31] Speaker 3: all be hoaxes and it would be a sequence. And
[52:35] Speaker 3: he talked about terrorism, like terrorist groups like al Kader
[52:40] Speaker 3: and stuff as we know them now. There would be
[52:45] Speaker 3: rogue countries that they would bring to the four that
[52:52] Speaker 3: would frighten the hell out of the world and allow
[52:57] Speaker 3: things to happen that otherwise wouldn't happen. He taught about
[53:02] Speaker 3: asteroids and stuff like that based debris that would be
[53:08] Speaker 3: said to be a threat to the world. And look
[53:12] Speaker 3: at all the things you could you could manipulate on
[53:15] Speaker 3: the back of that. And and the final one, he
[53:19] Speaker 3: said in this long there were there were others as well,
[53:22] Speaker 3: was a fake alien invasion.
[53:24] Speaker 1: Uh.
[53:25] Speaker 3: And and this is I think something we need to
[53:30] Speaker 3: keep in mind with current events, because I've been kind
[53:38] Speaker 3: of following this now, and I've been to America so
[53:41] Speaker 3: many times. You know, I used to go to America
[53:44] Speaker 3: in the nineties and across the millennium. I used to
[53:46] Speaker 3: go for about three months at a time, as long
[53:48] Speaker 3: as as long as the visa would allow me. So
[53:51] Speaker 3: I met loads of people and loads of people in
[53:53] Speaker 3: the UFO arena and whistleblowers and what have you. And
[53:58] Speaker 3: in that entire period, there was a tremendous suppression of
[54:07] Speaker 3: information about so called UFOs and people that claim that
[54:14] Speaker 3: they had had interactions with with aliens and stuff. And
[54:22] Speaker 3: it was ridicured and it was dismissed. Uh. And it
[54:27] Speaker 3: was not taken seriously by the authorities that then suddenly,
[54:32] Speaker 3: as you mentioned, and I've been kind of waiting for this,
[54:35] Speaker 3: really after you know what I found long ago, Suddenly
[54:42] Speaker 3: it's all changed, hasn't it. Suddenly the Pentagon is taking
[54:49] Speaker 3: it seriously, is releasing information and confirming that there are
[54:57] Speaker 3: things going on. They can't explain that they're allowing footage
[55:04] Speaker 3: to be released of pilots, military pilots who've caught on
[55:13] Speaker 3: their radar craft doing things that in the public arena
[55:20] Speaker 3: we know where near doing changing speed or changing direction
[55:25] Speaker 3: at tremendous speed, actually the speed itself. But another thing
[55:29] Speaker 3: that I've picked up over the years traveling around America
[55:35] Speaker 3: and talking to people about all the Area fifty one
[55:39] Speaker 3: and all these other different aspects of it, is that
[55:42] Speaker 3: it's very clear that what we call flying saucer technology,
[55:48] Speaker 3: it's in the hands of the American military, probably other
[55:52] Speaker 3: military too, like the Chinese, but it's just anti gravity technology.
[55:59] Speaker 3: And you want to give the impression that some alien
[56:06] Speaker 3: invasion is going on, and you've got technology which is
[56:10] Speaker 3: actually flown by humans, But the public have no idea.
[56:14] Speaker 3: If they see something like that, immediately they think alien,
[56:18] Speaker 3: because well, we an't got anything like that, well, not
[56:20] Speaker 3: in the public arena, we have no. And I'm not
[56:24] Speaker 3: dismissing that there are other, you know, forms of life,
[56:27] Speaker 3: of course, it's ridiculous that I mean, the idea that
[56:30] Speaker 3: we're with the only form of life is I mean,
[56:33] Speaker 3: it's beyond bloody laughable. But we've got to be very
[56:37] Speaker 3: careful about this, because again, if you can keep from
[56:42] Speaker 3: people the technology that you have, then you're in a
[56:45] Speaker 3: wonderful position to scam the belief that there's an alien
[56:51] Speaker 3: invasion when you're using technology that the public don't know about.
[56:56] Speaker 3: I think we've got to watch this very very carefully
[56:58] Speaker 3: because it's you know, a very blatant and obvious change
[57:04] Speaker 3: of attitude by the Pentagon and the the authorities in
[57:09] Speaker 3: general to how they were even not that long ago.
[57:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree that I think that it's something
[57:16] Speaker 1: to pay attention to very skeptically, and with the you know,
[57:22] Speaker 1: some reservations about it because of the sources coming from.
[57:25] Speaker 1: But David, I want to thank you for coming on
[57:28] Speaker 1: in closing. What do you think is any possible solutions
[57:33] Speaker 1: that we could have to this? What do we, as
[57:36] Speaker 1: you know, as people and as our society need to
[57:40] Speaker 1: do to come together to kind of counteract this.
[57:44] Speaker 3: Well, we I mean the answer is just sitting there.
[57:48] Speaker 3: I mean it's sitting there like this over here, over here,
[57:54] Speaker 3: And that's non cooperation. You know, reality, a handful of
[58:00] Speaker 3: people can't control billions of people unless the billions cooperate
[58:04] Speaker 3: with their own enslavement. What if last last, last, last spring,
[58:12] Speaker 3: or even through the summer. As it became realized that
[58:17] Speaker 3: this wasn't a deadly virus, that people said, look, we
[58:20] Speaker 3: ain't doing it. No, we're not wearing a mask. Okay,
[58:24] Speaker 3: so millions and millions and millions. So take take Trump
[58:27] Speaker 3: supporters or Trump voters, seventy four million people. What if
[58:32] Speaker 3: you know, a large number of them, hopefully all of them,
[58:36] Speaker 3: just said I'm not wearing a mask anymore. I'm not
[58:38] Speaker 3: doing it beyond enforceable that, you know, you take the
[58:42] Speaker 3: people that are ultimately dictating this from the shadows, and
[58:47] Speaker 3: you then add to them all the law enforcement and
[58:50] Speaker 3: all the official dumbing government that's playing out what they're
[58:53] Speaker 3: deciding and enforcing it, and you still got a tiny, tiny,
[58:58] Speaker 3: tiny number of people compared with the global population. They're
[59:03] Speaker 3: they're impotent if the population say no, not doing it
[59:08] Speaker 3: in anything like a big numbers. So it's sitting there
[59:12] Speaker 3: and it's no good. It's no good. People saying, well,
[59:18] Speaker 3: I won't do anything yet, but if it gets any worse,
[59:21] Speaker 3: I will. And then when it gets worse, which it
[59:23] Speaker 3: has been doing all the way through the last year
[59:25] Speaker 3: and more, were you going to do then? Oh well,
[59:28] Speaker 3: I'm not going to do anything now, but if it
[59:31] Speaker 3: gets any work And so it goes on and on
[59:33] Speaker 3: and on and on, and there comes a point where look,
[59:36] Speaker 3: come on, are we are we? Are we going to
[59:39] Speaker 3: stand up for freedom or not? And the way you
[59:42] Speaker 3: stand up for freedom is refused to be anything but free. Okay,
[59:48] Speaker 3: Do I have the freedom to wear a mask? Well no,
[59:50] Speaker 3: it's not wats me. Do I have freedom to ignore
[59:55] Speaker 3: your ludicrous rules that are only there to control me?
[59:58] Speaker 3: Well no, of course you've got to no, no, watch me?
[1:00:01] Speaker 3: And when when people and enough numbers do that, you know,
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: Protests are great in the sense that they are a
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: visual representation of public feeling, and they give people who
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: are maybe isolated in their family, who you know, who
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: don't think like they do. They see it's a way
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: of seeing that there's so many other people think the
[1:00:22] Speaker 3: way you do. So that's great on that level, but
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: the answer is not protest. That's just you know, an
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: expression of it. It's not cooperating. It's saying no, I'm
[1:00:33] Speaker 3: not doing it. That's all. That's all it is, you know.
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: I mean, we had a march in London a few
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: weeks ago against lockdown and so many people turned up.
[1:00:47] Speaker 3: There's another one on the twenty fourth of April. So
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: many people turned up. Nothing the police could do. I mean,
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: if a few people have turned up, the police were
[1:00:57] Speaker 3: in gotcha. But so many people turned up the police
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: just basically stood on and watched because there's just too
[1:01:05] Speaker 3: many people. They couldn't cope with it. And when the
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: police chief was interviewed, it was clear from his reaction
[1:01:12] Speaker 3: that he was taken aback by how many people there were.
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: So it's all sitting there waiting to be done, okay.
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: And what they're doing is desperately trying to divide and
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: rulers by getting the population to police itself, or we
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: allow officers and our next door neighbors been in the
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: garden twice today, or tend a car around, you know.
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they're trying to do. The starzy
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: technique of turning the population against itself. But there's still
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: vast numbers of people despite all that, who got it
[1:01:46] Speaker 3: and seen it, and we've got to move from seeing it,
[1:01:50] Speaker 3: which more and more people are to ceasing to cooperate
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: with it, refusing to conform and refusing to obey. And
[1:01:59] Speaker 3: when enough people do that, this is over. It's unenforceable.
[1:02:03] Speaker 3: Oh things unenforceable. And the longer we leave it, the
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: more we're allowing these structures of control, technological control, things
[1:02:14] Speaker 3: like the passports and all that, to to lock in
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: this gathering control system like you see in China. And
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: so what are we waiting for? Because if you think
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: it's going to get any better without you season to cooperate, well,
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: it's not. They're banking on that that you think like that,
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: you say, oh, just wait a bit longer. Yeah, okay,
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: let's give them more time to make it worse and
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: to lock in these structures of control, which makes push
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: back more difficult. How long we're going to wait? I
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: mean how long we waited already. Because if people think
[1:02:54] Speaker 3: it's going to get better, or they'll keep their head
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: down and we get better, it's not. It's not meant
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: to it's meant to get worse, it's meant to get
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: more and more extreme.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: And so.
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: When when when's our line going to be crossed? My
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: mind was crossed at the start of the first lockdown. Uh,
[1:03:13] Speaker 3: and I've refused to cooperate with any of them. I
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: won't do it. I'll go I'll give me consequences. You know,
[1:03:20] Speaker 3: I'm still not doing it. Intimidate me, Well, you won't,
[1:03:23] Speaker 3: because you can't. I'm not doing it because if if
[1:03:28] Speaker 3: you compromise or appease tyranny, it's it's it's it's a
[1:03:32] Speaker 3: mug's game, because tyranny will always want more appeasement and
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: more appeasement and more obey obeyance and so on until
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: it's got you completely stitched up and all your freedom's gone.
[1:03:44] Speaker 3: So the only way to meet this is to say
[1:03:47] Speaker 3: I'm not compromising in any way, shape or form with tyranny.
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: When we've got the numbers, ah, it's over. So you
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: know I said, it's nothing we can do. No, there's nothing,
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: nothing you want to do that there's nothing that you
[1:04:03] Speaker 3: would like to do because you'd rather not have to
[1:04:07] Speaker 3: do it. But we do. We we have to look
[1:04:11] Speaker 3: this in the face. We have to look it in
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: the eye and say, no, I'm not cooperating with it,
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: because they have no power. This is the point. Authority
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: has no power except the power we give to it. Fascists.
[1:04:29] Speaker 3: Fascism is not brought in by fascists, never has been.
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: There's not enough of them. It's brought in by public acquiescence. Populations,
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: acquiescence to fascism the only way it can be brought in.
[1:04:40] Speaker 3: You know, you look at Nazi Germany. Look how many
[1:04:42] Speaker 3: people were in Germany at that time compared with a
[1:04:45] Speaker 3: number of full blown Nazis. They were muh. But they
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: acquiesced to it, and therefore they got it, and and
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: that's that should be a lesson to us all. But
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: for some they're still not getting it. You cannot appease fascism.
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: You cannot appease tyranny. You can only look it in
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: the eye and say I'm not cooperating with you. And
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: what happens happens. But I'm not call I'd rather die
[1:05:14] Speaker 3: than wear a mask. I would because in the end,
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: you know, Martin Luther King talked about this that if
[1:05:23] Speaker 3: you're faced with a great cause and you're being challenged
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: to stand up for some great cause. And my god,
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: it's a great cause now when you think of the
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: world our kids and grandkids are going to live in
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: if we don't end this nonsense. When you when you
[1:05:38] Speaker 3: face with it, and but you won't do it, you
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: let you let fear or you know, what are the
[1:05:46] Speaker 3: consequences for me get in the way? Something inside your dies?
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: A king talked about this, Something inside you dies. Uh.
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: And you know, I've I know of people who can
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: see what's happening, but they're in families that can't. And
[1:06:12] Speaker 3: they've although they know about all this, and they've read
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: about all this, and they've read about the vaccines and
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: what's in them and all that stuff, they've had the vaccine.
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: They've had the vaccine fake vaccine to appease their family,
[1:06:27] Speaker 3: who clearly are clueless because they don't know anything about
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: what's going on, just believe what the government tells them.
[1:06:33] Speaker 3: And those people are not the same people. Something inside
[1:06:37] Speaker 3: them has died on a spiritual level because of what
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: they've done, because they know that they shouldn't have done it,
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: and they know that they've conceded that their self respect
[1:06:54] Speaker 3: to appease others. And you can't do that if you
[1:06:58] Speaker 3: want to bring it into tyranny, we've got to look
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: it in the eye. But almost not even that. We
[1:07:06] Speaker 3: just don't cooperate with it. No, I'm not doing it,
[1:07:09] Speaker 3: not doing it. Do this, nope, do that, Nope, nope.
[1:07:13] Speaker 3: There be enough people have that attitude. It's over and
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: it is that simple. It is that simple because if
[1:07:21] Speaker 3: you can't control the many without the acquiescence of the many.
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: Yes, very well said. I agree, one hundred percent. We
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: just have to not comply with any of this. David.
[1:07:32] Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for coming on today for
[1:07:35] Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time. Fantastic information, and I'd
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: definitely love to speak with you again in the future.
[1:07:41] Speaker 3: Okay, nice to talk to you again. See it. Have
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: a good day.
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: And until next Today, my guest is Michael Whan. He
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: is an artist, astrologer, and independent researcher. He is known
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: for the Susquehanna Mystery and the Rights of the fortieth Parallel.
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: He navigates by pointing his compass towards uniqueness, patterns, memicry, resonance,
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: and universal truths. Michael, welcome back. How you doing today.
[1:08:05] Speaker 4: I am doing great, Chris, thank you for having me
[1:08:09] Speaker 4: it's been a while, so I'm excited to be back.
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's always great having you on. Last
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: time you were on, I think it was like, oh man,
[1:08:20] Speaker 1: close to almost a year ago. So much has happened,
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: you know. We always go deep, we always go down
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: some fascinating rabbit holes. I don't expect to day to
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: be any different, especially given the world we're currently in.
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: Like I said, so much has happened. First of all,
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: how have you been in your world? Anything different or
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: new for you?
[1:08:42] Speaker 4: Well, you can't have the outer world change as much
[1:08:47] Speaker 4: as the outer world has changed without your inner world
[1:08:50] Speaker 4: being connected to it and changing as well, regardless if
[1:08:53] Speaker 4: you're not, if you're saying that's not my world, but
[1:08:56] Speaker 4: still you're connected to it, or at least I am.
[1:08:59] Speaker 4: And so yes, of course I've changed a lot. This
[1:09:03] Speaker 4: past year has uh been a real interesting time for me.
[1:09:11] Speaker 4: Is just like as an individual human being, I mean,
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: as everything is changing and uh and in the outer world,
[1:09:18] Speaker 4: like there's so much like so much is is is uh,
[1:09:22] Speaker 4: despite the fact of what they're telling you, there's there's
[1:09:24] Speaker 4: so much potentiality because nothing's ever going to be the same,
[1:09:28] Speaker 4: and so like there's almost an overwhelming amount of potentiality
[1:09:32] Speaker 4: because the world is being rewritten right now and it
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: does not necessarily have to follow the script which is
[1:09:38] Speaker 4: being laid before us. So that being said, like yeah,
[1:09:41] Speaker 4: like this past really the past six months for me
[1:09:45] Speaker 4: has been like really questioning, like what is it that
[1:09:48] Speaker 4: I want to do? What is it that interests me?
[1:09:51] Speaker 4: What is it that I think is going to serve me,
[1:09:55] Speaker 4: serve my community. All of those sort of questions, I mean,
[1:09:57] Speaker 4: and those are big questions for me. I typically have
[1:10:00] Speaker 4: been a float by life kind of purpose person, and
[1:10:05] Speaker 4: so this has been new, and it's been you know,
[1:10:08] Speaker 4: everything which is new, like in some in some ways
[1:10:11] Speaker 4: like exciting and fun, but then in other ways, like
[1:10:13] Speaker 4: you know, I've been a pain.
[1:10:16] Speaker 3: In the ass.
[1:10:17] Speaker 4: I miss the old ways. So yeah, how's that for
[1:10:19] Speaker 4: an answer for your question?
[1:10:21] Speaker 2: That's that's perfect answer. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: It's it's been so strange the past year and a half.
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: But tonight we're gonna be broadcasting live on rock fins,
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: so we can get as controversial and say whatever, no
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: no words they don't let you say on other platforms.
[1:10:38] Speaker 1: We can say today and you know, this whole situation
[1:10:42] Speaker 1: with COVID has devolved into this like insane sci fi
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: soap opera type situation in the media. You have actors
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: like Faucy Gates now ran Paul Trump, and then we
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: get hit with this UFO madness on top of everything else.
[1:10:59] Speaker 4: It's so crazy.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: If we were in a coma for the past like
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: two years and you woke up now, you'd be in
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: a crazy different world than you're used to.
[1:11:07] Speaker 2: So, let's what do you think is has been going on?
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: The last time we spoke, we kind of uh touched
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: on the ritualistic aspects that could possibly be going on
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: behind here. Now we've got the major push for vaccines.
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: You know, what do you think is going on behind
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: the scenes here? Uh since the last time we talked?
[1:11:29] Speaker 4: So, okay, that's a that's a fantastic way to start
[1:11:32] Speaker 4: the show. So the first thing, and maybe this is
[1:11:36] Speaker 4: gonna this will this will like link back to the last.
[1:11:39] Speaker 4: The last thing we're just talking about is is it's
[1:11:44] Speaker 4: become so ridiculously obvious that this is a show and
[1:11:49] Speaker 4: part of like what I've seen in my own life,
[1:11:52] Speaker 4: like I've I've always had like a what would call
[1:11:55] Speaker 4: synchronistic sort of lens and rich experiences in my life,
[1:12:00] Speaker 4: and that has become that has become even more so
[1:12:03] Speaker 4: in the past six months, let's say, but in a
[1:12:06] Speaker 4: kind of a different way. But it also corresponds with
[1:12:10] Speaker 4: a withdraw from from the hypnosis of the story, because
[1:12:16] Speaker 4: the story is friggin like whether you are whether you
[1:12:20] Speaker 4: are like engrossed in it because you believe it to
[1:12:23] Speaker 4: be real, or whether you're engrossed in it because you're like,
[1:12:26] Speaker 4: I can't believe this shit which they're showing us, like
[1:12:28] Speaker 4: you know, the drive by on like a bad accident site,
[1:12:32] Speaker 4: like it don't matter because it sucks you in. And
[1:12:34] Speaker 4: that to me is like almost the where I'm where,
[1:12:38] Speaker 4: where I'm understanding it right now is like so much
[1:12:41] Speaker 4: of the ritual is to like create that like what
[1:12:45] Speaker 4: they would call in economics the priming of the pump
[1:12:48] Speaker 4: to bring in everyone to pay attention, Like, oh, yeah,
[1:12:50] Speaker 4: we're gonna do this ritual, but we're also gonna let
[1:12:51] Speaker 4: you know we're doing this ritual so you could start
[1:12:53] Speaker 4: watching this ritual, which feeds it. So like, uh, in
[1:12:58] Speaker 4: a way, I've been stepping a lot back from like
[1:13:00] Speaker 4: trying to feed that. But that being said, that being said,
[1:13:04] Speaker 4: like I still can't help but peak because like I
[1:13:07] Speaker 4: was born into the system and they got me hooked
[1:13:09] Speaker 4: as much as anyone else, and and and it is fascinating.
[1:13:12] Speaker 4: So so with that being said, this is going to
[1:13:14] Speaker 4: be kind of frush for me because I am not
[1:13:16] Speaker 4: as as deep into following the narrative as I once was,
[1:13:22] Speaker 4: But I do peak every once in a while. And
[1:13:24] Speaker 4: you are absolutely right as you were in terms of
[1:13:29] Speaker 4: tying in COVID to this this UFO phenomenon that has
[1:13:36] Speaker 4: been a topic which I've withdrawn from a couple of
[1:13:40] Speaker 4: years ago, mainly because I I didn't know which way
[1:13:46] Speaker 4: was up and I did not want to participate in it.
[1:13:48] Speaker 4: It's not it's not so much that that like I'm
[1:13:51] Speaker 4: in like you know, saying this is what I think
[1:13:53] Speaker 4: it is, or this is what I think it is.
[1:13:54] Speaker 4: It's more so it's like, well, I don't know, because
[1:13:56] Speaker 4: I've certainly had my own experiences with with with strange
[1:13:59] Speaker 4: things in the sky, and maybe we could get into that.
[1:14:02] Speaker 4: But that being said, like this story, to me, the
[1:14:05] Speaker 4: timing of this and the well orchestratedness of how this
[1:14:10] Speaker 4: is being rolled out is and that is worthy of
[1:14:15] Speaker 4: paying attention to, right now if we look at last
[1:14:19] Speaker 4: summer as kind of a you know, like a comparison,
[1:14:23] Speaker 4: maybe like there was in the summer, there was the releasing.
[1:14:27] Speaker 4: There was a releasing of the pressure of that first
[1:14:30] Speaker 4: round of lockdown for for uh, pretty much the world.
[1:14:35] Speaker 4: I'll focus in North America because that's what I know
[1:14:38] Speaker 4: more personally. And so then we got like all the riots,
[1:14:41] Speaker 4: So there was like the there was the the green
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: light was given for that energy to be to be released.
[1:14:48] Speaker 4: And I'm thinking last year was a little bit different
[1:14:51] Speaker 4: because it was that election year and all this stuff
[1:14:53] Speaker 4: was tied into that, and then you had like the resurrection. No,
[1:14:56] Speaker 4: it wasn't called the what's the word they used? I
[1:14:58] Speaker 4: always think resurrection, But it's like what of those those
[1:15:00] Speaker 4: words is which which they say? And that was this
[1:15:03] Speaker 4: other sort of like you know, we can see like
[1:15:06] Speaker 4: how the the energy is being stoked, and what parts
[1:15:09] Speaker 4: of the population are being stoked, and what part of
[1:15:12] Speaker 4: consciousness is being stoked. And so now we're like, all right,
[1:15:15] Speaker 4: they're gonna hit you up with with the aliens, and
[1:15:19] Speaker 4: you've got like a whole variety of people who like,
[1:15:21] Speaker 4: you know, how they're going to respond to it. So
[1:15:24] Speaker 4: you've got like a group of people who are like,
[1:15:26] Speaker 4: they don't look at aliens, Aliens all ridiculous stuff. You've
[1:15:29] Speaker 4: got the mainstream folks which are like, oh, yeah, I've
[1:15:32] Speaker 4: seen the History Channel and they've been telling me about
[1:15:34] Speaker 4: aliens and I've been seeing the slow drip. Then you've
[1:15:36] Speaker 4: got like, you know, maybe more of like what you'd
[1:15:38] Speaker 4: call like the New Aage sort of understanding of aliens.
[1:15:42] Speaker 4: And then you got like, you know, the people who
[1:15:43] Speaker 4: don't really have an opinion, or the people just say
[1:15:45] Speaker 4: like no, this is all just like Nazi end or
[1:15:48] Speaker 4: or like military stuff which we're seeing in the sky. Nonetheless,
[1:15:53] Speaker 4: they're all gonna get hit with it, and there's gonna
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: be this this kind of like, you know, how is
[1:15:59] Speaker 4: that going to respond? How are the different groups going
[1:16:01] Speaker 4: to respond to that? So I think that's that's that
[1:16:04] Speaker 4: that's a fascinating, like, you know, I'm I'm intrigued to
[1:16:07] Speaker 4: see where that's going to go. But then the timing
[1:16:09] Speaker 4: of that with the COVID, because there's a lot of
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: there are two things that you're jumping out with the COVID.
[1:16:15] Speaker 4: One is there's a huge release of the gas. So
[1:16:18] Speaker 4: Pennsylvania was a state where they had like the mass mandate, Well,
[1:16:22] Speaker 4: isn't like that big of a deal, Like I would
[1:16:25] Speaker 4: you know, some places i'd wear it for but for
[1:16:27] Speaker 4: the most part, I you know, it wasn't a big deal.
[1:16:29] Speaker 4: If you weren't, you might get some looks or what
[1:16:31] Speaker 4: have you. But all of that is like kind of changing.
[1:16:33] Speaker 4: So they're taking that off, and they're already like you know,
[1:16:36] Speaker 4: there's what I'm also noticing is they're they're starting to
[1:16:41] Speaker 4: talk about what the next round is gonna be. So
[1:16:43] Speaker 4: they're set in the stage for like okay, like now
[1:16:45] Speaker 4: you got to start thinking about the next thing, and
[1:16:47] Speaker 4: that's going to be the really bad one that's coming.
[1:16:50] Speaker 4: And I'm like, this is just all like, this is
[1:16:51] Speaker 4: all this is. This is a story. These are all stories.
[1:16:54] Speaker 4: These are ridiculous stories. None of it's real. I don't
[1:16:58] Speaker 4: buy any of it. I'm I'll say it this way.
[1:17:01] Speaker 4: I've not seen any evidence to make me to come
[1:17:04] Speaker 4: to the conclusion that this is a real thing. And
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: and so like I'm seeing these stories, so that's helping
[1:17:11] Speaker 4: me pull out a little bit from like being being
[1:17:15] Speaker 4: focused upon them. And so I'm going to go right
[1:17:18] Speaker 4: into this beeping the fire alarm. So as as that
[1:17:22] Speaker 4: has been happening, as that's been happening, is I've been like, like,
[1:17:25] Speaker 4: these are ridiculous stories. I'm not even like paying that
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: much attention anymore. I mean obviously enough to give you
[1:17:30] Speaker 4: that recap, but like all of this other like very
[1:17:34] Speaker 4: very strange things are happening on a very very high
[1:17:39] Speaker 4: level h in my regular life, like both with technology
[1:17:43] Speaker 4: and with the natural world. And I pay attention to patterns,
[1:17:47] Speaker 4: so I like have a point of reference in my
[1:17:49] Speaker 4: own life to know, like, you know, what I'm seeing
[1:17:52] Speaker 4: and you know, stuff's just getting weird. Where I'm standing
[1:17:56] Speaker 4: right now is you know, I still I hold the
[1:18:00] Speaker 4: understanding that that the human experience at its heart as
[1:18:04] Speaker 4: a mystery, like not a mystery to be solved, but
[1:18:06] Speaker 4: to be embraced. So like there's a big part of
[1:18:08] Speaker 4: like I'm willing to accept a lot of unknown and
[1:18:11] Speaker 4: so the unknown, the biggest unknown is like, you know,
[1:18:15] Speaker 4: where are we having our life experience? Where is this thing?
[1:18:19] Speaker 4: And to me on a on a very basic on
[1:18:23] Speaker 4: a fundamental level, that seems to be changing, like more
[1:18:27] Speaker 4: so than everything which we're seeing with with like this
[1:18:30] Speaker 4: these stories, we're seeing other changes and we're seeing it
[1:18:34] Speaker 4: in these weird ways. And this is kind of why
[1:18:36] Speaker 4: I go back to that thing, like everything is possible,
[1:18:39] Speaker 4: like in the most in the only our our our
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: creativity and our imagination, I think right now is the
[1:18:46] Speaker 4: only limitation. That's why it's been so important that they
[1:18:49] Speaker 4: shaped it so that your imagination will fit their storyline.
[1:18:53] Speaker 4: But like we're at a point right now where if
[1:18:55] Speaker 4: we start to strip back, we're stripping back some of
[1:18:58] Speaker 4: those stories and like you know, you're moving to a
[1:19:01] Speaker 4: new place, You've got all new you don't have any
[1:19:04] Speaker 4: of those old stories that you have anymore. Like we
[1:19:06] Speaker 4: are in that position. And so as we see what's
[1:19:10] Speaker 4: coming this summer, we're seeing kind of like a let
[1:19:13] Speaker 4: dat a release. Hopefully in a lot of these mandates,
[1:19:17] Speaker 4: there's gonna be something put out which is gonna stoke
[1:19:20] Speaker 4: everyone's imagination. Like my expectation is like things are going
[1:19:24] Speaker 4: to just get stranger and stranger, and uh, you know,
[1:19:28] Speaker 4: I'm kind of excited for it.
[1:19:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, I am too.
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, there's there's things that
[1:19:34] Speaker 1: are happening that are naturally strange, and then there's things
[1:19:37] Speaker 1: that are happening to where they're kind of pushing this
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: and and kind of pushing the collective culture and the
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: collective consciousness, consciousness to uh, to think in a certain direction.
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: So now if it's you know, if I'm thinking, well,
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: if they're coming out with all this UFO stuff, and
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: I definitely don't trust anything that's coming out from our
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: government or media, and this is the sources that all
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: this information is coming from. I mean, it's fascinating, but
[1:20:06] Speaker 1: of course I'm not gonna trust it. But why and
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: where is it going? And what's gonna happen? Like you said,
[1:20:11] Speaker 1: something fantastical may happen. Is this gonna be like a staged,
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: fake alien invasion thing? I mean, I've heard that so
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: much over the years from different to you know, conspiracy
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: theorists and people.
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: Or could it be something else.
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: Are they gonna roll out some toys that they've just
[1:20:28] Speaker 1: been itching to roll out for their space force? You know,
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: could be any of those things. It's gonna be a
[1:20:33] Speaker 1: very fascinating time to pay attention.
[1:20:34] Speaker 4: To this stuff, probably both. I mean, we're gonna see
[1:20:38] Speaker 4: the I mean, there there is this this stringing along
[1:20:41] Speaker 4: that's one of the most important things. And this is
[1:20:44] Speaker 4: what comes with experience like when you've been when you've
[1:20:47] Speaker 4: been following these storylines for like a while, and you
[1:20:53] Speaker 4: see like the build up, you see the build up
[1:20:55] Speaker 4: of like you know, oh, something's coming, all the signs
[1:20:57] Speaker 4: are there, this is gonna happen, and then it doesn't happen,
[1:21:00] Speaker 4: and you see this over and over again, you're like, okay, okay,
[1:21:04] Speaker 4: you're beginning to recognize that that that's a modus operandi.
[1:21:09] Speaker 3: Uh.
[1:21:09] Speaker 4: And there's always that voice in your back your mind,
[1:21:11] Speaker 4: it's like, but is this the one? Is this the time?
[1:21:14] Speaker 4: You know that it's you know, those who knows what's
[1:21:16] Speaker 4: going to happen, But like, but that's it, Like they're
[1:21:19] Speaker 4: the biggest thing which I'm seeing is like this is
[1:21:22] Speaker 4: stringing along, but it is I think from if I
[1:21:26] Speaker 4: did not see all of the things in my own
[1:21:28] Speaker 4: personal life, which has just been weird, Uh, then I
[1:21:32] Speaker 4: would be like, well, this is just like you know,
[1:21:34] Speaker 4: smoking mirrors, but I think it's mostly smoking mirrors because
[1:21:36] Speaker 4: there's something there is something which is changing. You know,
[1:21:40] Speaker 4: we are changing whatever that may be. The environment which
[1:21:43] Speaker 4: we're experienced life in is changing, and uh, that is
[1:21:48] Speaker 4: that is where I really want to go, uh, with
[1:21:50] Speaker 4: my with my awareness and my attention in the in
[1:21:54] Speaker 4: the coming months, and then also being very very as
[1:21:57] Speaker 4: grounded as I can. And this has been some which
[1:22:00] Speaker 4: has been different in the last six months as well,
[1:22:03] Speaker 4: has been recognizing like fundamental lenses in which I see reality.
[1:22:12] Speaker 4: And these are seemingly like like not big deal sort
[1:22:17] Speaker 4: of things, but I think that you know that they're
[1:22:20] Speaker 4: really big And this is part of the way of
[1:22:23] Speaker 4: becoming free of the consciousness which has been put in
[1:22:27] Speaker 4: all of us, even though those of us who are like, no,
[1:22:29] Speaker 4: I know the media's bullshit, and I know the government's bullshit,
[1:22:33] Speaker 4: and I know that's bullshit, and I know targets bullshit,
[1:22:35] Speaker 4: and I know Amazon's bullshit. But still like we are
[1:22:38] Speaker 4: ingrained in the system we're born into. So like I've
[1:22:41] Speaker 4: been doing a lot of stuff like reconstructing calendars, like
[1:22:45] Speaker 4: getting away from that looking at the natural world in
[1:22:49] Speaker 4: a very very different way. And so that's where I'm
[1:22:54] Speaker 4: hoping to really connect and be part of when this
[1:23:01] Speaker 4: change which we're experiencing begins to or continues on its trajectory.
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see, and I
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: want to get into some of the changes that you're
[1:23:12] Speaker 1: noticing collectively around not only with people, but like you said,
[1:23:16] Speaker 1: in your environment stuff. But one of the things that's
[1:23:20] Speaker 1: hard to kind of get a peg on is where
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: people are standing right now collectively when it comes to
[1:23:25] Speaker 1: their view of Shenanigans, you know, basically, is their view
[1:23:30] Speaker 1: of is this BS or is this not? Are we
[1:23:33] Speaker 1: being played or are we not? They have this new
[1:23:36] Speaker 1: thing in the media that I heard the other day
[1:23:37] Speaker 1: called mask culture where people don't want to stop wearing masks.
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: It's a new thing because it's cool. You know, I
[1:23:44] Speaker 1: don't know how real that are, do you know? Are
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: there a sect of people that want to keep wearing masks? Sure,
[1:23:50] Speaker 1: I'm sure there are.
[1:23:50] Speaker 2: But is it as big and.
[1:23:53] Speaker 1: You know, trendy as the media wants us to think
[1:23:56] Speaker 1: it is. You know, I'm wondering collectively how many people
[1:23:59] Speaker 1: are still on with the nonsense and how many people
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: are just kind of evolving and kind of doing their
[1:24:05] Speaker 1: own free thinking and being sovereign individuals, you know what
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: I mean.
[1:24:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm always gauging the population just by
[1:24:14] Speaker 4: looking around at at at you know, what percent of
[1:24:18] Speaker 4: people I see wearing masks, and particularly those who wear
[1:24:21] Speaker 4: it while driving, and so you know that's my own
[1:24:25] Speaker 4: kind of like uh soft analysis, but I tend to
[1:24:29] Speaker 4: agree with you that that's a like that's the real
[1:24:34] Speaker 4: definition of a meme. Like if you go back to
[1:24:37] Speaker 4: seeing where like meme was first introduced into uh like
[1:24:41] Speaker 4: the the lexicon, what a meme means a mind virus,
[1:24:45] Speaker 4: and so a mind virus is basically an idea which
[1:24:49] Speaker 4: then spreads. And so that's what when when you you
[1:24:54] Speaker 4: see in the media, particularly everything is so segmented and demographic,
[1:24:59] Speaker 4: like they know exactly who they're getting to, and you
[1:25:03] Speaker 4: release this story and you put this idea in people's
[1:25:05] Speaker 4: minds like hey, it's it's you know, it's cool, it's
[1:25:08] Speaker 4: cool to do this, to wear the mask. And then
[1:25:11] Speaker 4: at the same time you get like, you know, you
[1:25:13] Speaker 4: see all of the studies that say that you should
[1:25:16] Speaker 4: still be scared, Like, you know, I think they're creating it.
[1:25:19] Speaker 4: Like undoubtedly maybe some people, I think, like wearing a mask.
[1:25:24] Speaker 4: I think that's probably a really small percentage of people.
[1:25:28] Speaker 4: But that whole thing to make a trendy Yet that's
[1:25:32] Speaker 4: made up, that's not real, that's that's that's Edward Burnet's
[1:25:37] Speaker 4: propaganda one oh one. But it works, you know, you'll
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: go and see some people, but then you go, like
[1:25:47] Speaker 4: I live in Pennsylvania, and this has been the case
[1:25:49] Speaker 4: from the whole time. Was there are three counties which
[1:25:54] Speaker 4: I'm kinda nearby, Like so there's I live in Lancaster County,
[1:25:59] Speaker 4: and then there's York County on the other side of
[1:26:00] Speaker 4: the Susquehanna, and then like above that is is is
[1:26:04] Speaker 4: Cumberland County and or I'll say Lebanon County two. So
[1:26:07] Speaker 4: these four counties, and what I've noticed is that each
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: and this is probably true for most areas, like counties
[1:26:14] Speaker 4: have a certain flavor, like you know, this is the
[1:26:16] Speaker 4: way this county is, and this is the way this
[1:26:17] Speaker 4: county is, and the mask wearing is totally in alignment
[1:26:22] Speaker 4: on those lines, Like you know, Lancaster tends to be
[1:26:26] Speaker 4: a little bit more uptight, a little bit more like
[1:26:29] Speaker 4: you know, things are orderly, and people are all wearing
[1:26:32] Speaker 4: their mask much more and Likester like takes itself very seriously.
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: They go to York County and your county is like
[1:26:39] Speaker 4: I think there's their tagline is like historically edgy, which
[1:26:43] Speaker 4: is mean, like from as long as you could remember,
[1:26:46] Speaker 4: this is where like any shit goes and so you
[1:26:49] Speaker 4: drive it New York, it's like any shit goes and
[1:26:51] Speaker 4: like people are like, you know, they've got like a
[1:26:53] Speaker 4: mask on their phone, but they don't have it on
[1:26:55] Speaker 4: their face, and they're like, I don't give a fuck.
[1:26:57] Speaker 4: You know, that's yourk county and maybe some people are
[1:27:00] Speaker 4: wearing it. And then you go into like maybe a
[1:27:02] Speaker 4: little bit more rural areas like in Lebanon or Cumberland,
[1:27:06] Speaker 4: and it's like people like, no, I'm not gonna wear
[1:27:07] Speaker 4: a mask because it's no one's right to tell me
[1:27:09] Speaker 4: I'm gonna wear a mask, and I'm just not, you know,
[1:27:11] Speaker 4: And it's it's it's that and I think that that's
[1:27:13] Speaker 4: where those kind of like if we want to look
[1:27:16] Speaker 4: at things in the most basic level, like we can
[1:27:18] Speaker 4: look at these demographics in terms of like who's going
[1:27:21] Speaker 4: to be listening to it, you know, and it shouldn't
[1:27:25] Speaker 4: be any surprise, Like it's it's the the same part
[1:27:29] Speaker 4: of the population which is under the spell of everything else,
[1:27:36] Speaker 4: which is in the storyline, Like, uh, you know, it
[1:27:39] Speaker 4: fits so much with you know, I don't want to
[1:27:41] Speaker 4: be general because it's not it's there's individuals, but like
[1:27:44] Speaker 4: this kind of like social justice warrior progressive sort of
[1:27:48] Speaker 4: that like that's where it's most embraced, Like that's where
[1:27:50] Speaker 4: it's cool to cool to have cool to have, uh,
[1:27:55] Speaker 4: the the wear the mask and and you know, the
[1:27:58] Speaker 4: pandemic hasn't gone away. And that's sort of And I
[1:28:00] Speaker 4: got a lot of friends who are in that community
[1:28:02] Speaker 4: are like people I know, like before things got ugly,
[1:28:05] Speaker 4: And so I don't find it my job to want
[1:28:07] Speaker 4: to go and question someone else's story because there's a
[1:28:10] Speaker 4: reason someone holds on to a story. They have to
[1:28:12] Speaker 4: let it go themselves. So like that's why I'm a
[1:28:15] Speaker 4: little bit like, you know, I tiptoe around it. But
[1:28:18] Speaker 4: the other people, for whatever reason they're for not subscribing,
[1:28:22] Speaker 4: like you know, they're not going to buy into that,
[1:28:24] Speaker 4: and I think it's going to gather more and more steam.
[1:28:26] Speaker 4: Is like they're probably not going to put their masks
[1:28:28] Speaker 4: on it all again.
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: One of the things that's happening right now that I'm
[1:28:32] Speaker 1: sure you've noticed is the basically it's just a racing history.
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: They're taking all our beloved childhood cartoon characters and we
[1:28:42] Speaker 1: won't see those guys anymore because they're offensive to some people,
[1:28:46] Speaker 1: you know, just dis cancel culture where anything that doesn't
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: fit the narrative, anything that offends a certain group of people,
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: is getting erased from history. And you know, anybody that
[1:28:56] Speaker 1: says our history books aren't accurate, oh, they wouldn't do that.
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: Look at what's happen happening right now, right in front
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: of our faces. It's you know, basically just book burning.
[1:29:05] Speaker 1: And I wonder if you know, our future generations are
[1:29:08] Speaker 1: going to know the truth about what really happened during
[1:29:11] Speaker 1: this time because we don't know the real truth about
[1:29:14] Speaker 1: what happened in our recent history according to our you know,
[1:29:17] Speaker 1: just textbooks that you go to your you know, modern academia,
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: your your your education system is going to show you
[1:29:24] Speaker 1: you won't get it there either.
[1:29:27] Speaker 4: So yeah, you make a very valid point. And I
[1:29:31] Speaker 4: look at it from two different ways. Like one is like, yes,
[1:29:34] Speaker 4: that the the the both the history and the culture
[1:29:38] Speaker 4: which which we grew up in. We're seeing that erased
[1:29:42] Speaker 4: before our eyes, and we're seeing it being erased in
[1:29:45] Speaker 4: a dramatic way. But my sense is this is kind
[1:29:50] Speaker 4: of how it's always been, you know, in certain ways.
[1:29:53] Speaker 4: So it's like there's there is a continuity, like right
[1:29:56] Speaker 4: now is more extreme than what it was ten years ago.
[1:29:59] Speaker 4: But but like nonetheless, so there's kind of that and
[1:30:03] Speaker 4: I hold the opinion like I don't know what. I
[1:30:06] Speaker 4: don't trust any of the history anyway, so it's like,
[1:30:09] Speaker 4: you know, it's the best. I don't have a better history.
[1:30:11] Speaker 4: And that's one of the thing reasons why like like
[1:30:15] Speaker 4: so many of these other narratives are able to people
[1:30:21] Speaker 4: will grab hold on it is because we don't have
[1:30:23] Speaker 4: a history or we inherently know that what we're told
[1:30:26] Speaker 4: isn't the whole thing. So where there's like a hole
[1:30:29] Speaker 4: in us, whether we're conscious of it or not, Like
[1:30:31] Speaker 4: I want to know, I want to know who am I,
[1:30:34] Speaker 4: where did I come from? And so like there's much
[1:30:37] Speaker 4: more willingness to like accept something which like you know,
[1:30:40] Speaker 4: well this answers some of the questions. So like that's
[1:30:42] Speaker 4: definitely in play. But then the flip side, though, is
[1:30:49] Speaker 4: about the erasing of of what we had, what we
[1:30:55] Speaker 4: remember in terms of our culture, Like this comes with
[1:30:59] Speaker 4: the whole idea.
[1:31:00] Speaker 3: Uh of.
[1:31:02] Speaker 4: There's a lot of potentiality because here's the here's the
[1:31:06] Speaker 4: every the nay. What history also does, what knowing your
[1:31:12] Speaker 4: past also does is it holds you to it you know,
[1:31:17] Speaker 4: when you are linked to this, you know this is
[1:31:19] Speaker 4: this is a big deal. And we see this a lot.
[1:31:21] Speaker 4: We see this a lot with like in in a
[1:31:24] Speaker 4: lot of cultures where where like you know, things are
[1:31:27] Speaker 4: are really held on to which which are like you know,
[1:31:30] Speaker 4: we must not forget, and like there's there's a truth
[1:31:34] Speaker 4: to that, but then there's also like a like I'm
[1:31:36] Speaker 4: not moving on. I'm not moving on, and so as
[1:31:39] Speaker 4: we're seeing like a lot of the a lot of
[1:31:42] Speaker 4: the past being erased, Like if you want to get
[1:31:46] Speaker 4: down into like a psychological spiritual level, it's like you're
[1:31:49] Speaker 4: being freed up. There's there's space being created. Like everything
[1:31:53] Speaker 4: is new. Guess what, that was probably a lie to
[1:31:56] Speaker 4: begin with anyway, and now we're making it even easier
[1:31:59] Speaker 4: to create a new one. And guess what. Even else,
[1:32:02] Speaker 4: you're not going through this shit by yourself because everyone
[1:32:05] Speaker 4: is in the same boat, because there's a point in
[1:32:07] Speaker 4: every human being's life, like you know, probably between like
[1:32:11] Speaker 4: forty two to fifty two is in one aspect and
[1:32:14] Speaker 4: then like it continues like up until like seventy and
[1:32:16] Speaker 4: then like wherever it is at seventy is where it stays.
[1:32:20] Speaker 4: Where we go through a reckoning where we go through
[1:32:23] Speaker 4: a reckoning, and so that usually happens within each individual's
[1:32:28] Speaker 4: personal journey. But what they've done is they put everyone
[1:32:31] Speaker 4: on the same timeline right now, and so because of that,
[1:32:35] Speaker 4: you know, there's a there is a you know, this
[1:32:39] Speaker 4: idea of herd immunity is inverted. The herd immunity. The
[1:32:42] Speaker 4: truth of the herd immunity has to do with the
[1:32:44] Speaker 4: interconnectedness of humanity. Like that's the truth. That's the truth.
[1:32:49] Speaker 4: And when we're all strong, we can feel that. And
[1:32:52] Speaker 4: so like when we all go through something at the
[1:32:54] Speaker 4: same time, like there is a strength there as well,
[1:32:58] Speaker 4: but there's like, you know, we have that opportunity. One
[1:33:01] Speaker 4: of the things which which I've been thinking about, or
[1:33:04] Speaker 4: which has been in my mind a lot recently, is
[1:33:09] Speaker 4: the whole adage of like, you know, if you only
[1:33:11] Speaker 4: knew how powerful we were, Like that used to be
[1:33:15] Speaker 4: a phrase which I was very familiar with, which I
[1:33:18] Speaker 4: would think of coming from like like like the very
[1:33:20] Speaker 4: new age sort of like you know, we're these multidimensional beings.
[1:33:24] Speaker 4: And I'm not saying we're not multidimensional beings, but a
[1:33:26] Speaker 4: lot of that just always felt like very fluffy to
[1:33:28] Speaker 4: me and I'd roll my eyes. But I'm thinking about
[1:33:31] Speaker 4: that now in a in a different perspective, and I
[1:33:35] Speaker 4: think this is one of the neat things of experiences,
[1:33:37] Speaker 4: because you could go back to how you used to
[1:33:38] Speaker 4: think of things and like, wow, look at how I've changed,
[1:33:41] Speaker 4: And I'm really looking at what has been done to
[1:33:44] Speaker 4: humanity in terms of shaping our consciousness, like from the
[1:33:48] Speaker 4: endoctrination of education, like all like billboards, Like you, we
[1:33:53] Speaker 4: don't even have any idea what it's like to not
[1:33:55] Speaker 4: be bombarded with billboards and stop signs and like all
[1:33:58] Speaker 4: this sort of stuff. And so coming to this the
[1:34:01] Speaker 4: the reverse conclusion of like, well, that's a lot of
[1:34:04] Speaker 4: fucking effort. Why would they be Why would that much
[1:34:08] Speaker 4: effort go into this? Like what requires this much effort?
[1:34:12] Speaker 4: And then I go back to that statement. I'm like,
[1:34:14] Speaker 4: oh my god, they don't know how powerful we are.
[1:34:16] Speaker 4: And I used to take that like like I like
[1:34:18] Speaker 4: I took it seriously, But now I'm taking it seriously
[1:34:22] Speaker 4: in a different way, with like almost more of a
[1:34:24] Speaker 4: curiosity as opposed to like, oh it means like you know,
[1:34:28] Speaker 4: this multi dimensional being is like well, well what does
[1:34:30] Speaker 4: that mean? Like what happens if we are not like
[1:34:34] Speaker 4: shaped And this is why I'm like going back to like,
[1:34:37] Speaker 4: let me start to deconstruct, like what the calendar is,
[1:34:40] Speaker 4: let me deconstruct what time is, and like, let me
[1:34:43] Speaker 4: also be realistic and like, how do I continue to
[1:34:46] Speaker 4: work with it so that I can tell I could
[1:34:49] Speaker 4: line up my timing with you so that we could
[1:34:51] Speaker 4: do the show. Like I understand the purpose of this stuff.
[1:34:54] Speaker 4: So I find that very exciting. I find that very exciting.
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: That is, and earlier you mean that there's you've noticed
[1:35:01] Speaker 1: some collective changes and people in the environment, and I
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: believe that there is a major change probably even coming
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: up soon cosmically based on the place in space that
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: we are. I've had a few researchers on lately. I've
[1:35:19] Speaker 1: had Ben Davidson from the Mobile Observatory Project saying that
[1:35:25] Speaker 1: we could even possibly see some major events in our
[1:35:29] Speaker 1: lifetime coming from space because of the Sun, the activity
[1:35:32] Speaker 1: from the Sun. And I think that could possibly be
[1:35:35] Speaker 1: dictating a lot of the weird things that have been
[1:35:38] Speaker 1: happening on our planet.
[1:35:40] Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
[1:35:41] Speaker 4: I think that's exactly right. I think that is exactly right.
[1:35:47] Speaker 4: And and you know, going back to all of this
[1:35:50] Speaker 4: this stuff which I'm saying is I'm I think that
[1:35:56] Speaker 4: that's what what I'm seeing in my life, and I
[1:35:59] Speaker 4: think that's what we're seeing. The timing of these stories
[1:36:02] Speaker 4: that are being presented by the media and the deconstruction
[1:36:07] Speaker 4: is and going back to the like you know, what
[1:36:10] Speaker 4: we were exposed to as children and erasing all of
[1:36:12] Speaker 4: that is to be able to experience slash witness this
[1:36:19] Speaker 4: without a predetermined uh storyline of what it is?
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: You know that?
[1:36:28] Speaker 4: That's that to me, is is is where the the
[1:36:34] Speaker 4: real interesting value comes from or or or or at
[1:36:39] Speaker 4: least this at least this being immensely conscious with the
[1:36:45] Speaker 4: story in which that's going to be interpreted. And when
[1:36:49] Speaker 4: I say story, I just mean like the lens, the logic, Oh,
[1:36:52] Speaker 4: this is happening, this, you know, this is the this
[1:36:54] Speaker 4: is the hopey prophecy, this is the this is the
[1:36:57] Speaker 4: fifth Son, this is the you know whatever storyline like
[1:37:00] Speaker 4: if that resonates at least recognized like it's it's a
[1:37:03] Speaker 4: storyline explaining something greater than a story. So Ben Day,
[1:37:10] Speaker 4: is that the guy from uh what was its suspicious observers?
[1:37:14] Speaker 3: Yes?
[1:37:14] Speaker 4: God? So like like I go back like ten years
[1:37:18] Speaker 4: watching it like it's probably been like a handful years
[1:37:20] Speaker 4: since I've seen that, but I remember, like back in
[1:37:22] Speaker 4: the twenty twelve, like like when this guy was first
[1:37:24] Speaker 4: coming up and like all of those sort of like
[1:37:28] Speaker 4: parts that were going in into my mind and then
[1:37:30] Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember, like comments was it Eleanin?
[1:37:33] Speaker 4: And like that whole time, Like it's seeing all of that,
[1:37:37] Speaker 4: so like like living through those experiences of like, oh,
[1:37:41] Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. I remember exactly like when I don't
[1:37:46] Speaker 4: remember was it Ice? On the other one, there was
[1:37:48] Speaker 4: a second comments comment and I was like, today's day,
[1:37:51] Speaker 4: it's going to hit this on today's day. It's gonna happen.
[1:37:54] Speaker 3: And I remember.
[1:37:55] Speaker 4: Exactly where I was and then I and I was
[1:37:57] Speaker 4: telling everyone, I'm like, all right, well, you know, I
[1:38:00] Speaker 4: don't want to freak anyone out, bar you might want
[1:38:02] Speaker 4: to look up in the sky. In about twenty minutes,
[1:38:05] Speaker 4: and then like when nothing happened. So it's like I've
[1:38:08] Speaker 4: kind of been through that, but I also but but
[1:38:10] Speaker 4: there is stuff happening. There is, you know. And so
[1:38:13] Speaker 4: the fact that Ben who's who's like an expert in
[1:38:15] Speaker 4: his field, right, the dude's a genius and the way
[1:38:18] Speaker 4: he explains things or points things out. You know, I'm
[1:38:21] Speaker 4: giving him the benefit of doubt that that, you know, yeah, say,
[1:38:25] Speaker 4: benefit the doubt you gotta give me. But so, what
[1:38:29] Speaker 4: is he saying is going to happen?
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: What is he? What? What is what?
[1:38:32] Speaker 4: What's not just him?
[1:38:33] Speaker 2: There's a few others that.
[1:38:34] Speaker 4: What are they? What is capturing their attention?
[1:38:38] Speaker 3: The Sun?
[1:38:38] Speaker 1: The solar minimum really uh that in combination with our
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: very weak magnetic field and the fact that it is moving,
[1:38:47] Speaker 1: it's it's migrating north. Uh, the South Atlantic anomaly, which
[1:38:52] Speaker 1: is a major magnetic anomaly, uh, right next to f
[1:38:56] Speaker 1: South Africa, and it's pulling our magnetic field and eventually
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: it could cause a reversal of the magnetic field, which
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: first of all, the first mag news about that is
[1:39:05] Speaker 1: no power, no electricity, no internet for god knows how long.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: And that's a big enough problem as it is, you know,
[1:39:12] Speaker 1: not to mention possibility of solar flares once our you know,
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: magnetosphere is so weak it can't protect the planet anymore.
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: So these are you know, the possibilities that they're worried
[1:39:22] Speaker 1: about within the next even five to ten years.
[1:39:27] Speaker 4: Okay, So so tho those have been topics which which
[1:39:31] Speaker 4: have been followed for at least ten years, like we've
[1:39:33] Speaker 4: been watching those things. This is like so I was wondering,
[1:39:36] Speaker 4: like did they see something else? But like my senses
[1:39:39] Speaker 4: like this goes back to like the UFO phenomenon of
[1:39:41] Speaker 4: what like this story and like you know, is this
[1:39:43] Speaker 4: going to be Project Bluebeam or what have you it?
[1:39:47] Speaker 4: And like the whole idea like why are they spraying
[1:39:49] Speaker 4: the skies? You know it's to cover that like and
[1:39:52] Speaker 4: and the whole NEWBIU. I like definitely went down the
[1:39:54] Speaker 4: de bureau thing, Like I'm still open with that. That's
[1:39:56] Speaker 4: one of my favorite stories. But like something is is
[1:40:00] Speaker 4: is moving us towards like seeing something with our own
[1:40:04] Speaker 4: eyes and and that that makes that that's a story
[1:40:10] Speaker 4: which which which I like to which makes sense to
[1:40:13] Speaker 4: me or like one of those like I don't know
[1:40:15] Speaker 4: if that's gonna happen, but you know, I'm kinda I'm
[1:40:18] Speaker 4: eighteen percent open to that. And this is what I
[1:40:22] Speaker 4: think this is. This is Mike's opinion. I'm gonna show
[1:40:24] Speaker 4: you you didn't ask me Mike's opinion, but Mike's gonna
[1:40:26] Speaker 4: give you his opinion. You mentioned the the the the
[1:40:33] Speaker 4: coming down of electricity and the Internet and all of
[1:40:36] Speaker 4: that sort of stuff as it relates to magnetic reversal.
[1:40:42] Speaker 4: And were you living in Florida when well it was
[1:40:45] Speaker 4: in Tampa like what like eight years ago when like
[1:40:47] Speaker 4: they had to redo the airport like directionals because the
[1:40:51] Speaker 4: magnet heard but you.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Know, so like back to Louisiana at that time.
[1:40:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like I mean, so this is this has
[1:40:57] Speaker 4: been this has been uh talked about and witnessed and
[1:41:01] Speaker 4: experience for some time. And it's definitely heat heating up.
[1:41:06] Speaker 4: So so there are a couple things like I personally
[1:41:09] Speaker 4: think that electricity, Internet, all of these things that we've
[1:41:14] Speaker 4: been born into and we've become uh uh connected.
[1:41:18] Speaker 3: To like.
[1:41:20] Speaker 4: All of it. All of it, like in every single
[1:41:22] Speaker 4: way is to our uh it doesn't serve any of us.
[1:41:27] Speaker 4: It doesn't serve us. And so like having that is
[1:41:30] Speaker 4: just even a storyline in the mind if this does occur,
[1:41:33] Speaker 4: like you know, I'm already in that position. But that
[1:41:36] Speaker 4: being said, how the human being works is we connect.
[1:41:39] Speaker 4: We have to connect. We have an inner world and
[1:41:41] Speaker 4: there's an outer world, and that outer world is good,
[1:41:44] Speaker 4: You're gonna connect to it. But you have some degree
[1:41:46] Speaker 4: of control as to what part of the outer world
[1:41:51] Speaker 4: you're connecting to. And so that's why it's like going
[1:41:54] Speaker 4: back to like, this is why they the rituals are
[1:41:57] Speaker 4: half for us to see, because they want to capture
[1:41:59] Speaker 4: our attention. Rich are magnetic. They're gonna pull us in
[1:42:02] Speaker 4: and we're gonna watch and we're gonna connect. We're gonna
[1:42:04] Speaker 4: we're gonna line into it. So like when I when
[1:42:08] Speaker 4: I say like, I'm not trying to sound like you know, uh,
[1:42:11] Speaker 4: when I when I'm about what I'm gonna say, I'm
[1:42:13] Speaker 4: not trying to sound like in the typical stereo the
[1:42:18] Speaker 4: stereotypical way that this is mentioned. Like, I'm looking at
[1:42:21] Speaker 4: this in a very for at least for me, in
[1:42:23] Speaker 4: a very very fresh way. Is connecting with the natural world. Again,
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: the natural world's mystery. I you know, I don't think
[1:42:30] Speaker 4: the natural worlds what what we think it is, but
[1:42:32] Speaker 4: it is the most real which we have, and it
[1:42:36] Speaker 4: is my sense, it is my sense to things.
[1:42:39] Speaker 1: That that.
[1:42:42] Speaker 4: In the event whether a purposeful or an or an
[1:42:46] Speaker 4: environmental collapse of those systems, it is through the connection, uh,
[1:42:54] Speaker 4: in the natural world. And we could go a little
[1:42:56] Speaker 4: bit more into like what this means in the working
[1:42:58] Speaker 4: knowledge that will move people to where they need to go.
[1:43:04] Speaker 4: And I mean that in the most practical sense, Like
[1:43:06] Speaker 4: I'm not like suggesting some sort of uh uh road
[1:43:10] Speaker 4: warrior uh uh, post apocalyptic future and like you know
[1:43:15] Speaker 4: that we're gonna we're gonna no, I think that that
[1:43:18] Speaker 4: it's it's going to be more close to what we
[1:43:21] Speaker 4: understand civilization to be. But but whether it's with the
[1:43:24] Speaker 4: right people in the right place doing the right things,
[1:43:28] Speaker 4: like uh that is going to be driven through the
[1:43:31] Speaker 4: natural world. And so what's happening so much, particularly in
[1:43:36] Speaker 4: this past year to like connect everyone, like by by
[1:43:39] Speaker 4: shutting everything down and making the only connection or the
[1:43:42] Speaker 4: primary connection people would have with other peoples through technology,
[1:43:45] Speaker 4: Like you know, it's further taking people away from or
[1:43:48] Speaker 4: further ingraty ingratiating them to to what we're calling the
[1:43:52] Speaker 4: Internet and all that that that may be. You know,
[1:43:56] Speaker 4: when that goes away, that's gonna be shocked to a
[1:43:58] Speaker 4: lot of people. But the natural world and the currents
[1:44:05] Speaker 4: of the natural world, I think is the the as
[1:44:07] Speaker 4: a window shuts or a door shuts, a window opens,
[1:44:10] Speaker 4: and we're gonna see that. And I don't think everyone's
[1:44:12] Speaker 4: gonna follow that. I don't think that's the case at all.
[1:44:15] Speaker 4: But I think for those if this, if this unfolds,
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna unfold, you know, and I
[1:44:21] Speaker 4: think sooner or later, whether it's gonna be exactly something
[1:44:24] Speaker 4: we see in the sky, But that does make sense. Uh,
[1:44:29] Speaker 4: We're gonna go Everything we need is going to be right,
[1:44:33] Speaker 4: is going to be right where it's not gonna be
[1:44:36] Speaker 4: hard to get. That is part of the storyline of
[1:44:39] Speaker 4: like limitation of like you know, you need to have
[1:44:42] Speaker 4: two years worth of food, and you need to have batteries,
[1:44:45] Speaker 4: and you need to have no no, we don't need
[1:44:47] Speaker 4: electricity at all. We and and this is how we
[1:44:52] Speaker 4: erase all of that and we begin to really step
[1:44:55] Speaker 4: into other ways of of what it means to be
[1:44:58] Speaker 4: a human being, right, And it.
[1:45:02] Speaker 1: Makes man, it makes me think of the simulation theory.
[1:45:05] Speaker 1: How you were saying, you know, you kept waiting for
[1:45:09] Speaker 1: you know, these catastrophic major events to come throughout your lifetime,
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: whenever someone would be talking about it. You know, I
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: went through the same things Planet X, you know, the
[1:45:18] Speaker 1: Great Alignment of twocenty seventeen, all these you know, supposed
[1:45:22] Speaker 1: mays oh was a crazy alignment. Yeah, all of these
[1:45:26] Speaker 1: major supposed to be you know, world ending events that
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: just keep going. You know, the world just keeps going
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: as these time as time passes. It makes me think of,
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: you know, if we're in this major simulation and you know,
[1:45:38] Speaker 1: say it is time for a major reset, they were
[1:45:41] Speaker 1: just like a video game for some weird alien and
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: he's just so sick of the way things are going.
[1:45:46] Speaker 1: He just you know, presses that reset button and that's
[1:45:49] Speaker 1: that's the way, you know, we have a magnetic reversal
[1:45:52] Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, it makes me think
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: that you know, somehow this is all you know, controlled
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: or by some higher level and connected through some kind
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: of you know, simulated reality.
[1:46:07] Speaker 2: Or something like that. It just always my mind always
[1:46:10] Speaker 2: goes there.
[1:46:11] Speaker 4: So that's an interesting topic. And when I was sang
[1:46:16] Speaker 4: before like the mystery, like you know, the human experience
[1:46:20] Speaker 4: is at the heart is a mystery. We don't know
[1:46:22] Speaker 4: who we are, we don't know how we got here,
[1:46:24] Speaker 4: we don't know what we're supposed to do. Despite their
[1:46:25] Speaker 4: being all these great stories which answer that, if you're
[1:46:28] Speaker 4: being honest, you're going to come to that point and
[1:46:33] Speaker 4: a lot of people come to that point and they
[1:46:34] Speaker 4: try to solve you know, they're like, I, you know,
[1:46:36] Speaker 4: I'm really going to go and try to solve it.
[1:46:38] Speaker 4: I want to know what the answer is. I'm very
[1:46:41] Speaker 4: comfortable with just saying like it's a mystery. I don't
[1:46:43] Speaker 4: think it's meant to be solved. And my sense is,
[1:46:49] Speaker 4: particularly as it relates to simulation theory. So if you'll
[1:46:57] Speaker 4: take a step back, so we see like a lot
[1:46:59] Speaker 4: of different and you know, there are other stories that
[1:47:02] Speaker 4: were told of other cultures where they talk about like
[1:47:06] Speaker 4: just regular baseline reality, natural world reality, like you know,
[1:47:10] Speaker 4: it's it's maya, it's the illusion, it's dream time, it's
[1:47:14] Speaker 4: you know, you're made of atoms and atoms are empty
[1:47:17] Speaker 4: and so you're not solid like all that sort of stuff.
[1:47:20] Speaker 4: And I think the simulation, but calling it the simulation, uh,
[1:47:25] Speaker 4: and when they introduce that as an idea, like it's
[1:47:28] Speaker 4: it's in that same vein, it's in that same vein,
[1:47:32] Speaker 4: it's pointing to the same fact as like it ain't
[1:47:34] Speaker 4: what you see. But when they say simulation, uh, that
[1:47:38] Speaker 4: is and this is my opinion, is it's to shape
[1:47:42] Speaker 4: the way which which the person understands that as an
[1:47:46] Speaker 4: idea and they want it to be shaped in a
[1:47:48] Speaker 4: computer language context. And even more so, like this idea
[1:47:54] Speaker 4: of like this being a simulation or you being a simulation,
[1:47:58] Speaker 4: because it's a it's a bit of a double double bind.
[1:48:00] Speaker 4: It's a double bind. And what a double bind means
[1:48:03] Speaker 4: is you're pulled in two directions, like the binding is
[1:48:05] Speaker 4: pulling in opposite direction, so you know, you're, you're, you're,
[1:48:09] Speaker 4: you can't move, and it's a it's a very strong
[1:48:12] Speaker 4: hypnotic technique to create psychological double binds because it holds
[1:48:17] Speaker 4: people in a place of not being able to move.
[1:48:22] Speaker 4: And so when they start like introducing the idea of
[1:48:25] Speaker 4: of this being a simulation, uh, you automatically begin to
[1:48:31] Speaker 4: to see the second version of yourself separate from yourself,
[1:48:36] Speaker 4: which is a big part of like how this false
[1:48:39] Speaker 4: reality works is because it creates all of these secondary
[1:48:44] Speaker 4: second cities, like you of of reality, which you then
[1:48:48] Speaker 4: think of as reality, so that you miss the big picture.
[1:48:52] Speaker 4: Like that's the every part of of of culture we
[1:48:55] Speaker 4: can look at that way, and part of psychology, like
[1:48:57] Speaker 4: you know, that's what the personality is. You're not your name,
[1:49:01] Speaker 4: You're not like these experiences but we identify with this
[1:49:04] Speaker 4: falseness and so all of this is false. So when
[1:49:07] Speaker 4: I hear that, like the simulation theory, like I think
[1:49:11] Speaker 4: it's both like part of like their storyline of making
[1:49:14] Speaker 4: everything so computer oriented and and also like it has
[1:49:19] Speaker 4: this psychological impact, which which kind of is like, well,
[1:49:23] Speaker 4: am I real? Is this not real? Is this not
[1:49:25] Speaker 4: a real thing? But that being said, I think it's
[1:49:29] Speaker 4: probably an accurate model of maybe what this is, Like
[1:49:33] Speaker 4: there's something whatever it is, this mystery of life is
[1:49:36] Speaker 4: like like I think that's a fair analogy, like, yeah,
[1:49:39] Speaker 4: it's getting a reboot, like it's changing. And this is
[1:49:41] Speaker 4: where we hear like you know, it's the fifth Son.
[1:49:44] Speaker 4: It's like something's changing on the fundamental level. I call
[1:49:48] Speaker 4: it the fundamental level. But like you know, maybe it's
[1:49:51] Speaker 4: an operating system. Maybe it's like you know, a whole
[1:49:53] Speaker 4: new game. Like I like those are as analogies. I
[1:49:57] Speaker 4: think they're very just, but I'm not willing to to
[1:50:01] Speaker 4: go there is like this is what I think is happening.
[1:50:03] Speaker 4: I'm I'm just sitting in the mystery. I'm like it's changing,
[1:50:07] Speaker 4: and I think that that what you're describing is accurate,
[1:50:10] Speaker 4: and and there may be even be there's gonna be
[1:50:14] Speaker 4: uh a cleaning of how of house you know, maybe
[1:50:19] Speaker 4: that's kind of happening as well. And what I'm talking
[1:50:23] Speaker 4: about and what what you're talking about in terms of
[1:50:25] Speaker 4: like what do you do during this time?
[1:50:27] Speaker 3: Uh?
[1:50:28] Speaker 4: You know, there there seemingly is like some carryover. And
[1:50:33] Speaker 4: what I think we're talking about is what the carryover
[1:50:36] Speaker 4: is going to look like. Who are the people who
[1:50:38] Speaker 4: are recognizing that I'm not going to go down that storyline.
[1:50:41] Speaker 4: Who are the people who are beginning to think different ways?
[1:50:43] Speaker 4: Who are who are you gravitating to? And that's and
[1:50:48] Speaker 4: and and they're gonna be uh, you know, if we're
[1:50:50] Speaker 4: gonna go this this like the the the the next version,
[1:50:54] Speaker 4: you know, those are gonna be the carryovers, and they're
[1:50:56] Speaker 4: gonna be the ones who are going to be part
[1:50:58] Speaker 4: of wherever this goes. That's my That's one story.
[1:51:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be.
[1:51:04] Speaker 1: And I've noticed some some changes and things that are
[1:51:08] Speaker 1: leading me to certain places in my life. Uh, some
[1:51:12] Speaker 1: pretty profound things that I can't ignore. And you mentioned
[1:51:16] Speaker 1: you've noticed some collective changes and even in the environment,
[1:51:20] Speaker 1: you know, one of one of the things, speaking of
[1:51:22] Speaker 1: the sun, I noticed changes in the sun. I noticed
[1:51:24] Speaker 1: changes in the color of the sun. And when I
[1:51:26] Speaker 1: was a kid, I thought it used to look orange.
[1:51:28] Speaker 1: Now I think it looks like a white light bulb.
[1:51:31] Speaker 1: And I've got validation that there the sun is indeed
[1:51:33] Speaker 1: changed colors. Uh what what kind of changes are you
[1:51:37] Speaker 1: noticing around you lately that are kind of uh, pretty
[1:51:40] Speaker 1: profound for you.
[1:51:41] Speaker 3: So the.
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: There have been a couple of days, like I'm very
[1:51:48] Speaker 4: observant of the sun, and particularly like what you're saying,
[1:51:50] Speaker 4: the color and there's, there's and and I try to
[1:51:53] Speaker 4: understand it like in location, like whereas it's setting and rise,
[1:51:55] Speaker 4: and I like to follow that too. But there have
[1:51:57] Speaker 4: been like two days in particular in the last year
[1:52:00] Speaker 4: where I was like, this sun looks different than sometime.
[1:52:03] Speaker 3: I've seen it.
[1:52:04] Speaker 4: So I'm just kidding. I'm supporting what you're saying with
[1:52:07] Speaker 4: the sun. The most interesting thing right now, which which
[1:52:12] Speaker 4: is just like you know, it both has me tickled
[1:52:16] Speaker 4: but then also curious, like tickled and curious. So I
[1:52:23] Speaker 4: got like a I got like a I got like
[1:52:26] Speaker 4: a front porch, and I like to sit on my
[1:52:28] Speaker 4: front porch in the morning and I like to drink
[1:52:30] Speaker 4: my morning drink, right, I like to drink my hot coffee,
[1:52:34] Speaker 4: and I like to do it early in the morning.
[1:52:37] Speaker 4: And it's somewhat of a busy road which I'm on.
[1:52:41] Speaker 4: But where the actual piece of property the house is
[1:52:44] Speaker 4: built on, this is like you know, this is like
[1:52:46] Speaker 4: a nineteen fifties kind of subdivision sort of thing, like
[1:52:50] Speaker 4: to picture where it is, you know, relatively high density
[1:52:56] Speaker 4: for a suburb. You know, I'm about ten minutes outside
[1:52:58] Speaker 4: of Lancaster City. I happen to be like in a
[1:53:03] Speaker 4: really high concentration of trees. In fact, where I am
[1:53:06] Speaker 4: has amazing trees, has amazing trees. It's like known for
[1:53:09] Speaker 4: their trees. So but where I am in this high
[1:53:11] Speaker 4: concentration trees, there's like a lot of birds. And I've
[1:53:13] Speaker 4: been in this house for about a year and a
[1:53:15] Speaker 4: half now and uh as I've been sitting out on
[1:53:19] Speaker 4: the on the porch this spring more so than ever before.
[1:53:24] Speaker 4: Like I've been paying attention to the birds. I've been
[1:53:26] Speaker 4: paying attention to the birds like I've always paid attention
[1:53:29] Speaker 4: but like not but but like it's it's different now,
[1:53:32] Speaker 4: it's different and like I uh, I mean, of course
[1:53:36] Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk to them, like you hear them singing,
[1:53:38] Speaker 4: and I'm noticing of them and I can't I don't whistle. Well,
[1:53:41] Speaker 4: so I'm doing just like like they'll whistle, and I'm
[1:53:45] Speaker 4: doing this whole sort of thing. So I've been doing
[1:53:48] Speaker 4: this for like I don't know, like a month now,
[1:53:50] Speaker 4: and I'm beginning to like, you know, certain birds are
[1:53:53] Speaker 4: coming back to me and like, you know, there there's
[1:53:55] Speaker 4: like a trust which is happening, Like some of them
[1:53:58] Speaker 4: are are walking up this sidewalk towards me. Like none
[1:54:02] Speaker 4: of them have like sat on my shoulder or anything. Uh,
[1:54:04] Speaker 4: but what's happened in the last week. This has happened
[1:54:07] Speaker 4: three times. This has happened three times with three different birds.
[1:54:12] Speaker 4: When I'm lying in my bed. In my bedroom, a
[1:54:16] Speaker 4: bird comes to the window and just flies like holds
[1:54:20] Speaker 4: like that same elevation in front of the window and
[1:54:24] Speaker 4: is like tapping on the window. It's happened with a cardinal,
[1:54:27] Speaker 4: It's happened with a dove, and it's happened with a robin.
[1:54:31] Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, you know, this has not happened before.
[1:54:34] Speaker 4: I have seen birds tap on a window before, obviously,
[1:54:37] Speaker 4: but not like this, and not with this beginning of
[1:54:39] Speaker 4: this connection with the birds. And even more interesting, I
[1:54:42] Speaker 4: do a regular show with Emma Lee Moyer and like
[1:54:46] Speaker 4: maybe two three weeks ago, like she brought up this
[1:54:48] Speaker 4: idea of like there was this this website which and
[1:54:53] Speaker 4: this you know, quote unquote movement of birds aren't real,
[1:54:57] Speaker 4: Birds aren't We had like a whole show just talking
[1:54:59] Speaker 4: about birds aren't real. And so now all of this
[1:55:02] Speaker 4: stuff is happening and I'm witnessing it, and so as
[1:55:05] Speaker 4: I said, like, the only thing I got is like
[1:55:07] Speaker 4: I'm tickled. I'm like, this is making me laugh because
[1:55:09] Speaker 4: I'm talking about birds and now the birds are knocking
[1:55:11] Speaker 4: on my window. And then and then I'm curious. I'm like,
[1:55:15] Speaker 4: you know, not jumping to any stories because I'm hearing
[1:55:17] Speaker 4: all these different stories, like you know, I got my
[1:55:19] Speaker 4: Ted Andrew's book, like you know, what does this mean?
[1:55:22] Speaker 4: But then I'm like, but birds aren't weird. But then
[1:55:24] Speaker 4: like everything's changing, and so I'm sitting in this like
[1:55:27] Speaker 4: a position of curiosity of like not knowing, but like
[1:55:33] Speaker 4: but like really interestingly. All right, well, like where is
[1:55:35] Speaker 4: this gonna go? Where is this gonna take me? I'm
[1:55:38] Speaker 4: seeing stuff like that. Uh, here's another interesting thing, like
[1:55:47] Speaker 4: I have like a subscribe star page, and so like,
[1:55:50] Speaker 4: if you're gonna be on my subscribe star page, you
[1:55:52] Speaker 4: probably like resonate with like a lot of my work,
[1:55:55] Speaker 4: or at least the particular way I see things. You
[1:55:59] Speaker 4: like to hear the stories. And so that's a small group,
[1:56:02] Speaker 4: you know, maybe they're like eighty people there. And one
[1:56:06] Speaker 4: of the guys who I just go through the subscribe
[1:56:08] Speaker 4: stir In fact, I did a session with him. I
[1:56:10] Speaker 4: do someone on one work, but he didn't tell me this,
[1:56:13] Speaker 4: but he was gonna come up. I do a lot
[1:56:15] Speaker 4: of work about this one specific place called the fortieth
[1:56:18] Speaker 4: Parallel on the Susquehanna River, and I wrote this book
[1:56:21] Speaker 4: about these four different locations on there which you can
[1:56:23] Speaker 4: access and I kind of describe it. So I used
[1:56:26] Speaker 4: to live right on that spot. I could walk out
[1:56:28] Speaker 4: of where I used to live and ride on my
[1:56:29] Speaker 4: bike and ride to it. But now I don't have
[1:56:31] Speaker 4: that luxury and like ten minutes away by car, so
[1:56:34] Speaker 4: I got to put a bike in a car and
[1:56:35] Speaker 4: like all that sort of stuff. So for the very
[1:56:38] Speaker 4: first time in uh since since it got warm, since
[1:56:44] Speaker 4: the spring, I'm like, I'm gonna go put my bike
[1:56:45] Speaker 4: in the car, i'm and go ride out and I
[1:56:49] Speaker 4: run into in one of these spots. It's you know,
[1:56:52] Speaker 4: I'm not going there regularly. I run into one of
[1:56:55] Speaker 4: this guy who is from the Subscribe Star group and
[1:56:59] Speaker 4: who I did a session with, who doesn't live in
[1:57:01] Speaker 4: the area, who like, we had no idea. He didn't
[1:57:04] Speaker 4: know that I was coming up to this spot, and
[1:57:07] Speaker 4: I didn't know he was coming up to this spot.
[1:57:09] Speaker 4: And the place is twenty miles long. It would have
[1:57:13] Speaker 4: been amazingly easy to not run into each other even
[1:57:16] Speaker 4: if we were there at the same time. But like
[1:57:18] Speaker 4: it lined up perfectly and some seeing like this level
[1:57:22] Speaker 4: of synchronicity, this level of like you know, of of
[1:57:25] Speaker 4: of happening. But then at the same time, I'm also
[1:57:29] Speaker 4: seeing like weird stuff with with technology like that that beeping,
[1:57:34] Speaker 4: like stuff like that is going on. I've been.
[1:57:40] Speaker 3: This is weird.
[1:57:42] Speaker 4: The more vocal I talk, like, you know, I'm like,
[1:57:44] Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't I don't like the
[1:57:46] Speaker 4: I don't like the the the doing my connections over
[1:57:50] Speaker 4: the internet and like voicing it and voicing why like
[1:57:54] Speaker 4: routers stop working, Like you know, my phone, my phone
[1:57:58] Speaker 4: is so jacked, and I kind of like it. Like
[1:58:00] Speaker 4: you know, I'm like I don't. I don't want to
[1:58:03] Speaker 4: get a new phone, and like you know, I understand,
[1:58:05] Speaker 4: like this is my connection in a certain way. But
[1:58:08] Speaker 4: I almost feel like I'm in this, like I'm walking
[1:58:10] Speaker 4: a line right now. I'm seeing all of this stuff happening,
[1:58:13] Speaker 4: and I'm doing it in this in this very uh
[1:58:17] Speaker 4: which is different in a different way than before, in
[1:58:19] Speaker 4: this very curious way, or more curious than I had
[1:58:23] Speaker 4: been in the past.
[1:58:24] Speaker 1: Here's a little synchronicity to kind of add to that.
[1:58:28] Speaker 1: I've had a few paranormal researchers on telling me about
[1:58:32] Speaker 1: how Pennsylvania is just a huge paranormal hotspot. You know,
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: I've heard of other places around the United States, but
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: I never really thought of Pennsylvania being a really big
[1:58:41] Speaker 1: paranormal hotspot. But been telling me about all the crazy
[1:58:44] Speaker 1: things cryptids, paranormal UFOs, things that happen and in the
[1:58:49] Speaker 1: furrounding areas of Pennsylvania.
[1:58:51] Speaker 2: Have you noticed that as you've been And.
[1:58:56] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, and like this is I didn't know that.
[1:58:59] Speaker 3: I didn't.
[1:58:59] Speaker 4: I born in Pennsylvania. Like life brought me to Pennsylvania.
[1:59:04] Speaker 4: Life brought me to like certain parts in pennsylvaniahere, I
[1:59:07] Speaker 4: was like, there's no an in hell, I'm ever gonna
[1:59:08] Speaker 4: live here. And I moved there, and like all of
[1:59:10] Speaker 4: these things kind of like unfolded in my life in
[1:59:13] Speaker 4: this mysterious way. So and I don't think this is
[1:59:16] Speaker 4: unique to Pennsylvania. But what I think is unique is
[1:59:18] Speaker 4: there are a lot of places, uh probably throughout the world.
[1:59:21] Speaker 4: I'm gonna focus upon the United States which are kind
[1:59:24] Speaker 4: of like written off, and those those tend to be
[1:59:28] Speaker 4: like really really like probably significant for a variety of reasons, uh,
[1:59:33] Speaker 4: particularly like you know, I'm thinking of Arkansas or Ohio
[1:59:37] Speaker 4: or like you know these kind of like uh places
[1:59:40] Speaker 4: where like no one really thinks of. But Pennsylvania is
[1:59:43] Speaker 4: one of them. Like geologically, Pennsylvania's in a different way
[1:59:48] Speaker 4: than where you are. So when we think of like
[1:59:51] Speaker 4: geological uniqueness, we think of like the Southwest, or we
[1:59:55] Speaker 4: think of the Rockies. We think, you know, that's that's
[1:59:57] Speaker 4: that's kind of like how it's positioned. So so Pennsylvania's
[2:00:01] Speaker 4: geological uniqueness is immensely uh special. I've gone into that,
[2:00:07] Speaker 4: particularly when I went into all of my work in Scranton,
[2:00:11] Speaker 4: Like all of the strange things in Scranton, and my senses,
[2:00:14] Speaker 4: it's because it's built upon this this huge geological anomaly
[2:00:18] Speaker 4: which has found nowhere else on earth. But we see
[2:00:21] Speaker 4: that with with all of the stone, the stones that
[2:00:24] Speaker 4: are found in Pennsylvania. Like the way that they tell
[2:00:26] Speaker 4: us what happened is during the Ice Age, the glaciers
[2:00:32] Speaker 4: as they expanded from from the north, they almost acted
[2:00:36] Speaker 4: like a bulldozer scraping that top inch of of top
[2:00:41] Speaker 4: soil off of the ground. And they did that all
[2:00:44] Speaker 4: the way across North America, and then they began to
[2:00:47] Speaker 4: recede when they were what we think of is Pennsylvania
[2:00:50] Speaker 4: right now. So like you have a mixture of all
[2:00:53] Speaker 4: of this, of all of the geel, of all of
[2:00:55] Speaker 4: the that happening like in the geography or the geology
[2:00:59] Speaker 4: excuse me. Plus like you know, there's a connection between
[2:01:03] Speaker 4: what you find in Pennsylvania the geology, and what you
[2:01:07] Speaker 4: see on the western coast of Africa. Like you know,
[2:01:10] Speaker 4: they were told they were connected and they split apart.
[2:01:12] Speaker 4: So there's that. There's so many things. And then you
[2:01:15] Speaker 4: add in the levels of like you know, not even
[2:01:18] Speaker 4: going into like hidden history, but like like just what
[2:01:23] Speaker 4: we're told our North American founding of American history of
[2:01:26] Speaker 4: like what happened in Philadelphia, Like ross Ben has done
[2:01:31] Speaker 4: amazing job like showing all of that, and then you
[2:01:34] Speaker 4: tie that into what's going on in at Gettysburg and
[2:01:38] Speaker 4: you begin to recognize Gettysburg and what happened at the
[2:01:41] Speaker 4: Battle of Gettysburg is like you know, this like blood
[2:01:44] Speaker 4: ritual on this ancient land. And then you realize that
[2:01:50] Speaker 4: so much of the continuity of government occurs under the
[2:01:54] Speaker 4: earth in this like really like from Carlisle, Pennsylvania, down
[2:01:59] Speaker 4: through Gettysburg to like where Camp David is. This is
[2:02:02] Speaker 4: a place and like no one knows, like you know,
[2:02:05] Speaker 4: unless you're born there, like like no one's ever heard
[2:02:08] Speaker 4: of these places. But this is like uh where everything
[2:02:12] Speaker 4: like behind the scenes is happening, and it's happening both
[2:02:15] Speaker 4: in like a logistical real way and it's showing itself
[2:02:19] Speaker 4: like in this like uh geological way and this like
[2:02:23] Speaker 4: uh this ritualistic way, and we see paranormal activity all
[2:02:28] Speaker 4: over the place. You know you always but it because
[2:02:31] Speaker 4: Pennsylvania typically doesn't have like a like a sexy story
[2:02:36] Speaker 4: in like the culture which is told like you know,
[2:02:38] Speaker 4: most people don't know about it. What stories did you
[2:02:41] Speaker 4: hear about what? Tell me what do you remember anything?
[2:02:43] Speaker 4: Which those paranormal researchers.
[2:02:45] Speaker 3: It was.
[2:02:47] Speaker 1: Just a couple of haunted locations and some cryptid encounters,
[2:02:51] Speaker 1: all right, crypted encounters with some dog type cryptids. I
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: think that was the main stories. But it was just
[2:02:58] Speaker 1: the the amount of I had two or three different
[2:03:01] Speaker 1: researchers on late me telling me about experiences in Pennsylvania
[2:03:05] Speaker 1: in particular. I thought it was pretty interesting.
[2:03:07] Speaker 4: There's a lot of crypti. And so think about this,
[2:03:09] Speaker 4: like think about everything which we know about like West
[2:03:12] Speaker 4: Virginia and Mothman and stuff like that. Like the only
[2:03:15] Speaker 4: reason we think West Virginia is different than Pennsylvania is
[2:03:18] Speaker 4: because of a line. But West Virginia and and and
[2:03:21] Speaker 4: particularly that part of Pennsylvania where Pittsburgh is the southwestern corner,
[2:03:26] Speaker 4: like you know, that's the same sort of that's the
[2:03:29] Speaker 4: whole anomaly where all the kind of like like the
[2:03:31] Speaker 4: Greenbrier is is a resort in West Virginia, which was
[2:03:36] Speaker 4: you know, it's it's public knowledge. This is where the
[2:03:39] Speaker 4: Senate would go during a nuclear attack, and like and
[2:03:42] Speaker 4: then everyone else would go up into like parts of
[2:03:46] Speaker 4: Pennsylvania and where Camp David is like that whole area,
[2:03:50] Speaker 4: and it's like it's it's there's something strange there. There's
[2:03:54] Speaker 4: definitely something strange in Scranton. I'll talk about Scranton for
[2:03:59] Speaker 4: a little bit because it is kind of tangible. So
[2:04:01] Speaker 4: so Scranton is what is fascinating because it is in
[2:04:06] Speaker 4: the the the backdrop. It's been sublimably dropped in the
[2:04:12] Speaker 4: collective consciousness of your typical pop culture American in a
[2:04:16] Speaker 4: variety of ways, the most obvious being the television's show, uh,
[2:04:22] Speaker 4: The Office, but there's been a lot of other shows
[2:04:26] Speaker 4: which talk about Scranton in passing. And then you go
[2:04:30] Speaker 4: and you look at the history and like Joe Biden
[2:04:32] Speaker 4: from Scranton, and Hillary Clinton's from Scranton, and like, uh,
[2:04:36] Speaker 4: Frank Carlucci, the head of the Carlisle Group behind nine
[2:04:39] Speaker 4: to eleven, was from Scranton, and like, you know, the
[2:04:41] Speaker 4: BF Skinners from Scranton, And you begin to start to
[2:04:44] Speaker 4: see this. So Scranton, Scranton sits on top of, uh,
[2:04:51] Speaker 4: the deposit of of what I'm gonna call fire rock.
[2:04:57] Speaker 4: It's this type of rock which can which can catch
[2:05:00] Speaker 4: on fire. There's only there's only one type of rock
[2:05:03] Speaker 4: which catches on fire, like none of the other rocks
[2:05:06] Speaker 4: will catch on fire. We call it coal. But as
[2:05:09] Speaker 4: soon as I say coal, the mind goes and tells you, oh,
[2:05:12] Speaker 4: well that's what coal is, Like there's a there's a
[2:05:14] Speaker 4: so I kind of like you like, no, it's a
[2:05:17] Speaker 4: fucking fire rock. Like if you were like, yes, like it,
[2:05:20] Speaker 4: like we're using it for heat sources. But if you
[2:05:23] Speaker 4: did not have a point of reference and you see
[2:05:24] Speaker 4: all of the different stones of the natural world, and
[2:05:27] Speaker 4: you'd be like, oh, this is the only rock which
[2:05:29] Speaker 4: can catch on fire, You're you're gonna come to this
[2:05:31] Speaker 4: conclusion like with curiosity, like Okay, this is special. So
[2:05:35] Speaker 4: so you've got coal found throughout the world, and we
[2:05:38] Speaker 4: know that's a fire rock, and you know it's it's
[2:05:40] Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a carbon. It's mostly carbon. That's
[2:05:44] Speaker 4: why catches on fire. But diamonds are mostly carbon. They
[2:05:46] Speaker 4: don't catch on fire. We're told it's plant matter, but
[2:05:49] Speaker 4: we've never seen it happen. But well, I don't have
[2:05:50] Speaker 4: a better solution or answer to what it is. But
[2:05:53] Speaker 4: but that's coal and coals like a dirty sort of thing. Coals,
[2:05:56] Speaker 4: this dirty sort of thing, and what I mean by
[2:06:00] Speaker 4: like if you handle it like you know, you get
[2:06:02] Speaker 4: it on your clothes and like it when you burn it,
[2:06:04] Speaker 4: like it it it like theirs soot and all that
[2:06:07] Speaker 4: sort of stuff like that. But there's there's another type
[2:06:10] Speaker 4: of burning stone, another type of coal there, uh which
[2:06:14] Speaker 4: which is called anthracite. The other type of coal is
[2:06:16] Speaker 4: called bit miss I think, or I think that's what
[2:06:19] Speaker 4: the word is. And anthracite makes up a very very
[2:06:22] Speaker 4: very very very very small percentage of all of the
[2:06:26] Speaker 4: uh of known coal deposits or resources. And what makes
[2:06:32] Speaker 4: anthracite special is it ain't got no smoke. So now
[2:06:37] Speaker 4: let's go back to like our curiosity mind with no
[2:06:40] Speaker 4: preconceived notions, and you're like looking at this where this
[2:06:43] Speaker 4: this environment, you be like, okay, this is the only
[2:06:46] Speaker 4: you know that of all of the rocks, these are
[2:06:48] Speaker 4: the only rocks that catch on fire. So I know
[2:06:51] Speaker 4: there's something special about that there's fire in these rocks.
[2:06:53] Speaker 4: And then this one, this one's got no smoke. This
[2:06:58] Speaker 4: one's got no smoke. Now they'll tell you it's because
[2:07:00] Speaker 4: it's got no impurities in it. There's no impurities, so
[2:07:02] Speaker 4: it has no smoke. So nonetheless, nonetheless, so we've got
[2:07:06] Speaker 4: the rock which which catches on fire, which has no smoke,
[2:07:09] Speaker 4: and so it is a very very very small percent.
[2:07:12] Speaker 4: I think it's like between one and two percent of
[2:07:14] Speaker 4: all coal is anthracite. And of that small sub section
[2:07:18] Speaker 4: of like you know, now we're just looking at the anthracite,
[2:07:21] Speaker 4: the overwhelming majority, like ninety eight percent of it, ninety
[2:07:25] Speaker 4: eight percent, ninety nine percent of all anthracite, all of
[2:07:29] Speaker 4: this special rock is found underneath Scranton, Pennsylvania.
[2:07:34] Speaker 5: And so like like without like going into like what
[2:07:37] Speaker 5: that means, without going into like what that means, we're like, Okay,
[2:07:40] Speaker 5: that's kind of odd because like no one knows what
[2:07:42] Speaker 5: Scranton is in the middle of nowhere, but we've got
[2:07:44] Speaker 5: some weirdness going on.
[2:07:45] Speaker 3: You know.
[2:07:46] Speaker 4: Joe Biden's from there, and we got like you know,
[2:07:48] Speaker 4: we got we got Hillary Clinton from there, and we've
[2:07:51] Speaker 4: got the office, and it's kind of making fun like
[2:07:53] Speaker 4: the whole thing in the office is kind of making
[2:07:55] Speaker 4: fun of what Scranton is in that whole part of Pennsylvania.
[2:07:59] Speaker 4: So there there's two other parts of which I find
[2:08:02] Speaker 4: very interesting, which are two other like pieces of pop
[2:08:06] Speaker 4: culture which deal with Scranton, and both of them are
[2:08:11] Speaker 4: pieces of science fiction literature, and I wasn't planning on
[2:08:17] Speaker 4: telling the story, so I don't have one of the
[2:08:19] Speaker 4: books off the top of my the name of the
[2:08:22] Speaker 4: books off the top of my head. But it was
[2:08:23] Speaker 4: a Hugo Award winning book, and so that's kind of
[2:08:27] Speaker 4: like the Academy Awards of science fiction. It came out
[2:08:30] Speaker 4: in the fifties. I can't remember the author of the book.
[2:08:32] Speaker 4: I think it was called Like City something or other,
[2:08:35] Speaker 4: but the premise of the book was that these cities
[2:08:39] Speaker 4: were able to, like an entire city could take off
[2:08:41] Speaker 4: from Earth and go into outer space. And the city
[2:08:44] Speaker 4: of the in that book was Scranton. So like we've
[2:08:47] Speaker 4: got this like connection like in fifties science fiction of
[2:08:50] Speaker 4: Scranton being this kind of like otherworldly sort of of
[2:08:54] Speaker 4: of location. And then we have we have Philip K.
[2:08:58] Speaker 4: Dick's Man in the High Cap, which also won a
[2:09:02] Speaker 4: Hugo Award. Now I'm gonna be honest here, and I'm
[2:09:06] Speaker 4: a little bit uncertain with this. I've not read the book,
[2:09:10] Speaker 4: but I have seen the television show, and so they
[2:09:12] Speaker 4: get linked. And this is part of like the conscious
[2:09:15] Speaker 4: like you know how how the dream of the collective consciousness.
[2:09:18] Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say that this is in the TV
[2:09:20] Speaker 4: show for certain, and I can't say if this is
[2:09:22] Speaker 4: in the book for certain, because sometimes they don't line up.
[2:09:26] Speaker 4: But this is what they did in the TV show
[2:09:28] Speaker 4: The Man in the High Castle. A key, key location
[2:09:32] Speaker 4: is Scranton, Pennsylvania. And the reason why is Scranton, Pennsylvania
[2:09:37] Speaker 4: is where the Nazis have found an anomaly in the
[2:09:41] Speaker 4: electromagnetic field in Earth, and they have to go deep
[2:09:45] Speaker 4: into the Earth where this deposit is and then they
[2:09:48] Speaker 4: are able to go to different dimensions like that is
[2:09:51] Speaker 4: that is the the the the part of their of
[2:09:55] Speaker 4: this of of their their their storyline. So we've got
[2:09:59] Speaker 4: like all of these different sort of things like and
[2:10:01] Speaker 4: we're talking this Pennsylvania and so like it brings me
[2:10:04] Speaker 4: back this question. I'm like, you know, I don't know.
[2:10:06] Speaker 4: I'm not saying like you're gonna go to another dimension
[2:10:08] Speaker 4: with with a piece of anthracite. I'm also not saying
[2:10:11] Speaker 4: you're not gonna go to another divent with the piece
[2:10:13] Speaker 4: of anthracite. I'm just saying I don't know. But what
[2:10:16] Speaker 4: I do think is interesting is that there are all
[2:10:21] Speaker 4: of these indications of there being something significant in this location. Uh,
[2:10:26] Speaker 4: and I share this story for two reasons when we
[2:10:28] Speaker 4: were talking about weird Pennsylvania. But then secondly, Secondly, is
[2:10:34] Speaker 4: one of the things which I think is happening right
[2:10:36] Speaker 4: now and I'm seeing it from feedback from my work,
[2:10:41] Speaker 4: is people are beginning to look at their own backyard,
[2:10:44] Speaker 4: their own cities, their own like their own histories, with
[2:10:48] Speaker 4: new eyes, and they're beginning to see like a new
[2:10:52] Speaker 4: way of understanding reality. And so that if anything is
[2:10:56] Speaker 4: is yes, this Grant story maybe is kind of fun
[2:10:58] Speaker 4: and exciting, but it's mostly to be like I Scranting
[2:11:02] Speaker 4: ain't the only place, Like you know, what's unique in
[2:11:04] Speaker 4: your backyard, what unique geology is found there, what is
[2:11:08] Speaker 4: special about that on that baseline reality, and then seeing
[2:11:12] Speaker 4: how that ties into like history or military complexes or
[2:11:16] Speaker 4: stuff like that, and then beginning to like have your
[2:11:18] Speaker 4: own sort of connection on a deeper level. Like I'm
[2:11:22] Speaker 4: finding that very exciting. So so when we're talking about
[2:11:25] Speaker 4: the collective, like that's something which I personally am wanting
[2:11:29] Speaker 4: to become encouraged more and maybe hoping to inspire that
[2:11:34] Speaker 4: that movement to happen more. That's you know, some of
[2:11:37] Speaker 4: the work, which I'm doing with ros Ben and Emily Moyer,
[2:11:40] Speaker 4: is to like to introduce like more new ways of
[2:11:45] Speaker 4: seeing things.
[2:11:47] Speaker 1: That's great because there is there's a major attempted divide
[2:11:53] Speaker 1: for people right now. There's the of course, the masks
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: and No Mask camp. You have the vax and Novak's camp,
[2:12:02] Speaker 1: all these attempts to divide people and get them thinking
[2:12:06] Speaker 1: on different wavelengths. When I think, you know, behind the scenes,
[2:12:10] Speaker 1: we have more people kind of looking at things beyond
[2:12:13] Speaker 1: that and coming together when they're trying to hide the
[2:12:16] Speaker 1: fact that that's happening, I don't know, what do you think.
[2:12:18] Speaker 1: Do you think that we're going to see more people
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: coming together and looking past this division tactics in the future.
[2:12:25] Speaker 4: Yes, I mean so, I so. I mean this is
[2:12:30] Speaker 4: when people start talking about like, you know, we need
[2:12:32] Speaker 4: three percent or five percent, like you know, I do
[2:12:35] Speaker 4: think you know, whether it's it's that or more so
[2:12:40] Speaker 4: just the fact that so much of other life has
[2:12:44] Speaker 4: gone away and people are looking for at least something novel, uh,
[2:12:50] Speaker 4: you know, something new to do or or you know,
[2:12:53] Speaker 4: people are becoming more more curious and aware of their surrounding. Yeah,
[2:13:00] Speaker 4: Like I'm seeing that happen, like you know, just in
[2:13:03] Speaker 4: terms of community, these aren't big numbers, but like you know,
[2:13:07] Speaker 4: communication I have with people people here here, hear me
[2:13:10] Speaker 4: on a show, and I get emails all the time,
[2:13:12] Speaker 4: which is like, hey, I started looking at my own
[2:13:14] Speaker 4: back backyard this way. When I say my backyard, like
[2:13:17] Speaker 4: I mean that literally and figuratively, and I found this,
[2:13:21] Speaker 4: this and this, and like I feel connected to that
[2:13:23] Speaker 4: and and yeah, I'm seeing that, and I think that
[2:13:26] Speaker 4: that person who's doing that, they're sharing that with me
[2:13:29] Speaker 4: because they know that that like I probably get it,
[2:13:32] Speaker 4: but then they're probably sharing it with people in their community,
[2:13:36] Speaker 4: like you know, their friends, their family, and like you know,
[2:13:38] Speaker 4: half of them two years ago, their family would have
[2:13:41] Speaker 4: thought they were crazy. But right now, there's gonna be
[2:13:44] Speaker 4: a lot there's gonna be more people who are going
[2:13:45] Speaker 4: to be interested in that than than than before. So
[2:13:49] Speaker 4: I think it's just it's a it's a it's a
[2:13:52] Speaker 4: logical conclusion that that that people are going to begin
[2:13:55] Speaker 4: to look at things differently. I mean obviously you're seeing
[2:13:58] Speaker 4: that too, Like, uh, as your as your influences, your
[2:14:03] Speaker 4: reach with your platform has increased, like you know, you
[2:14:07] Speaker 4: go back ten years ago when you think about like
[2:14:09] Speaker 4: you know, how you were received and like how those
[2:14:13] Speaker 4: numbers Like yeah, like I think we're seeing it all around.
[2:14:16] Speaker 4: I think they're there. You know, they said it, they've
[2:14:18] Speaker 4: been saying that. I remember, like ten years ago, they
[2:14:20] Speaker 4: to talk about that, like humanity is splitting. They're gonna
[2:14:22] Speaker 4: be two types of humans. And they always positioned it
[2:14:25] Speaker 4: like those the superhuman who takes the chip, but like
[2:14:29] Speaker 4: you know, maybe the other type of the Maybe that
[2:14:31] Speaker 4: might be true, but it's more so like the other
[2:14:34] Speaker 4: type of human, the one which you and I are
[2:14:35] Speaker 4: describing right now, who's beginning to see things differently. Like
[2:14:39] Speaker 4: that's what I think is, That's that's the group I'm interested.
[2:14:42] Speaker 1: In, definitely, the ones that are naturally kind of evolving, uh,
[2:14:47] Speaker 1: to see things in a new way and maybe get
[2:14:49] Speaker 1: back some of our hidden abilities that humans used to
[2:14:53] Speaker 1: have in the past, the really exciting times.
[2:14:56] Speaker 4: I would say, even more so, to move off of,
[2:14:58] Speaker 4: to move off of the system, and the system, the
[2:15:01] Speaker 4: system only is held in place by consciousness. Like it's
[2:15:06] Speaker 4: it's an idea. It's just an idea. It's a a
[2:15:11] Speaker 4: mass greed upon idea. It's a mass greed upon ideas.
[2:15:15] Speaker 4: So that's why like it kind of like it works,
[2:15:18] Speaker 4: but it's just an idea. And what we see in
[2:15:23] Speaker 4: the natural world is is that when when the toxin
[2:15:28] Speaker 4: stop going into the baseline reality, it immediately begins to
[2:15:34] Speaker 4: self regulate or self heal. You know, they told us
[2:15:38] Speaker 4: that right with the like when Wuhan went into lockdown,
[2:15:42] Speaker 4: the sky's cleared up in a week, and and Chuernobyl
[2:15:46] Speaker 4: we've seen fauna which we haven't seen for ten thousand
[2:15:49] Speaker 4: years because no one's allowed into it. And we know
[2:15:51] Speaker 4: that within the human body, we know that when you
[2:15:57] Speaker 4: go sixteen hours without digest testing food, meaning that the
[2:16:03] Speaker 4: digestive system, like the body doesn't have to work. That's
[2:16:06] Speaker 4: like why they always want you to eat, so that
[2:16:09] Speaker 4: the body never stops working, like it suddenly starts doing
[2:16:12] Speaker 4: something different.
[2:16:13] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:16:14] Speaker 4: Our entire culture is toxic uh to consciousness. And what
[2:16:19] Speaker 4: I mean by consciousness is it's how we understand reality
[2:16:23] Speaker 4: that's on the most basic level. And so as we
[2:16:26] Speaker 4: begin to see things differently, and as we begin to
[2:16:30] Speaker 4: to no longer have our consciousness linked into this toxic program. Uh.
[2:16:38] Speaker 4: I think that all of those those those things, those
[2:16:42] Speaker 4: you know, quote unquote magical abilities like it's not that
[2:16:46] Speaker 4: we discover, it's like there they just happen.
[2:16:50] Speaker 3: You know.
[2:16:50] Speaker 4: The connection we have with with everything I think is changed.
[2:16:54] Speaker 4: Like that's my that's the the I don't want to
[2:17:00] Speaker 4: say like it's an expectation, like because that's part of
[2:17:02] Speaker 4: the problem, because you will because I want you want
[2:17:04] Speaker 4: to hold a a a an openness but to how
[2:17:10] Speaker 4: it's gonna unfold. But but but yeah, there is an
[2:17:12] Speaker 4: expectation that, yeah, things are gonna unfold in that way.
[2:17:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, we live in such a fascinating time. I'm always
[2:17:20] Speaker 1: interested to see what's coming around the next corner. Michael,
[2:17:23] Speaker 1: I want to thank you again for joining us tonight.
[2:17:25] Speaker 1: Another excellent conversation, and you know, I'd love to have
[2:17:29] Speaker 1: you keep having you on as things develop and we
[2:17:31] Speaker 1: keep going along in this crazy sci fi story that
[2:17:34] Speaker 1: we're in.
[2:17:35] Speaker 4: Fantastic. This was a lot of fun, uh, and I'm
[2:17:38] Speaker 4: happy to come back on this time. Let's not wait
[2:17:41] Speaker 4: a year, Let's do another six months. We'll see what happens,
[2:17:43] Speaker 4: but that'll feel like a decade. I guarantee it. We'll
[2:17:45] Speaker 4: talk about at the end of your celler.
[2:17:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. So all right, Michael, Well, thanks again for
[2:17:50] Speaker 2: coming on.
[2:17:51] Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon and until next time, everyone, have
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