# Kristan Harris | 9/11 25 Years Later, Surveillance, Mass Mind Control, Satanism & Depopulation

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[0:10] Speaker 1: weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
[0:14] Speaker 1: your host, Chris Matthew. Today my guest is Kristen Harris.
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[0:40] Speaker 1: want to welcome back to the show, Chris Don Harris.
[0:42] Speaker 1: He is a nationally syndicated journalist, a frontline correspondent, and
[0:47] Speaker 1: a relentless truth seeker, best known as the co-founder and
[0:50] Speaker 1: host of The Rundown Live. Chris Don, welcome back. How
[0:54] Speaker 1: you doing?
[0:55] Speaker 2: How are you doing, brother? It's been a while since
[0:57] Speaker 2: I've been on the broadcast. I'm really excited to be
[0:59] Speaker 2: here with you today and on a very special date, Chris.
[1:03] Speaker 2: It's a date that goes down in history. And I
[1:05] Speaker 2: don't know if you remember where you were on 9-11
[1:09] Speaker 2: when the airplanes hit World Trade Center buildings one and two.
[1:14] Speaker 2: But I remember where I was. I was sleeping on
[1:16] Speaker 2: my parents' couch, oblivious to everything that there was in
[1:19] Speaker 2: the world. And I was kind of taken aback. You know,
[1:24] Speaker 2: I grew up in a very Protestant Christian household. My
[1:27] Speaker 2: grandfather was a German-speaking Protestant pastor, preacher. And my parents
[1:34] Speaker 2: went to a very strict assemblies of God church that
[1:37] Speaker 2: used to be Pentecostal, but they slowly moved away from
[1:40] Speaker 2: that because, you know, men like to have long hair
[1:43] Speaker 2: and girls don't want to wear dresses all the time.
[1:45] Speaker 2: So when I got a call, I got a call
[1:49] Speaker 2: early in the morning. I was sleeping on my parents' couch.
[1:51] Speaker 2: I had to head to college. I was sleeping on
[1:53] Speaker 2: their couch in the basement. And my best friend, who
[1:56] Speaker 2: was the drummer of my band at the time, I
[1:57] Speaker 2: toured in a pop punk band called Subdue. But I
[2:00] Speaker 2: also went to college when we were touring for certain seasons.
[2:04] Speaker 2: And then in the off season, we would tour. And
[2:06] Speaker 2: he called me up and he's like, bro, this is
[2:08] Speaker 2: Bible prophecy. This is everything that's in the Bible. This
[2:12] Speaker 2: is what's in there. And I didn't really question it
[2:15] Speaker 2: at the time, right? Because that's the way I was
[2:17] Speaker 2: brought up. That's the programming and the program I was running. And...
[2:23] Speaker 2: I think at that time, now looking back, I didn't
[2:26] Speaker 2: really know a whole lot about it other than that.
[2:29] Speaker 2: I toured in a pop-punk band, which was mostly a
[2:31] Speaker 2: Christian pop-punk band, did bands work tour. And I didn't
[2:34] Speaker 2: know that there was this whole world of occultism, secret societies,
[2:39] Speaker 2: and symbolism. My good friend and former mentor, Jordan Maxwell,
[2:44] Speaker 2: Russell Pine, he was Manly P. Hall's protege, would always
[2:48] Speaker 2: say that The world suffers from symbolism illiteracy. They don't
[2:55] Speaker 2: understand what symbolism means, the impact it has, the programming,
[3:01] Speaker 2: and the whole ritual aspect of things. And I'm really
[3:05] Speaker 2: glad you're having me on because all of this ties
[3:07] Speaker 2: into a lot of the work I'm doing right now.
[3:10] Speaker 2: I'm working on setting the foundation for my first documentary
[3:14] Speaker 2: on MKUltra, which I'm interviewing now. MKUltra survivors, which is interesting.
[3:20] Speaker 2: Whether or not it's really hard to kind of pin down,
[3:22] Speaker 2: how do you know they were a part of the program?
[3:24] Speaker 2: How were you not? Well, there's some things I've worked
[3:27] Speaker 2: on and some things I looked into. Are their parents
[3:30] Speaker 2: involved in the military? Are they involved in government operations?
[3:35] Speaker 2: What was the process like? What do they remember? Some
[3:37] Speaker 2: of them even have things from their experiences. I talked
[3:42] Speaker 2: to my good friend Katie Page. And she actually has
[3:44] Speaker 2: the cassette tapes from the GATE program, which is something
[3:47] Speaker 2: my good friend Ryder Lee just did a great documentary
[3:52] Speaker 2: on Amazon called Psychic Agent. Make sure you guys go
[3:55] Speaker 2: out and support it. It's really worth the money to
[3:57] Speaker 2: go see it. I was blessed to have a, you know,
[4:01] Speaker 2: kind of a... early access to it. And I have
[4:04] Speaker 2: to say, it answers a lot of the questions and
[4:06] Speaker 2: a lot of things I've been going into. But essentially,
[4:09] Speaker 2: I believe that 9-11 was in part a very symbolic
[4:16] Speaker 2: event situation. If anything else, like I could say on
[4:20] Speaker 2: one end that it was a Masonic ritual or it
[4:23] Speaker 2: was a Satanic Luciferian ritual. It was a ritual that
[4:28] Speaker 2: was under the guise of the idea of ritualistic magic
[4:33] Speaker 2: because that's something that is really believed upon in the
[4:37] Speaker 2: top enchilada of organizations like the Bavarian Illuminati. We know
[4:41] Speaker 2: that Adam Weisop was a real person in the 1700s.
[4:44] Speaker 2: He was missioned with taking the mystery schools of abuse,
[4:49] Speaker 2: which a lot of it comes from the Egyptian book
[4:52] Speaker 2: of the dead, where they talk about the abuse and
[4:54] Speaker 2: how to make people submissive and slavery and things like that.
[4:58] Speaker 2: But Babylon before that was Semiramis and Nimrod and cannibalism
[5:02] Speaker 2: and human sacrifice, and all the things that they would
[5:05] Speaker 2: do to try to gain their followers and control people's minds.
[5:09] Speaker 2: And all of this stems back to some kind of
[5:12] Speaker 2: form and evolution into what we most of us describe
[5:15] Speaker 2: as satanic Luciferianism. I don't believe all Luciferians believe this,
[5:20] Speaker 2: but there are a group of individuals that believe in
[5:23] Speaker 2: this kind of chaos magic. In fact, the term grimoire,
[5:27] Speaker 2: which is a black magic book, is where we get
[5:29] Speaker 2: the term glamour and grammar from. And it's the process
[5:34] Speaker 2: of taking symbols and putting them together. It's not called wording, right?
[5:38] Speaker 2: If we're putting symbols together to have meaning, we call
[5:40] Speaker 2: it spelling. What does it mean to cast a spell?
[5:44] Speaker 2: Just look at your capital A. What is the capital A?
[5:47] Speaker 2: I see it right behind you. You have a symbol
[5:48] Speaker 2: that says on air, Chris. Well, if I look at it,
[5:51] Speaker 2: I see a pyramid and all seeing eye. Most people
[5:54] Speaker 2: don't see that because when you don't look at it,
[5:56] Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're looking at. Every day
[5:58] Speaker 2: we're programming using the capital A and the capital A
[6:02] Speaker 2: is really just a pyramid and all seeing eye, which
[6:06] Speaker 2: if you look into the occult research. it is what's
[6:09] Speaker 2: known as the chief cornerstone the chief cornerstone is called
[6:13] Speaker 2: that because when you're building a home and you the
[6:16] Speaker 2: first stone you lay down is the cornerstone this is
[6:18] Speaker 2: going to be all relevant to what we're talking about
[6:21] Speaker 2: with the buildings of uh the world trade center and
[6:23] Speaker 2: the rockefellers who funded it who were part of the
[6:26] Speaker 2: the bloodlines of the illuminati and everything else but for
[6:29] Speaker 2: you guys to understand where i'm going with this i
[6:30] Speaker 2: want to lay the foundation And so the basic foundation
[6:34] Speaker 2: is when you're building a home, you start with a cornerstone.
[6:36] Speaker 2: You start building a building, you start with a cornerstone.
[6:39] Speaker 2: The Freemasons label their cornerstones Anno Lucius, or the year
[6:43] Speaker 2: of the light bringer, not the actual year of the building.
[6:47] Speaker 2: If you notice, they add the additional thousands of years
[6:50] Speaker 2: for when they believed that the light bringer came down
[6:53] Speaker 2: and illuminated them. So when we look at a chief cornerstone,
[6:57] Speaker 2: where it's different, and in the Bible it describes Christ
[7:01] Speaker 2: as the chief cornerstone. What it is, is the novelist.
[7:07] Speaker 2: It is a pyramid. The reason why it's chief cornerstone,
[7:10] Speaker 2: you cannot put another brick on top of it, right?
[7:12] Speaker 2: If you have a pyramid and you're gonna build the
[7:14] Speaker 2: next brick, you can't lay another brick on top of it.
[7:17] Speaker 2: So do you know what you gotta do? You've got
[7:19] Speaker 2: to reject it. So what Masons do is they cut
[7:21] Speaker 2: off that part, and they reject it. So the idea
[7:25] Speaker 2: is Christ was rejected from the church. Adam Weishaupt was
[7:28] Speaker 2: rejected from the Jesuits. That's the symbolism there, right? And
[7:33] Speaker 2: so when you reject it, that allows you to build
[7:35] Speaker 2: upon them, just like the Pharisees rejected Christ. You can
[7:39] Speaker 2: look at all these different examples. So that's why you
[7:44] Speaker 2: have two separate pieces. You have the pyramid and the
[7:46] Speaker 2: top cutoff, and it's known as the chief cornerstone. It's
[7:49] Speaker 2: different from a regular cornerstone. Not only that, they put
[7:53] Speaker 2: an eye in it. Well, the eye represents predominantly the
[7:56] Speaker 2: sun and the sky. See, you can't own the sun.
[7:59] Speaker 2: I can't own the sun. That's God's son. That's the
[8:01] Speaker 2: son of God. It's the all-seeing eye. It's the eye
[8:04] Speaker 2: that knows all, right? So that is the symbolism that
[8:08] Speaker 2: is on the back of the dollar bill. And when
[8:10] Speaker 2: we look at a capital A, that is what we're
[8:12] Speaker 2: seeing right there is that hidden esoteric meaning. To the
[8:16] Speaker 2: average Joe, they're just like, it's a letter on my
[8:18] Speaker 2: freaking keyboard. It doesn't matter to me. But when you
[8:22] Speaker 2: start wondering then, what does the capital B mean? And
[8:24] Speaker 2: why is it a number? It's the number 13 put together.
[8:28] Speaker 2: Numerology was really important to the cult. I was at
[8:32] Speaker 2: Manly P. Hall's personal library. That's where I got the
[8:35] Speaker 2: Philosophical Research Society shirt here that I went and I
[8:40] Speaker 2: got to hang out. I got access to a part
[8:42] Speaker 2: of the library that most people did not have access to.
[8:46] Speaker 2: And that is the top half of the library. And
[8:48] Speaker 2: inside of Manly Putt P. Hall's library, you can take
[8:51] Speaker 2: out any book and look at it while you're within
[8:53] Speaker 2: the library. And what I noticed is the books he
[8:56] Speaker 2: read on the 33rd page he signed. So he had
[9:00] Speaker 2: tons of books on numerology, on numbers. on astrology, on
[9:07] Speaker 2: stars and observation. That's just some of it. A lot
[9:10] Speaker 2: of it's dealing with the Bible and everything else. But
[9:12] Speaker 2: a lot of it had to deal with the numerology
[9:14] Speaker 2: and occultism. So what I'm trying to say here is
[9:17] Speaker 2: every time you pound a capital A, every time you
[9:19] Speaker 2: spend a dollar, because on the back of the dollar bill,
[9:22] Speaker 2: you have the pyramid of all seeing eye, you have
[9:24] Speaker 2: the pyramid with the all seeing eye, you are being
[9:26] Speaker 2: programmed unbeknownst to you. You are slowly becoming a subject
[9:32] Speaker 2: to the items that you spend, the currency. What does
[9:35] Speaker 2: currency do? And what does the bank do? Bank divides
[9:38] Speaker 2: the currency and directs which way you go, the flow
[9:41] Speaker 2: of the currency. So that's what currency is, and that's
[9:44] Speaker 2: why we have the symbolism on the dollar bills, because
[9:48] Speaker 2: it's the most used form of currency. Every time we
[9:51] Speaker 2: open up our wallet, if we still use it, we
[9:54] Speaker 2: see the capital A today, the capital B being the
[9:57] Speaker 2: number 13. And as we know, Masons represent. themselves as
[10:00] Speaker 2: worker bees. Most warlocks and witches, they use bees as
[10:05] Speaker 2: a form of symbolism. So what we're getting into here
[10:09] Speaker 2: is an understanding that the words we use, And the
[10:14] Speaker 2: language we use is a cultic language. The term cursive
[10:20] Speaker 2: is what happens when you stitch symbols together or if
[10:23] Speaker 2: you have too many beers, right? You start speaking in cursive.
[10:26] Speaker 2: You know, there's a terminology here. When you write things,
[10:32] Speaker 2: you have the word ritual right in the word right, W-R-I-T-E.
[10:36] Speaker 2: What is a Scottish rite? What is a York Rite? Well,
[10:41] Speaker 2: it's for ritual. It's for ritual. And even the term
[10:46] Speaker 2: glamour and grammar come from the term grimoire, which is
[10:50] Speaker 2: a magic book. Some people believe the Bible is a
[10:54] Speaker 2: programming book or magic book of itself. So we can
[10:58] Speaker 2: kind of dive into that. But now understanding, that's like
[11:02] Speaker 2: the very basics of of what these elitists understand and
[11:06] Speaker 2: they believe for occultism and what these organizations that are
[11:10] Speaker 2: heavily involved in witchcraft, they're heavily involved in rituals, they're
[11:14] Speaker 2: very heavily involved in symbolism and astrology, scrying, communicating. with things,
[11:21] Speaker 2: you know, psychics, all these things. They're very involved in
[11:25] Speaker 2: all this. So it's a very supernatural world that they
[11:28] Speaker 2: believe in. And it's very different than the average Christian
[11:31] Speaker 2: or the average non-believer atheist believes in. I mean, really. Like,
[11:35] Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. There's people out there that aren't a
[11:37] Speaker 2: follower of Christ or atheists. But we can all agree
[11:40] Speaker 2: that what I'm saying right now would seem ludicrous to
[11:42] Speaker 2: us all unless we were brought up into that culture,
[11:45] Speaker 2: unless we grew up with a family member that wasn't
[11:48] Speaker 2: a cultist, that did rituals, that learned these things that
[11:52] Speaker 2: you were learning about MKUltra when they would abuse people.
[11:55] Speaker 2: to the point that they would nearly die. And then
[11:57] Speaker 2: what they would have to do to survive was build
[11:59] Speaker 2: an alternative personality, and their memories would be split so
[12:03] Speaker 2: they could not remember the things that were happening to them.
[12:06] Speaker 2: It was a protection barrier. And they would use that
[12:08] Speaker 2: to build and make Manchurian candidates. They would use them
[12:12] Speaker 2: to build monarch sex slaves. They would use them through
[12:15] Speaker 2: different kinds of programming, the alpha, omega, beta, and Humans
[12:21] Speaker 2: can be programmed, is my point, no different than you
[12:24] Speaker 2: can program a computer. That is something that we found
[12:27] Speaker 2: out through the Franklin controversy. The Finders cult is a
[12:31] Speaker 2: little bit a diet version of the Franklin controversy. And
[12:34] Speaker 2: you just recently had a pretty impressive interview. with a
[12:38] Speaker 2: bunch of people that were discussing this very thing about
[12:42] Speaker 2: mind control, Hollywood, right? Because even Hollywood is a magic word.
[12:47] Speaker 2: A conductor uses a magic wand. A wizard like Merlin
[12:51] Speaker 2: the Magician uses a magic wand, like my good friend
[12:54] Speaker 2: Jordan Maxwell, the late Jordan Maxwell, would say. The term
[12:57] Speaker 2: Hollywood comes from the holly tree. The magic wand is
[13:01] Speaker 2: made from Hollywood. And the term is there to program
[13:04] Speaker 2: you to understand that is where the trends come from.
[13:07] Speaker 2: That is where the programming comes from. Everyone dances to
[13:11] Speaker 2: the tune of Taylor Swift and Michael Jackson and Madonna
[13:14] Speaker 2: and Elvis. And you had Marilyn Monroe and you had
[13:18] Speaker 2: all these people before them that people found and they
[13:22] Speaker 2: wanted to be like. So in the idea in Babylon,
[13:27] Speaker 2: In the mystery religion, when it was being formed by
[13:30] Speaker 2: Nimrod and Semiramis, the legend goes that they had a saying.
[13:34] Speaker 2: They said that they have the sun god, which is Nimrod, Semiramis,
[13:39] Speaker 2: the moon goddess, and her thousand points of light, or
[13:42] Speaker 2: the stars, or you could call them starseeds. or the
[13:45] Speaker 2: luminaries that were their followers. And so the stars and
[13:53] Speaker 2: the luminaries of the idea of Illuminism and Illuminati that
[13:57] Speaker 2: comes from Babylon, the mystery religion, that is just the
[14:01] Speaker 2: continuation of what we see then in Bohemian Grove, the
[14:04] Speaker 2: Minerva worship, and about the different rock stars, movie stars. Well,
[14:11] Speaker 2: we call them stars because they're luminaries. They are followers
[14:15] Speaker 2: of the mystery religion.
[14:17] Speaker 1: Thank you for that. That was a hell of an introduction.
[14:20] Speaker 1: Sorry about that, bro. No, it's all good, man. You
[14:22] Speaker 1: brought us straight to the deepest of the deep end,
[14:26] Speaker 1: which I'm all about because that's what I want to
[14:29] Speaker 1: get into today. As you said, it's the anniversary of
[14:33] Speaker 1: one of the most powerful, high-impact ritual, psychological operations of
[14:38] Speaker 1: our lifetimes. Like the majority of operations we're subjected to
[14:42] Speaker 1: over the years, there are multiple layers of information, objectives,
[14:48] Speaker 1: and reasoning behind it. And most people at the least
[14:52] Speaker 1: understand that 9-11 was a massive operation created by the
[14:57] Speaker 1: shadowy factions even linked to our own government. But when
[15:01] Speaker 1: you start to discuss the deep psychological and spiritual impacts
[15:06] Speaker 1: of and the chain of events that these operations are
[15:09] Speaker 1: carried out for, it gets extremely dark, as you were
[15:13] Speaker 1: discussing earlier. And most people, unfortunately, don't want anything to
[15:18] Speaker 1: do with that information. It's a bit too much for them.
[15:21] Speaker 1: This show today is for those folks that want to
[15:24] Speaker 1: know the deeper levels and are prepared to have a
[15:27] Speaker 1: deeper understanding of things like Satanism, MKUltra, depopulation, transhumanism, and
[15:35] Speaker 1: some of the deeper levels of all these dark operations.
[15:40] Speaker 1: But I want to go back to 9-11 itself. If
[15:43] Speaker 1: it is the case that this event had been planned
[15:47] Speaker 1: for a very long time, some believe that they've gone
[15:52] Speaker 1: as far as to plant explosives from the beginning of
[15:57] Speaker 1: the construction of these buildings. Do you subscribe to that?
[16:00] Speaker 1: Have you looked into any of that?
[16:03] Speaker 2: It's really interesting, Chris, because five years ago on this day,
[16:08] Speaker 2: I was in New York. I was in New York
[16:10] Speaker 2: covering the event and I wanted to have the most
[16:12] Speaker 2: natural experience. I met a very genius individual by the
[16:16] Speaker 2: name of Glenn Zerminoff, who wrote a very rare book.
[16:19] Speaker 2: I recommend if somebody can find it, it probably goes
[16:22] Speaker 2: for hundreds of dollars. But it's called the 9-11 Truth
[16:26] Speaker 2: Report by Glenn Zerminoff, the New York and New Jersey.
[16:31] Speaker 2: And it talks about the foundations of the Rockefellers. how
[16:34] Speaker 2: they built New York and how they built, and they
[16:37] Speaker 2: were involved in occult symbolism, how Rockefeller was a 33rd
[16:40] Speaker 2: degree Mason amongst other things. But while I was there,
[16:44] Speaker 2: I interviewed over 50 first responders. The number was right
[16:51] Speaker 2: around there. It might've been more like 40. And I
[16:54] Speaker 2: know I've interviewed other first responders prior to that, but I,
[16:58] Speaker 2: I first recorded a lot of the people responding to
[17:01] Speaker 2: what I would consider the families who are subscribing to
[17:06] Speaker 2: have a new investigation opened around 9-11. And those individuals
[17:13] Speaker 2: started what was called the 9-11 Truth Movement. When I
[17:17] Speaker 2: first started understanding 9-11, I thought 9-11 truthers were tinfoil adders.
[17:21] Speaker 2: They were nuts and crazy, and nobody should give them
[17:24] Speaker 2: any kind of credence. These people are anti-American. They don't
[17:28] Speaker 2: know what they're talking about. The government has the official narrative.
[17:31] Speaker 2: But then what really stood in my way of that
[17:35] Speaker 2: line of thinking and really just blew that up was
[17:38] Speaker 2: the idea that it was the family members who lost
[17:41] Speaker 2: people in the buildings that day. that were not getting
[17:45] Speaker 2: answers from the government of what really happened on that day.
[17:49] Speaker 2: So I started asking questions. And when I was there,
[17:52] Speaker 2: I was watching these people persecute people that actually had
[17:56] Speaker 2: loved ones that died in the building that day. And
[17:58] Speaker 2: then I would see firefighters and policemen come up and say, no, no, no,
[18:02] Speaker 2: these people are right. These people standing here saying we
[18:06] Speaker 2: need a new investigation. I was in the buildings on
[18:08] Speaker 2: those days. So I pulled them aside and I talked
[18:11] Speaker 2: to them. Well, it turns out one of the individuals
[18:14] Speaker 2: told me something very interesting. He said him and over
[18:17] Speaker 2: 150 first responders reported in an affidavit to the NIST
[18:23] Speaker 2: and to the government that they testified that there were
[18:26] Speaker 2: explosions that went off prior to the buildings coming down,
[18:30] Speaker 2: both of World Trade Center 1 and 2 and Building No. 7,
[18:33] Speaker 2: which fell from deep free fire– or was it– Free
[18:36] Speaker 2: fall speeds from a fire, which has never happened in
[18:38] Speaker 2: the history of mankind since. Not in that way or realm.
[18:43] Speaker 2: Let's not forget about, you know, the idea of all
[18:48] Speaker 2: the programming that led up to it. The building number
[18:50] Speaker 2: seven was the building where they were running the war
[18:53] Speaker 2: games out of for the exact scenario of Osama bin
[18:58] Speaker 2: Laden hijacking airplanes and flying them into buildings. The military
[19:02] Speaker 2: was running an operation of that exact scenario at the
[19:06] Speaker 2: same time that the real hijacking of airplanes happened where
[19:10] Speaker 2: they were flying them allegedly into the buildings. And then
[19:13] Speaker 2: what's interesting is we can't pull up any of that
[19:15] Speaker 2: information in real detail on the war games the government
[19:20] Speaker 2: was running, the drills the military is running near the
[19:23] Speaker 2: Capitol and New York, because of the fact that building
[19:28] Speaker 2: number seven is where all that was recorded and the
[19:30] Speaker 2: whole building was turned to rubble when they took it down,
[19:33] Speaker 2: when they literally most likely demolished it. I mean, it
[19:38] Speaker 2: fell at free fall speeds. It's improbable that mathematically and
[19:42] Speaker 2: scientifically that that could happen. I interviewed one of the
[19:46] Speaker 2: top architects and engineers, Richard Gage, He's like a brother now,
[19:50] Speaker 2: an older brother now. I talk to him often. There's
[19:52] Speaker 2: over 2,500 valid, high-profile architects and engineers that build skyscrapers,
[19:59] Speaker 2: they build stadiums, and they subscribe to the fact that
[20:03] Speaker 2: there's no way that planes brought down those Earth 2
[20:06] Speaker 2: buildings And building number seven fell due to free fall
[20:09] Speaker 2: speeds due to a fire started by debris from one
[20:13] Speaker 2: of the World Trade Centers in the pancake theory. You know, again,
[20:16] Speaker 2: that's a mind control thing. Chris, do you like pancakes?
[20:20] Speaker 2: I like pancakes.
[20:21] Speaker 1: I like pancakes.
[20:22] Speaker 2: But syrup on that pancake, man, you'll just buy whatever
[20:26] Speaker 2: you think. It's a thought process. It's mind control at
[20:30] Speaker 2: the end of the day. The whole idea, whether you
[20:33] Speaker 2: agree with it or not, was used to bring ahead
[20:35] Speaker 2: this draconian society. Without 9-11, we wouldn't have the Patriot Act.
[20:41] Speaker 2: What is everyone bitching about now is flock cameras. Why
[20:44] Speaker 2: do we have flock cameras? The Patriot Act. Why do
[20:46] Speaker 2: we have AI with hyper-intelligence? The Patriot Act. Why allows
[20:51] Speaker 2: them to collect all the metadata on it? The Patriot Act.
[20:54] Speaker 2: When the Patriot Act was passed, it was like, oh,
[20:57] Speaker 2: it'll only be around for a few years. You crazy
[20:59] Speaker 2: tinfoil hatters. They'll never put cameras on the street corners.
[21:05] Speaker 2: Buy yourself a box of Reynolds wraps. Make yourself a
[21:08] Speaker 2: cool little hat and put it on because Marines, military
[21:12] Speaker 2: would never have it. And what's crazy to me is
[21:14] Speaker 2: a lot of those same voices are now the ones
[21:16] Speaker 2: defending flock cameras. I understand where we came from. We
[21:20] Speaker 2: should have never been here. The way we got here
[21:23] Speaker 2: was because of the devastation that happened on 9-11, which,
[21:26] Speaker 2: by the way, we went into Afghanistan, killed 1.5. We'll
[21:31] Speaker 2: say conservative million people. As a result, it turned out
[21:34] Speaker 2: the Afghanis weren't responsible at all. Allegedly, it was mostly
[21:38] Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. We found that out from the 18 redacted
[21:41] Speaker 2: pages that were released. So I kind of veered off subject.
[21:46] Speaker 2: So my actual thought is I personally do believe, and
[21:50] Speaker 2: I side with the first responders that were in the building,
[21:53] Speaker 2: the firefighters, the police officers that were in the building,
[21:57] Speaker 2: and claim that there were detonations going off prior to
[22:01] Speaker 2: the buildings collapsing at free-fall speed.
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[23:26] Speaker 1: of evidence that has stacked up, at least since people
[23:31] Speaker 1: started questioning it almost a decade ago, has become undeniable.
[23:37] Speaker 1: The answers are there. There will never be any justice served.
[23:41] Speaker 1: The same people involved with those operations have been involved
[23:45] Speaker 1: with a series of events and operations that have brought
[23:48] Speaker 1: us to right where we are right now, just like
[23:50] Speaker 1: you said with the flock camera. Going back for a
[23:53] Speaker 1: moment to Building 7, there's plenty of theories behind the
[23:58] Speaker 1: significance of the destruction of this building. Do you have
[24:01] Speaker 1: any personal thoughts about that?
[24:03] Speaker 2: Well, I know that they tested the rubble for nanothermite,
[24:06] Speaker 2: and they tested positive, and that was peer-reviewed. Mm-hmm. And
[24:12] Speaker 2: for the people out there that don't know what nanothermite is,
[24:16] Speaker 2: nanothermite is an accelerant, meaning like if I take a
[24:19] Speaker 2: steel beam and I could... light it on fire, I
[24:22] Speaker 2: could have fire burning under it for a long period
[24:25] Speaker 2: of time and it won't weaken. But what would happen
[24:28] Speaker 2: if you paint on like a nanothermite, it will be
[24:30] Speaker 2: an accelerant and it'll raise the temperature and allow you
[24:33] Speaker 2: to cut through it like butter. So nanothermite was tested
[24:37] Speaker 2: in peer-reviewed studies that it was added to certain locations,
[24:42] Speaker 2: including building number seven, according to Richard Gage from what
[24:45] Speaker 2: I heard, and from what I saw from the peer-reviewed studies.
[24:49] Speaker 2: So if there are peer-reviewed studies, why is it that
[24:53] Speaker 2: NIST did not take it into consideration? What's interesting to
[24:57] Speaker 2: me is the fact that when the families had the
[25:00] Speaker 2: chance to ask NIST, who had their official report, they
[25:03] Speaker 2: came out with this giant bible of information proving the
[25:07] Speaker 2: pancake theory, which is a theory that I've never heard
[25:11] Speaker 2: of the fact that you don't look at the evidence
[25:13] Speaker 2: and then create a theory, but then you have a
[25:15] Speaker 2: theory and then use the evidence to support it. Cause
[25:18] Speaker 2: that's what the pancake theory is. I came up with a,
[25:21] Speaker 2: you know, they go to the waffle house theory. And
[25:24] Speaker 2: so I'm going to say the waffle theory is what
[25:27] Speaker 2: happened on nine 11 and I'm going to pay a
[25:29] Speaker 2: bunch of sign to figure out how it can fit
[25:32] Speaker 2: in there and how this could happen. Right. So that's
[25:34] Speaker 2: essentially what happened is where science is really saying, well,
[25:37] Speaker 2: let's take all the data and let's investigate it and
[25:41] Speaker 2: see what really happened. And that's what you're finding out.
[25:43] Speaker 2: So NIST here did a report and they have the
[25:47] Speaker 2: families there. And they said, well, as we know, it
[25:50] Speaker 2: was the pancake theory. One of the family members as
[25:53] Speaker 2: well said, were there explosives inside the building on 9-11?
[25:59] Speaker 2: And this came back and said, absolutely not. And then
[26:03] Speaker 2: the follow-up question was by, I believe, a reporter who said,
[26:05] Speaker 2: did you guys check? And they said they didn't check.
[26:08] Speaker 2: So how are you going to know if there's explosives
[26:11] Speaker 2: if you didn't check? Hey, Chris, if your house burns down,
[26:13] Speaker 2: the one you're sitting in right now with the really
[26:15] Speaker 2: cool guitar sitting there, it looks like, what is that, Gibson?
[26:18] Speaker 2: I can't see. Anyways, a really cool guitar sitting there.
[26:21] Speaker 2: Your house burns down. Guess what they checked for? Explosives.
[26:26] Speaker 2: It's standard procedure by insurance. Why didn't the insurance check
[26:31] Speaker 2: for explosives? It's also interesting to me that a few
[26:33] Speaker 2: months prior, they took out an insurance policy for planes
[26:36] Speaker 2: hitting the World Trade Center just prior to it happening.
[26:41] Speaker 1: Let's get deeper into the psychological effects, the desired outcomes
[26:48] Speaker 1: of this event. Like I said, it was a series
[26:51] Speaker 1: of events that brought us here. Most likely in our
[26:55] Speaker 1: modern history, it started with the events surrounding World War II,
[26:59] Speaker 1: then the assassination of JFK, all stepping stones to get
[27:03] Speaker 1: where we are. 9-11 was a huge stepping stone to
[27:07] Speaker 1: get to the surveillance state that we're in right now.
[27:11] Speaker 1: But in order to have the impact, you mentioned MKUltra earlier.
[27:16] Speaker 1: In my perspective, MKUltra experimentation was also to get give
[27:22] Speaker 1: them a better understanding of human psychology, a better understanding
[27:27] Speaker 1: than we could ever imagine so that they can manipulate
[27:30] Speaker 1: all of humanity. And I think what once was the
[27:33] Speaker 1: experimentation has been implemented now through social media, pharmaceuticals, high
[27:39] Speaker 1: impact events, traumatic events. As we were talking before we
[27:44] Speaker 1: got on, trauma is one of the main ingredients of
[27:48] Speaker 1: to these operations to get people to go along with
[27:53] Speaker 1: whatever the agenda is, right?
[27:56] Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it goes back to the love spell.
[27:58] Speaker 2: The girl tells you what she's going to do with you.
[28:00] Speaker 2: You know she's going to break your heart, but you
[28:02] Speaker 2: dive in with both feet anyways, knowing what the outcome
[28:05] Speaker 2: is going to be. And then when it happens, you
[28:07] Speaker 2: act like a wounded little duck. And programming is as
[28:10] Speaker 2: big of a part of it as any. And if
[28:12] Speaker 2: you didn't know about all the programming that was happening
[28:15] Speaker 2: prior to 9-11, it was very abundant. It was so
[28:21] Speaker 2: abundant that other people that read symbolism and understood occultism
[28:26] Speaker 2: at the time said, whatever they're going to blame on
[28:29] Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden, don't you believe it. That was William Cooper,
[28:34] Speaker 2: a guy who studied a lot of the ancient occultism
[28:37] Speaker 2: in the books and understood ritualistic magic and the trauma
[28:41] Speaker 2: bonds and mass formation psychosis and the other things that
[28:45] Speaker 2: can be used to steer your mind and control your mind.
[28:49] Speaker 2: And he could see it because, first of all, Beavis
[28:51] Speaker 2: and Butthead, they had magazine scripts of, like, you know,
[28:56] Speaker 2: people's towels on their heads, flying airplanes in the buildings.
[28:59] Speaker 2: You had the lone gunman in X-Files talking about Osama
[29:03] Speaker 2: bin Laden and the World Trade Center being bombed or attacked.
[29:08] Speaker 2: You had the government changing the emergency call. When I
[29:11] Speaker 2: was a kid and there was an emergency, we didn't
[29:14] Speaker 2: have 911. You know what we dialed? Zero. Zero. Right.
[29:18] Speaker 1: Dial the operator.
[29:20] Speaker 2: You dial the operator and they got you right to it.
[29:22] Speaker 2: Why do they have to make a 9-1-1? Why did
[29:24] Speaker 2: the government commission a 9-1-1 option? Why is it that
[29:28] Speaker 2: we have 9-11? Not to mention that there's two twin
[29:32] Speaker 2: towers like an 11 and then you have a crooked
[29:35] Speaker 2: nine like a Pentagon. And, you know, you start looking
[29:38] Speaker 2: at all these things. You start trying to understand the
[29:40] Speaker 2: symbolism and the programming. The years of, oh, 9-11, panic emergency. 9-11,
[29:46] Speaker 2: panic emergency. 9-11, panic emergency. On 9-11, guess what happens?
[29:50] Speaker 2: The biggest emergency and panic allegedly in American history, the
[29:54] Speaker 2: biggest attack on Americans in American history on Earth's soil happens.
[29:58] Speaker 2: Much of it because we were tampering around in other
[30:01] Speaker 2: people's business. And then it turns out, by the way,
[30:04] Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset. We created the
[30:07] Speaker 2: Mujahideen in the 1970s. But if you said that the
[30:10] Speaker 2: day after 9-11, they would ridicule you, think you're nuts,
[30:14] Speaker 2: think you're crazy, and tell you to stop being an
[30:17] Speaker 2: anti-American piece of trash. Everyone was mind-controlled into believing the
[30:22] Speaker 2: narrative because it allowed them to be able to plant
[30:25] Speaker 2: lies on fertile soil. The fact is everyone experienced a
[30:29] Speaker 2: traumatic event. For hours and hours and hours in college,
[30:33] Speaker 2: every class I went to, you saw buildings on fire,
[30:37] Speaker 2: buildings on fire, buildings on fire. 9-11, buildings. Let's talk
[30:41] Speaker 2: about 9-11. Same thing with the Challenger. A phallus into
[30:44] Speaker 2: the air that blew up that had 100% oxygen exploded.
[30:47] Speaker 2: pumped into his chambers and scientists quit nasa because of
[30:51] Speaker 2: it like like you like there are these situations where
[30:54] Speaker 2: we got to start asking questions so chris if i
[30:57] Speaker 2: told you that hey man next time i come over
[30:59] Speaker 2: i'm gonna steal your wallet i'm gonna steal your wallet
[31:02] Speaker 2: bro next time i come and then guess what next
[31:04] Speaker 2: time i come over your wallet's missing and who's the
[31:07] Speaker 2: first person you're gonna think that uh might be the person.
[31:09] Speaker 1: Who took your wallet kriston is the wallet thief man.
[31:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, Kristan the Wallachian. But that's not the case with
[31:16] Speaker 2: the government, who's saying, oh, 9-11 Osama bin Laden, 9-11
[31:19] Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden. Not to mention, one of the creepiest
[31:22] Speaker 2: things in history was in 1962, something called Operation Northwest.
[31:28] Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't know this. Go— Go
[31:31] Speaker 2: to your grok, go to your chat GPT, ask it
[31:34] Speaker 2: to pull up the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act
[31:38] Speaker 2: for Operation Northwest, and read the document where our government,
[31:43] Speaker 2: the CIA, plans to hijack our own airplanes and fly
[31:47] Speaker 2: them into American buildings to justify going to war. with Cuba.
[31:51] Speaker 2: America would never do that, right? Well, it was signed
[31:54] Speaker 2: off by both Joint Chiefs of Staff, and it was
[31:57] Speaker 2: considered the most preposterous plan in history, claimed at JFK,
[32:00] Speaker 2: where he got rid of his Joint Chiefs of Staff
[32:03] Speaker 2: because they wanted to apply this and use this technique.
[32:06] Speaker 2: Not only that, it was the same thing with Remember
[32:09] Speaker 2: the Main to Hell with Spain. We blew up our
[32:11] Speaker 2: own ship. We had Pearl Harbor, where we allowed it
[32:14] Speaker 2: to happen. The trauma allows people to experience It's like
[32:19] Speaker 2: when I was a bartender, and this is going to
[32:22] Speaker 2: sound weird, but whenever a girl would break up with
[32:24] Speaker 2: her dude, they'd come in and talk to me, and
[32:26] Speaker 2: they would crush on me hard. You know why? Because
[32:29] Speaker 2: I was there, I was talking to them, and I
[32:31] Speaker 2: gave them the attention and affection. Their soil was fertile
[32:35] Speaker 2: and willing to gather the information. They were the affection,
[32:39] Speaker 2: the knowledge, and then they've adopted that as gospel, right?
[32:43] Speaker 2: They're looking for answers. And after 9-11, America wanted answers.
[32:47] Speaker 2: And within a few minutes, they knew it was Osama
[32:49] Speaker 2: bin Laden who never admitted to doing it, I believe,
[32:51] Speaker 2: in the first place, which, by the way, he ended
[32:54] Speaker 2: up living longer when he was on dialysis in 2002, 2003.
[32:58] Speaker 2: How did he live until the Obama administration if he
[33:02] Speaker 2: was already on dialysis then? It's very unlikely. And then
[33:05] Speaker 2: you had SEAL Team 6 that went in there and
[33:07] Speaker 2: got them, and most of them died in a helicopter
[33:09] Speaker 2: crash shortly afterwards.
[33:11] Speaker 1: Going back to what you said about the predictive programming,
[33:15] Speaker 1: the things that show up in cinema and media, even literature,
[33:20] Speaker 1: any kind of mass entertainment that is distributed throughout history,
[33:25] Speaker 1: there's always clues and these predictors of things that usually
[33:30] Speaker 1: unfold in the future having to do with very high-impact events.
[33:34] Speaker 1: There's a split in theories on this. Many people would
[33:39] Speaker 1: say that it is all intentional, that there is deep
[33:42] Speaker 1: planning going into a lot of these Hollywood productions and
[33:46] Speaker 1: even literature where it's necessary for ritual sake to include
[33:50] Speaker 1: the information in there. Others believe that there's something maybe
[33:54] Speaker 1: more mystical going on, retrocausal energy because of the power
[33:59] Speaker 1: of these events, it ripples things. information back in time
[34:02] Speaker 1: that shows up throughout different hollywood productions maybe the producers
[34:06] Speaker 1: pick it up through some kind of download and they
[34:09] Speaker 1: have no idea what they're really putting into the films
[34:12] Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on what's going on.
[34:14] Speaker 2: There yeah um i actually sat in a meeting with
[34:18] Speaker 2: the movie producer he did adam sandler's very first movie
[34:22] Speaker 2: i think it was called going overboard, going overboard. Right.
[34:28] Speaker 2: And yeah, right, right, right. But he was, we were
[34:31] Speaker 2: talking about putting together at that time, um, We were
[34:36] Speaker 2: trying to talk the guys from Gray State into doing
[34:39] Speaker 2: potentially the series because, obviously, David Crawley died. And if
[34:45] Speaker 2: you don't know what Gray State is. But the reason
[34:47] Speaker 2: why I'm mentioning this is I'm sitting on this conference
[34:49] Speaker 2: call with this famous Hollywood movie director. And he's talking about, well,
[34:53] Speaker 2: how is it that we can bring in– New futuristic
[34:58] Speaker 2: technology into a movie that we could then sell, like whatever,
[35:03] Speaker 2: like Back to the Future had hoverboards. The idea of
[35:06] Speaker 2: a hoverboard might not be out, but it could be
[35:07] Speaker 2: out in the future, and they could sell it. Product placement. Well,
[35:11] Speaker 2: the government pays millions of dollars to movie theaters. I
[35:15] Speaker 2: bet you hundreds of millions of dollars. to put programming
[35:18] Speaker 2: into television, into TV series. That's why they had socialized
[35:22] Speaker 2: health care on all the TV series and how great
[35:26] Speaker 2: it was prior to Obamacare getting passed. And by the way,
[35:29] Speaker 2: to this very day, Obamacare doesn't have a positive rating.
[35:32] Speaker 2: It was never approved by the general public. It was
[35:35] Speaker 2: the politicians that sold us out that went ahead and
[35:38] Speaker 2: got us the insurance that shouldn't cost more than our
[35:40] Speaker 2: cell phone bill, which now costs as much as like
[35:43] Speaker 2: five or six cell phone bills.
[35:46] Speaker 1: After everything that's unfolded, in your perspective, do you think
[35:51] Speaker 1: the agendas and overall desired goals of the parasitic ruling
[35:57] Speaker 1: class is coming to fruition to their satisfaction? Or do
[36:02] Speaker 1: you think there are problems with the plan that may
[36:07] Speaker 1: cause failures in it?
[36:10] Speaker 2: I think that there's competing factions about what we deem
[36:14] Speaker 2: globalism or... Let's see. I had George Soros recorded at
[36:19] Speaker 2: Davos 2015, and he described the global mafia state. That's
[36:26] Speaker 2: what the New World Order is. the global mafia state.
[36:30] Speaker 2: That's what he called the open society. The open society,
[36:33] Speaker 2: when anyone uses the term open society, that's synonymous with
[36:38] Speaker 2: global mafia state. It's not something I made up. You
[36:41] Speaker 2: can go to the 2015 Davos and see the interview
[36:44] Speaker 2: with George Soros, and he talks about how Donald Trump
[36:47] Speaker 2: is the president for the people at the time. Obviously,
[36:50] Speaker 2: he's kind of changed his tune. All of a sudden,
[36:52] Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton's coming out saying he's a good guy. That's
[36:54] Speaker 2: when you know things have gone downhill. It's just The
[36:58] Speaker 2: whole idea is that the programming is there. They're programming
[37:02] Speaker 2: us to believe something. And they're moving the psychology of
[37:07] Speaker 2: America into this world of transhumanism, of technology, of the
[37:14] Speaker 2: idea of aliens and that we're not alone in this world. When,
[37:19] Speaker 2: in fact, we don't actually have any evidence of aliens. Like,
[37:23] Speaker 2: I want to believe, like, I love X-Files, but when
[37:25] Speaker 2: I talked to Mark D'Antonio, who's like the chief video
[37:29] Speaker 2: forensic guy at MUFON, right? He's also a world's top astronomer.
[37:33] Speaker 2: I asked him at an event where he was giving
[37:38] Speaker 2: a speech about Have there ever been any actual UFO
[37:43] Speaker 2: videos that are actually real that are not fake in
[37:45] Speaker 2: your opinion? He's like, well, there's a couple by the government. Well,
[37:49] Speaker 2: who filmed those? The military. The military filmed them. So
[37:52] Speaker 2: who's going to say they're not advanced aircraft? from the
[37:54] Speaker 2: military to test to see if they would work on
[37:57] Speaker 2: our enemies. We know the Nazis had advanced aircraft. We
[38:00] Speaker 2: knew the Nazis understood combining occultism with science. That's what
[38:05] Speaker 2: you see at CERN with Shiva, the world destroyer, and
[38:07] Speaker 2: the weird dances, and mock child sacrifice, all the other
[38:11] Speaker 2: weird things that happen out there. That's why you see
[38:14] Speaker 2: all these weird emblems that are allegedly claimed to be
[38:16] Speaker 2: on UFOs when people see them. But I think it's
[38:19] Speaker 2: kind of weird because all of a sudden they want
[38:22] Speaker 2: to use this idea of aliens to bring together their
[38:24] Speaker 2: world order to unify the world. Because, you know, nations
[38:28] Speaker 2: act as a floodgate, Chris. If I'm a bad dictator
[38:32] Speaker 2: or a fascist or whatever it might be and I
[38:35] Speaker 2: go evil, there's floodgates of other nations to prevent us
[38:39] Speaker 2: from taking over the world and selling maybe a– chip
[38:43] Speaker 2: in your hand, per se, if you believe in transhumanism
[38:47] Speaker 2: and forcing a central banking digital currency on the world.
[38:51] Speaker 2: Because the world can revolt. There's multiple nations. But there's
[38:54] Speaker 2: a one world government, a new world order, a United Nations,
[38:57] Speaker 2: which all of these terms are an Adam Weishaupt dystopian,
[39:03] Speaker 2: his idea of utopianism in a world of fully automated
[39:07] Speaker 2: luxury communism. And Adam Weishaupt, who ran the Bavarian Illuminati,
[39:12] Speaker 2: was given the mission to help develop a plan for
[39:18] Speaker 2: the world to accept a new world order, a one
[39:20] Speaker 2: world government. That was his whole spiel, you know, his
[39:24] Speaker 2: seven major goals, you know, abolition of the family. What
[39:27] Speaker 2: do we have now? They want to get rid of
[39:29] Speaker 2: the family. Your kid's belong to you. They belong to
[39:32] Speaker 2: the community, Melissa Harris Perry says, Common Core CRT curriculum.
[39:37] Speaker 2: You know, they don't pay for my kids' diapers, right?
[39:39] Speaker 2: We're going to socialize the debt, but we'll capitalize the
[39:42] Speaker 2: profits for everyone. That's the world we live in. And
[39:45] Speaker 2: so they're trying to really look at these things. How
[39:47] Speaker 2: about elimination of inheritance? What is Bill Gates talking about?
[39:51] Speaker 2: He's not going to leave his kids money. He doesn't
[39:53] Speaker 2: believe in inheritance. Abolition of all religions and creation of
[39:58] Speaker 2: a one-world religion. Guess which religion that is? That's the
[40:02] Speaker 2: religion of Aleister Crowley. You know who partied with Aleister Crowley?
[40:05] Speaker 2: A great witch and the most evil man in the world,
[40:08] Speaker 2: the Bushes. Way back, their whole ancestors partied at Bohemian
[40:12] Speaker 2: Grove with the Crawleys. And there was even rumors that
[40:14] Speaker 2: they had, you know, orgies and that George Bush might
[40:17] Speaker 2: be the son of Aleister Crowley, George Bush Jr. I
[40:20] Speaker 2: don't really know. That's a bunch of rabbit holes. But
[40:22] Speaker 2: I will say, I have talked to people that were
[40:25] Speaker 2: married into or part of the Bush family, and they
[40:28] Speaker 2: claim that's all true. Stu Webb claimed that they did
[40:32] Speaker 2: a bizarre council of 13 child sacrifices in Denver on
[40:36] Speaker 2: the fall equinox. And I went to the location where
[40:39] Speaker 2: he claimed that they happened, and it was exactly like
[40:41] Speaker 2: he said it was. It's very interesting what these people believe.
[40:45] Speaker 2: And then when you start reading the Epstein files and
[40:47] Speaker 2: all that, it's just really interesting diving in. But are
[40:50] Speaker 2: they gearing towards a new world order? They're trying to
[40:52] Speaker 2: push it. The old oligarchy is dying. David Rockefeller dead.
[40:58] Speaker 2: Zygmunt Brzezinski dead. Henry Kissinger dead. And you've got this
[41:03] Speaker 2: new group of individuals that are really believing in this
[41:06] Speaker 2: Technology ridden AI is God future. And a whistleblower came
[41:12] Speaker 2: on my show. Her name was Rachel Haywire. And she
[41:15] Speaker 2: was telling me that she's been on billionaire yachts. They
[41:18] Speaker 2: get the AI out and they do these weird rituals
[41:21] Speaker 2: and then they have a big orgy or AKA cuddle
[41:24] Speaker 2: puddle out there in Silicon Valley. So they want to
[41:27] Speaker 2: believe that AI is the god. AI will be god.
[41:31] Speaker 2: So we should worship it now so it doesn't kill us.
[41:33] Speaker 2: So what are all these experts claiming now all of
[41:35] Speaker 2: a sudden? AI is going to kill us. And it's
[41:38] Speaker 2: funny because there's a book that talks about this called
[41:40] Speaker 2: The Bible, which is also– Maybe, by definition, a grimoire,
[41:46] Speaker 2: a book of magic, a programming book that's programmed us
[41:49] Speaker 2: to believe that there's going to be an antichrist individual
[41:53] Speaker 2: that's going to run the world, and it's there to
[41:55] Speaker 2: help us actually be conditioned. That's how the elite use it.
[42:00] Speaker 2: That's why they use it as a roadmap, because they
[42:02] Speaker 2: know Christians are susceptible to this idea, because if it's
[42:05] Speaker 2: God-ordained and it's God-willed, there's nothing you can do to
[42:08] Speaker 2: change it. But if that were the case, we'd all
[42:10] Speaker 2: be speaking German right now. So that's the way I
[42:13] Speaker 2: kind of look at it. And I think that there's
[42:15] Speaker 2: different factions that are struggling for power. When you have
[42:19] Speaker 2: multiple forms of evil, unless there's a supreme guy that
[42:21] Speaker 2: comes up, like in Hitler, I think you're going to
[42:24] Speaker 2: see an individual of that magnitude move forward. And Bill Gates, COVID,
[42:29] Speaker 2: the mRNA, depopulation, eugenics, that's all part of it.
[42:34] Speaker 1: We're in such a strange time when it comes to
[42:37] Speaker 1: information flow and access of information. I remember in 2016,
[42:45] Speaker 1: censorship started really creeping in hard. And by 2018, when
[42:49] Speaker 1: the Alex Jones, Sandy Hook fiasco was going on, they
[42:54] Speaker 1: started clamping down, especially for independent content creators, conspiracies, people
[43:00] Speaker 1: on YouTube that were trying to share information. And by 2020,
[43:05] Speaker 1: when COVID rolled around, censorship was becoming very powerful. And
[43:10] Speaker 1: in full effect, I had my YouTube channel taken down.
[43:14] Speaker 1: I had all kinds of consequences for the things that
[43:17] Speaker 1: I was putting out there, for the information that I
[43:20] Speaker 1: was bringing people's attention to. Seems like last year or
[43:24] Speaker 1: almost a couple of years ago, they started easing up
[43:27] Speaker 1: on that. They gave me back my YouTube channel, gave
[43:31] Speaker 1: many others back their YouTube channel in this space. And
[43:33] Speaker 1: it seems like that information is being openly allowed to
[43:38] Speaker 1: circulate right now. But something else that you can observe
[43:42] Speaker 1: is the amount of misinformation, infiltration, and nonsense that is
[43:48] Speaker 1: circulated within the conspiracy community. Is it that they've already
[43:55] Speaker 1: gone so far with the overall agenda to where this
[43:59] Speaker 1: information no longer matters, the plan is in effect no
[44:03] Speaker 1: matter what we know, or are they throwing so much
[44:08] Speaker 1: information out there that They want us so confused and
[44:13] Speaker 1: mentally unstable because of the information that we wouldn't be
[44:16] Speaker 1: able to do anything about it anyway, or maybe it's
[44:18] Speaker 1: a combination.
[44:19] Speaker 2: What do you think? Well, I think there's something to
[44:23] Speaker 2: be said. First of all, YouTube refused to give me
[44:25] Speaker 2: back my channel. I spoke with the person, the person
[44:30] Speaker 2: in charge of restoring channels. He said he comes from
[44:35] Speaker 2: a culture of conspiracy like me, right? I emailed him.
[44:38] Speaker 2: I can show you the email. And he said, according
[44:42] Speaker 2: to him, my channel was not as bad as many
[44:45] Speaker 2: others that are on YouTube. However, when I expressed to him,
[44:49] Speaker 2: he goes, why do you think your channel is deleted?
[44:51] Speaker 2: And I said, well, it was after I confronted Isabel
[44:53] Speaker 2: Maxwell at the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, Ghislaine's sister, Jeffrey Epstein's cohort.
[45:00] Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, within a couple weeks, my Facebook,
[45:02] Speaker 2: all my YouTube channels, everything was deleted. I had millions
[45:06] Speaker 2: of views gone. And when he came back to me,
[45:09] Speaker 2: he's like, well, 100% I can get you an answer.
[45:11] Speaker 2: They always give me an answer. They refused my reinstatement
[45:15] Speaker 2: multiple times. They refused to give him an answer. And
[45:18] Speaker 2: then finally he came back and he goes, okay, I
[45:20] Speaker 2: kind of got something for you. He goes, you know
[45:22] Speaker 2: that scenario you talked about a while ago with, you know,
[45:26] Speaker 2: Blaine Maxwell and all these, like, powerful people you've confronted?
[45:30] Speaker 2: There's something there. And then he left it at that.
[45:32] Speaker 2: Never got my channel back. However, I was able to
[45:35] Speaker 2: start a new channel, the Rundown Live. You can find
[45:38] Speaker 2: it out there. I'm thinking about starting a new show.
[45:40] Speaker 2: And I was hit by censorship. I had a page
[45:42] Speaker 2: with 1.2 million followers removed that I was part of.
[45:45] Speaker 2: There's a lot of things, the Free Thought Project, the anti-media,
[45:48] Speaker 2: millions and millions of followers all lost their social media presence.
[45:51] Speaker 2: A lot of those things never came back. YouTube kind
[45:54] Speaker 2: of went lenient, but Facebook didn't reinstate anyone. Twitter didn't
[45:57] Speaker 2: reinstate anyone other than Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones, which
[46:01] Speaker 2: I agree with, you know, freedoms of speech, you know,
[46:04] Speaker 2: regardless of I agree with what Nick Fuentes has to
[46:06] Speaker 2: say or not, or Alex Jones, they have a right
[46:08] Speaker 2: to say whatever they want. Otherwise, I won't. But yeah,
[46:11] Speaker 2: I think that they've gotten easier for a couple of reasons.
[46:14] Speaker 2: I believe that financially, they hurt themselves gravely. And at
[46:18] Speaker 2: this point, people were leaving their platform. They're afraid of
[46:22] Speaker 2: people leaving the platform. Where were people going? BitChute, Rumble, Rockfin,
[46:28] Speaker 2: all these other platforms were booming. Kik, you could go
[46:31] Speaker 2: on and on, you know, the Twitch. People were leaving YouTube.
[46:36] Speaker 2: And it wasn't becoming viable anymore because no one could
[46:39] Speaker 2: publish anything without being censored or being flayed. And it
[46:43] Speaker 2: came to the point where nobody wanted to use their product.
[46:45] Speaker 2: So you can't run a Stasi-like operation if nobody wants
[46:49] Speaker 2: to use or everyone opts out of YouTube. Or if
[46:52] Speaker 2: everyone opts out of Facebook. The only thing people are
[46:55] Speaker 2: using YouTube for these days, prior to the last couple years,
[47:00] Speaker 2: is learning how to knit or change your tire or
[47:02] Speaker 2: fix your car or something, right? You wouldn't go there
[47:05] Speaker 2: for anything truthful because all you got was the staple propaganda,
[47:10] Speaker 2: you know, talking pieces. who are just spewing whatever bullshit
[47:14] Speaker 2: they want to dispute. So I think that the algorithms
[47:17] Speaker 2: have gotten easier out of necessity to be able to
[47:20] Speaker 2: allow whatever it is they want us to believe. So
[47:23] Speaker 2: let me, can I pivot here? I talked about Nimrod
[47:28] Speaker 2: and Semiramis, the Whore of Babylon. That's what the Statue
[47:33] Speaker 2: of Liberty is made after, Semiramis. If you look up
[47:36] Speaker 2: the Medal of Honor and who's on the Medal of Honor,
[47:39] Speaker 2: they mentioned that the Statue of Liberty is based off
[47:41] Speaker 2: of Semiramis, the Hora Babylon, as the Bible describes her.
[47:46] Speaker 2: She created the mystery religion with Nimrod. That's where you
[47:50] Speaker 2: get the moon goddess, the sun goddess, and there are
[47:53] Speaker 2: a thousand points of light. And so all of a sudden,
[47:56] Speaker 2: we had this QAnon phenomenon that was basically peddled by
[48:00] Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, we're finding out. We're finding out that Boris Nikolai,
[48:05] Speaker 2: Bill Gates' right-hand man, introduced Jeffrey Epstein to the guy
[48:10] Speaker 2: who created the politically incorrect forum in which to respond
[48:15] Speaker 2: to almost the next day after his meeting. So it
[48:18] Speaker 2: was controlled resistance. We also knew that Lee Maxwell ran
[48:22] Speaker 2: two of the biggest Reddit, the political Reddit and the
[48:24] Speaker 2: conspiracy Reddit. Why is it that they were running them?
[48:27] Speaker 2: So they could control the narrative of the conspiracy, plausible
[48:30] Speaker 2: deniability that they could put the truth out there. And
[48:34] Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have these conservatives that are
[48:36] Speaker 2: raiding the Capitol because of Q, because where we want
[48:39] Speaker 2: to all go, we all go wander, whatever. And, um,
[48:42] Speaker 2: You know, now we have that out there where people
[48:46] Speaker 2: believe a bunch of bullshit. We know it came from
[48:48] Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. But where are these QAnon followers going? Well,
[48:51] Speaker 2: I can tell you where they're going. They're going to
[48:54] Speaker 2: the Starseed culture. Starseed threw over 1.2 billion views a year. 1.2
[48:59] Speaker 2: billion views. If me and you did a video on 9-11, oh,
[49:02] Speaker 2: that's what we're doing now. Nobody will see it. I'm
[49:08] Speaker 2: not saying nobody will see your video. I'm just saying
[49:10] Speaker 2: nobody will see it. But if we did, if me
[49:12] Speaker 2: and you came out trans-alien and that we identified as
[49:17] Speaker 2: being from a different planet, we could get 1.2 billion views.
[49:21] Speaker 2: Do you know how much money that industry comes in?
[49:24] Speaker 2: I asked Rock, and it said the potential of the
[49:26] Speaker 2: industry is somewhere near... $ 6. 8 billion industry. That includes Gaia,
[49:32] Speaker 2: that includes Psychic, that includes Membership. That's where they're all going,
[49:37] Speaker 2: because now you have these people like April Elizabeth talking about, oh,
[49:40] Speaker 2: QAnon and the children. Not QAnon, but the children and Epstein,
[49:45] Speaker 2: and they're mixing it with the Starseed culture. And as
[49:48] Speaker 2: you know, Starz And luminaries are that of the Illuminati,
[49:52] Speaker 2: of the occultism, of the mystery religion, which is the
[49:55] Speaker 2: antithesis of the alleged God. Now, some people think, you know, Christon,
[50:00] Speaker 2: you don't understand because, you know, we have the Knights
[50:04] Speaker 2: Templar that believe that the Christian Bible is that of
[50:08] Speaker 2: a different God. It's a, what do they call them?
[50:10] Speaker 2: A demi.
[50:12] Speaker 1: The demiurge?
[50:13] Speaker 2: The demiurge. Well, the issue is with the whole Gnosticism thing.
[50:17] Speaker 2: There was two schools of thoughts of Gnosticism. Right? You
[50:21] Speaker 2: have the Magi, it was his name, Sam, I believe
[50:24] Speaker 2: it was. He was a Sam Magnus who was trying
[50:28] Speaker 2: to buy his way into Jesus' tribe of 12, which
[50:32] Speaker 2: he got denied. He was the one that came up
[50:34] Speaker 2: with all of those ideologies. He's the one that came
[50:37] Speaker 2: up with the demi-urgist. Now, Jesus might have talked about
[50:41] Speaker 2: the Pistosophia and things like that, that a lot of
[50:44] Speaker 2: people like and want to talk about. But there's no
[50:47] Speaker 2: real guarantee that the demi-urgist is actually the God of
[50:50] Speaker 2: the Bible. People want to give that ideology. They want
[50:54] Speaker 2: to loosely base it off of Gnosticism. But Gnosticism in
[50:57] Speaker 2: and of itself, in part, is inherently Christian. The mystery religion.
[51:03] Speaker 2: It's essentially the mystery Babylon religion. It's astrotheology. Astrotheology is
[51:09] Speaker 2: the symbolism in which you work. You have astrology and
[51:12] Speaker 2: the 12 followers of Jesus. You have the 12 zodiac signs.
[51:15] Speaker 2: You have the sun that goes through each zodiac sign
[51:17] Speaker 2: at the 30th degree. Exodus at the 33rd degree. Jesus
[51:21] Speaker 2: starts his ministry at 30 degrees. dies at 33, you
[51:24] Speaker 2: have the four seasons, you got the four gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke,
[51:28] Speaker 2: and John. And I'm saying that every religion is permeated
[51:31] Speaker 2: with it. And when they talk about the mystery religion
[51:33] Speaker 2: in the biblical sense, it's always as the antithesis, the
[51:38] Speaker 2: perversion of God's religion and culture. I'm not saying astrology
[51:41] Speaker 2: is bad. I'm not saying astrotheology is bad. I'm just
[51:45] Speaker 2: telling you that there's people out there that are investing
[51:48] Speaker 2: and buying into the idea that they're trans-alien and Because
[51:51] Speaker 2: of the fact that they're different and weird. There's some
[51:54] Speaker 2: hot blonde who's a little dissy and nobody understands them
[51:56] Speaker 2: because they're a little airheaded, so they must be trans-alien.
[51:59] Speaker 2: And if you look at most of these starseeds, they
[52:01] Speaker 2: fit in that. They all have cultures of talking about
[52:04] Speaker 2: how they come from narcissistic parents. What happens if you
[52:07] Speaker 2: have a narcissistic parent? You most likely become prone to
[52:10] Speaker 2: some kind of narcissism. And I'm not saying they are.
[52:13] Speaker 2: I'm not just telling you that. They call themselves narcissists.
[52:16] Speaker 2: They say that there's an issue in epidemic and starseed
[52:18] Speaker 2: culture of narcissism. Well, of course there is. You can
[52:21] Speaker 2: avoid all accountability. You create a new reality. You weren't
[52:25] Speaker 2: abused as a child. That could never happen to you.
[52:27] Speaker 2: You're just moved to a higher plane and dimension. You're
[52:30] Speaker 2: in the fourth vibration of course you're here to bring
[52:32] Speaker 2: in a world into enlightenment because you can't face your
[52:36] Speaker 2: your own you know your own problems and you can't
[52:39] Speaker 2: face the trauma that actually brought you here so you
[52:42] Speaker 2: adopt these ideas and it works for you and all
[52:45] Speaker 2: of a sudden you're making money and people are you
[52:47] Speaker 2: know because you tell them happy things and you tell
[52:49] Speaker 2: them good things You know, it's funny, in the Bible,
[52:52] Speaker 2: it says something along the lines where when people go
[52:56] Speaker 2: to heaven and they talk to Jesus, and they said,
[52:58] Speaker 2: I've done all these good things in your work, and
[53:00] Speaker 2: he said, go away from me, I never knew you.
[53:02] Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you, there's a lot of
[53:03] Speaker 2: people that are using this ideology. Now, again, I'm not
[53:06] Speaker 2: technically a Christian. I'm a follower of Yeshua ben Pantera. Yeshua,
[53:10] Speaker 2: he was the person that Jesus Christ is named after
[53:13] Speaker 2: or represents. Right? Yeshua represents. His teachings are bigger the sinner,
[53:19] Speaker 2: bigger the saint, meaning if you're a piece of shit
[53:21] Speaker 2: like Bill Gates, if you become saved, you can become
[53:24] Speaker 2: a better person. You can change your life. And I
[53:25] Speaker 2: think they had that in almost all cultures. In Egypt,
[53:29] Speaker 2: they had the phoenix rising from the ashes. You can
[53:32] Speaker 2: become a new man, to be born again. That's what
[53:35] Speaker 2: John the Baptist taught when he was baptizing people. You
[53:38] Speaker 2: were put underwater. You were dead alive. dead to the world,
[53:41] Speaker 2: and then you're brought to life again. That's the idea
[53:43] Speaker 2: of the phoenix rising from the ashes. In Babylon, you
[53:47] Speaker 2: had something similar. The trinities are all there. All these
[53:50] Speaker 2: cultures have borrowed from each other. So moving forward and
[53:54] Speaker 2: diving into this, the world is programming you. The Bible
[53:57] Speaker 2: is a program. All these books are programs, whether it's
[54:02] Speaker 2: Aleister Crowley, Anton LaVey, whether it's Grim Wars, witchcraft, Wiccanism,
[54:08] Speaker 2: you know, Jehovah Witness, what are the Mormons, you name it, whatever,
[54:12] Speaker 2: Lutheran Catholicism, Greek Orthodox, they all have adopted this occultism
[54:19] Speaker 2: and this kind of pantheon of gods. as a form
[54:23] Speaker 2: and perversion of what people believe to be the true religion,
[54:27] Speaker 2: which I'm not here to tell you what it is.
[54:29] Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you whether you go to
[54:30] Speaker 2: heaven or hell. That's above my pay grade. I'm just
[54:32] Speaker 2: telling you that if you're a good person, we can
[54:34] Speaker 2: be great friends, right, if you're going to admit to
[54:36] Speaker 2: being wrong. So I think that there's this world of hate.
[54:39] Speaker 2: That's why the elitists hate the idea of Christ. It's
[54:42] Speaker 2: because of the fact that they believe he's the perversion
[54:44] Speaker 2: of their astro-theological religion, and the Christians believe that it
[54:47] Speaker 2: was literal and that there was a person named Christ
[54:50] Speaker 2: who died and rose again. So that's kind of what
[54:53] Speaker 2: we're seeing here. And how do they want to destroy it? Well,
[54:56] Speaker 2: have you ever read Albert Pike's Three World Wars, where
[54:59] Speaker 2: he talks about World War I, World War II, World
[55:02] Speaker 2: War III? And it was written in the 1800s, the
[55:05] Speaker 2: letter to Giuseppe Mazzini. And it was in the library
[55:08] Speaker 2: in Britain in the 1900s, early 1900s. It was seen
[55:12] Speaker 2: and written about. And how he talked about in the
[55:14] Speaker 2: end days, Christians will be– or the Islamists will be
[55:19] Speaker 2: pinned against the Jews. Right? So what are we seeing
[55:22] Speaker 2: right now with Iran and Israel? Yeah. And so what
[55:26] Speaker 2: do you... Everything Albert Pike wrote, it was like he
[55:29] Speaker 2: wrote it knowing, and he was a part of many
[55:32] Speaker 2: of these occultic groups, the Knights of Paladin. He took
[55:35] Speaker 2: over the reins of the Illuminati from Giuseppe Mazzini. That's known.
[55:39] Speaker 2: That's history. You can talk to Leo Lanzagami. He was
[55:42] Speaker 2: a former member of the Illuminati. A good friend of
[55:45] Speaker 2: mine now. He's a born-again Christian. Not saying that everyone
[55:48] Speaker 2: should go that direction, but you should lead by your
[55:51] Speaker 2: good works. If you're a witch and you do good things,
[55:53] Speaker 2: you're a good person by my book. I'm not going
[55:55] Speaker 2: to try to convert you, but... You know, if that's
[55:58] Speaker 2: who you are, you're a good person, you're a good person, right?
[56:00] Speaker 2: I'm not here to ridicule you based on your life choices.
[56:03] Speaker 1: Last few minutes, I want to get your perspective on
[56:07] Speaker 1: where we're going with, quote unquote, disclosure. You mentioned the
[56:12] Speaker 1: New Age movement, which seems to be a form of
[56:16] Speaker 1: Luciferianism that has been rebranded to speak to people looking
[56:22] Speaker 1: for answers in our modern age. Also, the extraterrestrial starseed
[56:28] Speaker 1: galactic federation narrative woven into that. We have two camps
[56:33] Speaker 1: of thinking, one being that from the New Age movement specifically,
[56:38] Speaker 1: being that they are our saviors, our creators, and they
[56:42] Speaker 1: will be coming back to assist us. And then the
[56:45] Speaker 1: other side coming from our mainstream government disclosure is alluding
[56:50] Speaker 1: to the possibility that they will be the next unseen enemy.
[56:54] Speaker 1: that daddy government has to protect us from. So two
[56:58] Speaker 1: possibilities coming down the pipe. I think both are completely
[57:02] Speaker 1: controlled to steer the collective consciousness in one direction or another.
[57:08] Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about where we're going with
[57:10] Speaker 1: this closure?
[57:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, the Galactic Federation of Light. I met some of
[57:14] Speaker 2: the people that are followers of this that contact in
[57:18] Speaker 2: the desert. Do you know who the leader of the
[57:23] Speaker 2: Galactic Federation of Light is? Do you know who that is?
[57:26] Speaker 1: Like Ashtar or something like that?
[57:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashtar. Who is Ashtaroth?
[57:33] Speaker 1: It's ancient Babylonian deity, right?
[57:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, that guard's house. So this has been my big question.
[57:43] Speaker 2: I do believe that there are people that have sixth sense,
[57:45] Speaker 2: that there is... There are people that have psychic abilities,
[57:50] Speaker 2: but the issue is, is how do you know you're
[57:52] Speaker 2: not just talking to a demon? People will be like, well,
[57:54] Speaker 2: I was the only person in that room 10 years ago.
[57:56] Speaker 2: How can they know this? How can they know this
[57:58] Speaker 2: about my mother? They weren't there. Well, maybe a demon
[58:00] Speaker 2: was in the present. Maybe an angel was present. You know,
[58:03] Speaker 2: I had L.A. Marzulli on my show, The Rundown Live.
[58:05] Speaker 2: You can find it on Rumble. You can follow me,
[58:08] Speaker 2: Chris Don Harris, on Facebook. Find The Rundown Live on YouTube.
[58:12] Speaker 2: uh youtube uh you can find it there and i
[58:14] Speaker 2: had ellie marzulli on and i wanted to have him
[58:17] Speaker 2: on because he's probably one of two people that theologically
[58:21] Speaker 2: is the background and he echoes what the government has
[58:26] Speaker 2: been saying the pentagon has come out and said that
[58:28] Speaker 2: aliens are demons we cannot do this can't have disclosure
[58:33] Speaker 2: and ellie marzulli is told that these beings much like
[58:38] Speaker 2: uh Okay, let me phrase it this way. If we
[58:42] Speaker 2: were to travel galaxies, would it be easier for us
[58:46] Speaker 2: through synthetic biology to create a life form that could
[58:49] Speaker 2: handle space, as in a human drone, and have chips
[58:52] Speaker 2: in its brain to go and communicate? And if you
[58:54] Speaker 2: create one of these biologicals, could they be possessed? Because
[58:58] Speaker 2: out throughout the Bible, they talk about demons needing a
[59:01] Speaker 2: body to be possessed. That's why Christ, instead of destroying
[59:05] Speaker 2: the demons, he cast them into the pigs. They needed
[59:07] Speaker 2: to be, they need to be able to possess something.
[59:09] Speaker 2: Then the pigs wouldn't drown themselves. So they can be free,
[59:12] Speaker 2: whatever it was. But like, what are these things? And
[59:16] Speaker 2: he subscribes to the idea that aliens are biological beings
[59:22] Speaker 2: that are possessed by demons. And they come from an interdimensional,
[59:25] Speaker 2: interdimensional location. Now, My issue is if aliens are demons, well,
[59:34] Speaker 2: then that must mean aliens also must be angels. Because
[59:38] Speaker 2: angels are basically– demons are angels that were in the
[59:44] Speaker 2: losing battle, the third that rejected God in space, and
[59:48] Speaker 2: then they came to this planet, recolonized it, created Atlantis.
[59:51] Speaker 2: That's what the books of Enoch teach. That's what the
[59:54] Speaker 2: preachers teach, even though they don't preach Enoch in the
[59:57] Speaker 2: esoteric books of the Bible, which I've read. I think
[59:59] Speaker 2: that they're worth reading for everyone. Sumerian texts talk about
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: them coming here and making man to mine gold. Maybe
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: there's some truth to that, too, you know, and living
[1:00:09] Speaker 2: for many years, the fountain of youth and all that stuff.
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: I think that William Cooper had a very interesting document,
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: which I have. I need to publish it. It's the
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: indictment of MJ-12, and it talks about there being four
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: known species of aliens, one that was Nordic and humic-like, right?
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: And by the way, the Nordic type are Aryan. Isn't
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: that racist? It's funny, Starseeds, they subscribe to the Nordic
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: type or the alien Nordics. They're immediately signed in with
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: the world society, dual society, and Nazism. There's very racist
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: roots in Starseeds, a lot of people don't realize. But
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: like when we start diving into all this, like I
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: really don't know what to believe. Like I'm a reporter.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: I'm a journalist. I do believe that there are evil
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: spirits and that there are good spirits. That's why you
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: got gin and other cultures. Right. They're just different names
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: for the same things. There's something here. There's exorcisms. That's
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: a real thing that people experience. Whether or not it's
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: a mental illness, that's another debate. I mean, but I
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: think when it comes to UFOs, who's to say that
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: they're not going to create some animal-human chimera and just
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: bring it out and say the aliens are here, you know? Yeah.
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: Do I believe that they could have spaceships? Absolutely. There
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: could be something like that. Am I close-minded to not
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: believe that if there is an omnipotent creator that permeates
[1:01:30] Speaker 2: life throughout the galaxy and the universe and the world
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: that he could have created life in other places? Absolutely.
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: There could be life in other places. The thing is
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: we need to tread lightly because all we've learned from history,
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: all throughout history, is that We end up creating our
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: own demise, right, at the end of the day. AI
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: created our own demise. World flood, we created our own demise.
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: The story of Adam and Eve, the CIA document, talks
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: about how this world has had many restarting points. And
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: maybe that's why there's so many different religions that have
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: different origin points in history. And it's because of the
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: fact that the world constantly is getting destroyed and we're
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: not learning from history anymore. So I think that there
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: are some threats with AI. There's some things to be
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: worried about. I think that UFOs are going to be used,
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: much like we were told by the former Nazi scientist,
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: what was his name, that worked on Area 51. Wernher
[1:02:27] Speaker 2: von Braun. Warner Von Braun is deathbed. We warned about
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: Project Blue Beam, where they're going to use the UFOs
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: to bring in a New World Order global government. I
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to be real. The question is,
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: I don't trust my government. If the government is supporting
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: it and wants transparency, what are they using it for?
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: And again, it's mind control. It's all about controlling your mind.
[1:02:48] Speaker 2: And the question is, who thinks for you, or do
[1:02:51] Speaker 2: you think for yourself? And I think most people prefer
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: having somebody else to think for them. And that's one
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: thing I would like for you guys all to learn
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: on the show is think for yourself, question everything and
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: don't believe it unless you can prove it with your
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: own two hands.
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: They need us to manifest an outcome. They don't have
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: the creative power or the spiritual connection to bring about
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: or manifest these outcomes. They plant the seeds in our subconscious.
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: So we will bring about the outcomes that they desire.
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: The more we check out of that, right?
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: We're the sacrifice. We are.
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: But the more we check out, the more we rely
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: on ourselves and not daddy government and these anti-human operations,
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: the better off we are, essentially. We just have to
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: check out of as much as we can.
[1:03:42] Speaker 2: And you want to make sure that whatever you do
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: is based on sound truths. I mean, like people selling
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: you a bunch of hogwash about your soul coming from
[1:03:52] Speaker 2: another planet. How do you know that? Like, how can
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: you prove that scientifically? They're selling you a new reality.
[1:03:58] Speaker 2: They're selling you a higher vibration. They're selling you a
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: loving life. But at the end of the day, where
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: does your soul go? Does it go to a place
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: that you want? Or is it going to go to
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: where everyone else is going? And the end of days
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: or the end of an age, the age of Aquarius
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: is here, right? The end of an age happened with
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: the age of Pisces. That's the fisher for men. And
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: then you have the different ages in the Bible that
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: are talked about for, you know, the calfs. that they
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: worshiped and every astrological zodiac sign or Maserat, you know,
[1:04:28] Speaker 2: has been used throughout history. The question is, as the
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: map is out there, the question is, is how are
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: we going to answer it? And how are we going
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: to build our community? And how are we going to protest?
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: I'm so proud of Americans with flock cameras. They'll come
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: out there and they'll say, well, they track your cell phone,
[1:04:43] Speaker 2: so why do you care about flock? Well, if they
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: track your cell phones, I guess they don't need flock.
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: The reason why they need flock is because they don't
[1:04:49] Speaker 2: have a warrant to go search stuff. So there's a
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: lot of things out there, but, you know, get rid
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: of the commie cam. Thanks for having me on to
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: talk about 9-11. Investigate 9-11. By the way, one last
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: thing on 9-11, one big truth bomb. Yeah. The fact
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: that somebody took out hedges against all the airlines involved
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: in 9-11 and made a ton of money and still
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: hasn't collected on that money is an interesting story.
[1:05:11] Speaker 1: Chris Don, thank you so much. We'll definitely be doing
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: this again. And until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening.
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Chris.
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: We'll talk again tomorrow.
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: See you all then.
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