# RBG Clips: Massie vs Epstein | Kristan Harris

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 3 Jun 2026, 15 min.

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## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: This is a clip from Raised by Giants. You can
[0:05] Speaker 1: access the entire episode now on our website and all
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[0:10] Speaker 2: Where is our stimulus? Christan? Wasn't that a big thing?
[0:15] Speaker 2: Wasn't that going to be a big thing?
[0:16] Speaker 1: That?
[0:16] Speaker 2: You know, Elon Musk found all of this fraud and waste,
[0:19] Speaker 2: and we were supposed to get this giant stimulus check.
[0:22] Speaker 2: I think it was supposed to be like two thousand
[0:24] Speaker 2: dollars or whatever. But I believe that that was kind
[0:27] Speaker 2: of the first real chink in the armor early on.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Was because Elon Musk had this early out right, he
[0:37] Speaker 2: was there for like what around two weeks, you know, that.
[0:41] Speaker 1: A thing where the trillions of dollars just went missing, right,
[0:44] Speaker 1: and Bono is going around saying how horrible the United
[0:47] Speaker 1: States is because he doesn't understand the whole picture. That only,
[0:50] Speaker 1: like I think, only a fraction of the percentage of
[0:52] Speaker 1: the money that was supposed to be allotted towards things
[0:55] Speaker 1: like Bono is little, you know, feeding the poor, feeding
[0:58] Speaker 1: the starving and third world countries. You know, most of
[1:01] Speaker 1: the money went into nobody knows where it went. It
[1:03] Speaker 1: just disappeared. It's completely gone. In fact, you know, if
[1:06] Speaker 1: somebody owned a company, they would probably be delisted from
[1:09] Speaker 1: any kind of stock exchange and put in jail for
[1:11] Speaker 1: what the government has done. But there was never any
[1:13] Speaker 1: follow up. And yeah, those stimulus checks. I think the
[1:16] Speaker 1: big argument with the stimulus checks and jout doges like
[1:19] Speaker 1: how are you gonna get back two thousand dollars when
[1:20] Speaker 1: you're like, what thirty five trillion dollars in debt and counting?
[1:24] Speaker 1: Like don't we have to pay some of that off?
[1:25] Speaker 1: Like where's the money coming from at the end of
[1:27] Speaker 1: the day, Like what did they find? Thirty five trillion dollars?
[1:30] Speaker 1: So they found it? Okay, then we're not dead. But
[1:32] Speaker 1: that's not the case. We are still enslaved to other countries,
[1:35] Speaker 1: and we are enslaved to these multinational corporatus and mostly
[1:40] Speaker 1: the international bankers, which predominantly we can see through different
[1:44] Speaker 1: types of funds and payacks and lobbyism. They will throw
[1:48] Speaker 1: it around to get rid of their adversaries. People are
[1:50] Speaker 1: upset about this, so like, so we're looking at this,
[1:53] Speaker 1: so doj doge failed? Right that you know, Donald Trump
[1:58] Speaker 1: campaigning about how horrible of an idea it would be.
[2:00] Speaker 1: It'd be a big mistake. It would be a big
[2:02] Speaker 1: mistake to go in Tyran, and here we are, we're
[2:05] Speaker 1: into Iran. At the height of the Epstein files, right,
[2:09] Speaker 1: not to mention also the height of the you know,
[2:13] Speaker 1: UFO Disclosure files, which has been predominantly a big nothing burger.
[2:17] Speaker 1: Although McCaslin and a bunch of scientists have disappeared or
[2:21] Speaker 1: have died or killed themselves, faked their deaths. There's all
[2:24] Speaker 1: these conspiracies out there, but people are missing. And that's
[2:27] Speaker 1: not a new thing. You mean, I could go through
[2:29] Speaker 1: a list for the last thirty years a scientists that
[2:32] Speaker 1: mysteriously died and got missing. Big pharma has been plugging
[2:35] Speaker 1: away at they had cures, who were working on reversing autism,
[2:38] Speaker 1: or cures for skin cancer using CBDs or all sorts
[2:42] Speaker 1: of revolutionary treatments they just didn't want people to have,
[2:45] Speaker 1: or they just conveniently died, you know, suspiciously after people
[2:50] Speaker 1: warned that, hey, they found a cure for cancer and
[2:53] Speaker 1: then they die that kind of thing, or they lost
[2:55] Speaker 1: the cure all of a sudden, you know, interesting stories,
[2:57] Speaker 1: and so missing scientists is nothing new, but all that
[3:00] Speaker 1: came out as an aftermath of the Epstein Files. Like
[3:04] Speaker 1: the Epstein files are slowly now making their way back
[3:08] Speaker 1: into the news, and I don't think they're going to
[3:09] Speaker 1: go away this time.
[3:11] Speaker 2: Well, it's just so interesting when you go back to me.
[3:13] Speaker 2: You look at this from like the beginning of the
[3:16] Speaker 2: second term of the Trump presidency, and you look at
[3:20] Speaker 2: Elon Musk and you look at Trump. I mean, there
[3:22] Speaker 2: was a period of time where he was doing all
[3:24] Speaker 2: the doge stuff at the White House and no one
[3:27] Speaker 2: saw him for a while. People were posting photos of
[3:31] Speaker 2: Elon and a sleeping bag at the White House. Do
[3:34] Speaker 2: you remember that? And then all of a sudden, he's like,
[3:37] Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm done, it's over. And I was kind
[3:40] Speaker 2: of under the impression that he was going to have
[3:44] Speaker 2: kind of a permanent place within the Trump administration, right,
[3:48] Speaker 2: and then he emerges with a giant black eye. Do
[3:53] Speaker 2: you remember that at the White House picture? You had this,
[3:56] Speaker 2: you know, the panda the black eye that he had
[4:01] Speaker 2: around his either. And this feud then starts between Trump
[4:06] Speaker 2: and Elon, and then Elon's saying that Trump is in
[4:08] Speaker 2: the Epstein files. That's why they're never going to be released.
[4:11] Speaker 2: It's weird, bro, It's really weird thinking back on all
[4:14] Speaker 2: this stuff, and of course all the events that you know,
[4:18] Speaker 2: let us here, you know, they.
[4:21] Speaker 1: Forget about it, right, right, So it's all smoke and mirrors,
[4:25] Speaker 1: and there's there's something true, Like I'll talk to my
[4:28] Speaker 1: journalist friends and they're like, well, I can hold more
[4:31] Speaker 1: than one thought at one time, right, I can be
[4:33] Speaker 1: concerned about disclosure, and I ran and the Epstein files.
[4:37] Speaker 1: But the true issue is most of Americans don't have
[4:39] Speaker 1: the time. Most of them were like it was their
[4:41] Speaker 1: hobby to dive into the Epstein files. See what kind
[4:43] Speaker 1: of trasures in the Epstein files. I mean, there's probably
[4:46] Speaker 1: millions of documents that haven't been looked at even yet
[4:49] Speaker 1: that are in the Epstein files that may be relevant.
[4:51] Speaker 1: They might be duplicates, they might be dumb stuff, you know,
[4:54] Speaker 1: and there might be some more interesting stuff. All I
[4:57] Speaker 1: know is that they didn't want people to go there,
[4:59] Speaker 1: and I want a lot of it might be because
[5:01] Speaker 1: Trump's legacy will forever be tarnished as the protector of PTOs,
[5:06] Speaker 1: because of the fact that there was no grand jury
[5:09] Speaker 1: to go after these horrible individuals that were taking advantage
[5:14] Speaker 1: of underage women that were being trafficked to them. And
[5:17] Speaker 1: we know that because Glon Maxwell's in jail for trafficking children.
[5:20] Speaker 1: But to who the people in the Epstein files, Well,
[5:23] Speaker 1: where's the investigation? Why are all these names being blacked out?
[5:26] Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for Thomas Massey really forcing the
[5:30] Speaker 1: issue him and Rocanna, this would have never happened, This
[5:33] Speaker 1: would have never came out. And obviously the Epstein isles
[5:37] Speaker 1: of files. Excuse me, is another main reason why Marjorie
[5:40] Speaker 1: Taylor Green punched out early.
[5:43] Speaker 2: That's the thing is after Elon Right, then it was
[5:48] Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green her resignation. Then after that was Joe Kent,
[5:53] Speaker 2: the Director of counter Terrorism resigning, and then Tulsi Gabbert,
[5:58] Speaker 2: the Director of National Intelligence resigning, so and hers was
[6:02] Speaker 2: for a different reason. But I feel like that, you know,
[6:05] Speaker 2: it's just kind of suspicious. So really, the only person
[6:08] Speaker 2: that we're kind of left with here is rfk Right.
[6:13] Speaker 2: He's the only one from the original Trump cabinet that
[6:18] Speaker 2: people were really excited about that is still in there.
[6:22] Speaker 2: This lasted longer than a year.
[6:25] Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one. He's the one shining shiny
[6:28] Speaker 1: spot that Donald Trump has. He when you talk about
[6:30] Speaker 1: the cleanest, dirtiest shirt, that's going to be the Robert F.
[6:33] Speaker 1: Kennedy And I think it's because Robert F. Kennedy also
[6:36] Speaker 1: plays politics, but at the same time he does investigate,
[6:40] Speaker 1: like weary some things. He's talking about geoengineering now, which
[6:43] Speaker 1: does it? Which is is not supposed to exist? There
[6:46] Speaker 1: are no such things as ken trails, and you have
[6:49] Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy talking about you know, it could be
[6:52] Speaker 1: a DARPA project and bringing validation to the concerns because
[6:56] Speaker 1: if they use what's called stratusfy was it Wells box
[6:59] Speaker 1: stratus sphere aerosol injunctions, it's toxic like aluminum, it's barium,
[7:05] Speaker 1: it's you know, I can't remember. There's a couple other
[7:08] Speaker 1: ingredients involved with it, but aluminum oxide accumulatively could be toxic.
[7:13] Speaker 1: It could cause bees to have Alzheimer's and not find
[7:15] Speaker 1: it their way back to the hives. Well, what are
[7:18] Speaker 1: some of the major news stories we're hearing now about bumblebees.
[7:21] Speaker 1: Bumble bees are struggling to find their way back to
[7:24] Speaker 1: the hives. They have Alzheimer's. Well, what's causing the Alzheimer's?
[7:27] Speaker 1: Could it be aluminum oxides from wells Bach stratospheric aerosol
[7:31] Speaker 1: injunctions you the cloud seeding, per se and weather modification.
[7:36] Speaker 1: Not only that, it causes Alzheimer's and humans, and then
[7:38] Speaker 1: it prevents plants from re upping their nutrients. So the
[7:42] Speaker 1: question is is how long how much does this impact
[7:45] Speaker 1: our environment? When it's a cumulative over years and years
[7:48] Speaker 1: and years. The problem is that EPA doesn't check for it,
[7:51] Speaker 1: you know, y writer, it's because it's below what was
[7:55] Speaker 1: it below one nanoparticle of size. Maybe it's a half
[7:58] Speaker 1: less than a half a nanometer apart of size. Whatever
[8:01] Speaker 1: it is, it's a small enough size to where the
[8:03] Speaker 1: EPA doesn't test for it. But accumulatively, those could add
[8:07] Speaker 1: up to a whole bunch of toxicity. You just got
[8:09] Speaker 1: to take a look into it. It's very interesting subject,
[8:12] Speaker 1: by the way. But yeah, Robert F. Kennedy has really
[8:14] Speaker 1: been trying to tackle the whole idea of what we
[8:16] Speaker 1: might call chemtrails, like and they always trying to brush
[8:18] Speaker 1: off kemtrails about you know, some reptilian conspiracy where they're
[8:22] Speaker 1: geoengineering the planet to make it ready to bring demons
[8:24] Speaker 1: in from some interdimensional portal. And I know they're trying
[8:27] Speaker 1: to now announce the aliens are real, so who knows,
[8:29] Speaker 1: but I don't believe that's the case. When I mentioned
[8:32] Speaker 1: KEMP trails, I'm talking about geoengineering, weather modification. If you
[8:36] Speaker 1: ask your AI if KEM trails are real, it will
[8:39] Speaker 1: say no. Then they'll ask them and then ask your
[8:42] Speaker 1: AI if weather modification is real. It'll say yes, weather
[8:45] Speaker 1: modification is real. Then ask it is weather modification chemtrails
[8:49] Speaker 1: and it will say yes. And then you ask it
[8:50] Speaker 1: what the hell is it doing that's real? Answers you'll
[8:54] Speaker 1: get from AI because it literally doesn't. It's programmed to
[8:57] Speaker 1: lie to you.
[9:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like the RFK is so surprising because
[9:05] Speaker 2: he's kind of the least controversial person out of all
[9:09] Speaker 2: of them, which is really insane. We kind of thought
[9:13] Speaker 2: that he was going to be the big mover and
[9:15] Speaker 2: the big shaker of the entire group, but has turned
[9:20] Speaker 2: out to be these other people that have kind of,
[9:23] Speaker 2: you know, resigned, and he may be one of the
[9:27] Speaker 2: only people within the Trump administration that has been able
[9:30] Speaker 2: to really do anything at all.
[9:35] Speaker 1: One thing I know about Robert Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy.
[9:38] Speaker 1: I spoke with him actually at the south By Southwest
[9:42] Speaker 1: a conference put together by Free and Equal Elections Foundation.
[9:46] Speaker 1: They had a stage at south By Southwest where Robert F.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Kennedy spoke, I spoke, I got to meet sjohn Stone
[9:51] Speaker 1: because of Christina Tobin. So shouts out to Christina Tobin
[9:54] Speaker 1: in Free and Equal Elections Foundation. And you know, Robert F.
[9:57] Speaker 1: Kennedy's a politician still, he's still a Paul Titian. I
[10:00] Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, what you're looking
[10:03] Speaker 1: as people who are non negotiable on their principles when
[10:06] Speaker 1: it comes to things like the Epstein files. And you know,
[10:09] Speaker 1: he isn't He's MAHA, he's make America healthy again. He
[10:13] Speaker 1: isn't bust the pedophiles, which Thomas Massey was a big
[10:16] Speaker 1: champion of MAHA making America healthy again. Right, He's really
[10:20] Speaker 1: one of the main, like I think proponents in Congress
[10:23] Speaker 1: always reminding people about getting toxix out of you know,
[10:27] Speaker 1: our food. But all of a sudden you're seeing the
[10:29] Speaker 1: Trump administration kind of backpedal on some of that, Like
[10:33] Speaker 1: let's book Life with Satan things all of a sudden, GMOs.
[10:36] Speaker 1: It seems like Donald Trump has sold the American people
[10:38] Speaker 1: out to the New World Order. Ever since the Epstein
[10:41] Speaker 1: files came out because I can tell you the American
[10:43] Speaker 1: people's thoughts and approval of him has gone down the tubes,
[10:46] Speaker 1: and at some point he's probably saying, screw it. I'm
[10:49] Speaker 1: gonna do what's best for me and my friends and
[10:50] Speaker 1: my family, and we're gonna just screw the American people.
[10:53] Speaker 1: We're going to go start war. And I ran, like
[10:54] Speaker 1: Israel WANs, We're going to go after all these champions
[10:57] Speaker 1: of liberty. Well, let's be honest, people like Rampaul Thomas
[11:00] Speaker 1: Massey are wildly popular amongst anyone that's uh, you know,
[11:04] Speaker 1: a I would say, a you know, a constitutionalist, anyone
[11:10] Speaker 1: that believes in the principles of our frowning fathers, people
[11:13] Speaker 1: that believe that a loyalty should lie to the Constitution
[11:17] Speaker 1: and not to party lines. And that's what Donald Trump's
[11:19] Speaker 1: always said. The problem with Thomas Massey is is that he,
[11:23] Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't go along with party politics. And
[11:25] Speaker 1: that's because a lot of times the things that the
[11:26] Speaker 1: party tries to throwing bills, the pork barrel spending, putting
[11:30] Speaker 1: things in there that aren't beneficial to the people are
[11:33] Speaker 1: just thrown into the bills and everything in the Bill
[11:35] Speaker 1: is fine, but there's one thing he doesn't like in it.
[11:38] Speaker 1: All of a sudden he doesn't like and of course
[11:40] Speaker 1: one of those things that foreign aid. We can't take
[11:42] Speaker 1: care of our own people. If you're homeless, writer and
[11:45] Speaker 1: I ask you for money, You're not gonna give me money.
[11:48] Speaker 1: Why because you don't have money? So why are we
[11:49] Speaker 1: giving money to Israel for war? Why are we going
[11:52] Speaker 1: to wars? We cannot afford our people are starving, We
[11:55] Speaker 1: don't have money. Inflation is at an all time you
[11:58] Speaker 1: know high, you know, and you Donald Trump, all the
[12:00] Speaker 1: economy is great. Yeah, if you live like you're homeless. Like,
[12:03] Speaker 1: what's going on in the world that we're so dumb?
[12:06] Speaker 1: People are tribal and they're diving into this idea of
[12:08] Speaker 1: this left right paradigm and everything that we've all these
[12:11] Speaker 1: things we've worked for years and years to wake the
[12:13] Speaker 1: people up. We're getting regressed. We're getting regressed. The wins
[12:16] Speaker 1: we are making by getting libertarians in there, people who
[12:19] Speaker 1: are liberty minded for the people, they're getting removed for
[12:22] Speaker 1: these neo conservative establishment hacks that are taking a knee
[12:26] Speaker 1: to this new world order of multinational bankers, multinational corporatis
[12:30] Speaker 1: are just destroying the fabric and the identity of America.
[12:33] Speaker 1: You know why because they're going to profit on in
[12:35] Speaker 1: a way out. You know, they've already convinced the President
[12:38] Speaker 1: that the chip is sinking, and at any time they
[12:40] Speaker 1: can call in on the trillions of dollars of debt.
[12:43] Speaker 1: So if you don't jump when they say jump, well
[12:45] Speaker 1: guess what they could call in on that debt and
[12:47] Speaker 1: then you'll have a whole nother problem. And they don't
[12:49] Speaker 1: care if the whole system collapses. They're already making their
[12:52] Speaker 1: deep underground bank you know, bunkers for you know, the
[12:55] Speaker 1: resident evil style world that they're looking for in the future,
[12:58] Speaker 1: just in case. Right, But all these billionaires are just
[13:01] Speaker 1: popping up in bunkers all over the place.
[13:04] Speaker 2: But I'll say, for those billionaires really going to be
[13:06] Speaker 2: how many people are going to take to run those
[13:09] Speaker 2: underground bunkers. Okay, they're not going to be that safe. Bro.
[13:13] Speaker 2: If you have to have one hundred people running in
[13:14] Speaker 2: an underground bunker, dude, well those people are going to
[13:19] Speaker 2: take you out and take your bunker.
[13:22] Speaker 1: Well, it's very interesting you mentioned that, like in the
[13:24] Speaker 1: Bible talks about the elite and the end times, going
[13:27] Speaker 1: into the mountain, but they're trapped in the mountain, and
[13:31] Speaker 1: then they're begging the mountain to fall on them because
[13:33] Speaker 1: it's so bad and evil inside of the mountain. I mean,
[13:35] Speaker 1: that's literally in the Bible at some point, at least
[13:37] Speaker 1: that's my interpretation of it. And it's funny because the Bible.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Jordan Maxwell would always tell me the Bible is a scripture.
[13:44] Speaker 1: Well what is a script? He'd ask me, what is
[13:46] Speaker 1: a script? And you're like, well, okay, so script is
[13:49] Speaker 1: like an outline of what's supposed to happen. It's the program, right,
[13:54] Speaker 1: this is what's supposed to happen. This is what's going
[13:56] Speaker 1: to happen. Every movie has a script, every play has
[14:00] Speaker 1: the script. And they say the Bible is the greatest
[14:02] Speaker 1: story ever told. Well, it's because everything has been written
[14:05] Speaker 1: out and the elitists use it as a roadmap, because
[14:08] Speaker 1: it's all programmed into people to believe that this is
[14:11] Speaker 1: going to happen, whether divine or not divine. You know,
[14:15] Speaker 1: it's very interesting that the elite have a you know,
[14:18] Speaker 1: a heart on for going on and making prophecy come true.
[14:21] Speaker 1: Just look at the temple that they're building at the
[14:24] Speaker 1: ballroom in DC. There isn't it laid out like Solomon's Temple.
[14:28] Speaker 1: They say when Salomon's Temple is rebuilt, that it's going
[14:32] Speaker 1: to bring in the Antichrist. And you had Peter Thiel
[14:35] Speaker 1: out there going around to Catholic churches talking about the Antichrist.
[14:39] Speaker 1: They're doing life extension projects right now that they're doing
[14:42] Speaker 1: human testing in three point five million dollars. But they're
[14:45] Speaker 1: saying that they're having a crazy success that regenerating eyes

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