# Ken Swartz | They Were Always Here, Exotic Tech, Free Energy & The Means to Take ET Home

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 18 Aug 2026, 1 h 10 min.

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[0:02] Speaker 1: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
[0:04] Speaker 1: and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
[0:08] Speaker 1: that people are going to have to talk about how
[0:10] Speaker 1: weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
[0:14] Speaker 1: your host Chris Matthew. Today my guest is Ken Swartz.
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[0:43] Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Today, I want to welcome back to
[0:47] Speaker 1: the show Ken Schwartz. He is founder of C sixty
[0:50] Speaker 1: Purple Power. He has run several research science laboratories over
[0:54] Speaker 1: the course of his career and developed the Moxie fusion reactor. Ken,
[0:59] Speaker 1: Welcome back.
[1:00] Speaker 2: You doing doing pretty good.
[1:02] Speaker 1: Glad to be on, Glad to have you back. Always
[1:04] Speaker 1: a great discussion. I'm looking forward to getting some updates
[1:08] Speaker 1: about some of the technologies you've been involved with, as
[1:11] Speaker 1: well as get your insights about possible existing technologies out
[1:15] Speaker 1: there that many people will never even know about. This
[1:18] Speaker 1: ties into UFO disclosure, but not necessarily extra terrestrials, which
[1:23] Speaker 1: we'll get into it a bit before we do. Remind
[1:27] Speaker 1: the audience a little bit about yourself and let them
[1:29] Speaker 1: know how they can get more.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, I'm Ken Swarth. Most of you know me
[1:34] Speaker 2: as a C sixty power Carbon sixty molecule back there.
[1:38] Speaker 2: It's I guess, one of the world's most powerful antioxidants.
[1:41] Speaker 2: And we could discuss more, but that's not really what
[1:44] Speaker 2: I'm here for, and but maybe at the end we'll
[1:48] Speaker 2: talk some more about the health benefits of it, especially
[1:50] Speaker 2: I did it. I got into C sixty because I
[1:53] Speaker 2: was using as a as a radiation protectant for the
[1:56] Speaker 2: moxy fusion reactor. But that's will probably get into more
[2:00] Speaker 2: of that later. But beyond the C sixty at shop
[2:03] Speaker 2: C sixty dot com, I think now it's time talk
[2:05] Speaker 2: about UFO stuff. So to my underground bunker.
[2:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I mean, now my underground bunker and we need to talk,
[2:14] Speaker 2: and we could talk other about stuff because maybe they're
[2:16] Speaker 2: not listening.
[2:17] Speaker 1: Pretty sure they are, But as far as UFO quote
[2:21] Speaker 1: unquote disclosure, I don't think we've spoken since the files
[2:25] Speaker 1: have been released. Everything that I've seen so far is
[2:28] Speaker 1: a massive nothing burger. It's nothing that people in the
[2:33] Speaker 1: realm of ufology have not seen before. It continues to
[2:38] Speaker 1: trickle out. I'm not sure if any shockers will be
[2:43] Speaker 1: included in the future. As far as everything that's already
[2:47] Speaker 1: been released and what may be propelling the release of
[2:52] Speaker 1: these files, what are your thoughts?
[2:54] Speaker 2: Well, first off, I don't think there's ever going to
[2:56] Speaker 2: be any real disclosure by the UF's government because frankly,
[3:00] Speaker 2: if if they can't control their own airspace or don't
[3:03] Speaker 2: have power over quote say, these visitors, then it kind
[3:07] Speaker 2: of delegitimizes their authority and so they they're just never
[3:11] Speaker 2: gonna happen. They're just always going to be lies. I mean,
[3:14] Speaker 2: look what they they look at the pathetic stuff they've
[3:16] Speaker 2: let loose, right, I mean, I seemed a dozen UFOs
[3:20] Speaker 2: and I have some footage, and it's better than anything
[3:22] Speaker 2: they have released. It's just ridiculous. I mean, it's you
[3:26] Speaker 2: got Lou Alessandro and David Grush and you know they
[3:29] Speaker 2: all dance for that. Chris Mellon, he's that, you know,
[3:33] Speaker 2: CIA billionaire dude who makes them do what they tell them.
[3:37] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just ridiculous. It's just it's
[3:39] Speaker 2: it's it's pathetic. And it doesn't matter how many congressional
[3:43] Speaker 2: whatever hearings they give, it's just it'll be just more Cia,
[3:47] Speaker 2: you know BS two uh, you know, and you know.
[3:51] Speaker 2: And the other thing is, oh, the alien threat? Who
[3:55] Speaker 2: was that to that lady? I remember her name. I
[3:59] Speaker 2: never by. She actually worked at the MX missile project.
[4:01] Speaker 2: My dad was a chief scientist there. I went there,
[4:04] Speaker 2: was there one summer and she was there. She was
[4:06] Speaker 2: actually scary. She scared me when I was in my
[4:08] Speaker 2: college days. Carolyn Rose and Caroline and she talked about
[4:14] Speaker 2: first to be terrorism and then it would be asteroids,
[4:17] Speaker 2: and the final card they would bring out, you know,
[4:20] Speaker 2: would be the alien invasion card. Right, that's their last
[4:25] Speaker 2: that's their last play on, you know, for for power.
[4:28] Speaker 2: And that's what warrener von Braun told him. Because she
[4:30] Speaker 2: he was dying of lung cancer. He didn't have any
[4:32] Speaker 2: reason why. I just decided, you know, what the hell
[4:35] Speaker 2: kill me to do me a favor at that point, right,
[4:38] Speaker 2: he didn't care, so he told her that the truth
[4:41] Speaker 2: and and that's kind of a that's kind of way
[4:45] Speaker 2: it is. And so I'm not holding my breath that
[4:47] Speaker 2: I don't think. I think it'll just at some point
[4:50] Speaker 2: it'll just become too obvious.
[4:52] Speaker 1: Well, there's many things most likely propelling this pseudo disclosure
[4:58] Speaker 1: that the government is provided. I'm sure part of it
[5:02] Speaker 1: is in the future having the ability to release more
[5:05] Speaker 1: exotic technology and weaponry and drones. But why do you
[5:10] Speaker 1: think the narrative of extraterrestrial beings and non human biologics
[5:16] Speaker 1: and reverse engineered craft is being put out there at all?
[5:21] Speaker 1: Why is that coming out during this time?
[5:24] Speaker 2: I think the extraterrestrials have their own damn agendas and
[5:28] Speaker 2: they intend to eventually have their own disclosures. Some maybe don't,
[5:33] Speaker 2: but some do. And I think that's just at some
[5:35] Speaker 2: point they're trying to like create the narrative. You've got
[5:37] Speaker 2: to have the narrative, right, control the narrative. And I
[5:40] Speaker 2: mean these UFO things. I remember I had talked to
[5:42] Speaker 2: Fred days all little guys passed away long ago. Like
[5:46] Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty five, they had a three giant saucer
[5:50] Speaker 2: craft hovered over Phoenix, Arizona, and then they went around
[5:55] Speaker 2: the city a couple times, then came back to the
[5:56] Speaker 2: place they were and like, you know, a quarter of
[5:58] Speaker 2: the city saw them, and yet did it ever go.
[6:01] Speaker 2: I mean, these events have happened all over the place
[6:04] Speaker 2: in various cities, millions of people have seen them, and
[6:08] Speaker 2: yet it's like never been able to break into like
[6:11] Speaker 2: the larger human consciousness. So there's almost like a roadblock
[6:15] Speaker 2: or something stuck in people's minds. For instance. You know,
[6:19] Speaker 2: if you look at back, virtually every ancient culture had
[6:22] Speaker 2: like the star people in it. They were just part
[6:25] Speaker 2: of reality, right, just like you know, the animals of airs,
[6:29] Speaker 2: whatever it was. Right. Yet today if you go to people,
[6:32] Speaker 2: talk to people and you say UFO or aliens or something,
[6:35] Speaker 2: it's you know, a good part of the normies or
[6:37] Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, you're crazy, you're a nut whatever.
[6:40] Speaker 2: Because it's ancient ancestors didn't have a problem with it,
[6:44] Speaker 2: why do we have? And you know, the only explanation
[6:46] Speaker 2: is really the planet's already under alien occupation, because after all,
[6:50] Speaker 2: if you were an aliens and you were occupying the
[6:52] Speaker 2: planet Earth, or maybe multiple different types of aliens multiplying
[6:56] Speaker 2: the planet Earth. One way to sure that you're not
[7:00] Speaker 2: going to be overthrown is to just convince the population
[7:03] Speaker 2: that aliens don't exist. Right, If aliens don't exist, then
[7:07] Speaker 2: how could you possibly ever be overthrown? So the fact
[7:09] Speaker 2: that our ancestors do they existed and we don't now
[7:12] Speaker 2: we don't now in the quote modern age, Well, it's
[7:15] Speaker 2: probably just because we're already under occupation.
[7:18] Speaker 1: So most likely everything that we've been seeing with disclosure
[7:23] Speaker 1: has been orchestrated by something else other than the government,
[7:29] Speaker 1: something above the government, possibly these non human beings.
[7:32] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's several groups. I mean really, here's a
[7:36] Speaker 2: book you probably should read. Oh that magic blue screen greens.
[7:43] Speaker 2: Dang that green screen. Let me go check see if
[7:45] Speaker 2: I could make that any better? Those There we go.
[7:52] Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to get in there. Yeah, there we go.
[7:55] Speaker 2: Here it is oh perfect, that's uh, it's called this
[7:59] Speaker 2: is a book. It's called fifty Years of m Assisia.
[8:04] Speaker 2: Pardon my Italian, I guess going off to school. But
[8:08] Speaker 2: it's basically the mass contact with by Stepho Briccia, it's
[8:13] Speaker 2: threatened fifty years after and he realized, you know, these
[8:15] Speaker 2: alien looked like human beings, maybe the humanoid beings. They
[8:19] Speaker 2: look pretty much like us. But there's a whole story
[8:22] Speaker 2: on it. And they came down and they got them
[8:23] Speaker 2: to do all this stuff, you know, convinced him the
[8:27] Speaker 2: world would end if they didn't do it. Blah blah blah.
[8:29] Speaker 2: But at the end fifty years looking back, they realized
[8:31] Speaker 2: they were just being manipulated, and so they were basically
[8:34] Speaker 2: the aliens, these extra trust rials, I guess you'd call them.
[8:38] Speaker 2: They're basically manipulating, practicing, manipulating human beings, which on the
[8:44] Speaker 2: small scale, which then they could expand on the large scale.
[8:47] Speaker 2: And if you read the book, he sometimes some of
[8:49] Speaker 2: these quote extraterrestrials, Like he ran into one talking to
[8:53] Speaker 2: a major Italian politician, right, and the guy was surprised
[8:58] Speaker 2: that he knew that Stefano knew this politician, right, But
[9:03] Speaker 2: you know the thing, the Ais do these extraras, so
[9:05] Speaker 2: so oh, you've got to find your own path, You've
[9:06] Speaker 2: got to do this, right, blah blah blah. Yeah, when yeah,
[9:12] Speaker 2: when he runs into him, here is he here is
[9:14] Speaker 2: he talking to a major politician. You know. One of
[9:17] Speaker 2: the things that things is like the pretty much like
[9:20] Speaker 2: the Space Brothers, or were the Space Brothers in nineteen
[9:22] Speaker 2: fifty and they said, oh, we're from Mars and from Venus.
[9:26] Speaker 2: You know, we didn't know anything about Mars and Venus
[9:28] Speaker 2: right back then, or Jupiter right and so now we know,
[9:31] Speaker 2: you know, Mars is a frozen rock and Venus is
[9:33] Speaker 2: basically a massive oven. But you know one thing is
[9:36] Speaker 2: whenever these aliens talk to humans, they basically lie. In fact,
[9:41] Speaker 2: they lie just like the CIA lies. They're like those
[9:43] Speaker 2: two that those two of us get along because they're
[9:45] Speaker 2: in the two p's of the same pod, right, And
[9:48] Speaker 2: so it's anything believing, you know, it's pretty pretty sketchy
[9:52] Speaker 2: to believe anything.
[9:53] Speaker 1: And that's why it's very difficult for me to get
[9:55] Speaker 1: behind the narrative that they are our space brothers in
[9:59] Speaker 1: they're here for our benefit, because there's so much deception
[10:03] Speaker 1: and lies that are associated with people's encounters and the
[10:07] Speaker 1: information they've been given. And I can see why Evangelicals
[10:12] Speaker 1: and Christians are leaning towards these are demons because they
[10:16] Speaker 1: seem to be very deceptive beings. Do you think that
[10:20] Speaker 1: the narrative that they created us as an experiment is
[10:25] Speaker 1: somewhat true.
[10:27] Speaker 2: I don't really think so. I mean, if you look
[10:28] Speaker 2: at our genetics, there's sure there's probably been some manipulation,
[10:31] Speaker 2: because one thing we can't explain is that all primates
[10:34] Speaker 2: on planet Earth except humans have forty eight chromosomes, whereas
[10:39] Speaker 2: humans have forty six. We have the same amount of
[10:41] Speaker 2: genetic material. It's just that two of those four chromosomes
[10:44] Speaker 2: got fused into two. That's why we have forty six,
[10:49] Speaker 2: and so and so. That means that you know that
[10:53] Speaker 2: basically maybe somebody's experiment wouldn't backbreed with the locals or something.
[10:58] Speaker 2: We really don't have explanation why we have forty s
[11:00] Speaker 2: and everybody else, all the other primates on planet Earth
[11:03] Speaker 2: forty eight.
[11:04] Speaker 1: So do you think that at the highest levels there
[11:08] Speaker 1: is still collaboration with the planet's most powerful people and
[11:15] Speaker 1: some of these beings, Oh.
[11:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the guys that have been doing that.
[11:19] Speaker 2: Evidently they got kind of pushed out of power by
[11:22] Speaker 2: the Mantoy Gray Alliance or whatever, and there's just a
[11:25] Speaker 2: bunch of different it's it's it really reminds me from
[11:28] Speaker 2: my examinations It's like the old core Cold War days,
[11:31] Speaker 2: right where some where Earth is some pathetic, sad, pathetic
[11:35] Speaker 2: third world country, let's say, third world island nation, and
[11:39] Speaker 2: you know, the larger powers want to influence it. You know,
[11:41] Speaker 2: we used to have the the Soviets in the Americans
[11:47] Speaker 2: like trying to put these third world countries under their orbit.
[11:51] Speaker 2: But then they're also like the British, the French, the
[11:53] Speaker 2: communist Chinese and several others that that we're in there
[12:00] Speaker 2: doing their own manipulation, let alone the corporations. So I
[12:05] Speaker 2: think that's that's kind of what's going on on Earth.
[12:11] Speaker 1: I had an interesting guess yesterday. I'm still debating whether
[12:15] Speaker 1: I'm actually going to release the episode or not, just
[12:19] Speaker 1: because the information was so fantastic, and he was providing
[12:26] Speaker 1: artifacts and evidence. He is in Mexico and he claims
[12:31] Speaker 1: that he's working with a team that has been excavating
[12:35] Speaker 1: these alien artifacts, and he was showing them to me,
[12:39] Speaker 1: and they were undeniably alien in the way that they looked.
[12:45] Speaker 1: Now are they genuine? That's the problem I may have.
[12:48] Speaker 1: They looked too good. They were UFOs, They had alien
[12:53] Speaker 1: inscriptions all of them. They had statues of aliens and
[12:57] Speaker 1: I've seen these before and many of them turn out
[13:00] Speaker 1: to be fake, but I know there are real artifacts
[13:04] Speaker 1: being found in that area in Mexico, And I'm wondering
[13:07] Speaker 1: if you heard anything about artifacts that have been recently
[13:11] Speaker 1: discovered not recently.
[13:13] Speaker 2: I know there was a whole as there was a
[13:15] Speaker 2: scam that happened, like it was like twenty three years
[13:18] Speaker 2: ago where they found all these artifacts and some of
[13:20] Speaker 2: them were like dinosaurs and other things, and it was
[13:23] Speaker 2: just it ended up course being fraud. Yeah, so it
[13:27] Speaker 2: could be fraud. I'm really skeptical about some of that stuff,
[13:30] Speaker 2: Like a lot of that's like the Peru the alien mummies.
[13:34] Speaker 2: You know, they took them in and do it. Mr
[13:36] Speaker 2: Anda's on them and they discovered, Oh, it's just a
[13:39] Speaker 2: bunch of things put together. Right. You got to be
[13:41] Speaker 2: really careful of Latin America. They make all kinds of
[13:44] Speaker 2: forgeries and sell them to the gullible tourists, right.
[13:48] Speaker 1: And I have to wonder if everything that's happened since
[13:51] Speaker 1: at least twenty twenty, with the awareness level of people
[13:56] Speaker 1: and revelations of corruption, people are starting to become aware
[14:02] Speaker 1: of things. And what better way to muddy that up
[14:06] Speaker 1: than releasing all kinds of misinformation along with bits of truth.
[14:12] Speaker 1: Right now, we're in a very confusing time when it
[14:15] Speaker 1: comes to information, and I'm sure there are tons of
[14:19] Speaker 1: people who have been inserted into this community to cause
[14:24] Speaker 1: that madness, but there's also opportunists and people just looking
[14:28] Speaker 1: for notoriety. So it's a huge mess. It's almost impossible
[14:31] Speaker 1: to navigate what's real and what's not, especially with AI
[14:35] Speaker 1: and the capabilities of fakery that that has. It's a
[14:40] Speaker 1: very opportunistic time for them to sneak these agendas under
[14:45] Speaker 1: the carpet, under the guise of many other things.
[14:48] Speaker 2: Well you all remember this, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, look,
[14:53] Speaker 2: I kill one of my sisters and a couple cousins.
[14:57] Speaker 2: You know, you know, people are starting to some people
[15:00] Speaker 2: are waking up, right, It's like the medical profession is
[15:03] Speaker 2: massively devastated. Doctors are dying. Doctors and nurses are dying
[15:08] Speaker 2: left and right because they believe the science. They trust
[15:12] Speaker 2: to the science. They took the death jobs, and now
[15:15] Speaker 2: they're dying like flies in the winter frosts. I mean,
[15:19] Speaker 2: we're going to have a massive doctor shortage, a massive
[15:22] Speaker 2: nurse shortage because basically, you know, the first door is
[15:26] Speaker 2: of the myocarditis. Well now it's the turbo cancers. And
[15:29] Speaker 2: of course none of it's I mean, there's something over
[15:31] Speaker 2: at least five million Americans, some people say up to
[15:33] Speaker 2: ten have died from the jobs and another thirty million disabled,
[15:38] Speaker 2: you know, and people are starting to wake up. Some
[15:40] Speaker 2: of them are waking up, a lot of them are,
[15:42] Speaker 2: you know, because they took the jab are trying to
[15:45] Speaker 2: hide you know, you know, because they gave it to
[15:48] Speaker 2: their kids too, and they just don't want to acknowledge
[15:51] Speaker 2: the fact that they did that. You know, that they
[15:53] Speaker 2: went along with the thing, that they took something what
[15:56] Speaker 2: it is, and so we have you know, there's ones
[15:58] Speaker 2: that are acknowledging it and gaining knowledge, and then there's
[16:01] Speaker 2: these ones that are even blockage because otherwise, if they
[16:05] Speaker 2: had to acknowledge the fact is, then they'd have to act,
[16:08] Speaker 2: then they'd have to do something. First, it's their own
[16:10] Speaker 2: guilt on what they did. And then the fact that
[16:13] Speaker 2: you have these psychotic mass murderers, you know, basically, whether
[16:16] Speaker 2: people like it or not, it's true. Cannibalistic, pedophilic Satanists
[16:20] Speaker 2: are running your country near you, the Epstein class, and hey,
[16:25] Speaker 2: where are those files. Guys, where's those files? Huh? Where's
[16:30] Speaker 2: that problem? Come on, give me a break. We know
[16:32] Speaker 2: exactly what's going on. I mean, if you want to
[16:34] Speaker 2: open your eyes and this hasn't got nothing to do
[16:36] Speaker 2: with intelligence the average person, average intelligence, can it just
[16:40] Speaker 2: it doesn't, You don't. It's obvious, it's clear. It's a
[16:45] Speaker 2: moral problem if you can't recognize the truth on what's
[16:48] Speaker 2: going on. Now, it's a moral problem inside of you.
[16:52] Speaker 2: This is not you can't say it's some esoteric knowledge
[16:55] Speaker 2: or something only the elite can know. No, no, no,
[16:57] Speaker 2: that's not what it is. It's damned obvious. It's in
[16:59] Speaker 2: everybody repeatedly. It's time for people to acknowledge what's going on.
[17:05] Speaker 2: I mean, you can just ignore it or you know,
[17:07] Speaker 2: if you keep ignoring it. Learn a lot of people
[17:09] Speaker 2: that ignored it, and they're all die and left and right.
[17:11] Speaker 2: You know, she just believed whatever the doctors would tell her, right, Yeah,
[17:18] Speaker 2: she trusted the science. She believed the science. And now
[17:20] Speaker 2: well she's no longer around. And I got other relatives
[17:24] Speaker 2: on the way out too, So it's it's pretty brutal.
[17:27] Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that are becoming aware
[17:29] Speaker 1: of it. There's also a lot of silence behind it
[17:32] Speaker 1: because I'm sure people don't want to admit that they've
[17:36] Speaker 1: been duped in that way. But I wanted to get
[17:39] Speaker 1: into the technology that we're being subjected to. Right now.
[17:45] Speaker 1: Things are moving extremely fast. It's difficult to keep up
[17:49] Speaker 1: with everything. All the technology that we are having access to,
[17:55] Speaker 1: most of it does not have any real benefit for humanity.
[17:59] Speaker 1: It's only benefiting the ruling class. It's benefiting data centers
[18:03] Speaker 1: and AI AI learning systems, So that's all growing and
[18:08] Speaker 1: getting better for the sake of technology and the growth
[18:12] Speaker 1: of technology. But there's nothing that is out there for
[18:16] Speaker 1: the benefit of humanity. And I don't see this changing
[18:20] Speaker 1: anytime soon. But you hear the rumbles that the white
[18:25] Speaker 1: hats are out there and we have this amazing technology
[18:30] Speaker 1: that could essentially change everything in our reality for the better,
[18:34] Speaker 1: but it's being held back by the ruling class. But
[18:38] Speaker 1: many believe that's going to change in the near future.
[18:42] Speaker 1: Do you think that we would ever see any of
[18:44] Speaker 1: that beneficial technology.
[18:46] Speaker 2: Well, first off, if anyone thinks some white hats out
[18:48] Speaker 2: there is going to save them, they're just kidding themselves.
[18:51] Speaker 2: The only way you're gonna save is save yourself, organize
[18:54] Speaker 2: with your friends and family. Oh yeah, there's technology out
[18:57] Speaker 2: there like metal oxygen fusion, are oxygen driven fusion. I'm
[19:01] Speaker 2: behind that. If we't talk about conspiracy, well here I
[19:04] Speaker 2: am right mister conspiracy himself. So that's actually happening in China, Japan, Taiwan,
[19:10] Speaker 2: to a certain extent, Korea, East Asia because they're pretty desperate.
[19:14] Speaker 2: You know, our little orange fungus has basically cut them
[19:18] Speaker 2: off from the oil supplies and they're pretty desperate. So
[19:22] Speaker 2: now they're willing to take and look at metal oxygen
[19:24] Speaker 2: fusion because it's easy to apply. It's the same thing
[19:27] Speaker 2: Stanley Meyer was doing. And you know, I didn't come
[19:30] Speaker 2: up with metal oxygen fusion. It was probably its originators,
[19:32] Speaker 2: or Osawa and Kushi, back in the early late nineteen fifties,
[19:36] Speaker 2: before I was even born, before probably most all of
[19:39] Speaker 2: you were born. So here's the technology. I mean. If
[19:42] Speaker 2: Osawa Kushi's discoveries had not been suppressed by occupation authorities,
[19:48] Speaker 2: you know, Japan would have had working fusion reactors in
[19:50] Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, and imagine how history would have been changed.
[19:54] Speaker 2: There certainly been no carbon crisis, no Fukushima no Chernobyl,
[19:58] Speaker 2: no any of that stuff. But it got suppressed. I mean,
[20:00] Speaker 2: Stephen Green is right on that amount, you know, on
[20:02] Speaker 2: that thing. You know, we're risking a century of technology.
[20:06] Speaker 2: Our planet is like a century behind technological development. And there's
[20:10] Speaker 2: really been nothing in physics, well untill I him along
[20:13] Speaker 2: for the last century, right, and there's edo call. He
[20:17] Speaker 2: has the structured atom model. If anyone's listening to the
[20:21] Speaker 2: next jump in physics, there's one right there. And so
[20:25] Speaker 2: there is actually a new just like in the last
[20:27] Speaker 2: nineteenth century there was a burst of like stuff. Well,
[20:30] Speaker 2: it's happening right now again, but every one of us
[20:33] Speaker 2: that's doing it is on the outside of the system.
[20:37] Speaker 1: For those that haven't heard your previous episodes where you
[20:40] Speaker 1: discussed moxie fusion, could you remind us some of the
[20:44] Speaker 1: applications that are possible with this?
[20:47] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, basically, well, first application, it's a there's a
[20:51] Speaker 2: group Professor Hong and in a group in Taiwan has
[20:56] Speaker 2: basically they've been basically there's fusion you always here, but
[21:00] Speaker 2: oxygen hydrotropes to turium with deturium, more with tritium, right,
[21:04] Speaker 2: and they're little fake bogus hot fusion reactors. There's nothing
[21:08] Speaker 2: but a scam itter. And all the hot fusion reactors
[21:10] Speaker 2: you ever heard of, nothing but a scam. None of
[21:13] Speaker 2: them have ever worked. They spent one hundred and fifty
[21:15] Speaker 2: billion dollars eight decades, zero success. Okay, moxifusion I reactor
[21:20] Speaker 2: whenever you need the first time we did it because
[21:22] Speaker 2: we just did the Osau and Kushi principles, but that
[21:24] Speaker 2: got suppressed because for some reason somebody doesn't want humans
[21:27] Speaker 2: to get things. And basically it's it's a million, billion,
[21:30] Speaker 2: million times easier maybe a billion times easier to fuse
[21:33] Speaker 2: oxygen with another at a metal. In the case of
[21:36] Speaker 2: Osaw and Kushi, their classic one in a noble gas atmosphere.
[21:40] Speaker 2: They fuse sodium with oxygen and noble gas atmosphere. Their
[21:44] Speaker 2: power supply was a sodium street lamp power supply, right
[21:49] Speaker 2: remember they all sold sodium street laps before they replaced
[21:51] Speaker 2: them with that. Yeah, So you could build your own
[21:52] Speaker 2: awn fusion reactor really easy. You don't need me. Just
[21:57] Speaker 2: go online. You go look up moxyfusion research Gate you
[22:01] Speaker 2: can read all about it. There's also the Scotia Group
[22:04] Speaker 2: University of Valencia. They reproduced our stuff, and now there's
[22:08] Speaker 2: professor Hong. What they were doing is they can take
[22:10] Speaker 2: They were taking hydrogen, fusing it with an oxygen, making
[22:13] Speaker 2: oxygen seventeen. Then that oxygen seventeen would fuse to make
[22:17] Speaker 2: auction eighteen, and then finally would fuse to make fluorine nineteen.
[22:22] Speaker 2: My method I was using, I was using oxygen with
[22:24] Speaker 2: the turium to fuse it into auxygen. It confuses into
[22:28] Speaker 2: fluorine eighteen. Then it electron captures and turns into auction eighteen.
[22:33] Speaker 2: And if auction eighteen fusees a turn that makes neon,
[22:35] Speaker 2: you don't make fluorine. Fluorine is like of a biogeochemistry.
[22:39] Speaker 2: Fluorine is the most nastiest element. You don't want to
[22:41] Speaker 2: deal with it, so I just try to avoid for you.
[22:44] Speaker 2: And but also sometimes, like doctor Hong showed that when
[22:46] Speaker 2: they're running it, they're also getting a bunch of sulfur
[22:49] Speaker 2: thirty two. Oxygen sixteen fuses with oxygen sixteen to make
[22:52] Speaker 2: sulfur thirty two. Well, it's interesting that I was surprised
[22:55] Speaker 2: with Itto calls structure out of model explains it. When
[22:59] Speaker 2: they were fusing oxygen seventeen was fusing with ouxygen seventeen.
[23:02] Speaker 2: It was making a carbon twelve and a neon twenty two,
[23:07] Speaker 2: which was unexpected. So anyway, there's more on that, but
[23:10] Speaker 2: I mean, no, you can't deny metal auxygen fusions here.
[23:14] Speaker 2: And of course these st Asians are jumping on it,
[23:16] Speaker 2: Japan on it. Taiwan's really ahead, but China's ahead of
[23:20] Speaker 2: everybody because their spies are everywhere, so they know everything
[23:24] Speaker 2: we're doing. And I don't care if China gets there first.
[23:29] Speaker 2: At least somebody got there right, because you know, that
[23:32] Speaker 2: was a big breakdown between the Zionist Jewish power structures
[23:37] Speaker 2: that run the West and the Chinese. You know, they
[23:41] Speaker 2: Truman Mao was put in by the well anyway, by
[23:44] Speaker 2: we know the little hats, right, okay, because a little
[23:47] Speaker 2: hat was the head of propaganda and a little hat
[23:49] Speaker 2: was the head of the finance. Well, Mao was in there, right.
[23:54] Speaker 2: But in twenty seventeen, Jiji Ping stood up and told
[23:59] Speaker 2: his masters who came to give them the marching orders
[24:02] Speaker 2: that year they said. He said, we are a five
[24:05] Speaker 2: thousand year old country. We don't take orders we give them,
[24:08] Speaker 2: and threw them out of the country. And that's when
[24:11] Speaker 2: China was the greatest things that slice bread, the media,
[24:13] Speaker 2: the great enemy. Yeah, there's a big fight between you know,
[24:16] Speaker 2: the Chinese imperium and uh, and it's Allies versus the West,
[24:21] Speaker 2: which is run by the you know, the Zio bankers,
[24:24] Speaker 2: the hot Chiles and the rest of those things, the Lazars,
[24:27] Speaker 2: the you know, there's Warburgs and all the rest of them.
[24:29] Speaker 2: So that's the big and their slaves, which is US.
[24:32] Speaker 2: So that's the big that's the big fight right now.
[24:35] Speaker 2: And the Chinese are going for independence of the Chinese civilization.
[24:39] Speaker 2: They put up with it for a long time, but
[24:41] Speaker 2: they build up their technology and their strength until finally
[24:44] Speaker 2: they had enough and they declared their independence. And that's
[24:48] Speaker 2: the big fight. Whether people liked it or not, that's
[24:50] Speaker 2: what's going on. And if you don't, you know, you
[24:52] Speaker 2: can deny it. But it's and I mean Iran is
[24:54] Speaker 2: all part of that, which we the United States has
[24:57] Speaker 2: lost the Iran War and yeah, and so yeah, so
[25:01] Speaker 2: that's the big thing. And yeah, we have technologies like
[25:04] Speaker 2: you'll hear the ones like we have like us is
[25:07] Speaker 2: back engineered saucer flying craft. Ours are actually octagonal and
[25:11] Speaker 2: we could fly to Mars in like two or three
[25:14] Speaker 2: days if it's on this side of the sun. Right,
[25:16] Speaker 2: we even have a base on there. I don't know
[25:18] Speaker 2: if it's fully functioned, but it's just a pain in
[25:20] Speaker 2: the aster. Try to keep a base on Mars. I'm sure.
[25:23] Speaker 2: I think they took over so they allegedly they took
[25:25] Speaker 2: over an old alien base that had been abandoned and
[25:28] Speaker 2: and and so they've been you know, working it there.
[25:32] Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's like the problem is is
[25:35] Speaker 2: that all these stuff, you know that twenty billion trillion
[25:38] Speaker 2: dollars that Katherine Austin fit saw go out the door.
[25:41] Speaker 2: You're familiar, well, you know everything that the US makes
[25:45] Speaker 2: is you know, they're made by Lockey Martin Bowing. They're
[25:46] Speaker 2: a bunch of hangar queens. Right, Probably we do, Yeah,
[25:50] Speaker 2: we do have all these these advanced craft, but they're
[25:52] Speaker 2: super expensive. They're probably downtime as ninety percent while they're
[25:56] Speaker 2: getting repaired, and you know, I'm sure we've lost a
[25:59] Speaker 2: lot of them. And deep space, you know, we have
[26:01] Speaker 2: frozen cruise out there floating around that, you know, And
[26:06] Speaker 2: so it's just a a real problem. And I mean
[26:09] Speaker 2: there's obviously people don't know. If you don't know that
[26:12] Speaker 2: there are alien beings, a variety of them living on
[26:14] Speaker 2: the Moon. You need to catch up with that. Unfortunately,
[26:17] Speaker 2: Bruce schwartz sees All has passed away.
[26:21] Speaker 1: And oh he did. I wasn't aware of that.
[26:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a conspiracy. He really had a bad
[26:28] Speaker 2: heart problem. He basically that's it looks like he just
[26:31] Speaker 2: you know, he probably didn't exercise righte and ate badly
[26:34] Speaker 2: and so he had some cardiobuscular problems. So I miss Bruce.
[26:38] Speaker 2: I miss Bruce sees All. Wherever you are. Bruce, he
[26:41] Speaker 2: did a he had a great channel. It was I
[26:43] Speaker 2: miss him. But you know, and there's just all kinds
[26:45] Speaker 2: of things flying in and out of the Moon going around.
[26:47] Speaker 1: Is it just the dark side of the moon or
[26:49] Speaker 1: it's everywhere.
[26:50] Speaker 2: It's everywherewhere, somewhere near Arcturist because they actually discovered on
[26:55] Speaker 2: the moon. They discovered and the remember Dick Algeyer in
[26:58] Speaker 2: his group Future for Costume group, there's one granted pluton
[27:02] Speaker 2: they discovered on the Moon. I heard a.
[27:05] Speaker 1: Story of a remote viewer that was involved with that
[27:07] Speaker 1: group that was attempting to remote view bases on the
[27:11] Speaker 1: Moon and he was caught by whatever beings were there
[27:17] Speaker 1: and they trapped, they captured his consciousness and now he's
[27:20] Speaker 1: in a coma in the cyber Governing Hospital.
[27:23] Speaker 2: Because yeah, it goes that's I don't know if that's
[27:24] Speaker 2: true or not. There was Swan, people know Ingo Swan.
[27:28] Speaker 2: He was. He was, you know, the basically intelligence agency
[27:31] Speaker 2: of some sort. We can't be sure. Probably not the CIA.
[27:36] Speaker 2: They're not the best because my dad was in the
[27:38] Speaker 2: DA uh you know, retired of colonel, but we got
[27:41] Speaker 2: a job in Saudi Arabia and then he was a
[27:43] Speaker 2: two ston. He was there when the raaning thing went by.
[27:44] Speaker 2: He'd tell his stories. But you know, the CIA, I'm sorry,
[27:47] Speaker 2: isn't really the best because he went to the Aman Jordan.
[27:50] Speaker 2: He was day at King David Hotel. He hired like
[27:52] Speaker 2: a really old taxi driver, paid him twenty bucks to
[27:55] Speaker 2: show him all the CIA safehouses and Jordan's the guy
[27:59] Speaker 2: I wrote out, wrote them all down, send it back
[28:01] Speaker 2: to the DE I A mean, give me a break.
[28:04] Speaker 2: You know, they're they're they're not really uh, they're not
[28:07] Speaker 2: really a legitimate intelligence organization. They're good at taking out
[28:10] Speaker 2: foreign leaders and overthrowing governments and you know, smuggling drugs
[28:14] Speaker 2: cocaine importation agency. You can't remember the AARAN contract as
[28:18] Speaker 2: far as you know, an intelligence agency. They suck. Uh
[28:21] Speaker 2: but uh but that's just the you know, Yeah, I
[28:25] Speaker 2: mean are I think there's actually some revolt brewing in
[28:28] Speaker 2: our government, especially in the military, because God, I wouldn't
[28:32] Speaker 2: want to I would I wouldn't want to be on
[28:35] Speaker 2: the US and Lincoln. My god, what those those those
[28:39] Speaker 2: seamen are going through? Hell? Oh yeah. See, First off,
[28:46] Speaker 2: the we've never the US Lincoln aircraft carrier has been
[28:49] Speaker 2: out at sea longer than any US craft, our US
[28:54] Speaker 2: carrier carrier has ever any US naval craft has ever
[28:56] Speaker 2: been And they didn't design the tender system right, supposed
[29:00] Speaker 2: to have resupply to keep everything going, well, they never did.
[29:04] Speaker 2: They never thought about or planned for such a thing.
[29:07] Speaker 2: So they don't have the tenderships to come in and
[29:10] Speaker 2: like resupply the thing. They just don't have enough of them.
[29:13] Speaker 2: So basically they're on like there was some marine amphibious
[29:17] Speaker 2: assault ship that got back and like all these parents
[29:19] Speaker 2: are complaining about what happened. Their kids're some of these
[29:22] Speaker 2: these are fit soldiers, right, sailors, seamen, marines. The guy
[29:27] Speaker 2: lost thirty pounds, damn thirty pounds because the rations on
[29:32] Speaker 2: the Lincoln had gone down to starvation levels like Ashwisch,
[29:35] Speaker 2: they probably fed the people Inwit's better than they're feeding
[29:38] Speaker 2: our soldiers and sailors on them on the high seas.
[29:41] Speaker 2: And it's just, you know, they're just having all kinds
[29:43] Speaker 2: of problems because I mean, we got to we gotta
[29:46] Speaker 2: retard Hike Seth running the Pentagon. Yeah, I mean, this dude,
[29:50] Speaker 2: he doesn't he doesn't deserve you know, he's a Fox
[29:53] Speaker 2: News analyst. You know that's he's not meant to be
[29:57] Speaker 2: a you know, a commander and chat or a I
[30:00] Speaker 2: guess what do you cond headed the Pentagon defended the
[30:02] Speaker 2: Defense Department, Department of War, sorry, Department of War, which
[30:06] Speaker 2: they lost. Right, So if you were in, if you're
[30:08] Speaker 2: the head of a Department of War and you lose
[30:09] Speaker 2: a war, I think it's time to resign. But but
[30:11] Speaker 2: that see, so I'm just you know, I'm just tired.
[30:13] Speaker 2: I've got see at first, I'm a geezer at turch
[30:15] Speaker 2: Urn sixty five this year. So I don't really care, right, Okay,
[30:18] Speaker 2: abuse me, say nasty things about me, call me whatever.
[30:22] Speaker 2: I just really don't care. When you get to a
[30:25] Speaker 2: certain age, you gotta get get over can Yeah, just
[30:29] Speaker 2: like what you say, let me tell you don't always
[30:32] Speaker 2: see it. You know, see sixty helps, but still you're
[30:34] Speaker 2: when you're to a certain age. It is the way
[30:37] Speaker 2: it is, right. Yeah, we have all this technology. We
[30:41] Speaker 2: just do. We just have all this technology. We got
[30:43] Speaker 2: the underground rail system. In fact, for I'm sitting right here,
[30:46] Speaker 2: it's about a half mile from me and down a
[30:48] Speaker 2: thousand feet. Uh. You know, they got like this rail system,
[30:51] Speaker 2: two rails seventy feet wide, two raels to go side
[30:54] Speaker 2: by side. Because as you're building it, you got two trains.
[30:57] Speaker 2: Take it out the h the junk, and does.
[31:00] Speaker 1: Just go all over the United States everywhere.
[31:03] Speaker 2: It's like a web. So if you take out one
[31:04] Speaker 2: thing here or there, it's not going to make a difference,
[31:06] Speaker 2: right because it's a web, and it's designed for all
[31:09] Speaker 2: US military craft can or if anything can go in there,
[31:12] Speaker 2: because you know, usually they have two trains going back
[31:14] Speaker 2: and forth, like two freight trains. It's all electric of course,
[31:17] Speaker 2: going back and forth. But what they can do is
[31:19] Speaker 2: they can also weld. They weld the two things together
[31:22] Speaker 2: so you can put tanks and airplanes to take off
[31:25] Speaker 2: the wings. And so all us craft are designed so
[31:27] Speaker 2: I could take I could off, you know, somewhere off
[31:30] Speaker 2: let's say in New York, somewhere by another military base.
[31:33] Speaker 2: I could take tanks or planes, take off the wings,
[31:36] Speaker 2: put them on that thing, and ship them all the
[31:37] Speaker 2: way across the country to the others, to Vanburg or wherever,
[31:40] Speaker 2: and then take them off and reassemble them so we
[31:42] Speaker 2: can move military all across the country.
[31:45] Speaker 1: How fast does that thing go anything?
[31:47] Speaker 2: Oh, it goes pretty fast, depending on what it is.
[31:50] Speaker 2: You know. I've heard some that they built also built
[31:53] Speaker 2: like a mag lev system, but that's just for personnel
[31:56] Speaker 2: rich people, fantasy stuff. Right when you're really stuff, you
[31:59] Speaker 2: got to use a freight trade. I mean, it's I'm
[32:01] Speaker 2: sure it's going like sixty seventy miles an hour. And
[32:04] Speaker 2: uh and so, because you can hear drilling every now
[32:07] Speaker 2: and then the one here goes to the military base
[32:10] Speaker 2: under Green Mountain, and then there's a big one here.
[32:13] Speaker 2: Denver has like forty billion dollars worth of underground facilities.
[32:18] Speaker 1: Do you think the billionaires and elitists truly have underground
[32:22] Speaker 1: cities bunkers that they believe that they will be able
[32:27] Speaker 1: to live in if everything hits the fan. Do they
[32:29] Speaker 1: really have these?
[32:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, but remember you've got to have electricians, plumbers, HBAC guys,
[32:36] Speaker 2: all computer dudes, all kinds of things to maintain that.
[32:39] Speaker 2: You've got to have cooks, right, basically, well, and most
[32:42] Speaker 2: of those guys are in the military or military like organizations. Basically,
[32:46] Speaker 2: all those rich parasites are gonna run underground, they're all
[32:48] Speaker 2: They're all gonna put them in a run room. They're
[32:50] Speaker 2: gonna seal the excess. They're gonna gass.
[32:51] Speaker 1: Themhead of them.
[32:53] Speaker 2: And then then they'll they're families down under the ground
[32:56] Speaker 2: and take care of them because great nobody likes those
[33:00] Speaker 2: rich parasite scumbags or the politicians. No, they'll just get
[33:04] Speaker 2: rid of them. You know what are they They're useless.
[33:06] Speaker 2: They're useless parasites. And obviously if there was a bad war,
[33:10] Speaker 2: they they failed in their mission. So why would we
[33:12] Speaker 2: keep why would you underground people? Keep them alive your
[33:15] Speaker 2: fency and survival the human race or continue of the nation.
[33:18] Speaker 2: And one thing you best thing you could do to
[33:20] Speaker 2: get rid of the make the nation future is get
[33:23] Speaker 2: rid of those scumbags. So they may run to their
[33:25] Speaker 2: underground bunkers, but it's just going to be their execution chambers.
[33:29] Speaker 1: Something you said earlier. We have the capability not only
[33:33] Speaker 1: to get to Mars, but we may even have bases
[33:36] Speaker 1: on Mars. What are we capable of? How far can
[33:39] Speaker 1: we go? And what kind of crafts are doing this?
[33:43] Speaker 2: Oh? Well, they just it's electro gravity craft that fly
[33:45] Speaker 2: around our social system. They've been to all the planets
[33:47] Speaker 2: and done all that stuff. Really yeah, but it's unfortunately
[33:51] Speaker 2: it's like a one.
[33:51] Speaker 1: Way ride human boarded are Ye.
[33:55] Speaker 2: They've been to all the planets looking, you know, for
[33:56] Speaker 2: other things, and basically except for I don't think they
[34:01] Speaker 2: found other than the Moon. I don't think there's really
[34:03] Speaker 2: anything out there. And really, Enceladus that place as a
[34:08] Speaker 2: that actually has a really cool leftover alien base, Enceladus
[34:12] Speaker 2: and just where the where you could actually see the
[34:14] Speaker 2: guysers coming out. It's abandoned, but I don't know if
[34:16] Speaker 2: they've they've refurbished that. That's the only base I would
[34:19] Speaker 2: really want to hang out at. But I just wouldn't
[34:22] Speaker 2: fly in a US built interplanetary craft of the you know,
[34:28] Speaker 2: it's built by locking Mutton or Boeing Are you kidding me?
[34:31] Speaker 2: That's scary because you know, if something goes wrong and
[34:33] Speaker 2: everything does on those hanger queens, you know, the Russians
[34:36] Speaker 2: build so much better equipment.
[34:39] Speaker 1: We recently had mysterious deaths surrounding scientists that were either
[34:45] Speaker 1: in the UFO space or plasma. Some of them he'd
[34:49] Speaker 1: either gone missing or died. Do you have any thoughts
[34:53] Speaker 1: about the missing scientists?
[34:55] Speaker 2: Were they just erased them, that's all?
[34:58] Speaker 1: Do you think they were involved with something that if
[35:01] Speaker 1: they were to release enough information it would be dangerous
[35:05] Speaker 1: for the ruling class?
[35:06] Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, they just there's a been there's a This
[35:09] Speaker 2: happens a lot. It's like the head that general that disappeared,
[35:12] Speaker 2: he was he ran the UFO file. Yeah, and see,
[35:15] Speaker 2: everybody's expendable, and there is just a large number of
[35:18] Speaker 2: these people. They retire, right, and then all of a
[35:21] Speaker 2: sudden they die or disappear. And this isn't new. This
[35:24] Speaker 2: is not something new. Maybe people are noticing it now,
[35:27] Speaker 2: but this is pretty damn common. When you think you're big,
[35:30] Speaker 2: big wig, big cheese, right, and then you retire, Well
[35:34] Speaker 2: you've got knowledge that they don't want to talk you
[35:36] Speaker 2: to know, and they're just gonna erase you. That's what
[35:39] Speaker 2: They're just gonna race you, and so it doesn't become
[35:41] Speaker 2: a problem. It's the same with this ridiculous twenty years
[35:43] Speaker 2: and back. Although you know Corey could arrest those scammers,
[35:47] Speaker 2: that's not the way the military.
[35:48] Speaker 1: So we don't have jump rooms.
[35:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we don't. Yeah, it's you know, look, look,
[35:51] Speaker 2: if you were, that's not the way the military works.
[35:53] Speaker 2: Everybody's expendable, and if they put you out there twenty years,
[35:57] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they're just gonna and your time's up there.
[36:00] Speaker 2: They're not going to send you back to Earth. They're
[36:01] Speaker 2: just gonna like they're going to terminate you and throw
[36:04] Speaker 2: you in the recycle machine as it's going to happen.
[36:07] Speaker 2: That's the way the military works. And people think don't
[36:09] Speaker 2: understand that. They just don't understand the military.
[36:12] Speaker 1: Another narrative associated with that the secret Space Program. Those
[36:17] Speaker 1: that claim that we're about to enter this golden age
[36:21] Speaker 1: because all this technology is going to be released. I
[36:23] Speaker 1: have an extremely tough time getting behind that. Many of
[36:28] Speaker 1: them believe that we have these medical beds or some
[36:34] Speaker 1: kind of exotic technology that can heal humans in profound
[36:38] Speaker 1: ways that we may have access to in the near future.
[36:42] Speaker 1: If that does exist, I doubt we'd ever have access
[36:44] Speaker 1: to it. But do you think there is something like that?
[36:47] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, there's their lectostatic pulse and some other technologies. Yeah,
[36:50] Speaker 2: we have advanced technologies, but you're not going to get them.
[36:53] Speaker 2: I mean, if we talked to Catherine Austin fitz right,
[36:55] Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever had her on.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Not yet, No, you'd be a.
[36:58] Speaker 2: Great guest to get on. But you know, she talked
[37:00] Speaker 2: about basically that the ruling elite is basic. They've basically
[37:04] Speaker 2: started an extermination program for the masses because they think
[37:08] Speaker 2: that they're going to be able to live for centuries.
[37:10] Speaker 2: And maybe they know a little bit about these technologies,
[37:13] Speaker 2: but there's the problem. And now they've got all these
[37:15] Speaker 2: robotics with AI and the robotics and stuff, so they
[37:18] Speaker 2: don't need all these useless eaters around, those pesky humans,
[37:22] Speaker 2: you know, using up resources. You know, basically you are
[37:25] Speaker 2: the carbon footprint they want to erase. So they just
[37:28] Speaker 2: want to like exterminate basically most of the humanity and uh,
[37:32] Speaker 2: maybe just keep a few around and then while they
[37:34] Speaker 2: live their long lives and absolute luxury with various you know,
[37:40] Speaker 2: servants and slaves to keep them going, and all the
[37:42] Speaker 2: robotics to run you know, the technology that's basically their
[37:46] Speaker 2: new tech future. And sorry, you're not going to get
[37:48] Speaker 2: a med bed. You're not going to get anything. You're
[37:51] Speaker 2: just going to get exterminated. That's their plan, and that's
[37:53] Speaker 2: their plan for you, and you know, you better realize that,
[37:56] Speaker 2: and you know, organize with your friends and family to survive.
[38:00] Speaker 1: Part of what's unfolding right now as we speak is
[38:05] Speaker 1: the technological surveillance net that is emerging everywhere. I don't
[38:11] Speaker 1: think it's avoidable anywhere. One of the big things that
[38:14] Speaker 1: people are actually rising up against, which I'm really happy
[38:18] Speaker 1: to see, is the data centers, although I still don't
[38:23] Speaker 1: know exactly what they're doing there. What the purpose of
[38:27] Speaker 1: these data centers are. There doesn't seem to be any
[38:30] Speaker 1: clear answers coming out. Do you have any thoughts about
[38:33] Speaker 1: what they're doing with this?
[38:34] Speaker 2: Well, the purpose of the data centers is to keep
[38:36] Speaker 2: surveillance on humanity, especially the Americans. They want total information awareness,
[38:42] Speaker 2: and they want it because they want to subjugate the
[38:45] Speaker 2: American population, of the world population in general, to their
[38:48] Speaker 2: new whatever their new world order is. This week, right,
[38:52] Speaker 2: and so one of the reasons is to totally prevent
[38:55] Speaker 2: anyone from standing up to their evil plans or their
[38:59] Speaker 2: evil alien masters plans which they're carrying out. And that's
[39:03] Speaker 2: what it is. I mean, they think they're gonna win.
[39:06] Speaker 2: I know that they're not gonna win, but well, I've.
[39:08] Speaker 1: Heard that they're building predictive models based off of not
[39:11] Speaker 1: only all the data they've collected since they had the Internet,
[39:15] Speaker 1: but because they have access to our phones and everything
[39:18] Speaker 1: we're doing and everywhere we're going and listening to every conversation,
[39:22] Speaker 1: they're building that digital avatar of yourself so they can
[39:27] Speaker 1: predict behaviors and maybe even mess with your everyday behaviors
[39:32] Speaker 1: by suggestions online or things that they're showing you stuff
[39:35] Speaker 1: like that.
[39:36] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. Edward Berneze, right, you've probably heard the
[39:39] Speaker 2: story of him, if listeners don't know about it. He
[39:41] Speaker 2: was the nephew of Freud, and you wrote a book Propaganda,
[39:44] Speaker 2: which is Gerbel's favorite book and other people's book because
[39:49] Speaker 2: it was it was basically the first manual on sales.
[39:53] Speaker 2: I mean, he was the guy that got women smoking, right,
[39:55] Speaker 2: the cigarette companies needed the women would never smoke. It
[39:58] Speaker 2: was a guy thing, right, and so he basically paid
[40:01] Speaker 2: suffragettes to smoke while they're marching and stuff and the
[40:05] Speaker 2: whole thing, and got women to smoke, which, of course
[40:07] Speaker 2: tens of millions of cancers and ruined lives and underweight
[40:11] Speaker 2: babies and everything, but it didn't matter. It's to make money, right,
[40:15] Speaker 2: And so I mean, the amount of money spent every
[40:17] Speaker 2: year in advertising is just vast. And then they've focused
[40:22] Speaker 2: in and really learned psychological techniques to control people so
[40:27] Speaker 2: you go out and buy their products. Well, that same
[40:29] Speaker 2: stuff is also run by the government, even more so
[40:33] Speaker 2: because their budgets are bigger to trust the science, believe
[40:38] Speaker 2: the narrative, become obedient, you know, and they like to
[40:42] Speaker 2: get people out into decadence right or the echo chambers
[40:46] Speaker 2: right where they want to get people distracted and focused
[40:49] Speaker 2: on other things rather than maybe higher cognitive functions and
[40:54] Speaker 2: organizing resistance against being enslaved. And yeah, absolutely, And you
[41:00] Speaker 2: can imagine imagine an alien species. I mean, just in
[41:02] Speaker 2: the last two hundred years, our the ability, our ability
[41:06] Speaker 2: to manipulate through psychology and sociology and all that kind
[41:09] Speaker 2: of stuff. Humans will imagine alien civilizations their abilities that
[41:13] Speaker 2: they've developed over you know, thousands of years, so it's
[41:17] Speaker 2: not too hard to manipulate human beings into believing all
[41:19] Speaker 2: kinds of crazy stuff. And then you know, like for instance,
[41:23] Speaker 2: the flat tartism. Sorry, you know, people are gonna get
[41:28] Speaker 2: lots of haters on this, and you can just hate
[41:29] Speaker 2: on go for baby, hate baby, hate me, because that
[41:34] Speaker 2: actually started as a bet in an intelligence agency and
[41:38] Speaker 2: one of the guys, Oh yeah, one of this guys said, oh,
[41:41] Speaker 2: I can get people to believe that the Earth is flat,
[41:43] Speaker 2: and this boss said, no, I don't believe that, but
[41:45] Speaker 2: he gave the funding. Right, so they hired these NASA
[41:47] Speaker 2: engineers and they wear their badges, and they actually went
[41:51] Speaker 2: out and found like gullible people because they have profiles
[41:54] Speaker 2: on you know, all dissonance you mean, oh yeah, anybody.
[41:57] Speaker 2: So they found the right ones, right with their psychological techniques,
[42:01] Speaker 2: which which they are really good at. Right, you have
[42:04] Speaker 2: like all these professors and doctorate's working twenty four to
[42:07] Speaker 2: seven on how to do this right. So they got
[42:09] Speaker 2: him in. They brought him in and they showed him
[42:11] Speaker 2: this map, you know, the round map with the ice
[42:13] Speaker 2: wall and everything. Oh, we can't let you take pictures.
[42:16] Speaker 2: But we'll let you look at it. And they told you, oh, yeah,
[42:18] Speaker 2: the world really is. And they had real with their
[42:21] Speaker 2: badges and everything, and it was just it was right,
[42:24] Speaker 2: and they got them to do this. And then after
[42:26] Speaker 2: it is over, of course, the guy probably took the
[42:27] Speaker 2: NASA engineers out to a great dinner and with drinks
[42:32] Speaker 2: and paid them a big stipend right for their time
[42:35] Speaker 2: and trouble. And they did to a couple people. And
[42:37] Speaker 2: then these people went out there and some of they
[42:39] Speaker 2: were probably financing them a little bit. And the next thing,
[42:41] Speaker 2: you know, there's something like six million Americans. There's seven
[42:44] Speaker 2: million Americans. I actually believe that the Earth is flat.
[42:47] Speaker 2: I mean look, I mean, like, who is that flat earth?
[42:51] Speaker 2: Dave and Arcapoco. You know, he's such a lying piece
[42:55] Speaker 2: of you know, because and he said, oh, I'll give
[42:59] Speaker 2: you two bitcoins if you can prove it wrong. Well
[43:01] Speaker 2: here to Dave, I told you this before, and where's
[43:03] Speaker 2: my two bitcoins? How can the sun shine on the
[43:07] Speaker 2: bottom of clouds in the morning when the sun rises
[43:10] Speaker 2: and you see the sun shining in the bottom of
[43:12] Speaker 2: the clouds, that's your sunrise. And at sunset the sun
[43:15] Speaker 2: shines in the bottoms of the clouds, right, how can
[43:19] Speaker 2: that happen on a flat Earth day? He flatter? Where's
[43:22] Speaker 2: the Yeah, see, so there's I just have total I mean, sorry,
[43:29] Speaker 2: if you think there's flat, you need to get your
[43:31] Speaker 2: head re examined. You're you're out of the You're you're
[43:33] Speaker 2: you're you're gone, dude. You're not part of the future,
[43:36] Speaker 2: You're not part of the revolution. You're you are just
[43:37] Speaker 2: basically one of their puppets, one of their victims. And uh,
[43:42] Speaker 2: and that's not the only thing, but but that's just
[43:44] Speaker 2: that's just the way it is. And you know, I
[43:46] Speaker 2: don't have time for those people anymore. That's why I
[43:47] Speaker 2: don't go to anarchopoke anymore, because it's just not worth it.
[43:50] Speaker 2: I can't like flat tards. It mult brain damages my brain.
[43:56] Speaker 1: Another popular topic that has been urging in conspiracy culture
[44:03] Speaker 1: the understanding of plasma and plasma science. Many speculate that
[44:07] Speaker 1: there's intelligence plasma, that this is a massive part of
[44:12] Speaker 1: ufology and free energy and a major hidden aspect of
[44:17] Speaker 1: our reality. And that's possibly also why some of these
[44:20] Speaker 1: scientists went missing. But I also know nobody can provide
[44:24] Speaker 1: a decent understanding of plasma. What exactly it is or
[44:31] Speaker 1: the functions of it. It seems like there's limited understanding
[44:35] Speaker 1: of it to begin with. But do you have any
[44:37] Speaker 1: thoughts on why plasma is becoming so popular to discuss?
[44:43] Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why it's coming so popular now,
[44:44] Speaker 2: but it's been around for a long time. Trevor James
[44:47] Speaker 2: Constable Raptu're familiar with him, and they live in the sky,
[44:52] Speaker 2: the cosmic pulse of life. He was talking about these
[44:54] Speaker 2: plasma beings in the fifties and the sixties and the seventies.
[44:57] Speaker 2: He actually wrote books about World War Two aces with
[45:01] Speaker 2: my uncle, Colonel Tolliver, So, so he's kind of like
[45:04] Speaker 2: family friend. And so I know Trevorer and he and I,
[45:07] Speaker 2: you know, I did is it? Derek ran Engineering still
[45:10] Speaker 2: do and uh and that kind of stuff. Yeah, that
[45:12] Speaker 2: was where it really started. And yeah, the whole concept
[45:15] Speaker 2: these plaza beings like the remember those pulser those translucent
[45:19] Speaker 2: pulsing things that happened when the tether incident.
[45:22] Speaker 1: Broke Yeah, oh yeah, Yeah, there's.
[45:25] Speaker 2: The space plankton. They actually come into the atmosphere, they
[45:28] Speaker 2: go out of the atmosphere. There's a whole bunch of
[45:30] Speaker 2: this plasmatic life that surrounds our planet. It's on our planet,
[45:35] Speaker 2: these glowing all of these glowing UFOs, they're actually plasmatic
[45:38] Speaker 2: life forms. In fact, Jay Widener is coming out with
[45:41] Speaker 2: a movie about or a new film about plasma beings
[45:45] Speaker 2: and plasma stuff. Definitely get him on because he's it's
[45:50] Speaker 2: a great it's a great Uh, it's a great movie.
[45:53] Speaker 2: And not were you released yet? I hope I'm not
[45:56] Speaker 2: jumping the gun, uh, but it's definitely yeah, oh yeah,
[45:59] Speaker 2: the plaza beings. And they had all those scientists came
[46:02] Speaker 2: out with that study and they you know, these are
[46:03] Speaker 2: all top PhDs, and they talked about how plasma really
[46:06] Speaker 2: shows signs of intelligent behavior. It's like self organizing and
[46:10] Speaker 2: so it's another type of life. And the and the
[46:13] Speaker 2: and prever James Constable had like the whole book they
[46:15] Speaker 2: Live in the Sky, the Cosmic Pulse of Life about
[46:18] Speaker 2: these plasma like beings. Yeah, sure a lot. And that's
[46:21] Speaker 2: a whole lot of UFOs. Literally are these things. They're
[46:24] Speaker 2: not nuts and bolts. They're actually life forms that uh
[46:28] Speaker 2: that that are out there, especially the glowing the glowing
[46:31] Speaker 2: ones and stuff. So that yeah, that's that's actually another
[46:34] Speaker 2: total type of life form that exists in outer space.
[46:38] Speaker 2: And like the ring makers of Saturn, you remember that
[46:41] Speaker 2: they had these giant beings, were giant plasma beings were
[46:44] Speaker 2: in Saturn's rings because they are made of something and
[46:47] Speaker 2: part of that something is water, and they were there
[46:50] Speaker 2: getting a drink, right they come into Saturn's rings is
[46:53] Speaker 2: where if you want to get water, where is it available? Well,
[46:55] Speaker 2: the rings of Saturn are shattered, you know, ice moon,
[46:58] Speaker 2: and so they were coming there and oddly get a drink.
[47:01] Speaker 2: We see those same beings coming in and out of
[47:03] Speaker 2: the Earth's atmosphere and out and outer space. NASA has
[47:06] Speaker 2: just like thousands of hours on these thick creatures, right,
[47:10] Speaker 2: these pulsing plasmatic creatures.
[47:13] Speaker 1: Even with the suppression of the information and the muddying
[47:17] Speaker 1: of waters and misinformation being put out there right now,
[47:21] Speaker 1: I don't see how the reality of these topics that
[47:26] Speaker 1: we're discussing, like extraterrestrials, plasma beings, hidden advanced technology, is
[47:32] Speaker 1: going to be able to remain hidden from us. There
[47:36] Speaker 1: just seems to be so many people clamoring for more
[47:39] Speaker 1: information and it seems to be busting out no matter
[47:42] Speaker 1: what do you think, Eventually it's just gonna come out.
[47:46] Speaker 2: Well, it needs to be a change in the mind.
[47:47] Speaker 2: It's never been hidden from us. It's been in front
[47:50] Speaker 2: of our faces the whole time. Charles Darwin in his
[47:53] Speaker 2: Voyage the Beagle describes us encounter. It was on Terra
[47:57] Speaker 2: de Fuego, the very tip of South America. There was
[48:00] Speaker 2: like uncontacted Indian tribes, right or married tribes what do
[48:04] Speaker 2: you want to call them? And there's a recount of
[48:07] Speaker 2: the skip because they used to cross the cape. I
[48:10] Speaker 2: guess that would be anyway, what is it, the Tirat
[48:13] Speaker 2: to Fuego. They crossed that area into the roaring forties.
[48:16] Speaker 2: It's really rough seas, really really dangerous, and they had
[48:21] Speaker 2: one of the clipper ships was going through there and
[48:23] Speaker 2: ran into a storm, was severely damaged, and so it
[48:25] Speaker 2: had to go onto Turreti Fago, which is basically a
[48:27] Speaker 2: bunch of islands that the tip of South America breaks
[48:30] Speaker 2: down these islands, and they come in on this one.
[48:32] Speaker 2: They find a safe, safe fish harbor, you know, kind
[48:37] Speaker 2: of where they could go. So they bring their clippership in.
[48:39] Speaker 2: You know, this is the thing with like five layers
[48:41] Speaker 2: of sails and you know, one hundred yard one hundred
[48:44] Speaker 2: and fifty yard, you know, the big giant ships, and
[48:47] Speaker 2: they come in there and they're like maybe one hundred
[48:50] Speaker 2: and fifty yards off shore right not very far. It's
[48:53] Speaker 2: a big ship, and there's a little tribe of Indians,
[48:55] Speaker 2: you know, six or seven of them right there on
[48:57] Speaker 2: the shore and they don't even notice it. So here's
[49:00] Speaker 2: and you know, these people are pulling down sails and
[49:03] Speaker 2: dropping anchor and there's dozens of people moving all over
[49:05] Speaker 2: the ship getting it, you know, secured and starting to
[49:08] Speaker 2: repair from the damage of the storm. And the Indians
[49:12] Speaker 2: are there for a half an for like an hour
[49:14] Speaker 2: and a half until one of them recognizes that's just
[49:17] Speaker 2: not some weird looking iceberg. That's like a giant canoe
[49:20] Speaker 2: full of people. And they later learned that was like
[49:23] Speaker 2: the Shaman and then at that point they just totally
[49:26] Speaker 2: freak out and ran off into the mu Hills. Later
[49:28] Speaker 2: they came back down, you know, the ship people gave
[49:32] Speaker 2: them some gifts and stuff and you know, kind of
[49:34] Speaker 2: communicated with them. But the reason was, you know, even
[49:37] Speaker 2: though there was this giant clipper ship with all these
[49:40] Speaker 2: people making all kinds of noise, one hundred and fifty
[49:42] Speaker 2: yards off the thing, the engines or those Terry de
[49:46] Speaker 2: Fuegens could not see it because the concept was not
[49:49] Speaker 2: in their mind. So you can have something right in
[49:53] Speaker 2: front of your eyes, but if the concept for its
[49:56] Speaker 2: existence is not in your mind, you can't see it.
[49:59] Speaker 2: Because we don't we see with our eyes, we see
[50:01] Speaker 2: with our mind. And so I think why we people
[50:04] Speaker 2: haven't been able to see the extraterrestrial presence or all
[50:07] Speaker 2: of this other stuff is because the concept of it
[50:10] Speaker 2: is it in their mind. And if the concept isn't
[50:13] Speaker 2: in their mind, even though their eyes may be seeing it,
[50:16] Speaker 2: their brain's not registering it, and for them it doesn't exist.
[50:21] Speaker 1: Earlier, you mentioned the flat Earth psychological operation. Like you said,
[50:27] Speaker 1: that's not the only one. There is plenty happening right now.
[50:31] Speaker 1: But you commented on a video that I did not
[50:35] Speaker 1: too long ago about how the Tartaria theories are most
[50:40] Speaker 1: likely a psyop as well. I'd love to expand on
[50:44] Speaker 1: that a little bit.
[50:45] Speaker 2: Look, it's Tartaria is just Orthodox Christianity. There is this
[50:51] Speaker 2: thing called Orthodox Christianity, which you know is like all Russia,
[50:54] Speaker 2: all that area, and it's been around farewell since about
[50:57] Speaker 2: as long as the Christian religion has been around, and
[51:00] Speaker 2: it's not some Tartaria is actually a little tiny spot
[51:04] Speaker 2: in Russia right, run by the Tartars, who were actually
[51:07] Speaker 2: Mongols descendants of Mongols. They look just like Russians, but
[51:11] Speaker 2: it's it's but no, no, it was just Russian Orthodox Christian.
[51:15] Speaker 2: But the whole thing that there was like cities existing
[51:17] Speaker 2: in America before the Americans got here and they just
[51:20] Speaker 2: took over the bs. Our ancestors built that, right, the
[51:24] Speaker 2: ancestors of the Russians built all of this. There's a
[51:26] Speaker 2: whole damn civilization in Eastern Europe right in Russia that
[51:30] Speaker 2: these people built, big cathedrals, big cities, all this kind
[51:33] Speaker 2: of stuff. Yes, they existed, but they used Currilic scrip, right,
[51:36] Speaker 2: not our strip. So the fact that we never learned
[51:40] Speaker 2: about this Orthodox Christian civilization, you know, doesn't mean it
[51:44] Speaker 2: didn't exist, but we should call it for what it is,
[51:46] Speaker 2: orthodox Christian civilization.
[51:48] Speaker 1: Do you think there were advanced civilizations in the America's
[51:52] Speaker 1: pre Native Americans? They are finding these strange Egyptian like
[51:57] Speaker 1: artifacts in the Grand Canyon and other areas around there.
[52:01] Speaker 1: Could that be possible?
[52:03] Speaker 2: I don't think there was any I mean that marriage
[52:05] Speaker 2: civilizations we have sure. I mean, look at the story
[52:07] Speaker 2: of quetzal Quaddle, right, the blonde hair of God who
[52:10] Speaker 2: comes from overseas with his buddies, and they set up
[52:12] Speaker 2: all this stuff. I mean, that's probably been going on
[52:14] Speaker 2: for a while. I mean, when they were doing the
[52:16] Speaker 2: New Kingdom Pharaohs, they were testing their tissues and DNA,
[52:22] Speaker 2: they picked up tobacco and cocaine and they were kind
[52:27] Speaker 2: of upset because it was in Italy, and they figured
[52:30] Speaker 2: it was just the Italian researchers, you know, we're smoking
[52:32] Speaker 2: and doing a little blow they were working on the mummies.
[52:36] Speaker 2: So they were really upset. So they went back and
[52:38] Speaker 2: they they redid the test, and yeah, they found cocaine
[52:42] Speaker 2: and nicotine in the tissues of Egyptian monies. And the
[52:47] Speaker 2: Phoenicians were going to the Americas and bringing back cocaine
[52:51] Speaker 2: and tobacco and it was probably really expensive, so at
[52:54] Speaker 2: least the Pharaohs had it. So, you know, the Pharaohs
[52:56] Speaker 2: were doing lines in the you know or whatever and
[53:00] Speaker 2: the end the pyramids back then and smoking tobacco, whereas
[53:03] Speaker 2: the pebs leaves didn't get that. And that's so obviously
[53:08] Speaker 2: there's been cross atlantic trade for a very long time
[53:12] Speaker 2: and in the remnants of this and the effects of that. Yeah,
[53:16] Speaker 2: they're probably. I mean that the pyramids in Egypt and
[53:20] Speaker 2: the pyramids in South America, North and South America, I
[53:24] Speaker 2: guess Central and South America are probably. Yeah, there is
[53:28] Speaker 2: some relationship there. I believe there has been. And then
[53:30] Speaker 2: there's on the west coast of South America they find
[53:34] Speaker 2: all those elongated head people. Yeah, they do their DNA
[53:38] Speaker 2: and their DNA traces back to an area by the
[53:40] Speaker 2: Caspian Sea, the Caspian Black Sea, and they were the
[53:44] Speaker 2: elite ruling class. So obviously how did they get from
[53:46] Speaker 2: the Caspian Black Sea to running a couple societies in
[53:50] Speaker 2: South America. Well, obviously by boats or something. So yeah,
[53:53] Speaker 2: they're definitely. This kurants the belief that I think, who
[53:56] Speaker 2: is that I'm trying to remember his name again, Grand Hamcock.
[54:01] Speaker 2: Yeah he was. Yeah, he had that whole and I
[54:04] Speaker 2: think his hypothesis. Look, he's only a reporter, he's not
[54:07] Speaker 2: an archaeologist or a scientist. You don't give him a break.
[54:12] Speaker 2: But I think he's put together a lot of evidence
[54:14] Speaker 2: that there was ancient seafaring civilizations that traveled across the
[54:18] Speaker 2: oceans to the different continents that existed. I mean, they
[54:22] Speaker 2: discovered off the coast of India, like sixty miles off
[54:25] Speaker 2: the coast, cities, brick cities with streets and sewer systems
[54:30] Speaker 2: and like the whole damn thing of civilization. And they
[54:33] Speaker 2: existed before the sea level rose. That's like twelve thousand
[54:36] Speaker 2: years ago, right before that giant rise in sea level,
[54:39] Speaker 2: there was obviously these advanced cities along the what was
[54:42] Speaker 2: the coastline of India back then, and of course the
[54:45] Speaker 2: water rose four hundred feet after the ice sheets melted
[54:48] Speaker 2: and those places were submerged. So yeah, the story of
[54:51] Speaker 2: human civilization didn't start in Mesopotamia. It was clearly at
[54:55] Speaker 2: advanced societies on the coast of India twelve thousand years ago.
[55:00] Speaker 2: Agriculture type things, irrigation, the whole you know, canal is
[55:04] Speaker 2: the whole thing, right, and so's it's uh yeah, our history,
[55:08] Speaker 2: like Gregon Hancock says, has not really been fully explored
[55:12] Speaker 2: and discovered. You know, he's probably not perfect. Some of
[55:15] Speaker 2: this hypothesis might not be correct, but quite frankly, his
[55:18] Speaker 2: basic proposition I believe is true of ancient not quote
[55:23] Speaker 2: as we call advanced civilization, but at least somewhat advanced.
[55:26] Speaker 2: They could travel the world, They had you know, sophisticated cities.
[55:30] Speaker 2: It was, you know, a global wide system of interconnected things,
[55:33] Speaker 2: which the catastrophe of the New Dryas and the rise
[55:36] Speaker 2: and sea level kind of erased and we kind of
[55:39] Speaker 2: got reset and it was wasn't It was like four
[55:42] Speaker 2: thousand years later that we got back to where we'd
[55:44] Speaker 2: been before that catastrophe of the Younger Dryis.
[55:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, such an interesting time to be alive with such
[55:51] Speaker 1: amazing information coming out right now, Ken, Earlier you mentioned
[55:56] Speaker 1: C sixty before we close out, Remind everybody C sixty.
[56:01] Speaker 1: This was such a beneficial thing in my life. Completely
[56:06] Speaker 1: changed everything around for me. I think it reversed aging
[56:09] Speaker 1: for me a bit too. But tell everybody about it.
[56:13] Speaker 2: Okay, See sixty. It's a carbon molecule of sixty atoms
[56:17] Speaker 2: shaped exactly like a little little soccer ball. Now I
[56:21] Speaker 2: didn't discover it. It was discovered nineteen eighty five by
[56:24] Speaker 2: Harry Croto, Richard Smalley, and Robert Then we get back
[56:30] Speaker 2: to here, we'll get back to there. Yeah, Harry Croda,
[56:33] Speaker 2: Richard Smalley, and Robert anyway, what's uh, But those three
[56:36] Speaker 2: guys got it. They got a Gobel Prize in nineteen
[56:38] Speaker 2: ninety six with in chemistry because it's kind of unique,
[56:42] Speaker 2: like it's all spherical save Adams, and but it's its
[56:47] Speaker 2: scientific name is Buckminster Fullering. And some of you older
[56:50] Speaker 2: people out there might remember Buckminster Fuller. He was in
[56:53] Speaker 2: the sixties and seventy. He was probably like a polymath.
[56:55] Speaker 2: He was the guy that made all those hippie domes,
[56:57] Speaker 2: like the geodesic domes. He was kind of the guy
[57:00] Speaker 2: that did that. And he actually predicted that the molecule
[57:03] Speaker 2: would exist and would have amazing health benefits decades before
[57:08] Speaker 2: that was discovered. And of course the guys that were
[57:11] Speaker 2: doing it, if you were living back then, which I
[57:13] Speaker 2: kind of was, you know, everybody kind of like Winster
[57:16] Speaker 2: Fuller and he was kind of like an icon back then, right,
[57:20] Speaker 2: this kind of iconic scientist or maybe kindoclastic scientists, but
[57:26] Speaker 2: you know, and so that's what his name. And it
[57:28] Speaker 2: wasn't until the early two thousands they they did testing
[57:32] Speaker 2: for toxicity in the famous Botry study. It actually increased
[57:35] Speaker 2: the lifespan of test animals by ninety percent. Now those
[57:39] Speaker 2: were wister rats. They're kind of whoosy rats, and they're
[57:42] Speaker 2: usually they die of cancers. And because if you do
[57:44] Speaker 2: in toxicity, you don't want street rats, right, tough ass
[57:46] Speaker 2: street trats, no eve whiosy rats. And so that's that
[57:50] Speaker 2: was you know it. Basically gust rats died of cancers
[57:52] Speaker 2: and none of the C sixty wister rats got cancer.
[57:54] Speaker 2: So that's why they lived ninety percent longer. And then
[57:57] Speaker 2: they did some other studies where they basic did wild
[58:00] Speaker 2: type mice. There's there's a website called what isc sixty
[58:03] Speaker 2: dot org. It's a five oh one C three And
[58:06] Speaker 2: then if you have any of people want to go
[58:08] Speaker 2: out there and check it out and learn about it,
[58:09] Speaker 2: it's because you know, the website our company C sixty Shop.
[58:13] Speaker 2: C sixty dot com is our website C sixty Power.
[58:16] Speaker 2: But we can only post animals human studies, right because
[58:19] Speaker 2: that making animal studies doesn't correlate with humans and anyway
[58:23] Speaker 2: other things. But what is C sixty dot org? You
[58:26] Speaker 2: can get all the stuff out there, and they did
[58:28] Speaker 2: like a mouse study wild type mice, and it increased
[58:31] Speaker 2: the life span of wild type mice and completely prevented
[58:33] Speaker 2: cognitive decline during aging. Which is kind of what you're
[58:37] Speaker 2: looking for, because what good is getting old if you're
[58:39] Speaker 2: going to be decrepit drooling in a wheelchair, right, So
[58:42] Speaker 2: CC kind of increases your health span the time when
[58:45] Speaker 2: you're healthy and liab well, by the way, I'm sixty
[58:49] Speaker 2: five and I've probably been using C sixty longer than
[58:52] Speaker 2: anybody else on the planet that I know of, and
[58:55] Speaker 2: I was using it for radiation protected because they did
[58:58] Speaker 2: this study where they gave one set of out C
[58:59] Speaker 2: sixty the other didn't. They hit them with the fatal
[59:02] Speaker 2: dose of radiation and the C sixty routes live with
[59:05] Speaker 2: the control route died. And that was in the metal
[59:07] Speaker 2: oxygen fusion reactor project because there was a lot of
[59:10] Speaker 2: dead PhDs and professors associated with this kind of research,
[59:14] Speaker 2: and I didn't want my crew myself because they had
[59:16] Speaker 2: families to end up in that. Basically, what it is
[59:19] Speaker 2: metal oxygen fusion or oxygen driven fusion lowers the colon barrier,
[59:23] Speaker 2: that's the energy. It takes a few stuff together, so
[59:25] Speaker 2: it gives out. It gives out in the X ray band,
[59:28] Speaker 2: not the gamma ray ban. So all these scientists were
[59:31] Speaker 2: walking around with Geiger counters, which only did because according
[59:33] Speaker 2: to them, fusion has to producing gamma rays, right, high
[59:37] Speaker 2: energy gamma rays. So they were walking around with their
[59:39] Speaker 2: Geiger counters and they were detecting very much where all
[59:42] Speaker 2: the time they were cooking their ass with X rays.
[59:45] Speaker 2: And another thing like remember all those ColdFusion dudes that
[59:48] Speaker 2: were doing like the electrolysis cells like Fleischmann and Ponds
[59:51] Speaker 2: and those guys. There is pladium and platinum and the things.
[59:55] Speaker 2: One of the things metal action. What was going on
[59:57] Speaker 2: there was not like deterium fusing in the metal app
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: What happened was oxygen was fusing with the platinum where
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: oxygen was fusing with the pladium. And when you fuse
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: platinum with oxygen, guess what you make? You make radon.
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: And because it's electroalytics sell it. It's bubbling out and
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: going into the laboratory air. They were like breathing like
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: a thousand times the worst rad on basement you can imagine.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: So that's why they were late professors. And so anyway,
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: if you are going to play with moxy fusion, you
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: go outline Metal oxygen Fusion research Gate. You can you
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: can find it read about it. If you are going
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: to play with that, make sure you're taking some C sixty, don't,
[1:00:32] Speaker 2: you know, so you don't cook yourself. It is inherently dangerous.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: But there's other things you know that C sixty does.
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: Like I blew out a knee on one wheel several
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: years ago, and they said I'd have to get surgery,
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: and well, now my knee is perfectly good. Maybe it's
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: even better than the other one. There's another study that
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: they did, a human rats rabbit study. They basically gave
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: these rabbits arthritis. Right in C sixty is knowing to
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: be a great anti inflammatory, and so they were going
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: to their rabbits knees with C sixty and you know,
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: see if it reduces inflammation, which of course it did,
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: right that was expected. And then when they sacrifice the
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: rabbits because that's what they do, and look at the joints,
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: they actually found the cartilage had regrown.
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: Oh wow.
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: And that's they discovered later there's other research. That's why
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: what is C sixty dot org is a good place
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: to go is they discovered that C sixty causes senescence,
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: causes sinesseen cells to commit apoptosis, that's programmed cell death.
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: Usually the P fifty because a sinessen cells like a
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: zombie cell in your body. Right, it's DNA is usually damage,
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: it's past its useful life cycle, and it's supposed to
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: go out, but it doesn't want to go out. This
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: happens especially as you get older, just kind of hangs around,
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: goes into the fermentation mode where it's burning twenty times
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: more energy than a regular cell and putting out toxic
[1:01:53] Speaker 2: poisons to the cells around it. It's fermenting, right. C
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: sixty goes into a sinesent cell cancer is a form
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: of sinesten cell, by the way, and restarts the mitochondria
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: because C sixty is key for monochondria, and then the
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: mitochondria will send messages of the nuclear day, they won't
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: get the right message back and it causes apoptosis of
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: those sinesseen cells. So it wipes out the zombie cells
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: in your body, and then that causes your body to
[1:02:16] Speaker 2: produce a huge amount of stem cells to replace those
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: now missing cells. And like the very first human study,
[1:02:22] Speaker 2: they made a cream for Japanese women and they found
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: that this facial cream reduced lines, wrinkles and Japanese women
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: And now we know it's because it recreates the stem cells.
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: And if you have more stem cells in your skin,
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: when your skin turns over, it you have less lines
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: and wrinkles. And for me, it healed up well, got
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: rid of my macular degeneration. I forgot that story. Yeah,
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: And at seven months after I started taking C sixty
[1:02:46] Speaker 2: for the moxy fusion reactor project, I went into my
[1:02:48] Speaker 2: optometrist or my drus or dry maculate degeneration had completely disappeared,
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: which kind of freaked out my optometrist because he'd never
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: seen that happen before. And then what really started it
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: at that time, Gary Rodrig, He was my electrical engineer
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: on the job and he developed severe wet macular degeneration.
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: So I made a product, the first first ever product
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: C sixty and mctol because of some of your listening
[1:03:12] Speaker 2: to MCT's medium change, Like glycerites can be turned into
[1:03:15] Speaker 2: keytnes very quickly by your liver, and key tones are
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: like flex fuel for your cells. Your cells can run
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: off glucose or they could run off keytnes, and so
[1:03:22] Speaker 2: if you've got a glucose processing issue. Gary had type
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: two diabetes, so he took a tablespoon a month for
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: fifteen months and his severe wet maculate degeneration went away
[1:03:33] Speaker 2: and his type two diabetes went subclinical. Now now, right now,
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: I don't run the company anymore because I may be
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: starting company and a good research scientist, but maybe not
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: the best CEO. Okay, And so Jess runs it now.
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: And Jess our CEO just had her first baby at
[1:03:51] Speaker 2: forty nine.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Oh wow.
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's another thing that's a co indication of
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: women out there be careful because obviously trying for the baby,
[1:04:01] Speaker 2: but there's a lot of women in their late thirties
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: and early forties who didn't think they could get pregnant
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: got pregnant with the with C sixty. So there's dozens
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: of C sixty babies out there. Fortunately I have don't
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: don't have to pay child support on them, otherwise they
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: be bankrupt. But that is a co indicator of C
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: sixty may cause unexpected pregnancies. Why they say older women,
[1:04:24] Speaker 2: because what it does is C sixty goes into your
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: mitochondria and restarts them. Right, it's an SOD catalyse mimic
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: and SOD and catalyse the key antioxidants in your mitochondria.
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: So your mitochondriastart. Now most people know wyo chondria make ATP,
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: the energy molecule of yoursel, right, ninety five percent of
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: your energy runs off of that. But the mitochondria also
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: make pregnantial one, the precursor molecule for all the hormones
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: and uh, and so your hormone levels like everything, like
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: the pineal gland, the pituitary you know, HYPE, the petuitary
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: hypothalmis complex, you know, human growth thermone T three and
[1:04:56] Speaker 2: T four, and your thyroid and and you know, and
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: it also restarts your adrenal gland. And one of the
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: things your dreaming glands make are androgens, and those get
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: converted into the testosterone, estrogen and progesterone. So actually, older
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: guys out there and older women out there, it works
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: the same. It causes in a huge increase in libido.
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: So not only does your your hormones get back up there,
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: so if you're older women, you can get pregnant, but
[1:05:19] Speaker 2: also you have the encouragement to actually do the job
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: to make that happen, So it's double there. But it
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: also if you're on a blood thinner, by the way,
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: you need to like consult with your doctor because the
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: adrenals make mineral corticoids, which regulates quote blood thickness, not
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: that that's a medical term, and I am not a
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: medical doctor and cannot give the medical advice. But if
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: your adrenals restart, you've got mental corticoids and you're taking
[1:05:41] Speaker 2: a blood thinner, Now your blood could become too thin
[1:05:45] Speaker 2: and that would be a problem. So don't guess test
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: talk to your doctor on that stuff. So, I mean,
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: I could go on and on about the you know,
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: here I am sixty five looking pretty good, but animal
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: test studies have shown even better. What is C sixty
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: dot org. So I think someday see sixty, you'd be
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: as ubiquitous as vitamins Vitamin C.
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope.
[1:06:04] Speaker 2: So those early adapter things that people will eventually get
[1:06:07] Speaker 2: around understanding, oh well, you know whatever, it's uh. And
[1:06:11] Speaker 2: so it's just like if you want really good health,
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: especially as a gray hair crowd, that's where that's where
[1:06:17] Speaker 2: you're really gonna know it. Like you had the experience, right.
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: I did. I had an amazing experience. Not only did
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: I start to feel more energy and actually feel younger
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: in a very short amount of time, there were unexpected
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: side effects like weight loss, and some things happened with
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: my teeth that were unexpected. Not anything bad, quite the opposite.
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: Actually C sixty is one of the most incredible things
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: that I've come across. It's amazing for pets too, right.
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it's shop C sixty dot com. And
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: but people SEE sixty has been around. Actually it's the
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: it's actually the Philosopher's Stone that the agent alchemists did.
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: And that's funny because I am an actual alchemist. You know,
[1:06:59] Speaker 2: pub alchemists and countries all around the world are doing
[1:07:02] Speaker 2: well kind of my alchemy, but also SEE sixties like
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[1:07:08] Speaker 2: Oh crazy. Yeah, there's a way they used to make
[1:07:10] Speaker 2: it in the past. But uh yeah. It's one of
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: those things that you know, if you're an early adapter
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: and you want to have good health, you know, especially
[1:07:18] Speaker 2: as you get older, if you're in your twenties or thirties,
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: you know, you won't care until you're in your forties
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