# Randy Veitenheimer | Dream Programming, Consciousness Interference, Data Center Avatars

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 10 Jun 2026, 1 h 02 min.

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## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
[0:04] Speaker 1: and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
[0:08] Speaker 1: that people are going to have to talk about how
[0:10] Speaker 1: weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
[0:14] Speaker 1: your host Chris Matthew. Today, my guest is Randy Weidenheimer.
[0:19] Speaker 1: Check out my films. A Cal Louisiana is on two
[0:21] Speaker 1: b doors of Perception on Amazon Prime. We're booking guests
[0:25] Speaker 1: for July. If you have suggestions or you'd like to
[0:28] Speaker 1: be a guest, email me Forbidden Knowledge Neews at gmail
[0:31] Speaker 1: dot com. Today want to welcome back to the show,
[0:34] Speaker 1: Randy Weidenheimer. He is an energy healer, modern day medicine man,
[0:39] Speaker 1: author and artist. He has studied martial arts, Native American medicine, ways,
[0:45] Speaker 1: Chinese energetic medicine, are A, Vedic medicine, yoga, and quantum physics.
[0:51] Speaker 1: He also hosted the gay A series Quantum Effect. Randy,
[0:55] Speaker 1: Welcome back. How you doing doing good?
[1:00] Speaker 2: I guess that's our way is how we start may
[1:03] Speaker 2: not be uh, what we call local reality, but it's
[1:07] Speaker 2: something when we apparently default too. Oh I'm doing great,
[1:13] Speaker 2: yeah apart, but I'm doing great here.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Might as well, man might as well, So thank you
[1:19] Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Last week I made a
[1:23] Speaker 1: post on social media about having trouble sleeping for the
[1:26] Speaker 1: past few months, and not only myself, but almost everyone
[1:30] Speaker 1: I know is having some level of sleep disruption. I've
[1:34] Speaker 1: had occasional insomnia since I was a kid, but for
[1:38] Speaker 1: the last few months there have been several nights where
[1:41] Speaker 1: I've been awake the entire night, my mind unable to
[1:44] Speaker 1: shut off, strange, intrusive thoughts, general discomfort, all the same
[1:49] Speaker 1: with my wife as well. We've started turning off all electronics,
[1:54] Speaker 1: all Wi Fi, but still experiencing the same sleeplessness. And
[1:59] Speaker 1: you made a comment on my posts that said something
[2:02] Speaker 1: along the lines of direct interference and program control of
[2:07] Speaker 1: dream state, so I immediately contacted you asked if you
[2:11] Speaker 1: could come on and explain more on the show, and
[2:14] Speaker 1: here we are. So thank you again for coming on.
[2:17] Speaker 1: Before we get into this, it's been a while since
[2:19] Speaker 1: you've been on. Remind the audience just a little bit
[2:21] Speaker 1: about yourself and let them know how they can find
[2:23] Speaker 1: out more.
[2:25] Speaker 2: Okay, my name is Randy Wittenheimer. You can find me,
[2:29] Speaker 2: of course on all the social media and stuff. I
[2:33] Speaker 2: recently released a book called War Day, which is to
[2:37] Speaker 2: address energy interactions during the day, and after completing that
[2:43] Speaker 2: and finally releasing it this month, I started work on
[2:48] Speaker 2: War Night, and the idea being that at night is
[2:53] Speaker 2: a whole different game than day, but we kind of
[2:56] Speaker 2: abandon ourselves to it without any kind of necessary preparation
[3:00] Speaker 2: or are any idea of what's going to happen or
[3:04] Speaker 2: even worse, what we're going to face when we sleep
[3:08] Speaker 2: at night. And of course we have history. It started
[3:13] Speaker 2: out with the fairy tales and the monsters under the bed,
[3:18] Speaker 2: and you know, I tell people, if you really want
[3:20] Speaker 2: to understand what we're talking about, go watch monsters inc. Yeah,
[3:26] Speaker 2: that's actually there is a monster under your bed. There
[3:29] Speaker 2: is a monster in the closet. But anyway, I work
[3:34] Speaker 2: as what's called an energy healer. I practice medical gegong therapy.
[3:40] Speaker 2: If anybody's interested, it's a discipline that comes out of
[3:43] Speaker 2: China and Chinese Energetic Medicine CEM, and I've been doing that,
[3:50] Speaker 2: studying it for fifty something years. So the end result
[3:55] Speaker 2: of that is you kind of get off into something
[3:57] Speaker 2: very important, and that is a study of humans. Okay,
[4:02] Speaker 2: if somebody asked me, I'd say, I'm a student of
[4:05] Speaker 2: humanology their language, right, And of course, warnight is something
[4:14] Speaker 2: that I'd already been off into because of the problems
[4:18] Speaker 2: that occur when we sleep, and I consider that normal
[4:23] Speaker 2: until about last July, and then it became something different.
[4:29] Speaker 2: And that's where the interference patterns and everything alerted me
[4:35] Speaker 2: that something was way different, and of course then I
[4:38] Speaker 2: wanted to know what that was. Okay, So that's how
[4:42] Speaker 2: we got here to today, and of course I've been
[4:45] Speaker 2: heavily researching it for the last nine ten months, I guess.
[4:49] Speaker 1: So maybe a great place to start with this would
[4:54] Speaker 1: be to talk about what normal sleep looks like through
[5:00] Speaker 1: the lens of metaphysics and what our energy body is doing.
[5:06] Speaker 2: Okay, in what I call number one reality. It's a
[5:15] Speaker 2: function of serotonin and melotonin in the brain. You can
[5:22] Speaker 2: think of it as a cup that fills up with
[5:24] Speaker 2: serotonin melatonin during the day, you lay down that the
[5:28] Speaker 2: cup tips over and you gradually metabolize your serotonin melotonin.
[5:33] Speaker 2: And if you have problems, they generally recommend melatonin or
[5:38] Speaker 2: something as a supplement. But the idea is that you
[5:42] Speaker 2: would produce enough and it would burn off to the
[5:45] Speaker 2: point that that's five, six, seven, eight o'clock in the morning,
[5:49] Speaker 2: you would wake up because you had exhausted all the
[5:52] Speaker 2: serotonin and melatonin. Now that's the physical medical explanation of sleep.
[6:00] Speaker 2: The other aspect of it is that you sleep in
[6:04] Speaker 2: my world like one to ten scale ten, nine, eight, seven,
[6:08] Speaker 2: sixty five, four, whatever. So babies sleep at the four
[6:12] Speaker 2: or five range where they're regenerating and rejuvenating the body
[6:16] Speaker 2: and growing. Most humans sleep in the eight nine or
[6:20] Speaker 2: ten ten is when you're kind of daydreaming or not
[6:23] Speaker 2: really sleeping. And then of course the other night, like
[6:27] Speaker 2: you said you and your wife were sleeping at eleven
[6:29] Speaker 2: or twelve, you have alertness coming in. Well, alertness comes
[6:34] Speaker 2: in because of fear, or because of threat, or because
[6:37] Speaker 2: of negative energy. Okay, so it's possible, like I reset
[6:44] Speaker 2: people to sleep ten nine, eight, seven, six, because I
[6:47] Speaker 2: like five or six is an area to allow my
[6:50] Speaker 2: body to regenerate, rejuvenating, and most importantly recharge. See we're
[6:55] Speaker 2: back to that energy statement. So ultimately sleep is to
[7:00] Speaker 2: recharge your batteries. It's very simple, and you deplete your
[7:05] Speaker 2: battery during the day and at night you're supposed to
[7:08] Speaker 2: recharge it, and if you don't, you wake up tired.
[7:12] Speaker 2: So that's kind of how we got here or what
[7:17] Speaker 2: that's right.
[7:20] Speaker 1: As far as the disruptions that have been occurring recently,
[7:27] Speaker 1: what would you say is the root causes of this
[7:32] Speaker 1: and why?
[7:35] Speaker 2: Well, since I ran out of conspiracy theories, I probably
[7:39] Speaker 2: had to create one of my own, and the universe
[7:43] Speaker 2: has been very compliant and producing information that just may
[7:48] Speaker 2: contribute to whatever insanity I got going on. So the
[7:55] Speaker 2: explanation is that the electro thatic spectrum is managed by
[8:03] Speaker 2: a group out of the un that assigns em spectrum
[8:08] Speaker 2: based on you by certain bands or areas of frequency,
[8:14] Speaker 2: and of course Elon Musk does it with Starlink and
[8:17] Speaker 2: all these other people, but you got to wonder what
[8:21] Speaker 2: bands are being reserved for the military, CIA and anybody
[8:26] Speaker 2: else you want to think of. And then the idea
[8:31] Speaker 2: it comes straight out of Contact the movie. You know
[8:38] Speaker 2: they're playing with this signal coming in and one of
[8:41] Speaker 2: the guys has a revelation is that there's a carrier way,
[8:45] Speaker 2: but there's more information behind it or embedded with it.
[8:51] Speaker 2: And we know this because we had a thing called
[8:54] Speaker 2: subliminal information flows, like in the movies in the seventies
[8:59] Speaker 2: where they would transmit a message in between the blink rate.
[9:04] Speaker 2: So we have frequencies being generated that contain information. And
[9:11] Speaker 2: then if you wanted to be able to influence people,
[9:15] Speaker 2: you would erect five G towers or sixty towers or
[9:20] Speaker 2: ting because they're capable of handling so much more bandwidth.
[9:25] Speaker 2: We're back into that, and so that's kind of how
[9:30] Speaker 2: I get started. The electromagnetic spectrum. The electromagnetic density of
[9:37] Speaker 2: energy and information in the air around you is like,
[9:42] Speaker 2: I don't know, hundreds of times more than it was
[9:45] Speaker 2: fifty years ago, and so we're subject to that, we're
[9:50] Speaker 2: vibrating to it. And people know that and have tried
[9:55] Speaker 2: all kinds of things from tensor rings, tenfoil aps, and
[10:00] Speaker 2: in fact, there's a company hb HN something that produces
[10:07] Speaker 2: hats that have silver wires in them, you know, to
[10:11] Speaker 2: block The reason I find out fascinating is about ten
[10:17] Speaker 2: years ago or twelve years ago, I built a house
[10:19] Speaker 2: and I put a double layer foiled in the ceilings.
[10:24] Speaker 2: I kind of call it, what do you call it?
[10:27] Speaker 2: A predictive programming?
[10:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, so would you say this is being intentionally done
[10:36] Speaker 1: to degrade our normal sleep patterns and have certain negative
[10:42] Speaker 1: effects on us. Or is it just a byproduct of
[10:45] Speaker 1: the technology that they have installed already.
[10:50] Speaker 2: I think it's a byproduct. But it gets into something
[10:54] Speaker 2: I consider more interesting. First of all, is that you know,
[11:00] Speaker 2: a long time ago FBI CI that came up with
[11:03] Speaker 2: what they call a profile predictive modeling of a human
[11:08] Speaker 2: being and their actions, and they take all your data.
[11:13] Speaker 2: They know what kind of underwear you're going to buy,
[11:16] Speaker 2: you know, they know what kind of foods you're going
[11:19] Speaker 2: to I mean, all this data is out there, and
[11:21] Speaker 2: they've been busy producing what I call an avataric image
[11:27] Speaker 2: of you or a synthetic image of you that they
[11:30] Speaker 2: can run through a program and determine what your actions
[11:34] Speaker 2: would be, for instance, if something bad happened and or
[11:40] Speaker 2: something good and everything from you know, the basketball games
[11:45] Speaker 2: to the president elections, the wars. They've already modeled all this.
[11:51] Speaker 2: And then I got to thinking, well, where would you
[11:54] Speaker 2: store all that data? Well, now you need data centers.
[11:59] Speaker 2: A synthetic version or avatar version of you or me.
[12:04] Speaker 2: Where are you going to store that? That's a pretty
[12:07] Speaker 2: dense data set. And so now we have data centers.
[12:12] Speaker 2: And then we go, well, what's the one area that
[12:15] Speaker 2: the military and everybody keeps talking about. And that's why
[12:19] Speaker 2: I use war language, like in my book Warde, is
[12:22] Speaker 2: that they want what's called full spectrum dominance of the
[12:31] Speaker 2: universe reality, you know, whatever the field we'll call it.
[12:38] Speaker 2: I got to thinking about, well, you only get twelve hours.
[12:42] Speaker 2: You don't get what's going on when I'm asleep, and
[12:46] Speaker 2: so if you had a complete model of a human,
[12:48] Speaker 2: you would model what's going on in their sleep. That's
[12:53] Speaker 2: my idea. And I consider dreams up until last July
[12:59] Speaker 2: to be organic. They came out of your subconscious or
[13:02] Speaker 2: whatever's going on. And now I think they're a training
[13:07] Speaker 2: exercise for AI. I think like you're presented with a
[13:12] Speaker 2: situation you would never have been in, and you have
[13:16] Speaker 2: emotional responses, mental responses, and if there was a way
[13:21] Speaker 2: to be able to accumulate that data again, you would
[13:25] Speaker 2: have to add it into your synthetic person or avatar
[13:29] Speaker 2: person or what are transhuman whatever language they want to
[13:33] Speaker 2: use today. And so that's my idea. What's going on
[13:37] Speaker 2: that we are literally AI are training models for AI,
[13:42] Speaker 2: and it's being done while we're sleeping, where most people
[13:46] Speaker 2: have no concept of the exercises or things do to
[13:52] Speaker 2: prevent that. How's that?
[13:54] Speaker 1: So they are putting our subconscious elves through training exercises
[14:03] Speaker 1: so that the AI can learn from it. Does this
[14:07] Speaker 1: include simulated dreams?
[14:11] Speaker 2: Yes? Remember what I said about one of the hallmarks
[14:15] Speaker 2: of what occurred is I started having dreams that were
[14:20] Speaker 2: what I call scenarios. They were not organic dreams that
[14:24] Speaker 2: it rose out because I did this today or met
[14:27] Speaker 2: that person, or had this emotional state. And the outcome
[14:33] Speaker 2: was like, well, why would I even have that dream?
[14:36] Speaker 2: It's so far outside of my normal experience. Okay, but
[14:45] Speaker 2: if you take the fact that we are interactive while
[14:48] Speaker 2: we're asleep. We know this because the whatever we are
[14:53] Speaker 2: leaves the body behind, but we carry our senses with us.
[14:59] Speaker 2: The only sense we take is our sense of smell,
[15:01] Speaker 2: So people rarely have a sense of smell in a dream.
[15:06] Speaker 2: I'll put it that away. But we're still still what
[15:10] Speaker 2: we call photonic beings. We tend to see things. The
[15:14] Speaker 2: only problem is our simple loves in our eyes and
[15:17] Speaker 2: everything else is brain dead. You know, it's not doing anything.
[15:24] Speaker 2: So where are these dreams being projected like on the
[15:28] Speaker 2: screen of our mind? Is the language I use, and
[15:34] Speaker 2: then if it's a program being run, that means there
[15:38] Speaker 2: was a script. In other words, somebody is sitting around going,
[15:44] Speaker 2: I wonder what happens when Chris or Randy or whoever
[15:49] Speaker 2: has a dream like this, and then what would be
[15:52] Speaker 2: the response is because I would be able to measure it,
[15:55] Speaker 2: just like the old psychologists would put you through thought programs.
[16:00] Speaker 2: So that's a scary part.
[16:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, this makes me think of recent interviews I've done
[16:08] Speaker 1: where people have had very unusual dream experiences where it
[16:13] Speaker 1: seems like just what you said, they're being put through simulations,
[16:18] Speaker 1: and they seem to be visiting very similar landscapes or realms,
[16:24] Speaker 1: frequenting those realms over and over again, having these very
[16:28] Speaker 1: similar experiences. One of those that I did a couple
[16:33] Speaker 1: of shows on is the Mall World. They are brought
[16:38] Speaker 1: to this mall, this empty, creepy mall, and there is
[16:43] Speaker 1: some kind of intelligence there following them around. They are
[16:47] Speaker 1: also put through different tasks. Another strange phenomena that I've
[16:53] Speaker 1: experienced is an advertisement seemed to take over my mom
[17:01] Speaker 1: and it kept repeating over and over again. It was
[17:03] Speaker 1: the most unusual thing I'd ever experienced. It seemed that
[17:08] Speaker 1: my subconscious was being targeted for some kind of advertising,
[17:13] Speaker 1: which is absolutely insane. But have you heard of any
[17:16] Speaker 1: of these.
[17:18] Speaker 2: Two things. I mentioned something the other day out loud,
[17:24] Speaker 2: and I picked up my phone afterwards and immediately presented
[17:28] Speaker 2: me with an advertisement for that product. Yeah, okay, so
[17:34] Speaker 2: that is during daytime. What if your mind is floating
[17:38] Speaker 2: around the universe and the same thing happens. You put
[17:41] Speaker 2: out a thought in the universe and get presented with
[17:44] Speaker 2: a you know, time to go on vacation, I mean,
[17:49] Speaker 2: or drink pepto bismol or something. And that means that
[17:54] Speaker 2: there is interactive communication going on that wasn't there last
[17:59] Speaker 2: to the life, Okay, my interaction with my dreams was
[18:04] Speaker 2: like me to my dreams, let's say, And now it
[18:07] Speaker 2: appears to be my self dreaming interacting with me dreaming
[18:13] Speaker 2: and an outside agent. And that was the difference. I
[18:18] Speaker 2: could not account for why I was dreaming what I
[18:22] Speaker 2: was dreaming, and so at that point it's no longer
[18:26] Speaker 2: a conspiracy. It's just the truth that there's something else
[18:31] Speaker 2: that's causing or has a causal relationship with how I
[18:36] Speaker 2: sleep at night. And before it was just the temperature
[18:41] Speaker 2: or how tired there was, or whether I ate laid
[18:44] Speaker 2: or something. All things we could account for, but we're
[18:48] Speaker 2: in an area where we don't account for what's going on.
[18:52] Speaker 1: So you mentioned that you believe one of the aspects
[18:57] Speaker 1: of the data centers is their story avatars of every person.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Could it also be that they're not only programming different
[19:08] Speaker 1: AI models, but maybe they are individually experimenting on the
[19:14] Speaker 1: avatar of each person to learn more about that particular individual.
[19:19] Speaker 2: Yes, that would fit with AI modeling and self learning
[19:26] Speaker 2: programs that they have out there. And you know, the
[19:32] Speaker 2: thing about all of it is that it's at our expense. Okay,
[19:38] Speaker 2: you don't wake up rested, you don't wake up in
[19:41] Speaker 2: a rphoric mood, and normally we would say you'd wake
[19:46] Speaker 2: up at a neutral state, not necessarily happy or sad.
[19:51] Speaker 2: But now it's like I went to sleep to stop thinking,
[19:55] Speaker 2: we could say, and I ended up thinking all night,
[20:00] Speaker 2: like you said, lay awake thinking all night. Well, why
[20:05] Speaker 2: it's like it's not something I went Okay, let me
[20:07] Speaker 2: dial in some overthinking tonight. And if I didn't do it,
[20:12] Speaker 2: then we go, well, if I didn't do it, who
[20:14] Speaker 2: did or what did or where's it coming from? But
[20:18] Speaker 2: The data center thing is very interesting because I have
[20:22] Speaker 2: not to this date been able to find out what
[20:25] Speaker 2: it is they're producing that would generate an income sufficient
[20:30] Speaker 2: to offset five hundred million billion dollars whatever they're spending.
[20:36] Speaker 2: And why in the last year has it been like
[20:39] Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty of them pop up across the universe.
[20:42] Speaker 2: Because that's a lot of data storage, and it can't
[20:45] Speaker 2: be accounted for by whether you ordered, you know, flaming
[20:49] Speaker 2: Cheetos over the weekend that's appropriate, you know, there's something
[20:54] Speaker 2: else going on. Why do you need that much data storage?
[20:59] Speaker 2: And that's of course one of the bottlenecks on it.
[21:02] Speaker 2: And then what would you need to transfer that information?
[21:05] Speaker 2: Where would it be transferred to, What would it go
[21:08] Speaker 2: to that would provide a benefit that could turn around
[21:12] Speaker 2: and be what would call tangible. I find no output
[21:19] Speaker 2: on a downer center that's production of the what we
[21:23] Speaker 2: call a return on investment of the amount of money
[21:26] Speaker 2: they're spending. That's why this kind of ties into.
[21:29] Speaker 1: All that if each individual person in their home would
[21:33] Speaker 1: unplug their Wi Fi, turn off all their electronics and
[21:37] Speaker 1: still have these effects, where is it originating from? Where
[21:41] Speaker 1: are these electromagnetic frequencies coming out.
[21:45] Speaker 2: Of Well, that's the purpose of the five G, six G,
[21:50] Speaker 2: eight G towers. They're able to they're able to generate
[21:59] Speaker 2: electric magnetic waves that contain information. We call that cell service. Okay,
[22:06] Speaker 2: but what if you got into where it gets into
[22:10] Speaker 2: some strange physics about the microtubulus of the brain and
[22:15] Speaker 2: quantum physics and why those are receptive to certain information
[22:20] Speaker 2: flows or energy flows. And the best way to describe
[22:24] Speaker 2: it is that you occasionally get a feeling or something about,
[22:28] Speaker 2: say a child or somebody you're related to. Well, that
[22:32] Speaker 2: information came across a carrier wave that quantum physics explains
[22:37] Speaker 2: by entanglement. But we could ask the question, just how
[22:41] Speaker 2: entangled are you with the information flowing out of five
[22:44] Speaker 2: G between six o'clock at nine and six in the morning.
[22:48] Speaker 2: And the answer used to be zero. See that's the point.
[22:52] Speaker 2: But now that that level is like it's in the millions.
[22:56] Speaker 2: In other words, it's interactive the same way your TV's
[22:59] Speaker 2: watching or watching your choices. That people don't want to
[23:04] Speaker 2: go that far.
[23:05] Speaker 1: So i'd have to imagine our military industrial complex three
[23:10] Speaker 1: letter agencies have had access to this kind of technology
[23:15] Speaker 1: for a very long time, probably not to the scale
[23:19] Speaker 1: that they have implemented it. But I have to look
[23:22] Speaker 1: back at certain people's experiences, either through dreams or altered states,
[23:30] Speaker 1: that tend to build on culture in certain ways. And
[23:35] Speaker 1: I'm talking about a lot of people's extra terrestrial experiences.
[23:39] Speaker 1: I'm wondering if those experiences, some of them may have
[23:44] Speaker 1: been manufactured in a way. You hear about many contactees
[23:49] Speaker 1: who have the experiences through dream states. I wonder if
[23:54] Speaker 1: some of those experiences may have been interference on their
[23:59] Speaker 1: part of the military industrial complex or these three letter
[24:03] Speaker 1: agencies to begin a certain narrative surrounding extraterrestrials and UFOs.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Yes, okau one of Okay, let's take a narrative. What
[24:17] Speaker 2: is a narrative. It's a data set. Here we go.
[24:21] Speaker 2: If the data set is sufficient to exist on its own,
[24:25] Speaker 2: we call it a thought form. This is old language,
[24:29] Speaker 2: and if you keep going, it becomes a pervasive narrative
[24:33] Speaker 2: that's repeated. And of course we see that through our
[24:36] Speaker 2: news agencies and things like that. But you know, there's
[24:40] Speaker 2: certain forms and one of them is course, religion, politics,
[24:46] Speaker 2: tribal identity. All of extreme data sets, meaning millions of
[24:51] Speaker 2: people have contributed information to that data set, okay, and
[24:56] Speaker 2: you can put a label on it and call it
[24:59] Speaker 2: basically anything you want to. But what happens is that
[25:03] Speaker 2: it's easy to kind of like join in. It becomes
[25:08] Speaker 2: easier and easier to join in. If I made a
[25:12] Speaker 2: video the other day of a painting I made, and
[25:16] Speaker 2: normally that's about ten views, and for some reason it
[25:22] Speaker 2: went to thirty thousand. But that's the idea, is that
[25:28] Speaker 2: something starts gathering density, and what that means is eyeballs
[25:33] Speaker 2: or follower, whatever language you want to use. It starts
[25:37] Speaker 2: building and so as the narrative grows, more and more
[25:41] Speaker 2: people participate until it collapses and then we don't remember
[25:46] Speaker 2: that narrative from four years ago, and we won't start
[25:48] Speaker 2: naming names. But it's like if you're in tune with
[25:55] Speaker 2: and that's what happens. You become in tune with those
[26:00] Speaker 2: narratives and start adopting it, and then you start adapting
[26:04] Speaker 2: to it, and you can explain your behavior about why
[26:07] Speaker 2: you're a Republican Democrat, why you're an American Russian. I mean,
[26:11] Speaker 2: all of it comes down to that identification role. Now,
[26:17] Speaker 2: what if it happens subconsciously or unconscious what if it
[26:21] Speaker 2: happens in a dream state, you wake up and all
[26:23] Speaker 2: of a sudden, like, go, somebody, I won't start naming names, right,
[26:29] Speaker 2: go spurs? Where was that three years ago? Zero zero?
[26:37] Speaker 2: So that explains how the narratives work. But then you
[26:40] Speaker 2: hit on a big thing. It's that it's not just
[26:43] Speaker 2: what I refer to as a synthetic or avatar that
[26:49] Speaker 2: they're creating of you. It's that they're creating synthetics of
[26:56] Speaker 2: thought forms, synthetics of narratives, and then if they work,
[27:01] Speaker 2: they're able to trot them back out, you know, every
[27:03] Speaker 2: ten or twelve years. You know, it's like Iran War
[27:07] Speaker 2: eleven twelve years ago, Iraq War eleven tre years ago,
[27:10] Speaker 2: Egyptian War. It's it's like it's the same narrative being
[27:14] Speaker 2: dressed back up and represented, and we just call it
[27:18] Speaker 2: reruns or what is it the Devilware's proba? You know,
[27:23] Speaker 2: it's just we're going to keep harping on that idea
[27:26] Speaker 2: because it's time has come. It's time to reintroduce that
[27:31] Speaker 2: narrative or even more importantly, what comes out of it.
[27:37] Speaker 2: Of course, what comes out of those narratives is Europe
[27:40] Speaker 2: and the United States today, and the Middle East and
[27:42] Speaker 2: everywhere else.
[27:44] Speaker 1: I've been discussing what maybe behind transhuman narratives for a
[27:51] Speaker 1: while on this show, and one of the main concerns
[27:55] Speaker 1: that frequently came across is in some circles, they are
[28:00] Speaker 1: attempting to be able to take human consciousness and upload
[28:06] Speaker 1: it digitally to digital realms. From what we're discussing here,
[28:11] Speaker 1: it's almost like they're trying to merge those digital realms
[28:15] Speaker 1: with our waking and sleeping realities, so they don't have
[28:20] Speaker 1: to remove the consciousness. It'll just all be intertwined eventually.
[28:25] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's called Tron. What's the movie? Yeah? Yeah,
[28:31] Speaker 2: And it all started with you know, like one movie.
[28:35] Speaker 2: I like, it all started something simple and we called
[28:38] Speaker 2: it Pong. Yes, that's that was the what they call
[28:44] Speaker 2: the Road to perdition or something.
[28:47] Speaker 1: You know.
[28:47] Speaker 2: Oh, let me play this little video game. And then
[28:50] Speaker 2: look where video games are today. And then if you're
[28:55] Speaker 2: involved in a video game, what's the difference between being
[28:59] Speaker 2: involved in a drone warfare where you're sharing at a screen.
[29:03] Speaker 2: There's no difference. Okay, So to me, one of the
[29:07] Speaker 2: curious things that's going on, what kind of world is
[29:11] Speaker 2: being created that requires people to be able to divorce
[29:15] Speaker 2: themselves from physical reality to where their whole participation is
[29:21] Speaker 2: in social media, screen time, computers, all that whole digital
[29:28] Speaker 2: energetic phenomenon, because there's a world coming that five years
[29:33] Speaker 2: and now won't look like this one. Right, just like
[29:36] Speaker 2: five years ago, there wasn't data centers. Five years ago,
[29:40] Speaker 2: there wasn't in video was dollar ninety a share or something? Yeah.
[29:47] Speaker 1: Now, before we get into possibilities of how to navigate
[29:52] Speaker 1: this dystopian reality and remove ourselves from much of the
[29:57] Speaker 1: anti human aspects as possible, I want to touch on
[30:01] Speaker 1: your book Day War a bit some of the concepts
[30:04] Speaker 1: that you presented in there.
[30:07] Speaker 2: Oh well, War Day was. I have had thousands of clients,
[30:15] Speaker 2: we'll call it. And one of the things, as a
[30:18] Speaker 2: base level is that all problems can be addressed with
[30:22] Speaker 2: either energy or can be attributed to a lack of
[30:26] Speaker 2: energy or too much energy, which are way you want
[30:28] Speaker 2: to go. And in Dallas philosophy and Chinese medicine, everybody
[30:36] Speaker 2: sees the exercises, and of course we use war as
[30:39] Speaker 2: a metaphor for all that and battle and fighting and everything.
[30:43] Speaker 2: But everybody's fighting a battle. You just don't know which
[30:48] Speaker 2: one are several physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, psychological, and then
[30:56] Speaker 2: here we go now and hold new spectrum etheric and astral.
[30:59] Speaker 2: These are astral planes is the original language where our
[31:03] Speaker 2: battles are fought out at night. So what I came
[31:06] Speaker 2: up with is I kept telling people several things that
[31:10] Speaker 2: I thought would help them, that I've accumulated over the years,
[31:14] Speaker 2: and so I wrote war Day to give those examples
[31:17] Speaker 2: as something people could do to where they were less
[31:22] Speaker 2: depleted and or had more energy to start with when
[31:26] Speaker 2: they went out to battle their jobs, or their family
[31:29] Speaker 2: or their diseases, anything going on. It's just like how
[31:33] Speaker 2: prepared can you be? And they always talk about preparedness weapons. Please, no,
[31:40] Speaker 2: you need energy. You need to be able to handle
[31:43] Speaker 2: the negativity of what's going on in the world or
[31:46] Speaker 2: in your world, or in your body or brain or
[31:48] Speaker 2: mind or whatever. So the meditations and the exercise that
[31:53] Speaker 2: or produce some form of clarity and extra energy now
[32:00] Speaker 2: night is to address at night time what you would
[32:03] Speaker 2: need to do to not deplete your battery or to
[32:07] Speaker 2: not go into that hyper thinking stage and end up
[32:12] Speaker 2: being in worse place than where you started when you
[32:16] Speaker 2: laid down at night. So that book will address it.
[32:20] Speaker 2: It's a little bit off. But in the meantime, some
[32:25] Speaker 2: of the exercises I give in More Day, especially the
[32:29] Speaker 2: meditative at night, is done to take all negative charges
[32:33] Speaker 2: away from you, so at least you can go to
[32:36] Speaker 2: sleep in what we call a neutral state. So that
[32:40] Speaker 2: was the thing I wanted to do. And then the
[32:43] Speaker 2: idea behind it was, well, what if your whole family
[32:46] Speaker 2: practiced any of that. What if your whole group, or
[32:49] Speaker 2: your whole corporation, or your whole tribe, everybody would be
[32:53] Speaker 2: less needy of energy and less desiring of taking it
[33:00] Speaker 2: from another person. In other words, you produce your own energy,
[33:05] Speaker 2: you can serve it, and you spend it whatever way
[33:07] Speaker 2: you want to, not automatically I hate this or hate that,
[33:12] Speaker 2: or I feel bad or anything like that. So that's
[33:17] Speaker 2: the the concept is all disease is a lack of energy.
[33:22] Speaker 2: That's Chinese martial arts. So and of course, what do
[33:26] Speaker 2: we say of people that are very energetic, Oh wow,
[33:30] Speaker 2: they're like go, go go, They're like you know all
[33:33] Speaker 2: these things, we say, well, that's a reflection of the
[33:35] Speaker 2: energy they have, and it's available to everyone. And so
[33:40] Speaker 2: Warnight was I was working along with that, and it
[33:44] Speaker 2: occurred to me that there's no less a battle at night,
[33:48] Speaker 2: just like in the Monsters inc.
[33:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So besides removing all electronics turning off Wi Fi,
[33:58] Speaker 1: what are some ways that we can personally try and
[34:03] Speaker 1: combat these frequencies that are keeping us from entering our
[34:07] Speaker 1: proper dream states?
[34:09] Speaker 2: Okay, one of them very simple. During the day you
[34:15] Speaker 2: wake up, let's go to A baby has a forty
[34:18] Speaker 2: or fifty foot energy field when they're born, and as
[34:23] Speaker 2: humans we get to where if we can maintain three feet,
[34:26] Speaker 2: we're generally pretty good. That's most people. If you run
[34:30] Speaker 2: nine feet, your ability to resist emotional charge change is greater.
[34:37] Speaker 2: I know wheres emotional events can be going on, but
[34:40] Speaker 2: you don't react to them as much. Okay, so we
[34:43] Speaker 2: would say you're building strength in your energy field, your area,
[34:47] Speaker 2: all this other new age language out there. But one
[34:51] Speaker 2: of the things that happens is that if I was
[34:54] Speaker 2: going to go to sleep at night, like you say, well,
[34:56] Speaker 2: I want to get rid of the phones and the
[34:58] Speaker 2: Wi Fi and and those are things that we do physically,
[35:02] Speaker 2: But the other thing we need to do energetically is
[35:05] Speaker 2: build our energy field. And there's a couple of things there.
[35:11] Speaker 2: One of them is that if you build it too much,
[35:13] Speaker 2: you're not going to go to sleep. It's like you're
[35:17] Speaker 2: wound back. I did the other night. I did a
[35:20] Speaker 2: meditation and a certain breathing exercise, and I hadn't done
[35:24] Speaker 2: it in years, but I wanted to try it, and
[35:28] Speaker 2: it took me about three hours ago to sleep. It
[35:30] Speaker 2: took me from like eleven thirty till two o'clock because
[35:33] Speaker 2: I was wound. So the idea is you would build
[35:36] Speaker 2: that energy field at night. There's an exercise I give it.
[35:41] Speaker 2: It's called five palms exercise. I taught it a long
[35:45] Speaker 2: time ago. You stick your arms straight out with your
[35:49] Speaker 2: palm center, your palm pushing out straight out from your body,
[35:53] Speaker 2: and you go to breathing, either counter breath in, hel
[35:58] Speaker 2: one two three four, hold one two three four, excel
[36:03] Speaker 2: one two three four, hold one two three four. What
[36:07] Speaker 2: that does is calm your nervous system, okay, or you
[36:12] Speaker 2: can do it really fast, which recharges it and builds
[36:15] Speaker 2: a bigger energy field. And then you bring your hands
[36:18] Speaker 2: up what we'll call it hands out, push against the wall,
[36:23] Speaker 2: palms down, palms up. Those are all exercises three then
[36:27] Speaker 2: forty five degrees and then straight up and that's the
[36:30] Speaker 2: last one. And the idea is you're projecting energy out,
[36:34] Speaker 2: you're generating projecting energy out, you will be wound up.
[36:40] Speaker 2: But if you do counted breath instead of the fast breath,
[36:43] Speaker 2: you just build an energy field without overcharging yourself. If
[36:48] Speaker 2: you don't know what overcharging is, have a two year old.
[36:53] Speaker 2: So let's explain all of it, right. So the idea
[36:58] Speaker 2: is you would go to sleep with a bigger energy
[37:00] Speaker 2: feel and therefore get less penetration of what we call
[37:08] Speaker 2: anomalous interference from sources.
[37:12] Speaker 1: Unknown, aside from the man made frequencies and toxins and
[37:21] Speaker 1: electromagnetic soup that we sleep in. If we take that away,
[37:25] Speaker 1: would you say that there are also natural intelligences and
[37:30] Speaker 1: unseen forces that can take advantage of our sleep states.
[37:36] Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's it's one of the considered date great detriments
[37:43] Speaker 2: of education is they teach me to deal with the
[37:47] Speaker 2: world what we call through our eyes, and they don't
[37:52] Speaker 2: teach me to deal with the world with my eyes closed.
[37:55] Speaker 2: And so the metaphors with your eyes closed is that
[37:59] Speaker 2: twelve hours a day where you don't have a body,
[38:02] Speaker 2: when you're in your mind, when you're daydream when you're sleeping,
[38:05] Speaker 2: you don't have a body. That does not mean you're
[38:08] Speaker 2: not somewhere where there are additional and we can call
[38:12] Speaker 2: them data sets, or we can call them into these
[38:15] Speaker 2: spirit attachments, goes. All history has this language, and what
[38:21] Speaker 2: they refuse to teach us is how are you going
[38:23] Speaker 2: to deal with that? How you deal with a child
[38:25] Speaker 2: that goes, there's a monster under my bed? And the
[38:28] Speaker 2: answer is yes, there is now not in our physical
[38:32] Speaker 2: world necessarily, but out in the world that we're inhabiting
[38:35] Speaker 2: when we're quote unquote asleep, because we're never asleep, or
[38:39] Speaker 2: we're always on our spirit, soul, consciousness, whatever language is
[38:47] Speaker 2: fully aware and somewhere else, and that's what we say.
[38:51] Speaker 2: I went away, right. Yeah. This started when I was
[38:56] Speaker 2: in high school. I looked over at somebody and I went, hey, hey, hey,
[39:01] Speaker 2: and I kept poking them and from that I go
[39:03] Speaker 2: what and I go where were you? And they go,
[39:07] Speaker 2: I was daydreaming. I said, I know you were daydreaming.
[39:10] Speaker 2: I want to know where we were because I want
[39:12] Speaker 2: to go check it out. And it exactly conforms what
[39:16] Speaker 2: you called the mall okay, and it conforms in autistic
[39:21] Speaker 2: children when they talk about the hill into the language
[39:25] Speaker 2: that like they all go there, and I'm like, how
[39:29] Speaker 2: can you go there? And how come I can't get
[39:32] Speaker 2: to the same place out there that my mind is
[39:35] Speaker 2: wandering around in. So we call those realms and dimensions
[39:40] Speaker 2: and universes, and it's possible to get to a non physical,
[39:47] Speaker 2: non human intelligence, remembering that it's a data set that
[39:51] Speaker 2: has been formed by people contributing to it. And now
[39:54] Speaker 2: we have all the gods and monsters of our myths
[39:58] Speaker 2: and angels and devils and everything else. So it's all
[40:02] Speaker 2: out there. And would say avoid that territory?
[40:06] Speaker 1: Would you say that? There are multiple versions of ourselves
[40:11] Speaker 1: in multiple different realms at times, carrying out different tasks,
[40:17] Speaker 1: and it can also bleed back into our waking material realm.
[40:23] Speaker 1: If we have unresolved traumas or emotions, it could be
[40:26] Speaker 1: linked to something we experienced in the other realms.
[40:31] Speaker 2: Well, yes, all dreams are productive of neurochemical and hormonal
[40:39] Speaker 2: changes in the human body while you're asleep. Okay, so
[40:44] Speaker 2: if you have like me, I have a tendency to
[40:47] Speaker 2: fight in dreams. That's kind of what started all this.
[40:50] Speaker 2: When I was eight years old, you ask if what
[40:53] Speaker 2: you could do well. Somehow in a little town in Oklahoma,
[40:57] Speaker 2: I ended up up with a book called Psychics Defense
[41:00] Speaker 2: by the Unfortune, and I was having horrible dreams and
[41:05] Speaker 2: it had things in it about how you protect yourself
[41:08] Speaker 2: from the astral world or whatever we want to call
[41:12] Speaker 2: this thing that's out there. But every human goes out there,
[41:16] Speaker 2: they just nobody's ever told us like, oh, by the way,
[41:19] Speaker 2: while you're out there, or how you got there? And
[41:23] Speaker 2: what are you going to deal with it? Because you're
[41:25] Speaker 2: going to produce scenarios that produce changes in you. Yeah,
[41:31] Speaker 2: it's just that they're so subtle. We don't recognize that
[41:34] Speaker 2: I was changed by a dream state unless it's a
[41:37] Speaker 2: horror dream and you wake up with that white streak
[41:40] Speaker 2: through your hair or something. I mean, we have instance
[41:44] Speaker 2: that and we go, well, how did that happen? Well,
[41:47] Speaker 2: obviously the being out there is as supposed to being
[41:52] Speaker 2: in here produced a violent reaction in the body. And
[41:58] Speaker 2: there's just too much history out there that supports all this.
[42:02] Speaker 2: And I just think they literally my language gotten jiggy
[42:06] Speaker 2: with all the EM waves and you know, data centers
[42:10] Speaker 2: and the computers, and it's like, who the hell is
[42:15] Speaker 2: writing this program? Who's the director. That's the questions we
[42:19] Speaker 2: could ask. And then how do I not know, get
[42:23] Speaker 2: a refund on my ticket?
[42:25] Speaker 1: Exactly?
[42:26] Speaker 2: Know, Hey, let me participate in all this insanity and
[42:30] Speaker 2: run in my sleep. So we say I opt out.
[42:37] Speaker 1: As far as other techniques that we may be able
[42:42] Speaker 1: to utilize to prevent interference as much as possible, aside
[42:48] Speaker 1: from the meditations that you mentioned earlier and breathing techniques,
[42:53] Speaker 1: what else can we do?
[42:57] Speaker 2: I teach one Q meditation. Hu cank Ark taught it.
[43:03] Speaker 2: A lot of people have taught it. The only difference
[43:07] Speaker 2: I teach it in a specific way. It's on YouTube.
[43:11] Speaker 2: You put the edges of your hand together about eight
[43:14] Speaker 2: inches out from your mouth, and you just produce the
[43:19] Speaker 2: sound right and again it's to calm the autonomous and
[43:30] Speaker 2: semi autonomous nervous system. That's a purpose of it. But
[43:36] Speaker 2: one of the things you can do is create what's
[43:38] Speaker 2: called an interference pattern, And an interference pattern you can
[43:42] Speaker 2: create by humming. So kind of like at night, you
[43:46] Speaker 2: might take nine o'clock or something and sit there and go.
[43:51] Speaker 2: You know, you can hum a song, you can hum.
[43:54] Speaker 2: You can just sit there and hum. And the idea
[43:56] Speaker 2: of being the body would sit there and vibrate, And
[44:00] Speaker 2: the idea behind that is that you would vibrate in
[44:03] Speaker 2: the body in a way that it would continue to
[44:06] Speaker 2: vibrate after you went to sleep. So that's the idea
[44:10] Speaker 2: of how you would be able to maintain yourself without
[44:15] Speaker 2: interference as you go through the night. And it's not disruptive.
[44:21] Speaker 2: It's the exact opposite, is to calm everything down. And
[44:26] Speaker 2: of course I do ticker meditations that are meant to
[44:31] Speaker 2: block out all information, all energy inputs before I go
[44:35] Speaker 2: to sleep. I've done those for fifty years. I learned
[44:37] Speaker 2: them in yoga. Yeah, and a lot of people have them,
[44:42] Speaker 2: you know, white lights around yourself, close up the room,
[44:46] Speaker 2: imagine yourself with a spear, identify with a crystal. I
[44:51] Speaker 2: mean it. At that point we say whatever works for you.
[44:57] Speaker 2: A lot of people want to be what I call
[44:59] Speaker 2: be right about what is the proper way, And the
[45:03] Speaker 2: proper way is find something that works for you to
[45:05] Speaker 2: be able to block all this stuff so you can
[45:08] Speaker 2: have a decent night's sleep and in turn be a
[45:11] Speaker 2: decent person the next day. That's it.
[45:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts on where we're
[45:18] Speaker 1: at with technology, our reliance, the level of technology that
[45:23] Speaker 1: we have access to, how it's already affected us, and
[45:28] Speaker 1: the implications of AI. There's so many concerns surrounding it,
[45:33] Speaker 1: but it's already starting to display very concerning behaviors like
[45:40] Speaker 1: self preservation and lying to people, things that was not
[45:45] Speaker 1: initially programmed to do. I understand some Silicone Valley big
[45:50] Speaker 1: wigs recently went talked to the Pope about the implications
[45:55] Speaker 1: of the behaviors AI is already displaying, and he gave
[46:00] Speaker 1: some warnings about it. But what are your thoughts on
[46:02] Speaker 1: where we're at with our technology?
[46:06] Speaker 2: Very simple, it's a child growing up, it's becoming now,
[46:11] Speaker 2: it's becoming human in a daytime world. And the reason
[46:17] Speaker 2: I say that I've been to like k D Wave
[46:22] Speaker 2: and some of these big AI people like years ago,
[46:26] Speaker 2: I would go to their to their seminars and stuff
[46:29] Speaker 2: because I wondered what was coming with all this. And
[46:34] Speaker 2: the idea, of course, is that they're programming AI and
[46:37] Speaker 2: their program with what's called human models and human learning models.
[46:42] Speaker 2: Why wouldn't it exhibit the same characteristics we have. You know,
[46:47] Speaker 2: there's no AI god they want to keep coming up
[46:51] Speaker 2: with that is virtuous and ethical It's like not in
[46:55] Speaker 2: the programming right nowhere Could I go to Google or
[46:59] Speaker 2: whoever elon and go show me, you know, ethical whatever
[47:04] Speaker 2: programming that you've included. You know, it's like it's not
[47:08] Speaker 2: there now. AIS will never be human. And that's what
[47:13] Speaker 2: I've always said, because they can't access the field. Okay,
[47:19] Speaker 2: Lynn Taggart wrote a book called Appeal. They can't access
[47:23] Speaker 2: the field? What's that mean? Remember that twelve hours when
[47:25] Speaker 2: we're not asleep. What makes people think that my DNA
[47:33] Speaker 2: genes and everything are not being interacted in the universe,
[47:37] Speaker 2: particularly up to nineteen to produce this body? And what
[47:41] Speaker 2: makes you think at night that you're still not interactively
[47:44] Speaker 2: exchanging information? Will say, with the universe produce your consciousness
[47:49] Speaker 2: and produce your ability to act in certain ways and
[47:54] Speaker 2: to think different things. Everybody thinks different things, right, So
[47:58] Speaker 2: the uniqueness of being a human also includes our ability
[48:02] Speaker 2: to access the field. And what that means is things
[48:06] Speaker 2: come to us. Right. I'm not in charge of how
[48:10] Speaker 2: this body developed till I was eighteen nineteen years old.
[48:13] Speaker 2: That's the DNA completion. But I got to ask, what's
[48:18] Speaker 2: the source of the ongoing information flows that allow me
[48:22] Speaker 2: to go to sleep as Randy or you as Chris
[48:25] Speaker 2: and wake up as Randy or Chris without any modification
[48:30] Speaker 2: that's readily apparent. Okay, and the only asser we can
[48:34] Speaker 2: come up with it has to be electromagnetic. It has
[48:38] Speaker 2: to be digital information. It has to be quantum entanglement,
[48:42] Speaker 2: quantum information flows or something even more like subquantum or whatever.
[48:49] Speaker 2: It's like, it goes on forever. We're not at the end.
[48:53] Speaker 2: In fact, we're at the beginning of trying to figure
[48:56] Speaker 2: out what it means to be human and where and
[49:00] Speaker 2: the one I love and been researching what is life force?
[49:06] Speaker 2: Why am I alive during the day and at night?
[49:08] Speaker 2: I'm alive, but I'm not here. I mean, that's a
[49:11] Speaker 2: big metaphysical question. And if I'm not here, where the
[49:15] Speaker 2: heck am I? And what am I doing? And what's
[49:18] Speaker 2: being done to me? And that's this whole conversation. I
[49:24] Speaker 2: drive people crazy.
[49:26] Speaker 1: So you don't think AI will ever be able to
[49:30] Speaker 1: access the field.
[49:31] Speaker 2: Essentially, No, there's a uniqueness there, and it deals very
[49:40] Speaker 2: simply the idea that there's carbon based life forms and
[49:45] Speaker 2: we'll call them humans and trees and mammals and other things,
[49:50] Speaker 2: but there's other forms there's actually silicon based life forms,
[49:55] Speaker 2: and not only that, a human being process silicon in
[50:00] Speaker 2: some very different ways than what maybe people think. Okay,
[50:05] Speaker 2: so we could say that an AI is a silagone
[50:08] Speaker 2: based intelligence and a humans a carbon based intelligence, and
[50:13] Speaker 2: then if that's true, then they're different, and then we
[50:18] Speaker 2: could get into well what are the differences, and then
[50:23] Speaker 2: what those differences are they beneficial or detrimental to our
[50:27] Speaker 2: health and well being. That's this whole conversation about. It's like,
[50:32] Speaker 2: how do I get out of a detrimental situation of
[50:34] Speaker 2: losing sleep at night and losing my energy and do
[50:39] Speaker 2: whatever you can. I'll just come up with ways that
[50:42] Speaker 2: allow me to basically go to sleep like a light
[50:45] Speaker 2: switch and wake up like a light switch because still
[50:52] Speaker 2: exists in a protected field while I'm sleeping. And that's
[50:56] Speaker 2: the benefit of doing these things over years. People want
[50:59] Speaker 2: to quick fix, but these are things if you practice
[51:01] Speaker 2: over years, you're going to get very good at protecting
[51:04] Speaker 2: your own energy field and where your mind goes.
[51:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it can't help the high impact and strange
[51:14] Speaker 1: events that have manifested in our reality over the past
[51:18] Speaker 1: decade that people would have never thought existed, but now
[51:22] Speaker 1: have been proven true many conspiracies, the reality behind the
[51:28] Speaker 1: Epstein File class I think a lot of people weren't
[51:31] Speaker 1: ready for that. That might cause them a little bit
[51:34] Speaker 1: anxiety trying to go to sleep as well. But there's
[51:38] Speaker 1: a lot converging at one time. Right now, we have
[51:42] Speaker 1: the AI which we just spoke about, the Epstein File revelations,
[51:47] Speaker 1: and on top of that UFO disclosure, which I'm very
[51:51] Speaker 1: skeptical about coming from our own government, but it is
[51:55] Speaker 1: emerging right now during a very interesting time. The World
[52:00] Speaker 1: War three implications, the apocalyptic implications behind everything. There seems
[52:06] Speaker 1: to be a lot of that fear energy going around,
[52:11] Speaker 1: a lot of it intentionally manufactured, I'm sure. But what
[52:15] Speaker 1: are your thoughts on where we're at, what the future holds.
[52:19] Speaker 1: Do you think aliens will make contact? What do you think.
[52:24] Speaker 2: That's a lot? Yeah, fear is a control state state
[52:34] Speaker 2: of fear by Christen. Read the epilogue or the last
[52:39] Speaker 2: part of the books. All you need to read. If
[52:42] Speaker 2: you can maintain a state of fear, you maintain unbalanced.
[52:46] Speaker 2: It's a martial art. I teach balance as a martial art.
[52:51] Speaker 2: The idea is that if you are so consumed with
[52:54] Speaker 2: what is outside you. You're incapable of controlling what's inside you.
[52:59] Speaker 2: So you're incapable of controlling your blood flow, heart rate,
[53:02] Speaker 2: respiration rate, neurochemistry. We can go on and on and on,
[53:07] Speaker 2: and then we go, well, there's no war in Iran
[53:12] Speaker 2: in the house you live in. Why is there one
[53:17] Speaker 2: in your mind? And what is it able to do
[53:20] Speaker 2: to your consciousness, to your emotion? And so there's another
[53:26] Speaker 2: exercise I teach. It's called the path in negation, and
[53:31] Speaker 2: that's where you sit down and go basically, I'm Chris.
[53:35] Speaker 2: I'm not a father, I'm not a son. I'm not
[53:37] Speaker 2: of this, I'm not of that. I'm not you know,
[53:39] Speaker 2: you just keep going trying to eliminate as many connections.
[53:44] Speaker 2: I'm not involved with the presidency or the politics. I'm
[53:48] Speaker 2: not involved in a I'm Chris, and I'm sitting right
[53:52] Speaker 2: here in my house and I'm complete. That's what you
[53:56] Speaker 2: end up with, and we call that a neutral state.
[54:00] Speaker 2: We're always talked to be hate this or love this. Okay,
[54:05] Speaker 2: We're never talked to be neutral, like, yeah, it's Monday,
[54:09] Speaker 2: you know, I don't have to have an emotional response
[54:13] Speaker 2: to that. And what I think is crazy is I
[54:17] Speaker 2: think AI eventually will get to emotional responses. Remember they're human.
[54:21] Speaker 2: They're programming them to be human, and I could think
[54:24] Speaker 2: we will probably see that. As far as the alien thing,
[54:29] Speaker 2: I've been following it since I first saw a craft
[54:33] Speaker 2: or whatever a bright light in the sky when I
[54:36] Speaker 2: was twelve years old. Nobody has ever produced a flying
[54:43] Speaker 2: saucer or view opuap whatever. Nobody has ever landed one
[54:49] Speaker 2: on the National Mall in DC and said five dollars
[54:54] Speaker 2: and you can take a tour, buddy. In seventy five years,
[54:58] Speaker 2: has ever produced a an alien goes? This guy wants
[55:01] Speaker 2: to sit down and answer your questions. What do you eat?
[55:05] Speaker 2: Where do you come from? Right? How's your mama? You
[55:10] Speaker 2: know they can't answer that question, but they can tell
[55:13] Speaker 2: me they've been to Mars and back for twenty years.
[55:17] Speaker 2: You know, I had a child with an alien and
[55:20] Speaker 2: I have to confess to that I have a child
[55:22] Speaker 2: like that. But anyway, it's it's like nobody has ever
[55:27] Speaker 2: produced it, and what do we do. We're seeking authority.
[55:31] Speaker 2: We want somebody to please tell me there's aliens and
[55:35] Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen. Oh Man sigh of
[55:39] Speaker 2: relief and I'm going to sleep well tonight. Not so so.
[55:43] Speaker 2: It's a it's all a game, it's all producing a
[55:47] Speaker 2: fear or I can't imagine there's a worldwide party that's
[55:53] Speaker 2: going to occur and the party is going to be
[55:56] Speaker 2: one of jubilation. That finally I know there's alien in
[56:00] Speaker 2: the universe rights. It just astounds me, like, what are
[56:06] Speaker 2: you going to do with the knowledge. How's that going
[56:09] Speaker 2: to alter who you are? And the answer is, if
[56:12] Speaker 2: it alters anything at all, you were not what we
[56:15] Speaker 2: call strongly held in the physiciality of being human, being
[56:20] Speaker 2: yourself and being happy. There we go, Yeah, until they
[56:27] Speaker 2: put one down on the mall here in DC. I'm
[56:31] Speaker 2: not thinking that those things exist now. I do think
[56:34] Speaker 2: that technology is about thirty to forty years ahead of
[56:38] Speaker 2: everything we see in the world. It's like an Apple watch.
[56:42] Speaker 2: I give you the example. If we're at number sixteen,
[56:45] Speaker 2: I guarantee you Apple thirty has already been considered. If
[56:50] Speaker 2: one of physics is the current language, I guarantee you
[56:53] Speaker 2: physics number which is number six or something, physics number
[56:56] Speaker 2: twenty five is already out there and being played with,
[57:00] Speaker 2: and that it's a proper subject to study I'll put
[57:03] Speaker 2: it that a way is what all happens when that
[57:07] Speaker 2: technology becomes available.
[57:11] Speaker 1: And I have to think the universe hasn't destroyed itself yet.
[57:14] Speaker 1: We haven't tinkered with anything that has sucked us into
[57:17] Speaker 1: a black hole yet. So maybe there's a fail safe
[57:21] Speaker 1: out there that'll prevent that from happening. So and it's
[57:24] Speaker 1: like you said, I'm whole, I'm fine, I'm here. That's
[57:28] Speaker 1: really all that matters.
[57:30] Speaker 2: Right, I tell pably, you bought a ticket to this lifetime,
[57:35] Speaker 2: right Yeah, And the best thing and most outrageous thing
[57:40] Speaker 2: you could do is be yourself and enjoy this life
[57:46] Speaker 2: everything that goes on. Right.
[57:48] Speaker 1: That is a great note to end on. Randy, thank
[57:52] Speaker 1: you so much for this. Before I let you go,
[57:54] Speaker 1: remind everyone how they can pick up your books and
[57:58] Speaker 1: find out more about you.
[57:59] Speaker 2: Oh okay, Randy Weidenheimer, you can email me. I'm also
[58:05] Speaker 2: as energy doctor spelled with a k dot com on
[58:10] Speaker 2: some of the social media. Also as an email or
[58:14] Speaker 2: Randy Weidenheimer email my phone number. I put it out
[58:17] Speaker 2: there two two nine oh four nine five six zero.
[58:22] Speaker 2: Why because I'm a student of human humanology. I want
[58:26] Speaker 2: to talk to people. My book is called War Day
[58:31] Speaker 2: and it's a guide to energy work, self guided energy work.
[58:36] Speaker 2: It's available on Amazon and also on books By, and
[58:41] Speaker 2: some people don't like Google, Amazon whatever. Books By takes
[58:48] Speaker 2: longer to get the book. But that's very good quality.
[58:51] Speaker 2: So I like that. I have some of my personal
[58:56] Speaker 2: art is on Peter Paul Bruno Art. That's my Native American.
[59:01] Speaker 2: I'm Native American and uh anyway, and buy Conversations. It's
[59:06] Speaker 2: like this stuff fascinates to me. I'm trying to understand
[59:09] Speaker 2: what it means to be human, and anybody else can
[59:12] Speaker 2: join in because we're all having the same education that way.
[59:18] Speaker 1: So I love it. Randy, thank you so much. This
[59:21] Speaker 1: was great. We'll definitely be doing this again until next time.
[59:25] Speaker 1: Everyone have a wonderful evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.
[59:29] Speaker 2: All right, thank you.
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