# Aliens & Angels Clip: July 19th, 2026 – Ryan Patrick Burns

An episode of [Forbidden Knowledge News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1470192028), 22 Jul 2026, 15 min.

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## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: This is a clip from the Quantum Guide show. You
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[0:11] Speaker 2: Might even be opposing parties within the government where somewhat
[0:16] Speaker 2: disclosure and they're just sick and tired of the whole deception,
[0:20] Speaker 2: and others will do anything to keep it from happening.
[0:25] Speaker 2: What's your take on that, my.
[0:26] Speaker 1: Friend, Absolutely, there are psyop elements that are baked into
[0:35] Speaker 1: all this. There are different, let's call them, schools of thought,
[0:41] Speaker 1: although they're very much integrated into the Pentagon and.
[0:48] Speaker 3: Having just by.
[0:49] Speaker 1: Accident, spent decades in this world, and for those who
[0:53] Speaker 1: are unfamiliar, I was smack dab in the middle of
[0:59] Speaker 1: a black budget Pentagon program when I was in my
[1:04] Speaker 1: early twenties and didn't even know it. And having spoken
[1:10] Speaker 1: with friends and former colleagues that are in the disclosure movement,
[1:16] Speaker 1: Department of Defense, and on the contractor side, it's very
[1:21] Speaker 1: evident that there are varying schools of thought.
[1:25] Speaker 3: As far as disclosure.
[1:27] Speaker 1: And we've seen the files, the briefings, the unresolved cases,
[1:32] Speaker 1: and the reality is that it never gets resolved, at
[1:37] Speaker 1: least in public. And I think that we're going to
[1:43] Speaker 1: see a lot more. It's very intriguing, but there's a
[1:46] Speaker 1: lot at stake on all sides.
[1:50] Speaker 2: Yes, I would totally agree with you. Now, I don't
[1:54] Speaker 2: know if you're a fan of Chris Bloodsoe or not.
[1:57] Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty fond of him and his face family.
[2:01] Speaker 2: And he says that, well, there's been different dates, but
[2:06] Speaker 2: basically twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven, let's just leave
[2:09] Speaker 2: it over the two year span. He says that these beings,
[2:15] Speaker 2: which from his perspective are angelic beings, that they're absolutely
[2:20] Speaker 2: going to make full contact known very very soon. I
[2:24] Speaker 2: trust him. I believe him. He's proven that these, at
[2:29] Speaker 2: least the plasma type orbs are sentient beings at least
[2:35] Speaker 2: in from what I've seen. Of course, there's all the
[2:39] Speaker 2: nuts and bolts type of UFOs we see too. Personally,
[2:44] Speaker 2: I don't know I'm thinking or leaning towards the nuts
[2:48] Speaker 2: and bolts UFOs or UAPs. I don't know. They're kind
[2:53] Speaker 2: of looking like man made. And we do know that
[2:57] Speaker 2: there's been all kinds of technologies that have been for
[3:00] Speaker 2: maybe even more than one hundred years, that have been
[3:04] Speaker 2: kept from us. I mean, just think about this really
[3:07] Speaker 2: on an everyday practical level. Most of us are still
[3:11] Speaker 2: using the same washing machines. Our grandmothers used the same stove.
[3:17] Speaker 2: We're driving the same vehicles basically, you know, the combustion engines.
[3:21] Speaker 2: Well now they have a few electric ones. But you
[3:24] Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's it's it's like we've been
[3:28] Speaker 2: held in stasis for over one hundred years and now
[3:32] Speaker 2: it's cracking at the seams. So I'm I don't know,
[3:38] Speaker 2: like I don't one hundred percent know what to believe anymore,
[3:43] Speaker 2: but I do think that it's come into a head,
[3:47] Speaker 2: all of it, Ryan. I think all of it is
[3:50] Speaker 2: going to hit the fan and going to come out,
[3:53] Speaker 2: and it's not going to be pretty. Those of us
[3:56] Speaker 2: have been doing, you know, research for a number of years,
[3:59] Speaker 2: were a little bit geared into it, a little bit prepared.
[4:03] Speaker 2: Maybe not completely, but there's a lot of people out
[4:07] Speaker 2: there who thought all of that schoolishness, and it's going
[4:09] Speaker 2: to blow them away. What's your take on all of
[4:13] Speaker 2: the disclosure, or even just the et disclosure as you
[4:16] Speaker 2: see it unfolding in the near future.
[4:20] Speaker 1: You know, I think that you're one hundred percent correct.
[4:24] Speaker 1: I think that it is credible. It's urgent. It has
[4:29] Speaker 1: to come out. Certain cultures are more open to it.
[4:32] Speaker 1: It's not as big a deal, but at least here
[4:36] Speaker 1: in North America, I find that there's a process and
[4:42] Speaker 1: then there's process failures and organizations involved in gatekeepers, and
[4:49] Speaker 1: I mean the phenomenon predates modern aviation, and historical files
[4:56] Speaker 1: are still being scrubbed, held back. You have to do
[5:00] Speaker 1: Foyer requests if you want to know anything at all,
[5:03] Speaker 1: and even then it's only what they.
[5:05] Speaker 3: Want you to know.
[5:07] Speaker 1: So I believe that parts of the government don't fully
[5:11] Speaker 1: understand it, and that scares people who think we control
[5:15] Speaker 1: the skies.
[5:16] Speaker 3: And that's a narrative they want us to believe.
[5:20] Speaker 1: The controllers, the authoritative figures, always want us to believe
[5:25] Speaker 1: that they have everything under control.
[5:28] Speaker 3: There's nothing to worry about.
[5:29] Speaker 1: Just keep paying your taxes, go to your nine to five,
[5:33] Speaker 1: live on a scarcity narrative, And the reality is that.
[5:38] Speaker 3: Yeah, these.
[5:40] Speaker 1: These entities and these anomalies, these UAPs are very much real.
[5:47] Speaker 1: They've been around for in my opinion, millennia, and it's
[5:52] Speaker 1: business as usual. It's just the fact that they are
[5:55] Speaker 1: finally at the point where they can't hide it anymore.
[6:00] Speaker 2: Mm hm. Yes, I would agree with you on that.
[6:04] Speaker 2: And there's so many people who have had experiences that
[6:08] Speaker 2: are coming out and out of the closet and are
[6:11] Speaker 2: talking about it. So the way I see it as
[6:14] Speaker 2: the narrative that's very much controlled through fear in the
[6:17] Speaker 2: past and even in the present. And you know, if
[6:21] Speaker 2: you look back a couple of hundred years, what was
[6:23] Speaker 2: it they had in abundance of orphanages and mental institutes.
[6:28] Speaker 2: So if you started talking about you know, beings that
[6:33] Speaker 2: you've seen or things flying in the sky or anything
[6:36] Speaker 2: like that, you get locked up, probably lobotomized, God knows
[6:41] Speaker 2: what would happen to you. And so that fear I
[6:44] Speaker 2: think runs in all of us genetically that and we
[6:49] Speaker 2: all feel weird talking about it. I don't know about you, Ryan,
[6:52] Speaker 2: but I mean there's no way I can go down
[6:54] Speaker 2: to the coffee shop or meet with neighbors and just
[6:57] Speaker 2: start talking about this, even though it's to me something
[7:01] Speaker 2: pretty almost ordinary and you know, kind of widely accepted.
[7:06] Speaker 2: And so there's that, But then there's other ways of
[7:10] Speaker 2: all also looking at the phenomenon. You can look at
[7:13] Speaker 2: it as being a spiritual thing. You can look at
[7:17] Speaker 2: it as being good versus evil. Of course some things.
[7:20] Speaker 2: That's some people think and maybe it is demons and angels.
[7:25] Speaker 2: Just that now we understand it differently, you know. And
[7:30] Speaker 2: you know, I don't know that all ET's are are good.
[7:36] Speaker 2: You know, my experiences were very positive, but there's all
[7:40] Speaker 2: kinds of experiences where these beings have all different shapes
[7:47] Speaker 2: and sizes and textures, and and so many of them
[7:52] Speaker 2: are even what you would consider tricksters, and those have
[7:56] Speaker 2: been known amongst the indigenous populations all over the world
[8:02] Speaker 2: all through time. And but it's nuts, It's it's just nuts.
[8:07] Speaker 2: It's almost like there's too much going on, and it's
[8:11] Speaker 2: like we're all reaching a type of emotional exhaustion. And
[8:16] Speaker 2: I don't know if that leaves us vulnerable or not.
[8:19] Speaker 2: But what's your take? Ryan? Now you've had quite a
[8:22] Speaker 2: bit of experience, you know, with a Skinwalker ranch, so
[8:26] Speaker 2: you've seen all kinds of weird stuff. Do you see
[8:30] Speaker 2: it as being evil or good? Do you see it
[8:32] Speaker 2: as being for our benefit or detriment? What's your take
[8:37] Speaker 2: on it? I'm sorry, I know I just threw a
[8:39] Speaker 2: lot at you. Sorry about that.
[8:42] Speaker 3: No, that was great.
[8:43] Speaker 1: I think it's a mixed bag and it's it's a
[8:47] Speaker 1: bag of onions, onions that all have layers.
[8:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people want to put it.
[8:54] Speaker 1: Sadly, we are in this, in this reality, in this existence,
[8:59] Speaker 1: we are entted.
[9:00] Speaker 3: He's with only five senses.
[9:02] Speaker 1: So we want to place it into a box where
[9:05] Speaker 1: it is one particular thing, we can wrap our minds
[9:08] Speaker 1: around it and we can move on with life. Unfortunately,
[9:13] Speaker 1: that's not the way this works. It's a bit juicier
[9:16] Speaker 1: than that. And this is this is where things get
[9:19] Speaker 1: a little bit interesting because there is a si op,
[9:24] Speaker 1: there is a controlled disclosure, but at the same time,
[9:28] Speaker 1: there is this ability for the world's governments to use
[9:36] Speaker 1: UFO lore as a cover for black budget military operations.
[9:43] Speaker 1: And so from the nineteen forties onward, once they realized
[9:50] Speaker 1: we can no longer hide this. Instead, let's use this
[9:56] Speaker 1: to our advantage when and if the stuff gets out,
[10:00] Speaker 1: we can utilize it as a cover for covert military projects.
[10:07] Speaker 1: And therefore, uh, this, this seems to be working out
[10:10] Speaker 1: better for them. And and that's why it has a
[10:13] Speaker 1: feel of a limited hangout. And why you see the
[10:16] Speaker 1: same talking heads in the field over and over again,
[10:21] Speaker 1: is because they literally have people in place and they
[10:27] Speaker 1: have a long history of this people who are there
[10:31] Speaker 1: to and in many cases these people don't know they're
[10:34] Speaker 1: being utilized as gatekeepers or as guardrails to something that
[10:42] Speaker 1: is much larger than them. And these people will be
[10:45] Speaker 1: fed information for example, aliens are all evil, you know,
[10:52] Speaker 1: you hear that narrative, and somebody will one believe this
[10:55] Speaker 1: because they had an experience like that, and then that's
[10:58] Speaker 1: all that they're fed from their sources, and so they
[11:02] Speaker 1: rightfully will claim this over and over again that these
[11:05] Speaker 1: are malevolent entities coming to destroy us, and rightfully so,
[11:09] Speaker 1: it's not their fault, but they are guarded from seeing
[11:14] Speaker 1: that there are other onions in the bag that are
[11:17] Speaker 1: very multi layered. There are positive experiences like you had
[11:21] Speaker 1: in others, and there's everything in between.
[11:23] Speaker 3: So it's fascinating, it really.
[11:28] Speaker 2: Is, and it's tied into so much like for instance,
[11:33] Speaker 2: and I kind of believe this is true that a
[11:36] Speaker 2: lot of the nations on Earth today require war in
[11:42] Speaker 2: order to keep their economies running smoothly, in order to
[11:49] Speaker 2: keep the sheep or the people pacified, thinking that they're
[11:54] Speaker 2: you know, being taken care of by somehow more superior
[11:59] Speaker 2: other human or whatever. And then that's all tied into religion.
[12:04] Speaker 2: You know, I've been doing a lot of investigating lately
[12:08] Speaker 2: on how a lot of the wars, even though we
[12:14] Speaker 2: see it as being one nation against another nation, there's
[12:19] Speaker 2: businesses like the Ford Motor Corporation and stuff that we're
[12:24] Speaker 2: building all the tanks for the so called enemy, and
[12:28] Speaker 2: you know China, Russia. Basically the oligarchs are those that
[12:33] Speaker 2: own the big businesses. They're just super profiting off everything.
[12:38] Speaker 2: And another thing that really blew my mind, and I've
[12:41] Speaker 2: known this for a number of years, is the churches
[12:44] Speaker 2: are involved in all the different sides. So for instance,
[12:48] Speaker 2: not to pick on the Catholics, but I'm just going
[12:50] Speaker 2: to use them as an example. They were blessing the
[12:54] Speaker 2: bombs for both the Allied and the Axis forces in
[12:59] Speaker 2: World War Too. Now, to me, that just blew my mind,
[13:03] Speaker 2: and that really made it difficult for me to trust
[13:06] Speaker 2: religion after that. But then even these religions, you know,
[13:10] Speaker 2: we've got intense religious ideologies that also are doing the
[13:16] Speaker 2: same thing, perpetuating this animosity and all of this stuff.
[13:21] Speaker 2: And then you got to sit back and go who
[13:24] Speaker 2: who is this supporting? Who is this benefiting? And it
[13:28] Speaker 2: seems to be, like you said, a beg of onions,
[13:31] Speaker 2: and every onion's got its layers and it seems to
[13:35] Speaker 2: all be connected. So you know, I'm starting to think
[13:39] Speaker 2: that the disclosure that's coming from authorities is the siop.
[13:45] Speaker 2: It's just another psyop, and I don't think we're going
[13:49] Speaker 2: to get any satisfaction. Meanwhile, those of us who are
[13:53] Speaker 2: talking about our real life experiences and trying to, you know,
[13:58] Speaker 2: give people something to believe, and we're just hunned and
[14:02] Speaker 2: ridiculed and targeted and scapegoaded, and you know, it's just
[14:09] Speaker 2: a really big mess in my opinion. What's your take
[14:12] Speaker 2: on how? I know I've said a lot, Ryan, I'm sorry.
[14:16] Speaker 2: I don't mean to throw everything at you like that
[14:18] Speaker 2: all willy nilly, but it's a big problem.
[14:21] Speaker 3: You know, I like willy nilly. That's exactly what it is.
[14:27] Speaker 2: Is.
[14:27] Speaker 3: It's a huge, unresolved issue.
[14:30] Speaker 1: And I think you're one hundred percent right that you
[14:33] Speaker 1: can't trust And as an example, this is something that
[14:39] Speaker 1: is wild for some reason, something that has been literally
[14:44] Speaker 1: injected into the UFO lore narrative is that you can't
[14:50] Speaker 1: trust any human experiences unless

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