# Scott Pace | Swamp Cryptids, Extraterrestrial Encounters, Journeys Beyond the Material Realm

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## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
[0:04] Speaker 1: and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
[0:08] Speaker 1: that people are going to have to talk about how
[0:10] Speaker 1: weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
[0:14] Speaker 1: your host Chris Matthew. Today my guest is Scott Pace.
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[0:40] Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Today I want to welcome back
[0:43] Speaker 1: to the show Scott Pace. He is from Louisiana working
[0:46] Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge. He's an avid deer hunter. He is
[0:49] Speaker 1: an experiencer and researcher of Cryptid's paranormal and extraterrestrial entities.
[0:55] Speaker 1: His story was featured in my first documentary, A Cult Louisiana. Scott,
[1:00] Speaker 1: welcome back.
[1:01] Speaker 2: How you doing doing? Great man? Great to be back.
[1:04] Speaker 2: Good to see you. A lot going on over here
[1:07] Speaker 2: on the side, and uh, you know, it's always something
[1:09] Speaker 2: in Kassachia National Forest.
[1:11] Speaker 1: So I can't wait to hear about it. It has
[1:14] Speaker 1: been a while. And for those that aren't familiar, you
[1:17] Speaker 1: should go watch a cult Louisiana or right now on
[1:19] Speaker 1: to be or go back to one of the many
[1:22] Speaker 1: interviews that Scott and I have previously done to hear
[1:25] Speaker 1: more about his stories. To summarize, he has had encounters
[1:29] Speaker 1: with various cryptids, bigfoot dog men, as well as possible
[1:33] Speaker 1: extraterrestrial encounters, a spectrum of high strangeness. And today we're
[1:38] Speaker 1: going to get the long awaited updates about your experiences.
[1:43] Speaker 1: Before we get into that, though, how has everything been
[1:46] Speaker 1: going with your campground?
[1:49] Speaker 2: So up there in Kasachi National Force that's where you know,
[1:53] Speaker 2: me and my wife have a place that we built
[1:55] Speaker 2: up there. My father gave us a land where our
[1:57] Speaker 2: family came from, and so we built a camp. I'm
[2:00] Speaker 2: up there and so that's been going great. Only got
[2:04] Speaker 2: a lot this year, got a lot of the brush
[2:06] Speaker 2: and stuff cleaned up what I call thickets and all that.
[2:08] Speaker 2: So we got that done and so I'm really happy
[2:10] Speaker 2: where that's at right now, and you actually see more
[2:13] Speaker 2: into the woods. We have two creeks that run through
[2:15] Speaker 2: the bottom. And that's the last thing I got done
[2:18] Speaker 2: before I came back to South Louisiana. So we're gonna
[2:21] Speaker 2: take a lettle break for the summertimes. It got way
[2:23] Speaker 2: too hot. Too many red bugs. Yeah, and that's something
[2:28] Speaker 2: to deal with. To you, you have learned experiences if
[2:30] Speaker 2: you'rom South Louisiana and you go to North Louisiana and
[2:33] Speaker 2: the red bugs are just one thing. So I've learned
[2:35] Speaker 2: to put rubber boots on and kind of spread down
[2:38] Speaker 2: with W forty far go inside the the the woods
[2:42] Speaker 2: and stuff and beautiful place up there. But man, the
[2:45] Speaker 2: activity is just incredible. And so I'll try to pick
[2:50] Speaker 2: up if I could remember, myga Lord, it's been a
[2:52] Speaker 2: while since we talked, so.
[2:53] Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, the last story that I remember
[2:57] Speaker 1: hearing you tell about your experiences when you were starting
[3:01] Speaker 1: to experience what seemed like extraterrestrial encounters during the night.
[3:06] Speaker 1: You'd even wake up with scratches or bloody nose, strange
[3:11] Speaker 1: physical effects that you'd find afterwards. That was the last
[3:16] Speaker 1: I remember hearing about.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Yes, And so I've had, let's see, one big one
[3:21] Speaker 2: since since so June of This is crazy. I remember
[3:24] Speaker 2: the dates, but this is amazing. It happened. I'll never
[3:26] Speaker 2: forget it. June third of twenty twenty three, and we'll
[3:30] Speaker 2: just go with the UFO stuff first. And you know,
[3:34] Speaker 2: I've had quite a few things happened since then. It's
[3:37] Speaker 2: just kind of different and stuff like that. But this
[3:38] Speaker 2: one was a big one. So anyways, was still working
[3:42] Speaker 2: my last job at the Tome. I'm retired now as
[3:44] Speaker 2: of January. So anyways, I remember sleeping and my wife
[3:49] Speaker 2: had had had one of her surgers she had, so
[3:51] Speaker 2: she was sleeping downstairs and so we have a little
[3:54] Speaker 2: two story house that you can see by the roof
[3:56] Speaker 2: and stuff right here. So I'm sleeping. All of a sudden,
[3:58] Speaker 2: the cat wakes me up and she's me outing like
[4:01] Speaker 2: crazy meow. I'm yeah, yea, I'm when a start sho
[4:03] Speaker 2: looking around and you know, you kind of come out
[4:05] Speaker 2: of the room. Sleep, you're dead, sleep, you're just seeing stars.
[4:08] Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I was seeing. So if you
[4:10] Speaker 2: can picture this whole room right here, when I woke up,
[4:14] Speaker 2: all I seen was stars in here and that one
[4:16] Speaker 2: was it and it was just like like lightning bugs
[4:18] Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Said, So I went to the
[4:19] Speaker 2: restroom with the bathroom, rubbed my eyes, washed my eyes
[4:23] Speaker 2: out real quick because I was seeing stuff. So I
[4:24] Speaker 2: walked back into the room. When I walked back in
[4:26] Speaker 2: the room, all this had disappeared, this whole thing and
[4:31] Speaker 2: it was like I was in another solar system or
[4:34] Speaker 2: something like that. And I sat there in the bed
[4:36] Speaker 2: and was just looking around. Well, voice came to me,
[4:38] Speaker 2: and this voice came to me said they were the
[4:41] Speaker 2: Auturians and said we're the blue people, and I'm like what.
[4:45] Speaker 2: So then it went on this big conversation for about
[4:48] Speaker 2: an hour or two and they began to tell me
[4:50] Speaker 2: about themselves and stuff. But what's weird is I don't
[4:52] Speaker 2: remember it. And that's really really weird. But I called
[4:55] Speaker 2: my wife right before it went away, and I told her,
[4:57] Speaker 2: I said, get up, you gotta get up. You got
[4:59] Speaker 2: to come see this. She walked upstairs and it was
[5:01] Speaker 2: just the room was just coming back into what it
[5:04] Speaker 2: is now. But she got to see some of the
[5:07] Speaker 2: star looking things inside here, and it was just like
[5:09] Speaker 2: a bunch of it was just like this room had
[5:11] Speaker 2: disappeared where the floor is on up. Everything disappeared. This
[5:16] Speaker 2: place turned into what you would call another solar system
[5:19] Speaker 2: or something, and that's how they came. And they told
[5:21] Speaker 2: me that they were actually on a ship and they
[5:25] Speaker 2: were projecting themselves to me, and so they were talking
[5:29] Speaker 2: to me, and so they told me about a few things,
[5:31] Speaker 2: but most of it, be honest with, I just don't remember.
[5:33] Speaker 2: And that's really weird how they wipe out your mind.
[5:36] Speaker 2: And that's one of the things. You know, a lot
[5:39] Speaker 2: of times, if you have experience, you can't remember them
[5:41] Speaker 2: because they have a way of taking your memory and
[5:44] Speaker 2: memory and just getting rid of it, you know, and
[5:46] Speaker 2: the things you remember, but they'll tell you what's going
[5:48] Speaker 2: on and what's happening. And there's a lot of things
[5:51] Speaker 2: in space that are going on around now. You know,
[5:52] Speaker 2: there's a lot of things in the news that are
[5:54] Speaker 2: going on, and they talk about these things, but you know,
[5:58] Speaker 2: what's happening. We've been dumbed down. Humans have been dumbed
[6:02] Speaker 2: down and for a lot of different reasons and stuff,
[6:04] Speaker 2: and so they think we can't handle it and stuff
[6:06] Speaker 2: like that. But that's one of the big things happened.
[6:09] Speaker 2: Another thing since we're talking about Ufo Zug going to that.
[6:12] Speaker 2: And last year I had an experience to where I
[6:17] Speaker 2: was in my hunting stand and I hear this noise
[6:20] Speaker 2: that actually sounds like a rolling door in the middle
[6:23] Speaker 2: of the National forest coming down, and it's like like
[6:26] Speaker 2: you take a rolling door and you pull down your
[6:28] Speaker 2: shop that The next sound I heard was like a
[6:33] Speaker 2: dump truck. If you've ever had dirt dumped on your
[6:36] Speaker 2: property or you had some kind of rock or something,
[6:38] Speaker 2: you would hear it and they back up and all
[6:40] Speaker 2: of a sudden they stop and they slam the tailgate
[6:43] Speaker 2: and bam, it hits like that and the dirt comes
[6:45] Speaker 2: falling out whatever's left in there. This is something they
[6:47] Speaker 2: do every time. And so that's exactly what I heard
[6:51] Speaker 2: in the National Force. I'm thinking, must say, well, they're
[6:53] Speaker 2: not long on or nothing around here, and I'm you know,
[6:55] Speaker 2: we're on hunting season and stuff, and so what was
[6:58] Speaker 2: weird was I heard it that morning And that morning
[7:01] Speaker 2: I seen a big, huge dog man and this thing
[7:03] Speaker 2: was huge man. The head was like something big I'd
[7:07] Speaker 2: never seen before, and it was crunched down that was
[7:09] Speaker 2: watching me the whole time I was hunting and never
[7:11] Speaker 2: they come at me and never try to come out,
[7:14] Speaker 2: you know, attack me or anything. So I left that spot, honey.
[7:17] Speaker 2: I went to another spot that evening. But that evening
[7:21] Speaker 2: was very, very strange because the same noise happened again.
[7:26] Speaker 2: And when it did, I looked over through the National
[7:31] Speaker 2: Forest and there was like a little clearing over there.
[7:33] Speaker 2: And as the sun was coming down that evening, I
[7:36] Speaker 2: want to say it was a Friday evening, as the
[7:38] Speaker 2: sun was coming down, I began to see this same
[7:40] Speaker 2: project out there, and I say, what in the world
[7:42] Speaker 2: is this? And it didn't look like a normal UFO
[7:46] Speaker 2: or anything. It looked more like a rectangle like you
[7:49] Speaker 2: look at the screen right here now, and it had
[7:52] Speaker 2: different levels to it, and you could see it sitting
[7:54] Speaker 2: out there, and it was just sitting there. But as
[7:56] Speaker 2: the sun was coming down, it was like it it
[7:58] Speaker 2: it went through a plane or something. Then you could
[8:00] Speaker 2: pick up on it, you could see it. And then
[8:02] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, when the sun was going down,
[8:04] Speaker 2: completely down where it couldn't see anymore, it went away,
[8:07] Speaker 2: but it was out a certain pitch of the sun
[8:09] Speaker 2: that you could see this thing. Yeah, So it's a.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Couple of things that I wanted to ask you about
[8:14] Speaker 1: going back first to the Arcturian encounter. Were you able
[8:18] Speaker 1: to perceive them in any way visually? Could you see
[8:22] Speaker 1: anything besides the little stardust?
[8:26] Speaker 2: It was it was like it was I was sitting
[8:28] Speaker 2: in a like a different solar system or something, you know,
[8:31] Speaker 2: but there was I could see deep, like very very
[8:34] Speaker 2: very deep into the solar system, and it was like
[8:36] Speaker 2: I was sitting just like out an outer space and
[8:39] Speaker 2: I was sitting in my room in my bed, because
[8:42] Speaker 2: I went back and just set up in my bed
[8:43] Speaker 2: and I'm just looking around. I could see all this
[8:45] Speaker 2: stuff like as just as if I was in a bubble,
[8:50] Speaker 2: pretty much if I was in a bubble and I
[8:52] Speaker 2: was out in space looking out in space, and I
[8:54] Speaker 2: could see all this stuff very very clear, though, But
[8:56] Speaker 2: you couldn't see the beings themselves, right, No, I never
[9:01] Speaker 2: did see them. And they just told me who they were,
[9:03] Speaker 2: what they looked like, and that was it. You know,
[9:06] Speaker 2: they didn't they didn't.
[9:07] Speaker 1: Did you get the sense that they were benevolent, that
[9:10] Speaker 1: they were there to assist.
[9:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They were there to help, and they
[9:16] Speaker 2: had they pretty much talked to me, and so many
[9:18] Speaker 2: they've seen some things that were going in my life
[9:20] Speaker 2: and stuff like that, you know, and they said, you know,
[9:22] Speaker 2: you're gonna be okay with stuff, and so that's part
[9:25] Speaker 2: of the conversation I remember, but I don't remember a
[9:27] Speaker 2: whole lot of the conversation. But what was funny was
[9:30] Speaker 2: it lasted for two hours and that that was a
[9:33] Speaker 2: neat thing about that really really interesting, you know. Yeah,
[9:38] Speaker 2: And since then, I'm trying to remember if I've had
[9:39] Speaker 2: any any more incidents where i had scars and stuff
[9:45] Speaker 2: on my body where I'd come back from like something
[9:48] Speaker 2: where they come and pick you up and you go
[9:50] Speaker 2: and you do things and you come back.
[9:52] Speaker 1: You said something very interesting about your encounter in the
[9:56] Speaker 1: woods and the noise that you heard that came before
[10:01] Speaker 1: and after your dog man siting this very heavy, metallic sound.
[10:05] Speaker 1: You said, I've heard others described this very same sound
[10:10] Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of national
[10:12] Speaker 1: forest areas. A couple of researchers have speculated that it
[10:17] Speaker 1: has to do with something coming in and out of
[10:20] Speaker 1: our reality, maybe a portal opening your closing. What do
[10:24] Speaker 1: you think about that?
[10:26] Speaker 2: So that's why I was gonna finish tell you a story.
[10:28] Speaker 2: What happened was so Almos Sunday evening. Sunday evening, I
[10:32] Speaker 2: come back and I call my friend Barry Webster. He
[10:35] Speaker 2: is red squatching and they're located in Mason, Nebraska. I
[10:40] Speaker 2: went up there in twenty twenty two and spent some
[10:42] Speaker 2: time winning and spent the weekend I went researching and stuff,
[10:47] Speaker 2: and pretty much after that, as far as doing field research,
[10:50] Speaker 2: besides doing the little stuff I do on my own,
[10:53] Speaker 2: I don't do any more research because I've seen everything
[10:55] Speaker 2: I wanted to see. And I don't know if we
[10:56] Speaker 2: hadn't got into that too much, but you know, and
[11:00] Speaker 2: so I seen a lot away, more than I wanted
[11:02] Speaker 2: to see and more than my mind couldn't handle. And
[11:05] Speaker 2: so anyways, i'd give him a call on the way home,
[11:07] Speaker 2: I said, Barry, I said, I had this experience. Oh
[11:11] Speaker 2: there was one other thing that happen twice that weekend.
[11:13] Speaker 2: Let me finish. That was Friday evening. So this Saturday
[11:15] Speaker 2: evening something else happened. So we're sitting there and I'm
[11:20] Speaker 2: sitting in the stand. It got kind of warm that day.
[11:22] Speaker 2: So anyways, we hunted to the dark and one of
[11:25] Speaker 2: my cousins had shot and so I could have sworn
[11:28] Speaker 2: he hit a deer, you know. So we went back
[11:30] Speaker 2: around and there was actually four of us hunting at time,
[11:32] Speaker 2: so it went back to the corner where he was
[11:34] Speaker 2: hunting on our hunt lease, and we started looking for
[11:37] Speaker 2: the deer. We got dark, and we didn't see anything.
[11:39] Speaker 2: It didn't see no blood or anything. But I could
[11:41] Speaker 2: have sworn I heard it hit, because it makes it
[11:43] Speaker 2: when you're hunting and you shoot, you hear a distinctive
[11:45] Speaker 2: thud like they hit something, you know. But we didn't
[11:47] Speaker 2: find any blood or anything, which I thought was very unusual.
[11:50] Speaker 2: So that was probably just dark. About six thirty. We
[11:55] Speaker 2: had spent time about an hour, so it had got
[11:57] Speaker 2: good and dark by then. And we look over and
[12:00] Speaker 2: these lights and these lights are coming down out of
[12:04] Speaker 2: this pine tree, just coming straight down like this, you know.
[12:07] Speaker 2: And that was actually one single light came down. So
[12:10] Speaker 2: I told my cousin look over there. He said, oh yeah,
[12:12] Speaker 2: he said, he's a president of Hunt club and he said,
[12:14] Speaker 2: oh yeah, he said, said they're probably I said they're
[12:18] Speaker 2: probably bow hunt or something over there. So they can't
[12:20] Speaker 2: use guns this time of year. They got you only
[12:22] Speaker 2: bow hunting. So we have different seasons where you can
[12:24] Speaker 2: use guns in the national force. So we're private land
[12:27] Speaker 2: so we can use whatever. So then I look over
[12:30] Speaker 2: there again and there's another one which is very strange,
[12:34] Speaker 2: another light, this one. This other one's on the ground now,
[12:38] Speaker 2: and this other light comes out of the tree and
[12:40] Speaker 2: it's coming down like this one single light. So I
[12:44] Speaker 2: look over there, so my gun. They sitting there and
[12:46] Speaker 2: the lights are are moving around and they're doing this.
[12:48] Speaker 2: They're looking at each other and stuff like that. So
[12:51] Speaker 2: I told my cousin. My cousin has this really powerful light.
[12:55] Speaker 2: He takes this light and he clicks it on and
[12:57] Speaker 2: points it right out of him. I said, man, I
[12:58] Speaker 2: don't do that. I said, that's kind of rude to
[13:01] Speaker 2: be pointing people's faces like that, you know. And also
[13:03] Speaker 2: both of them look at they look this way. Both
[13:05] Speaker 2: the lights look this way. Your head lights look at us,
[13:07] Speaker 2: you know, huh. And that then they look at each other.
[13:09] Speaker 2: They look at us. And then I said, well, come on,
[13:12] Speaker 2: let's go. You know, it's it's dark, it's it's time
[13:14] Speaker 2: to go eat dinner anyway, you know. So anyways, we
[13:15] Speaker 2: all couldn't find a deer, so we just end up
[13:18] Speaker 2: closing the gate to the hunt leaves and we start
[13:19] Speaker 2: riding out. Well, we on his side, his side by side,
[13:23] Speaker 2: riding out right, and all of a sudden, we see
[13:26] Speaker 2: these two lights following us and they're walking out. He said, oh,
[13:31] Speaker 2: it must be two hunters. He said, well, they're probably lost.
[13:34] Speaker 2: They're trying to find their way out. Well, there's a
[13:35] Speaker 2: ridge that pretty much runs through the National forest before
[13:40] Speaker 2: it goes down. It's like a it's like a ridge
[13:42] Speaker 2: that follow us all the way out, and then they'll
[13:43] Speaker 2: drop off when it comes close to our camp over
[13:46] Speaker 2: there and it turns into springs and stuff and and
[13:49] Speaker 2: and uh low land that goes over there. So these
[13:51] Speaker 2: two lights are following us out and we go all away,
[13:54] Speaker 2: We go through curves stuff like that. Also, we have
[13:56] Speaker 2: the straight away, long straightaway before it gets to a
[13:58] Speaker 2: little road that's a blacktop road out there, and we
[14:02] Speaker 2: look over. These two lights have caught up with us,
[14:06] Speaker 2: and I looked. I said, man, it's kind of strange,
[14:08] Speaker 2: he said. Those guys are walking kind of fast. So
[14:11] Speaker 2: sure enough, one of them looks our way. When I do,
[14:14] Speaker 2: I see the eye and it's like so it looks
[14:18] Speaker 2: like a tube, but the light is projecting out of
[14:20] Speaker 2: the tube. Well that's a sasquatch. So I began to
[14:23] Speaker 2: mind speak to him again. It talked to him. I
[14:25] Speaker 2: asked him, I said, look, are y'all sasquatch? And one
[14:27] Speaker 2: of them said yes. The other one paying any attention
[14:30] Speaker 2: to me, he said yes. I said, what are y'all doing?
[14:33] Speaker 2: What are y'all looking for? And it looked straight at me,
[14:36] Speaker 2: it said, none of your business. I'm like, whoa, I've
[14:40] Speaker 2: never had any talk to me like that, you know.
[14:42] Speaker 2: And then this other one went straight and this other
[14:45] Speaker 2: one started walking right toward us. I remember the day
[14:49] Speaker 2: before I seen I remember the day before I seen
[14:51] Speaker 2: this huge dog man right and we heard the I
[14:54] Speaker 2: will tell you what it was. So anyways, I that
[14:57] Speaker 2: evening went inside, you know, and that morning, I that
[15:00] Speaker 2: day before, we went outside. On lunchtime, I cooked a saucepeacan.
[15:03] Speaker 2: So I made chicken the sauce of sauce precan for
[15:05] Speaker 2: everybody up there. Of course, they don't cook like we
[15:08] Speaker 2: do from South Louisiana, right North Louisiana, So I do
[15:11] Speaker 2: most of cooking when I go up there if I'm home,
[15:15] Speaker 2: so you know about the good food. So anyways, I
[15:19] Speaker 2: see my cousin, and I went to his son's houses
[15:22] Speaker 2: right next door. So we're sitting on the porch and
[15:24] Speaker 2: I'm eating my sauce peacana watching him. Man, he's out there,
[15:27] Speaker 2: he's scratching his head, he's looking out in the woods.
[15:29] Speaker 2: He's trying to think about this, is trying to figure
[15:31] Speaker 2: it all out and everything. But I never said anything
[15:33] Speaker 2: to him, you know. So that's that Sunday, I leave
[15:36] Speaker 2: and I go back Sunday even I go back home
[15:38] Speaker 2: to South Louisiana, you know. And so I called my
[15:44] Speaker 2: buddy on the way home, Barry Webster, and I say, Barry,
[15:46] Speaker 2: I said, I got to ask you about something. He said, yeah, man,
[15:49] Speaker 2: asked anything. I said, Well, first thing happened is I
[15:52] Speaker 2: heard this metallic noise sounds like a door, like a
[15:56] Speaker 2: roll up door coming down hard. And then I heard
[15:59] Speaker 2: a boom like the ad tailgate of a dump truck hitting.
[16:02] Speaker 2: He said, that's a portal opening closing. So I said okay.
[16:08] Speaker 2: So I said okay. I said, wow, that's that's crazy.
[16:10] Speaker 2: It would do like that. He said, oh, yeah, that's
[16:13] Speaker 2: what they do. But it begs you to differ to
[16:16] Speaker 2: think about something else. Okay, if it's if it's a
[16:20] Speaker 2: door opening closing, maybe it's a portal opening and closing,
[16:24] Speaker 2: but there's some kind of cage associated with it. Think
[16:29] Speaker 2: about that, and then something was released.
[16:34] Speaker 1: So why would you say that there's a cage associated
[16:36] Speaker 1: with it?
[16:38] Speaker 2: Because I've seen portals opening closed before my own eyes,
[16:41] Speaker 2: I never heard anything like that. And all of a
[16:43] Speaker 2: sudden I seen this huge dog man come out of it. Huge.
[16:47] Speaker 2: When I say huge huge, the head was bigger than
[16:49] Speaker 2: anything I've ever seen before. It was. It was just massive,
[16:52] Speaker 2: you know. And this thing was squatted down on the
[16:55] Speaker 2: ground and its head must have been pretty much three
[16:59] Speaker 2: by three. It was huge. It was just big. But
[17:02] Speaker 2: it was sitting there and just looked at me in
[17:03] Speaker 2: a whole time. And so I've seen at least one. Now,
[17:06] Speaker 2: was there more than that? I don't know. That's why
[17:08] Speaker 2: I think that when you hear that metallic noise, that
[17:11] Speaker 2: there's something being released through a portal.
[17:15] Speaker 1: You mentioned mind speak earlier, I'm assuming that ever since
[17:19] Speaker 1: your first encounter, that you were able to maintain that
[17:23] Speaker 1: ability to mind speak. For those that aren't familiar, the
[17:27] Speaker 1: very first encounter Scott had with a sasquatch and a
[17:30] Speaker 1: dog man together strangely enough, he essentially unlocked an ability
[17:36] Speaker 1: to telepathically speak with these beings and they had a
[17:40] Speaker 1: conversation that very first time. I'm assuming that you can
[17:44] Speaker 1: still do this right.
[17:47] Speaker 2: Yes, it happens. Really, what happens whenever it comes on
[17:51] Speaker 2: is I get a hot pitch noise when something's around us,
[17:54] Speaker 2: like a crypti or something. Always get a hot pitch
[17:56] Speaker 2: noise in one side of my ear, and that's where
[17:58] Speaker 2: they are. And this is very strange, but that's the
[18:01] Speaker 2: way it comes on. And it don't matter what it is.
[18:03] Speaker 2: It could be any kind of cryptid or UFO or whatever.
[18:05] Speaker 2: It could be something in the air. And I've ran
[18:07] Speaker 2: outside of my house before so loud. When I hear
[18:10] Speaker 2: the noise and it sounds like it's above me, I'll
[18:12] Speaker 2: run outside and see if I see a UFO or
[18:13] Speaker 2: something like that. And just to let you know, since
[18:17] Speaker 2: you and I have talked last, I've probably seen about
[18:18] Speaker 2: five or six UFOs at least, maybe more than that now.
[18:23] Speaker 2: But there was a time when I would I'd go
[18:26] Speaker 2: outside and just sit on my porch. I'd work the
[18:29] Speaker 2: evening shift and I would go sit out there and
[18:32] Speaker 2: just get me a little bourbon or something. Sip on
[18:35] Speaker 2: that and get me a cigar, and I just think
[18:36] Speaker 2: about life and stuff like that, you know, because it's
[18:39] Speaker 2: a lot to deal with when you when you have
[18:40] Speaker 2: this cindability and stuff like that, you know, and do
[18:43] Speaker 2: a lot of talking to God and stuff. I'm still
[18:45] Speaker 2: a Christian and stuff like that. So you know, I've
[18:48] Speaker 2: had people attack my faith before on interviews and stuff
[18:51] Speaker 2: like that, and I just shut the interview down because
[18:52] Speaker 2: I mean, there, I believe there is a super supernatural
[18:55] Speaker 2: being that's up there, you know, and I believe in
[18:59] Speaker 2: God and I believe in g and stuff like that.
[19:00] Speaker 2: So but anyways, moving on.
[19:03] Speaker 1: Earlier, you mentioned some experiences that you might have had
[19:08] Speaker 1: between the last time I spoke that you said affected
[19:11] Speaker 1: you heavily and really messed with your mind. Would you
[19:14] Speaker 1: be able to tell us about some of those?
[19:17] Speaker 2: Sure? Sure, I also tell about the UFOs, but we're
[19:19] Speaker 2: going to the Oh yeah, you go ahead, so with
[19:21] Speaker 2: you and we can get to that after UFO. Let's
[19:24] Speaker 2: go over all the ones I've seen so far. And
[19:26] Speaker 2: this is crazy. So coming off of work one day
[19:30] Speaker 2: and this is midday, Okay, this is about five o'clock
[19:32] Speaker 2: getting home from work. I used to get home when
[19:34] Speaker 2: I did work an evening ship, I'll get home at night.
[19:37] Speaker 2: But then they swapped me over to a midshift, and
[19:38] Speaker 2: so I'll get home about five or six o'clock, right,
[19:41] Speaker 2: and there was a cloud. And now this cloud, this
[19:45] Speaker 2: square just comes out like a Rubis cube, look just
[19:48] Speaker 2: like a Rubis cube, except it has some kind of
[19:52] Speaker 2: clear metallic looking plates on it, like a bunch of them,
[19:56] Speaker 2: and it looks like that board behind you is what
[19:58] Speaker 2: it looks like. Okay, And it comes out, goes to
[20:01] Speaker 2: the south and then takes off real fast and goes
[20:04] Speaker 2: to the northeast. So that's one. So I'm like, man,
[20:07] Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy to see that. So then I
[20:11] Speaker 2: go and let's begin to come home every day pretty
[20:13] Speaker 2: much after that. And I would sit on a little
[20:16] Speaker 2: patio that we have, and you sat on my front
[20:19] Speaker 2: porch before, so you remember having little patio to the
[20:21] Speaker 2: to the right of view where you sat at We
[20:23] Speaker 2: sat over there. It came so anyways, we were sitting there.
[20:26] Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I'm sitting in a chair just
[20:28] Speaker 2: looking at the south, and all of a sudden, I
[20:30] Speaker 2: see these row of lights coming and the clouds are
[20:33] Speaker 2: blown out of the northwest. Who was cool? Okay, So
[20:36] Speaker 2: it was pretty much in the winter time and blown out,
[20:38] Speaker 2: and all of sudden I see this one cloud which
[20:40] Speaker 2: is really weird. This one cloud comes over from the
[20:43] Speaker 2: west and it's moving real slow against the grain, and
[20:47] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this same Chris, it stops. I said,
[20:50] Speaker 2: oh boy, here we go. And all of a sudden,
[20:53] Speaker 2: this thing looks like a big old triangle. It's huge,
[20:55] Speaker 2: I mean just really huge, just as big as the
[20:57] Speaker 2: town we live in. And these lights came all along
[21:00] Speaker 2: on it, okay. And it stayed there for a long time.
[21:02] Speaker 2: So I began to try to mine speak to it
[21:04] Speaker 2: and talk to it, but it just sat there. Okay.
[21:08] Speaker 2: Well then finally it moved on. Okay. And there's an
[21:11] Speaker 2: old one that happened. Trying to remember the date if
[21:15] Speaker 2: I told you about this other one, but me, and
[21:17] Speaker 2: this happened to me and my wife. So Hurricane Ida
[21:20] Speaker 2: comes through, okay, and we see this white ball coming
[21:23] Speaker 2: out of the south. There. You've gotta understand the evening
[21:25] Speaker 2: time when a hurricane comes through, nobody has electricity. All
[21:28] Speaker 2: you have is generators running. That's all you hear. And
[21:31] Speaker 2: so it's pretty much dark everywhere. They don't have Harley
[21:33] Speaker 2: in the lights. So we're looking up at the sky
[21:35] Speaker 2: and you know, it is kind of like a dim light,
[21:39] Speaker 2: you know, you can see it as in this one.
[21:42] Speaker 2: Led light starts coming out of south straight toward us.
[21:44] Speaker 2: And so she's looking at it and she said, oh,
[21:46] Speaker 2: look there's airplane coming. Said, no, no airplane. The FLAS
[21:49] Speaker 2: is a wrong flight line, so unless it's coming out
[21:52] Speaker 2: of South America or something like that, and I doubt that.
[21:55] Speaker 2: And it got a little closer and a little closer,
[21:57] Speaker 2: and finally it was almost all the way over. So
[21:59] Speaker 2: I looked up at it and I said, I can
[22:01] Speaker 2: see you. As soon as I said that, it changed.
[22:05] Speaker 2: It went from a bright light went off. And also
[22:09] Speaker 2: this is disc looks just like a CD and it's
[22:13] Speaker 2: turning to counterclockwise. Okay, And so she's seen it too,
[22:16] Speaker 2: and it went almost directly over and then it shot
[22:19] Speaker 2: directly west, just shot off like that. And my wife
[22:22] Speaker 2: looked at better. She said, I'm going inside. I see
[22:25] Speaker 2: you going inside. What you going to inside for? I said,
[22:27] Speaker 2: if you wanted to get you, that already got you,
[22:29] Speaker 2: you know. And so that's another one, and I've seen
[22:32] Speaker 2: another one that looked like like this. You see she
[22:36] Speaker 2: had tryangle looking like that. It looked just like that, Okay,
[22:40] Speaker 2: And I was sitting there and all of a sudden,
[22:42] Speaker 2: I see this almost like a flash, and I see
[22:46] Speaker 2: this open like this. So that's like a portal Okay,
[22:48] Speaker 2: opens like this and the closures real fast, and it
[22:51] Speaker 2: looks just like a like a window shade. You pull
[22:54] Speaker 2: up and pull down and I'll send that thing shot
[22:56] Speaker 2: out of it. So that's just a few of them
[22:59] Speaker 2: that I that I've seen.
[23:01] Speaker 1: To me, some of the most impressive UFO stories seem
[23:04] Speaker 1: to be the ones that are shape shifters that start
[23:07] Speaker 1: out as one object and completely morph into something else
[23:11] Speaker 1: with different lights and colors. This is an indication to
[23:16] Speaker 1: me that we're dealing with something that we have very
[23:20] Speaker 1: little understanding of. It makes me think of the researchers
[23:24] Speaker 1: that are looking into plasma science right now. It could
[23:27] Speaker 1: be something that is plasma based. It's fascinating that these
[23:32] Speaker 1: things can change into essentially whatever they want you to see.
[23:36] Speaker 1: I think.
[23:37] Speaker 2: So I'll go into another experience that I had where
[23:40] Speaker 2: they come and get you and you go and do
[23:42] Speaker 2: things and then oh yes, That's why I kind of
[23:45] Speaker 2: I question if some people are part of an army
[23:48] Speaker 2: like the Space Force they have now right right, Yes,
[23:51] Speaker 2: some of us, some of us were previously part of
[23:53] Speaker 2: that army. And I'm gonna tell you why these flashbacks
[23:57] Speaker 2: keep coming back and they come to me in my dreams. Okay,
[24:00] Speaker 2: So you just talked about plasma. Every time you talk
[24:02] Speaker 2: about something, it makes me, it makes me trigger something. Okay.
[24:07] Speaker 2: So I'm with these guys and it's like I'm all
[24:09] Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm just put into what I call
[24:11] Speaker 2: a dream state or whatever. Okay, and I remember it
[24:14] Speaker 2: like I'm talking to you now, And there's these two
[24:16] Speaker 2: guys and I look up and we're kind of like
[24:19] Speaker 2: in a setting to where we're fighting this one creature.
[24:22] Speaker 2: This creature looks like a huge dinosaurs would have looked
[24:26] Speaker 2: like some kind of creature like that. And these two
[24:28] Speaker 2: guys have these plasma guns. Now, the way these plasma
[24:31] Speaker 2: guns are made is there is a cartridge and has
[24:35] Speaker 2: two pieces to it and it's just one big like
[24:38] Speaker 2: shell type thing. But at the time I was looking
[24:40] Speaker 2: down at him, they said, Picky going up, start shooting.
[24:42] Speaker 2: Come on, Piky going and start shooting. So I look
[24:45] Speaker 2: down and they said here. I said, well I can't.
[24:47] Speaker 2: I can't get it loaded, and they're like what Like
[24:49] Speaker 2: they're both both of them going, what are you crazy? Here,
[24:52] Speaker 2: they opened up this cartridge and they shoved the singing
[24:55] Speaker 2: and they close it. Okay, so it opens up, put
[24:58] Speaker 2: a cartridge in the closes and they and I started shooting.
[25:00] Speaker 2: So last thing I'm memberis I'm helping them shoot at
[25:03] Speaker 2: this creature that's coming at us. But it looks like
[25:05] Speaker 2: a huge dinosaur. And so that's one of the things
[25:08] Speaker 2: that I remember. So here's another one for you. The
[25:11] Speaker 2: other time, I was a soldier and I'm caught again.
[25:15] Speaker 2: Here I am in this one little thing real quick,
[25:18] Speaker 2: and I see these creatures walking up. And these creatures
[25:21] Speaker 2: are going up a plank and going into a spaceship.
[25:25] Speaker 2: Now here's the weird part. As soon as I had
[25:27] Speaker 2: that dream, I woke up and started researching these things
[25:30] Speaker 2: to find out what it was. The heads of them
[25:33] Speaker 2: had elephants heads on them. The bodies looked like a
[25:37] Speaker 2: human body, but they had human hands but elephant feet.
[25:42] Speaker 2: And here's a sad part of this is really really weird,
[25:44] Speaker 2: really really weird. They're walking up these things and going
[25:47] Speaker 2: inside this spaceship. But I seen one of them crying,
[25:50] Speaker 2: and I'm like, it hit me into my heart right then,
[25:52] Speaker 2: I said, why are we doing that to these beans?
[25:55] Speaker 2: They're not trying to hurt anybody or doing anything, you know,
[25:57] Speaker 2: And I said, why are we doing this? You know?
[25:59] Speaker 2: And it was like my heart got convicted because we
[26:01] Speaker 2: were sitting there as soldiers making these scenes load up,
[26:04] Speaker 2: and they were taking them somewhere.
[26:06] Speaker 1: This makes me think of the many many interviews I've
[26:09] Speaker 1: done with people that claim to have been in secret
[26:14] Speaker 1: space programs, these clandestine operations, even MK ultra programs. Some
[26:22] Speaker 1: of them claim that their consciousness is being taken to
[26:26] Speaker 1: these simulations where they are experiencing war simulations or off
[26:32] Speaker 1: planet battles. Others believe that it is more of a
[26:36] Speaker 1: physical state, that when you enter a dream or astral state,
[26:41] Speaker 1: there is some kind of advanced technology that they can
[26:44] Speaker 1: transport you to these experiences. Either way, I've heard this
[26:48] Speaker 1: many times from many different people that have claimed to
[26:52] Speaker 1: have been involved with some kind of black ops program.
[26:57] Speaker 1: There's definitely something to it. Whether the people are really
[27:01] Speaker 1: experiencing it or not, I don't know, but their experiences
[27:05] Speaker 1: that have are real enough to where they definitely believe
[27:08] Speaker 1: it to where it seems like a memory, right.
[27:13] Speaker 2: Right, So why is it when people say a certain
[27:17] Speaker 2: word or a certain thing that we have flashbacks and
[27:20] Speaker 2: we remember these experiences. And then I had proof before,
[27:24] Speaker 2: because like you've shown before, we showed in the video
[27:27] Speaker 2: before are showed in a documentary. I had the proof
[27:31] Speaker 2: of it where these things actually did something to my body.
[27:35] Speaker 2: M you know. So the time that actually I went
[27:40] Speaker 2: with a ant creature, this guy was really really tall,
[27:44] Speaker 2: about seven eight feet tall. They had two grays or
[27:48] Speaker 2: tall about six foot. Then they had a sasquatch, one
[27:50] Speaker 2: sasquatch with them, and we took off, and what I
[27:53] Speaker 2: remember was going down into a corridor where they had
[27:55] Speaker 2: these big old pillars and the whole inside was a
[27:58] Speaker 2: lime color, like a lemon lime color, and then the
[28:01] Speaker 2: wal the walls just radiated this light until we got
[28:04] Speaker 2: to this sycophagus and we turned went to the sucophagus,
[28:07] Speaker 2: the big bigfoot pushed it open and he put me
[28:09] Speaker 2: inside there, and that's where this thing came alive, and
[28:13] Speaker 2: it looked looked like an alien like when those things
[28:15] Speaker 2: off the movie aling come like that and said, but
[28:18] Speaker 2: it had it had black skin, and his skin was
[28:20] Speaker 2: sucked down into its bones and stuff like that, and
[28:23] Speaker 2: this saying. When I got it, when he put me
[28:25] Speaker 2: on top of I was looking down and this thing
[28:27] Speaker 2: actually tried to grab me and that's when it put
[28:30] Speaker 2: poked toes in my legs and stuff like that. And
[28:32] Speaker 2: then I told him to get me out, get me out,
[28:34] Speaker 2: and was trying to kill me. So anyways, I could
[28:36] Speaker 2: feel something being transferred. I couldn't exactly explain it till later,
[28:40] Speaker 2: and he put the cop thing back on, and so
[28:42] Speaker 2: then they brought me out of there, and I asked,
[28:44] Speaker 2: ence of why did y'all do that? They said, because
[28:46] Speaker 2: you had a spirit and a soul. Hmmm, so interesting, yep.
[28:54] Speaker 2: Because you also.
[28:57] Speaker 1: At times you said that you remembered dreamlike experiences where
[29:02] Speaker 1: it seemed like you were in some kind of training session,
[29:05] Speaker 1: you were training for battle or something like that.
[29:09] Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I believe that I've been on
[29:12] Speaker 2: all these missions and stuff like that, because one time
[29:17] Speaker 2: I had a guy, it was really really I had
[29:18] Speaker 2: a guy somebody, and I don't remember. This guy messaged
[29:22] Speaker 2: me something on messenger and it was there and it
[29:25] Speaker 2: was gone. It was really really weird. I had one
[29:27] Speaker 2: thing happen like that. But anyways, I've been I've been
[29:30] Speaker 2: through many, many, many battles like that, and some of
[29:33] Speaker 2: them remember some of them I don't. But I remember
[29:35] Speaker 2: flying all these different crafts and some of them looked
[29:38] Speaker 2: like they don't look around. That's not the kind of
[29:41] Speaker 2: stuff that you know, most people would fly like that.
[29:44] Speaker 2: They look like a like a spaceship, you know. And
[29:47] Speaker 2: they have some art drawings that are getting pretty close
[29:50] Speaker 2: to what I've flown before, but something close to Star
[29:55] Speaker 2: Wars type stuff, close but not exactly, you know, they
[29:59] Speaker 2: look a little different than that. But there's some renditions
[30:02] Speaker 2: that are out there now that people are drawing up
[30:05] Speaker 2: some kind of futuristic stuff that look pretty close to
[30:07] Speaker 2: what we've flown before. And I remember going through one
[30:10] Speaker 2: on one time when there was a lady sitting next
[30:12] Speaker 2: to me and she was in training, and so we
[30:14] Speaker 2: took off straight up, elevated and then we took straight off,
[30:17] Speaker 2: but there was like some kind of wires or something
[30:20] Speaker 2: like that in a way, or something was in a way,
[30:23] Speaker 2: and she goes, oh my gosh, we're going to hit
[30:25] Speaker 2: those things, you know, we're going to crash. I said, no,
[30:26] Speaker 2: we're going to go straight through it. And we went
[30:28] Speaker 2: straight through it.
[30:29] Speaker 1: Another thing about the experience is that most people express
[30:34] Speaker 1: is they're more than dream like. They seem to be
[30:38] Speaker 1: very consistent in the atmosphere, in the people that you
[30:43] Speaker 1: interact with, in some of the things that you come across.
[30:47] Speaker 1: It seems to be very consistent and not dream like
[30:51] Speaker 1: where things are constantly shifting into something else.
[30:55] Speaker 2: Right, So let me explain something to you. We're made
[30:58] Speaker 2: up of a body and soul. Right, you follow me? Yeah,
[31:04] Speaker 2: you're made up, but you are made up. You and
[31:05] Speaker 2: I are made up of a body, spirit and soul.
[31:09] Speaker 2: When you die, what happens to your body? It stays behind, right, okay,
[31:16] Speaker 2: But you have a spirit and soul that goes somewhere.
[31:19] Speaker 2: So who's to say that they don't have the ability
[31:21] Speaker 2: to come and take our spirit and soul to do
[31:23] Speaker 2: something with it, right and put inside of another body.
[31:26] Speaker 2: We don't know that. I mean, we don't know exactly
[31:28] Speaker 2: what they can do. And that's I believe that's what's happening,
[31:31] Speaker 2: is they're able to come and take our spirit and
[31:33] Speaker 2: our soul out of our body. But when we come
[31:36] Speaker 2: back to our body, our spirit and soul is still
[31:37] Speaker 2: being attacked, and it's still we're still doing things with it. Now,
[31:42] Speaker 2: how do they do that? I have no idea. My brain.
[31:46] Speaker 1: Well, this isn't the first time I've heard this. I've
[31:48] Speaker 1: had so many different people that have claimed the very
[31:52] Speaker 1: same experiences. Many times, when they go to sleep, they
[31:56] Speaker 1: will be brought to these profound realms and have these
[32:00] Speaker 1: simulated experiences, but they are very real at the time,
[32:04] Speaker 1: and they come back as very real memories. Lately, people
[32:09] Speaker 1: have been bringing up their experiences with the Gate program,
[32:14] Speaker 1: the Gifted and Talented, and there seems to be some
[32:17] Speaker 1: strange connections with that and intelligence operations, recruiting for intelligence operations,
[32:25] Speaker 1: recruiting for flying craft psychic abilities. But there seems to
[32:30] Speaker 1: be a deeper layer where people might be able to
[32:34] Speaker 1: access this on their own, or they may have some
[32:38] Speaker 1: kind of other connection to the experiences.
[32:42] Speaker 2: Well, I believe that some of us are doing that
[32:44] Speaker 2: now and the government just well they know about it
[32:48] Speaker 2: or not. I don't know, maybe they have, but there's
[32:51] Speaker 2: something out there that's coming to getting us in there
[32:53] Speaker 2: doing these things. And like I said, I mean, just
[32:56] Speaker 2: one of the people that's the aliens. We would call them,
[33:02] Speaker 2: is the Alurians. You know that that's one species that's
[33:05] Speaker 2: contacted me other than I haven't had a whole lot
[33:08] Speaker 2: of contact with other ones, uh, other than them come
[33:10] Speaker 2: and just using my what I would say, my spirit,
[33:13] Speaker 2: my soul, because unless I put a camera in my
[33:16] Speaker 2: room at night and see if they come and get me,
[33:19] Speaker 2: they may come and get my whole body. I don't know,
[33:21] Speaker 2: you know, but that's one of the things that I've
[33:23] Speaker 2: had many experiences with. Hard to conceive, hard to hard
[33:27] Speaker 2: to believe, but it is what it is, you know,
[33:30] Speaker 2: I mean, And that's one of the things that I
[33:32] Speaker 2: don't try to figure it out no more. You know,
[33:34] Speaker 2: when I was talking to the Sasquatch and they were
[33:36] Speaker 2: explaining a lot of things to me, and said, it's
[33:37] Speaker 2: not what you believe, it's what you're willing to accept,
[33:40] Speaker 2: just except that there's a lot of things happening out
[33:43] Speaker 2: there that we can't comprehend, you know. And if in
[33:46] Speaker 2: many interviews, if you've done you've probably seen the whole
[33:48] Speaker 2: way more than heard more than what I what I've seen,
[33:51] Speaker 2: you know, I try to concentrate on just I don't
[33:54] Speaker 2: even do I don't even get into the big ufo
[33:56] Speaker 2: stuff and everything like that. I just stayed with the
[33:58] Speaker 2: sasquatch and a dog man the cryptids, and so we've
[34:02] Speaker 2: seen a lot of stuff like that, you know. Recently.
[34:05] Speaker 2: One of the recent things happened to me, just very
[34:07] Speaker 2: recently was I was sitting there and actually doing some
[34:13] Speaker 2: research and stuff at night in my campra. But I
[34:15] Speaker 2: left one of my blinds open. Normally closed all my
[34:17] Speaker 2: blinds at night, and I cut off the lights off
[34:20] Speaker 2: stuff like that, and sure enough, I get this bright
[34:23] Speaker 2: light shining inside my camper, and I'm like, what in
[34:25] Speaker 2: the world somebody out there riding a food or something,
[34:28] Speaker 2: you know. But I didn't hear anything. And I look
[34:30] Speaker 2: up and there's this one light and it's just sitting
[34:32] Speaker 2: there looking at me. Then it goes dim and it
[34:34] Speaker 2: looks at me again, and sure enough, it's a bigfoot,
[34:38] Speaker 2: you know. And so I began to look at like that,
[34:41] Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I see this other one.
[34:43] Speaker 2: Then those two lights go out, and I seen just
[34:45] Speaker 2: this round ball. So I got my camp I got
[34:49] Speaker 2: my phone out. I start taking pictures, right, but there's
[34:51] Speaker 2: this one I have a picture of a hand just
[34:53] Speaker 2: like this holding a white ball, and I'm like, I see,
[35:00] Speaker 2: how do you how do you explain?
[35:01] Speaker 1: Was it a hairy hand like a sasquatch hand?
[35:04] Speaker 2: It was just two fingers like this. I'll send it.
[35:06] Speaker 2: I've seen the pictures. You can post them later if
[35:07] Speaker 2: you want. Yeah, And there were big fingers because I mean,
[35:11] Speaker 2: I'm you gotta figure it. It's probably one hundred yards
[35:13] Speaker 2: away and I'm taking this thing and it showed up
[35:16] Speaker 2: on the camera, you know, and I tried to filter
[35:18] Speaker 2: it out and do some things with it, and I
[35:20] Speaker 2: caught some things in the background, which so I thought
[35:22] Speaker 2: were some other beans and stuff like that. But yeah, man,
[35:25] Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty crazy. You know. There's stuff that
[35:28] Speaker 2: happens up there, and there's things that I see, but
[35:29] Speaker 2: that that's just one of them that happened. Yeah, And
[35:31] Speaker 2: of my buddies came with me and I began to
[35:34] Speaker 2: show him how to look for UFOs and stuff like
[35:36] Speaker 2: that at night. So it's funny the time of you
[35:37] Speaker 2: you know, it's hot, I mean it's hot. So we
[35:39] Speaker 2: got three fans going, got the centronella candles, going in
[35:42] Speaker 2: a in a bug buster over there, bug like going
[35:45] Speaker 2: to get all the mosquitoes off and everything. So we're
[35:47] Speaker 2: sitting back in the chairs and I begin to I said,
[35:50] Speaker 2: let your eyes adjust. Let's give it about fifteen minutes
[35:52] Speaker 2: to adjusting all that. So he said, okay. So we're
[35:55] Speaker 2: sitting there watching and sure enough, I said, you see
[35:58] Speaker 2: those lights coming over. Look like just a la the light,
[36:01] Speaker 2: I said. He said, yeah. I said that that's the UFOs.
[36:03] Speaker 2: They said, okay. I said, you see these other things
[36:05] Speaker 2: coming across. They got a white light and they might
[36:08] Speaker 2: have a green and a red light with it flashing.
[36:11] Speaker 2: That's the planes, says that, don't pay attention to them.
[36:13] Speaker 2: I said, if you put that app on your phone
[36:15] Speaker 2: and you can see what flights are coming over. He says, oh, okay.
[36:18] Speaker 2: So we start looking at it. Then all of a sudden,
[36:20] Speaker 2: we see this one. Two lights real kind of far
[36:24] Speaker 2: apart from meship, but they're directly in line with each other.
[36:27] Speaker 2: I said, oh my gosh, that it looks like a tube,
[36:29] Speaker 2: like a cigar. So it begins to come over. So
[36:31] Speaker 2: when I do so, I said, pay attention real close.
[36:33] Speaker 2: He said why. I said, look through the stars like
[36:36] Speaker 2: we're the stars are between us and that thing that's coming.
[36:39] Speaker 2: I said, look and see if the stars disappeared when
[36:41] Speaker 2: it flies over. Sure enough, it comes over and there's
[36:44] Speaker 2: a light in the front and a light in the back.
[36:46] Speaker 2: But this thing is shaped like a cigar and it
[36:48] Speaker 2: comes directly over. It's like that, And I said, there
[36:51] Speaker 2: you go. He's like, what in the world. I said, yep.
[36:54] Speaker 2: And all of a sudden he looks to the left
[36:56] Speaker 2: and he said, look, there's some lights over there. Well,
[36:58] Speaker 2: sure enough, it's the big Foot coming out about eleven
[37:01] Speaker 2: o'clock at night. They walking through the property over there.
[37:04] Speaker 1: They emit light.
[37:05] Speaker 2: The Bigfoot's emit light from the ball from their eyes. Yes. Wow,
[37:12] Speaker 2: that's how they do it. So if you look at
[37:14] Speaker 2: my glasses right here, it'll look like this. But lights
[37:17] Speaker 2: either one aisle shine or maybe both aisles are shine,
[37:20] Speaker 2: and what it is the lights are shine. But if
[37:22] Speaker 2: you look real closely, if you can get a good
[37:24] Speaker 2: enough picture of it, the light actually comes from inside
[37:27] Speaker 2: their head and it looks like a tube, which is crazy.
[37:31] Speaker 1: There's an unfortunate mindset within a lot of the paranormal
[37:37] Speaker 1: conspiracy community, believing that all of this, all of these beings,
[37:43] Speaker 1: everything that we encounter, that we can't explain our demons period.
[37:47] Speaker 1: They won't hear any argument about it. I think it's
[37:51] Speaker 1: a very closed minded and unfortunate view to have about
[37:54] Speaker 1: these experiences, because in my perspective, they can all exist
[37:58] Speaker 1: within God's king. I don't see why just because it
[38:04] Speaker 1: being isn't understood it has to be evil. But what
[38:09] Speaker 1: would you tell those people that just want to look
[38:13] Speaker 1: at all of this as demonic and evil?
[38:16] Speaker 2: I would say no, no, and I'll tell you why.
[38:20] Speaker 2: So I grew up and I was a Christian all
[38:21] Speaker 2: my life and everything. But if you if you study
[38:23] Speaker 2: God's word and to read it, a demon is a spirit.
[38:27] Speaker 2: Now can it take on take on things? And it
[38:29] Speaker 2: go inside of a body? You know, when Jesus was
[38:32] Speaker 2: trying to cast the demons out of this one god
[38:35] Speaker 2: they called Legion, remember that, And the Bible talks about theys.
[38:38] Speaker 2: You go cast all the demons out of them. They said, don't,
[38:41] Speaker 2: don't put us somewhere else, put us in the pigs.
[38:44] Speaker 2: Well then you put them in the pigs, and they
[38:45] Speaker 2: ran off a cliff and fell into the water, you know.
[38:49] Speaker 2: And so anyways, a demon has to have a it's
[38:52] Speaker 2: a spirit, it has to have a host. And so
[38:58] Speaker 2: you got all these other creatures that are there, They've
[39:00] Speaker 2: been there before. And if you go back and look it,
[39:03] Speaker 2: don't look at your newer Bibles because they don't have
[39:04] Speaker 2: all that any go look at the older Bibles and
[39:06] Speaker 2: they talk about things that are that are over there.
[39:09] Speaker 2: And in fact, I started, you know, being a Christian.
[39:11] Speaker 2: I got a book that's called the Lost Books of
[39:12] Speaker 2: the Bible, and I got it and started reading all
[39:15] Speaker 2: the stuff other stuff you know that's out there. Because
[39:17] Speaker 2: if you a lot of Christians are closed minded, and
[39:20] Speaker 2: I was one at one time. I mean, I'll tell
[39:22] Speaker 2: you one hundred percent I was. I'm not like that anymore.
[39:24] Speaker 2: In fact, it's hard for me to find a church
[39:26] Speaker 2: to go to, me and my wife because we've seen
[39:27] Speaker 2: so much. You know, under saying. I'm saying, we want
[39:29] Speaker 2: to be good people, we want to interact with Christians.
[39:32] Speaker 2: But the problem is, like you're saying, they're closed minded
[39:35] Speaker 2: and you can't go to Sunday school class and talk
[39:37] Speaker 2: about stuff we talked about. Okay, just I'm not going
[39:39] Speaker 2: to happen. They're going to kick you out anyway, so
[39:42] Speaker 2: why even go, you know. So that's why I look
[39:43] Speaker 2: at it. But anyways, I've got to that point. I'm sorry,
[39:48] Speaker 2: but it's it's the truth.
[39:49] Speaker 1: You've even read scriptures and read the Bible to these beings, right, Yes, So.
[39:54] Speaker 2: What I do is that, like I said, I was
[39:56] Speaker 2: actually at night, I was looking. I was actually doing
[39:58] Speaker 2: a cross reference by I will study of these creatures
[40:01] Speaker 2: and all these things, and all of a sudden they
[40:03] Speaker 2: show up, you know. So anyways, I do a lot
[40:06] Speaker 2: of cross reference and stuff like that because it's the
[40:08] Speaker 2: only thing I have a scale to go to or
[40:10] Speaker 2: something to go by, is my background and stuff like that.
[40:13] Speaker 2: So anyways, going back to the spiritual thing is we
[40:17] Speaker 2: are a body, spirit, and soul. Right, there's a lot
[40:19] Speaker 2: of spirits out there, but they don't have a soul,
[40:22] Speaker 2: they don't have a body, so they're trying to find
[40:24] Speaker 2: a host. And so that's what the demons are. The
[40:27] Speaker 2: demons are trying to find a host to go into.
[40:29] Speaker 2: They control you, then control your mind. I've seen some
[40:31] Speaker 2: people that pretty whacked out before. I think they were
[40:33] Speaker 2: demon possessed before. But you can also get those things
[40:37] Speaker 2: removed from you too. But you know, as far as
[40:40] Speaker 2: those things shape shifting and doing all that, and know
[40:42] Speaker 2: there's something else they're not a demon. I'm sorry, but
[40:46] Speaker 2: you got to go back and read your scripture and
[40:48] Speaker 2: get you Bible and go and read all that stuff
[40:50] Speaker 2: and find out what it is, because they have to
[40:52] Speaker 2: have a host to go into. And so if you
[40:54] Speaker 2: go look in the Old Testament, and I was doing
[40:56] Speaker 2: one on trying to think that the key it was,
[41:00] Speaker 2: and I think it was in the Book of Daniel.
[41:02] Speaker 2: What this one guy turns into what we would call
[41:06] Speaker 2: a dog man or a werewolf. And so it's in
[41:10] Speaker 2: the Bible and King Nebuchaezer's what it is. If you
[41:14] Speaker 2: go read that story in the Book of Daniel, I
[41:16] Speaker 2: don't say it's Daniel six that my mind, you know,
[41:20] Speaker 2: recats what I was last time I was reading, and
[41:22] Speaker 2: that's what I was referenced to, was that stuff right there.
[41:25] Speaker 2: And sure enough, this guy gets They said his hair
[41:30] Speaker 2: was so thick, that was like feathers, and that's thick hair. Okay.
[41:34] Speaker 2: Then his claws began to grow. He was still in
[41:37] Speaker 2: the shape of a man, but he became what we
[41:40] Speaker 2: would call a bigfoot, a dog man or something like that.
[41:43] Speaker 1: You know.
[41:44] Speaker 2: He went around eating grass and so there was a
[41:46] Speaker 2: there was a curse that was put upon him. By
[41:48] Speaker 2: God and that's what happened. So getting back to do
[41:52] Speaker 2: I believe that. No, I'm sorry, but that's that's not true.
[41:56] Speaker 2: All these other things are creations, but you know, there's
[41:59] Speaker 2: something that got created, but it's it's just it's not
[42:05] Speaker 2: a demon. I'm sorry. Demons. Demons are a spirit, that's
[42:08] Speaker 2: what they are. So sorry.
[42:10] Speaker 1: Have you still been gifting the sasquatch and other forest
[42:15] Speaker 1: beings communicating with the little jicks things of that nature.
[42:19] Speaker 2: I'll give them little things like that, you know, just
[42:22] Speaker 2: little stuff, and it's like if I have breakfast left
[42:24] Speaker 2: over something like that, I'll put that out there right.
[42:26] Speaker 2: And I think that's the other reason why they come around.
[42:28] Speaker 2: You know, I don't give them a whole lot of
[42:29] Speaker 2: stuff because I don't want them. I've had some experience
[42:33] Speaker 2: where they actually came inside my camper and stuff and
[42:35] Speaker 2: kind of don't want to go into that. Yeah, they
[42:37] Speaker 2: came inside the camp and done some things, but I
[42:39] Speaker 2: don't want to go into that too much because it's
[42:41] Speaker 2: it gets kind of personal.
[42:42] Speaker 1: Then.
[42:42] Speaker 2: But they yeah, they they come in and start touching
[42:45] Speaker 2: you stuff like that, moving you know. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[42:48] Speaker 2: you cannot come inside my camper. But there again, you
[42:52] Speaker 2: know they're they're a spiritual being too, and so you
[42:55] Speaker 2: know I've had all that and that they don't like lights,
[42:58] Speaker 2: so I cut the lights out. So they do come around,
[43:00] Speaker 2: feel welcome and stuff like that. But as far as them,
[43:05] Speaker 2: they come right up, like I say, basically come right
[43:07] Speaker 2: up to my camp and stuff. Think last time I
[43:09] Speaker 2: was there, they were throwing rocks at the front door,
[43:11] Speaker 2: like they want me to come outside, but it's like, look,
[43:13] Speaker 2: I'm tired. I've been working hard up here.
[43:15] Speaker 1: Do you think they have the ability to affect our
[43:17] Speaker 1: perception in a way that we see them as something else,
[43:21] Speaker 1: like a tree or a bush.
[43:27] Speaker 2: I think they have a way of cloaking to blend in. Okay,
[43:31] Speaker 2: But I've heard people say that they turned from a
[43:34] Speaker 2: sasquatch to a deer. That's a shape shifter. Yeah, so
[43:38] Speaker 2: I've heard that before, but I've never seen it. I
[43:41] Speaker 2: can only talk about things that i've seen, and the
[43:43] Speaker 2: things that I have seen were them cloaking, run across
[43:48] Speaker 2: like a ghost. I had a shooting lane one time,
[43:50] Speaker 2: and they ran across. They were just going across like that,
[43:54] Speaker 2: and it looked just like my finger like that. You
[43:55] Speaker 2: see that blur, That's what it looked like. And that's
[43:58] Speaker 2: what I seen, was run across the My god, I
[44:01] Speaker 2: am I seeing ghost out here? What because where we
[44:03] Speaker 2: hunt at was heavily you know, involved in the Civil Wars,
[44:08] Speaker 2: heavily involved with training the World War Two. There was
[44:12] Speaker 2: Indian reservations and stuff around there. The what is that
[44:16] Speaker 2: up there? I'm trying which Indians it is? But anyways,
[44:19] Speaker 2: American Indians are all up in there, you know, and
[44:22] Speaker 2: so there's a lot of spiritual things that are going on.
[44:24] Speaker 2: Plus there are some barrel sites, you know, in the
[44:27] Speaker 2: in the Kazaki National Forest too, and they don't they
[44:29] Speaker 2: don't lie you go to fool with that stuff. You know,
[44:31] Speaker 2: you're not supposed to take stuff from there either. But anyways,
[44:36] Speaker 2: uh yeah, I mean they can, they can mess with
[44:38] Speaker 2: your perception, but what they do is they blend in.
[44:41] Speaker 2: So what I tell people, I said, when you look
[44:43] Speaker 2: just like you're looking at me, always look for the
[44:45] Speaker 2: eyes first. Look for the eyes. Didn't look for a face.
[44:48] Speaker 2: You mightn't see half a face like this around a
[44:50] Speaker 2: tree or something and come around the tree and looking.
[44:52] Speaker 2: And I always look next to a tree up in
[44:54] Speaker 2: a tree. So one of the last times my wife
[44:57] Speaker 2: came up there was in the spring. She hadn't been
[44:59] Speaker 2: back since, but she was inside making breakfast up. So
[45:02] Speaker 2: I went outside and drinking my coffee, sitting and share.
[45:04] Speaker 2: So it was pretty probably in the seventies, you know,
[45:06] Speaker 2: so that's nice, low seventies, high sixties. And I look
[45:10] Speaker 2: over and there was a fork of this tree. In
[45:13] Speaker 2: the fork of this tree, there's this being standing there
[45:16] Speaker 2: just holding on looking like this. I said, you've got
[45:19] Speaker 2: to be kidding, so sure enough to look over there,
[45:22] Speaker 2: and I took the picture. But when I zoomed in,
[45:24] Speaker 2: I seen a bunch more on the ground around there.
[45:27] Speaker 2: So I sent it to some other people and stuff
[45:29] Speaker 2: like that. You know, I've done interviews and stuff, and
[45:30] Speaker 2: I showed them. Says, oh yeah, man, you got about
[45:32] Speaker 2: four or five of them right there. I say, yep,
[45:34] Speaker 2: all dog men. So they're able to blend in so
[45:37] Speaker 2: well that. You know, I've heard of people saying like
[45:40] Speaker 2: they shape shift and stuff, but I've never seen them
[45:42] Speaker 2: do that personally. I have seen them appear out of nowhere.
[45:46] Speaker 2: That's that's number one I've seen that I've seen. There
[45:49] Speaker 2: was nothing there and alsinators is there?
[45:51] Speaker 1: You know, so I've heard rare accounts of these beings
[45:54] Speaker 1: being aggressive and actually attacking people. In fact, I've only
[45:58] Speaker 1: heard one or two accounts of actual physical attacks on people.
[46:03] Speaker 1: It seems that most of them are more curious than dangerous.
[46:08] Speaker 1: They'll sit there and observe you and watch you from
[46:10] Speaker 1: a distance, but the aggression factor rarely comes in. Maybe
[46:14] Speaker 1: if you're in fringing on their territory a bit much,
[46:18] Speaker 1: they may start showing some aggression, but they seem more
[46:21] Speaker 1: curious than anything.
[46:24] Speaker 2: Well, I haven't had any experiences like that, And aly
[46:27] Speaker 2: thing I've ever had was threatened was the dog Man.
[46:29] Speaker 2: That's because he thought I was gonna shoot him. And
[46:32] Speaker 2: we have had that interview before where I was in
[46:35] Speaker 2: my hunting stand and I picked up my rifle to
[46:38] Speaker 2: look and see what it was because they were too
[46:40] Speaker 2: far off, and I actually send the Bigfoot and I
[46:42] Speaker 2: seen the dog man together and they were standing and
[46:44] Speaker 2: a dog man mine spoke to me. That's when everything
[46:47] Speaker 2: transferred and said, hey, put that gun down, I'm going
[46:50] Speaker 2: to come over there and kill you. I'm going to
[46:52] Speaker 2: tear the build them up and kill you. What he
[46:53] Speaker 2: told me exactly what he told me, and the Bigfoot
[46:56] Speaker 2: told him, said, he's just looking at us. Well, how
[46:58] Speaker 2: did he know my finger was on the side the
[47:00] Speaker 2: gun down on the trigger. But he knew that they
[47:02] Speaker 2: are to read your mind, and it can also they
[47:05] Speaker 2: can also affect your emotions. Because the dog man began
[47:10] Speaker 2: to make me feel like like I was fear. He
[47:13] Speaker 2: put a spirit of fear was on me, like some
[47:15] Speaker 2: emotion of fear was on me. And then the Bigfoot
[47:18] Speaker 2: conquered that right right immediately and calmed me down this
[47:21] Speaker 2: love and peace and joy, love, peace and joy, and said, hey,
[47:24] Speaker 2: you're gonna be okay, said, he said, leave him alone.
[47:26] Speaker 2: He's not trying to her, he's just looking at us,
[47:28] Speaker 2: you know. So you know then they can do those
[47:31] Speaker 2: type of things to you. As far as physically hurting me,
[47:34] Speaker 2: I've never been. They thrown rocks and sticks, And last
[47:38] Speaker 2: time I was hunting, one of them came over there
[47:40] Speaker 2: and threw sticks. They started. I was in a leaning
[47:43] Speaker 2: tube and I was sitting up high, you know, and
[47:44] Speaker 2: open open airs up and a leaning to what do
[47:46] Speaker 2: you call leaning tube? What is a ladder? And you
[47:48] Speaker 2: have like a seat and you go sit down, you
[47:50] Speaker 2: put your rifle down till you see a deer and
[47:51] Speaker 2: you pick it up and you start, you know, taking
[47:53] Speaker 2: a deer. But anyways, I begin to see these sticks
[47:57] Speaker 2: about fifteen feet away, boom stick fell. I'm seeing squirrels
[48:01] Speaker 2: runn all around me in feet I'm thinking it's a squirrel.
[48:03] Speaker 2: Then also not a stick about ten foot away, then
[48:07] Speaker 2: five foot away, then right at the base of my
[48:11] Speaker 2: dear stand. I said, hold on it enough, I said,
[48:14] Speaker 2: don't throw any more sticks. So I don't know where
[48:17] Speaker 2: and there where you are what you're doing, but don't
[48:19] Speaker 2: throw any more sticks. Have you Have you seen that
[48:21] Speaker 2: footage in South Carolina where this guy sees all these
[48:24] Speaker 2: limbs breaking and they're falling down and stuff like that
[48:27] Speaker 2: in his backyard.
[48:29] Speaker 1: I might have it sounds familiar.
[48:31] Speaker 2: Okay, you gotta go look that up. They're cloaking in there.
[48:34] Speaker 2: You can't see them, right, yes, okay, so they're just
[48:38] Speaker 2: breaking off limbs and these things are come these guys going,
[48:40] Speaker 2: what in the world is that? I've looked at that
[48:43] Speaker 2: I don't know how many times, twenty thirty times, and
[48:48] Speaker 2: you can't see them in there. In fact, I don't
[48:50] Speaker 2: see them at all. I see them. I see them
[48:53] Speaker 2: bending and breaking things, and I see that coming down,
[48:55] Speaker 2: but I do not see them physically.
[48:58] Speaker 1: He said. They actually came into your home started messing
[49:02] Speaker 1: with things. Were you able to draw some boundary lines
[49:06] Speaker 1: there and get them to stop doing that?
[49:09] Speaker 2: Yes, you have to tell them to stop. And what
[49:11] Speaker 2: they do is here's what they do. When I first
[49:13] Speaker 2: had my experience, stuff they would They had one it
[49:16] Speaker 2: dropped off twins one time. And what they did was
[49:19] Speaker 2: they came and they put these twins inside the house
[49:21] Speaker 2: and they actually live inside the house with you. And
[49:24] Speaker 2: the pets go crazy at first, but but finally they
[49:27] Speaker 2: get used to them being in there. Okay, And like
[49:30] Speaker 2: I said, they able to go invisible and do all
[49:33] Speaker 2: those things. Well, one time I was going going to
[49:37] Speaker 2: work and one of them came real fast and was
[49:41] Speaker 2: following me down, ran down with me down the steps,
[49:43] Speaker 2: going down down the stairs in it and I have
[49:46] Speaker 2: wooden steps, I don't have a carpet or anything on them,
[49:48] Speaker 2: and just left them like that. But anything, they knocked
[49:50] Speaker 2: my feet out from under me and I hit on
[49:52] Speaker 2: my back damp bam, bam bam, and went and it
[49:54] Speaker 2: really I thought, well at the time, my back didn't hurt,
[49:58] Speaker 2: but my leg did because as I landed on my
[50:00] Speaker 2: leg every time, and I knew for sure it was broken.
[50:03] Speaker 2: When I got to the bottom, I was screaming, houling.
[50:05] Speaker 2: I tell them, she said, do I need a car
[50:06] Speaker 2: now one one? I said, not yet, I said, but
[50:08] Speaker 2: it feels like it's broken. For a milli second, listen
[50:11] Speaker 2: to me for a millisecond, I've seen both of them,
[50:13] Speaker 2: and they were just just stand there like this, like
[50:16] Speaker 2: both of them just stand there looking at me, you know.
[50:18] Speaker 2: And I said, y'all need to get out of here.
[50:20] Speaker 2: And I told their mother, I said, come and get them,
[50:22] Speaker 2: Come and get them and take them out of here.
[50:24] Speaker 2: So they've hurt me now, And all of a sudden,
[50:26] Speaker 2: she showed up. Okay, I could see her. She showed
[50:29] Speaker 2: up and see a silla whatever. She showed up and
[50:30] Speaker 2: took them, you know, to another rim or how you
[50:33] Speaker 2: say that. Then she came back. Here's a funny thing,
[50:36] Speaker 2: you say, they hurts you. That was an accident. Okay,
[50:39] Speaker 2: Now she came back and she actually laid her hands
[50:42] Speaker 2: on my leg. Within a few seconds, my leg was healed. Really,
[50:47] Speaker 2: my leg was completely healed. Now the problem is my back.
[50:52] Speaker 2: My back is healed, so my back is jacked up,
[50:55] Speaker 2: and so I've had to go since twenty seventeen, I've
[50:57] Speaker 2: had to actually go and have shot in my back
[51:00] Speaker 2: and all that. But for whatever reason, they don't come
[51:02] Speaker 2: and heal my back. I don't know why, but maybe
[51:05] Speaker 2: she thought that was the only thing that was messed
[51:06] Speaker 2: up on me or whatever. But I've had experiences like that,
[51:09] Speaker 2: like You'll be sleeping in the bed and all sudden
[51:12] Speaker 2: something just moves you. You ever had that happen before, Yeah,
[51:19] Speaker 2: So it's like something just push me, you know, like
[51:22] Speaker 2: like when you were a kids. You you see somebody
[51:24] Speaker 2: sleeping something, you run up to push them and wake
[51:26] Speaker 2: them up, run off and stuff like that. Okay, so
[51:28] Speaker 2: that's what they did to me before. And then they
[51:30] Speaker 2: would do just different things like that. Are they coming
[51:33] Speaker 2: take the covers off of me? I'll get ready to
[51:34] Speaker 2: go to work. When I was working, and they would
[51:37] Speaker 2: come and take my keys and hide them. I couldn't
[51:40] Speaker 2: find them. Say looky'll look, I ain't got enough time
[51:42] Speaker 2: for this playing around. Y'all. Gott to put my keys back.
[51:44] Speaker 2: All seen, you go, look for it, it's right there.
[51:47] Speaker 2: You come back, and it's right there where it's supposed
[51:48] Speaker 2: to be at you know, because I'll put my keys,
[51:51] Speaker 2: my wallet, cell phone, you know, everything right there when
[51:54] Speaker 2: I get ready to go, pick it up and go.
[51:55] Speaker 2: Because we've been through this a bunch of times, and
[51:58] Speaker 2: it's like, y'all need to stop playing, you know, I
[52:00] Speaker 2: got to go to work. Well, now they don't really
[52:02] Speaker 2: hide too many things that much anymore, you know. But
[52:06] Speaker 2: I haven't had that much experience with them coming inside
[52:09] Speaker 2: the house anymore now, you know. But yet early on
[52:13] Speaker 2: that was on. That's when they would come and spend
[52:15] Speaker 2: time talking to me and stuff like that and explain
[52:17] Speaker 2: it to me about different things. I would ask all
[52:19] Speaker 2: kind of crazy questions. I'd ask them, can you levitate? Yeah,
[52:22] Speaker 2: you can do that. I said, what about going inside
[52:24] Speaker 2: and in and outside of portals and stuff like that.
[52:27] Speaker 2: I said, well, it'd be easier for you to levitate
[52:29] Speaker 2: than it would be for to learn how to levitate.
[52:31] Speaker 2: Then it would be for you to go in and
[52:34] Speaker 2: out of portals, and said, it does something to your
[52:35] Speaker 2: body when you do that every time you do it.
[52:38] Speaker 2: So I'm like wow. So I said, physically we can
[52:40] Speaker 2: go on out me and said, yeah, you can do that.
[52:42] Speaker 2: I'm like wow, I said, okay, So, but makes you
[52:45] Speaker 2: wonder about these people are going inside these portals and
[52:48] Speaker 2: these National Force stuff like that, and they disappearing right,
[52:51] Speaker 2: maybere not able to come back out or something. You know,
[52:54] Speaker 2: it's a lot of disappearances that if you're looking at uh,
[52:57] Speaker 2: you know, different people and stuff like that. Some people
[52:59] Speaker 2: don't believe and all that. And I said, well, I
[53:02] Speaker 2: like I tell people out there, is that you know,
[53:04] Speaker 2: I was born again Christian. Didn't believe it knowing this
[53:06] Speaker 2: stuff until it started happening to me. And when it
[53:08] Speaker 2: started happened to me, it's like you have to experience
[53:11] Speaker 2: it first, right, And that's allthing I can tell you.
[53:13] Speaker 2: If you didn't, you haven't had experience. Me and my
[53:15] Speaker 2: wife can pick up on people who are experiencers and
[53:18] Speaker 2: non experiences like that.
[53:20] Speaker 1: As far as your wife has, she started to experience
[53:24] Speaker 1: more strangeness.
[53:26] Speaker 2: Now now the whole things she ever experided. It was funny.
[53:28] Speaker 2: I took her hunting, deer hunting, and she had experience
[53:32] Speaker 2: where she's seen a couple of little blue aliens and
[53:35] Speaker 2: she won't go by counting after that. Oh, she was
[53:37] Speaker 2: in a deer stand and she said, she said, these
[53:40] Speaker 2: two little things just walking through the woods like it
[53:41] Speaker 2: was nothing, walked up, looked at her, and then you know,
[53:45] Speaker 2: looked at looked at each other and looked at her,
[53:46] Speaker 2: and they ran off. I thought that was funny, and
[53:50] Speaker 2: I said, well, you didn't see any bigfoot or something
[53:53] Speaker 2: like that. She goes no. I said, you sure it
[53:55] Speaker 2: wasn't a small bigfoot. It was it, Harry, And she
[53:58] Speaker 2: said no, they weren't. They like two little little aliens.
[54:02] Speaker 2: I said, wow, that's crazy.
[54:04] Speaker 1: You think are always around just in that different density
[54:09] Speaker 1: or frequency or dimension however you want to call it.
[54:13] Speaker 1: But they're always somewhere around us.
[54:17] Speaker 2: Yes, always there. I think I think they are. I
[54:21] Speaker 2: think another thing is is, like some people have said,
[54:23] Speaker 2: I think they have the ability to go inside of
[54:26] Speaker 2: plants and trees and stuff like that. Then they get
[54:28] Speaker 2: their energy from that. Then they come out of the
[54:30] Speaker 2: plant or the tree, and then they're able to, you know,
[54:34] Speaker 2: do what they do. So I've heard this before. I've
[54:38] Speaker 2: even seen faces and trees just staring at me before,
[54:40] Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's crazy, but that's what they do.
[54:43] Speaker 2: You just got to accept it, you know, you believe
[54:45] Speaker 2: you just accept it that, Hey, they go inside of
[54:47] Speaker 2: a pine tree, or they go inside of an oak
[54:49] Speaker 2: tree or something like that, and that's that's what they do,
[54:53] Speaker 2: you know. And they have different markers and stuff like that.
[54:55] Speaker 2: I've seen the trees that are leaned over, stuff like that.
[55:00] Speaker 2: In fact, me and my cousin went to one era
[55:01] Speaker 2: had never been before, and we were actually scouting for
[55:03] Speaker 2: deer in the spring time and I looked down. I
[55:07] Speaker 2: seen two tracks. They had a small human looking footprint,
[55:11] Speaker 2: and then there was a dog man right next to it.
[55:13] Speaker 2: So I took a picture of it, and he started
[55:16] Speaker 2: looking at me and I said, uh, we was actually
[55:17] Speaker 2: on the side by side. We're riding around and stuff
[55:19] Speaker 2: like that. So we went to this one tree and
[55:22] Speaker 2: he said, well, how do were they bend these trees?
[55:24] Speaker 2: And I said, let me show you. I said, it's
[55:25] Speaker 2: very very strong. So you go up through the pine
[55:28] Speaker 2: tree and I said, do you see the regular bark?
[55:30] Speaker 2: He said yes. I said, do you see where the
[55:32] Speaker 2: handprint was where they actually took it and grabbed it
[55:35] Speaker 2: and they were bending it. I said, look, this is
[55:36] Speaker 2: about two or three feet apart right there, and I said,
[55:39] Speaker 2: you're not going to see any bark. Then go to
[55:41] Speaker 2: the next spot going up and I says, what that's
[55:43] Speaker 2: exactly what they do.
[55:45] Speaker 1: Last few minutes that we have. Is there any final
[55:49] Speaker 1: experiences or thoughts about what we talked.
[55:52] Speaker 2: About, I've got a whole bunch more, but we'll do
[55:55] Speaker 2: that another time. So that's sure. That'd be good for today.
[55:59] Speaker 1: So if people are interested, can they experience your campground?
[56:06] Speaker 2: Well, it's a private campground. But excuse me, it's a
[56:09] Speaker 2: private campground. It's by invitation only. But you know, it's
[56:13] Speaker 2: plenty places in the Kazati National Forest that you can
[56:15] Speaker 2: go up there and go camp and you can have
[56:17] Speaker 2: the same experiences and so just go to Kasatti National
[56:20] Speaker 2: Forest and look it up. But our campground is just
[56:25] Speaker 2: for families what it's for, you know, and by invitation only.
[56:28] Speaker 2: So if I know you, then you understand what I'm saying. Yeah,
[56:33] Speaker 2: that's it. So we made it private and it'd be
[56:36] Speaker 2: for some you know, if people want to experience bigfoot
[56:38] Speaker 2: stuff like that, well I'll have to know you first
[56:41] Speaker 2: because I just want to keep it private. You know
[56:43] Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
[56:44] Speaker 1: I understand.
[56:46] Speaker 2: Another thing is is people never had an experience like that.
[56:49] Speaker 2: I don't want them to freak out and stuff. If
[56:51] Speaker 2: they come right up to us, you know, and you
[56:56] Speaker 2: see an eight foot nine foot creature coming up to you,
[56:59] Speaker 2: and you ain't gonna know how to handle it, you know. So,
[57:01] Speaker 2: I mean I've been around this a while now, since
[57:03] Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and before, so I'll interact with them a lot,
[57:08] Speaker 2: so you know, I just keep your private. That's it. Yeah, Well,
[57:12] Speaker 2: thank you so much, Scott Man.
[57:14] Speaker 1: We will definitely have to do this again until next time. Everyone,
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