# The One About Doing vs. Trying with Carla Ondrasik

An episode of [The Papaya Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1469615517), 6 Oct 2025, 45 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67d1d79d288f047939256a91/e/68dd6b13d5c8a1f9b37f650d/media.mp3

In this conversation, Sarah and Carla Ondrasik delve into the concept of productivity and focusing on the importance of action over mere attempts. Carla shares her journey and insights on how the word 'try' can hinder progress and how embracing failure can lead to growth. They discuss the challenges of saying no and the significance of being true to oneself in the pursuit of goals. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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