# Road to the Trials

A podcast by Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim. Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials in St. Louis on March 25th, 2028.

Feed: https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/rss

## Latest episodes

- [Paxton Smith: From Miami Schoolteacher to Coaching 200 Runners and a Second Olympic Trials Qualification](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/90fae60872a0) (2026-10-26, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127797508/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-20%2F434607514-44100-2-0d5c5ed0d17f8.mp3
- [Benjamin Bayless: A 2:15 Marathon Debut, Race-Day Mistakes, and Chasing 2:10](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/1c598b5d2873) (2026-10-22, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127730098/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-19%2F434514066-44100-2-e16ccd288ab0f.mp3
- [Jackie Gaughan: Self-Coaching, 80/20 Training, and Learning to Race Again](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/970f6f5a45e5) (2026-10-19, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127696111/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-19%2F434468723-44100-2-e365b3cc8af6.mp3
- [Alex Price: Self-Coached to the Olympic Trials, One Water Cup at a Time](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/5cab7caa795e) (2026-10-14, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127487299/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-14%2F434187861-44100-2-35c1ecd111939.mp3
- [Diane Neubauer: 12 Seconds to Spare at CIM](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/791e4a0730fa) (2026-10-12, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127345126/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-12%2F433996173-44100-2-d38872e6b0967.mp3
- [Patrick Cullen is Chasing a 2:06 at the Chicago Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/1543e98fe339) (2026-10-09, 48 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/127202559/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-9%2F433809140-44100-2-473a82beca5f6.m4a
- [Ainsley Pressl: She Didn’t Think She Was Ready to OTQ](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/d48694cd34b3) (2026-10-05, 66 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/126259768/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-7%2F433550604-44100-2-8299e495c2efc.mp3
- [Anne-Marie Blaney: Racing to Win at Twin Cities](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/d858b32ebe8e) (2026-10-01, 49 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/126511591/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-30%2F433030330-44100-2-b7eff0d670ec9.mp3
- [Mitch Ammons: A 2:14 Breakthrough, Addiction, and Life Without Running](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/455693a4298e) (2026-09-28, 69 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/126421265/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-28%2F432835465-44100-2-5fb30f2a17fa8.mp3
- [Stephen Jones Is Having Way Too Much Fun Running 2:11](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/84b82f97151f) (2026-09-24, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/126194639/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-23%2F432512471-44100-2-1b672af3e403.mp3
- [Paige Wood: Taking the Pressure Off the Clock and Betting on Consistency](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/a4dd127bd4f9) (2026-09-21, 48 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/126075535/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-21%2F432351883-44100-2-941c39c41e698.mp3
- [Anna Benedettini: Three Marathon Starts, Two OTQs](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/67527fda7044) (2026-09-17, 53 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/125309434/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-7%2F431329467-44100-2-abcb2c59f9e19.mp3
- [Kodi Kleven on Leading Boston and Breaking 2:25](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/c8158c33c47a) (2026-09-14, 42 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/125306844/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-7%2F431325286-44100-2-0cf1123f8cfc9.mp3
- [Brooke Wildermuth Went From 4:11 to 2:35](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/a044c67494d3) (2026-09-10, 41 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/125496888/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-10%2F431571692-44100-2-4980e3e29fef6.mp3
- [Colin Bennie: Two Top-10 Olympic Trials Finishes and More in the Tank](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/50661781cef3) (2026-09-08, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/125183935/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-4%2F431158236-44100-2-ce8e761a0d755.mp3
- [Hillary Bor: From Olympic Steeplechaser to 2:08 Marathoner](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/6c9eb79d2404) (2026-09-03, 49 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/125112465/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-2%2F431071205-44100-2-3c6d7342967c9.mp3
- [Road to the Trials: The Road Ahead](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/06bc01420f0d) (2026-08-27, 10 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/124819170/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-27%2F183ff601-c07b-e85b-9f4b-406e1a2f7ba3.mp3
- [Sarah Czuprynski Went From a 4:04 Marathon to an OTQ](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/4a1bc7f708e1) (2026-08-17, 41 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/124202639/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-14%2F429818557-44100-2-ab379f2a5282e.mp3
- [Breanna Sieracki: Baby #3, Another Olympic Trials, and the Belief That Sub-2:30 Is Coming](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/dead30d799c7) (2026-08-13, 67 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/124188664/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-13%2F429798648-44100-2-bf7f0fadbbf6e.mp3
- [Carrie Ellwood’s Rise From First Grade Teacher to 2:22 Marathoner](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/8bb6a1d53fe5) (2026-08-10, 51 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123944709/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-8%2F429462963-44100-2-a5ac1f34a1b89.mp3
- [Patreon preview...](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/483e5498030a) (2026-08-08, 16 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123949688/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-8%2F952855ad-8fd0-24b2-e8ee-7a6d1fee0ea8.mp3
- [Murphy Smith Ran 2:08 in Just His Second Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/46d777645884) (2026-08-03, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123678530/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-3%2F429131051-44100-2-b1213e62a6719.mp3
- [Inside Robert Miranda's Breakthrough 2:09 Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/b6af6392abdb) (2026-07-30, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123527412/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-30%2F428896254-44100-2-036f5a88b6e66.mp3
- [From Walk-On to Boston PR: Charlie Sweeney's Road to the Trials](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/2e38d0fdf9a8) (2026-07-28, 69 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123424265/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-28%2F428756261-44100-2-33b104fd08008.mp3
- [How Rachel Schilkowsky Finally Solved the Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/9c48633fe754) (2026-07-21, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/123103159/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-21%2F428357356-44100-2-ddf9f5c7d5656.mp3
- [Lily Anderson: From Teaching in Brooklyn Classrooms to Brooklyn Track Club & an OTQ](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/800746c2ecff) (2026-07-16, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122913708/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-16%2F428065608-44100-2-f5d76f975826a.mp3
- [Andrew Colley Knows His Best Marathon Is Still Ahead](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/0ff693ce1bda) (2026-07-14, 72 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122817345/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-14%2Fd41aba15-3416-cd68-43fb-1cb5f34fea0c.mp3
- [Alex Burks: Three Breakthroughs at the Same Course, a 2:15 OTQ, and Why Running Is Still Fun](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/70ad442c70bf) (2026-07-09, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122554882/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-8%2F427584229-44100-2-1a467a6bbb4b.mp3
- [Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/cce208225c8a) (2026-07-07, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122482683/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-7%2F427515248-44100-2-c514b3cb708d1.mp3
- [Erin McDonald: Rediscovering Running and a 2:32 Marathon Breakthrough](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/0ecb1d047cb9) (2026-07-02, 49 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122209140/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-30%2F427123913-44100-2-05a5bd575f896.mp3
- [Ryan Smith: The Finish Line Reaction Everyone Was Talking About](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/97acc69f35fa) (2026-06-30, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/122170131/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-30%2F427069238-44100-2-a818445c5d8d6.mp3
- [Megan Connolly: The WWE Broadcaster Who Qualified for the Olympic Trials](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/71e53cf28cfe) (2026-06-25, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121983525/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-25%2F426824864-44100-2-55761c9c7f5c.mp3
- [Madey Dickson: From the Mile to a 2:28 Marathon and Learning to Take Risks](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/71148c9e3e12) (2026-06-22, 46 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121821277/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-22%2F426598104-44100-2-ac11f8a542f47.mp3
- [Annie Frisbie: A 2:22 Breakthrough and Another Boston Masterclass](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/c8ee1dfca142) (2026-06-18, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121525597/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-15%2F426205541-44100-2-bf9092110fb54.mp3
- [Erik Linden: Trusting the Process, Reinventing the Journey, and Running 2:12](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/52637f5f441a) (2026-06-15, 55 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121460346/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-14%2F426130015-44100-2-835fd39dd6701.mp3
- [Sarah Reiter: Three Olympic Trials, Staying Joyful, and Chasing Sub-2:30](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/1114684be235) (2026-06-11, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121329741/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-11%2F425941463-44100-2-db334ac7ef6f.mp3
- [Jax Siddall’s Marathon Debut Win: From 6th Grade Teacher to Eugene Marathon Win](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/e5989bf05da3) (2026-06-09, 46 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/121240252/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-9%2F425824643-44100-2-918d9d3c40231.mp3
- [Joey Whelan: 35 Marathons, 6 Course Records, and Still Finding Another Gear](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/2b8f149701af) (2026-06-04, 41 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120800604/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-1%2F425255174-44100-2-67a4ef6dd2c0e.mp3
- [Elena Hayday: From 2:30 to 2:24 at Boston and Chasing Something Bigger](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/f7acf64f57d9) (2026-06-01, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120763352/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-30%2F425200463-44100-2-d075ec00622b1.mp3
- [Amanda Martin on Winning Eugene and Learning How to Trust the Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/09dbbb232a69) (2026-05-28, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120662801/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-28%2F425052916-44100-2-121cc53c2181.mp3
- [Luke Maher: Inside Puma Project 3 and the Rise of the Sub-Elite Marathoner](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/1617014f1998) (2026-05-26, 46 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120529157/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-16%2F426269383-44100-2-2f45b053a1347.mp3
- [Aidan Reed: Chasing the Marathon While Falling in Love With the Half](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/d109903a1857) (2026-05-21, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120238154/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-19%2F424493069-44100-2-8e486d6013504.mp3
- [Andie Cozzarelli: A 14-Year Journey Back to the Olympic Trials](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/fd8522d2ac8f) (2026-05-18, 75 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/120139937/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-18%2F424355911-44100-2-16e54f6ec1043.mp3
- [Sean Grossman: Chasing the OTQ for 2,303 Days](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/a373c302ed8b) (2026-05-14, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119963962/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-14%2F424119857-44100-2-181d993b963de.mp3
- [Conner Peloquin: From Walking Away From the Sport to 2:15 and Back to the Trials](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/364f7e3a69b4) (2026-05-11, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119790467/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-11%2F423885829-44100-2-2b88b33c513d4.mp3
- [Hannah Rowe: Back to the Trials After Six Years and a Trail Detour](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/f27c4c105112) (2026-05-07, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119648359/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-7%2F423695966-44100-2-8cc9371048ecb.mp3
- [Mason Coppi: From Accomplished Trail Specialist to OTQ Surprise](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/44b3b0153d08) (2026-05-04, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119453228/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-16%2F426269770-44100-2-e8ae2de31d922.mp3
- [Caitlin Phillips: 4th Olympic Trials Qualifier, Longevity in the Marathon, and Returning to Racing as a Mother](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/e681659c3468) (2026-04-30, 48 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119263890/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-30%2F423168560-44100-2-d5bfabe8b8f9c.mp3
- [Brooke Starn: From Med School Miles to a 2:35 Olympic Trials Qualifier](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/7bb13f785720) (2026-04-27, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/119108957/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-27%2F422955081-44100-2-ffbfad77ac6cf.mp3
- [Annabel Stafford’s OTQ in her Debut Marathon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468827005/4e11050ffdb0) (2026-04-23, 49 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/bba0468/podcast/play/118895065/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-23%2F422658670-44100-2-a832cde02fdc1.mp3

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