# The Drop | Dybantsa vs. Peterson Takeaways, Kawhi Trade On Hold & Best Movie Sequels

An episode of [No Dunks](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468409996), 10 Jul 2026, 1 h 15 min.

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On Fri.'s No Dunks, the guys discuss AJ Dybantsa's Summer League debut, other players to watch in Vegas, and the NBA not allowing Keyonte George to coach the Utah Jazz. That, plus how concerned should Raptors fans be about the Kawhi Leonard trade on hold, the Wizards' Trae Young promise, the Lakers interest in Jonathan Kuminga, 'Las Vegas Jacks' expansion, IG algorithms, HOA concerns, pest control, movie sequels, and more. ✍️ No Dunks' Substack has ad-free episodes: https://nodunks.substack.com/ 👕 Fix up, look sharp in No Dunks merch: https://bit.ly/4qi6nin 📈 Subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube: YouTube.com/nodunksinc 𝕏 Follow No Dunks on Twitter/X: https://x.com/NoDunksInc 📸 Follow No Dunks on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodunksinc/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast, presented
[0:10] Speaker 1: by Fan Duel. It's Friday, July tenth, twenty twenty six.
[0:14] Speaker 1: I'm j Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside me.
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[0:33] Speaker 1: and reviews. On today's drop, We've got Kawhi Trade chaos
[0:38] Speaker 1: to unpack. Oh boy, we'll get into that. We got
[0:42] Speaker 1: the up down report and we're talking movie sequels a
[0:46] Speaker 1: when we get to Rapid Fire as we wrap up
[0:48] Speaker 1: the week with Rapid Fire fun. But first we're gonna
[0:52] Speaker 1: start with Vegas Summer League. Because the top two players
[0:56] Speaker 1: in the twenty six NBA draft squared off on Day
[0:59] Speaker 1: one of Vegas Summer League. Number one pick aj Debonsa
[1:02] Speaker 1: led all players twenty seven points seven boards in twenty
[1:05] Speaker 1: six minutes to power the Wizards to the ninety two
[1:09] Speaker 1: eighty eight win. Why did I tell you the score
[1:12] Speaker 1: of a Summer League game. Nobody cares who wins or loses.
[1:15] Speaker 1: Paying number two pick Darren Peterson finished with twenty four.
[1:18] Speaker 1: But I do want your thoughts on this battle of
[1:20] Speaker 1: the top two seats.
[1:22] Speaker 2: Hey, it went down to the wire. It doesn't, No,
[1:25] Speaker 2: of course it does not. But there was a battle
[1:28] Speaker 2: between the two of them with minute twenty two seconds
[1:30] Speaker 2: left when Debonsa pulled Peterson's arm and Peterson kind of
[1:34] Speaker 2: got mad. That's true, But then Debonsa big enough to
[1:37] Speaker 2: go to the bench and not play the rest of
[1:39] Speaker 2: the game in a Summer League game. He literally got
[1:41] Speaker 2: pulled in the player. Yeah, he had a cramp.
[1:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, he was rubbing his legs and his leg hurt.
[1:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that was I don't think it was by choice.
[1:46] Speaker 3: No, that's why he fouled Peterson so he could go
[1:50] Speaker 3: to the bench and rub.
[1:51] Speaker 2: That's why they called it one. Yeah, yeah, he said
[1:53] Speaker 2: he was cool with it. I will say, though, I'm
[1:56] Speaker 2: totally fine with my pre draft prediction saying that Peterson
[2:00] Speaker 2: should have gone one even though he played poorly. Still
[2:04] Speaker 2: sticking with that because yeah, Debounsa still scored. But I
[2:07] Speaker 2: will say his strength, his speed looked really really good
[2:11] Speaker 2: going by Orlando Robinson. Yeah, he's going by a super
[2:14] Speaker 2: slow guy plenty of times getting to the rim, that
[2:16] Speaker 2: beautiful don. But he's not as smooth as my Peterson.
[2:21] Speaker 2: He was two of thirteen thirteen.
[2:24] Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing that on a Trey Kirby
[2:26] Speaker 1: kra today as smooth as Yeah.
[2:30] Speaker 2: And I say that because he was two of thirteen.
[2:31] Speaker 2: Outside the paint, Debonsa just he's not as smooth going
[2:35] Speaker 2: through his shots. Well, I thought, Utah, Yeah, they're giving
[2:38] Speaker 2: Peterson the ball to start every possession, which was really weird.
[2:42] Speaker 2: The Wizard's playing great defense to get out on him
[2:45] Speaker 2: to pressure him. Watkins was really good, but he's not
[2:48] Speaker 2: the point guard. He was playing without a point guard. Essentially,
[2:50] Speaker 2: he was the whole guy, the whole team, and he
[2:53] Speaker 2: just did not overall play as well. He had eight
[2:56] Speaker 2: turnovers because he was playing the point guard. But then
[2:58] Speaker 2: he started to get it going. So in this game, yeah,
[3:01] Speaker 2: de Bonsa looked better and it was just it was
[3:05] Speaker 2: just odd to see the way they played Peterson like
[3:10] Speaker 2: he was kind of bringing up, bringing forward what he
[3:14] Speaker 2: did in the Utah Summer League and being the guy
[3:17] Speaker 2: and the only guy, and he's not going to do
[3:19] Speaker 2: that when he gets to actual play that either way,
[3:24] Speaker 2: A fun one that went down to the way I.
[3:26] Speaker 1: Mean, both guys not shy, no by any stretch of
[3:29] Speaker 1: the imagination. DEBONSA seven of eighteen shots that he hit,
[3:32] Speaker 1: missed all five of his threes, got to the line
[3:35] Speaker 1: a ton, and we got this new just one free
[3:37] Speaker 1: throw thing too to count for two. Finished with two
[3:39] Speaker 1: assists and two steals. Peterson six of eighteen for the game,
[3:43] Speaker 1: missed five to seven from deep, eight turnovers. Like you said,
[3:46] Speaker 1: I also think he had nine personal fouls summer league maybee. Yes, yeah,
[3:52] Speaker 1: a lot of stuffs. What do you think, TK, What
[3:54] Speaker 1: was your reaction watching this game or the highlights? They're
[3:56] Speaker 1: both going to be very good, yeah, I think.
[3:57] Speaker 3: And look, when you're comparing their performances last night, the
[4:00] Speaker 3: Jazz are so far ahead of the Wizards from like
[4:03] Speaker 3: a rebuild standpoint that their summer league team is worse. Meanwhile,
[4:06] Speaker 3: you've got Trey Johnson and Will Riley playing really well
[4:09] Speaker 3: for the Wizard, so AJ didn't have to do it all.
[4:11] Speaker 3: But man, this guy looks like he is going to
[4:13] Speaker 3: be a scorer instantly in the league. He looks so fluid.
[4:16] Speaker 3: It looked like he was getting downhill anytime he wanted to.
[4:19] Speaker 3: You say, two for thirteen away from the rim. That
[4:21] Speaker 3: means he went five for five at the rim, and
[4:23] Speaker 3: he was getting to the rim. He was drawing files.
[4:25] Speaker 3: He's already got the grifting gene activated. In his very
[4:29] Speaker 3: first NBA experience, he took a lot of midies, He
[4:33] Speaker 3: took a lot of free throws. I did think it
[4:35] Speaker 3: was pretty interesting to see how often he was initiating
[4:38] Speaker 3: the offense for the Wizards, because they did just give
[4:42] Speaker 3: Trey a Young two hundred million dollars. So he's going
[4:44] Speaker 3: to be handling the ball a ton, and it looks
[4:46] Speaker 3: like Debonsa is definitely capable of it. But I really
[4:50] Speaker 3: liked what I saw from him. He looks like a man,
[4:53] Speaker 3: and I would say Darren Peterson looks like a man
[4:55] Speaker 3: as well. He's got great size as a guard. He
[4:59] Speaker 3: from watching this one game, you know, he looks more
[5:01] Speaker 3: like a two to me than a one. He was
[5:03] Speaker 3: creating space, he was just bricking away. His two three
[5:06] Speaker 3: point makes were both kind of lucky, like one was
[5:08] Speaker 3: a grenade I think at the end of the first half,
[5:10] Speaker 3: and the last one was like a thirty seven footer
[5:12] Speaker 3: they just chucked up at the buzzer. So he didn't
[5:14] Speaker 3: play very great, But like I said, he's got hardly
[5:16] Speaker 3: any team around him, especially compared to a Wizard's team
[5:19] Speaker 3: that's sending, you know, a bunch of first rounders out there.
[5:22] Speaker 3: So I thought fun to see both of these guys
[5:25] Speaker 3: going at each other, and pretty funny that de Banza
[5:28] Speaker 3: had to leave the game for a cramp when that
[5:30] Speaker 3: was the problem with Darren Peterson all year at Kansas.
[5:35] Speaker 1: These guys need to drink more water. At one point
[5:37] Speaker 1: late in the second quarter too, it was a fun
[5:39] Speaker 1: moment in this game. Peterson got switched on to Debantsa
[5:42] Speaker 1: and the crowd started to like cheer and that hype
[5:46] Speaker 1: build in the in the building, the Thomas and Max
[5:49] Speaker 1: Center there, and they sort of went at it one
[5:50] Speaker 1: on one. I think de Buonca sort of drove and
[5:53] Speaker 1: he spun back. He gote a look, he created some separation,
[5:56] Speaker 1: but he missed that shot. But I always love when
[5:58] Speaker 1: that happens when they're you know that the swelling in
[6:00] Speaker 1: the crowd as they get excited for these two guys.
[6:02] Speaker 1: And this is the fourth time over the last what
[6:04] Speaker 1: two and a half years that these two guys had
[6:06] Speaker 1: matched up or their teams had matched up and played
[6:08] Speaker 1: against each other. In every outing, Peterson had the better
[6:12] Speaker 1: game to Debonsa until this one. I think we could
[6:15] Speaker 1: say that he definitely had the better one last.
[6:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was motivated from the get go. While
[6:21] Speaker 2: it felt like Debansa, it just was a little excuse me,
[6:25] Speaker 2: Peterson was a little slow fixed his hair after will
[6:28] Speaker 2: Riley beat him on a fast break in a minute
[6:30] Speaker 2: into this game. He wasn't locked in after coming from
[6:34] Speaker 2: the Utah Summer League, if that has anything to do
[6:36] Speaker 2: with it. He played multiple games while de Bonsa hadn't
[6:39] Speaker 2: played a game in four months. As he said post
[6:41] Speaker 2: post game in his interview, I haven't played in a
[6:44] Speaker 2: long time.
[6:44] Speaker 3: Man, March tenth. I got bounced in the first round.
[6:48] Speaker 2: That was very funny. Yeah, he looks good.
[6:51] Speaker 1: Rest versus Rust in summer crap.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, the rust worked out. He looked awesome.
[6:58] Speaker 3: He was playing a lot through contact, and I thought
[7:00] Speaker 3: that was part of the problem for Peterson is that
[7:02] Speaker 3: the Wizards came out and said, you got Jamir Walkins
[7:05] Speaker 3: on you, and Jamiyir Walkin is going to value up
[7:07] Speaker 3: and down the court as much as he can, forcing
[7:09] Speaker 3: Peterson to play through physicality as well. And it's just
[7:12] Speaker 3: going to be something that both of these guys have
[7:15] Speaker 3: to learn. And I thought Debonza was a little better
[7:16] Speaker 3: about it last night.
[7:17] Speaker 1: He was was huge. He's huge.
[7:19] Speaker 3: He's a huge I mean a guy that can handle
[7:21] Speaker 3: the ball like that.
[7:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really he also needs to he needs
[7:25] Speaker 1: to get better with his handle, and he will. Why
[7:27] Speaker 1: wouldn't he because he likes to do He's a big
[7:29] Speaker 1: chicken wing guy. When he's like dribbling, he likes to
[7:31] Speaker 1: put out the other arm, maybe because he lacks a
[7:34] Speaker 1: little confidence in his dribble being that size. But he'll
[7:36] Speaker 1: get better. Yeah, both these guys are They look like
[7:38] Speaker 1: they're going to be star players in this league. A
[7:39] Speaker 1: bunch of Wizards sitting courtside. Yeah to Trey Young, Mayor,
[7:43] Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, DeAndre Ayton, he's on the Wizards. Alexar bub Carrington,
[7:47] Speaker 1: Keishan George to watch the number one pick and some
[7:50] Speaker 1: of these other guys, Will Riley playing in this game
[7:52] Speaker 1: and so on.
[7:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, more teams are getting there more and more over
[7:56] Speaker 2: the last few years, Like the Pelicans are practicing tires. Yeah,
[8:01] Speaker 2: so that's that's cool.
[8:03] Speaker 1: Okay. Any other thoughts on those two top two picks
[8:06] Speaker 1: going at it?
[8:06] Speaker 3: Not about the top two picks, but I think that
[8:08] Speaker 3: had to be an encouraging night for the Wizards. I
[8:10] Speaker 3: think they had all of their roster players show up
[8:13] Speaker 3: for the game last night. So, you know, Anthony Davis
[8:15] Speaker 3: is a question mark. Will he be on the team?
[8:17] Speaker 3: He was there. Did he look thrilled to be there?
[8:19] Speaker 3: I don't know if you would say that, but he
[8:20] Speaker 3: was there. That's good. And then I thought Trey Johnson
[8:23] Speaker 3: and Will Riley were the two best players on the court. Yeah,
[8:26] Speaker 3: which is what you want from the guys who were
[8:28] Speaker 3: in year two. They were dominating out there. Twenty six
[8:30] Speaker 3: for Trey Johnson, a bunch of tough shots. Will Riley
[8:33] Speaker 3: had eighteen basically took over late to win the game
[8:37] Speaker 3: for the Wizards. So a great night for Washington.
[8:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. You want if you're the Washington Wizards or you're
[8:42] Speaker 1: a fan of the Wizards, you want debonsa Trey Johnson
[8:45] Speaker 1: Will Riley to play, you know, two more games and
[8:48] Speaker 1: look like they belong and look especially in the guys
[8:51] Speaker 1: who are playing in their second year. And then you
[8:53] Speaker 1: shut it down early, you give other guys opportunity, you
[8:55] Speaker 1: don't risk injury and all that, and that's probably where
[8:57] Speaker 1: they're headed here, and that always happens at Summer League,
[9:00] Speaker 1: especially guys second third year guys. You're like, okay, you
[9:03] Speaker 1: are much much better. That makes sense, right, So goodwin.
[9:06] Speaker 1: They get it done in the end. I want to
[9:08] Speaker 1: ask you, guys, other players to watch here in Summer League.
[9:11] Speaker 1: Either went out it last night and played, or you're
[9:13] Speaker 1: looking forward to for the rest of the Summer League.
[9:15] Speaker 1: You can get a started te kt.
[9:16] Speaker 3: We got a good matchup in Kings versus Clippers last night,
[9:21] Speaker 3: Darius Acuff versus Keaton Woggler and a Cuff completely outplayed
[9:26] Speaker 3: Woggler in this one. Nineteen points on a whopping six
[9:29] Speaker 3: of twenty field goal attempts for Darius. Acuff also added
[9:32] Speaker 3: seven assists. He looked like he knows how to play instantly,
[9:36] Speaker 3: and it looked like a learning experience for Keaton Woggler,
[9:38] Speaker 3: who went for seven points on just one of seven
[9:41] Speaker 3: field goals and one assist. To me, he was really
[9:43] Speaker 3: struggling to get any separation. He's not a super athlete.
[9:47] Speaker 3: He is a field player. He's not even a guy
[9:49] Speaker 3: that has like crazy handles or an amazing amount of skill.
[9:52] Speaker 3: But he's a right play machine, and that can look bad.
[9:55] Speaker 3: I think sometimes in summer League where it's like, okay,
[9:57] Speaker 3: I can't get open, fine, I'll just go over, I'll
[9:59] Speaker 3: go somewhere else. That's probably the right play, but it's
[10:02] Speaker 3: not exciting to watch it at all, or like, Okay,
[10:04] Speaker 3: a double team's coming to me, I'll pass it and
[10:06] Speaker 3: everybody else is playing offense. That means you did nothing
[10:09] Speaker 3: on the possession, even it's the right thing to do.
[10:11] Speaker 3: So he's gonna have a big I think he's gonna
[10:14] Speaker 3: have a big, growing pains kind of season this year.
[10:17] Speaker 3: He was an unheralded recruit, came out of nowhere to
[10:20] Speaker 3: be a top five pick, and like I said, profile wise,
[10:23] Speaker 3: he doesn't necessarily look like a dominant type out there.
[10:26] Speaker 3: He's gonna have to figure out how his feel and
[10:29] Speaker 3: the way he plays the game translates to the NBA.
[10:32] Speaker 3: Whereas a guy like Acuf just goes out and he's like,
[10:33] Speaker 3: I'm quick. There's not guys out here that can really
[10:35] Speaker 3: guard me. He didn't shoot well, but he got twenty
[10:38] Speaker 3: shots up. That's impressive. We get up that many field
[10:40] Speaker 3: goal attempts compared to seven her Woggler.
[10:44] Speaker 2: I'll say the Sixers have a guy who's ready to
[10:46] Speaker 2: play in LeBaron Phylon. That guy handles, shoots, and talks trash.
[10:53] Speaker 2: That's some real league. So he gets ready to shoot,
[10:55] Speaker 2: he's ready to pass. It's an interesting dynamic there with
[10:59] Speaker 2: edgecumb In Maxi and now Jalen Brown for this guy
[11:02] Speaker 2: who can come off the bench and handle and be
[11:06] Speaker 2: an offense for a lot of it. He can literally
[11:09] Speaker 2: he can score, m pass and do everything out there.
[11:11] Speaker 2: So I liked watching him just as a first game again,
[11:16] Speaker 2: talking trash, that was fun.
[11:17] Speaker 1: He has the ball on a string. His handle is
[11:21] Speaker 1: very very tight. Eighteen point seven assists in the Sixers victory.
[11:24] Speaker 1: He started on fire too. I think he had eleven
[11:27] Speaker 1: very early and he was hitting a bunch of threes.
[11:29] Speaker 1: Cooled off, finished four to ten from distance. But yeah,
[11:31] Speaker 1: look like they have a player could be one of
[11:32] Speaker 1: these guys that looks like a steal at least very early.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Here from the draft what he slipped at twenty two so.
[11:37] Speaker 2: Where he went it was low.
[11:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's a funny double zero guy. Though maybe
[11:42] Speaker 1: it's the Summer League jerseys. The double zero looks weird
[11:45] Speaker 1: to me.
[11:45] Speaker 3: It looks weird on guards period.
[11:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, just so strange.
[11:48] Speaker 3: But he's got the head band, he had a well,
[11:50] Speaker 3: he had a headband for like half the game and
[11:51] Speaker 3: he took it off. He had a T shirt. I
[11:52] Speaker 3: was like, new Jordan Clarkson just dropped.
[11:55] Speaker 1: Maybe maybe h We got the Bulls playing the Grizzlies
[11:58] Speaker 1: today in Vegas. I think this is a fun game
[11:59] Speaker 1: to watch. Cam Boozer going up against Caleb Wilson. Talk
[12:02] Speaker 1: about a guy in Caleb Wilson who hasn't played in
[12:05] Speaker 1: a long time because he had the hand injury at
[12:07] Speaker 1: the end of the regular season in college there, so
[12:10] Speaker 1: I think it's going to be his first organized game
[12:12] Speaker 1: in five months. They've had good matchups him, Boozer and
[12:17] Speaker 1: Wilson going back to North Carolina and Duke, so that'd
[12:20] Speaker 1: be a good one that I'm excited for a couple
[12:22] Speaker 1: other guys. Another great game for Yaxel Lendenborg. I mean,
[12:26] Speaker 1: he just fills up the box score. He's older, so
[12:28] Speaker 1: he should be good out there. But twenty one points,
[12:30] Speaker 1: ten boards, six assists in twenty eight minutes. He scored
[12:32] Speaker 1: the final nine points for the Warriors. He looks immediately
[12:36] Speaker 1: like a rotation guy in the NBA. Especially, Why wouldn't
[12:39] Speaker 1: this guy be able to play on the Warriors. It's
[12:40] Speaker 1: currently constructed so good, yeah, exactly, and he looks it
[12:44] Speaker 1: he's got a complete game. Yeah, very good. And then
[12:47] Speaker 1: my only other name too. I mean, there's tons of
[12:49] Speaker 1: names to watch, but Lakers guard Cameron Carr looked really
[12:52] Speaker 1: good in the California Classic, like this other sort of
[12:55] Speaker 1: minor summer league showcase. A lot of athleticism, good shooting.
[13:00] Speaker 1: You know, he was a first round pick, so we'll
[13:01] Speaker 1: see how it translates here in Vegas. Any other names.
[13:04] Speaker 3: Marez Johnson probably played Lendeborg last night twenty seven eight, three,
[13:08] Speaker 3: three and two blocks for Marez Johnson, he just looks
[13:11] Speaker 3: like he's going to be an elite garbage man going forward.
[13:15] Speaker 3: Knows how to play and knows what his role is
[13:17] Speaker 3: going to be for a MAVs team that will ultimately
[13:20] Speaker 3: be built around Cooper Flag and what he brings to
[13:22] Speaker 3: the team. And if you can fill around that, be
[13:24] Speaker 3: a defensive player, finish inside, you could stick on the
[13:27] Speaker 3: Mavericks for a long time. I think in task you
[13:29] Speaker 3: had to be happy. Kobe Buffkin thirty points on eight
[13:32] Speaker 3: of sixteen shooting.
[13:34] Speaker 1: He's the leading scorer.
[13:35] Speaker 3: I think he's not even twenty three years oldly yet.
[13:38] Speaker 2: And not even signed to a contract. Who wants him?
[13:40] Speaker 1: He's on the Pelicans summer League roster.
[13:42] Speaker 2: Right yeah, but he does not have a guaranteed deal.
[13:45] Speaker 2: They've got fourteen guaranteed deals plus a two way player,
[13:47] Speaker 2: so he's available. He splashed two four or four point
[13:52] Speaker 2: opportunities in the first quarter. I mean, that guy can score.
[13:55] Speaker 2: He had twenty one in the first half, thirty overall.
[13:58] Speaker 2: He can score. Somebody's got to pick this guy up.
[14:02] Speaker 2: I don't know who it's going to be. I doubt
[14:03] Speaker 2: it's going to be the Pelicans. But see him go
[14:06] Speaker 2: against Joan Baron Jay on the other side. He tried
[14:08] Speaker 2: to dunk on Baron Jay, which was awesome. Baron Jay
[14:10] Speaker 2: blocked him. Baron Jay is going to play. I could
[14:14] Speaker 2: definitely be swayed watching one Summer League game for sure,
[14:17] Speaker 2: as I was last year in his first Summer League
[14:19] Speaker 2: game as a kid when he's eighteen, he had six
[14:21] Speaker 2: blocks right off the bat. But this year, now that
[14:24] Speaker 2: they've traded nas Reed away, for the Minnesota Timberwls. This
[14:27] Speaker 2: guy's going to play, as simple as that. He's nineteen,
[14:30] Speaker 2: but I think he is far better at making decisions
[14:33] Speaker 2: on defense. He's better at just knowing where he's going
[14:37] Speaker 2: to be. So it's about the defensive end, and he
[14:40] Speaker 2: looks better he's going to play. We know that another
[14:42] Speaker 2: guy's playing backup center, cal Mary Boyles. I know he's
[14:45] Speaker 2: going into second year and he did incredibly well in
[14:49] Speaker 2: that playoff run for the Toronto Raptors. But they're trying
[14:51] Speaker 2: to make him more of a player. They're putting a
[14:54] Speaker 2: lot on his shoulders to not only be a backup center,
[14:57] Speaker 2: but to be a ball handler. As our man Grange reported,
[15:01] Speaker 2: that's what he's doing out there, to be a pick
[15:02] Speaker 2: and roll ball handler as a backup center. And he's
[15:04] Speaker 2: going to jump. They've already said, you're jumping from twenty
[15:08] Speaker 2: two minutes per game last year to thirty this year.
[15:10] Speaker 2: And I could I buy that because they need a
[15:12] Speaker 2: backup center. He is that guy and he'll finish games.
[15:15] Speaker 2: And I made that joke a couple of weeks ago
[15:18] Speaker 2: that maybe that Orlando Robinson, that old guy could be useful.
[15:22] Speaker 2: He's just way too slow as we saw in that
[15:25] Speaker 2: game with debatsa destroying him just going by him. So
[15:29] Speaker 2: they don't need a third string point guard. They are center.
[15:32] Speaker 2: I should say they've got Colin Murray Boyles. We'll see him.
[15:35] Speaker 2: I want to watch him as a as a guy
[15:37] Speaker 2: who's developed a little bit.
[15:39] Speaker 1: We also learned that the NBA told jazzguard Kiante George
[15:42] Speaker 1: that he will not be able to coach during any
[15:45] Speaker 1: of these summer league games. According to the Desert News,
[15:49] Speaker 1: George is not the first active NBA player who has
[15:51] Speaker 1: wanted to join the coaching ranks, like in a voluntary rule,
[15:55] Speaker 1: but the league wanted to keep the rules consistent across
[15:58] Speaker 1: the board, so they they shot this down. From what
[16:01] Speaker 1: I could tell, the league office did tell the Jazz
[16:03] Speaker 1: five or six days ago that he could join them
[16:06] Speaker 1: as a coach for like one game, and then they
[16:10] Speaker 1: reviewed the situation and you know, I guess relied on
[16:12] Speaker 1: precedent and they're like, uh no, you can't, to which
[16:16] Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, what the hell, come on?
[16:18] Speaker 1: We had Richard Jefferson as an NBA official in a
[16:21] Speaker 1: summer league game. Once George can't be over there calling
[16:24] Speaker 1: up a player two but any thoughts on this?
[16:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the league is going back
[16:30] Speaker 3: on their word a lot right now.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
[16:32] Speaker 3: It fits in with the recent news. But they should
[16:35] Speaker 3: have just given Keyante Georgia polo and sent him out
[16:37] Speaker 3: there to coach, and then had the league say no,
[16:39] Speaker 3: you can't do that.
[16:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't ask. Don't ask.
[16:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't got to ask for permission, ask
[16:44] Speaker 2: for forgiveness. If they say, hey, that guy can't coach,
[16:48] Speaker 2: just go out there, okay. God.
[16:50] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[16:50] Speaker 2: They like to bend rules, and in this instance, this
[16:53] Speaker 2: guy who's already a part of their coaching staff. If
[16:56] Speaker 2: you read that Desert News article, he's already been out
[16:58] Speaker 2: there calling plays and practices. So number one, why isn't
[17:03] Speaker 2: he playing? Has he heard? Why isn't he part of
[17:05] Speaker 2: those practices and running the teams? I guess because he's
[17:07] Speaker 2: not part of the summer League team. But he should
[17:10] Speaker 2: have been a point guard out there with Darren Peterson
[17:13] Speaker 2: because they didn't have a point guard. That looked very stupid. Yeah,
[17:17] Speaker 2: this whole thing is weird.
[17:18] Speaker 1: But he's Yeah, but he's around, Like you said, he's
[17:20] Speaker 1: been around these.
[17:21] Speaker 2: Young apparently as a coach.
[17:24] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, which is why give him an opportunity here?
[17:26] Speaker 1: Imagine he was like, imagine they gave him this chance,
[17:29] Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my god, I'm so good at this.
[17:31] Speaker 1: I'm leaving the NBA. I'm going right into the coach.
[17:34] Speaker 1: I want a story. We give a movie out of that.
[17:36] Speaker 1: But no, the NBA says, no, I can't do that.
[17:39] Speaker 1: Then we allow you to do it, and everybody's gonna
[17:42] Speaker 1: want to do it, so good.
[17:44] Speaker 3: Cool, that'd be awesome. Yeah, Summer league guys, nobody, how
[17:48] Speaker 3: dare we have our current players teaching our younger players
[17:51] Speaker 3: how to play basketball? Yeah? A bummer. Yes, I mean
[17:55] Speaker 3: it's not like I was going to be like, oh Man, County,
[17:57] Speaker 3: George's turn it on.
[17:59] Speaker 1: But you're a little intriguement. Yeah, sure, I.
[18:01] Speaker 3: Don't know who coached the Jazz summ League team.
[18:03] Speaker 2: Like right right, Yeah, it definitely wasn't well.
[18:05] Speaker 1: Assistance usually Yeah, yeah.
[18:07] Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I knew for a second.
[18:09] Speaker 3: But did you guys see the guy on the Clippers
[18:13] Speaker 3: Nick Apple Juice Martinelli jumps on his free throws.
[18:17] Speaker 1: I saw this in doors. Burke was very shocked. Yes,
[18:21] Speaker 1: slow mo, well this guy, I mean, legit jumps, get
[18:24] Speaker 1: apple juice. It's a tiny jumper at the free throw.
[18:27] Speaker 3: That was pretty crazy.
[18:29] Speaker 1: We had Aggie. We had a weggie yesterday too. Final
[18:31] Speaker 1: three point exactly, very long. Okay, let's get into the
[18:37] Speaker 1: big news from yesterday. The Clippers Raptors trade centered around
[18:41] Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard will not be completed until the NBA investigation
[18:46] Speaker 1: into whether the Clippers circumvented the salary cap is completed.
[18:51] Speaker 1: A bunch of statements were released from both sides. The
[18:53] Speaker 1: Raptors said in their statement Thursday that though they are
[18:57] Speaker 1: eager to add Kawhi to their roster, they will quote
[19:00] Speaker 1: wait until the league's investigation is complete before finalizing the deal. Uh,
[19:06] Speaker 1: where do you want to start with this? There's sort
[19:08] Speaker 1: of is oddly a lot to unpack with this. Where
[19:10] Speaker 1: does your mind go instantly?
[19:12] Speaker 2: Why is this announcement happening nine days after the trade happened.
[19:16] Speaker 2: It's either because the NBA is thinking, Okay, we'll say
[19:20] Speaker 2: this right here, right now, and it just shows we
[19:23] Speaker 2: are trying to investigate the Clippers. Do you see We're
[19:27] Speaker 2: trying something here, although I think it would just result
[19:32] Speaker 2: in them not doing a thing. It's either that or
[19:36] Speaker 2: it took them this long to figure it out because
[19:39] Speaker 2: they're just doing the investigation now, and maybe the punch
[19:42] Speaker 2: and maybe the punishment is actually going to be something.
[19:45] Speaker 2: But I definitely lean to the former and they're just
[19:48] Speaker 2: saying something just to say something. But I don't know
[19:50] Speaker 2: why it's nine days later to go from Adam Silver
[19:54] Speaker 2: a month ago saying, oh, we're almost at the end
[19:56] Speaker 2: of this investigation and seemingly it's going to end up
[20:01] Speaker 2: happening at the beginning of June to this now after
[20:05] Speaker 2: nine days. It doesn't make sense. I think it's just
[20:07] Speaker 2: the NBA just deciding, oh, we'll put out this memo
[20:10] Speaker 2: just a kind of show that we're doing some sort
[20:15] Speaker 2: of investigation as to if the Clippers did anything at all. Okay,
[20:19] Speaker 2: just weird. I know, it's weird.
[20:20] Speaker 1: The whole thing is absolutely weird, downright embarrassing for Silver
[20:24] Speaker 1: in the league that it's even gotten to this point.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Of course, this is what ten eleven months now, I mean,
[20:29] Speaker 1: after Pablo broke the news. It's officially the second season
[20:32] Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Yes, yeah, so depending on the
[20:35] Speaker 1: outcome of the league's investigation, this is a real thing
[20:38] Speaker 1: at all. Kawhi's contract could potentially be voided or altered
[20:43] Speaker 1: in some way. So had the Raptors finalized the acquisition
[20:46] Speaker 1: of Kawhi before the situation was settled, they would have
[20:50] Speaker 1: been taking on the risk of losing him like again, suspensions, whatever.
[20:54] Speaker 1: So the League was basically saying to the Raptors here yesterday, hey,
[20:59] Speaker 1: before you sign, did you read the fine print on
[21:02] Speaker 1: all this, because it's a bit of a buyer's beware here.
[21:04] Speaker 1: We have decided now, the reporting says, and I believe this,
[21:08] Speaker 1: when they were talking about this trade back in late June,
[21:12] Speaker 1: I assume they went to the League office prior to
[21:15] Speaker 1: agreeing in principle to the trade, like, hey, are we
[21:18] Speaker 1: cool to do this? Like, you know, I know this
[21:21] Speaker 1: investigation is going on, but if us the Raptors want
[21:23] Speaker 1: to trade for Kawhi, and they were like yeah, and
[21:25] Speaker 1: then they've switched it up here at the last second.
[21:27] Speaker 1: It sounds like and so the Raptors, I think wisely,
[21:30] Speaker 1: are saying, okay, well, we can't sign on the dotted line.
[21:33] Speaker 1: If you're saying, suddenly we in taking on Kawhi if
[21:36] Speaker 1: he is to be suspended, then then we're getting screwed again.
[21:41] Speaker 2: Sure, right, But according to some reporting, Michael Granger's reporting,
[21:45] Speaker 2: if that contract is voided, then the trade is entirely canceled.
[21:50] Speaker 2: They get Ingram Dick and the picks back, and Kawhi
[21:55] Speaker 2: Leonards a free agent, so they technically could sign it.
[21:57] Speaker 4: Well.
[21:57] Speaker 1: So that's interesting because you could say, when they were
[22:00] Speaker 1: telling the Raptors again, like if you do this, you
[22:04] Speaker 1: take on responsibility for whatever. Yeah, the investigation falls on Kawha's.
[22:09] Speaker 2: So I write, I read that, and I say, why
[22:11] Speaker 2: can't the Clippers assume every single penalization? Why not? I
[22:18] Speaker 2: mean the four things that the Clipper the Raptors could
[22:20] Speaker 2: get hit with now it's a seven point five million
[22:22] Speaker 2: dollars fine, the forfeiture of draft picks, suspension of team personnel,
[22:27] Speaker 2: and potentially voiding a player contract. Those are the things
[22:31] Speaker 2: that are in the CBA if you circumvent the salary cap.
[22:35] Speaker 1: So yeah, but but I interpret that as like, why
[22:39] Speaker 1: can't a lot of those would be still? Well, I
[22:41] Speaker 1: think they would be. I think they would be dinged
[22:44] Speaker 1: responsible from a lot of those things you said, possibly
[22:46] Speaker 1: the fine, draft picks all that. But if Kawhi is
[22:49] Speaker 1: on the trount Raptors, if this is an official trade,
[22:51] Speaker 1: and the investigation shows, Oh Kawhi and his representatives were
[22:55] Speaker 1: also played a huge part in this. Uncle Dennis, you
[22:58] Speaker 1: shady man, were suspending you fifty games? Whatever it is. Well,
[23:02] Speaker 1: then of course that hurts the Tronto Raptors. I'm not
[23:04] Speaker 1: saying it's right. That's why they're not agreeing to it.
[23:06] Speaker 1: That's how I look at it.
[23:07] Speaker 3: That's what Michael Grange said. He said, this is basically
[23:11] Speaker 3: a worst case scenario. We can't have this go through
[23:13] Speaker 3: and then have Kawhi get suspended. Yeah, if you want
[23:16] Speaker 3: to punish Kawhi Leonard, make him play eighty two games,
[23:20] Speaker 3: that's true. So what changed though? Because reporting literally does
[23:24] Speaker 3: say the NBA informed the Raptors before they agreed to
[23:27] Speaker 3: the trade that the investigation could cause issues with any
[23:29] Speaker 3: deal involving Leonard. That's been in three different places. Wind
[23:32] Speaker 3: Orders reported it, Michael Grange reported it, and The Athletic
[23:36] Speaker 3: has reported it. They're all saying the Raptors knew going in,
[23:39] Speaker 3: and then the trade call actually happens and they're like,
[23:41] Speaker 3: wait a second, don't we don't want to be suspended.
[23:45] Speaker 3: So I don't know, that's just very strange to me.
[23:47] Speaker 3: Why didn't they why why what the Raptors were told
[23:50] Speaker 3: prior to the trade is different than when they actually
[23:53] Speaker 3: got on the trade call. I guess it is a
[23:55] Speaker 3: little similar. Remember at the trade deadline there were question
[23:59] Speaker 3: marks about can Terry Rozier's deal be put into a
[24:02] Speaker 3: trade by the Heat, and the League was like, we
[24:04] Speaker 3: can't tell you until you try and do it. Yeah,
[24:06] Speaker 3: so maybe that's what it is. There's like, we can
[24:07] Speaker 3: give you some advice, but until you make that final
[24:10] Speaker 3: trade call, we won't tell you the actual story.
[24:13] Speaker 1: And the Heat got screwed and then he got screwed.
[24:15] Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think
[24:17] Speaker 3: this is super embarrassing for the League to still be
[24:20] Speaker 3: talking about the Kawhi Leonard scandal a year later. It
[24:24] Speaker 3: better be done by next week. There's a Board of
[24:26] Speaker 3: Governor's meeting next week and it needs to be finished
[24:28] Speaker 3: by then.
[24:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, according to Grange, he said, yeah, it could be
[24:33] Speaker 2: resolved by the Board of Governors meeting there in Las Vegas.
[24:36] Speaker 2: They'll decide yeah, yeah, the Clippers don't need to be
[24:40] Speaker 2: penalized for anything or whatever. They will sitting around that
[24:43] Speaker 2: table because it feels like it's just to me, they're
[24:47] Speaker 2: just putting out something to say something, because how could
[24:50] Speaker 2: they have not known? How could they not know what
[24:55] Speaker 2: the lake? What are the Clippers are going to get
[24:57] Speaker 2: hit with here? How could they not know? They've been
[24:59] Speaker 2: investigating for.
[25:00] Speaker 1: Ten still investigating tests.
[25:02] Speaker 2: I know, Adams a change here.
[25:04] Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
[25:05] Speaker 2: Adam Silver, was that that NBA day as saying, Hey,
[25:09] Speaker 2: we know it's almost over. We got to get this done.
[25:12] Speaker 2: That was a month ago. This is weird.
[25:15] Speaker 1: I Yeah. The fascinating part, though, to me now becomes
[25:18] Speaker 1: and you've said before and I do agree with you ultimately,
[25:21] Speaker 1: like you don't think Kawhi is ultimately going to get punished.
[25:25] Speaker 1: But but this this hold up and the raptor is saying, okay,
[25:29] Speaker 1: we're not going to agree to the trade because you're
[25:30] Speaker 1: saying we would take on the risk, makes me wonder, like, suddenly,
[25:35] Speaker 1: is there more information that we don't know yet you
[25:37] Speaker 1: know in the public that maybe he will Yeah, that
[25:40] Speaker 1: maybe it's a possibility.
[25:41] Speaker 2: And maybe they found that out over the last nine
[25:43] Speaker 2: days when they decided to actually discuss it with the company.
[25:47] Speaker 2: What's the name of the company that's actually doing the investigation, Oh, if.
[25:50] Speaker 1: You want the law firm, Yeah, wacked ol lipped in
[25:54] Speaker 1: Rosen and Cats the real winners of all this, aren't they?
[25:57] Speaker 1: Billible hours?
[25:58] Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe Rosen and Cats decided, hey, we're gonna
[26:03] Speaker 2: investigate this last week and they actually found something out
[26:06] Speaker 2: because this is this is so strange.
[26:09] Speaker 3: I mean, deadlines encourage you to work. Yes, oh, somebody
[26:13] Speaker 3: typed this up.
[26:14] Speaker 1: Well, I mean Silver at the start of the finals
[26:16] Speaker 1: was like, quote, we can't be investigating forever. And I
[26:20] Speaker 1: guess walked a Lipton Rosen and Cats that hold my beer, baby,
[26:24] Speaker 1: we absolutely can't.
[26:25] Speaker 2: And he said he said, quote, the inquiry was far along,
[26:30] Speaker 2: but now you just realize something. A month after that,
[26:34] Speaker 2: well what changed? Yeah, exactly.
[26:35] Speaker 1: A trade involving the main piece here. Yeah, does complicate things,
[26:40] Speaker 1: which is what we said and everybody said when that
[26:43] Speaker 1: trade news broke, like we were pumped Qui's coming back Toronto,
[26:45] Speaker 1: but it was like, hold on, what's going on here?
[26:48] Speaker 1: He is still I mean him, the team they're under investigation,
[26:52] Speaker 1: are they not? It's not settled.
[26:55] Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe let's trace said it's just a deadline,
[26:58] Speaker 2: and they started to your things out, you know, in
[27:03] Speaker 2: collaboration with what Uncle Dennis did to both the Raptors
[27:07] Speaker 2: and the Lakers asking for both ownership in what's ownership
[27:14] Speaker 2: in different companies right in the in the the sponsorships.
[27:19] Speaker 1: I mean just asking for things he's not legally allowed
[27:22] Speaker 1: to ask through.
[27:23] Speaker 2: With the remember problem they said investigating.
[27:25] Speaker 1: I think the Raptors said no, and then they told
[27:27] Speaker 1: the league like he's asking for things he's not legally
[27:29] Speaker 1: allowed to be asking for it. Right, That's that's you
[27:32] Speaker 1: know obviously what published reporting shows too and others.
[27:34] Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, Yeah, as.
[27:36] Speaker 1: Zilla wrote in his newsletter today, quote the Clippers, I
[27:39] Speaker 1: mean a possibility here the Clippers will no longer bear
[27:42] Speaker 1: the penalty of losing Kawai for a period of time.
[27:44] Speaker 1: If that's where the verdict comes down, that is pretty insane.
[27:47] Speaker 1: That goes to what you were saying, TK, like the
[27:50] Speaker 1: season is over where Kawhi was a Clipper. Yeah, so
[27:54] Speaker 1: if he is suspended again twenty thirty forty fifty, Like,
[27:57] Speaker 1: if it happens, and it's probably still a long shot
[27:59] Speaker 1: because I think you'd have the union getting involved in
[28:02] Speaker 1: all that. But that's crazy that the Raptors would be
[28:05] Speaker 1: the team getting penalized from the Kawhi side of things. Now,
[28:10] Speaker 1: could that influence Silver's decision on other penalties directly hitting
[28:14] Speaker 1: the Clippers maybe, like you know, the loss of draft
[28:18] Speaker 1: picks and cap related things.
[28:20] Speaker 2: That so fun. This is so fun to talk about
[28:22] Speaker 2: the gossip because it could just be Kawhi Leonard's contract
[28:25] Speaker 2: being voided and not necessarily it could. Yeah, and then
[28:29] Speaker 2: he's a free agent and then the Toronto Raptors literally
[28:32] Speaker 2: could sign him, you know, to the veteran minimum. Highly unlikely,
[28:36] Speaker 2: It's highly unlikely. But the slide them all something under
[28:40] Speaker 2: the table there you go. Yeah, the non taxpayer mle
[28:44] Speaker 2: mid level exception.
[28:46] Speaker 1: But this holds up other business maneuvers for both teams,
[28:51] Speaker 1: and you know, sorry Clippers, but I'm really focused on
[28:53] Speaker 1: the Raptors here, like obviously brandon Ingram and graded Dicker
[28:57] Speaker 1: also in limbo now here and potential moves and stuff
[29:00] Speaker 1: like that with a trade of this magnitude just like
[29:03] Speaker 1: on pause, like it like this has to be decided
[29:06] Speaker 1: next week at this port a Goner meeting.
[29:08] Speaker 2: It has to. Yeah, that's what makes me think it's
[29:10] Speaker 2: just them trying to put a little bit of a
[29:12] Speaker 2: light on the NBA, trying to indicate we did something here.
[29:18] Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of another spotlight and it's late
[29:20] Speaker 2: in the season, or they haven't done anything the following season,
[29:23] Speaker 2: they've done nothing. Oh yeah, of course, I know. They're
[29:26] Speaker 2: just making it.
[29:27] Speaker 1: Evidence from both the Clippers and Raptors is not doing something.
[29:29] Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But it's just well, I know,
[29:32] Speaker 2: but they're just trying to indicate that we did something.
[29:34] Speaker 2: There's headlines about them being part of an investigation. We
[29:39] Speaker 2: know the white collar law firm's name. You know, something happened,
[29:43] Speaker 2: you know. Otherwise it's not even a story. It hasn't
[29:47] Speaker 2: been a story. Otherwise it would just be something that
[29:49] Speaker 2: happens in August or whenever it's going to happen. This
[29:53] Speaker 2: is actually something. There's no explanation for why it is
[29:57] Speaker 2: taking so long.
[29:58] Speaker 3: Whindhorse sat on the podcast today that it feels like
[30:01] Speaker 3: the league is getting their ducks in a row because
[30:04] Speaker 3: they're going up against Steve Balmer, the richest owner in
[30:06] Speaker 3: the league, one of the richest people on Earth. YEP,
[30:09] Speaker 3: that guy's going to have all of the resources to
[30:11] Speaker 3: fight whatever comes back the Clippers way, so they have
[30:13] Speaker 3: to nail it. Like the only thing that would be
[30:15] Speaker 3: worse than the way they've handled it is if they
[30:18] Speaker 3: announced what happened in the investigation and the Clippers like
[30:20] Speaker 3: counter sue and then win that like ooh, you blew
[30:23] Speaker 3: it NBA after wasting a year. So they have to
[30:26] Speaker 3: nail it at the very first time, and it could
[30:28] Speaker 3: work out for the Raptors, Like it wouldn't be surprising
[30:30] Speaker 3: if both teams in both of their statements they both
[30:33] Speaker 3: say they want the trade to go through. Yes, the
[30:34] Speaker 3: Raptors are like, we're eager to get Kawhi Leonard. We
[30:36] Speaker 3: expect a swift revolution resolution. It should be done soon.
[30:40] Speaker 3: We still want Kawhi. Maybe they just have to tinker
[30:42] Speaker 3: with the draft compensation going back to the Clippers, and
[30:45] Speaker 3: then it ends up the Raptors get Kawhi. They're still
[30:48] Speaker 3: gonna have to pay him whatever his extension is, but
[30:51] Speaker 3: they're get him for less first round picks. Yeah, that'd
[30:53] Speaker 3: be great for the Raptors. Like, wouldn't you do that
[30:55] Speaker 3: even if they said, Kawhi Leonard is going to be
[30:57] Speaker 3: suspended thirty games next season, but we're growing in one
[31:00] Speaker 3: last first round pick? Would you do it? Heartbeat easily?
[31:04] Speaker 1: Anyway? This workd out better?
[31:07] Speaker 3: Yes, League mandated load managing for Kawhi Leonard.
[31:10] Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, the Clippers are going to have to give
[31:13] Speaker 2: up that first round pick, is what it feels like
[31:15] Speaker 2: at this point.
[31:16] Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, yeah, yeah.
[31:18] Speaker 1: Does it go back to the Raptors is the question?
[31:21] Speaker 1: Or is it just a completely voided pick, you know,
[31:23] Speaker 1: the Clippers. I should go back to the Raptors, I
[31:24] Speaker 1: would think, but who knows. Sorry, we'll hopefully have this,
[31:29] Speaker 1: or it's not even part of the deal. It's some
[31:30] Speaker 1: other pick that they own. I mean, we don't know
[31:32] Speaker 1: what this right.
[31:34] Speaker 2: That may not have anything to do It doesn't necessarily
[31:36] Speaker 2: have anything to do with the Raptors. And that's why
[31:38] Speaker 2: the Raptors, I said, I assume stepped in and said
[31:42] Speaker 2: we want nothing to do with it. So it doesn't
[31:44] Speaker 2: involve us. It's all about the Clippers and what they
[31:47] Speaker 2: did with Kauhi. This has nothing to do with the trade.
[31:50] Speaker 3: Ye.
[31:50] Speaker 1: But again that's why it's not being called through the league,
[31:53] Speaker 1: because the League is telling the Raptors okay, yeah, but hey,
[31:56] Speaker 1: before you agree to this, if the investigation finds Kawhi
[32:02] Speaker 1: guilty in any of this and he's penalized, then that's
[32:04] Speaker 1: on you because you'll have acquired him. So they're like, well,
[32:07] Speaker 1: we better wait. Then again, I think a week ago
[32:10] Speaker 1: they weren't told that, or they were under the assumption.
[32:13] Speaker 1: Either the raptors just assumed it was going to be
[32:16] Speaker 1: fine and Kawhi wouldn't be penalized. And again, maybe that'll
[32:19] Speaker 1: be the case, or they were given misinformation, or at
[32:22] Speaker 1: least the NBA changed their mind and the lawyers changed
[32:24] Speaker 1: their mind, and everyone was like, uh, you know what,
[32:26] Speaker 1: you better tell them, you better say this to them
[32:29] Speaker 1: at least, And then they said, okay, we'll wait.
[32:32] Speaker 2: What a mess.
[32:34] Speaker 1: It's insane that it's taken this long. That's yeah. I
[32:37] Speaker 1: mean I remember us debating whether it would be decided
[32:40] Speaker 1: before the All Star break, which was in LA. I
[32:43] Speaker 1: remember us having these conversations with that. Well, probably not.
[32:46] Speaker 1: They'd love to have that in the into a dome
[32:48] Speaker 1: still and yeah, yeah, sort of put that on the
[32:50] Speaker 1: back burner. Okay, it'll get done after that, you know,
[32:52] Speaker 1: maybe march orsome. Here we are still.
[32:55] Speaker 2: Has there ever been a more interesting Board of Governor's
[32:57] Speaker 2: meeting in the history of the NBA for fans? I
[33:01] Speaker 2: don't think so.
[33:03] Speaker 1: Maybe like walkouts and stuff.
[33:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Stern versus the PA. Sure, but this is great.
[33:09] Speaker 2: This is fun. This is one fun. This is one
[33:12] Speaker 2: that happens in one of those hotels where they usually happen,
[33:14] Speaker 2: some particular hotels win.
[33:16] Speaker 1: I can't remember where they stay.
[33:18] Speaker 2: I've walked by it before, but this time there's gonna
[33:20] Speaker 2: be some press. Like I've walked by it, there's been
[33:23] Speaker 2: no one there. Now there's gonna be some stuff. Okay, yeah,
[33:26] Speaker 2: exciting stuff.
[33:27] Speaker 1: We're not there, all right, Let's take a break and
[33:29] Speaker 1: then we'll get into some sillier topics in the updown report.
[33:34] Speaker 2: Spain Belgium today or no, I got that one wrong. No, No,
[33:39] Speaker 2: I've got Spain to win now, but I kind of
[33:41] Speaker 2: want Spain. I kind of want Belgium to win after
[33:45] Speaker 2: they beat What am I saying?
[33:47] Speaker 1: What are you saying?
[33:48] Speaker 3: Spain and Belgium?
[33:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they played three. Yeah, I got it. I
[33:51] Speaker 2: got it conflated because I thought Spain won yesterday. That
[33:54] Speaker 2: was France. I get my Spains in France mixed up.
[33:58] Speaker 2: I've got Spain to win, but I kind of want
[34:00] Speaker 2: Belgium after they beat the USA, you know what I mean?
[34:03] Speaker 2: But then we get Norway, England early, Holland's all up
[34:06] Speaker 2: in my algorithm these days.
[34:08] Speaker 1: Looks like a green onion.
[34:10] Speaker 2: The videos have you seen that? No, I have not
[34:13] Speaker 2: seen it.
[34:14] Speaker 1: You take a green because of his hair, there's a
[34:17] Speaker 1: lot of.
[34:19] Speaker 2: There's there's a video of him eating and then he
[34:22] Speaker 2: sees himself in the mirror, which is right beside him,
[34:25] Speaker 2: and he jumps. I mean, he's a likable guy, even
[34:28] Speaker 2: if you hate him, even if you think it's weird
[34:31] Speaker 2: that he walks around with those very expensive briefcases and
[34:35] Speaker 2: bags and stuck in bags. Yeah, I think he's a
[34:38] Speaker 2: likable guy. I like my algorithm. That's all I gotta say.
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[35:01] Speaker 3: JD.
[35:01] Speaker 1: Your guy looked pretty good yesterday. I don't know if
[35:03] Speaker 1: you watched your French team play Buppy.
[35:10] Speaker 5: I did not watch his single sick same Unfortunately, why
[35:16] Speaker 5: I had my alta pickleball practice because there comes first
[35:21] Speaker 5: my physical health.
[35:22] Speaker 2: Was that a three pm Eastern time. Yes, yeah, that's
[35:26] Speaker 2: maybe four.
[35:27] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so they're all over the place.
[35:29] Speaker 3: Got shut down on p K though he did. Yeah,
[35:32] Speaker 3: that was surprising, it was.
[35:34] Speaker 1: That was a bad PK for him. Yeah, I could save,
[35:36] Speaker 1: but he didn't have a lot of juice on that one.
[35:38] Speaker 3: Not a lot of juice. I hate the stutter steps.
[35:41] Speaker 3: I kiss stupid. They like banded a different stutter and
[35:45] Speaker 3: now you have to stutter one step before you do it,
[35:47] Speaker 3: and every guy does it.
[35:48] Speaker 2: I know you have to do it one step.
[35:50] Speaker 3: You can't. You can't like get to the ball stutter
[35:53] Speaker 3: and then kick. You have to stutter step kick.
[35:56] Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Broadcasters, hey it every time it happens,
[36:01] Speaker 2: broadcast like, this isn't part of the game sort of thing.
[36:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks stupid, Just.
[36:07] Speaker 2: Go kick it.
[36:08] Speaker 1: He made up for it with his goal in the
[36:10] Speaker 1: actual That was a sick all right, let's get into
[36:14] Speaker 1: the updown report. According to Brian Windhorse, the Wizards promised
[36:22] Speaker 1: Trey Young they would sign him to a near max
[36:25] Speaker 1: contract after acquiring him at the trade deadline, but they
[36:28] Speaker 1: needed or wanted him to sit out games to secure
[36:32] Speaker 1: the top pick. Trey Young ended up playing five games
[36:35] Speaker 1: for Washington, all of them losses, by the way, after
[36:39] Speaker 1: he made his way to washing So you know, this
[36:41] Speaker 1: made some news yesterday. Up or down TK on the
[36:43] Speaker 1: Wizards promising Trey Young a max contract in exchange for
[36:47] Speaker 1: sitting out the rest of last year.
[36:49] Speaker 3: What does mean to you that you're.
[36:51] Speaker 1: Okay, that you're okay with this and down you'd be like,
[36:54] Speaker 1: this is pretty shady.
[36:55] Speaker 3: Okay, Then I think it's shady. Okay, I do think
[36:57] Speaker 3: it's shady. We hear a lot about these wink Wink deals,
[37:00] Speaker 3: and the trade has made it feels like the extension
[37:02] Speaker 3: is already lined up. That's normal stuff the brandon ing room.
[37:07] Speaker 3: We've seen it with Pascal Siakama. Happens all the time.
[37:09] Speaker 3: I couldn't totally tell if a Windhorse was reporting or speculating.
[37:13] Speaker 3: I feel like it was a little bit of both.
[37:15] Speaker 3: But this is a little different when you're literally like, yeah,
[37:18] Speaker 3: sit out because we're protecting our draft pick here. It
[37:21] Speaker 3: felt like everybody knew that. But having the promise of
[37:23] Speaker 3: getting two hundred million dollars at the end is kind
[37:26] Speaker 3: of weird. That's just that just was a little weird
[37:29] Speaker 3: ski to me.
[37:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also in his whether it was quoting
[37:36] Speaker 2: what the Wizard said. Brian Windhors never used the word max,
[37:39] Speaker 2: not even close. He didn't use that word max. He
[37:41] Speaker 2: did say, we will give you an extension. That's what
[37:44] Speaker 2: he implied that the Wizard said, we will give you
[37:46] Speaker 2: an extension.
[37:46] Speaker 1: Trade already knew he was going to get paid. Quote
[37:50] Speaker 1: from Windhorse Peace, Yeah, yeah, what does that mean?
[37:52] Speaker 2: That could mean one hundred million over three years. I
[37:55] Speaker 2: mean that's I saw this aggregate. The misquote. I'm down
[37:59] Speaker 2: on that Reddit user Shay fan Club who put this
[38:03] Speaker 2: up and it started to get a lot of steam
[38:06] Speaker 2: from there. It's a misquote. Don't like it. He didn't
[38:08] Speaker 2: use the word max. And so when we actually heard
[38:12] Speaker 2: about the Trey Young trade, we said, how many games
[38:15] Speaker 2: is he going to play? I think that over under
[38:17] Speaker 2: Skizu throughout there was twenty for games. But I took Yeah,
[38:21] Speaker 2: you know, I was naive for sure. I thought Trey
[38:23] Speaker 2: was going to try and prove that he was worth
[38:25] Speaker 2: somewhere close to the MAX, because I don't think he
[38:28] Speaker 2: should have gotten anywhere close to the max. He got
[38:32] Speaker 2: the max, which is a crazy amount of money. So
[38:36] Speaker 2: down in a lot of whole different ways. This is
[38:40] Speaker 2: this is this is weird. He just said we're going
[38:42] Speaker 2: to take They just said we're going to take care
[38:44] Speaker 2: of you and pay you, I thought at that time,
[38:46] Speaker 2: because he was traded for CJ. McCollum and Corey Kispert
[38:49] Speaker 2: and that's it. No draft picks that he wouldn't get
[38:51] Speaker 2: anywhere close to four years over two hundred.
[38:54] Speaker 1: Two hundred and twelve million, seven point five percent trade
[38:57] Speaker 1: kicker too. I mean, it's a massive gamble obviously on
[39:00] Speaker 1: the health of Trey youngah in that contract.
[39:02] Speaker 2: And the length yet the length of it for sure, but.
[39:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, do I believe this happened one hundred percent? Yeah, Like,
[39:08] Speaker 1: we're gonna make this deal. And hey, by the way, Trey,
[39:10] Speaker 1: I know you're a little banged up as it is.
[39:13] Speaker 1: You don't need to play a lot here. You don't
[39:15] Speaker 1: because we'd like to get the number one pick. That'd
[39:17] Speaker 1: be great to get the batsa beside you and everything else.
[39:21] Speaker 1: So you take it easy. We're going to pay you.
[39:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[39:24] Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't get into the actual specifics, but uh,
[39:27] Speaker 1: this is what happened here. That's what they did. He
[39:29] Speaker 1: got paid a lot more than we thought for sure,
[39:32] Speaker 1: and play five games. Now, the funny part is again,
[39:34] Speaker 1: he played in five games. They did not win these games.
[39:38] Speaker 1: He was on limited minutes. From what I remember too,
[39:40] Speaker 1: he was not playing thirty thirty five minutes. He was
[39:42] Speaker 1: playing like twenty minutes, like under I think in some
[39:44] Speaker 1: of those games. So it's not like he played and
[39:47] Speaker 1: they're like, oh crap, we're winning games. So Trey Young
[39:49] Speaker 1: out here. It wouldn't have mattered.
[39:51] Speaker 2: Probably, That's what.
[39:51] Speaker 1: I'm getting at. So it's I don't know.
[39:54] Speaker 3: This does feel like if they could prove it, the
[39:58] Speaker 3: Wizard should get a fine for this. This feels like
[40:00] Speaker 3: a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine to me. Sure,
[40:03] Speaker 3: for all of the drama we went through last season
[40:06] Speaker 3: and the changing of the lottery rules with regards to tanking,
[40:08] Speaker 3: for a team to literally be like, we'll give you
[40:10] Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars if you don't play so we
[40:11] Speaker 3: can get the number one draft pick. That's bad. That's
[40:14] Speaker 3: worth a fine. I think we should watch a year
[40:16] Speaker 3: long investigation.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was thinking imagine this. You know Windhorse
[40:21] Speaker 1: said this last year during all the tanking talk. I'm like,
[40:24] Speaker 1: oh boy, there would this would this would get a
[40:27] Speaker 1: lot of headlines back then. I mean hell, we had
[40:29] Speaker 1: Yiannis basically doing this where the Bucks were saying, now,
[40:32] Speaker 1: I know they're thinking of trading them, but they're like,
[40:33] Speaker 1: don't come and play honest, and he's like, screw that.
[40:36] Speaker 1: I want to play. I want the league to investigate
[40:39] Speaker 1: why I can't play, why my own team is saying that.
[40:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
[40:42] Speaker 1: I don't really remember that now, but that was a thing.
[40:44] Speaker 2: It's a funny thing with Tree Young because good player,
[40:47] Speaker 2: but playing could mean more losses as well.
[40:51] Speaker 1: They lost all five.
[40:52] Speaker 2: Of and he had a bad record when he played
[40:55] Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Hawks this year.
[40:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[40:57] Speaker 2: Right, So that's the funny bright and it never you're
[41:00] Speaker 2: never guaranteed to get the first pick, even if you
[41:02] Speaker 2: lose in the game. Yeah. And now we're under a
[41:08] Speaker 2: month away from when Anthony Davis could get an extension.
[41:11] Speaker 2: It's August sixth his extension possibility. And you can speculate
[41:16] Speaker 2: and say, hey, they gave Trey this big contract because
[41:18] Speaker 2: they want to give Anthony Davis a contract. And they said, Okay,
[41:23] Speaker 2: we give you a big contract that will entice the
[41:28] Speaker 2: the Anthony Davis people that maybe you should sign here too.
[41:31] Speaker 2: If that's the rate they're going This is such an
[41:33] Speaker 2: odd team, right with how old they're getting. How old
[41:37] Speaker 2: are you?
[41:38] Speaker 1: But they have so much young talent.
[41:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on this two paths. It's intriguing. Anyway, about
[41:44] Speaker 2: four years, man, that's a long time anyway.
[41:46] Speaker 1: Next one here, Jonathan Kaminga has emerged as the Lakers'
[41:49] Speaker 1: top target to put the finishing touches on the revamped roster.
[41:54] Speaker 1: Mutual interest in getting a deal done. Apparently, according to
[41:57] Speaker 1: Brad Turner of the La Times, the Lakers want to
[41:59] Speaker 1: sign kaming to a two year, twenty million dollar contract.
[42:02] Speaker 1: Might have to be a sign in trade though with
[42:04] Speaker 1: the Hawks. Are you up er down pass on the
[42:06] Speaker 1: Lakers trying to acquire Jonathan Kaminga.
[42:09] Speaker 2: I'm done. I think they need another type of player.
[42:12] Speaker 2: They need some sort of perimeter defense and some size.
[42:17] Speaker 2: And we don't know what Jonathan Kmenica's future is going
[42:19] Speaker 2: to be here in the NBA. He played pretty well
[42:23] Speaker 2: to end his season with the Atlanta Hawks, that's for sure.
[42:26] Speaker 2: But if we're talking about the sign and trade, which
[42:29] Speaker 2: is going to be for way more money than the
[42:32] Speaker 2: Lakers can just give him under the cap because they
[42:36] Speaker 2: don't have a lot of room at all, it would
[42:39] Speaker 2: be for a lot more money, and you're really going
[42:42] Speaker 2: to look at a team that can just outscore teams. No,
[42:44] Speaker 2: jj Reddick did an incredible job last year getting this
[42:47] Speaker 2: team to play defense and buy in. But telling Jonathan
[42:51] Speaker 2: Comiera Cord in the New York Post, the report was
[42:54] Speaker 2: that he was told that he'd be a starting player.
[42:58] Speaker 2: You're you're getting into risky ground. I think there's just
[43:02] Speaker 2: better opportunities. Go try something cheaper like Matis stibles available. Oh,
[43:08] Speaker 2: Chaia Baji's available. Just a different type of guy now
[43:12] Speaker 2: with him. If you're talking about Kaminga along with Mammu
[43:16] Speaker 2: and Grimes, you're small, You're not an incredible perimeter defensive team.
[43:22] Speaker 2: I would say move on. Although you know potential with Kaminga,
[43:28] Speaker 2: of course, every single time that's the conversation, that's the
[43:30] Speaker 2: word you throw with Kaminga. But I think it's it's
[43:33] Speaker 2: risky Trey.
[43:34] Speaker 1: The reporting says Kaminga wants to be a Laker. The
[43:36] Speaker 1: Lakers want Kaminga, as I said. A source told the
[43:39] Speaker 1: Post that the Hawks are willing to execute a sign
[43:41] Speaker 1: and trade with the Lakers around the framework of Kaminga
[43:43] Speaker 1: going to LA and the Hawks receiving Jared Vanderbilt and
[43:46] Speaker 1: the Lakers twenty thirty two first round pick swamp, which
[43:50] Speaker 1: I think is basically like the only draft capital. Yes,
[43:52] Speaker 1: they would even have to dangle in a sign and
[43:55] Speaker 1: trade with Atlanta. What are your thoughts up or down?
[43:57] Speaker 3: I'm like sideways because I do think I think that
[44:00] Speaker 3: the Lakers need a big wing and they need athleticism.
[44:03] Speaker 3: Those are two things that certainly Kaminga brings for sure,
[44:06] Speaker 3: But what they really need from that big wing is
[44:08] Speaker 3: shooting and defense, which are not Cominga's strong points. But
[44:13] Speaker 3: you mentioned the other options like Thibel and Abagi are
[44:16] Speaker 3: on my list, but so are Zaier Williams and Bruce Brown.
[44:20] Speaker 3: Kaminga might be a better player than all four of
[44:22] Speaker 3: those guys. He's certainly more talented, yeah, than all four
[44:24] Speaker 3: of those guys. I think the cost is kind of low,
[44:27] Speaker 3: Like the Lakers are in for a penny, so they
[44:29] Speaker 3: should be in for a pound. They spent so much
[44:32] Speaker 3: on Walker Kessler, on Austin Reeves, on signing all of
[44:35] Speaker 3: their guys, throwing in a twenty thirty two swap, that's
[44:38] Speaker 3: kind of nothing compared to what they've already done. So
[44:41] Speaker 3: it's like, you know, playing poker. You're you're paying up
[44:44] Speaker 3: for your flush draw through four cards, you gotta pay
[44:47] Speaker 3: to see the fifth. So maybe they should do it.
[44:50] Speaker 3: There's just not a perfect fit out there for the
[44:52] Speaker 3: Lakers right now, because surely if Kaminga makes his way there,
[44:56] Speaker 3: JJ Reddick will be like, he just needs to be
[44:58] Speaker 3: our Shawn Marion. Yeah, and guess what, Sean Marion is
[45:01] Speaker 3: the perfect fit for this Lakers team. I'm talking prime
[45:03] Speaker 3: Sean Marion.
[45:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[45:04] Speaker 3: Sure, he guards up, he guards down, he rebounds, he
[45:07] Speaker 3: runs the court, he makes threes. Would have been the
[45:10] Speaker 3: perfect guy. But he played like ten years ago. Yeah, yeah,
[45:13] Speaker 3: so he's more like a warrior actually.
[45:17] Speaker 2: Fair enough. Anyway, in theory, trying to Thinkamega could dream
[45:21] Speaker 2: about being sewn Marion. Well, it happened, ever, I mean
[45:25] Speaker 2: JJ wreck again. He did a really good job of
[45:28] Speaker 2: getting stuff out of guys, So maybe it could happen.
[45:32] Speaker 1: I don't have it in the rundown here because it
[45:34] Speaker 1: happened right before we got into the Classic Factory. But
[45:37] Speaker 1: Jake Fisher, the People's Insider from the Steinlein, was talking
[45:41] Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Hawks possibly be interested being interested still
[45:44] Speaker 1: in Peyton Watson in a sign and trade with Denver
[45:49] Speaker 1: that they have their eyes maybe on him still, which
[45:52] Speaker 1: I think would be a great addition to the Atlanta Hawks,
[45:55] Speaker 1: and a player like that it could really slot in nicely.
[45:57] Speaker 1: I assume Receschet would be a guy going out and
[46:00] Speaker 1: then draft capital, which you know they have some of
[46:04] Speaker 1: something to watch. I like that move, I tweeted, I
[46:07] Speaker 1: think Tim Bontemps should advice advice on that. I like
[46:12] Speaker 1: the concept. I don't think it'll happen, but apparently they're
[46:14] Speaker 1: still in the running, are still interested at the very least.
[46:17] Speaker 2: The Nuggets, I assume want to keep Payton watch.
[46:20] Speaker 1: I think I would hope. So all right, next one, here,
[46:22] Speaker 1: a new group is pursuing an NBA team in Las Vegas,
[46:25] Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Jacks, led by Hall of Famer Jerry
[46:29] Speaker 1: Colangelo and former NBA coach Vinie Del Negro. There's a name,
[46:33] Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it a while, delgro Baby. So they
[46:37] Speaker 1: claim eight billion in total capital and promise to build
[46:42] Speaker 1: the most impressive, state of the art basketball arena in
[46:45] Speaker 1: the world. And here for everybody on YouTube is sort
[46:48] Speaker 1: of the logo or the the look attached to this
[46:53] Speaker 1: concept to the Las Vegas Jacks and this possibility of
[46:57] Speaker 1: an NBA expansion, so up or down on the name,
[47:00] Speaker 1: and you know the look obviously going with the playing
[47:02] Speaker 1: card Las Vegas Jack's tray.
[47:05] Speaker 3: I hate the look. I can't imagine this is real.
[47:10] Speaker 3: I know, this feels like somebody's slapped this one up
[47:12] Speaker 3: on AI to me. But the name is real. This
[47:15] Speaker 3: is the name that the Colangelo Vinnie del Negro group
[47:18] Speaker 3: is going with. That was a shock to me. I
[47:20] Speaker 3: didn't know Vinie del Negro had it like that. I
[47:22] Speaker 3: made like seventeen million in his career, but he's the
[47:24] Speaker 3: number two guy on the list here. That's crazy to me.
[47:26] Speaker 3: Maybe he's done awesome after playing. I don't know. If
[47:29] Speaker 3: you're looking at cards, Jacks is the highest available that's
[47:33] Speaker 3: out there. Cases gone, King's gone, Queen's They're not going
[47:37] Speaker 3: to do it. Jacks is all that left.
[47:39] Speaker 1: I think Queen's Queen's are not gonna do it. I
[47:42] Speaker 1: also was just assigned to a women's professional baseball team.
[47:47] Speaker 3: Well see now you can't double, now you can't. No, yeah,
[47:49] Speaker 3: so Jax, I guess it is technically the best available
[47:52] Speaker 3: card left test.
[47:53] Speaker 2: But it ain't gonna happen. Noah, think about the broadcasters.
[47:57] Speaker 2: Jack's off to a great start. You don't want to
[48:02] Speaker 2: do that.
[48:03] Speaker 1: It's pretty fun.
[48:05] Speaker 2: There's better names.
[48:05] Speaker 3: They gotta get smooth Peterson if the Jacks are gonna
[48:08] Speaker 3: be off, Okay, better names.
[48:12] Speaker 2: Even the Sharks is better. If you want the poker
[48:15] Speaker 2: tie in, Oh, inferno because it's hot, in Vegas, fire
[48:22] Speaker 2: because it's hot.
[48:23] Speaker 1: When we did our fun expansion Vault, we went with
[48:25] Speaker 1: Las Vegas Venom. I think we just went with Las Vegas.
[48:28] Speaker 2: Vault is better. I've decided. Yeah, it's a great arena name.
[48:33] Speaker 2: I mean, it's the Vault.
[48:36] Speaker 1: For the team.
[48:37] Speaker 2: The Vault is kind of odd. You know, you want
[48:40] Speaker 2: a team with no s. I don't know the Vaults.
[48:45] Speaker 2: That's too weird. Either way, it's happening. The team is happening.
[48:50] Speaker 2: There another arena. They need another arena, although they're starting,
[48:54] Speaker 2: according to the press report, in the Team Obile arena,
[48:56] Speaker 2: which is already existing and looks like an.
[49:00] Speaker 3: Totally total a yeah, totally fine arena. But the owner
[49:05] Speaker 3: of the aces is also has their own bid and
[49:08] Speaker 3: they're like, we're gonna make the arena better. Yeah, going forward,
[49:11] Speaker 3: Whereas the Jacks plan is playing Team Mobile for a year.
[49:15] Speaker 3: Raise up to thirteen billion dollars and build our own
[49:18] Speaker 3: stadium in Las Vegas. So the fact that the other
[49:22] Speaker 3: group already has a stadium means me think that they're
[49:25] Speaker 3: probably ahead, But I don't know. I do think that
[49:29] Speaker 3: this announcement was timed with Summer League launching though. Yeah,
[49:31] Speaker 3: every guys in Las Vegas, let's talk about Vegas.
[49:34] Speaker 2: I know Vinnie del Negro is the second name listed,
[49:37] Speaker 2: but I don't think he has much as much money
[49:39] Speaker 2: as David Levy. Yeah, he's just he's just thrown in
[49:44] Speaker 2: their second. Also, Scott Colangelo thrown in there. Also Jay
[49:48] Speaker 2: Williams former Oh yeah, the former player also thrown in there.
[49:52] Speaker 2: They're throwing in a lot of names here. Oh yeah,
[49:54] Speaker 2: I got them all. I think I listed them all.
[49:56] Speaker 3: CEO Jonathan Thomas, I saw was also.
[49:58] Speaker 1: Part of the Great Thomas from Uh.
[50:04] Speaker 3: He's actually the one that's going to be in charge
[50:05] Speaker 3: of building the stadium. Sweet Al?
[50:14] Speaker 2: Was that Al?
[50:15] Speaker 1: And I'm like, hold on, that's married with children. We
[50:16] Speaker 1: had two owls, two famous als. Yeah, Owl's are on
[50:20] Speaker 1: top of the world.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Back then, I didn't recognize the name Jonathan Thomas because
[50:24] Speaker 2: it's he's a three named guys yeah, Jonathan Taylor.
[50:27] Speaker 1: No one's ever called him just Jonathan Thomas.
[50:29] Speaker 2: But all right, next one here.
[50:34] Speaker 1: After officially signing with the Miami Heat on Monday, questions
[50:37] Speaker 1: arose about what number Tim Hardaway Junior would wear. We
[50:40] Speaker 1: talked about it. He's rock number ten several times at
[50:43] Speaker 1: previous stops Atlanta, Dallas, Dember, but that number was up
[50:46] Speaker 1: in the rafters in Miami thanks to his dad, Hall
[50:48] Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Hardaway Senior. Well, he did get pop's
[50:53] Speaker 1: blessings after all to wear number ten. And here's the photo.
[50:57] Speaker 1: It's official. I think even Parrelly Joe about it, of
[51:01] Speaker 1: handing over the number ten Hardaway. There, Hardaway Junior too young, Tim,
[51:06] Speaker 1: So it's like this went back and forth for weeks,
[51:10] Speaker 1: it felt like. But in the NTK, are you up
[51:12] Speaker 1: or down on Tim Hardaway Junior wearing his father's retired
[51:15] Speaker 1: number ten?
[51:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good. I mean Tim Hardaway Junior has
[51:18] Speaker 3: won ten in three other places. The times he didn't
[51:20] Speaker 3: wear it was because it was retired for whoever. I
[51:23] Speaker 3: like what he said when they were talking about the
[51:25] Speaker 3: jersey said, I think the first go around was a
[51:27] Speaker 3: personal decision. The second go around was a family decision.
[51:30] Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it at that.
[51:31] Speaker 3: He said, Yeah, the Tim's wear the jerseys and the
[51:36] Speaker 3: mom wears the pants is what it seems like to me.
[51:39] Speaker 3: And then pat Riley hooked up Tim Hardaway Junior with
[51:41] Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway Senior's old locker, so everybody wanted this to happen.
[51:44] Speaker 2: There we go.
[51:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tim Hardaway Senior originally said the concept of
[51:49] Speaker 1: like that number ten is not coming down from the rafters,
[51:52] Speaker 1: even it's for my son. In twenty twenty four, I
[51:55] Speaker 1: think that's where it first started. I think he was
[51:57] Speaker 1: talking to Haslo and Mike Miller on what's the name
[52:00] Speaker 1: of that podcast start has them? Yeah, is that still
[52:05] Speaker 1: an active I don't know. It was called The OG's Show.
[52:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, geez I forgot Yeah.
[52:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Mike Miller, Oh no, yeah, I would have
[52:17] Speaker 1: known that.
[52:18] Speaker 2: I would have got there.
[52:19] Speaker 1: You know a lot about playing.
[52:23] Speaker 2: You mentioned pants and who wears the pants. What Tim
[52:26] Speaker 2: Hardaway should get done is somebody to iron his pants.
[52:29] Speaker 2: There's a big wrinkle in those pants. I mean, this
[52:32] Speaker 2: is your uh maybe it's the low camera shot there,
[52:35] Speaker 2: but it could be better. You know, there's a wrinkle there.
[52:39] Speaker 2: Let's work on that. Increase. But he had his best
[52:41] Speaker 2: season last year wearing number ten. Just let him keep
[52:45] Speaker 2: wearing it. That was year thirteen. This guy's been in
[52:48] Speaker 2: the LEA for thirteen years and he's I think he's peaked.
[52:52] Speaker 2: This is this is I mean not in a bad way,
[52:55] Speaker 2: but he has peaked in year number thirteen, so I
[52:57] Speaker 2: think this is this is great for him. The Nuggets
[52:59] Speaker 2: question is interesting. He left the Nuggets. The bench was great.
[53:02] Speaker 2: Leonna Salchun is also not going back to the Nuggets bench.
[53:05] Speaker 2: They were really good when Jokic went to the bench
[53:09] Speaker 2: last year, which is weird because we all think, oh,
[53:12] Speaker 2: the non Jokic minutes, they stink. They're only outscored by
[53:16] Speaker 2: two point nine points per hundred possessions with Jokic off
[53:18] Speaker 2: the court last season and outscored, that means they're bad.
[53:21] Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter with Jokic and Jokic in previous seasons.
[53:25] Speaker 2: They're getting destroyed. Tim Hardawaves was improved.
[53:28] Speaker 1: It was great, It was improved.
[53:29] Speaker 2: He was that's going to be an interre. You mentioned
[53:31] Speaker 2: Peyton Watson maybe bouncing around the league. Who was who
[53:35] Speaker 2: helped out that team? This is an odd season, but
[53:40] Speaker 2: or odd offseason I should say for the Nuggets. But hey,
[53:43] Speaker 2: great for Tim. Good for you Tim, Good for Tim.
[53:47] Speaker 1: Uh, he will be wearing number ten. Looks good, looks good.
[53:49] Speaker 1: I like how it looks on the jersey. All right,
[53:52] Speaker 1: we'll call it there with the updown report. We're actually
[53:54] Speaker 1: going to have a bonus up down question on substack
[53:59] Speaker 1: soon after this.
[54:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be involved in these
[54:03] Speaker 2: pop tarts because somebody brought it up the other day.
[54:06] Speaker 2: We started talking about pop tarts. We had somebody email
[54:09] Speaker 2: in and say, hey, my fiance says that the strawberry
[54:13] Speaker 2: pop tarts are better without the frosting. Big discussion here,
[54:17] Speaker 2: and then Skeet's mentioned he had never had a pop
[54:19] Speaker 2: tart never, Well, you're gonna have one now. It's the
[54:23] Speaker 2: official snack of US soccer. You're gonna be way fitter
[54:27] Speaker 2: after having But we got you. We got your regular
[54:30] Speaker 2: strawberry with frosting, oat course.
[54:33] Speaker 1: So we'll do a little taste test for the first
[54:34] Speaker 1: time ever on substack. Linca's in the show notes. Go
[54:37] Speaker 1: join us over there, bonus up down all right, before
[54:42] Speaker 1: we go rapid fire questions, JD, you got the cues,
[54:45] Speaker 1: we got the answers.
[54:47] Speaker 5: Yes, I have the questions, I have the volume, I
[54:51] Speaker 5: have the music.
[54:52] Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
[54:53] Speaker 5: Guys, John Elmore, this guy is the oldest player at
[54:59] Speaker 5: Summer this year, which depressingly means he's thirty years old. Guys,
[55:04] Speaker 5: he's been bouncing around playing basketball all over the world
[55:07] Speaker 5: for the last seven years. Each your heart out, Lee Ellis.
[55:11] Speaker 5: And before that, he played at Marshall from twenty fifteen
[55:14] Speaker 5: to twenty nineteen and left campus a legend. Guys, what's
[55:20] Speaker 5: something you could get into at the absolute last second
[55:24] Speaker 5: and somehow convince everyone that you still belong skeets.
[55:28] Speaker 1: A tour guide? Okay, guide, Yeah, it doesn't matter really
[55:33] Speaker 1: for what I think I could fake it. Just read
[55:35] Speaker 1: the signs sort of. Yeah, just walk around with confidence,
[55:38] Speaker 1: talk with confidence.
[55:39] Speaker 3: Here's a building.
[55:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, I like people. I can talk out my ass
[55:43] Speaker 1: for it for a little bit. Yeah, So I think
[55:46] Speaker 1: I could just pull it off, he said, step in
[55:47] Speaker 1: last second. If a tour guide suddenly came down with
[55:50] Speaker 1: the flu, like we need somebody, It's like people yelling
[55:53] Speaker 1: he's anybody a doctor here? Does anybody on a tour guy? Here?
[55:57] Speaker 1: I put my hand off either gout one they're like, yeah, sure,
[56:00] Speaker 1: what are we doing?
[56:00] Speaker 3: Give me a map?
[56:01] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[56:02] Speaker 1: Oh I'm a good map reader. Actually directional I'm very
[56:05] Speaker 1: good at is a good skill of mine.
[56:07] Speaker 2: So tour, what would be the tour guy that you wanted?
[56:13] Speaker 1: Like, I see a city tour like you know, on
[56:15] Speaker 1: a bus. No, I would. I think I'd be better walking.
[56:18] Speaker 1: I'm a good walker.
[56:21] Speaker 4: One would be able to keep.
[56:22] Speaker 1: I'd be gone. People would be on like the second,
[56:26] Speaker 1: you know, attraction would be already be done.
[56:29] Speaker 3: That's a fast tour.
[56:30] Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly is there like do you know of like
[56:34] Speaker 5: is there I mean Stratford, Ontario? I guess you could
[56:36] Speaker 5: probably give a tour of like, but is there somewhere
[56:40] Speaker 5: that you can actually actually have facts?
[56:44] Speaker 4: And oh?
[56:45] Speaker 1: I guess I would have the best chance of Well,
[56:49] Speaker 1: but like, I mean you put me in Vegas. There's
[56:53] Speaker 1: enough things that I could tell you about, enough personal story.
[56:57] Speaker 3: That a little flavor tour, you know, photos in there? Yeah, exactly.
[57:01] Speaker 3: That's pen and Teller. Are they a magic show or
[57:04] Speaker 3: our comedy show? They don't know.
[57:07] Speaker 1: We got kicked out of a Penn and Teller show.
[57:09] Speaker 1: He was heckling them. You're not supposed to do that
[57:11] Speaker 1: at a magic show. Uh yeah, no, I feel confident,
[57:14] Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I'm thinking I'm not Yeah, just
[57:16] Speaker 1: to pull it off for one day? Sure, Because also
[57:19] Speaker 1: people like you gotta remember they got no fucking idea.
[57:22] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[57:23] Speaker 1: Their reason they're on the tour is they have no clue.
[57:26] Speaker 1: So I can just make things up and they're like, wow,
[57:28] Speaker 1: that's amazing.
[57:30] Speaker 2: What happens if the mic sucks? Because that happens with
[57:32] Speaker 2: tour Sometimes they get a mic and you just don't
[57:36] Speaker 2: want to listen to them?
[57:38] Speaker 1: Would do it? Mic Liss?
[57:40] Speaker 2: Good for you.
[57:40] Speaker 1: I can project, and you know I can command. I
[57:43] Speaker 1: think ten to twelve people, whatever the group is. Yeah, yeah,
[57:48] Speaker 1: so yeah gather around good one.
[57:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, can I swear on this tour?
[57:54] Speaker 1: Do any of these little fuckers come out all jiz
[57:57] Speaker 1: all over the place?
[57:59] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[57:59] Speaker 5: After tassy, what's something you can still get into at
[58:03] Speaker 5: the last possible.
[58:05] Speaker 4: Second and convince people who still belong.
[58:07] Speaker 2: Here's a weird answer. I could be a Spanish speaking
[58:10] Speaker 2: sports interviewer. Wow, wow, ye Espanol. Me favorita idioma s Espanol.
[58:22] Speaker 2: Because this was inspired by one of our fans said, hey,
[58:26] Speaker 2: you look like the Mexican JJ Redick and so I
[58:30] Speaker 2: could easily fit in to you know those Uh, there's
[58:33] Speaker 2: Instagram videos of guys who go around speaking to Spanish people.
[58:39] Speaker 2: English not their first language, so they've got an accent.
[58:42] Speaker 2: They read a sports team. He goes, what does the
[58:45] Speaker 2: sports team say, essentially, and they would say merely woke
[58:50] Speaker 2: books and then the split spring comes up of several
[58:54] Speaker 2: books and everybody laughs. He said books, not box.
[58:59] Speaker 1: So that's they're hilarious. Love your algorithm.
[59:06] Speaker 2: They are funny. Every single sports team. He won't put
[59:09] Speaker 2: it up unless somebody says something that's easy to throw
[59:13] Speaker 2: up in a split screen that looks dumb. I'm trying
[59:17] Speaker 2: to think of another one. I guess. I guess I
[59:19] Speaker 2: don't love it enough. I haven't seen it a long time.
[59:22] Speaker 3: Do you in your algorithm? Do you have the guy
[59:25] Speaker 3: who is constantly rolling burritos and also at the same
[59:29] Speaker 3: time teaching you different like idioms in Spanish don't say no,
[59:34] Speaker 3: say this, this, this, this, this. I love that, and
[59:37] Speaker 3: he's got nice roles.
[59:38] Speaker 1: No, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
[59:41] Speaker 3: That one's served up to me quite a bit.
[59:42] Speaker 2: So it has nothing to do what he's saying, has
[59:44] Speaker 2: nothing to do with it.
[59:46] Speaker 3: Don't say I'm doing okay, say yeah, I'm chilling.
[59:52] Speaker 1: Like slang yeah yeah, slang exactly.
[59:56] Speaker 2: No, it's only Greek in my my my idio algorithm.
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: But I think I guess they have that for every language, essentially,
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: like what you should say.
[1:00:07] Speaker 3: Frequent guys folding up an that's how everyone a hot
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: dog and a bunch sliding on down.
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: Don't say cool, say wicked.
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: I'll starting that as tray.
[1:00:25] Speaker 4: What's something you can get into in the last possible say.
[1:00:28] Speaker 3: If a J Hawk's ever sick, I could fill in,
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: no problem. If you're here watch.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: For the podcast listener trade just not in the way,
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: just like a J Hawk style and he's on the back. Yes, spot,
[1:00:45] Speaker 1: I think you were actually reacting a lot more than
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: he barely moves his head.
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: Man all right.
[1:00:56] Speaker 5: Next one we learned this week Washington Wizard's rookie I
[1:01:00] Speaker 5: had the pride of Kitchener. He can't say Kitchener's finest.
[1:01:02] Speaker 5: I guess because they now have one of those. Will
[1:01:05] Speaker 5: Riley had a little pandemic side hustle cutting hair twenty
[1:01:09] Speaker 5: dollars cuts five bucks. If you just want to line
[1:01:12] Speaker 5: up guys, what's a tiny cottage industry. You could start
[1:01:16] Speaker 5: today if you absolutely had two skeets.
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: A fairly new development, a little side hustle I could do.
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: I think I'd be good at pest control.
[1:01:26] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: I've been dealing with some outdoor ants, not indoor. Keep
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: them out, yeah, but a little too much around the porch.
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: I really get invested in tracking them. I like to
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: see what they're doing.
[1:01:40] Speaker 4: Where are they going?
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, home exactly basically, I mean, yeah, where's your
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: hill at that? I want to know where home is
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: so we can take it out. So, you know, I
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: think I've learned a lot over the last a couple
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: of weeks, and I've taken down taken down metropolitans. Also, yeah,
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: have me over it all.
[1:02:00] Speaker 5: Yeah wow, Yeah, you're pretty good at like just like
[1:02:03] Speaker 5: single handedly taking out bugs as well.
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, if you fly, just have me over
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: and now I'll get it. But I've yeah, I've now
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: gotten into ants. Yeah.
[1:02:16] Speaker 3: I saw uh an infomercial last night for something called
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: the bug assault gun. It's like bug dash a dash
[1:02:24] Speaker 3: S a l T. Because it's a gun that you
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: pumped full assault and shoot it at the crap and
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: it's like interesting, the power of the salt rifle kills
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: the bugs. That was crazy to me, but I was like,
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: I would order that.
[1:02:39] Speaker 1: I'm just using a lot of traps that you know,
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: these dumb workers are going to take back to the
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: to the Queen, to the to the hive and kill everybody.
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: And every time I drop one down, I'm like, holy crap,
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: have no idea, you stupid it. Like they're pumped right there,
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: come flock into this stuff, and they must be like
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: shuck put baby, like this stuff must taste awesome. They're
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: rushing back who get it back there first? Little do
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: they know it's gonna take out the whole entire population.
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: Man, do you do the underground houses, homes, metropolitans because apparently, yeah,
[1:03:15] Speaker 2: they can get deep deep in there. Yeah, because we've
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: had a bunch of we've had the issue. Bugs are
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: coming out from anywhere, but there's no visible Ah yeah
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: yeah mountain.
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: I think they're under the porch and stuff like that.
[1:03:28] Speaker 1: Like I'm not I'm not ripping up boards to go
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: get them. Because this stuff works. It's incredible. It's like
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: give it a day and then you're like that trail
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: of ants that you saw, they're gone.
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: Man.
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: Wow, I'm like Santos, I'm like my fingers, take it out, civilizations.
[1:03:46] Speaker 4: It's cold.
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: I know it's cold, man, but I don't want You're
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: getting too close, guys, Yeah, too close to the house.
[1:03:52] Speaker 4: Encroaching. You're encroaching.
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: Now you out in the yard, you do you. I
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: got no problem with it. I don't go searching for you.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: But you're just getting closer to my fortune.
[1:04:02] Speaker 4: A tiny cottage industry you can start today if you have.
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: Actually will Will Riley doing his haircuts, that's also part
[1:04:08] Speaker 2: of my algorithm. Like young people doing haircuts. Interesting, Yeah,
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: people are doing.
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: It transformative, is it? Well? I mean you see something
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: that come in with a big old mob head of hair.
[1:04:21] Speaker 3: They got a sweet fade.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: You're like, wow, cool cool.
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: I've been algorithm by.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: That as well.
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: Our buddy, our buddy Ken did this for a lot
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, I got my haircut. I can
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: for years in his little, uh little side bathroom there.
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: He was making some money by the end of it,
[1:04:38] Speaker 1: big clientele, not stop people coming in.
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: That was incredible, going to start his own algorithm. He
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: also is eating seven thousand calories a day. I read
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: that separately. Has nothing to do with haircuts. But he's
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: trying to trying to bulke up seven thousand calories. That's
[1:04:51] Speaker 2: a lot.
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: That's skinny, sky skinny. Yeah, to put it on.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: I thought he did look a little bigger last night.
[1:04:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's your industry? Cuts?
[1:05:02] Speaker 2: Garden edging, like framing it, you know with those either
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: a plastic or metal framing.
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: You've been doing something.
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty easy you either either just can go
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: jammer don't need anything like.
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: No, you don't hammer soft hammer.
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: It's a Jammer hammer.
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: Gammer hammer. It's a great business name.
[1:05:22] Speaker 1: You're allowed to do that.
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: And there's no way, no way you're allowed to do that.
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: You're gonna get You're incorrect, You're incorrect, JD. You think
[1:05:33] Speaker 2: that we can't have what was your first rule? No,
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: absolutely not allowed clothes lines. I guess that's questionable.
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: That one's more of a you could argue as dumb
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: as it is. People be like that's an iore, Yeah.
[1:05:47] Speaker 4: Of course.
[1:05:47] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: But this man I'm putting up, I'm putting up so
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: much weird stuff I've got. I've got a huge what
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: I call a baseball net behind my my house. It's
[1:05:58] Speaker 2: not really a baseball net, just like it's like a
[1:06:01] Speaker 2: soccer net.
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, fifteen.
[1:06:04] Speaker 2: I'm sure it's an icehore to some people. I going
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: to start putting up a playground for my kids. A
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: boy that it is risky doing it. No, I don't.
[1:06:13] Speaker 2: I don't want one of those. I don't want to playground.
[1:06:17] Speaker 5: I want you to do it just to yeah, just
[1:06:19] Speaker 5: to see.
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's been some problems.
[1:06:23] Speaker 4: There has been some problems in my neighborhood.
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, literally h o a calling back saying hey
[1:06:29] Speaker 2: hey hey you you literally as calling back. I mean
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: you literally have to undo what you did, undo a
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: deck or something like that. That's crazy.
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, like you did
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: your you redid your deck at one point, Like did
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: you have to got okay and everything?
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't did I know? Did I No? I
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: don't think I did. I wouldn't do that. I take
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: it back.
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: I couldn't see you doing that.
[1:06:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, because the rule, the rule for the the the
[1:07:02] Speaker 2: person who had to undo their their deck was that
[1:07:07] Speaker 2: it was a you know that, there's a term for it.
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: Essentially it's a water stopper, like it essentially doesn't allow
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: for water to penetrate to.
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: Go through it.
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's insane. There's gaps, and so I
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: think that's why I said, that's fine, you can put
[1:07:24] Speaker 2: up some some two by fours or whatever. Mine was wood.
[1:07:27] Speaker 2: Theirs was more of that the plastic, uh you know
[1:07:32] Speaker 2: those upgraded plastics or upcycled plastic type of stuff that's
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: still blowney. They're still there are still gaps. But anyway,
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: they didn't take it down. They did full deck. Well, yeah, yeah,
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: you go get it taken up or taken down as well.
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see it? No?
[1:07:55] Speaker 2: I didn't, Yeah, no, I actually I did. I fluid drone.
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: It was to.
[1:08:05] Speaker 1: Measuring the gaps between the board.
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: That's thinking of water.
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: Are you going to drink water? Penetration trey.
[1:08:11] Speaker 5: What's a tiny cottage industry you could start today if
[1:08:14] Speaker 5: you absolutely had to.
[1:08:15] Speaker 3: Our pool doesn't have a concession stand. But I think
[1:08:18] Speaker 3: I could run like a solid case of da shop
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: out of like one of the back.
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: Rooms teaching slang.
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: Wi.
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea. Actually, I think case is
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: the way to go. Like you see him, you'll see
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: him at like a street festival or whatever. A guy
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: with the blackstone just whipping out case a das non stuff.
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: It looked good to me. Yeah, yeah, I think I
[1:08:39] Speaker 3: could do that.
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: You're keeping it simple, keeping it.
[1:08:43] Speaker 3: Same, same the poolboards talking about maybe putting one in
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: the next year. So I got a lot of recipe
[1:08:48] Speaker 3: testing to get different Jesus, different cheeses, different proteins, obviously
[1:08:56] Speaker 3: different tortillas. I mean you're talking about all the components.
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was just a cheese. But if
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: you're throwing in protein.
[1:09:03] Speaker 3: I mean premium offering.
[1:09:06] Speaker 5: It's a perfect place to shoot your American slang right
[1:09:09] Speaker 5: in case it is.
[1:09:12] Speaker 3: Jump call it a cannon ball, call it a c ball.
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: Cue balls, you can call them cue balls?
[1:09:20] Speaker 3: Sure, why not?
[1:09:23] Speaker 2: Sound could be implying cocaine though, you know.
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: That type of c I want was to gi the
[1:09:31] Speaker 1: letter C A good point.
[1:09:32] Speaker 5: Billiards too, all right, last one, guys. Tyrese Haliburton jumped
[1:09:36] Speaker 5: on Next this week and asked what's you'll favorite movie
[1:09:40] Speaker 5: sequel of all time?
[1:09:42] Speaker 4: His picks down of the Planet of the Apes and.
[1:09:45] Speaker 5: Sister Acts Too Many immediately followed up I'm sorry, go ahead,
[1:09:52] Speaker 5: and he immediately followed it up with forgot the Dark
[1:09:55] Speaker 5: Knight is a sequel? Shaking my head has to be
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: on the list. Sorry, Tyree. See you said, Sister two
[1:10:02] Speaker 5: that bell cannot be unwrung. So, guys, what's your favorite
[1:10:06] Speaker 5: movie sequel of all time?
[1:10:07] Speaker 4: Skits?
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: I think there are three obvious answers here, much better
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: than I think the list that Terry Telibert was doing there,
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: The Godfather Part two, sure, Terminator two, Yes, and my
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: personal favorite and my answer, Back to the Future Part two.
[1:10:21] Speaker 3: Wow.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: I love Back to the Future Part two.
[1:10:24] Speaker 5: Me too, but I kind of you need three with
[1:10:27] Speaker 5: it though, no, or just the middle chat.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: I don't need three with it. I mean it's a trilogy,
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: so I will watch it and still enjoy it. But
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: I do love Back to the.
[1:10:35] Speaker 4: Future Part two.
[1:10:36] Speaker 1: That's great. It is great time travel story. Yeah, man,
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: But those are the to me, the three obvious ones.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: There's a lot of other ones too, And if I
[1:10:45] Speaker 2: had your answer, if I knew your answer, I could
[1:10:47] Speaker 2: have putten up that I still as soon as you said,
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: I have that photo of you and the Dolorean. This
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: is way back.
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: You have a photo of me and a door.
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a DeLorean from Toronto.
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: Oh wow, hey send me that pick it probably is.
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: I assume it is. I guess sometimes you see them
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: around late night photos. It's super dark wow anyway from Toronto.
[1:11:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have it. I I'm a hoarder. Uh,
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: I don't think. I swear. I didn't know. The second
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: part of this answer was The Batman Dark Knight. I
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: didn't I didn't even read that, but that was my answer.
[1:11:35] Speaker 2: It's The Dark Knight.
[1:11:36] Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, very good sequel, very good.
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is the great one I once
[1:11:44] Speaker 2: stood out to me. That's my pick.
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, a lot of good sequels out there. You
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: guys have named a bunch of them. Like official answer,
[1:11:52] Speaker 3: I would probably say The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly,
[1:11:54] Speaker 3: but I don't really think of it as a sequel.
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: But it's an awesome movie, and it is a part
[1:11:57] Speaker 3: of a trilogy. It's the third one. So instead I'll
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: pick National Treasure Book of Secrets, which I just watched
[1:12:04] Speaker 3: this week. My sister was like, are you gonna watch
[1:12:07] Speaker 3: an American movie for Fourth of July. I was like, yeah,
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: of course, Independence Day, so I watched it, but you
[1:12:11] Speaker 3: should also watch National Treasure. I was like, National Treasure
[1:12:14] Speaker 3: is so dumb, Like the climax of the original National
[1:12:17] Speaker 3: Treasure involves wearing Ben Franklin's five D glasses. It was
[1:12:24] Speaker 3: so dumb. I'm like, okay, I'll watch Book of Secrets.
[1:12:28] Speaker 3: Book of Secrets was pretty good, really, and it ended
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: on a cliff an hear that it was legitimately like,
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: I'm not gonna find that what's on page forty seven
[1:12:36] Speaker 3: of the Book of Secrets.
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: Wow?
[1:12:38] Speaker 5: Wow?
[1:12:39] Speaker 3: So I don't know what they're up to, but I
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: enjoyed it. I couldn't believe I enjoyed Book of Secrets,
[1:12:44] Speaker 3: National Treasure.
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: There's another one coming then if it ended what.
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: They did it, I think they did a series series. Yeah.
[1:12:53] Speaker 3: I don't know if they addressed page forty seven. But
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: Nick's not back now, And if Benjamin Gates isn't finding
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: the artifle, I'm not in because I wasn't actually really
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: in It's a Book of Secrets, but I had to
[1:13:04] Speaker 3: do it for my sister, and I was pleasantly surprised.
[1:13:06] Speaker 1: All right, treasure that is Nick ky?
[1:13:10] Speaker 5: Yeah?
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahkay, in both, he's in both.
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: He's in both.
[1:13:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, JD.
[1:13:15] Speaker 1: Do you have an answer to this with a movie?
[1:13:16] Speaker 4: Guys?
[1:13:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:13:19] Speaker 5: The Wrath of khn is probably my favorite sequel. Other
[1:13:21] Speaker 5: than I'm Para strikes back.
[1:13:23] Speaker 4: But Wrath of Cohn is so.
[1:13:26] Speaker 5: Far beyond Star Trek the motion picture, like it's just
[1:13:29] Speaker 5: a completely reinvents the whole thing, you.
[1:13:33] Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: So well, in doing a little research, I did see
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: Superman two was on some people's list.
[1:13:42] Speaker 4: That's crazy.
[1:13:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I was a little shocked. I bring
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: that up because coming next week, next Friday, we are
[1:13:49] Speaker 1: going to be pitching our movie franchises for what we
[1:13:55] Speaker 1: might do this summer as part of our film franchise
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: Rewatch and Review. We've done Fast and Furious franchise, We've
[1:14:02] Speaker 1: done Jurassic Park, We're doing a new one. We're each
[1:14:05] Speaker 1: gonna come to the table with a different franchise and
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: uh and pitch it to each other and to you
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: because you're gonna be able to vote on it. So
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: Superman is involved, Yes, I said, podcast JD's pitching that one.
[1:14:17] Speaker 4: So they got gathering.
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: They they got way too many, way too many. So
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: that's that's next Friday. I'll be a lot of fun,
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: a little different obviously outside of the NBA content. Otherwise, though,
[1:14:29] Speaker 1: we're back on Monday, I guess gearing up for hopefully
[1:14:33] Speaker 1: the official Kawhi Leonard Trade. It's Tuesday, right, the Board
[1:14:37] Speaker 1: of Governor's meeting. Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk a little
[1:14:41] Speaker 1: bit more about Summer League, everything else happening in the NBA.
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: You're off though, for a vacation, a little time with them.
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll miss a couple of shows next week.
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but we will be here Monday. Wednesday
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: is the plan. Friday is the movie franchise pitching podcast.
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: So we'll love content for you. Hit the like button, subscribe,
[1:14:59] Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews until then, Clipper bro, you
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: heard it.
[1:15:03] Speaker 3: Here first, have a great time, turn up. Love you
[1:15:06] Speaker 3: guys awesome.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Jerry Bruckheimer produced National
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: Treasure Book of Secrets, and I just I'm just plugging
[1:15:15] Speaker 2: my series that I'll be pitching. Yeah, it's aim Yeah,
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: love me some Bruckheimer's apparently.
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,

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