# Seven Takeaways From ESPN's 'Behind The Scenes Giannis Trade' Column

An episode of [No Dunks](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1468409996), 27 Jun 2026, 23 min.

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On Sat.'s bonus ep. of No Dunks, Skeets unpacks Ramona Shelburne and Jamal Collier's "Behind the scenes of the Giannis Antetokounmpo trade" article. Topics discussed include reports of Giannis killing previous trade offers, the real timeline of him requesting a trade out of Milwaukee, who was really to blame for the erosion of the Bucks' culture and discipline, why trading away Jrue Holiday in the fall of 2023 was the beginning of the end, and more. 🗞️ Behind the scenes of the Giannis trade: the restless final hours: https://bit.ly/4f853eo ✍️ No Dunks' Substack has ad-free episodes: https://nodunks.substack.com/ 👕 Fix up, look sharp in No Dunks merch: https://bit.ly/4qi6nin 📈 Subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube: YouTube.com/nodunksinc 𝕏 Follow No Dunks on Twitter/X: https://x.com/NoDunksInc 📸 Follow No Dunks on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodunksinc/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: The day's see World and welcome to the No Dungks Podcast,
[0:16] Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Saturday, June twenty seventh, twenty
[0:21] Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Yard with
[0:25] Speaker 1: a little something different today, a deep dive into Ramona
[0:30] Speaker 1: Shelbourne and Jamal Collier's ESPN article titled behind the Scenes
[0:36] Speaker 1: of They Honest Trade the Restless Final Hours. I am
[0:41] Speaker 1: a sicko for these post mortem type articles. I've linked
[0:46] Speaker 1: to it in the show notes. It's right there, click
[0:48] Speaker 1: on it. Highly recommend you give it a read. There
[0:52] Speaker 1: are seven key quotes, key parts that I wanted to
[0:57] Speaker 1: dissect with all of y'all. Humor me if you will.
[1:01] Speaker 1: I have no idea if this is going to be
[1:03] Speaker 1: interesting to any of you out there. If it is,
[1:06] Speaker 1: hit the like button, subscribe, comment away, drop those five
[1:10] Speaker 1: star ratings and reviews. We're waiting on the next emergency
[1:15] Speaker 1: podcast for a potential jail in Brown Trade. Otherwise, we're
[1:20] Speaker 1: back on Monday in the Classic Factory, breaking down all
[1:24] Speaker 1: the NBA slop and NBA transactions that we've had over
[1:27] Speaker 1: the last little bit. Heartinstein, New Deal, Isaiah Joe to
[1:31] Speaker 1: the Pistons, and so on. But that's Monday. Today, on
[1:34] Speaker 1: the weekend, we're looking at this ESPN article. I've got
[1:39] Speaker 1: quote boards here from the column for everyone on YouTube.
[1:45] Speaker 1: I've emphasized key parts sort of did like the old
[1:48] Speaker 1: bold in a different color. But I'll make sure to
[1:50] Speaker 1: read the whole quote for all of you podcast listeners.
[1:54] Speaker 1: I think the plan is to flip this into a podcast. Hell,
[1:57] Speaker 1: I'll even do a fan duel ad read we got
[1:59] Speaker 1: to pay them, baby, So let's just get right into it. Uh,
[2:03] Speaker 1: first interesting part to me from again Ramona Shelburne's article
[2:08] Speaker 1: on ESPN. I'll add it to the screen and here
[2:12] Speaker 1: we go. So Bucks general manager John Horst had canvassed
[2:17] Speaker 1: the league for months, fielding offers and presenting them to
[2:21] Speaker 1: his front office and ownership group, then getting feedback from
[2:26] Speaker 1: Jiannis's camp as to whether he'd be willing to extend
[2:30] Speaker 1: his contract with those teams. At least four strong bids
[2:36] Speaker 1: had died on the vine after Yannis rejected them. Multiple
[2:41] Speaker 1: sources with knowledge of them say, I've obviously emphasized there
[2:46] Speaker 1: the four strong bids died on the vine, So Jannis
[2:51] Speaker 1: and his team putting their thumb on the scale. Here,
[2:54] Speaker 1: we weren't getting a lot of this, but they were
[2:56] Speaker 1: doing it behind the scenes, at least according to the
[3:00] Speaker 1: reporting and other reporting has said. What other suitors in
[3:04] Speaker 1: the past year have included the Timberwolves, the Trail Blazers,
[3:09] Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic, the Golden State Warriors, the New York
[3:13] Speaker 1: Knicks definitely before the championship, the Lakers, So all of
[3:18] Speaker 1: this I find very fascinating. And then of course the
[3:20] Speaker 1: Heat make the deal, and the Celtics were the other
[3:23] Speaker 1: lone team trying to get Yiannis for Jaelen Brown. I
[3:28] Speaker 1: just love going through these hypothetical teams here, the ones
[3:31] Speaker 1: we know of. I mean that maybe there are other
[3:32] Speaker 1: ones that have somehow remained quiet. But Minnesota we can
[3:38] Speaker 1: safely assume they were trying to trade Julius Randall or
[3:41] Speaker 1: naseried or both of them to get Jannis back after
[3:44] Speaker 1: they went and did the Lamello move. Blazers probably are
[3:47] Speaker 1: starting with Jeremy Grant's big salary young players, which they
[3:52] Speaker 1: have quite a few of picks. Were the Magic considered
[3:58] Speaker 1: considering trade considering baking up? Excuse me, Paolo and Franz Wagner, Like,
[4:02] Speaker 1: how serious was that? Feels like it would have to
[4:04] Speaker 1: have been one of those guys for a honest move.
[4:07] Speaker 1: The Warriors, we know, would have had to dealt Jimmy
[4:09] Speaker 1: Butler and Draymond Green because of their salary, multiple young
[4:13] Speaker 1: prospects which they have not a ton of, and then
[4:16] Speaker 1: virtually all of their controllable first round draft picks. The
[4:21] Speaker 1: nixt Okay, the Knicks was gonna be Cat or maybe
[4:23] Speaker 1: it was going to be Bridges in heart. They made
[4:25] Speaker 1: their right decision there not to do that, and then
[4:27] Speaker 1: the Lakers deal probably would have been a three or
[4:29] Speaker 1: four teamer is the best way you could probably got there,
[4:32] Speaker 1: with like Austin Reeves as a key part. I guess
[4:34] Speaker 1: Vanderbilt obviously draft capital. So yeah, but yeah, the interesting
[4:39] Speaker 1: part there is again Jannis and his team was shooting
[4:44] Speaker 1: down I think some of these strong bids probably just
[4:48] Speaker 1: simply saying I don't want to play there, I'm not
[4:50] Speaker 1: gonna be signing a contract extension there, or it was
[4:53] Speaker 1: just this whole like respect for one another, trying to
[4:58] Speaker 1: please Giannis and get them to spot, of course where
[5:00] Speaker 1: you want to go, and not just screw him over
[5:02] Speaker 1: to and like who cares, we don't care. That's the
[5:05] Speaker 1: best deal. We're taking it. See you later, you figure
[5:07] Speaker 1: out your contract extension. So that was the first part.
[5:12] Speaker 1: Second interesting quote from Ramona's column. Here, during a news
[5:17] Speaker 1: conference to introduce new coach Taylor Jenkins and sitting alongside
[5:22] Speaker 1: Horst Bucks co owner Jimmy Haslam had made a declaration
[5:27] Speaker 1: the Bucks would have Giannis's future settled by draft night.
[5:32] Speaker 1: Either he would agree to sign an extension to remain
[5:35] Speaker 1: with Milwaukee or he'd be traded. But by then the
[5:39] Speaker 1: Bucks had their answer. Multiple sources with knowledge of the
[5:42] Speaker 1: situation say Jannis was not going to sign another extension
[5:47] Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. End quote. Okay, I feel like this is
[5:54] Speaker 1: this is like an episode of Summer House where the
[5:57] Speaker 1: timeline is always so important. That's some dumb reality television
[6:02] Speaker 1: for you. People cheating on people, flirting with people, and
[6:07] Speaker 1: everybody gets all hell bent on the timeline. Let's match
[6:10] Speaker 1: the dates up here. Well, let's go through this. Jimmy
[6:14] Speaker 1: Haslam made these comments on May sixth. Okay, this is
[6:17] Speaker 1: when he did the whole declaration of like, he's either
[6:20] Speaker 1: signing the contract extension or he's out of here. But
[6:24] Speaker 1: Yannis and his team had already made it clear they
[6:27] Speaker 1: were not signing an extension. Again, according to the reporting here,
[6:31] Speaker 1: so as the Athletic put it, Haslam in the Bucks
[6:34] Speaker 1: are either just bluffing or at minimum they're just keeping
[6:39] Speaker 1: all of the Bucks cards close to the vest, which
[6:42] Speaker 1: is fair and probably what you should do, right, But
[6:46] Speaker 1: it's obviously that was not true when he was saying, oh,
[6:49] Speaker 1: like he was sort of giving maybe Bucks fans maybe
[6:53] Speaker 1: this false hope of like, well, there's still I guess
[6:56] Speaker 1: could be a contract extension. And of course the honest
[6:58] Speaker 1: is like staying fairly quiet and everybody's going, well, what
[7:00] Speaker 1: the hell? Man. So the timeline, they knew months prior
[7:06] Speaker 1: that Yannis was ready to go, and it sounds like
[7:11] Speaker 1: they knew as early as late twenty twenty five. That's
[7:17] Speaker 1: the next quote, or that's what it has to do with.
[7:19] Speaker 1: Yannis began the season with the Bucks we're talking about
[7:23] Speaker 1: last season here, but missed fourteen of the team's first
[7:25] Speaker 1: thirty one games, and the Bucks were under five hundred
[7:27] Speaker 1: by December. It was then that Yannis and his agent
[7:32] Speaker 1: privately reiterated to Horst again reiterated sort of important here
[7:37] Speaker 1: that the team was not good enough and it was
[7:39] Speaker 1: time for both sides to move on. But the Bucks
[7:43] Speaker 1: believed they could turn around the season when their star
[7:47] Speaker 1: got healthy. So again timeline things here, we're going back
[7:53] Speaker 1: to late twenty twenty five, and the quote says reiterated,
[7:57] Speaker 1: so maybe even prior to that, hey, hey, we're not
[8:01] Speaker 1: good enough. We know Jannis on record as saying I
[8:04] Speaker 1: want another championship. I don't care really on paraphrasing, but
[8:08] Speaker 1: I don't care so much to stay twenty years with
[8:10] Speaker 1: one franchise if it's just one title. I won a
[8:13] Speaker 1: second title, again paraphrasing, but that's sort of what he
[8:16] Speaker 1: was saying here. And here it is in the Ramona
[8:20] Speaker 1: article that Johannis and his team we're coming to horse
[8:23] Speaker 1: in the Bucks, like, all right, look what's going on here.
[8:27] Speaker 1: We're bad when I'm not in the lineup. And then
[8:29] Speaker 1: of course he would return and they weren't much better.
[8:32] Speaker 1: So again this was a known thing that the Bucks
[8:38] Speaker 1: we're holding out. Hope. I think that again Joannis comes back,
[8:41] Speaker 1: he gets healthy, and maybe there's a late run and
[8:43] Speaker 1: there's a spark again. But a lot of us were going,
[8:48] Speaker 1: it's silly, guys. You know this is this is long overdue,
[8:52] Speaker 1: and you're just dragging it out and could they have
[8:55] Speaker 1: gotten a better deal tbd TBD. I'll get into a
[8:59] Speaker 1: little bit more of that in a little bit here
[9:01] Speaker 1: from the article, But the point is we had a
[9:05] Speaker 1: lot of people saying, I don't know, there's still hope.
[9:08] Speaker 1: It didn't sound like it. It doesn't like obviously behind
[9:13] Speaker 1: the scenes, it was sort of the writing was on
[9:15] Speaker 1: the wall. Joannis had told them such. They obviously knew
[9:18] Speaker 1: it that they're either in denial or just trying to
[9:21] Speaker 1: do everything they can to salvage season, salvage the idea
[9:25] Speaker 1: of keeping them like not like you ever want to
[9:27] Speaker 1: trade away a franchise player. All right, moving on number
[9:31] Speaker 1: four here, fourth quote from the article. Horst had always
[9:34] Speaker 1: liked the concept of the heat steal. It was one
[9:36] Speaker 1: of the two offers he brought to Bucks Co owners
[9:40] Speaker 1: West Eden's and Jimmy Haslam at the trade deadline in February.
[9:44] Speaker 1: But back then Milwaukee was still torn on whether it
[9:47] Speaker 1: had exhausted all options to win with Ganness. If there
[9:51] Speaker 1: was a chance, even a remote one, of competing for
[9:54] Speaker 1: a title and convincing him to stay, the Bucks had
[9:57] Speaker 1: to play it all the way out. It was a gamble. Okay,
[10:01] Speaker 1: So this is perfect. This like piggybacks off that last
[10:04] Speaker 1: one that we were just talking about. This was the
[10:07] Speaker 1: Milwaukee thinking, come on, we gotta try to do everything
[10:12] Speaker 1: we can. We have before. We made the big deal
[10:15] Speaker 1: for Drew Holiday that worked out. We made big deal
[10:18] Speaker 1: for Damian Lillard. That one didn't work out as well.
[10:22] Speaker 1: Other moves. I mean. The funny part though here, though,
[10:27] Speaker 1: was they signed Cam Thomas and traded for Ushman dang Jan.
[10:35] Speaker 1: You know, not you know blockbuster moves here by any means.
[10:39] Speaker 1: But a source told Ramona in the article, I think
[10:41] Speaker 1: we just had to know. I think they just had
[10:42] Speaker 1: to know. They had to try everything. So on one hand,
[10:47] Speaker 1: we can easily argue the Bucks waited too long to
[10:50] Speaker 1: trade them, and a lot of teams do this. They
[10:52] Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first, they won't be the last, because
[10:56] Speaker 1: I'm on record saying the writing was on the walls.
[10:58] Speaker 1: SU's Damian Lillard tours Achilles, and that's April twenty twenty five.
[11:01] Speaker 1: It's probably done right then and there, and maybe you're
[11:05] Speaker 1: getting a bigger, better, whatever, more exciting package if you
[11:09] Speaker 1: just ripped the band aid off, because obviously you would
[11:12] Speaker 1: have had, you know, that whole season last year here,
[11:16] Speaker 1: this last season of Giannis under contract here. So there's that.
[11:19] Speaker 1: But on the other hand, the Bucks gamble sort of
[11:21] Speaker 1: paid off because the Heats offer did improve in the offseason.
[11:27] Speaker 1: That's what people are telling us now. In Ramona's article,
[11:31] Speaker 1: they just say Miami decided to throw in this year's
[11:35] Speaker 1: first round pick. That's sort of all the reporting says.
[11:38] Speaker 1: So if the backbone for the honest deal was all
[11:43] Speaker 1: the players that eventually got moved, it's Tyler Hero, It's
[11:46] Speaker 1: where and it's Hockheas. Let's just say those three were
[11:49] Speaker 1: always locks, and then the finagling was over the other
[11:54] Speaker 1: young prospect. You know, I think there's reporting that the
[11:57] Speaker 1: Bucks wanted to trade Damion Mitchell, but sorry, the Heat
[12:01] Speaker 1: wanted to trade Davion Mitchell, but the Bucks wanted Yakatronis instead.
[12:06] Speaker 1: I'm sure the Miami Heat wanted to get off of Jovich.
[12:08] Speaker 1: They probably didn't want that, And then we get into
[12:10] Speaker 1: the pick swaps and stuff like that. So look, that
[12:12] Speaker 1: part of the gamble maybe did play to the bucks favor.
[12:16] Speaker 1: Maybe it got better. It sounds like it got a
[12:18] Speaker 1: little bit better, and a part of that, I assume
[12:20] Speaker 1: was the Celtics coming out of nowhere with the Jalen
[12:23] Speaker 1: Brown of it. All so good from Milwaukee there, but again,
[12:27] Speaker 1: the whole this is just all fascinating of like either
[12:32] Speaker 1: trying to talk themselves into turning everything around and convincing
[12:36] Speaker 1: Giannest to sign another extension like they had previously with
[12:38] Speaker 1: other moves twice before, or just you know, just do
[12:42] Speaker 1: it and get it over with. So uh yeah, love
[12:47] Speaker 1: this stuff. Let's take a very very quick break here,
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[13:20] Speaker 1: let there be goals this summer on FanDuel. There were
[13:24] Speaker 1: so many goals. When I went to last week's Morocco
[13:27] Speaker 1: Haiti game, six goals, baby, it was really really fun.
[13:33] Speaker 1: I talked about it a little bit on the at
[13:35] Speaker 1: the end of the Drop podcast on Friday, but electric atmosphere.
[13:39] Speaker 1: I suddenly was a Haiti fan. It took like ten
[13:42] Speaker 1: minutes while they scored first and we were in a
[13:46] Speaker 1: Haitian supporting section. It was awesome, all right. Back to
[13:49] Speaker 1: the Ramona Shelbourne article here our fifth takeaway here, and
[13:53] Speaker 1: these ones get a little more fun here. I think
[13:58] Speaker 1: this next one is all about out when maybe everything
[14:04] Speaker 1: started to go to hell with Theiannis in Milwaukee quote
[14:08] Speaker 1: again from the article link in the show notes. Looking
[14:10] Speaker 1: back on it, the one thing we did that changed
[14:13] Speaker 1: everything was put Drew Holiday in that trade. A Bucks
[14:17] Speaker 1: source said, Drew is such a leader on and off
[14:21] Speaker 1: the floor. He would do things like if Giannis was
[14:23] Speaker 1: holding the ball too much, Drew would just bring it
[14:26] Speaker 1: up play with everybody else without making it a thing.
[14:29] Speaker 1: He was a pro at it. So there's a big
[14:32] Speaker 1: portion of this article about that Drew Holiday trade, and
[14:35] Speaker 1: maybe that's when it started to you know, it was
[14:39] Speaker 1: maybe just the wrong move. Simply put now, Holiday was
[14:44] Speaker 1: bad in back to back playoff series, like in his
[14:49] Speaker 1: last twelve playoff games for Milwaukee, he shot like a
[14:52] Speaker 1: combined thirty seven percent. Drew Holiday was not great. I mean,
[14:55] Speaker 1: obviously helped himin the title, but he was not great
[14:57] Speaker 1: over those last two runs. And the thing thinking was,
[15:01] Speaker 1: we need more offense, so let's go get Damian Lillard.
[15:05] Speaker 1: I mean, not many more talented offensive players than Damian Lillard.
[15:09] Speaker 1: So let's swap Drew for Dame for all intents purposes.
[15:13] Speaker 1: So that was the fall of twenty twenty three. But
[15:17] Speaker 1: the reporting here is once Drew was gone, they just
[15:20] Speaker 1: lost their defensive identity for sure, And it just sounds
[15:25] Speaker 1: like the intangibles of just a real leader and like
[15:31] Speaker 1: sort of a slick pro like that quote was all about.
[15:35] Speaker 1: It wasn't calling out Giannis, wasn't being the loudest guy
[15:38] Speaker 1: in the room. Probably doesn't feel like Drew Holliday at all,
[15:40] Speaker 1: just quietly goes about the business and consense when maybe
[15:45] Speaker 1: you're trying to do too much. Let's get the other
[15:47] Speaker 1: guys involved, just sort of that steadying pro so I
[15:53] Speaker 1: think a look that's always one. Like within the article
[15:56] Speaker 1: it says it wasn't trading for Dame that was dumb.
[15:59] Speaker 1: It was to give up Drew to get Dame like
[16:01] Speaker 1: two bad. We couldn't have it both of them, right,
[16:03] Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you would want both of them, and
[16:05] Speaker 1: everybody was healthy, it'd be great too. But yeah, maybe
[16:09] Speaker 1: that is when there was a bit of the turning
[16:10] Speaker 1: point was Drew going to the Portland Trailblazers in the
[16:13] Speaker 1: Dame trade. Obviously, Drew then finds his way to Boston.
[16:16] Speaker 1: He wins another championship. Obviously impactful player, and maybe things
[16:19] Speaker 1: changed after he left Part six quote six. It's a
[16:26] Speaker 1: quickie here. Throughout, but especially during the second hot half
[16:31] Speaker 1: of last season, Jannis often lamented the erosion of the
[16:35] Speaker 1: team's culture and discipline. Now this is funny for two reasons.
[16:40] Speaker 1: One and it's in the article after the season. You remember,
[16:44] Speaker 1: Miles Turner went public with the team's habits and its
[16:49] Speaker 1: lack of accountability, and he specifically noted how Yannis took
[16:53] Speaker 1: advantage of that. I mean Miles Turner, he said, quote
[16:57] Speaker 1: Jannis is going to show up whenever he won. Really,
[17:01] Speaker 1: I mean we joked about it on the No Ducks podcast.
[17:04] Speaker 1: It's like, what's up with all you Greek guys? So
[17:06] Speaker 1: you're always running late to everything? Classic tasks. I guess
[17:09] Speaker 1: the hon is built the same, but like he's showing
[17:11] Speaker 1: up for like flights that are like three hours late
[17:13] Speaker 1: and we're just sitting there on the tarmac, or people
[17:16] Speaker 1: started going like, what's the point of going to if
[17:18] Speaker 1: the flight's at noon? I mean, don't show up till
[17:20] Speaker 1: two because he'll maybe show up thirty minutes after that.
[17:24] Speaker 1: So that's interesting. But but but but I don't think
[17:28] Speaker 1: it's just the honis here, right, because in a fantastic
[17:32] Speaker 1: look at the Deadline of the Bucks, the Milwaukee Journal
[17:36] Speaker 1: sentinels Jim Alazarski, I'm probably mispronouncing that he wrote about
[17:42] Speaker 1: how Doc River's arrival in January twenty twenty four completely
[17:47] Speaker 1: upended the Bucks chemistry, which seemed to be sort of
[17:51] Speaker 1: like falling apart as it was. This included this is
[17:56] Speaker 1: again when Doc comes on board. It included misspelled banners
[17:59] Speaker 1: in the locker room. I guess they had written in
[18:02] Speaker 1: like a bunch of languages, the word together and they
[18:07] Speaker 1: spelled together wrong in English. Of all the languages, there
[18:12] Speaker 1: was a favoritism for star players Hello Yiannis. And the
[18:15] Speaker 1: best part, Doc Rivers installed a ninety thousand dollars golf
[18:19] Speaker 1: simulator for himself in what was formerly like a communal
[18:24] Speaker 1: space at the practice facility, so to docs instead of
[18:30] Speaker 1: like trying to iron out all the wrinkles here of
[18:32] Speaker 1: what's going wrong, it's like, ah, just gonna gonna get
[18:35] Speaker 1: some balls, get some cuts in here. So amazing stuff.
[18:40] Speaker 1: And I do think doctors are some of this blame,
[18:43] Speaker 1: but you know it goes hand in hand. It's your
[18:45] Speaker 1: superstar and it's your coach, and so it's weird. It
[18:49] Speaker 1: feels like Jannis. You know, it went from Budenholzer to Griffin,
[18:54] Speaker 1: who has fired despite an incredible record, right to doc here.
[18:57] Speaker 1: So we started to get into musical chairs. So it's like,
[19:00] Speaker 1: what was the honest hoping for? What did he like?
[19:02] Speaker 1: What worked? You know? Was he starting to get mentally
[19:06] Speaker 1: checked out? Sure sounds like it, but then turn around
[19:08] Speaker 1: and just blame it on what's going on here. There's
[19:10] Speaker 1: not a lot of discipline, structure, coaches just hitting balls
[19:15] Speaker 1: all day long, so hand in hand, but very funny,
[19:20] Speaker 1: very funny visual just doc rivers just you know, hitting
[19:26] Speaker 1: some golf balls while everyone else is trying to figure
[19:29] Speaker 1: out the season. I hope it's translated to the to
[19:33] Speaker 1: the greens there, to the fairways. Final one here. Horst
[19:39] Speaker 1: seemed excited on NBA Draft Night, refreshed, as they put it,
[19:45] Speaker 1: to build a new again, to emerge from the pressure
[19:47] Speaker 1: of trying to appease you honest and ignore the cooi
[19:50] Speaker 1: passive aggression that had come to define the last year
[19:54] Speaker 1: of their relationship. And I wanted to include this because
[20:00] Speaker 1: as it is that you had to trade your superstar
[20:03] Speaker 1: at this point, if your horst and the bucks, there
[20:06] Speaker 1: must be relief. Right, you've done it. You've got young
[20:10] Speaker 1: players here, You're gonna decide what to do with Tyler Hero,
[20:13] Speaker 1: You've got pick swaps, You've got you know this, this
[20:16] Speaker 1: future future pick second round or whatever. Is it the
[20:18] Speaker 1: sexiest trade package? No, not for a guy of you
[20:21] Speaker 1: Honest's stature, but man, just to be done with this,
[20:25] Speaker 1: especially that inclusion of passive aggression. Yeah, Yiannis could never
[20:30] Speaker 1: really bring himself to just publicly ask for a trade.
[20:33] Speaker 1: I think it would have saved a lot of headaches
[20:36] Speaker 1: for everyone if he had done it. Uh, it's like
[20:40] Speaker 1: people started to like tire of this, turn on him.
[20:43] Speaker 1: What are you doing? Then there's the Wolf of Wall
[20:45] Speaker 1: Street nonsense, Like it just was so silly and probably
[20:52] Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you'd asked him, like,
[20:53] Speaker 1: if you could have done it any differently, would you
[20:55] Speaker 1: have done that, like a year ago, would you have
[20:57] Speaker 1: just done that? You know what, this has been incredible.
[21:00] Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's let's get it out there and
[21:03] Speaker 1: then we go from there. But maybe not, maybe it
[21:05] Speaker 1: doesn't change a thing, but it's got to be a
[21:09] Speaker 1: huge weight off their shoulders here. As crappy as the
[21:13] Speaker 1: bucks might be here for the coming years, it's still
[21:16] Speaker 1: that that pressure in that cloud hanging over that like organization.
[21:21] Speaker 1: It's like impossible to get away from it is uh,
[21:25] Speaker 1: and it's been there for all and they've had it
[21:26] Speaker 1: before and then the and then the clouds have broke
[21:29] Speaker 1: because of extensions or what they did to convince them
[21:31] Speaker 1: and all that, but this one was, this one was
[21:33] Speaker 1: no coming back from. So yeah, there it is. Those
[21:36] Speaker 1: are seven things that really jumped out to me. Let
[21:38] Speaker 1: me know what you think of the ESPN article. There's
[21:40] Speaker 1: also a very strange part about Heat general manager Andy
[21:44] Speaker 1: Ellisberg's love of movies. This guy loves movies. This guy's
[21:48] Speaker 1: like JD and Trey with this love of movies. Within
[21:51] Speaker 1: the article, it says quote Andy likes to tell friends
[21:54] Speaker 1: that all of life's answers are in movies, and every
[21:58] Speaker 1: answer is in one of the god Other movies. Okay, interesting,
[22:05] Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it that way, But now I'm
[22:08] Speaker 1: gonna go back and rewatch all the Godfather movies and
[22:10] Speaker 1: see if Andy's right. Is there an answer in at
[22:14] Speaker 1: least one of the Godfather movies to everything? The goddamn
[22:19] Speaker 1: FBI don't respect nothing. We'll see you guys on Monday, though,
[22:23] Speaker 1: from the Classic Factory to recap all of the NBA
[22:26] Speaker 1: slop and transactions. Until then, let me hit you with
[22:30] Speaker 1: a clipper. Bro. You heard it here first, have a
[22:33] Speaker 1: great time, turn up, love you guys. Awesome. All right,
[22:36] Speaker 1: let me know what you thought of this. Maybe this
[22:38] Speaker 1: is something we can add to the repertoire moving forward,
[22:40] Speaker 1: the deep dive sort of dissections I guess of these
[22:45] Speaker 1: big articles. Everybody, have a great weekend, Enjoy the World
[22:49] Speaker 1: Cup action, and yeah, enjoy the slop too. Brace the day, people,

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