# Talking Dateline: The Grudge

An episode of [Dateline NBC](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1464919521), 9 Sep 2026, 30 min.

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Andrea Canning joins Blayne Alexander to discuss her episode, “The Grudge,” the story of federal judge Esther Salas, whose family was attacked at their New Jersey home in 2020 by a gunman posing as a delivery driver. Salas’s husband was seriously injured and their only child, Daniel, was killed. Andrea and Blayne break down the investigation that linked the killer to the murder of California men’s rights advocate Marc Angelucci just days earlier, and the chilling motive investigators uncovered. Andrea shares an extra clip from a later conversation with Judge Salas about grief and parenting. Plus, we answer your questions from social media. Have a question for Talking Dateline? Send us a DM @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question could be featured in an upcoming episode. Listen to the full episode of “The Grudge”: https://swap.fm/l/dl_thegrudge Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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