# Shadow State: Murder, Mayhem, and Russia's Remaking of the West

An episode of [The Asset](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1461422307), 18 Aug 2020, 52 min.

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Max Bergmann interviews The Guardian's Luke Harding about how Russia has sought to undermine the West by interfering and corrupting the politics of the US, UK, and other Western countries. Harding discusses his interviews with Christopher Steele, new revelations about Russian interference in the United Kingdom, his reaction to the Mueller report, and how Russia will seek to interfere in the 2020 election. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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