# What do they have to gain from being willfully ignorant?

An episode of [James O'Brien - The Whole Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1460121501), 4 Jun 2026, 1 h 38 min.

Audio: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/426e941d-9ad4-4457-b07e-bffde1e52b7a.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=2a0297d7-7270-4787-a0aa-0deb22605752&aw_0_1st.episodeid=426e941d-9ad4-4457-b07e-bffde1e52b7a



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