# #131 Toby Ord - Will AI Destroy Humanity?

An episode of [Within Reason](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1458675168), 27 Nov 2025, 1 h 02 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO3793536787.mp3

For early, ad-free access to videos, and to support the channel, subscribe to my Substack: https://www.alexoconnor.com. Toby Ord is an Australian philosopher. In 2009 he founded Giving What We Can, an international society whose members pledge to donate at least 10% of their income to effective charities, and is a key figure in the effective altruism movement, which promotes using reason and evidence to help the lives of others as much as possible. The Precipice: https://amzn.to/3XdUAEx Ord's Website: https://www.tobyord.com/writings TIMESTAMPS (0:00) What Existential Risks Does AI Pose? (8:57) How AI Systems Lie to Us (26:04) Why We Should Be Worried About AI (33:28) What Does It Mean for AI System to “Want” Something? (43:41) AI Weapons and Nuclear Warfare (48:57) Where Should We Focus Our Resources? (53:35) What Policies Should We Enact? CONNECT My Website: https://www.alexoconnor.com SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/cosmicskeptic Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cosmicskeptic Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/cosmicskeptic TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cosmicskeptic CONTACT Business email: contact@alexoconnor.com Brand enquiries: David@modernstoa.co

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