# I Interviewed an Actual Spy Who Spent 50 Years Undercover | Former IB Officer P. G. Balakrishna Kamath

An episode of [The Prakhar Gupta Xperience](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1458523731), 4 Sep 2026, 1 h 56 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/f6473d5c/podcast/play/125187664/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-4%2F431162140-44100-2-f30b0597cadd4.mp3

Welcome to PGX: Raw & Real #212PGX: Raw & Real is simple. I sit with people who’ve lived through something and/or made it big.This isn’t meant to be inspiration or a template for life (for that, you can check out PGX Ideas).This space is different. It’s their story, as they experienced it.In this episode, I spoke to P.G. Balakrishna Kamath — Former IB Officer.Timestamps:0:00 - Trailer1:40 - How Demonetization Broke The Naxals6:56 - How Indian Intelligence Really Changed16:07 - His Secret Life As A Field Officer21:03 - Living Undercover For Life23:28 - The Truth His Wife Never Knew28:03 - The Chai Shop Spy Story33:46 - How Pakistan And China Spy Differently36:02 - Inside A Real Honeytrap Operation40:22 - The Marines' Terrifying Heartbeat Technology45:02 - The Pager Blast Explained47:05 - The Officer With The Headache53:26 - China's Secret Cyberattacks On America58:48 - 10,000 Terabytes Stolen From China1:03:14 - Is Your Phone Always Listening?1:07:03 - The Submarine That Mysteriously Sank1:10:12 - Was Epstein An Intelligence Operation?1:17:43 - Why The US Banned Its Own AI1:21:28 - How Trump's Lie Became "Truth"1:26:05 - Were The Farmer's Protests A Campaign?1:29:13 - The $21 Million US AIDS Mystery1:33:15 - Why Intelligence Agencies Fail1:36:41 - Honeytrap Cases That Shook India1:40:54 - The 1985 Spy Who Sold Secrets1:52:14 - His Best Advice On Reading People Enjoy.— Prakhar

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