# In Conversation with the 2025 Linus and Ave Helen Pauling Award Winner Deanna Minich, MS, PhD, and Jeffery Bland, PhD

An episode of [Pathways to Well-Being](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1458377114), 22 Sep 2025, 40 min.

Audio: https://episodes.castos.com/67eee8b899af11-87681396/2147005/c1e-7oq1mf9wv8xt2v954-z3kx69mocm26-phcczc.mp3

On this special episode of Pathways to Well-Being, IFM co-founder Dr. Jeffery Bland talks with the winner of the 2025 Linus and Ave Helen Pauling Award in Functional Medicine, Dr. Deanna Minich.

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