# Episode 328: Charismatic or Crazy? (Feat. Matt Chandler)

An episode of [Becoming Something with Jonathan Pokluda](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1454045768), 21 Jul 2025, 35 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/https://t.subsplash.com/r/aHR0cHM6Ly9jZG4uc3Vic3BsYXNoLmNvbS9hdWRpb3MvVEdERDY4L2M3Y2VjMjAwLTZjZmUtNDZlMi1iZGI1LWZhN2ZmYTY4ODlhZi9hdWRpby5tcDM.mp3?k=TGDD68&s=3&sapid=3dhm5vy

This week we talk with Pastor Matt Chandler about the sign gifts of the spirit. Are they still real? Should we even care? All of that and more in this episode!

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