# Episode 374: Finding Hope in Suffering | feat. Kirby Kelly

An episode of [Becoming Something with Jonathan Pokluda](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1454045768), 1 Jun 2026, 35 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/https://t.subsplash.com/r/aHR0cHM6Ly9jZG4uc3Vic3BsYXNoLmNvbS9hdWRpb3MvVEdERDY4LzNiNTQ2MmM4LWQ3YjctNDAzYS1iZDFmLWI4MDhiN2QyYjZhYS9hdWRpby5tcDM.mp3?k=TGDD68&s=3&sapid=9qjxb8v

In this episode we talk to author Kirby Kelly about her new book The Fabric of Hope. Life is full of seasons that leave us asking "why God?" — but what if those same seasons are exactly how He builds our faith? We talk with Kirby about how God weaves redemption into suffering and why bringing Him your honest pain is the key to finding real hope!

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