# STARMER USES THE 'R' WORD - with Iain Dale

An episode of [What Most People Think with Geoff Norcott](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453517233), 30 Sep 2025, 48 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR8103627946.mp3

As we're bang in conference season I got political heavyweight Iain Dale to join me for a chat. We discuss Starmer calling Reform's new policy 'racist' and whether that - or indeed ID cards - will blow up in his face. We then turn to the Tories and ask 'What the hell could they do to make anyone care?' In the Patreon only section I respond to a bit of good old fashioned 'Woke gone mad' from a local football association. CATCH ME ON MY TOUR ‘Basic Bloke 2: There’s No Bloke Without Fire’. Book tickets here: https://www.livenation.co.uk/geoff-norcott-tickets-adp1252793 JOIN the Podcast Patreon and receive each episode early, AD-FREE & with bonus content https://www.patreon.com/geoffnorcott?fan_landing=true Join my MAILING LIST for priority Tour booking & special offers https://signup.ymlp.com/xgyueuwbgmgb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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