# Bigfoot Follows Veterinarian Across Virginia—and Her Reality Is Shattered

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 19 Dec 2025, 58 min.

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Dr. Erin Drinkwater, a Virginia veterinarian, shares decades of terrifying encounters that occurred from Virginia Beach to the Eastern Shore, Lynchburg, and finally a shocking full-body sighting along I-295 near Varina and Chester. Her professional training in animal behavior and physiology makes these reports some of the most credible and detailed ever recorded. In this episode, she describes: • A massive pale humanoid crossing the road near Lynchburg College in 1996 • A 500+ pound biped walking across the roof of her trailer on the Eastern Shore (2009) • A violent, unexplained stomping incident inside her home in Virginia Beach (approx. 2018) • A breathtaking sighting of an amber-colored Bigfoot standing on a ridge beside I-295 near Richmond (2022) • Early unexplained events near First Landing State Park and Fort Story, including an aquamarine orb and a non-human attempt to open her family’s front door Dr. Drinkwater’s firsthand knowledge of animal gait, mass, and movement adds scientific clarity to some of the most unnerving Bigfoot reports ever documented. If you're interested in Bigfoot sightings, cryptid encounters, paranormal activity, or eyewitness testimonies from professionals, this episode is essential. Resources: Contact Dr. Drinkwater here: drdrinkwater@yahoo.com 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect • Instagram: @bigfootsociety • Twitter: @bigfoot_society • TikTok: @bigfoot.society 🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: • Beam (Better Sleep): Try Beam • Wildgrain (Better Bread): Join Here • Seed (Probiotics): Get Seed • Medi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More • LMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT • Organic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS 🎙️ Podcasting Tools: • Repurpose.io: Try It • Descript: Sign Up • Streamyard: Start Recording • Riverside.fm: Try Riverside 🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigflett Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
[0:03] Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
[0:05] Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
[0:08] Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
[0:12] Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 2: These are the.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
[0:24] Speaker 1: because today you'll hear another account that just might change
[0:28] Speaker 1: the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,
[0:32] Speaker 1: all right, Bickflett Society. We've got the privilege of talking
[0:35] Speaker 1: to Erin today. Aaron is an individual. She reached out
[0:38] Speaker 1: to me. She is actually a veterinarian, so be a
[0:41] Speaker 1: very interesting discussion about what she's experienced over the years.
[0:46] Speaker 1: So welcome to the show.
[0:47] Speaker 3: Erin.
[0:47] Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
[0:48] Speaker 3: Great?
[0:49] Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm really looking forward to hearing what you
[0:52] Speaker 1: have to share. Is around the Williamsburg area of Virginia.
[0:57] Speaker 2: Right.
[0:58] Speaker 4: I love a Virginia bach and my actual sighting happened
[1:03] Speaker 4: about three years ago on spring break. I was driving
[1:08] Speaker 4: from Williamsburg to Richmond and go see a friend of
[1:11] Speaker 4: mine with my daughter. And so I think what I
[1:16] Speaker 4: wanted to do was just lead up to that story
[1:19] Speaker 4: by giving a little bit of background about myself, just
[1:24] Speaker 4: to help with credibility and the fact that I am
[1:28] Speaker 4: a veterinarian and I have been obsessed with animals all
[1:32] Speaker 4: my life, and I'm reading off of some of these notes.
[1:35] Speaker 4: I literally studied every species that I have ever come across.
[1:39] Speaker 4: I memorized the Audubon field guides when I was a kid,
[1:43] Speaker 4: knowing the life cycles and the habits and the diets
[1:47] Speaker 4: of most of the indigenous species of this area. So
[1:51] Speaker 4: this area is Virginia Beach, and we have a lot
[1:54] Speaker 4: of like wildfile that migrate through here. We don't have
[1:58] Speaker 4: a lot of deer here, but I I remember there
[2:00] Speaker 4: were pigs and deer in the woods when I was
[2:04] Speaker 4: growing up. And where I grew up it backs up
[2:06] Speaker 4: to a naval base called Fort Story. I don't know
[2:10] Speaker 4: if it's naval or it's a base called Fort Story.
[2:13] Speaker 4: So I was when I would play in the woods,
[2:15] Speaker 4: I was literally on base.
[2:17] Speaker 3: But there was no until.
[2:19] Speaker 4: Nine to eleven, there weren't any real barriers, and I
[2:24] Speaker 4: didn't know when I was on the base or not,
[2:26] Speaker 4: but we were back in the woods. It's called First
[2:28] Speaker 4: Landing State Park, and there have been some sightings back
[2:32] Speaker 4: there as well that I saw on one of the websites.
[2:36] Speaker 4: The first kind of weird incident that I had was
[2:40] Speaker 4: back in the late nineteen seventies. My dad and mom
[2:44] Speaker 4: and I had been out to dinner and we arrived
[2:47] Speaker 4: back at our house, and our house backed up to
[2:50] Speaker 4: the woods, which was First Landing, and when we got
[2:53] Speaker 4: out of the car, there was a I don't know
[2:57] Speaker 4: if it would be an orb but it was the
[3:00] Speaker 4: shape of a fat jelly bean and it was like
[3:03] Speaker 4: an aquamarine color.
[3:05] Speaker 3: It was completely silent, and it was like the moon almost.
[3:09] Speaker 4: It was right above the tree line, and it was
[3:11] Speaker 4: about the size of a VW bug. And my dad
[3:15] Speaker 4: and I got out of the car and we were
[3:18] Speaker 4: just in awe with this. It was beautiful, but it
[3:22] Speaker 4: didn't move and it didn't make any noise, and I
[3:24] Speaker 4: think we stared at it.
[3:25] Speaker 3: For twenty minutes and got bored and went inside.
[3:28] Speaker 4: My mom got out of the car and ran in
[3:29] Speaker 4: and yelled at us for a while, but she wouldn't
[3:33] Speaker 4: have anything to do with it.
[3:34] Speaker 3: And obviously we never knew what that was, but it
[3:38] Speaker 3: was over those woods.
[3:39] Speaker 4: And then about five years later, I heard something, someone
[3:45] Speaker 4: or something trying to open our front door of the house.
[3:50] Speaker 4: And the odd part about this was, I mean, when
[3:54] Speaker 4: you live in a house, you can you know the
[3:57] Speaker 4: noises and the sounds that a house makes or whatever.
[4:00] Speaker 4: But the way that this door knob was turning was
[4:04] Speaker 4: it was goinglick click, I mean faster than a human
[4:09] Speaker 4: hand could make it move. And of course I ran
[4:15] Speaker 4: and told my mom and we called the police, and
[4:17] Speaker 4: the police came and there was nothing. We didn't see anything,
[4:21] Speaker 4: but a lot of car accidents happened on shore Drive.
[4:24] Speaker 4: People would come through the woods and try and get
[4:26] Speaker 4: in the house sometimes, but this did not sound human
[4:29] Speaker 4: whatever it was trying to get into the house. Fast forward,
[4:33] Speaker 4: I just wanted to talk about my experience of becoming
[4:37] Speaker 4: a veterinarian. One of our requirements in school was to
[4:42] Speaker 4: be able to look at a animal, and this is
[4:45] Speaker 4: large animal medicine, like cows and horses. Be able to
[4:49] Speaker 4: look at these animals and try to guess how much
[4:54] Speaker 4: they wait by looking at their size. Okay, so this
[4:57] Speaker 4: ties into my experience later this was really important because
[5:01] Speaker 4: we had a scale that we tried to get really
[5:04] Speaker 4: flaty race horses onto, and they just would not get
[5:08] Speaker 4: on the scale, maybe like they were flipping out and
[5:11] Speaker 4: they became dangerous, and so we would have to guess,
[5:14] Speaker 4: and we were really close. We got to the point
[5:16] Speaker 4: where we could look at an animal and because we
[5:19] Speaker 4: use a standard one thousand pound horse and go from there.
[5:22] Speaker 3: Is it bigger than that? Is it smaller than that?
[5:24] Speaker 3: Is a pony? Is it a cold blood animal?
[5:28] Speaker 4: So I have a really good feel as to how
[5:33] Speaker 4: much something weighs, even by this sound it makes when
[5:36] Speaker 4: it walks. So I get through VET school and I
[5:40] Speaker 4: moved to back to Virginia. But before I get into
[5:46] Speaker 4: the thing that I heard on the Eastern Shore in Lynchburg,
[5:51] Speaker 4: Virginia around nineteen ninety six, I was at Lynchburg College
[5:56] Speaker 4: and it was about two am in the morning and
[5:57] Speaker 4: my friend and I were driving back. I was in
[6:00] Speaker 4: the passenger seat and she was driving, and we were
[6:04] Speaker 4: going through the foothills of Virginia and there were woods
[6:08] Speaker 4: on either side, and the car comes to a complete stop.
[6:11] Speaker 4: I look at my friend. Her mouth is open, and
[6:15] Speaker 4: from left this thing across the street, and it looked like.
[6:23] Speaker 3: An eight and a half foot tall humanoid thing.
[6:30] Speaker 4: I guess it looked like Gallum from Lord of the Rings,
[6:34] Speaker 4: the one that is like my precious that has like
[6:38] Speaker 4: the stringy hair. But if he stood up, he would
[6:41] Speaker 4: probably have been about eight and a half feet tall.
[6:44] Speaker 3: Okay, this thing was gaunt.
[6:46] Speaker 4: It had almost like balding spots.
[6:50] Speaker 3: It was white grayish color. It was.
[6:54] Speaker 4: It moved on all fours from left to right across
[6:57] Speaker 4: the street, and it had a gate kind of like
[7:01] Speaker 4: a camel where the right front and right behind limb
[7:07] Speaker 4: moved with each other like this, so even the gate
[7:11] Speaker 4: looked weird, like it was not like a dog or
[7:14] Speaker 4: a human on off wards that would have the opposite.
[7:18] Speaker 4: It's called ipsilateral and contralateral gate. But camels have the
[7:22] Speaker 4: same gate that this thing had, and some primates also
[7:25] Speaker 4: have this gate that walk on for or that are quadrupedal.
[7:32] Speaker 4: The face was more human looking. It didn't have a
[7:36] Speaker 4: snout like a bear would. Bear was all I.
[7:38] Speaker 3: Could think of.
[7:39] Speaker 4: I'm like, that's got to be a sick, deformed bear.
[7:42] Speaker 4: That's all I've heard. People like the things that they're
[7:47] Speaker 4: going through in their head. It's so hard to see
[7:49] Speaker 4: something like this so hard because it changes you. It
[7:53] Speaker 4: just throws your whole reality off. I had a conversation
[7:57] Speaker 4: with this friend. Her name is Aaron as well, and
[8:00] Speaker 4: she remembers that she doesn't like talking about it scared
[8:05] Speaker 4: her to death. I was more interested. But it had
[8:10] Speaker 4: the back legs were like a human. They were long,
[8:14] Speaker 4: the knees were bent, and he walked on or he
[8:18] Speaker 4: I think, walked on the flats of its hands. And
[8:22] Speaker 4: when it walked it almost looked like it would curve
[8:27] Speaker 4: its foot and then put it down again, and like
[8:30] Speaker 4: a baseball met I guess is how like long fingers.
[8:35] Speaker 4: But another thing that I thought was really odd was
[8:39] Speaker 4: that I think if a human was on all wars,
[8:41] Speaker 4: our butts would be really up in the air. We
[8:44] Speaker 4: would our backs would be like this thing's back was
[8:46] Speaker 4: straight across. You could see all the spinest processes of
[8:50] Speaker 4: its spine. You could see all of its ribs. Its
[8:53] Speaker 4: abdomen was really tucked up. This thing looked like it
[8:56] Speaker 4: was starving and sick or something. Hands So yeah, and
[9:03] Speaker 4: I still never even thought ever of anything like a bigfoot.
[9:08] Speaker 4: It didn't have a tail, So.
[9:14] Speaker 1: This is extremely interesting. Do you remember what color it was.
[9:17] Speaker 4: It was white, It was like a gray white, and
[9:20] Speaker 4: the hairs on it was silvery, and the hairs were
[9:23] Speaker 4: really like it didn't have thick hair at all. It
[9:25] Speaker 4: was really I was like, I don't know a bear
[9:28] Speaker 4: with mange. I'm going to put it at that, but
[9:31] Speaker 4: it wasn't. It didn't look anything like a bear. That
[9:33] Speaker 4: was the closest I could come to the size of it.
[9:36] Speaker 4: The size was probably the only thing that would have
[9:40] Speaker 4: looked like a bear.
[9:42] Speaker 3: Otherwise it looked like a human a size of a bear.
[9:46] Speaker 1: Okay, eight and a half foot tall. And how much
[9:51] Speaker 1: would you estimate that it weighed? You said it was
[9:54] Speaker 1: pretty skinny.
[9:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was any probably like three point fifty.
[9:59] Speaker 2: Gotcha? How did affect you?
[10:01] Speaker 4: My PTSD came later from the one that I saw
[10:05] Speaker 4: that looked more like Patty. This didn't look like Patty.
[10:10] Speaker 4: So again, the bigfoot thing was way off the radar.
[10:16] Speaker 1: Okay, how far away from the car was it when
[10:19] Speaker 1: you guys saw it cross?
[10:21] Speaker 4: About thirty to fifty feet away, But we had full
[10:26] Speaker 4: lights on it.
[10:27] Speaker 3: We had the brights on in the car.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Okay, did it What happened to its eyes when the
[10:39] Speaker 1: headlights were on it.
[10:41] Speaker 4: It looked at us. Okay, it looked at us, and
[10:48] Speaker 4: it I know this happened, but I hate talking about it.
[10:54] Speaker 4: It kind of smiled at us like like you know,
[10:58] Speaker 4: like I don't know, it was awful looking, just absolutely awful.
[11:06] Speaker 1: So I know that you will definitely get what I'm
[11:10] Speaker 1: about to say. Sometimes when animals make a smile or
[11:17] Speaker 1: what looks like a smile, it'll mean something completely different
[11:21] Speaker 1: than when we will smile as humans. Did you get
[11:25] Speaker 1: any feeling as to it was an actual smile or
[11:28] Speaker 1: maybe something else.
[11:33] Speaker 4: I think it was more like like I'm not supposed
[11:38] Speaker 4: to be here kind of thing, Like it was I
[11:42] Speaker 4: we weren't supposed to be there, and it was not
[11:44] Speaker 4: supposed to be there. It was just one of these
[11:46] Speaker 4: chants encounters where it was more like I got kind
[11:52] Speaker 4: of caught, you know, they see me sort of thing.
[11:56] Speaker 4: I don't feel like it was like happy smiling at us.
[11:59] Speaker 4: It was either that like you know, they'll show animals
[12:02] Speaker 4: will show their teeth if there is a defense mechanism,
[12:06] Speaker 4: and I think that was more of where we were
[12:09] Speaker 4: with him it where it was just like caught off guard,
[12:13] Speaker 4: but it showed its teeth and that's really hard.
[12:17] Speaker 3: I think my.
[12:18] Speaker 4: Brain is even just not wanting to bring that part
[12:22] Speaker 4: up because that was the part that really maybe this.
[12:25] Speaker 3: Did constant best.
[12:28] Speaker 4: I don't know, but yeah, that's a really hard part
[12:32] Speaker 4: for me to describe because she didn't want to talk
[12:36] Speaker 4: about that part, and I struggle with it because it
[12:40] Speaker 4: looked human but it wasn't. There's no way it was
[12:44] Speaker 4: freezing cold. There was it was barefoot naked. I didn't
[12:48] Speaker 4: see any like sex organs on it, but its whole
[12:54] Speaker 4: abdom was so tucked up.
[12:56] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[12:56] Speaker 1: If I don't know, Okay, I can tell this is
[13:02] Speaker 1: definitely hard for you to talk about. I appreciate you
[13:05] Speaker 1: talking about it.
[13:07] Speaker 3: Oh, it gets work.
[13:09] Speaker 2: What do you feel like it was?
[13:11] Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had years to think about it, and
[13:14] Speaker 1: have you been able to categorize it into something or.
[13:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw a model of one that somebody had created,
[13:22] Speaker 4: so I know somebody else has seen one, And if
[13:24] Speaker 4: I had to categorize it, it would.
[13:27] Speaker 3: Be more like a skinwalker type.
[13:30] Speaker 4: Of If I had them all in a lineup, it
[13:34] Speaker 4: would definitely be like a what is the one with
[13:37] Speaker 4: the deer worns the wind to go win go?
[13:41] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[13:42] Speaker 4: Something wind to Go Skinwalker cross kind of thing. It's
[13:46] Speaker 4: more gaune, it's more ghostly, but it was real and
[13:50] Speaker 4: she saw it too. When like, and she's an attorney.
[13:54] Speaker 4: That's another reason I like to talk about I love
[13:57] Speaker 4: her to death. But she was like, Aaron, I can.
[14:00] Speaker 4: She forgot until I brought it up again. She was like,
[14:04] Speaker 4: and it was like, we went to bed that night
[14:07] Speaker 4: and woke up the next day and forgot.
[14:10] Speaker 3: And then I was like, remember that thing we saw.
[14:12] Speaker 4: But we had been out, We've been partying and stuff,
[14:14] Speaker 4: so I don't know if it was like something that
[14:17] Speaker 4: we just thought, Oh, maybe it was. I might have
[14:19] Speaker 4: said that that looked like a bear with mange or something,
[14:22] Speaker 4: and that's what she took that and ran with it.
[14:24] Speaker 4: You didn't really, you know, do anything else other than that.
[14:28] Speaker 3: But you know, now that I've been really kind.
[14:33] Speaker 4: Of knee deep in this stuff, you know, there's definitely
[14:39] Speaker 4: a chance that I'm not the only person that have
[14:41] Speaker 4: seen something that looked like a big Goalum, yeah, you're
[14:47] Speaker 4: definitely not.
[14:48] Speaker 1: I listening to your account, it reminds me of the
[14:53] Speaker 1: account of a friend. Her name is miss Leis Sterling
[14:58] Speaker 1: from down in miss Mississippi. And she had a sighting
[15:03] Speaker 1: very similar to you and what she I've interviewed her
[15:08] Speaker 1: on the show.
[15:08] Speaker 2: It was a few years ago.
[15:10] Speaker 1: She came to the realization that what she saw was
[15:14] Speaker 1: something called like a pale crawler or a rake.
[15:17] Speaker 3: Which rake is. Yeah, it really makes sense.
[15:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like you're aware of what that
[15:26] Speaker 1: all entails too, And.
[15:27] Speaker 4: You've seen I think the rake is darker though from
[15:31] Speaker 4: what I've heard, I think I would think of I
[15:34] Speaker 4: always think of the ring where it has like the
[15:37] Speaker 4: long black hair, it has more than the lee legs.
[15:42] Speaker 1: Okay, did it have a claws on its hands at
[15:47] Speaker 1: all that you saw?
[15:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the nails were a little bit longer
[15:52] Speaker 4: than a human's, but I wouldn't call them claws. They
[15:55] Speaker 4: looked more like elongated fingernails. And everything about him was spindlief,
[16:02] Speaker 4: just longer than everything It wasn't. It didn't seem like
[16:08] Speaker 4: it was a human three times the size. It was
[16:12] Speaker 4: more like a human, but three times as long, like
[16:16] Speaker 4: longer fingers, like my fingers would have been like out
[16:20] Speaker 4: like that. You know what I'm saying. Everything was longer
[16:24] Speaker 4: on this thing. It's not like it was bigger, it
[16:27] Speaker 4: was longer.
[16:29] Speaker 1: Gotcha, So nineteen ninety six, so you're in your college
[16:34] Speaker 1: years and then and then I got to that school.
[16:38] Speaker 4: I got into VET School, so that was down in
[16:40] Speaker 4: the Caribbean. Nothing happened in the Caribbean school. Yeah, So
[16:46] Speaker 4: I get back to the States and I decide that
[16:51] Speaker 4: I don't because I was in a third world country
[16:52] Speaker 4: down there, and I really had a fabulous experience at
[16:55] Speaker 4: Ross University.
[16:57] Speaker 3: So I decided that I really wanted.
[16:59] Speaker 4: To move to this place that was close to Virginia Beach,
[17:02] Speaker 4: where I grew up, but it was across the Chesapeake Bay.
[17:05] Speaker 4: So it's north of Virginia Beach, across this mile long
[17:09] Speaker 4: bridge called the chest Peake Bay Bridge Tunnel, and over
[17:12] Speaker 4: there it's like you go back in time. It's thirty
[17:15] Speaker 4: years back in time. And I moved on to a
[17:19] Speaker 4: horse traders farm into a double wide trailer.
[17:23] Speaker 3: And.
[17:25] Speaker 4: I was way out in the woods and I had
[17:28] Speaker 4: all sorts of animals out there. It was great, and
[17:30] Speaker 4: I worked on the large animal truck and did small
[17:34] Speaker 4: animals in the hospital. I was thirty minutes from the
[17:38] Speaker 4: main drag, which is I thirteen, so everything shut down.
[17:42] Speaker 3: They were there very rural.
[17:44] Speaker 4: And I would make big bonfires out there at night.
[17:47] Speaker 4: And the owner of the farm lived about a mile away,
[17:52] Speaker 4: so you could see his house across the cornfields, but
[17:55] Speaker 4: he was like a mile away my trailers back in
[17:58] Speaker 4: the woods.
[17:59] Speaker 3: I was not scared thing. And it was about ten
[18:02] Speaker 3: o'clock at night, and I was in.
[18:04] Speaker 4: Bed and I was starting to fall asleep, and it's
[18:07] Speaker 4: dark out there. I'm way out in the woods, right,
[18:09] Speaker 4: I mean, if something happened to me, this was dumb.
[18:11] Speaker 4: If something happened to me, there was We didn't really
[18:13] Speaker 4: even have like cell phone out there. So I'm falling asleep.
[18:20] Speaker 4: And if you're picturing a trailer, okay, if this is
[18:24] Speaker 4: the front of the trailer, you come into the trailer
[18:26] Speaker 4: and it goes side to side. Okay, I'm on this
[18:29] Speaker 4: side and the other bedroom was on this side, and
[18:36] Speaker 4: I'm falling asleep, and all of a sudden, it sounds
[18:39] Speaker 4: like something bipedal that's about five hundred pounds lands on
[18:46] Speaker 4: the opposite.
[18:47] Speaker 3: Side of the trailer, and the whole thing shakes boom,
[18:52] Speaker 3: and it shakes me awake.
[18:54] Speaker 4: Right, I've got goats outside, dogs, nothing is everything's motionless outside, chickens, everything,
[19:04] Speaker 4: And I'm frozen in fear. Okay, And it starts to
[19:10] Speaker 4: walk towards my bedroom on the ceiling, and as it walks,
[19:14] Speaker 4: it's in the middle of the trailer where the top
[19:17] Speaker 4: comes up. As it walks, its stride is about four
[19:23] Speaker 4: feet in length. And every time it lands afoot, this
[19:28] Speaker 4: trailer goes to the side and then it lands the
[19:31] Speaker 4: other foot.
[19:32] Speaker 3: And it took one, two, three, four, five, six seven.
[19:42] Speaker 3: It took ten steps and now it's standing over.
[19:46] Speaker 4: The top of me, and I pass out. I don't
[19:51] Speaker 4: know if I pass out in fear.
[19:52] Speaker 3: I don't know. If it did something to me where.
[19:58] Speaker 4: It or circuted my brain, I don't know.
[20:04] Speaker 3: And I woke up the.
[20:05] Speaker 4: Next day and my rooster, his name was Brad. He
[20:10] Speaker 4: only had one eye, was like looking at my window
[20:13] Speaker 4: and he's like, and I wake up, and I'm still
[20:17] Speaker 4: in the same position that I was in, like on
[20:20] Speaker 4: my back, frozen in fear that I was when I
[20:25] Speaker 4: heard it land and start walking across the roof. So
[20:33] Speaker 4: still didn't think bigfoot, but I started asking around, what's bipedal?
[20:39] Speaker 4: Five hundred pounds? What I started asking myself what was that?
[20:44] Speaker 4: I go outside to see.
[20:45] Speaker 3: If the goat got sucked I don't know. Is it
[20:48] Speaker 3: tuper cabre?
[20:49] Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I don't know, and people are like,
[20:52] Speaker 4: maybe it was an owl. I can't even think of
[20:55] Speaker 4: the largest bird out there, which is a great blue heron.
[20:58] Speaker 4: They're not flying around night, first of all, and even
[21:02] Speaker 4: if one of those landed, it would be like a
[21:03] Speaker 4: clickety clack kind of thing because they have or they
[21:06] Speaker 4: even have fat flat feet that they walk around the marsh.
[21:09] Speaker 4: And they're not going to sound like a man five
[21:12] Speaker 4: times in size.
[21:13] Speaker 3: They're just not. And so still didn't think anything of it.
[21:21] Speaker 3: But I realized how.
[21:23] Speaker 4: Dangerous it was to be out there by myself, and
[21:26] Speaker 4: so I moved back here. And now I'm back in
[21:30] Speaker 4: Virginia Beach and my house is backing up to the
[21:35] Speaker 4: woods where I grew up. And the same thing happened
[21:39] Speaker 4: over here. But this time this is the part that
[21:42] Speaker 4: I don't, that I can't, This is where I'm really struggling.
[21:48] Speaker 3: This time, it was in the house. I was laying I'm.
[21:50] Speaker 4: Just gonna should I show you with the camera. There's
[21:53] Speaker 4: a couch right there. I was laying on the couch.
[21:55] Speaker 4: It's ten o'clock at night. There's stairs that go up
[21:59] Speaker 4: behind like the camera that you're on behind you, they
[22:05] Speaker 4: go behind you. And this night I was falling asleep.
[22:08] Speaker 3: I was on the couch and.
[22:11] Speaker 4: At the top of the stairs, something starts stomping, okay,
[22:17] Speaker 4: and it was shaking the house, and it was stomping
[22:21] Speaker 4: in series of three, and it did it twelve times.
[22:25] Speaker 4: And I had wooden Venetian blinds upstairs on three windows,
[22:30] Speaker 4: and one of these blinds were slamming into the frame
[22:37] Speaker 4: with the stomps. Okay, So the stomps were like one
[22:40] Speaker 4: two three, one two three and so loud. And my
[22:44] Speaker 4: daughter's asleep underneath the stairs, Okay, she didn't hear any
[22:48] Speaker 4: of this. I'm absolutely terrified. I'm like, there's a man
[22:52] Speaker 4: or something upstairs. But the blinds. In order to slam
[22:56] Speaker 4: the blinds that hard and that fast against the window pane,
[23:03] Speaker 4: you would have had to pull the blinds up over
[23:05] Speaker 4: your head and with all your might slam them into
[23:08] Speaker 4: the and that would take time, right, But they were
[23:11] Speaker 4: slamming with this force that was so loud and the
[23:17] Speaker 4: and so it went one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, ten, eleven, twelve,
[23:22] Speaker 4: and then it went silent, and I start crying, and
[23:27] Speaker 4: because as a mother. If I hear this thing start
[23:31] Speaker 4: to descend the stairs, I've got to face it because
[23:34] Speaker 4: I'm gonna do I'm gonna die. I'm gonna do everything
[23:36] Speaker 4: that I possibly can to keep it from hurting my daughter.
[23:42] Speaker 3: Okay, So again I'm frozen on the.
[23:45] Speaker 4: Couch and I'm waiting for this thing to start coming
[23:49] Speaker 4: down the stairs.
[23:50] Speaker 3: And I was like, what do I have? I had
[23:52] Speaker 3: a taser.
[23:54] Speaker 4: I don't know the things I just I don't even
[23:57] Speaker 4: know if these things can be killed like with a book.
[24:00] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[24:01] Speaker 4: So anyway, I'm laying there in fear and I'm on
[24:06] Speaker 4: mother bear mood.
[24:07] Speaker 3: I'm like, the.
[24:07] Speaker 4: Minute i hear a creek on that stair, I'm coming up.
[24:10] Speaker 4: I didn't want to see it. I didn't want to
[24:12] Speaker 4: I didn't want to have that picture of whatever it
[24:15] Speaker 4: is in my head, but I knew it was big,
[24:18] Speaker 4: and whatever it.
[24:19] Speaker 3: Was lands on the roof.
[24:22] Speaker 4: So it was in the house and now it's on
[24:24] Speaker 4: the roof, okay, And so I'm just going to show
[24:27] Speaker 4: you what my roof looks like.
[24:29] Speaker 2: Okay, so.
[24:32] Speaker 3: Excuse a mess. This is my kitchen, okay. And so
[24:37] Speaker 3: my roof is.
[24:38] Speaker 4: Vaulted, right, it goes all the way up there to
[24:42] Speaker 4: the ceiling, and then this is the couch that I
[24:46] Speaker 4: was laying on, and my head was.
[24:47] Speaker 3: Underneath the surfboard right there.
[24:50] Speaker 4: Okay, so it lands on the roof above the.
[24:55] Speaker 3: Door right there.
[24:57] Speaker 4: Boom, another one right, and let me set this back up.
[25:03] Speaker 3: And it takes seven steps. So it's coming up the
[25:07] Speaker 3: roof again just right above where I was laying and stops.
[25:14] Speaker 4: So it took seven steps about four a stride of
[25:19] Speaker 4: about four feet and stops above me and I pass
[25:26] Speaker 4: out again.
[25:27] Speaker 2: Oh again, yeah wow.
[25:34] Speaker 4: So now from the Eastern Shore to this, Now I'm like,
[25:41] Speaker 4: I gotta figure out what this is.
[25:44] Speaker 3: And the anxiety of it coming back.
[25:47] Speaker 4: There was a ten year span between the time I
[25:51] Speaker 4: left the Eastern Shore and moved back here. But when
[25:55] Speaker 4: I first moved back here, rocks would hit this roof.
[26:00] Speaker 3: All the time.
[26:02] Speaker 4: And my neighbor came out and was like, this happened
[26:06] Speaker 4: after the thing was on the roof.
[26:07] Speaker 3: He goes, what happened to your gutter?
[26:10] Speaker 4: And on that side of the house, the gutter was
[26:13] Speaker 4: pulled out about this far from the side of the house,
[26:17] Speaker 4: and they there were one inch thick, eight inch long
[26:24] Speaker 4: threaded bolts that bolted the gutter into the side of
[26:29] Speaker 4: the house. And then the AC guy was like, something's
[26:32] Speaker 4: been on your roof because the entire top of my
[26:36] Speaker 4: AC is it looks like something jumped down off of
[26:40] Speaker 4: the roof onto the AC unit.
[26:41] Speaker 3: Still there.
[26:43] Speaker 1: Okay, you have actual evidence that something was up there.
[26:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see. Oh I have.
[26:52] Speaker 4: I have a video of my cat on the roof.
[26:56] Speaker 3: He never gets up there, and he's like, look, it's
[27:00] Speaker 3: right there. I couldn't see it.
[27:01] Speaker 4: And as I'm standing there looking and there's no one around.
[27:06] Speaker 3: This is like midnight, no one around, a rock comes
[27:09] Speaker 3: hurling at the house. It's terrifying, and I'm like, all right, I'm.
[27:14] Speaker 4: Just gonna go back inside because I don't know, like
[27:17] Speaker 4: what throws rocks and walks on two feet and it's
[27:21] Speaker 4: gotta be big, but.
[27:23] Speaker 3: It's got to be.
[27:25] Speaker 4: There is nothing else that I can come up with
[27:28] Speaker 4: on this planet.
[27:30] Speaker 3: And then I see one. So two years ago, fast
[27:34] Speaker 3: forward spring break with.
[27:37] Speaker 4: My daughter, right and we go to Bush Gardens, which
[27:40] Speaker 4: is in Williamsburg.
[27:41] Speaker 3: It's so much fun. We love the roller coasters.
[27:44] Speaker 4: And then the next stop was to go stay at
[27:46] Speaker 4: my best friend's house in Richmond. So she's in mid
[27:53] Speaker 4: Lothian actually, so that's on kind of the south side
[27:55] Speaker 4: of Richmond. So we take sixty four west to two
[27:59] Speaker 4: ninety five south and we're going south around Richmond, and
[28:04] Speaker 4: we're in the groove and my daughter's riding shotgun and
[28:08] Speaker 4: she's looking at the iPad and all of a sudden
[28:13] Speaker 4: she asked me a question, and I look over at
[28:16] Speaker 4: her and I look up into the woods and it's
[28:20] Speaker 4: probably like five thirty six o'clock at night, and I
[28:23] Speaker 4: see it and it's the back of one.
[28:27] Speaker 3: And it's huge. It's huge, and it was amber colored.
[28:32] Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
[28:34] Speaker 4: It was absolutely astonishingly amazing to see, and probably eight
[28:45] Speaker 4: two It looked male from behind. I only saw it
[28:49] Speaker 4: from behind, and it was standing. So if so, I'm driving,
[28:57] Speaker 4: I'm going seventy miles an hour and it's up on
[29:00] Speaker 4: the ridge of so there's a ditch and then there's
[29:05] Speaker 4: a ridge and a bunch of trees along the ridge.
[29:08] Speaker 3: And I saw it from behind like this.
[29:11] Speaker 4: And it's bent backwards like it's looking at something in
[29:15] Speaker 4: the trees.
[29:15] Speaker 3: It looked like it had hair like haul cogin right short.
[29:20] Speaker 4: Its shoulders were like I would have to stand on
[29:25] Speaker 4: my tippytoes to like feel its shoulders. It was massive
[29:30] Speaker 4: and it was leaning back like this, and then it
[29:35] Speaker 4: looked down and took a step to its left. And
[29:39] Speaker 4: when I saw its hands swing underneath it's it's knee.
[29:44] Speaker 4: I knew for sure that I was looking at one.
[29:47] Speaker 4: And when it stepped, it had like an air.
[29:49] Speaker 3: It looked like that.
[29:50] Speaker 4: We have cedar trees here, so if you know what
[29:53] Speaker 4: cedar color is, that's what it's fur looked like. So
[29:56] Speaker 4: it had hair like hal cogain like length down to
[30:01] Speaker 4: its shoulders.
[30:02] Speaker 3: Its shoulders went up to its head. On the side.
[30:06] Speaker 4: It had a conical shape to the top. It was
[30:09] Speaker 4: bending like at the waist. I guess they don't really
[30:14] Speaker 4: have the ability to move their head very well up
[30:17] Speaker 4: and down, so they move at their waist and it's
[30:23] Speaker 4: about mid calf. It had a lot more hair, almost
[30:28] Speaker 4: like a Clydesdale would have.
[30:30] Speaker 3: Like the trees. It looked like the trees. It looked
[30:32] Speaker 3: like the cypress trees.
[30:33] Speaker 4: They all look like that, and they have the cypress
[30:36] Speaker 4: knees coming up and the hair on my arms and
[30:41] Speaker 4: my legs. We were wearing shorts at the time. Hurt
[30:45] Speaker 4: so bad. It was my hair on. My arms were
[30:49] Speaker 4: so stuck out. I went completely white. And my daughter
[30:54] Speaker 4: clicked me out of it. She goes, Mama, what's wrong, mom,
[30:57] Speaker 4: what's wrong with you? And I didn't want to tell her.
[31:00] Speaker 4: I just I didn't know what to say. I wasn't shocked.
[31:05] Speaker 4: It wasn't a horrible experience like.
[31:07] Speaker 3: Some of these people have. I cannot imagine it being
[31:12] Speaker 3: focused on me. It didn't see us, or it knew
[31:16] Speaker 3: that we were there, but it didn't care. I don't
[31:18] Speaker 3: know either one.
[31:19] Speaker 4: It was hard to see, but I'm very I used
[31:21] Speaker 4: to love to find the moths and stuff that were
[31:25] Speaker 4: camouflaged in the trees and stuff, and I'm good at it.
[31:28] Speaker 4: We used to have bees and I could find that
[31:30] Speaker 4: the queen bee pretty easily. So is looking, always looking,
[31:35] Speaker 4: I point out stuff all the time.
[31:37] Speaker 3: But I saw it, and I tried. I was like, hey,
[31:41] Speaker 3: we got to turn around. I think I saw something
[31:43] Speaker 3: in the wood. She was like, and then she starts
[31:44] Speaker 3: filming me. She was like, would you see a bigfoot?
[31:48] Speaker 4: And he actually has a video of me, and I
[31:51] Speaker 4: look at myself and I can see how white I
[31:55] Speaker 4: am and how much in shock I am, and how
[31:58] Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell her what I saw, and
[32:02] Speaker 4: we It was in Verona. It was in The scary
[32:05] Speaker 4: part is that there were not too far away in
[32:08] Speaker 4: the distant background, there were people's houses and stuff, like,
[32:11] Speaker 4: I'm sure they've got kids playing around in the woods
[32:14] Speaker 4: along the side of the ninety five. They're here, They're
[32:18] Speaker 4: there at least how I understand it. Yeah, it was ripped.
[32:24] Speaker 3: It looked like the back of a like a football player,
[32:28] Speaker 3: which okay, yeah, wow.
[32:31] Speaker 2: That is really intense. I want to make sure that
[32:33] Speaker 2: I have all the info. So what was the year
[32:36] Speaker 2: on this again?
[32:38] Speaker 1: Twenty two, twenty twenty two, and this is you said?
[32:42] Speaker 1: Is on two ninety five? Were you near a certain.
[32:46] Speaker 3: Town Verona and Chester?
[32:50] Speaker 4: Oh?
[32:50] Speaker 2: Okay, is that is v A v R I N A.
[32:54] Speaker 2: That got it?
[32:57] Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes Zion and then Verona and Chester.
[33:02] Speaker 4: So we had done. I turned into Verona, but there's
[33:08] Speaker 4: no I don't know what they're called figure eight or
[33:11] Speaker 4: whatever on the highway. And so I was so frustrated
[33:15] Speaker 4: because I wanted to get back on, get off, get
[33:18] Speaker 4: back on again, and pass that because to me, I
[33:21] Speaker 4: was like, what if somebody put like a cardboard cutout
[33:24] Speaker 4: and I'm like, Aaron, you know what you saw?
[33:26] Speaker 3: That was not a cardboard cutout at all. I saw
[33:29] Speaker 3: the mass of it. It was moving. It looked up twice.
[33:33] Speaker 4: It was almost I almost got the feeling it was
[33:35] Speaker 4: trying to get two little ones down from the trees because.
[33:38] Speaker 3: They were too curly to the road or something. That's
[33:40] Speaker 3: that's the feeling I got from it.
[33:42] Speaker 1: Okay, And was this before you go over the James River? Yes, okay,
[33:49] Speaker 1: probably pretty far before that. I would guess pretty far.
[33:52] Speaker 4: We were probably about half an hour out because I
[33:55] Speaker 4: just called my friend. I was like, we're about a
[33:57] Speaker 4: half an hour out and then I see it and
[34:00] Speaker 4: she was like, dude, what took you so long? Did
[34:04] Speaker 4: you get lost or whatever? And I couldn't talk. I
[34:08] Speaker 4: just sat down in her living room. She was like,
[34:10] Speaker 4: what's wrong with your mom? And finally I just blew
[34:15] Speaker 4: up and told everybody, and everyone thinks that I was joking, but.
[34:19] Speaker 3: They're like, oh no, not this again.
[34:21] Speaker 4: Because this is why I said in the beginning, I
[34:24] Speaker 4: wish I had seen it first and then had these experiences,
[34:27] Speaker 4: because after the first one, the white one, I was like,
[34:32] Speaker 4: it never thought bigfoot. It took the second time and
[34:35] Speaker 4: the fact that it was in the house, and that
[34:37] Speaker 4: still to this day is one of the accounts that
[34:40] Speaker 4: I have not heard from other people.
[34:43] Speaker 3: That's the one that bothers.
[34:45] Speaker 2: Me, the one one that was on top of your house,
[34:50] Speaker 2: but it was in the house first, right, Yeah.
[34:52] Speaker 1: Which is weird because it's okay, can it just go
[34:55] Speaker 1: directly through walls, right directly through the roof?
[34:58] Speaker 2: That's weird, right.
[35:00] Speaker 4: Another one that's like slamming, where there are two of
[35:02] Speaker 4: them them out there. They were like slamming, one of
[35:04] Speaker 4: them slamming the way and I don't have detachable screens
[35:08] Speaker 4: up there, like you actually have to punch them out.
[35:11] Speaker 3: I looked for even tiny little holes because some of these.
[35:16] Speaker 4: Accounts have the orbs when they're associated with sightings, and
[35:20] Speaker 4: so are they able to go into a different energy
[35:25] Speaker 4: form like a glowing orb?
[35:28] Speaker 3: Are they interdimensional?
[35:31] Speaker 4: There's so many questions at this point, and it's such
[35:35] Speaker 4: a rabbit hole.
[35:37] Speaker 3: Such a rabbit hole it is.
[35:40] Speaker 2: What year was it that you had the roof experience?
[35:43] Speaker 4: Two thousand eighteen, I think, okay, it was two days
[35:50] Speaker 4: before Valentine's Day. That would have been on a Valentine's Day,
[35:54] Speaker 4: was on a Tuesday, So this was on a Sunday night.
[35:59] Speaker 3: I've got it all written down somewhere.
[36:02] Speaker 1: How far back was the experience when you're in the
[36:06] Speaker 1: trailer by yourself?
[36:07] Speaker 3: That was two thousand and nine?
[36:10] Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha any of these places, I guess you know
[36:17] Speaker 1: the house with the when they were on the roof,
[36:19] Speaker 1: and then the trailer were there like weird things being
[36:22] Speaker 1: left around the property? Ever, did you ever run into any.
[36:25] Speaker 2: Stuff like that?
[36:27] Speaker 4: So after the one in two thousand in the trailer,
[36:31] Speaker 4: I did have chickens out there, and unfortunately my father
[36:35] Speaker 4: passed away, so I had to come home to Virginia.
[36:37] Speaker 3: Beach for two weeks. So it was a suicide. It
[36:41] Speaker 3: was really weird.
[36:43] Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that.
[36:44] Speaker 3: It's okay.
[36:45] Speaker 4: When I got back to my trailer, something had killed
[36:50] Speaker 4: all of my chickens and it looked like a pillow
[36:53] Speaker 4: fight had happened on the property. But I found all
[36:56] Speaker 4: of their bodies, and I remember calling the wildlife rehaber
[37:03] Speaker 4: and I'm like, what kind of animal coyote or whatever
[37:09] Speaker 4: comes and kills everything but doesn't eat it?
[37:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly why would it do that?
[37:17] Speaker 4: And then you hear these people they'll leave their property
[37:19] Speaker 4: and the thing gets angry because I don't know they're
[37:22] Speaker 4: gifting it or whatever is happening where they get mad
[37:26] Speaker 4: and they'll destroy stuff.
[37:29] Speaker 3: But yeah, whatever it was.
[37:30] Speaker 4: Her answer to me was that it was probably raccoons
[37:34] Speaker 4: because they're like sight hounds and they like to play
[37:37] Speaker 4: and chase. But still, you would think in the middle
[37:40] Speaker 4: of February in Virginia that it would have eaten them.
[37:46] Speaker 4: The food isn't everywhere. You would think at least they
[37:49] Speaker 4: would have eaten them, all four of them. I found
[37:52] Speaker 4: all four of them.
[37:53] Speaker 1: Were they killed in a weird way or they weren't
[37:58] Speaker 1: missing heads or it looked like they were wrung out
[38:00] Speaker 1: or anything like that.
[38:03] Speaker 4: Okay, No, it just looks like they whatever, tore all
[38:08] Speaker 4: their feathers off and it was just like basically their
[38:11] Speaker 4: bodies were left.
[38:13] Speaker 3: I don't remember if they had heads or not. I
[38:15] Speaker 3: think I would have remembered if the heads, if they
[38:18] Speaker 3: were decapitated, because that's just weird. Yeah, they were just dead.
[38:24] Speaker 4: I don't even I can't even thinking back. I don't
[38:27] Speaker 4: even know what killed them, how they died, Just thinking
[38:31] Speaker 4: about finding their bodies like they looked intact. It wasn't
[38:35] Speaker 4: like something took their heads off or smashed them or anything.
[38:39] Speaker 4: They just looked like they're pulled all their feathers out
[38:41] Speaker 4: all over the property. It looked like it snowed on
[38:44] Speaker 4: my property when I got back.
[38:46] Speaker 3: It was weird.
[38:48] Speaker 1: So what you saw when you were driving down to
[38:54] Speaker 1: ninety five and you had that sighting, are you able
[38:59] Speaker 1: to make a comparison to any other animal that you
[39:04] Speaker 1: know of, like in size? Okay, so's a really big human, really.
[39:11] Speaker 3: Big hairy human.
[39:12] Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
[39:15] Speaker 3: And he had like a I mean just ripped this thing.
[39:20] Speaker 4: But you could see his deltoid's like you could see
[39:23] Speaker 4: his biceps, his glutes were huge, like.
[39:27] Speaker 3: Hit the legs, like the strength of this thing. They
[39:31] Speaker 3: say that.
[39:32] Speaker 4: Another thing that I learned in school was that chimpanzees
[39:37] Speaker 4: are so much stronger than us because their limbs are longer.
[39:41] Speaker 3: They have that torque that we just don't have.
[39:44] Speaker 4: And that's what makes them so much stronger is the
[39:47] Speaker 4: length of It's like a wrench. Two sizes of a wrench.
[39:51] Speaker 4: With a long one, you're gonna get so much more
[39:53] Speaker 4: torque on the bolt than you would on a shorter wind.
[39:58] Speaker 4: And yeah, I have some about some of this though.
[40:02] Speaker 4: A lot of people say that the woods go silent,
[40:04] Speaker 4: and I've thought about that a lot. When insects go silent,
[40:08] Speaker 4: what would make that happen? And the only thing that
[40:11] Speaker 4: I could come up with is a vibration. I think
[40:15] Speaker 4: that these things are vibrating in a certain way. I
[40:18] Speaker 4: think sound plays, and it's a sound that we can't hear.
[40:22] Speaker 4: So an interesting like science like project would be to
[40:27] Speaker 4: broadcast different low frequency sounds onto a field of crickets,
[40:32] Speaker 4: for example, in the summer, to see if it stops them.
[40:36] Speaker 3: So I think this thing is at a different frequency.
[40:42] Speaker 3: I could tell that my cat could was staring.
[40:45] Speaker 4: At something when he was on the roof that night,
[40:48] Speaker 4: and because I'm around cats, I love cats. I really
[40:52] Speaker 4: would love to just go into feline practice. But he
[40:56] Speaker 4: was looking at me and looking back at it and
[40:58] Speaker 4: looking at me like you can't see that. Like he
[41:02] Speaker 4: kept looking back and forth. His body posture, tail was
[41:07] Speaker 4: puffed and around, and he's looking at me like this
[41:11] Speaker 4: and looking at it like a.
[41:12] Speaker 3: Person would be like you can't see that, are you blind?
[41:16] Speaker 4: And it's like in the corner of the back of
[41:19] Speaker 4: the house, and then the rock hits the house. I
[41:23] Speaker 4: know the cat clearly, could see it, clearly could see
[41:29] Speaker 4: it with the cloaking. I've seen a video of an octopus,
[41:34] Speaker 4: and I would love to see their DNA be matched
[41:37] Speaker 4: with an octopus or matched against an octopus, because some
[41:42] Speaker 4: of these encounters where these things are crawling on off
[41:45] Speaker 4: wards and they're going up backwards on like rock faces
[41:49] Speaker 4: and stuff. It's just weird that the octopus there was
[41:54] Speaker 4: they have something like nine brains. And there are people
[41:59] Speaker 4: say that there were stories about people killing these big
[42:03] Speaker 4: foot back in the day and they had two hearts.
[42:06] Speaker 4: There's Claire's account from Sasquatch Chronicles that said that they
[42:10] Speaker 4: were going down to the ocean and they were putting
[42:13] Speaker 4: stuff on them like seaweed and stuff. There's a lot
[42:16] Speaker 4: of aquatic species that appear almost invisible.
[42:20] Speaker 3: I've had invisible fish.
[42:21] Speaker 4: In my tank where you can literally see through these organisms.
[42:26] Speaker 4: They still have cells like we do, but for some reason,
[42:29] Speaker 4: you can see through them. You can see all their
[42:31] Speaker 4: little parts. The octopus, and there was a video of
[42:35] Speaker 4: one where they had a checkerboard floor to this tank
[42:39] Speaker 4: and they throw this octopus in and all of a sudden,
[42:41] Speaker 4: you can't see them. He's checkerboard, so it's in nature.
[42:45] Speaker 4: Bioluminescence in nature, you know these eyshine and stuff.
[42:50] Speaker 3: Yes, we have that already.
[42:52] Speaker 4: We've seen it on the planet, especially the deep sea animals.
[42:58] Speaker 4: They all have this by all make light.
[43:02] Speaker 1: The thing you said about frequencies is super interesting, and
[43:05] Speaker 1: I think it's more true than you might realize. A
[43:08] Speaker 1: lot of researchers right now, I think that there's a
[43:12] Speaker 1: huge possibility that Bigfoot are able to use something called infrasound,
[43:16] Speaker 1: which I know that you're probably aware as well that
[43:20] Speaker 1: it's used in other animals yep, tigers, irons exactly.
[43:24] Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what happens to me when
[43:27] Speaker 4: I'm confronted with this. I ended up going up to
[43:34] Speaker 4: the woods and yelled at it. My last thought when
[43:38] Speaker 4: it was the roof and here was you gotta be
[43:41] Speaker 4: kidding me? Was it? I just got to I get
[43:45] Speaker 4: to the point where I'm like, Okay, I can't kill you.
[43:48] Speaker 4: You can obviously hurt me. You can hurt my brain
[43:52] Speaker 4: by terrifying me.
[43:54] Speaker 3: What do you want?
[43:56] Speaker 2: So you went out and confronted it really went.
[43:59] Speaker 3: It was later, but I just said, you're scaring me.
[44:02] Speaker 3: I have a little girl.
[44:04] Speaker 4: I'm not going to hurt you, but stop throwing rocks
[44:07] Speaker 4: at the house and just get take a log off
[44:11] Speaker 4: that fire.
[44:12] Speaker 3: I don't know if you came from the Eastern Shore.
[44:14] Speaker 3: I don't know if you know me from growing up.
[44:17] Speaker 4: And that's why immediately when I moved into this house,
[44:20] Speaker 4: the rocks started hitting the house. They would hit the
[44:23] Speaker 4: roof and roll down, hit the roof and roll down,
[44:26] Speaker 4: every fifteen minutes. And this is before I even thought Bigfoot.
[44:32] Speaker 4: What really got me was the fact that it was
[44:36] Speaker 4: on one of the podcasts. It just said if there's one,
[44:40] Speaker 4: it has to have parents, and I was like, oh,
[44:46] Speaker 4: there's more than one, because I'm thinking, this thing is
[44:48] Speaker 4: white and it's up in the Pacific Northwest, and it's
[44:52] Speaker 4: a story that the Native Americans used to tell, and
[44:56] Speaker 4: that's it. That's it.
[44:59] Speaker 3: And when I I started really thinking about it, I'm like,
[45:02] Speaker 3: they're everywhere. They're everywhere.
[45:07] Speaker 1: There's even in Virginia, Like I've gotten some really interesting reports.
[45:13] Speaker 1: I've sighting over by Gloucester. Matthews. There was a sighting
[45:19] Speaker 1: over there in the twenty tens. And then there was
[45:22] Speaker 1: a gentleman I was talking to once and he actually
[45:25] Speaker 1: was driving down ninety five near Petersburg in twenty nineteen,
[45:32] Speaker 1: and he had seen what looked like a large covered
[45:35] Speaker 1: body with shaggy brown hair and protruding limbs under a
[45:38] Speaker 1: tarp that was being guarded by multiple state vehicles on
[45:43] Speaker 1: the side of the road. That's wild and that was
[45:46] Speaker 1: just Petersburg ninety five in twenty nineteen.
[45:51] Speaker 4: I just read by I had to go down to
[45:54] Speaker 4: North Carolina to pick up my daughter and there's like
[45:57] Speaker 4: a this is in Chesapeake, Virginia. I had to take
[46:03] Speaker 4: a right off of the highway and there.
[46:06] Speaker 3: Was a two This is so weird. There was a
[46:09] Speaker 3: two story like.
[46:12] Speaker 4: Cage in the middle of the roundabout you know how
[46:15] Speaker 4: you get off the interstate. And it was like a
[46:18] Speaker 4: two story cage with chickens in it and a bunch
[46:23] Speaker 4: of like military looking guys with bloodhounds walking all around
[46:28] Speaker 4: the thing. Okay, I get that somebody could have died
[46:32] Speaker 4: on the side of the highway and that's what the
[46:33] Speaker 4: bloodhounds are for, But what are the chickens doing in
[46:36] Speaker 4: a two story cage?
[46:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird, right why.
[46:42] Speaker 4: I'm like, they're trying to catch an animal out here.
[46:45] Speaker 4: That's the only reason why they would bring these.
[46:49] Speaker 1: My goodness, that's some wild stuff. I want to also
[46:54] Speaker 1: do a word of caution for some listeners that are
[46:57] Speaker 1: thinking about the whole frequency thing. There are people that
[47:00] Speaker 1: I've talked to before that I've actually gotten to the
[47:06] Speaker 1: point where they are able to send out the frequency
[47:10] Speaker 1: called infra sound, and I would recommend not to do that.
[47:14] Speaker 2: It's led to.
[47:16] Speaker 1: Them being chased out of the woods in certain areas
[47:19] Speaker 1: down in the South. And I think there's a lot
[47:22] Speaker 1: we don't understand about frequency and how it relates to
[47:27] Speaker 1: whatever Bigfoot is, and I would really recommend not playing
[47:32] Speaker 1: around with stuff like that.
[47:33] Speaker 2: So there you go, but it can get really interesting.
[47:39] Speaker 4: That Skinwalker. I don't know if you watch that the
[47:42] Speaker 4: series they did, was it Discovery?
[47:45] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Skinwalker Rancho.
[47:46] Speaker 4: But the on their geigameter is that what it's called.
[47:50] Speaker 4: It kept hitting a certain frequency. I don't know if
[47:53] Speaker 4: you remember that part or not, but it would when
[47:57] Speaker 4: activity would start, it would at this one it was
[48:01] Speaker 4: like three point four or something like that. I don't remember,
[48:06] Speaker 4: but it would happen every time.
[48:09] Speaker 1: So I'm sure someone I know there's a lot of
[48:12] Speaker 1: listeners that are also into those shows too, and I'm
[48:16] Speaker 1: sure someone can put in the comments exactly what that
[48:19] Speaker 1: number is.
[48:20] Speaker 2: So how is.
[48:23] Speaker 1: You know the last thing then you experienced was the
[48:26] Speaker 1: sighting on two ninety five, and then how did that
[48:29] Speaker 1: affect you afterwards?
[48:32] Speaker 4: It was validating in a way because I still was like,
[48:37] Speaker 4: at least I note that exists. I still don't know
[48:43] Speaker 4: how things got into the house and out without making
[48:47] Speaker 4: a noise getting out of the house and landing on
[48:50] Speaker 4: the roof and all that they get into Mothman and
[48:53] Speaker 4: all that stuff.
[48:54] Speaker 3: I think about it constantly.
[48:57] Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, Like, every time I'm driving through
[49:03] Speaker 4: the woods, I think about it.
[49:05] Speaker 3: I'm looking for it.
[49:06] Speaker 4: It. I wish I could say that it doesn't encompass
[49:11] Speaker 4: every thought in my head, but there's not probably three
[49:15] Speaker 4: hours that go by that I don't think about it
[49:18] Speaker 4: in one way or another. It I was so scared
[49:22] Speaker 4: the night that it was in the house or whatever
[49:24] Speaker 4: it was, and just to think that there's it's unnerving
[49:28] Speaker 4: to know that we don't know what this is and
[49:31] Speaker 4: we and it can read our thoughts.
[49:35] Speaker 3: It can there's no privacy around it at all. It's
[49:39] Speaker 3: just I don't know. I don't know what to think.
[49:42] Speaker 3: That's why I like talking to people like you, and
[49:47] Speaker 3: at least the people that have come to.
[49:49] Speaker 4: Terms with knowing that it's there. It's so frustrating to
[49:54] Speaker 4: talk to people and it's not their fault. I would
[49:57] Speaker 4: have been the same way if somebody caught said I
[50:00] Speaker 4: saw a bigfoot.
[50:00] Speaker 3: I'd be like a world that you didn't. I'd be like,
[50:06] Speaker 3: there's no such thing. You have to experience it. You
[50:11] Speaker 3: just have to. But I also get really frustrated.
[50:16] Speaker 4: Now when I'm in the woods with people, because I
[50:18] Speaker 4: still love walking through the woods, but people are so
[50:21] Speaker 4: loud and they're really not paying attention to what is
[50:24] Speaker 4: around them. But it's so hard to stop and for
[50:29] Speaker 4: me and to just be quiet for a minute and
[50:32] Speaker 4: to look at what is around me, because I find
[50:37] Speaker 4: even in my tiny little space, if I'm standing in
[50:39] Speaker 4: the woods, I could probably find three pretty interesting species
[50:44] Speaker 4: of something, whether it be an insect or a certain
[50:49] Speaker 4: fungus or a tree or there's just so much around
[50:55] Speaker 4: us all the time, and we're losing that.
[51:00] Speaker 3: You know, so fast of.
[51:03] Speaker 1: The bigfoot experiences intersected with your career as a vet
[51:08] Speaker 1: at all?
[51:09] Speaker 2: No, okay, cool, och, not at all.
[51:13] Speaker 4: I find myself if I get like, we have a
[51:16] Speaker 4: lot of military presence around here. And if I find
[51:19] Speaker 4: myself in a room with a client that's bit that
[51:22] Speaker 4: lived in like.
[51:23] Speaker 3: Washington State, I'm like to ask him. I have like
[51:27] Speaker 3: a little Devil and the angels. You know what to
[51:30] Speaker 3: do doctor Creek Water? Don't you ask Dan for that?
[51:33] Speaker 3: And you know, my little Devil's like ask him? Ask
[51:36] Speaker 3: him so.
[51:39] Speaker 4: Because they're pretty open about it because of the fact
[51:42] Speaker 4: that it's everyone talks about it openly, and there's all
[51:46] Speaker 4: sorts of tourist shops and stuff out there. But yeah,
[51:49] Speaker 4: it's I've been in this practice since I was eighteen.
[51:54] Speaker 4: I became a vet when I was twenty eight. Of
[51:57] Speaker 4: all of em dying in my life is veterinary medice.
[52:00] Speaker 4: It's the only thing I've ever been interested in. And
[52:05] Speaker 4: I started cleaning cages and walking dogs when I was
[52:08] Speaker 4: I think seventeen, So I've been an animal clinics since.
[52:14] Speaker 4: And trust me, the people that work with me are
[52:18] Speaker 4: just as weird. But other things, you know what I'm
[52:21] Speaker 4: saying it, but it's something else. We love the animals
[52:24] Speaker 4: and we're really passionate about what we do, and we
[52:27] Speaker 4: work really hard, and so it's it's.
[52:31] Speaker 3: Become more of a natural thing. It was scary at.
[52:36] Speaker 4: First, and that may be a reason why I moved
[52:39] Speaker 4: to the Eastern Shore first, because I didn't want to
[52:42] Speaker 4: come here and be terrible at practice or something. I
[52:46] Speaker 4: just didn't know, so I had zero business on a
[52:49] Speaker 4: farm truck in the middle of the night on the
[52:51] Speaker 4: Eastern Shore. Like going up to these farms and trying
[52:54] Speaker 4: to find the animals out in the woods.
[52:56] Speaker 3: That was dangerous. I was like, maybe I should bring
[52:59] Speaker 3: it in a little bit and just do cats and.
[53:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, some while soup.
[53:05] Speaker 1: You could always get a little bigfoot and put it
[53:08] Speaker 1: on your desk in your office, and then if they're like, oh,
[53:11] Speaker 1: bigfoot I have, then you can give them so you
[53:14] Speaker 1: don't have to ask.
[53:15] Speaker 2: But just get a little guy like this, I have
[53:17] Speaker 2: a little guy.
[53:19] Speaker 3: I just got the calendar, so we're going to hang
[53:25] Speaker 3: it on the granch tree.
[53:27] Speaker 2: Nice. Awesome, Aaron.
[53:30] Speaker 1: What a fascinating life you've had so far, with so
[53:34] Speaker 1: many different things that you have experienced and extremely intense.
[53:39] Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to share what you've experienced.
[53:43] Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Feel free to reach out if you
[53:46] Speaker 1: ever experience anything else. Hopefully I don't know that's a
[53:51] Speaker 1: question for you. Do you want to experience anything else?
[53:53] Speaker 1: Or are you okay?
[53:55] Speaker 3: Want to know.
[53:57] Speaker 4: How if anyone has ever had any kind of experience
[54:02] Speaker 4: where you have had it in your own house and
[54:06] Speaker 4: then know that it's outside again, Like, that's the one
[54:10] Speaker 4: experience that I haven't heard. I think confessionals had what
[54:17] Speaker 4: he thought may have been like a dog man in
[54:19] Speaker 4: his house on one of his things.
[54:22] Speaker 3: And that is about as close as that got. And God,
[54:26] Speaker 3: I just cannot. I can't do dog man, big.
[54:31] Speaker 2: No, dog dog Man is not a good time.
[54:33] Speaker 1: But yet, if people that are listening are like, oh
[54:35] Speaker 1: I have experienced that, please really same exact thing, put
[54:40] Speaker 1: it in the comments. I'm sure Aaron will be watching
[54:43] Speaker 1: the comments and then and we'll see if this is
[54:46] Speaker 1: maybe a common things, that common thing that happens and
[54:48] Speaker 1: maybe we just haven't really heard about it.
[54:50] Speaker 2: We'll see where this leads.
[54:51] Speaker 3: But I'll send you.
[54:53] Speaker 4: How do I send you my video with the rock
[54:56] Speaker 4: hitting the house behind me? I do say a bad
[54:58] Speaker 4: word in the video, but maybe we could do that
[55:01] Speaker 4: on I'll just send it to you.
[55:03] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is that something where I'd be able to
[55:06] Speaker 1: share that?
[55:06] Speaker 3: Or absolutely?
[55:08] Speaker 2: Okay? Cool?
[55:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, anything that you would want to send, you can
[55:12] Speaker 1: send to me. The email is big for society at
[55:14] Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Okay, and I'll hopefully be able to
[55:18] Speaker 1: put that in the video version on YouTube. If you
[55:20] Speaker 1: guys are listening just on the audio side, I have
[55:23] Speaker 1: been able to start doing primarily all video interviews, so
[55:28] Speaker 1: you're actually able to see me talking to the interviewee,
[55:31] Speaker 1: So make sure you check out the YouTube channel as well.
[55:34] Speaker 1: But Erin, thank you so much for coming on the
[55:36] Speaker 1: show and for sharing your experiences.
[55:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much.
[55:42] Speaker 1: Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
[55:45] Speaker 1: directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
[55:48] Speaker 1: in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
[55:52] Speaker 1: seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
[55:54] Speaker 1: a National Park ranger or forestreet worker who's been told
[55:58] Speaker 1: to stay quiet, pilot who's seen something strange down on
[56:02] Speaker 1: the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency,
[56:06] Speaker 1: or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not
[56:09] Speaker 1: allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,
[56:13] Speaker 1: or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found
[56:16] Speaker 1: tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry,
[56:21] Speaker 1: on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government
[56:24] Speaker 1: contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told
[56:27] Speaker 1: a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,
[56:31] Speaker 1: or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence
[56:34] Speaker 1: you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,
[56:38] Speaker 1: or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something
[56:41] Speaker 1: that shook your faith, or if you work in the
[56:44] Speaker 1: shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen
[56:49] Speaker 1: what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,
[56:53] Speaker 1: even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot
[56:58] Speaker 1: Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear
[57:02] Speaker 1: what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.
[57:06] Speaker 1: You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you
[57:12] Speaker 1: in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode
[57:14] Speaker 1: of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds
[57:17] Speaker 1: us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,
[57:21] Speaker 1: and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the
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[58:22] Speaker 1: what else might be out there? And see you in
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